#vrchat-general-2
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i ran the 2017 update in vr the other day before it closed and worked fine so its a new patch
D:
Hopefully they figure out a way to fix the avatars that can fuck over your cpu
trying to change avatars, go to another world
apparently Titan V is not a vr ready card thats why its lagging out the only titan that is vr ready is the titan RTX
impossible. it ran before smooth as fuck though O.O
@quiet river worse they can do is a bsod
And particles can already prevented if you use the particle limiter (not the trust system)
Yeah lmao rip Monty buying Titan V and RTX comes out at 2.500 instead of 3
and other games like beat saber and the forest and fallout 4 and others
no i bought this titan v when it came out coz my rendering projects i was doing but like whaaaaaaa
wich is strange due to u used it for Vr before ?
yeah
MMM
Yeah I have a limiter already had like 5.dudes try to.crash me and when I didn't move they were like did you get him? Then I moved around again and said nah lol
i know 110% sure it runs vr fine
Titan v should be able to do vr fine
whats ur frame rate in VRChat
i have the fps on but its not showing :/
it shhould but alot of people arecomplaiing on reddit
let me check the thing uh
like actual vr just stutters
like stop start stop start endlessely
sometimes this happens when your in menu and go back to the game and it lags out for no reason
@quiet river and devs have said they are also working on other ways to prevent crashes so just sit tight ;p
monty can i give you a call on dicord
Maybe make something to detect modified clients
i cant on call to my missus :/
i am gonna try some stuff il come back if it works
is ur Vr headset spazzing out if yes i might have a answer
yeah sorta i guess
like lag but idk if it is lag idkk
i just launched the forest and no lag
its vrchat for sure. let me re launch vrchat
The game is making use of instructions it didn't before with the unity update.
i know
Your CPU might not be playing friendly.
occasional stutters or real lag?
his cpu is not suppose to run 100%
only vrchat though?
he has a 7700 Intel
atm its 80
My CPU load definitely went up.
But yeah a 7700 maybe shouldn't
80% cpu, vrchat is using 30%
wich is high
Are you sure your GPU is loading the game
what is using the other 50%
Don't a proper of restart yet?
- o
sorry i am not giving proper values to what your saying vrchat uses 30-40% cpu and my total usage is around 80% to 70%
steam VR ?
Like shut down shut down and not restart/sleep mode
Oh wow
I used to get stutters in beat saber when having things in the background
Well
Turning stuff off and on again often does magic
is VRchat like
maxing 2/8 cores
nothing is running but ur cpu is loaded for 80%, 15% of which is vrchat
vrc is multicore now
VRC is badly threaded if it has no properly open cores to use it'll lag yuh.
It may be multicore now.
multithread idk
But how much does that really mean (^:
Wait, it can't use hyperthreads?
Steam nope
for some reason i cant reallyu change the app res in steam vr. maybe something is wrong there why is it do that?
nope
I can distribute one particular calculation to another thread and claim my program is "multithreaded"
most of my load is still on one core
(^:
here look at this
it is multicore
go to uh #vrchat-pictures
everything with enough threads can use hyperthreading, it's just a separate queue for threads so your cpu doesn't have idle times between jobs
ok this is strange look at this
ah cant copy paste, its like my gpu does not see vrchat. the voltage is 0.8 istead of 1.3 or 1.2 when in games....
but only for vrchat it does this
when i leave vrchat it goes to 1.050v and core clockc goes back to 2ghz
when in vrchat core clock goes to 1,6 ghz and 0.8volt O.o
wtf they have fucked something for sure..
sounds like the gpu is expecting load, so undervolting while load is low to keep temps down
and then not actually getting the load
only voice has been moved to a separate thread right now AFAIK. so yes VRC is multithreaded since update, just not much has been moved yet.
in other words, VRC isn't recognizing your gpu
probably
Fairly sure the IK will move also soon
that would be awesome
di you see the pic he sent that gpu is getting massive spike loads
o i thought the corner was cpu
Dont quote me on that stuff though
i've never actually used steamvr (^:
temp is low, 40C (celsius)
it would be in their best interest most likely
di you get my message in vrc pictures
i got them. i am gonna quickly duck and do something. but the task manager is all normal theres nothing weird its just when the game lags it creates spikes of red in that display thing, my gpu is not being picked up either i dont think..
inb4 u playing on intel hd
i am going to bios. Brb
the undervolting definitely sounded like it was the program that was confused, not the system
but i suppose there's a chance it's the other way
which program?
VRC presumably
why would it undervolt if it wasn't being used?
the driver is recognizing that something is ready to put load on the gpu and sets it to variable clocks
then nothing gets sent to it
that's what it looks/sounds like to me
same
when a game is running with the GPU, they will undervolt when there is no load to cool down
if there is nothing being sent they'll just stay undervolted
right and when i leave vrchat and go to the home world in steam vr beta the voltage goes back up
okay few bios settings changed and reboot done just loading up vr now
say steamvr uses your gpu, but vrchat doesnt. That would easily explain drop in voltage, cuz idle
it could be either way really
that’s what i practically said there yeah
it's dropping because it expects to be used and sets the clock range broader
or it's dropping because it stops being used at all yeah
my gpu is cold so not getting false readings
sleepy gpu

