#vrchat-general-2
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yay
i have nobody to interact withh and im struggling to find anyone to talk toooooo
then I'm gonna be really happy
so smooth, it made me realize how bad my karts are and that I need to redo them because now I see the issues with my kart better!
XD
now I can actually finish my world, its been almost a year since I started it lol
@idle elm we already discussed that among half a dozen other things
You said that earlier π But, Canny is where these things go!
Comment there so more will see it, and it won't be washed away by chat π
There's a bunch of other knock-ons that probably will mean that's not gonna happen. At least for some time.
Just letting you know now
π
It's better to be honest than to lead people on eh.
I wanted to make announcement contain more design info but @covert chasm fights dirty
π
naughty tupper
Actually, just 2k character limit
Regarding chairs? Will we be able to leave them on our avatars all the time? Or will they need to be triggered by an animation like last time?

You can leave them on
VRChat makes 70k poly limit now discord needs to make character limit 20k π
i assume they can be on all times
the animation thing last time was due to the exploit
to make them work
also there a problem in my vrc thou i cant get in the exe program in steam
is there any solution for it?
@abstract patrol #user-support-old
@vocal shard on all the time
Awesome ^^
Thanks
You can toggle them, leave them on, etc. We've tested with animations.
the only other pressing thing I can think of worlds now, is to fix ontimers
they are still broken, "reset onenable"
Yes please
How many chairs can go on an avatar
wait wait chairs are back?
not yet, soon
only 1
Six
wait, does that thing with people leaving the game while seated and someone teleporting to it still happen?

