vrchat-general-2

[atomic tusk]

99% of avatars would be marked as poor

[umbral reef]

Or Very poor

[atomic tusk]

might as well run around as x or y bot

[umbral reef]

Funfact- My avatar would fall under Verry good--
Because it has nothing on it...

[atomic tusk]

my iron giant would be my only very good avatar

[umbral reef]

Wait- It might still trigger on the bones

Also- If its bigger then 2.5x2.5x2.5 it wont

[atomic tusk]

wait my kenshiro

but it has an audio file....

Omae wa mou....shindeiru

[thick quartz]

wait a minute polygons 32,000 is very good?
damn so will almost all my avatar will be very good
because I have no idea how to get more polygons XD

[floral quiver]

Are u able to report a user who is kicking users for no reason

[umbral reef]

You can try but not really..

[tacit plank]

TGerror, just use the subsurf modifier
I'm a horrible influence huh?

[thick quartz]

hehe no you are not XD and I do know of this but It is a challenge to try to make Avatar that is not be modifier

[atomic tusk]

there's a weeee bit of an issue with height if you use the oculus version of vrchat

[vocal shard]

Why?

[atomic tusk]

I'm 5 7 but I have to set it to 6 3 to avoid standing on tip toes

[umbral reef]

Remove toe bones

#AntiToeBoneGang 👏

[atomic tusk]

then my eyes go above head

[maiden jewel]

Uhhh

are the servers going down?

[hoary ridge]

Did something die

SDK and game died

[maiden jewel]

yeah, the worlds arent loading in

[tawny aspen]

yeah

[umbral reef]

Give it a few seconds and then try again

[stark comet]

knock knock knockin on server's door~

[tawny aspen]

here we go again.

[hoary ridge]

Nice

[maiden jewel]

i was about to commence operation German Nico NIi

they had to do me dirty like that

[umbral reef]

Also
If they are getting attacked again there is not a lot they can do so getting angry over it wont help them at all

[stark comet]

knock knock knockin through pea soup void~

[hoary ridge]

The SDK also died :(

[atomic tusk]

SHE'S DEAD JIM!

[tawny aspen]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 6536 users in VRChat currently

[hoary ridge]

Feelsbadman

[slow canyon]

She's Cactus mate

[spice junco]

vrchat is down right now i tried to conect and it didn't work

[dry marsh]

"people start saying servers are down" let the chaos begin 🍿 😁

[atomic tusk]

CHAOS!? Yes!

[maiden jewel]

unleash the chaos

[umbral reef]

Can we not...

[spice junco]

literally

[tawny aspen]

several people are typing...

[hoary ridge]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[elfin forge]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee doesn't let me login

[light pilot]

servers are down

[atomic tusk]

man and I was updating my OC avatars to close to my height >_.

[vocal shard]

Yes i am typing, what of it?

[tawny aspen]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~ I wanna get on one miko avatar to dance pop stars!

[spiral flax]

Servers are down

[languid scroll]

rip servers

[hoary ridge]

Everyone gonna start ree-ing now

[vocal shard]

k good to know

[atomic tusk]

they must have banned someone that got pissed they got busted hacking

[vocal shard]

oooof

[atomic tusk]

oh well guess I'll transfer more games to my ssd

[dry marsh]

whenever the servers are down i just start marking more avatars 😛

[boreal ether]

servers be dead

10/10

[umbral reef]

Can we get slowmode boys?!

[spice junco]

rip servers pls nerf bastion

[hoary ridge]

It already is

[radiant thistle]

RIP

[boreal ether]

THAT'S MY GIRL

[umbral reef]

Ow while this is happening- Time to quickly plug something

👌

[hoary ridge]

Rip link

[dry marsh]

lol

[hoary ridge]

Oh its back

[umbral reef]

removed it myself for my mod boys yell

[spice junco]

what was that?

like what does that link do?

[tidal aspen]

If i'm reading the avatar performance thing correctly it takes your lowest ranking as the one displayed? Seems like a pretty bad way to do it

[umbral reef]

@tidal aspen Bingo!

[hoary ridge]

Saved poggers

[south viper]

rofl

[tidal aspen]

Why not just take the average

[umbral reef]

Make a canny post and spam there email to fix it 👏

[hasty wedge]

it didnt even get out of closed beta

y make a canny 4Head

[umbral reef]

Because its stupid

[maiden jewel]

THEY ARE BACK ONLINE

[umbral reef]

Before it even is a thing

[spiral flax]

Online again

[tawny aspen]

yaaay~

[torn nebula]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 6179 users in VRChat currently

[maiden jewel]

can we get banned for playing German marching music over the mic?

and marching with anime avatars?

[umbral reef]

Depends what those avatars are...

[umbral oracle]

If you have to ask...

[maiden jewel]

nico yazawa

from love live

[kind obsidian]

Anyone else getting connection errors?

[umbral oracle]

Pretty sure you would always be ok with pretty much any sort of rp as long as you aren't obnoxious about music playing or it's construed as somehow hateful or nsfw

[spiral flax]

If I start VR Chat and want to go to favorites World, the Section dissapear

Like I see "Favorite Worlds" and then it's gone

[kind obsidian]

Have you favorited any worlds yet?

[spiral flax]

Yes

13

[true sky]

Either world is being updated or the world was removed by the owner

[spiral flax]

if I search one of my favorite worlds up, it still says "unfavorite"

and I can join it

[true sky]

I still have 2 world's that are gone from my favorites

@spiral flax means world is still up, but it's in private

[spiral flax]

Some of them are public

[placid zealot]

Me and my friends can't see our favorite worlds at all. And we were in one we had favourited.

[spiral flax]

Same for me

[placid zealot]

Idk 🤷

[spiral flax]

Always when I restart the whole game and I go to worlds, I see the section Favorite but then it dissapears

[kind obsidian]

Yep, Favorite worlds doesn't appear

[true sky]

[granite sluice]

I seem to have trouble getting into vr chat

I hit the launch button and nothing happends

[spiral flax]

The game has some problems at the moment

[true sky]

Does your processor have AVX instructions?

[spiral flax]

uuhh idk tbh

[granite sluice]

can no one get in rn?

[spiral flax]

What do you mean

[true sky]

https://vrchat.canny.io/vrchat-2017/p/game-wont-start

[jolly delta]

Emm so did you any of you guys have seen the Favorite world section.. its missing though

[twin jacinth]

Jezuz the game is pretty broken atm

[true sky]

I think the favorite worlds was moved down. But shouldn't it be on top like fav avatars?

[covert chasm]

Fav worlds missing is a bug

[fleet ice]

tupper, why my bugreport on the canny was deleted?

[atomic swallow]

And everyones vrc just closes now

[twin jacinth]

Idk why but vrc wont load this 1 public Shrine, it goes into others but this specific one it just denies it and the screen is black

[fading osprey]

Am I understanding correctly that Chair avatars are coming back?!

[odd blaze]

Yeah its been that for some days now, 50/50 chance of a blackscreen on going anywhere, then its 5~15min wait to enter room

[twin jacinth]

its black i can hear the surroundings but then it just stops up

[vocal shard]

It's currently in close beta so probably. @fading osprey

[covert chasm]

@fleet ice It was moved to Bug Reports. The 2017 board was cleared/moved to Bug Reports, then deleted.

[fading osprey]

@vocal shard I hope so! My VRC friends made cars during that brief beta.