things said moments before disaster
lol
i hope not i think it was my chips but idk it sounds like capacitor because i work at making pcb boards i know the sound haha
trying vr now
it’s doing the exact same thing
disable ur intel hd and try again
how and where lol
whatever you use to manage your gpu ¯_(ツ)_/¯
or for the intel thing- you could maybe manually disable it in the hardware list?
win+r -> devmgmt.msc -> enter -> find it and kill it
i'm actually curious now how windows would respond if i do this on a laptop
inb4 forced back on
it will respond the same
well
if you got multiple gpus at least
other than running in 800x600, it seems fine
no-
it's not 800x600, it's dpi settings
yup, all fine now. neat
things are a bit snappier now. never even thought to do that.
probably not worth the electric bill 😉
Perhaps unplug the gpu rub it with a sock and pop that sucker in.
hArD ThOnK
giggles
changed avatar and still lag
for sure vrchat cannot see my gpu it is stone cold atm
is it just me or is Unity a little bit buggy after importing a Project to the new version
Gotta fix some settings and stuff if you mean with worlds
Hi oclac
Eyo
Send me love
Gotta buy my temporary love
And it's expensive so
It cost an... arm and a leg?
Sean why do you live in this discord and yet never found u on vrc :c
Bc I'm not as active in vrchat as I am with discord
Because he is always here and not in vr
Discord VR experience 🤷
Yeah, I get bored of games very easily, so I'll sometimes stop playing any games for a few months then splurge for a week and then back to nothing for a few months
I do

im at a loss.. nothing has worked :/
We run out of things to talk about
then don't talk
@safe marsh oi judge my life
do things 
Then what's the point of hanging out if there is no talking
Yes get drunk and drive around in a car
another odd reason is my gpu fan is at 100% XD wtf
That's what I do irl
We are or driving or drinking 
I don't drink remember
No fun
I'm against myself drinking alcohol, smoking anything and doing any drugs
ok fan thing fixed
Hanging out without talking is also a nice way to hang out
Again, no fun
then again im an introvert so yeah
No point hanging out imo
I'm young
My liver is strong
My lungs are strong
Ezpz
Lol
I'm a party pooper oclac lol, at least that's what my past friends say

You know what I wonder
How did most vrc streamer get well known...
None of them have insanely big outside social media beside the top dogs
And most didn't go viral 🤔

why to that name rice
why to that profile pic wtf man??
<@&397642795457970181> so can we get this guy kicked?
oh i didnt even notice their pic
Discord will explain that I. The future dw
Yep....
Thanks 👏
There we go
Mods 
aham i just noticed your pic to and i request the full pic in my dms
Perk of these announcements
Plenty of staff is online
You ask, and you shall recieve 
yay
It's best girl afterall ❤
@storm estuary I asked for hugs but didn't get them yet 
yes it is
😮
It's not even a girl
wel i give in goodnight i guess. just gotta wait for them to sort out stuff
Do you deserve hugs though?
yea..cant have that can we?
@twin jacinth no 
@umbral reef 
i think it is a girl
Then no hugs >:(
Oh it very much is a girl lol, once you look up some art of her 😛
Lore says too so 
since they say in the manga "im unable to give birth and iw as the only daughter born"
but I'll be nice after I get hugs @twin jacinth
aham, did you read the latest chapter?
It's 2018. Anyone can say they are a girl. Not like it's true.
I did 😄
@umbral reef

did you see that scene?
Night guys 💜😰
Nighty
wut scene exactly?
um its a montage of her with the other girl and then in one montage it shows a bed
oh yea..
i have returned
ye 😢
I think i have serviced Little_Swamp with more than enough pics of best girl lol xD
Welp
He's gonna be happy for a while
you know me oclac, im a huge lover of cute things
just dumped like half my folder of pics, of her, on him 
it was nice
glad you liked it 😊
wat
If you have burg pics, send me
burg?
burger
dno why i would have burger pics 
ah
only thing i have pics of is Made in Abyss stuff, and lood pics
i got memes?