π―
OnTimers have been busted for months and months π¦
Yes, there is so much protentional to ontimers that isn't available until it is fixed
gonna go back to work bye !
Question
Avatar cloning um
Does that mean they can access the model though unity
No
im just gonna prefire a no next time
Lol
yeah well
Jamie come on vrcgat
gottim?
I was sitting here thinking "did you just have 'no' typed already, knowing the answer was most likely going to be 'no'?"
Why
I'm on my phone
Question about Allow Avatar Cloning in settings. On reinstall, my settings are lost. Is this setting client side or is it synchronized on the server in case I reinstall or switch devices.
Not at my pc
It seems to be server side Lyuma
it's in the api so.... server side
That would be unlike everything else in settings but good to know.
are your personal settings server side at all? I dont think they are? hmm
This option has to work server side. Just like Blocks, Mutes, etc
like, height, voice prioritization, volume and such
I worked on an app with both type of settings like that so I'm familiar, just checking
Whenever I'd log into an alt for testing on the same account changing the settings like volume on one would affect the other once I opened the settings on the other acount
So I'd assume that stuff is clientside
comfort space, comfort turning, height etc all get reset when I reinstall in my memory
But this is a particularly privacy sensitive setting for some people so It's good the server rememebers
the per avatar setting will be saved per avatar
the universal allow or disallow will need to be unchecked if you lose all your settings for any reason
but, if an avatar is set to "disallow". no one can clone it even if they have their universal setting on "allow"
Despite the contention regarding the new avatar settings. I'm excited that users are going to be able to easily try more avatars. I think this will add a lot of variety to the avatars seen in game.
Jamie be my model in one of your videos, I wanna be famous π
Lol π
Yes I'm actually really excited to get to try on more avatars. Right now I have to screenshot the avatar photo if it has the world name on it and remember to find that world at a later time.
the cloning feature is bad imo cant u just make it link to the world they got it from instead??
Why's it bad though?
(I'm also secretly changing some of my avatars to public to see if people use the feature on me to have fun)
cuz maybe the world is meant only for friends to use the avatar and what if people start trolling and everyone uses someone elses avatar
I remember people asking for this 11 months ago
Make sure they're not ones with lewd parts
IF the world is only meant for friends then those friends shouldn't be sharing it.
@stone current the avatars will link to the world too... so I get to try it on and then visit the world it came from
that moment 2 months in when u realized no one haz used ur avatar
if you don't want your avatar used, either set it to private or turn off your share settings
yea but it also allows u 2 switch to it
Also, if the world is meant for friends, they can and should agree to turn off Allow Avatar Copying
Issue is if you want it shared with somebody but not absolutely everybody
An avatar gifting feature would go a long way to helping some of these concerns.
if u go to the world then theres chances that the avatar is also locked away
"Maybe the world is meant only for friends...." Turn off copying while using that avatar.
"What if people start trolling..." OK turn off copying on your end.
not trolling with u
Now that is the only issue. "Reward" avatars being easier to get.
yes
There's many others
easter egg avatars
lol now the people who go around playing hero trying to find people with stolen avatars are gonna be even more toxic
also there gonna be those ppl who like "use my avatar" and its a crasher
then a bunch of people suddenly have crashers
yup
yea but by goig to the world
So it's a few seconds faster?
no like
Avatars don't link to worlds. They link to an author
someone could even use a crash avatar thats not meant to crash
so when everyone switches to it it just lags a lot
the real danger is trying not to accidentally use a crashers avatar
The first couple of weeks are going to be full of "these hackers stole my avatar" posts/comments ..
People unaware of the change having their models "stolen"
People sharing avatars that are bought with real money
Those that wish to share an avatar with one person, only to have it spread uncontrollably until it's forced private again
If that author has a world with avatars and it's public they can go visit it. just like everyone else
yea i think it should only say
"Avatar found in world"
where u can click to see world
- Detach blueprint ID
- They can already do that
- Detatch blueprint ID
what i wonder is. what if someone copies an avatar but its a crasher but the person who copied it didnt even knnow it was one. what happens to them?
And yeah, you might copy an avatar, only to realize that it's malicious or contains NSFW things or inappropriate shaders. They're not always apparent at first
exactly
They're issues but they have a pretty easy solution. Reward avatars don't realyl have a fix
that what i said
they have a fix if its only showing the world
bc the issue was "they cant find the avatar world"
so the "clone avatar" bit is unnecessary
What if I don't want to make a world to share my avatar with my friends?
many crasher avatar are obvious at least...and look like garbage
Avatars are not linked in the database to a world. What if you have 19 pedestals in lots of worlds including others public worlds and friend worlds?
i wonder how many nsfw avatars will make their way into public instances and get cloned by mistake π
if its not but its public allow copying
Doesn't work like that