[vocal shard]

anyone else getting a problem where they upload to verchat and it is not showing in personal

[covert chasm]

@vocal shard Ensure you're using Unity 2017.4.15f1

precisely

[civic plume]

morning guys, morning Tupper. i saw the livestream yesterday morning :p

you sound exactly like a good friend of mine. i asked him if he was living two lives yesterday. he did not respond O.O

[covert chasm]

I don't have time for a second life

i barely have time for my first one

[vocal shard]

i am useing the new unity

[civic plume]

darn. i really just thought what if he was you lol and i never knew

[vocal shard]

That vid ain't vrc related.

[digital sparrow]

Did the friendlist take a dump

[elfin ether]

I can't log in

Same friend list dump

[mellow zephyr]

Have you attempted to turn it off and on again?

[elfin ether]

Also it says:
ERROR
Could not log in-Internal Server Error

Yes I exited vrchat

[mellow zephyr]

Did you wiggle the switch?

[elfin ether]

?

[mellow zephyr]

Well, when you're turning it off and on again you gotta wiggle the switch a bit

helps

Sometimes you gotta blow in the cartridge.

[elfin ether]

Oh xD

Lol I did!

[mellow zephyr]

it'll work eventually

be persistent

[elfin ether]

I know I'll try later lol

[tidal aspen]

yeah severs seem to be poopin themselves atm

[mellow zephyr]

Later? Now this is how you lose the fight. Much like an intimate drawn out courtship, although you want to take pause at times, you need to know when to go for it!
This
Is
Your
Moment!
off and on again!

yeah probably idk i'm not even on atm

[elfin ether]

I tried! Wiggle the cartridge gave it a blow

[mellow zephyr]

Harder

[elfin ether]

Put alcohol in it

[mellow zephyr]

you ruined it

alcohol makes it stupid

[elfin ether]

Ooof >.<

[mellow zephyr]

That's your issue

[elfin ether]

Damn I broke it

[mellow zephyr]

allas, to break is not to give up.
Just an opportunity to fix what was clearly an issue and not working, remade better than it was before

you'll get there

[elfin ether]

Thank you! ^^

You too!

[mellow zephyr]

but did you really wiggle it

only heretics wiggle that was a trap. you failed

[fresh merlin]

can we expect a rigidbody fix?

i mean world object

[fervent frigate]

Hmm my avatars aren't loading in. Are the servers being derp?

[digital sparrow]

They're kinda fucky yes

[civic plume]

i get the "No Image Found" i think it is

seems as if its cycling through symptoms

[neon flume]

ahoy hoy

[atomic swallow]

Que performance ranking system witch hunts.

[civic plume]

im so depressed

a friend said vrchat would not work... turns out he does not have AVX isntructions :/

his cpu to old..

my average cpu temp atm is 98 XD

celsius

[ancient kindle]

that's a lil hot

[neon flume]

Nice and toasty, you might want to invest in some better cooling

Yeah actually I don't think I've seen temps high on a desktop. Maybe it's a laptop with dust in the fans and heatsink.

[civic plume]

i have a good cooler

just changing some stuff to make it abit cooler lol

i was baking in unity and im on desktop. big beefed up pc so what do i expect lmao

my gpu just crashed

[neon flume]

What cpu are you using? I've heard you generally want to stay under 80 if possible; even when overclocking.

[civic plume]

all my monitors went all pixelated and then unity was white and so was vrchat

what the fuck just happened

7700k

i got a titan v and all stuff is connected to that.. why did my monitors do that

[neon flume]

Do you use open hardware monitor? I suggest it because it'll log your temps in the background so you can see what they were just before the crash.

[civic plume]

but my cpu was hot not gpu? i was baking aswell

wait if my gpu was doing nothing then ... hold up im lost whatg is going on why did it do that XD

[neon flume]

Spooky. I'm not sure either, maybe you can find something in the windows logs.

[vocal shard]

i use vr in vrchat but my vrchat is using my headset instead of my rift headset for audio anybody know how to fix

[neon flume]

In the windows taskbar you should be able to click on the speaker icon and change it to the rift audio. That'll fix it for now. If you're launching via steam vr there are audio settings accessible in the steam vr desktop window that will let you automatically change audio output/input when steam vr is launched and closed.

[vocal shard]

ok thanks

[timid musk]

I was worried about this AVX thing but it appears my card has that which is a huge relief... though if it didn't I imagine I wouldn't be able to get on at all if that was the case rather than being stuck in my homeworld.

[civic plume]

its ur cpu that has it

[timid musk]

I have a i7 6700HQ, according to google it has it. But I'm no techy

[vocal shard]

Yeah you're good

[civic plume]

your fine xx

im abit worried i may have accidentally over temp my titan v

oopsie doopsie

but it was my cpu that was hot so then again i doubt it

blew a couple transisters in the cpu lol

[timid musk]

Yeee good, so it's just something in VRC that's giving me problems. I've been told my problem is server related being trapped in my homeworld and unable to leave without black screening. It sucks because I really want to hang out with friends and not to mention work on a new avatar but I'd be the only one who would be able to see it right now until this issue is fixed.

[civic plume]

wally

its server

wanna play vrchat together? even though the game is ill

[timid musk]

I'd love to but unfortunately I can't right now. I've got stuff to do before I visit family for Christmas. I'd gladly except a friend for next time

[civic plume]

okay

[sleek bone]

Wow, that's kind of ironic. New VRChat promo video features a lot of models above 20k polys yet it doesn't have support for above 20k polys itself

[neon flume]

I'm not sure if you've heard but they're increasing the limit to 70k. It was announced on yesterday's stream.

[sleek bone]

In the next SDK version?

[vocal shard]

It's in closed beta at the moment. So it might be a little while yet. But it's coming

[sleek bone]

@neon flume where's the stream

[neon flume]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/349204611?t=01h20m11s
Found the time stamp where it was announced by Tupper

[errant merlin]

70k...?

[brisk umbra]

Yeah 70k polygon limit

[errant merlin]

Won’t get my hopes up until the devs confirm it

[stiff tree]

but they did

[errant merlin]

For real?

[neon flume]

Yeah if you click that link I sent it should take you straight to the announcement on twitch.

[errant merlin]

What a weird number

[sleek bone]

@neon flume thanks!

[neon flume]

I'm happy to share the good news! 🙌

[brisk umbra]

That is something we needed for awhile now

[night lark]

padoru padoru

[mighty galleon]

hide its a sniper

[brisk umbra]

Where?!

[night lark]

^^^

[mighty galleon]

🏃

[true sky]

I have used a high poly model with 1 material with no lag

But yeah, it's good to increase the limit

The issue is people using too many skinned meshes when not needed and materials

Guns and swords are fine as mesh render with a mesh filter, but there are some who use them as skinned meshes

[brisk umbra]

It’s been 20k since I started back in February

[true sky]

It's been 20k for a long time

Way before February

[mighty galleon]

its been sphagetti

[true sky]

Best thing is getting warnings, which will help avatar creators to make optimized public avatars

[brisk umbra]

Yeah I know since I am world creator it’s really handy when you put avatars in there

[true sky]

Only way rn is PumpkinsAvatarTools

[brisk umbra]

Welp taking a break from my oculus right now to do some unity stuff this afternoon because I had fun doing many bits

[hollow umbra]

I vaguely remember the “bit” wars in the 90s now people are having specs war

[opaque hawk]

There is always going to be something people will fight over. Either to justify something in their mind or to fell better than others.

[vocal shard]

only thing i fight over is my existence and i never feel better then anyone as i am lower then trash can ever be

[stiff tree]

You can feel good about being the best at being the worst I guess

[vocal shard]

maybe

server probs?

[umbral oak]

Hi

[zealous terrace]

can i like rebind my voice key?

on desktop

[safe prism]

nope

[ocean bramble]

Tupper: "Polygons don't really effect the performance"
Having more than 70k poligons, but otherwise perfectly optimized
VRChat: "This avatar has super poor performance and probably stole your frames!!!"