i only had two burg pics
did someone say lood
LOOOD 
nice
too many to count 
aham is good girl
all i got are memes and drawings of me character

your pic is
you actually thought it was a girl sean?
no, i was refering to pic
ah
oh lel
Greetings fellow discord nolifers.
😛
welcome to plsgimmeattention corner
not you xins
oh hi sai
oh hi mark
ok thats a compliment
Someone hold me
-hold-
Couple days without vrchat soon 
id rather commit sudoku
So when i start vrchat its a white screen for about 10 min or more, then it says that im logging in, then its a black screen in 10 min again and then im able to play vrchat... is it suppose to be like this after the update, before the update everything was fine
am i the only one who cant migrate the old project to the new unity eventho i followed all their steps?
@safe marsh weak
!online
There are 5465 users in VRChat currently
@inner cape will not deny .-. i need mah cuddles 
yas yas
i am very weak .w.
why people do !online command when they can just look at the bot on right side lmao
You're one of them pet types that like to latch onto people 
aw
vrchat is not working
it's like opening and closing afterwards
...guilty of charge
Gottem
Heartlexx, thats disgusting and you should be 100% ashamed of yourself, make sure to dm me so we can talk about your sins 
Don't listen to these bullied
Should listen to me instead

and i'm a faithfull cuddler .w.
I don't play the game properly anyway lul

Everything is scuffed
Good details, should be easy to get some help with "everything" lol
Download new unity. Also I found a trick. Download unity hub and you can have multiple versions of unity on one pc.
You don't need unity hub for that
You can install separate Unity versions really easily
I did it when they linked it during the beta.
The unity hub sounds convenient. But yeah, i already had seperate versions without the hub
Yea but unity hub is reeeally user friendly I reccomend it
It's super easy to install a new version
Unity hub?
It has a cloud with all the versions of unity. And they are all just a click away from downloading
I don't get the hype for Unity hub. Installing a separate version of Unity is as easy as downloading and running the installer.
Unity Hub would probably be more work in the short term because that's another thing I would have to install in-between.
Its convenient as it opens unity Projects with the right versions they were saved in, its QOL nothing else
Not necessary
FYI: if you use Oculus Dash, do NOT use a mirror in Oculus Home, your avatar will be “upgraded” and your hands will forever be skin-colored on oculus dash. The cool transparent space hands will be gone forever and your avatar in online oculus games will be ugly too
Yeah but what if I want to open a 5.6 project in 2017 🤔
Id think it would work the same... Just open the 2017 unity and open project
You can just open old projects ? It works fine unless I missed a important part of this convo
I was referring to the earlier statement that Unity hub automatically opens the project in the right Unity version
You don't need 5.6 anymore anyway
If i recall you can... I remember accidentally opening my vrchat project in my beat saber unity
@median basalt it doesnt opem in 5.6, 5.6 is not supported in hub. Only 2017 versions upwards
You can add the install but it doesnt work properly
Im designing an avatar world sketch rn
Didnt you say you havent even uploaded an avatar yet
Can we have a moment of silence for all the lost vrc worlds
I find that a lot of avatar worlds have terrible avatar placement in the sense of its miles for a mirror and then you forget where your avatar is
Yes
Its for the future, its just a sketch
sacrifice a few to save many
I wish the old worlds died tbh, too much dead content in the game
Also ive made half of an avatar ^-^
Yay, now we can still visit worlds that are almost a year old.
Too bad they're 10 FPS and entirely black
You're spreading yourself too thin Ash
Oh no
I am always spreading myself too thin man
I hope the mcdonalds gets reuploaded..
You can't even do avatars yet lol just one thing at a time.
I do like 501 things at once and its bad but thats just how I work, besides its only a sketch so it doesnt take long
Im also making an animated movie, Im also writing an entire script, im also video editing, and I also work about 60 hours a week if youre including school
It is madness..
I like the old worlds
Theyre black
They literslly don't work
They're all just sleep worlds now 🙃
Real life is a sleep world
real life is the true private world 😭
Depends where you arr
Man I wish real life was a private world
Just lock yourself in ya room
Fair point
@covert linden you ok buddy?
@glossy wharf yes just society and people are gross
Are we gross? 
We gross 
Noo online people are good
@glossy wharf your gross
I'm clean 
Im gross ,_,
@raven silo my computer has a non-standard everything, so upgrading can only be done for the entire unit, a cost a bit beyond my means at the moment