I think the issue is that your main argument is "What if a thing not meant to be shared is shared". If I have an avatar meant only for friends, I'll tell my friends to make sure they don't share it.
If they share it, I detach blueprint ID.
avatar stealers might take an avatar from a user, make it public, then share it with others
THey can already d othat Wunder
Don't detach. Make it private
No it's not?...
it will force people out of it if made private
Oh right, I could just privatize it.
what happens to faved avatar that is changed to private btw? i've never tested this
maybe i should actually play vrc now
but yea just make it so that if its from the world, show world only, but if its not and its public, allow copying of it
does it disappear from faved list?
my fav list has never worked so idk
yea the world faves gone
I don't think it disappears. It just never loads. I don't quite remember.
oh ok
idk y
@viscid seal they cant load it anymore at all
good to know
Anyonw wanna join me on vrchat
sure
π
i been trying to visit my faves
My username is Ashs
Playlists are replacing simple favorites. You'll have three and can set to private, friends and public. That will also help.
but tabs not there so i couldnt and havent played vrc a lot since
worlds I mean
say I clone your avatar and im wearing it. you can go set it to private. as soon as I change worlds, (if I just keep it on,) it will never load anymore
Oh cool
oh that makes sense
probably easier to find my account ashs
yeah
the setting change from public to private is pretty much instant too
it also applies to when u change worlds right
its in the content manager. no need to reupload to change the avatars status
i wish u could also have
the issue with your idea is that worlds and avatars aren't connected at all, Wunder I think that's what he was trying to say
background updating
THe game doesn't "know" if an avatar is in a world or not in a world
It only links to the creator, and if the creator has a Published world, it'll be on their social page
Yes
Nooooo
needs to be that way. that way pedestals can be in MANY worlds if wanted
Yeah, you'd need a world ACL on the avatar to restrict it to pedestals meaningfully
It says it shows the Author
there's also stuff coming you guys have no visibility of that affect design decisions now
couldnt they just change it to store the avatar they have along with its world on wear
It used to not show worlds a user has published on their social page unless they were your friend. Is that still a thing?
Ron likes to tease. Lol
Wunder, Worlds and AVatars are not connected, that's not a possibility lol
Ron, can you tease any at all? π
also
There's no way for the game to know if an Avatar is in a world or not in a world.
just little cookie crumbs
That's why it only links to the Creator, not to the World.
there is if the avatar saving system changed
He teased avatar seats many months ago
@umbral nova any public worlds will show
@dark narwhal username is?
Which is what you want
Doki Doki
also for background updates i.e. say u have scenes for each avatar and u don't need to put anything different in the description or whatever
Thats requires a massive overhaul Wunder, probably one not worth doing right now just to prevent some minor issues.
and say u made changes that affect 3 of ur avatars
Added
@sly veldt I get that, I meant on a user's social page. If they weren't your friend, it didn't show. Does it show now even if they aren't?
there should be a way to push a button for updating all 3 avatars
without having to go through the reupload process
bc they can be queued and wouldn't need to wait for gui
What?...
basically
he's talking about uploading more than one avatar at a time i think
@covert linden got it
No
oh?
Join me
not having to go into play mode and being able to queue up uploads or run them in parallel
u skip the entire gui loading and acception process because ur not changing any of that information
is like a quick reupload button
and they run in queues or together like above
so u could update 3 avatars much faster
and it also wouldn't lag unity
@umbral nova yes you can always browse worlds now on profile pages. It's such an awesome way to find worlds!
A queue would be useful
so u could change some things while it uploads
bc its a background process
like say u wanna fix the dynamic bones on multiple avatars
@dark narwhal joinnnnn
@umbral oracle what I'm saying is does a world show up on a user's social page if they aren't a friend
if not the queue, upload backgrounding would be a super nice feature
fix properties of next and press quick update
Yes
and so on, and they all queue up and upload in background
That's all I asked lol
@umbral nova you don't have to be a friend to see their public world on their social details.
so u can do things while it uploads and also goes by faster
Well it is new and I was really excited in a good way. I always make wall of text answers lol
@sly veldt I just wanted to know since it wasn't a thing before, that's all.
π
@umbral nova You can also click on the author button of any public world and see what other worlds they have
how do i see my favorites world list? i cant find it anymore π€
One thing I always get confused about is the friend button on world author profile pages. Poor owlboy must get so much spam
Oh I knew about the world author button, I just didn't know if you could search a user to see their worlds on their social page.
Favorites will be back. Temporarily gone until playlists deploys which is super soon
ah alright
What's the World Playlist thing? Favorites that show up on your profile?
showing avatars made by a user would be neat π€
think "favorites" but like spotify playlists.
Can be private, friends only or public
three groups of them
To do with as you wish
vrchat sure likes doing things in threes 