[umbral reef]

Hotox please- We both know we have to rage first before logical events happen

Its not like we had to baby rage about veteran rank to get it removed as it was plain useless

[rigid crescent]

that's true, just riot before hand

[ocean bramble]

But other than that I like these news 👌

[rigid crescent]

throw it in all your discords that way it gets attention earl

[umbral reef]

Avatar stealing being a feature tho is also odd imo

[vocal shard]

Lol... Nah, that won't get abused...

[umbral reef]

can use other peeps there avatar by default...

[sullen escarp]

stealing a public avatar

dunno if you can really call that stealing

[queen mango]

But they gave their consent, yes?

[sullen escarp]

it's public

[umbral reef]

Any avatar set public
What happens by default
And does not mean its from an avatar world

[sullen escarp]

avatars aren't public by default tho

[vocal shard]

I asked around, and most of my friends have their avatars set to public, because they didn't think it made a different..

[umbral reef]

They are soon 👏

[tidal aspen]

I think it said you had to explicitly mark them as "copyable"

[umbral reef]

Read the documents then come back

[sullen escarp]

i think you misread

https://i.imgur.com/ieVm56k.png

the avatar copy feature is enabled by default

not the avatar being public

[umbral reef]

Ayy like that

[sullen escarp]

the avatar copy feature is something you'd find in your Settings tab

[tidal aspen]

I think the wording just makes it seem bad

all things considered

[umbral reef]

welp il undo my complaint then and say its neato

As new users wont get dicked over

[queen mango]

Avatar copying?

👀

[tidal aspen]

next update seems pretty neato aside from the performance ranking

[sullen escarp]

my complaint about it still stands tho https://i.imgur.com/JF7KYM9.png

[vocal shard]

Ok bro, you got a bug. You don't need to go on stream and start complaining about things

[tidal aspen]

it's not there so they CLEARLY removed it INTENTINOALLY 😠

[ocean bramble]

@sullen escarp I think setting them as public and allow copying are different settings

[sullen escarp]

they are

[tidal aspen]

yeah

[umbral oracle]

What happens to all avatars already uploaded

[queen mango]

Red.. Something about nabbing and favoriting avatars from private worlds bothers me a lot

[tidal aspen]

the person wearing the avatar says they are copyable

so anyone can copy the avatar they're wearing if it's public

[umbral oracle]

Oh it's the wearer not the uploader?

[tidal aspen]

the uploader sets it as public

[sullen escarp]

my issue is that you could hand out avatars to visitors with malicious things this way

[ocean bramble]

@sullen escarp So that complaint no longer stands

[rigid crescent]

let him stream it so his 4 viewers can see it lol

[umbral oracle]

I mean it's both: but uploader must mark public AND wearer must mark it copy able

[rigid crescent]

"Now I have to look for the world" oh no

[queen mango]

Considering the rather raunchy world I went to a week ago has 18+ avatars, this is concerning.

[umbral reef]

Ow No! you have to put effort into finding a world like the old old old old days! What an evil bug!

[rigid crescent]

whatever did we do before favoritng?!

[vocal shard]

What ever did you do before favorites were add ... Oh mic beat me

[tidal aspen]

I think RedMage means that someone that has upload permissions can use a public avatar in a private world, and then a visitor can copy that off them

[ocean bramble]

oooh, wait. The one wearing the avatar can choose if he wants to share it?

[tidal aspen]

and that avatar can be a malicious one

[sullen escarp]

what i mean is:
upload malicious avatar
set it to public
let visitors copy it
???
doom

[queen mango]

[umbral reef]

tbh you can already do that

[ocean bramble]

ok, now i understand your complaint 😄

[umbral oracle]

@tidal aspen "I think it said you had to explicitly mark them as "copyable"... the person wearing the avatar says they are copyable" is there a source for this?

[covert linden]

Wait so people can wear my public avatars now?

[tidal aspen]

I misread it

[vocal shard]

Only if you say they can

[tidal aspen]

You can now copy any Public Avatar that another user is wearing as long as they have "Allow Avatar Copying" enabled in the Settings menu! See an avatar that someone's wearing? Want to try it on yourself? As long as it is a Public avatar and the user in question has "Allow Avatar Copying" checked in their Settings menu (enabled by default), then you can just click them, click the button on the right in your Quick Menu, and you're good to go!

[umbral oracle]

Protection for avatar cloning was never implemented for public avatars. Do not make an avatar public if you don't want people using it

[covert linden]

@vocal shard so its like a friend request but for an avatar?

[tidal aspen]

"As long as it is a Public avatar and the user in question has "Allow Avatar Copying" checked in their Settings menu (enabled by default)"

[queen mango]

I wonder if the devs even thought the favorite avatar feature through.. You have 3 avatars in your list, at the push of a button..

[covert linden]

@umbral oracle An avatar I paid for is public

[vocal shard]

In your setting, you can disable people from copying

[umbral oracle]

? How so. Some paid avatars say you should not release it as public or make a pedestal

[mighty galleon]

hi ash

[covert linden]

They uploaded it to my acc under public settings

Hey swamp

[rigid crescent]

then upload it as private

[vocal shard]

my avatar is so tall it breaks out of the map

[covert linden]

I dont have the files

[umbral oracle]

Remember those avatar cloners that were happening months ago? They fixed that but only for private avatars. Expecting a public avatar not to be cloned is risky

[rigid crescent]

lol you realize copiers can still make money off of it by breaking it down for spare parts and using those

[umbral oracle]

@covert linden download unity install the vrchat sdk, log in, go to manage uploaded content, set to privatr. No need to reupload

[sullen escarp]

implying most of those parts aren't taken from MMDs anyway

[queen mango]

[covert linden]

@umbral oracle ive already got all that I make avatars now, just didnt know I could change the settings

[vocal shard]

i mean most of us will use mmd

but i have yet to find mmd for every single one

[umbral oracle]

Ya anyway that's why they have the extra allow copying setting

[mighty galleon]

so wjat unity project do we need now btw?

[rigid crescent]

how do you not have spre parts on your avatar?

all avatars have parts. they're made of parts

[sullen escarp]

single triangle master race

[rigid crescent]

basically lol

[covert linden]

Who woupd wanna copy a single triangle man

I want a tampon avatar really badly

[mighty galleon]

lol

[sullen escarp]

hey dude it's a really nice triangle

[vocal shard]

Illuminati avatar...

[sullen escarp]

it renders spheres on top

[safe prism]

🔺

[vocal shard]

i cant see stuff in the great pug, too tall

[mighty galleon]

so which unity

[covert linden]

I wish the pug wouldnt laag me

I wqss gonna get a new pc soon but now that moneys goiing to paying for my cousins laptop

[mighty galleon]

<.<

[sleek bone]

I am a cubed shaders main

[covert chasm]

Xiexe tbh

[rigid crescent]

poiyomigang

[tidal aspen]

just write your own :^)

[sullen escarp]

^^

[merry canyon]

i use noenoe's

[civic plume]

i use nothing. just standard

[indigo fern]

Arktoon master race

All other shaders need not apply

[mighty galleon]

no n8 nee apply

[vocal shard]

anyone else disconnecting

[queen mango]

So far, my session went fine.

But it did happen to me a few sessions before

[civic plume]

oi

what was that

[sleek bone]

A meme

[mighty galleon]

monty

[civic plume]

what

[mighty galleon]

hi

[civic plume]

hi

[merry canyon]

avatar-making is fun
even when you're sure everything's been done right it still doesn't work
such is the ways of vrchat
it makes sure something's broken so you gotta do it at least twice

[civic plume]

then bug fix

become the developer

put yourself in the dev's shoes. because right now you are. you done something thinking its all good but it isn't.. so fix it

[merry canyon]

i would
but the thing is i don't know how
which is why im waiting for a response in #animation ._.

[covert chasm]

Creating avatars literally is dev work. You're using a game engine with 3D creation tools to make a game asset

Problem-solving is one of the vital skills development requires 😄

[civic plume]

couldn't have said it better tupper 💜

[queen mango]

Just like my math problems.

[mighty galleon]

tupper which unity version we using rn?

[merry canyon]

2017.4.15f1

[vocal shard]

i need some help

[mighty galleon]

no

wait, yes

[civic plume]

whats up @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

im having an issue with my vr chat

[queen mango]

Network issues?

[civic plume]

rip

whats your cpu @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

when i go to start it up my game loads up fine, but when i go to change my charcter it just crashes

[queen mango]

Oof. Disabled skirt components

[civic plume]

whats the crash log say?

[vocal shard]

i can log in and check then write down the error

[queen mango]

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[vocal shard]

lemme do that

[queen mango]

You can send the output log to the VRChat moderation website.

[vocal shard]

is it this one https://vrchat.net/moderation

[queen mango]

Yea..

[covert chasm]

No, you need to contact [e-mail]. See #vrchat-support .

Moderation doesn't help with tech issues.

Also the disabled cloth component crash got patched.

[vocal shard]

ok will do thanks for letting me know

[hollow umbra]

I love cartoon shaders it somehow gives a 3d object outlines

[errant vault]

i draw mine

[vocal shard]

@covert chasm i followed what it said and its all fixed. thanks again for the help

[errant merlin]

Hey Tupper, is it true that the limit is getting bumped to 70k for reals

[hollow umbra]

not knowing how to bump up the polylimit

[covert linden]

Im tiiiireddddd of the lag spikes im gettinnng ogmndjd

[elfin basin]

Anyone know how to free my cursor if it gets stuck in place due to vrchat somehow touching onto it without restarting?

[covert linden]

You cry

[errant merlin]

doing something that is "against the rules"

[merry canyon]

@errant merlin https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.4.4/docs/latest-release
shown here

[opaque hawk]

I'm super excited. A just submitted a world I put a lot of time and effort into for public.

[hollow umbra]

@elfin basin ctrl alt f4 to close then suddenly it fixes itself

[merry canyon]

the limit is indeed being bumped to 70k

[errant merlin]

Poggers

[hollow umbra]

You have to click on an app that is not vrchat tho if you want to stay in game

Limits are meant to be broken -cloud strife from final fantasy vii

[covert linden]

Im so excited except my laptop will die

But then ill gett to have better avatars

Someone dm me when ir changesincase im unawaree xD..

[mighty galleon]

?

[covert linden]

The poly limit

To 70k

[elfin basin]

Uuugh no choice but to restart

[queen mango]

I dunno, but the 70k poly limit seems a bit much.

[covert linden]

I agree

I want 50k

[hollow umbra]

I want no limit. Oh wait

[queen mango]

mean, I could do fine with a... how's you knoe I was gonna type 50k?

[sullen escarp]

yeah, i want 10k

bump it down

[hollow umbra]

Animations have no limits to how many poly it has

Modified sdk also have no limit

[sullen escarp]

that's fine since animations can be disabled

oi no talking about sdk modding here

[hollow umbra]

So can avatar

[woven steppe]

actually... now that you mention animations being disabled

I wonder what my avatar looks like if I change clothes to a person who has my animations disabled

Would I just be like nude...?

[sullen escarp]

you'd probably just do a backflip or something

[woven steppe]

That would arguably be worse now that I think about it

[hollow umbra]

I don’t wear clothes

My avatar is a naked white dude

[covert linden]

I wamma be nakded

[mighty galleon]

<.<

ash, no one wants to go to jail when they see that

[queen mango]

Don't wanna be exposing yourself to some underage people

[mighty galleon]

shes undrage

anyone over 18 look at her? boom jail

[civic plume]

i looked at her 👀

send me to jail

[mighty galleon]

bad monty

[queen mango]

Also, why not do that when you're about to go asleep? Helps a lot.

So.. there are two jailbaits now, me included

[covert linden]

@mighty galleon so mean

[mighty galleon]

ash its not mean

[covert linden]

My boyfriend wpupd like me nude >:c probably

[mighty galleon]

you're underage anyone above 18 would go to jail if they look

[covert linden]

Hes 20

[mighty galleon]

so yeah he'd be arrested xD

[queen mango]

Nyaaow.. I am feeling wet

[covert linden]

Sssh its a secret

Im legal in a month anywho

Also I made elire wet

[mighty galleon]

elires a boy

[covert linden]

So is my boyfriend

Guys can get wet

[mighty galleon]

guys get damp

[covert linden]

Same deal

[mighty galleon]

men get ashy

xD

[indigo fern]

🤔

[covert linden]

Thats illegal

[indigo fern]

no you

[queen mango]

Not within the age we're both in, tho.

Ruubick is online

Quick, change topic

👀

[modern sand]

If you could also clean up the off topic stuff, that'd be great, shouldn't really have to say it

[queen mango]

My apologies...

[modern sand]

It's alright, just a bit tiresome to repeat it to those who already know

[drifting tapir]

[queen mango]

Well, that was some awful timing.

[civic plume]

he had to use the god damn pepe XD

16. No emoji, icons or pictures/memes that are widely associated with hate speech, or are highly inappropriate (such as Pepe)

[drifting tapir]

How is pepe hate speech or highly inappropriate

Tf

[rigid crescent]

dont bother

[safe prism]

that is a very very long story and it's easier to ban it than open the discussion

[civic plume]

what @safe prism said.

[rigid crescent]

youll never get anywhere questionng it

[drifting tapir]

Yikes

[civic plume]

vrchat not loading world thumbnails? O.o

[merry canyon]

i only use quality emotes

[civic plume]

[merry canyon]

..
maybe that one's a little inappropriate

[civic plume]

is nsfw emotes aloud? for example this one or this one

[safe prism]

that's a dangerous question

[merry canyon]

[drifting tapir]

[civic plume]

i am just curious because in the past i have posted the gasm emote and no one says anything and i just got myself wondering. if its not aloud then just say and i wont use it. my heart would break if i got booted from this place. i would become.. very... depressed.. without you people

[safe prism]

if pantsu aren't permitted then you can't allow a handful of default emojis

[civic plume]

tupper are lewd emotes aloud? D: i need to know

[merry canyon]

[mighty galleon]

should try pinging him

[civic plume]

swamp dont trap me

i am scared to ping you do it

[mighty galleon]

@umbral reef

[civic plume]

pushes you out into the open

@umbral reef you do it

[fringe kernel]

what happen to my favorite tab?

[mighty galleon]

?

[civic plume]

broken so removed from game

[mighty galleon]

cute pic shak

[young sedge]

i heard that you can put vrc_station again

but how?

[umbral reef]

hu?

[rigid crescent]

https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.4.4/docs/latest-release

^future stuff

[mighty galleon]

wow, they have it to where people can copy your avatar if you alow it

[rigid crescent]

Latest patch notes: Implementing shame olympics lol

[hardy crystal]

Hi guys

[minor pasture]

@rigid crescent lol too true

[civic plume]

The SDK's limit on polygon (triangle) count is now 70,000, and will now warn you if your avatar is unoptimized in the Build Control panel. You read that right! Check out the SDK section below for details on the changes to the SDK

guys theres so much

go to what Mic posted

[ionic leaf]

If I'm reading this right my otherwise good avatar will be ranked as poor because I have a single dynamic bone collider in both hands?