I do things in threes lol
It's an π½ conspiracy. π½ π½
source so badly designed
erm
lol
ok
@sly osprey oof

Targets @stone current for alien abduction
n0
Sound being badly designed? Holdup I'm confused
**s o u r c e **
Source engine by valve he means
the bip skeletons in specific
When I see "source" at this point
That's 14 years old engine
I think aaudio source
like a dozen time easier 2 set up bip skeleton in unity
Excuse me autocorrect
Just triggering your senses, that is all
When I saw only source my mind defaulted to "audio"
i saw a furry with a nazi armband in this 1 vrc world
I think assembly language
k
is that bannable
Meanwhile I think in... well nvm
Ok. gotta focus mode here. Chat to you all later.
ban for be fury... jk
Mk seeya
Mo
Ok. Cya ron. Thanks
but the armband thing?
It probably is.. swastika is bannable as far back as the 40s, I suppose
@stone current It is bankable yes
Especially in Germany
bankable
you can take that to the bank

Nice one jamie
It can be considered hate speech in a way
Depoait all your hate speech in a voicebank
well he was talking about gassing people



Anyways.. what did miss?
insanity
Jamie
Damn thumbs.. Can't see what I'm typing
Hmm?
Hi

Hey
Ah, I'm glad there's a way to toggle off avatar cloning. Was just a little concerned reading the announcement until that bit.
omg
Yeah, unfortunately a bunch dont seem to get that far
people need to learn to full read before even assuming things
apparently u can make avatars with hour long audio sources
this is the future where people cant be arsed to "learn and make sure"
Just because it's fairly common to put fun special versions of avatars in private rooms, and loan them to friends, but without wanting everyone to be able to suddenly become it.
Oh noes some one might wear this public avatar that I got from a public world!
yea but its no fun
lmao
or any avatars you uploaded before public/private was added
but then everyone else has the avatar bc stole from another
@vocal shard you can change the setting without reuploading apparently
So self sense of entitlement to something that is not your own?
Eg, stuff like a friend who has a "Boss Monster" avatar loaned around that way. If everyone also suddenly turned into that same avatar, it'd become a mess instantly and result in it getting used for greifing.
That is life
Wait, who is Broly replying to?
The dark void
I don't want any of my public avatars in my world to be clone-able. Much of my world is built around exploration and secrets
^^^^^
What if avatar stealing is like literally stealing or like swapping
Kind of sucks for the people who (literally) spent hours looking for some of my avatars, and were proud enough to track me down and tell me about it
ur gonna have to put a sign saying
So there's no duplication. You could add in game money and a bidding system. Then people can farm for the hard to get avatars
and on thumbnail
I feel like there kind of needs to be a third upload setting. Public, Private, and "Secret" or something along those lines.
like anyone will read those lmao
Well... I believe ron said their's more in the works and that is something they already considered, but right now this is the first version and they will add more modes later
TURN OFF ALLOW COPYING OR IMA REKT U
cant even read the announcements here
LOL
Turning off cloning is just you, personally. Not for anyone who picks up your avatars in your worlds unfortunately
But individual users being able to turn off cloning at least covers my personal concerns.
They day any type of currency system gets added to this game that involves any type of money, it will go down the shit hole even faster
Jamie, ik what a CEO is but what's a cco
Rogur requests additional Rogurs
i wonder if vrchat ever gonna have comission worlds
Will be a slight shame when special reward avatars like that one Sketchu has, just become instantly imitable though.
like u go to a world, type in a comission, and the person who made it get the message and can accept and open a DM
and scamming would run rampant
ye ik
it already does
but for people who actually do comission it might be nice
bc easier 2 contact them
have it like ebays rep system those who go with it get good rep those who scam gets bad and eventually gets blocked from uusing it