[civic plume]

https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.4.4/docs/latest-release

this is amazing

[woven steppe]

Eyy... I have a very poor avatar.

[queen mango]

Oof. Why so?

[woven steppe]

Because of all the gimmicks I've got in it

[ionic leaf]

actually, If I'm reading this right any dynamic bone colliders AT ALL means poor rank?

[civic plume]

GUYS I AM SO HAPPY THIS UPDATE IS AMAZING

[queen mango]

Assuming sarcasm, I suppose

[civic plume]

no

[mighty galleon]

why so happy

[civic plume]

the avatar perf ranking will be tweaked over time but the other stuff i love it

[woven steppe]

See the idea of my current avatar is so that I only have to upload one avatar instead of eight avatars

[civic plume]

this is a good direction

[mighty galleon]

but monty

[civic plume]

what

[mighty galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/461379693019660288/523783713537130498/why.PNG

[woven steppe]

so all the clothes and knick knacks and doodads are in it... and I just activate whichever one I feel like having on.

[mighty galleon]

i dont like that idea

[ionic leaf]

enabled by default?!?!?!? Fuck no

[woven steppe]

which obviously means I've pretty much put what used to be eight separate avatars... into a single avatar...

[placid zealot]

I like the idea of the avatar ranking. Some of mine definitely need work to be optimized but to me it feels like it's a motivation to learn to optimize my avatars.

[civic plume]

i dont like that

On by default

[queen mango]

That's gonna be a lot of CPU lag.

[mighty galleon]

it justs means people who dont read these updates will think someone stole their avaar and do false reports

[ionic leaf]

oh, if it's a public avatar

[true sky]

i wonder if avatars that had the component on it will work or if they have to be reuploaded

[woven steppe]

I mean you can't complain someone stole your avatar that you found on an avatar world...

[ocean needle]

Does anyone know who made Void Club?, i need to find a specific song on the playlist of the void club

[placid zealot]

Lycon

They have a discord group

[mighty galleon]

no ach, some people upload avatars to their profile and forget to click private

[ionic leaf]

it private by dffault tho

[ocean needle]

@placid zealot whats their number on discord

[woven steppe]

isn't it ticked on private by default?

[civic plume]

well my avatar will not be shared ever. and i will seriously complain if it does

[queen mango]

I doubt I would share mine..

[mighty galleon]

is it? i always remember having to click that

[woven steppe]

Also content warnings... does anybody else tick any of those?

[placid zealot]

@ocean needle Can I send you the invite via dm?

[covert linden]

It is by default but like

[true sky]

if people want my avatars that bad, i already have them online, but they have to guess where to get them

[ocean needle]

@placid zealot sure go ahead

[covert linden]

I gotta update all my commissioned avatars

[ocean needle]

@placid zealot its one song remix that im pretty sure is a remix of a early 00s song or 90s song

[umbral reef]

you can just get them set to private what is the default avatar upload state

[woven steppe]

If the polygon counter counts disabled pieces of mesh then mine's gonna be like 120,000 or so

mean could be worse

[true sky]

not sure poly count will count or not

[umbral reef]

Everyone is gonna be very good, medium, poor and very poor

No one will ever be good optimized 😂

[true sky]

if it does, then

[rigid crescent]

no, everyone is gonna be poor

[umbral reef]

And the poor and very poor is just special for avatar peeps

[true sky]

they complain when they show as poor >:)

[woven steppe]

will it actually count disabled stuff? Coz ho boy... I've got a lot of disabled stuff lol.

[true sky]

so either way, its going to be poor

[woven steppe]

Then again my Avatar's gonna be very poor even if you don't consider disabled stuff

[umbral reef]

most arent poorly optimized tho

[rigid crescent]

im gonna be poor because i dont know how to achieve my cute hair without descending order scripts

[umbral reef]

If someone is one material, no other shit but 70K polygons

[covert linden]

Ill be poor but ill keep my lowpoly avatars for public worlds

[rigid crescent]

but i dont t hink the amount of scripts matters

[umbral reef]

the are poorly optimized
But that is a flat out lie

[mighty galleon]

idk what ill be

[covert linden]

Im.gonna be poor because aall the avatars I want are like 70polys and now I dont need to destroy them

[true sky]

we shall see when open beta comes out

[ionic leaf]

I'll be poor because two hand colliders for dyn bones

[true sky]

2 colliders isnt bad

[rigid crescent]

these numbers will cahnge though, theyre closed beta

[woven steppe]

I have like 50 physics colliders but all but one's disabled most of the time...

[covert linden]

Anyone know a good estimate for this releasee? I dunno.if I wanna postpone my avatar design till it lifts

They shouldve said 50k if theyre gonna go crazy otherwise people will be like wtf you fooled us!?!!?

[woven steppe]

just work on your avatar already

[covert linden]

Ive made like 5 and uploaded 2

I havent not made mine wym

[woven steppe]

Better to have progress made and be ready for finishing when whatever update you're waiting for hits

[covert linden]

Oh truuue

Itd be sad to make dozsns of 70k avatars for the limit to be 50k.though but perhappps just ill make tons of 50k avatars xD

[woven steppe]

just make lower poly versions

[rigid crescent]

the numbers will most likely change so id wai

[covert linden]

Im holding off till I at least get a mouse which is soon.so I can learn swapping

[potent beacon]

@thorny pond

[civic plume]

anyone know why my windows button wont pull up my start menu anymore lol

whats the hot key to enable it XD

[true sky]

just restart explorer.exe in task manager

fixes it for me

[woven steppe]

the hell you need your start menu for?

[civic plume]

thanks bud it worked

[true sky]

👌

[mental scaffold]

VRChat runs under wine now ✅

https://i.lurr.xyz/LosA.png

[rigid crescent]

nice

[true sky]

nice, but support isnt that great on linux and wine itself

if it runs, it good 😃

[mental scaffold]

it runs just as well ats the windows version

[rigid crescent]

probably not intentional, is it?

[true sky]

some people it works, some it doesnt

[mental scaffold]

this is under wine 4.0-rc1 with DXVK 0.93

• unity updated recently

[atomic tusk]

checks the avatar performance rating info

so if you use colliders at all you get bumped to poor...

[civic plume]

collision calculations are heavy then? O.o

[umbral nova]

How are people getting avatars with such high material counts?! I just checked the world submission thing and I think I saw one that was around 118 or something

[umbral reef]

mmd and dont merge anything

[umbral nova]

And then there was the one with 36 skinned mesh renderers

[umbral reef]

mmd users dont need to optimize as its just one avatar for them

[rigid crescent]

i mean colliders are heavy performance killers

[umbral nova]

Yea but even then I don't think there would be that much

From what I've seen there usually aren't too many materials on any MMD model, though at the same time I never look at them anyway.

The skinned mesh renderer thing I'd understand if it was a game rip, but nothing else

Still doesn't beat that "Ni co" world though

That was a riot when I saw that thing

[earnest harbor]

any moderators want to have some fun with a guy using a modified client with fake admin tools?

[umbral nova]

10643 dynamic bone transforms

@earnest harbor They won't take your word for it, record evidence and report it to [e-mail]

[languid beacon]

My avatar has no dyn bones, no colliders, and only has 2 materials, assuming the problem is not polygon count, what else could cause lag?

[atomic tusk]

unoptimized map

bad performing shader

[rigid crescent]

skinned mesh renders, shaders, lights, etc

[queen mango]

Skinned meshes?

What are those?

[atomic tusk]

that's the mesh directly affected by the skeleton

and weight painted to those bones

[queen mango]

Hmm..

[atomic tusk]

essentially it's the base mesh of your model

or "Body" mesh if you have everything merged like you're supposed to do

[elder tapir]

The end of the Flexing era

[rigid crescent]

the beginning of the shame olympics

[elder tapir]

Dam

You right

[vocal shard]

is the avatar dev version still 5.6.3p1 ?

[civic plume]

no

it is now 2017.4.15f1

[vocal shard]

oh what is itn ow

ty

[civic plume]

you can get it here

https://unity3d.com/get-unity/download/archive

[true sky]

or get unity hub and enter this in browser to install the correct version of unity:
unityhub://2017.4.15f1/5d485b4897a7

since 2017.4.15f1 isnt on the list in unity hub

[civic plume]

unity hub is shit

just go search up the version you need and install. thats it

[glossy wharf]

I dont see how unity hub is shit, its a qol thing thats pretty neat for managing versions

[civic plume]

idk it never showed the version i needed and kept forcing me to change my version. a couple times it updated even without saying

when that happens it has to re calc hashes and crunch compress everything again ugh

[glossy wharf]

Mine never auto updated and its not default behaviour, it asks if you want to enable auto updating

You must have clicked yes

[civic plume]

idk i got rid of it and went and found the version myself. all is done and im happy 😃

[sweet stream]

Any avatar worlds with Christmas avatars?

[magic agate]

Fortuna Office has a pretty cute Christmas avatar @sweet stream 👀

[lean coyote]

https://imgur.com/gallery/J9SJftq

Does anyone know the name of this skin

[civic plume]

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU792AU792&biw=1350&bih=917&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=cjQWXKfBB8yA9QPn67PADA&q=sena+film+anime&oq=sena+film+anime&gs_l=img.3...1018.2101..2217...0.0..0.476.1559.2-1j1j2......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i5i30j0i8i30j0i24.ifHeSb3zYrk

@lean coyote maybe her?

[shy nest]

generic anime model #668432

if i had to guess

[tulip isle]

Voice training.. does wonders.

[tacit plank]

Being 10 was better because my body wouldn't hurt constantly. In fact I was around abusive people but my body still recovered just fine.
But yeah, being able to do a loli voice seems like fun

[vocal shard]

Servers down ?

[hollow sluice]

jfc met daniel from sl in vr chat

[glossy wharf]

[civic plume]

well i nearly suffocated from a quite scary asthma attacc

then this guy said something that i dont even remember and now im in my chair all fine

i've never felt so scared yet so lucky before lol

[weary bison]

@vocal shard don't think so

[rocky blaze]

just me or is loading weird now with the black screen that force you to close your game

[civic plume]

Night everyone! see you all again soon 💜

[umbral reef]

0\nighty

[brave granite]

Where should I report a bug with the SDK that causes the editor interface to freeze periodically? Pretty sure it's caused by reading the SDK version from a file every frame when the build control panel is open.

I just had enough after a week of tearing my hair out over it and the last 2-3 hours systematically narrowing down the cause

[tacit plank]

The canny would be a good place

Is in in newer SDKs? I know an old SDK had issues with freezing up at times with the build panel open

[brave granite]

newest one on 2018.4.15f1 just now, process monitor gave me around ~50000 file read events on version.txt in like 30 seconds in the vrcsdk folder, that's why I think that's what the problem is

[tacit plank]

Holy shit, yeah, report that

It's probably bad for the lifetime of one's HDD/SSD

[median basalt]

You'll probably get a remark like "we are aware of this lmao"

Tupper already mentioned something like that ages ago, they were aware of memory leaks while that panel was open too

[tacit plank]

https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports

[brave granite]

alright thanks

[ocean bramble]

Holy shit 50k in 30s? That will bring down any ssd super fast

I experience those periodic freezes as well

[tacit plank]

If you AFK with the window open...

[ocean bramble]

I always have the build panel open as well. Rip my ssd

@brave granite How did you check the amount of reads?

[tacit plank]

If I open the upload thing and close it again without uploading, I'm not seeing a lot of reads, apart from one labeled "Others"

reads 83.5k (mostly from opening Unity)
writes: 14k
other: 246k
in 263 billion cpu cycles (8 sec kernel time)
with 3 million page faults

[covert linden]

My grading is gonna say terribleee :(

Maybe ill lag myself and be like nope and make good graded ones xD

[tacit plank]

CATS should be able to fix it without breaking anything in most cases

[umbral reef]

Most of the ranking is still stupid tho

[tacit plank]

It needs adjusting, but they made that clear themselves

[umbral reef]

When?

[tacit plank]

In that post they did

"Numbers are not final and we are still adjusting" or something

[covert linden]

They shouldve gave a lower number estimate imo

If they said 50 and gave 70, people would be excited. Say 70 and change it to 50 some may get sour

[median basalt]

They always say that they're adjusting things though

[tacit plank]

The colliders are strange to me
These are the numbers for Very good to Poor
0, 0, 0, 32

[median basalt]

If the last open beta is anything to go by, they don't give a shit about open beta feedback in the slightest

Colliders are stupid, having 1 collider can get you from Great to Poor

[umbral reef]

Look how much tweaking it took or the trust system to be perfect :^)

[median basalt]

And besides, the limits are too harsh because they go by the lowest

[brave granite]

@ocean bramble there's a program called Process Monitor that records every event (including file reads and writes) on the system with and you can filter it by a number of criteria like path or process executable, it's a standard troubleshooting utility by Microsoft Sysinternals, I just pressed record on procmon and wiggled my mouse around with right click held in the editor until I got the freeze, then go to Tools -> File Summary, and sort by total events

[median basalt]

You can be optimized in literally every way, but have 50001 polys and you're POOR PERFORMANCE REEE!!!!

Of course, 30k polys with 16 dynamic bone transforms, 4 materials and 5 meshes is a-okay

[brave granite]

also I don't think it was 50k reads, just 50k events related to the read, not too important difference, a lot is a lot

[covert linden]

I only ever go in friends or private rooms so me having a really high poly and bone count wont matter (since ive got the worst pc in the group) but ive got a feeling there will be two kind of people

The people with very pooooor avatars and the peeople with pretty good ones who are like why do you make shit avatars?

[vital rune]

honestly with all the shit that's going on

[covert linden]

But id change to a good avatar for public worlds to be nice

[vital rune]

I'm not even sure if I would want to go back in the game

[umbral reef]

Its legit not just number tweaking what they should do...
The core idea is neat, informing users about optimization and making clear what avatars are really bad...
But how they worked it out- One thing too high? Instantly lower rank is plain stupid and even promotes the wrong idea and to not care about it even...

[median basalt]

Yeah lmao, why should I care about optimizing any of my dynamic bones if I'll just get marked as poorly performing by default

[vital rune]

I would go back on like the 19th or something

[covert linden]

A bad avatar would lower my user rank?

[vital rune]

but the updates really didn't give me motivation

[median basalt]

@covert linden no

[covert linden]

Oh ok good

[umbral reef]

Lower performance rank*

[covert linden]

If given the oppertunity id do less decimating and keep my avatar at 70k, while still having movement in the hair and clothes. Sounds bad and it probably is too, as long as I dont lag myself its chill

But people who do that shouldnt wear those avatars where people could crash, public ones

[umbral reef]

If one thing is still within the poor zone nothing changes

So if one thing is within the medium zone- You can just as good up everything a bit to make it look better without passing the next one really...