Anything in game that would promote the trade of money would require legal jumps by the devs
Hiring lawyers and all that
not to mention having to follow strict trademark/copyright laws
seems to me that a more likely business model for vrchat would be user-created paid-for DLC assets. More of an ongoing revenue stream of micropayments than the occasional one-off commission (which could happen outside the platform with less of a cut for vrc anyway)
Vrchat premium account?
never hearts to throw ideas out there for sure even if they may not be that practical atm
Just saying though once money is involved into the game, they are open to get memed by copyright infringement cases for offending avatars.
Perhaps follow Discords business model (if possible to translate it). Has worked surprisingly well.
Loading screen ads when?
Everyone was saying that Discord was doomed to be a financial failure a few years back.
Don't allow malware inthem though, or it will end up in my hosts file
paid extra animation slots and inventory..
O.o
Ever seen their market place?
they both have marketplaces
eww
I ended up on their marketplace a few times by accident
The average asset is like 500$
its mostly porn and overpriced assets with a few good freebies
Last time i was on SL i was 16....
I searched for "Free" and found eye colors or something at 50$ a piece
SL is a game where pp out not matter so
why is vrchat telling me i have leg trackers now
legit last time i played in the welcome world i got 10 fps on my gaming laptop and everyone even if animal had a dick
Maybe you plugged in a controller or something btw kewl?
u got free trackers from vrc gods
Sounds like the horrors of private worlds
btw
na its not that bad but worse at the same time
bc some of it is fkd up but its normal in SL so
bc SL an adult game
if u gonna b like "ew pp" or "hahaha look at that" theyre permbanning u for being immature
they dont tolerate underage at all lol
ive been a member of sl for over 12 years so eh
but a lot of the ppl there are like rlly old adults
ive met single and married 32-60 y/o
some that play with their partner
they don't tolerate underage i didnt say they have an issue with peopl who are secretly underage
like soem 10 y/o squeaking ugandan knuckles that would be insta ban
rofl
12 years ago i was 18 so i was not even that when i joined
time flies when getting old
wouf
i used 2 play SL a lot but
its sooooooooo sllooooooowww
and its buggy too
some worlds didnt let u spawn stuff unless u went in between shops and out of the map then u can just drive it all over the place
and idk the place is kinda dying now
i havent found much 2 do there anymore cuz all empty so i quit
Woah... are you talking about 18+ private worlds there?
Full name?
Yikees.
and on top of that pay extra virtual rent if u wanted to buy a home in someone elses world
like there were literally
worlds that are apartments or complexes, condos, suburbs
that u had 2 pay rent with real money (virtual lindens)
And not to mention.. frontal tails everywhere?
to stay in in the game
which i literally still do not get
y would u need 2 pay rent for a place 2 stay in a virtual game
I believe they were trying to emulate real life there
ik thats the point
u can earn lindens and real money from jobs in secondlife
but still what the hell
u can go afk and use a strip pole dance tool and earn virtual money lol
People pay for an inch of property for the fake country of sea land... Paying for a game property isn't really a stretch
didn't IBM buy a massive amount of digital space in second life for "training" reasons?
SL's rent worked because the primary play space was one huge, continuous continent
bc the map in SL basically means: all worlds are all coinciding in thise huge SL world
ibm places in sl are gone now have been about 3 years now
and u can go to worlds by teleporting to their coordinates on the map
It'd be like if the Great Pug was right next to the Void Club in VRChat
not just that
i use to visit those ibm places
but on the map u can physically see it
and u can teleport to its coordinates
and u can also have worlds at different levels
like heaven and hell worlds
in the same spot
theres times where there are like several hideouts stacked with several units separating them
theres people who get rich by doing this:
"ok it takes this much money to rent my world"
"ill sell rooms for cheap so its cheaper than making a world"
and basically get profit bc they earn more than rent
yea I remember looking at project sansa and I noped out real quick
"its free realestate"
wanting 80 bucks for a kettle asset or something like that
and then they're like "you can have users pay a monthly sub to access your world to recoup costs!
you can get a job to second life there area job ads
there are virtual strip clubs and virtual food vendors