As your fucked anyway- If its for one thing or for ALL

[vital rune]

so basically

[covert linden]

I hope people can count the tries or whatever on your avatar, if ive gor a shitty rating myself I want them to know the avatar im wearing at the moment isnt terrible

[vital rune]

the new avatar meta is to make everything static

no dynamic bones, no colliders, no nothing

just under the poly limit and only 1 material

[umbral reef]

Or people will just not give a fuck and do the same they arleady do

Just like those avatar world peeps
They are legit bypassing the new world rules and isntead just change avatar id's or make there world link only...

Just because "My avatar isnt that unoptimized! So why should i care! Im not going to put hours of work into optimizing 100 avatars!"

[vital rune]

I have to scrap or rework like what

half of my damn avatar library

[covert linden]

"Enjus world of highly optimized avatars"

I can see that name being used at least once

[umbral reef]

Fairly sure they would not approve it by now

Same that worlds with "Lagg free" or "Highly optimized" arent allowed

[covert linden]

I just saw a world called lag free like yesterday

[umbral reef]

Then the world hasnt been updated in ages

[covert linden]

Ah ok thatd make sense

[tacit plank]

"Very good avatar world" would probably be allowed

[covert linden]

"Opp team mized avatar world"

[vocal shard]

🤔 hmmm.... Nothing wrong there

Lol

[covert linden]

Its like the avatars are horrid but just manage to be put into a world

Or like they decimated it so hard core the shape of the legs are lost

[vital rune]

I hate decimation

[covert linden]

Same so im excited

[vocal shard]

I don't mind some decimation, but im glad we can be more lenient now. 23k is the sweet spot for my avatar

[covert linden]

I think I just heard my parents hitting eachother ono thats not good

[vocal shard]

Oh damn... Sorry to hear that ash

[covert linden]

I dont mind but I opened up an avatar woth 100k tries yesterday and just sighed

Nah its fine

And I was like no way am I ridding of 80k without destroying her

[vocal shard]

Yeah. One thing to look for regarding decimation are small objects. More often than not, I've found small things like bracelets, buttons, or just other small things to be thousands of polygons

[tacit plank]

I think one would agree that you'll never need above 70k. 20k is too strict though

Yup. Metal buttons and such are baad. Anything round, really

[civic plume]

can’t sleep what you guys doing

[covert linden]

I agree there, I can decimate from 100k to 70 easier but most avatars I find have 50k

[ruby needle]

even if the limit goes to 70k you should still decimate as much as possible without any real visual compromise

[civic plume]

my original avatar was 60k and i decimated to 12k so i could add otherstudf but it scuffed it hard

[tacit plank]

I sometimes find 150k ones, but it's usually because it's a whole pack of outfits placed inside eachother, with most of them being invisible

[umbral reef]

@ruby needle y tho?

[errant vault]

oh

[tacit plank]

Above 2^15-1=65535 polygons, the mesh is split in two in Unity. This is bad for performance

[ruby needle]

file / ram sizes, and there is no reason to be wastefull just because you can

[umbral reef]

Fairly sure not within 2017 unity caff

[tacit plank]

And in general, polygons do matter for performance. Just not as much as the other factors like Dynamic bones

[covert linden]

The only time id optimize to a good extent is if well I lagged myself or if it was an avatar id wear in public, if im just with my friends I dont see the harm

[tacit plank]

Oh, really? 😮

[median basalt]

I mean, if the game is gonna mark me as "poor performance" because I have 1 collider and 2 collider-affected transforms, I might as well keep my model at 67k

[umbral reef]

@ruby needle Most users wont know that or really care about that..
And its not like there is an effective system in place because of what rokk just said

[median basalt]

I can decimate it to 50k while keeping quality but why would I? It barely makes a difference and I'll still be marked poorly performing

[umbral reef]

So people spending time optimizing avatars to be kind aint gonna be a thing...

[civic plume]

what’s the negative when you get marked poorly?

[median basalt]

Oh, and don't forget

[umbral reef]

that you are marked poorly optimized

[median basalt]

Those extra performance marks on your nameplate

[vocal shard]

You get a visible icon on your nameplate

[civic plume]

in public?

[umbral reef]

Yes

[median basalt]

The mere fact that those performance marks exist means another 5 drawcalls added to nameplates, for a grand total of 20

[civic plume]

ffs

that’s what i was thinking

[umbral reef]

Everyone will be marked poor or very poor so dw

[median basalt]

👏 Optimize 👏 your 👏 nameplates 👏 before 👏 you 👏 ask 👏 us 👏 to 👏 optimize 👏 avatars

[civic plume]

thespaceman9000.exe has crashed

[covert linden]

An lets remove or change the safety hotkey because 90% of the time I press it by accident trying to do gesturessss

[umbral reef]

inb4 everyone gets listed as poorly optimized for having 20+ drawcalls by default :^)

[vital rune]

yea I'll take few more days before I will truly go back in VRChat

probably 2-3 days

other games like Killing Floor 2 are now occupying me

[vocal shard]

Ok

[civic plume]

at least crash avatars have died down

[umbral reef]

Now they just logg you out :^)

[civic plume]

yeah

[covert linden]

I havent encountered one and I feel lucky

But the only public worlds I go to are small or the void club

[vital rune]

I barely if not never go to public worlds

[median basalt]

I encountered one logout modded client yesterday

Staying out of public worlds seems like such a waste to me

[umbral reef]

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/vrchat-discord-moderation getting some movement on this- nice

[covert linden]

I havr a friend group.I chill with now

[civic plume]

i managed to get all the friends i knew who were making crash avatars so that if they got banned they’d have to keep remaking accounts but eventually they gave up. i did it only to help the crash thing die out quicker

[covert linden]

We go to void club public ooccasionally for cripped spiderman

[civic plume]

i’m tired that makes no sense

my comment

i’m brain dead now gonna sleep night night

[vocal shard]

Night

[covert linden]

I just hope I dont lag myself

[vocal shard]

I don't think you will.

[covert linden]

I hope not, my fps is already low

[summer fable]

Hi everyone

[grim canopy]

my world isnt even public yet, and someone joined my world when it was set friends +

He left when i said what are you doing in my privet world and he left without saying anything

[rocky blaze]

aawwww they removed the double jump

[covert linden]

@grim canopy could be a friends friend

[grim canopy]

no he spawned right after i did

i was like what the

[covert linden]

@grim canopy But actually I als had someone randomly join my friends + world who wasnt my friend or any of my friend friends yesterday, like total stranger somehow got into the world👀

[grim canopy]

ik

thats what happened

[covert linden]

If it happened to you too it actually might be a bug

[grim canopy]

no its a world thats not public yet

[covert linden]

Doesnt matter, randos can join friends plus by accident so it is a bug

My guess is he tried to join his friend and it sent him therr

[grim canopy]

i asked around hes a random

[covert linden]

Ask how he got there

[grim canopy]

he silently left after i asked him who are you

[covert linden]

The dude who randomly joined mine went to join a friend but it sent him to my world

[grim canopy]

he had a mic

[covert linden]

If he had hacked in to join he wouldve done more than just leave

[grim canopy]

it was on can hear his keyboard

[covert linden]

Probably knew that he wasnt in the right placr

[grim canopy]

idk its very suspicius

[covert linden]

I was in friends plus by myself and a random dude came, but he spoke and told me he tried to join his friend . It was none of my friends

[ruby burrow]

This sounds similar to a bug that was happening previously due to the beta.

When players attempted to join a friend that was in the beta, it was instead sending them all to a specific world.

[covert linden]

I assumed it was a glitch like that, probably coulda reported it but assumed it was somehow a bug on my end xD

[ruby burrow]

They were all joining, and saying they were trying to find their friend. Then attempting to join their friend again, but just turning up in the same map again. (much to their confusion)

[grim canopy]

what if i told you it happened when i just logged in and went to menu joined my world in 5 secs and entered my world in 3 secs... he spawned right after... freaked me out i saw a green name right at the side of my screen

[covert linden]

Yeaah it was the same for me

[grim canopy]

no friend was there that fast for someone to join

[ruby burrow]

This was in your home room then?

[covert linden]

Yeah same with me it was instant

[grim canopy]

my own world

[covert linden]

For me it was an alice scary map

[ruby burrow]

A friend of mine sort of had that once, but instead of randoms it was all his friends that were able to just join without asking for invites.

[grim canopy]

should i report this? my one friend said i should

[opaque hawk]

Good morning 😃

[covert linden]

I found it pretty funny tbh

[grim canopy]

i find it disturbing to me

[ruby burrow]

I suppose there's no harm in reporting it, since even if it's not malicious and just a bug, that'd make it a bug report?

Though dunno if that'd get properly passed from moderation through to bug reports or not.

[covert linden]

Im sure friends worlds are more secure

Its the plus that probably causes the glitch

[ruby burrow]

Did you save the logs from that session?

[grim canopy]

i screen shot him before he left

very lucky i did

[covert linden]

I doubt he hacked in so I dont think itd be fair to report him as a person

[grim canopy]

welllll idk, being cautious doesnt hurt

[covert linden]

Not for you but for him yes

[opaque hawk]

I had to report someone because they were sexually harassing people in the pug. I think I screwed up because I reported them under “sexual” and saw harassment the moment I clicked the button.

[ruby burrow]

It's hard to say really, but I do lean on what Ash is saying, that they're probably not a hacker.

[vocal shard]

I've had it where when i load into my own map, it made a public version of it for some reason. I think its a rare glitch

[umbral reef]

Its best to record them and send a video towards [e-mail] anyway
It is almost imposible for them to ban someone for saying something without proof @opaque hawk

[ruby burrow]

The people who know how to hack into random worlds like that, don't show up as an avatar with their name in view. They won't be visible at all, not even in the social menu.

[covert linden]

It happened to me yesterday the same day so if thsts two coincidences so its almost guarnteed not a hacker

[opaque hawk]

It’s a good practice to check your logs if something weird goes down and you either crash or get logged out.

[covert linden]

Theu didnt get either

[ruby burrow]

And they'll be there to do something other than just jump out immediately.

[covert linden]

They probablt were silent because they knew it was the wrong place

[opaque hawk]

I still get time outs pretty regularly, but I can confirm those are not from users

[covert linden]

I dont very often

It was so funny when he joined because seconds later came my boyfriend than his friend and we were like uh whos this

[opaque hawk]

Oh you play with your boyfriend. I’ve found VRChat is a great place for couples to spend time together.

[covert linden]

I met him on vrc

[opaque hawk]

lol, yeah the couples in my friends circle meet through VRChat as well.

[vocal shard]

It's better than other online chat rooms. The freedom is just great

[covert linden]

It feels real most of the tjme

[left fjord]

man someone joining randomly like that in your own private world alone and not saying anything would be pretty terrifying

now imagine if they had some spooky avatar

[covert linden]

Its pretty funnyyy

[opaque hawk]

It should be said that if you set your status to blue (or cyan) in game anyone can join you. That status auto accepts private world invites.

[covert linden]

Yeah mine was green

[fallen halo]

Are there any cube images of a galaxy? im completely new to unity but im wondering if 4 images exist online that i can put int he formation of a cube to look like the world is in space, or if there is anything i can use to make a moving galaxy

[rigid crescent]

Are you trying to make a world? That question would be good for #world-development because i know it's possible.

[quartz basin]

Some of you also have a problem after the update that the GPU has way more workload now? Presentation room with 6 people is maxing out my GPU and then I only have 10FPS

[safe marsh]

So i jusr ralised that little black spot i have in left lense might not be a dead pixel but just a little bit of dust

is it hard to remove a lens? .-.

in the vive that is

[twin jacinth]

i have the same and i do not think it's dust

it's been there for me for a while and it only appears on certain colors in the game

[safe marsh]

a dead pixel would lit up a certain color

this is just a black tiny smudge, not coherent to what a pixel would look like

[whole lodge]

What was the world with the interactable physics?

[stoic halo]

tfw hackers can send you warning messages and ban you now

[twin jacinth]

Hmm then i'm not sure, you can try to be careful and scrape it off with your nail, also if you run your finger across the lens you should be able to feel if it's anything stuck there

[languid beacon]

Dead pixels are always black

Stuck pixels can have 1, 2, or all three subpixels stuck either on, off, or stuck at a certain intensity. There are many kinds.

So yeah it’s probably a stuck pixel.
They change color depending on what they are supposed to be, they’ll just be wrong

Usually you don’t see those on OLEDs though

[rigid crescent]

@stoic halo just restart the client, it's not a real ban

[stoic halo]

oh i haven't had it happen to me. just a friend was showing me someone do it to. him

[vocal shard]

To free it, get microscopic pliers and unstick it.

[rigid crescent]

yeah, not a "true" ban, just a logout with a message attached essentially

[stoic halo]

dead pixels are also. pink and green

[languid beacon]

Do not do anything to your hmd screen if you want a warranty just RMA it

Any little microscopic scratch on your screen is going to be huge in vr . You shouldn’t physically contact the screen in any way

[scarlet fox]

I miss days when vrchat worked :/

[vocal shard]

Not working?

[scarlet fox]

No, it doesn't load anything

[subtle prawn]

😦

[opaque hawk]

Some people were left behind sadly because of the new update

Not on purpose

[atomic tusk]

you know I don't understand why they just don't add an option for people to just disable dynamic bones and colliders...

[umbral reef]

@atomic tusk it's called turning those avatars off

[opaque hawk]

It’s never that easy

[atomic tusk]

then you'd be blocking 90% of avatars :X

[vocal shard]

Either delete OculusSpatializer.dll(in the plugins folder) or add a copy of that dll to the main folder
@scarlet fox

[scarlet fox]

I deleted plugins folder

It worked after that, now I'm stuck in my home world...

[vocal shard]

Oh.

[ruby needle]

dont delete the whole folder

[vocal shard]

☝️

[quartz basin]

In a public world someone was forcefully changing my avatar to a model which I don't even have in my avatar list.

[tacit plank]

They can still do that?

[median basalt]

Well yeah

At any time, any world can change your avatar for any reason

[scarlet fox]

How do I get it back?

[median basalt]

I got whacked with a stick that turned me into another avatar once

[tacit plank]

It's not the world doing it, I believe

[median basalt]

Well a world can do it

On an OnEnterTrigger or just straight up loop an OnEnable trigger

[tacit plank]

I think it's a network message

[opaque hawk]

Yes, anything can be pedestal in a world

[tacit plank]

Like logout

[median basalt]

That's also a possibility

[tacit plank]

Wait... Log out is probably a message... At least they can seemingly do both for other players

[rigid crescent]

THe disable dynamic bones etc is on the canny im pretty sure

[atomic tusk]

Hackers are some of the most obsessive people you would ever meet

[main barn]

Do someone know how I can transfer a steam account to vrchat Account?

[rigid crescent]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-201841

[languid beacon]

Changing your avatar is not “hacking” >_> worlds can change your avatar. As part of the gameplay. Most people just use the prefab which requires clicking on it but you can change avatars by bumping into something. Or standing at a spot, or anything

However the world creator set it up. If you find yourself changing avatars unexpectedly, don’t use that world it’s just how it works

[tacit plank]

If others send a message telling your avatar to change, that's tecnically hacking though