and guides and real estate people to market places
and people who sell virtual items/cars
anime textures look better in vrchat than realistic IMO
35% human-like or human 30% anime 25% furry and rest is other
I just find the number of people wanting to be little anime girls kind of disturbing
being little anime girls to me is one thing. but those who do questionable things/personality on em is an entire other thing
^
basically same reasoning for furry ig
just being one but being civil and proper being your self is just fine as i see it as. its those who take it beyond is what makes it so wrong
woof
People shame others for being furries, unironically I might add
people on the internet is not going to be civil and proper outside of your social circle
Yet no one shames people for using anime avatars
heccin dogs
Yet people always joke about others being weebs
Concider the Follwing
Anime is basically human, being a dog and having yiffing parties is another deal
ahaha
Avatar Cloning? how about a "freinds Only" option
ppl used 2 say that neko was result of beastiality
Also Adeon, tupper got rid of my "Several peolple" nickname lmao
Too confusing
It was pretty disruptive xD
Several people is typing...
Yes
If someone names them Self "Everyone" hows that work
Was fun while it lasted though
<@everyone1337>
furry stuff is a weird thing man, like in a fantasy world/novel/game thing where some demi-human is just basically human like evolved from another root species and then bring down to cross specie relations
the ping not work anyways
Oof
line gets blurry real fast
oh good
but @e v eryone#123 is not @everyone
XD
@zealous terrace Funny thing is I was warned of bring banned from a server for nicknaming myself "everyone"
Uhh Wulfe
Who did you just ping lmao
idk ask discord
Eve...
you can ping people not in the group chat
someone probably never looks here im sure
it jsut does nothing
also y sometimes i get this like
How many users are in this server?
over 14,000
And there's like what, 15 regulars
User named eve has no posts...
about 15k more so
"message" in vrchat
saying "i have free candy" "accept" "decline"
more people then in VRchat atm that is for sure
why i get that
Well I'm sure there's more than 15 regulars but I can only think about 15 atm
add me on vrchat for woofss
im just evil
plsplsplox
I mainly keep this in my discord so I can have quick access to pins and stuff. helps me stop asking stupid questions when an update breaks my avatar

but why do i get a message
in vrchat sayin "i have free candy" "accept" "decline"
Sounds like someone using a modded client to me (unless there actually is a way to send messages that idk about)
this clone public avatar thing? thats the absolute worst way to disprespect avatar creators
litterally the opposite thing that we want
smh
it's not an issue
Adeon, me, Rokk, caffeine, Wulfe, Jamie, Jazneo, Pan Diman, Mic, Sai, Dafirex, Whitmire
Litterally check box that says "make private" in the sdk, done.
send me vrchat frend request aa
Okay maybe not 15, I struggled to think of more
Oclac
olaf
Yeah ....

And G1Fan
Also Wulfe should I add you right now through the VRC website?


how do you even send a message like that in vrc, though
it shows this icon
i haven't seen the
in forever lol

in the bottom left corner
then in menu it says theres a message
and u click to open it, says message, accept, and decline
i've never gotten anything like that, and from what i can tell you can't send messages on vrchat or the website
weird
also vrchat should have some sort of teleportation monitoring plspls
There are some system messages that are sent as text messages. E.g. the "welcome to new user status" message
Oh hold up what's your game Wulfe lol
im sick of people with exploits and avatars that clip thru walls ruining games
oh lol
i've been playing since last year so i guess i never got those
wat
On VRChat
the
notifications
username same as this one
Ohwair
oh you were talking to them heck
I put Wonder
My current avatar is an avatar I tested before leaving for this trip
Read #announcements already and is good i watermarked my avatars
but yeah, if people want an avatar in my public world, they can use it
mewww
yo yo yo Im just sayin not threats or anythin but some groups outta use the holidays to hit vrchat
we're just going to have to knuckle down and deal with it
when does changing the public/private status take effect?
@merry canyon you used to be able to open a user profile page in vrchat.net and add /message to the url. There's a nice UI just don't know where the official link to this page is
I've changed some from the "managed uploaded content" window and they seem reverted the next time I start unity
ah
it takes 6-12 hours after it's been approved on the spreadsheet
sorry, I mean for avatars
oh hmm, thanks I'll check it again later then
i hope there is a lot of backlash for this annoucement
smh
why...
its bs
desrespectful to avatar creators
like i said
time to be fucking lazy and yoink someone's avatar without going through the world that the avatar is from
avatar worlds would be pointless
i still don't understand how that is... it only affects public avatars. for avatar world makers, its actually more like free advertizing. in the beta testing, they said its atually been promoting avatar worlds more than taking away from it
Making them private will only allow the creator to use it
what about us wanting to share our creations to our friends? and not just to strangers
they're literally making avatar stealing offical
you see an someone had, you go to copy it, you then have all the info who made it, and you can easily find the world it came from now
how about if they dont want to go visit the world? wheres the reward of finding really cool avatars to try on n such
what about the many worlds that are neglected and never get visited?... this helps the circulation
I dunno man
I feel like people would just yoink and not know who created the avatars
like they dont care
Spoiler: They already don't care
^ see
Most people don't care who made the avatar, unless it's someone big named like Shonzo or the Miko world or Littlemouse
as for the friends avatar thing, i agree... but we were just talking with Ron and he said theirs a lot more features that we don't know about, and this is the first step. the other modes for this share thing will come later...
This absolutely helps spread the work of smaller avatar creators.
Hm
Most people don't care who makes public world avatars unless you're just really popular. Otherwise, they just grab, favorite, and most likely never return.
The only issue, as far as non-abuse things go, are Quest Reward avatars.
You can only copy Public marked avatars and you can only do that if you yourself turn on Sharing
Otherwise I really don't see a problem with it that isn't addressed by "Turn off your sharing setting" or "share your friend-only avatar in private"
I just feel like there's no reward for those who enjoy finding the avatar pedistals in the worlds, sounds lazy at best
if I have to mention, Sketchu's avatars are hidden across her worlds and she wants people to go visit the worlds and find them as a reward- sort of deal
It's closed beta currently
ye ^
Ok
Yeah, it's a shame, but not a reason to completely scrap a system
π€·
I donβt use public avatars, but I tried to test the feature out
It showed up with nothing
So I guess still in beta
gonna name this update VRChat 2: The Yoinkning
Canβt yoink, if your avatar is private π
Yeah, gotta mess around with some of my avatar permissions but otherwise im ready
my friend uploads all their avatars as public because they didn't think it made a difference. immediately went to warn them
isn't it an extra click to upload as public? lol
The chad private vs the virgin public
But isn't it private by default
Yeah if it's Shonzo I block it because it's laggy. π
lagging on vrchat
I dont entierly find this bad, I just wish there was more options and explanations for this upcoming feature
Yeah, same Scruffy lol
easy method to raid, right before supposed knuckles resurgence?
Shonzo, those Full Body Shimakaze things, SubCom, etc. I block avatars on those on sight
Also a clear solution would be to just be able to mark avatars as pedestal only for hidden ones. On the other hand, does it really matter? If people want to use an avatar they will, and if not there's plenty others that are easier to get
Sounds like an unnecessary extra step
Yeah my only issue with pedestal only ones are people jsut setting their whole world to it, but I guess they don't know it hurts them more in the longrun, so theyre just pre-emptively shooting themselves in the foot.
Not really, just another checkmark in the SDK.
Private=No
Pedestal=No
Public=Yes
for sharing
All these visitors are going to test out the new cloning feature while Iβm here testing out the chair features π
oh right chairs
Thatβs actually one of the features the beta listed
oh shit nice
I still wished they increased the favorite avatars amount.
that too
Yeah, main reason im against favorites increasing is to help rotate out avatars from un-published worlds that were taken down due to having unoptimized avatars
well you can still get to those worlds using favorite worlds too
I have a few favorite worlds that were taken down but still have a Go button so I can visit. Not sure that's meant to be
I don't think so since a public ID and a private ID are kept separate, but that might not be right
unlike private avatars, you can definitely visit private worlds just knowing the ID. that's how portals work
yeah, the Id is still different is what I mean
a published world, once published, should never change their ID since that's where their world stats are, at least that's how I understand it.
So they'd lose all their tags and saved info serverside
hmm not sure.... but when a published world becomes unpublished due to a approval concern like optimized avatars, it retains the same ID

zzz @vocal shard
π€
7:51 am here morning all
5:51am π
did anyone read what new changes are coming to next vrc update ?
6:52 here, hello timezone neighbors
Good morning from Germany, I should go to bed now
wanted to sleep more but freaking over loud snowblowers passed my apartment causing me to wake up oh well atleast we have snow here in finland
6:57 breakfast time
Ayy gotem
Just turned 12am
Now other people can yoink your avatar if you have it on yeet
Unless you upload it as Private I think right?
Just set it to private, ez
Yeah
It's always high noon somewhere in the world
Press it again
Whats that do
Ctrl z is undo
Which will take it back to the previous edit you did
It wont work
Are we talking about blender or Unity?
They want unity stuff
Unity
Its says its uploaded but its not
But the avatar is not there in unity i dont want to half to restart it
The recent one
2017.4.15f1 and this is the version of Unity you're supposed to use
Look for that one on the unity website coz the recent one isn't the one you're meant to use
- Install Unity Hub: https://unity3d.com/get-unity/download
- Click this url to install 2017.4.15f1: unityhub://2017.4.15f1/5d485b4897a7
- If it tells you to update, dont update
- ...
- Profit
I never update anything
well copy and paste unityhub url in browser
Lol
but avatars not showing up in avatar list because of modded sdk means you are on your own as vrchat doesnt support modded sdks
u shouldnt go around saying u got a modded sdk but no they should work unless the modder screwed up
time for some avatar optimization ^-^
My sdk isn't the problem i think
what you guys up to π
if you know how C# works, you dont need a modded sdk from someone else really
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Probably coz of the modded SDK 
π€

yeah lol
It was the avatars that i was using i just wanted to be alone
18. No discussion on how to hack / cheat in VRChat @vocal shard
Now now i never did
then why were you banned for one month 
I was crashing people that were picking on me
block them
yee
lol thats what the block feature is for
crashing will get you banned
Dont know how
crashing someone is annoying.
people forgot how to use the block feature i guess
why would you crash people!
Long story
it's annoying people trying to have fun then boom your crashed
people come to vrchat to play games and make friends and you think its just all good to crash others that bully you
VRChat added the block feature to fix that issue. to remove and mind you it goes both ways, if you block someone they disappear and you disappear from them
They had crashers to
i dont care
people these days man..
report them to moderation@vrchat.com
thats like trying to put fire out with fire now..
fighting fire with fire does nothing
Any form of crashing, even for revenge is something that you can get banned for... So we highly recommend against it
Clans these days want me out
@civic plume blocking people doesnt stop all types of crshers
only one it doesnt stop is photon exploits yes, but gives you a reason to send output logs to get them banned
Its Multiple reasons people hate me
ruuubick >.< there is a crasher here .
I have Multiple kos s out on me thats why
What is kos
it means krash on site
Why is it spelt with a k
KOS = Kill On Sight
Or kick on sight..
usually kill
but yeah, those groups at first think they help, then they have fun with the power they get and go crashing lobbies
ad every clan discord has one most really arent used
Yeah i crash them for a reason
Wait.. is Tupper offline?
The bad clans need to be stopped
Time to get derank my guy
Why
good luck froppy there are hundreds of clans lmao
Hold up... Tuppie's offline.
<@&378256373701410817>
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There are five clans after me those are the ones i want
wait
I did nothing wrong
dm me the names
ruuubick please make this stop
List them. I feel like they have better things to do than try to locate one person
Who's crashing you, Monty?
If I wake up to any ping, it won't end well
no one is crashing me
@vocal shard is or was a crasher now everyone is talking about KOS and crash clans and crashing
Im out
Oof.
oh hes a crasher?
Damn.. didn't know.
apparently
If they wanted to find you, they would already. People like those have clients that allow them to join any worlds. Client or not
froppy_jollopyToday at 5:35 PM
Yeah i crash them for a reason
hes not on any of the kos lists i have seen
froppy_jollopyToday at 5:29 PM
I was crashing people that were picking on me
That last statement lol
there should just be a method for reviewing avatars before they are uploaded like worlds are viewed
we would have less of a problem with crashers
When everyone in your crew hates your guts and vote kick you
At that level, your social skills got to be at an all time low
hey guys i really wanna dress my avatar up for christmas and im sorta getting more time. does anyone have a santa hat or something :p
@chilly hollow yeah i hopped on earlier my avatars weapon was in someones face and they got pissed off becuase of it logged me out
or some of the crashers that can actually kill your pc
that's since been patched
Not a network loss, swapped SSD into a new machine π
no one can damage ur pc
@covert chasm can we reduce the slow mode in user-support a bit?
yay tupper is back π
it's a bit hard to answer questions waiting 15 seconds
oh no the first thing I do on this new machine is dispel the "hackers can melt your RAM" meme yet again?
what a waste
Is that even a real thing. I heard rumors, but never have their been a documented siting
haha π
No, it cannot happen, period, full stop, impossible
my ram got rammed by vrchat >.<
The worst I have seen is you get logged out. Then you get back on your feet, type in your username and password again and find a different room to go to that doesn't have annoying people in it.
put it in a notepad for fast copy paste access if it's happening a lot... but then it's probably someone on your friends list that's following you around which instance you are in etc
The worst thing they can do is fill your screen with hentai and your parents walks in
when ur security is so good you can be crashed, lagged, and even just straight up logged out of game
that's fixable with safety settings
ok so the game can close itself in some situations. Sounds exactly like a lot of AAA games
@umbral oracle Hanging is possible but nothing past a restart
thats just a hacked vrchat client @umbral oracle click someones name in the lobby and log out or the whole lobby at once
lag
you need everything off but voice but even then i've still been crashed/logged out by cunts
I havenβt lagged in awhile now
with the recent update i have noticed less lag
Yeah, somehow they can bypass that system and log you out and it's been hell on wheels for me.
When something happens, you move onto the next. the annoying thing is if you forgot to record the name of the cool person you found and were talking to and might never see them again. always remember to add friend or keep track of their names
My pc isnβt even the Uber 5 grand pc either
I usually have, vrchat, steamvr, windows mixed reality portal, discord, obs
@umbral oracle Worst part is that I ran into one that had spacebar inputs instead of actual letters
!online
There are 5058 users in VRChat currently
@umbral oracle thats why i have a whole folder full of users ive met
I only have oculus and vrchat
yes logouts can happen outside the scope of the safety system. that's unfortunate but it's not very hard to log in again. use that as a hint to find another world to hang out in. I've only had the logout thing happen to me twice in my time on vrchat (and it was in the same room both times) and I do visit public worlds.
I use discord on my phone
I sometimes have 3
Discord for private conversation and screenshot exchanging
the fact you can even be logged out the game by another player means the game isnt even ready to be out yet LMOA
early access
shit needs to be fuck yeeted and fixed my lord
it isn't that fucking hard but i guess its to much brain power for the devs
It's going to be a while before the corp. gets some new staff.
Why don't you fix it then? π€
do you think fallout 76 was using this game as a basis to call theirs finished just fixed the player logout issue and sold it for 60 dollars?
Make your own open source content creator game @regal tartan
@regal tartan if youre so upset why are you even playing vrc then as it is what it is in this current state ?
WHOA WHAT IF IT ISN'T MY GAME NOR MY RESPONSIBILITY
People getting logged out directly affects usage stats. I'm sure the vrchat devs know about it and have an interest in fixing it
sure it's always easy to bitch and complain about things when you don't have to even move a shit tbh
@queen mango hugs! π
serious security issues
trying to defend the game because beta weebs
So I can sit on my ass and interact with people
yes
also vr makes me look like a healthy life style because my character is always standing straight
None of that crawling crap
stupid little brick named rick who thought knew shit but didnt know shit about game development lol
"lol" if you cant even make a decent game with basic security you shouldnt even be letting it out till that shti is fix
I'm actually trying experiments with not using the movement keys and using only rotation to move in VR, at least within moderate sized rooms. If I want to walk, I have to get up and actually walk the distance
basically what hackers did before but making it a feature
go on make game like vrc im sure in hell gonna tear it down and feed all flaws of it piece by piece ^^
I set up my playspace mover to rotate the room automatically when I rotate my hip tracker so I can keep walking ingame and just rotate my playspace IRL by rotating
They actually put the game on hold for a while then people on steam, Twitter, etc complained about not being able to play
@regal tartan That's what I've felt too, tbh. This whole Avatar Cloning thing, while cool for raids, could bring new problems
maybe shouldn't be adding fuel to the fire...
i mean it sees fun but
Nyaaow.. Someone pinged me
they really need to fix shit before adding in other shit
Raiding is fun until everyone breaks formations. Your master plan crushed because some loser wanted to break away from the central hive mind
@regal tartan oh youre in charge of vrc and it's dev team ?
come back to me when you have more then 2 iq
you need to fix your fucking arguments
you need to fix your fucking beta personality
@indigo yacht @regal tartan #general-media please keep your trash talk out of this chat
sure you can talk but can you do shit ? if youre so fucking amazing at complaining i would figure youre now half way finishing vrc for us
this was fun to read
yes I kind of do because I'm trying to have a discussion and talk about stuff and you are yelling at each other in a public list
yes
Tupper > 
Opinions on erp. βAwkward or creepyβ or both
both
awkward but at least someone is getting their nut on
Damn.. should I have to ping the sen. mods. for this?
no harm in consented nut imo
I thought it stand for a genre of music, but I realize itβs just a bunch of dudes acting like horny non existent girls
@queen mango sen. Mods doesn't work anymore. They asked for only chat mods now
These kids and their fancy acronyms
This may get complicated...
it's really fascinating that you get to do things you could never experience in real life. If taken seriously, it might be a way to give a different perspective on gender and sexuality that you would never be able to understand in real life.
dude chill
@vocal shard all senior chatmods you the normal chat mod rank though
Abbreviation... Not acronym. 
why you adding in 3 dots like you depressed
That's why they asked to ping the normal chat mods, so it goes to all of them
@umbral oracle are you implying that if you are a female avatar you can get to feel how being a female would be in real life visa versa?
Chat Mods can do stuff too. lol
probably get banned for pinging them tbh
It's called Grammar my dear boy.