@hidden jewel well just put $50 every paycheck
But vr and with that vr games are just an expensive hobby sadly
It's peek techonolgy so stuff has to be up to date
Not every user affected by the DLL requirements has significant income
I use Desktop mode
Same that soon windows 7 will be unsupported and will start causing problems
Your still playing a VR game
to be honest i put more money towards PC over my car lol
I can definitely sympathize with all those who are now unable to play, but for the devs it's a hard balance to strike between supporting older hardware and using newer features to the fullest. For a game that is ostensibly targeted at VR players I can see why they would choose to err closer on the side of using newer features rather than maintaining legacy support.
with half the render requirements and much looser head tracking
@neon flumethey legit can't support the game if the didn't cut it off...
And they are looking for work arounds
I just think an if statement could mean the specs would go to the old levels, just label it 'desktop only'
Desktop only for a vr based game
It's not specs though
it does suck, Ash, yes
Your cpu is unable to do a type of maththat is needed
I dont have vr lol
still update PC if want play best game out there
Oclac, do I need oculus support on a computer that doesn't meet any of the specs for Oculus specifically, as far as I can tell the DLL is Oculus targetted
it no different any other developer
I think it's hooks for the Oculus optimized spacial audio
can crash versus mysterious app closing is preferred, I have maybe 2 to 3 weeks of sanity to maintain, and loosing an app to a feature for hardware I don't own is not as helpful to what little sanity I have left as much as a slight edge case crash risk I was aware I'd be inducing the second I renamed the DLL
Has actually been more stable for me after the update
hanghinghensşohn
Playing around on the bleeding edge of technology, kinda necessitates the use of the newest platforms and abandonment of old ones.
meh, unless someone's gonna donate a tower to me, I'm getting tired of hearing that
If a user is unwilling to change with the tech, the user then is resigning to willful abandonment of the advancement of the technology.
Unable, not unwilling
If a user is unable to advance alongside the tech, that is a consumer issue.
^
This is a pretty specific issue though
NOOOO MY HOUSE IS BLACK
As I was writing this, Unity stole focus and took me pressing spacebar as a "yes". Fucking great
Theres a lot of specific issues that can arise with new technology and updates. Yes.
This isn't "your CPU is from 2001 and is too outdated"
This is a specific VR library for something as mundane as audio spatialization no longer supporting specific CPU's
It's easy enough to say "just upgrade lmao" when you are not even remotely affected by it
You can always shift blame to unity development teams.
it works without the DLL, I have no need for the DLL, and I got fired recently.... it's actually specifically madening that what could be a single line of code as useful as an apendex to me
I blame Oculus, actually
It's their library
I think VRChat would benefit from a system that could simply use an older version or forgo it entirely if you don't have the right CPU
A support ticket would yield the best answer to your problem then.
Sent to Oculus. They respond fairly quickly.
"hi, I don't use your products but your SDK crashes a game I play."
Its still an option to gain information.
tf is going on with vrc
They should be informed that their SDK has conflicts
everytime I try to go to the box then game crashes
You would be helping advance their tech!
does anyone having same problem as I'm having?
hello @lavish flume
mn, I'll try that when I get home, Pink
Good morning, how is everyone doing today.
Good on you. Any kind of info helps spearhead new development in this burgeoning industry.
removing the broken library works for me currently, so I'm able to play, I only even mentioned it in features because hopefully there are few references to the offending library that can be skipped in my type of instance
Murder has always been laggy. Why can't game worlds put some effort into baking their lights lmao
They're always laggy
Well, almost always
There's 100% no excuse not to bake it
Luxerion World qualifies as a game world and is a massive undertaking, has baked lights
Oh, I think "tag:admin_approved" is what is getting maps around the "no advertising" rule.
Oof
@rigid crescent tags you see on the website?
Yeah
Can be those are the special privelegde boy maps
🤔
Baking light made my world go from 13 megs to 35 megs and takes half an hour to bake
They're probably just not checked is all
Well that's what fall under the special boi rules
But I also 100% know the entire admin team saw us bitching so, actually it's probably both
Yeah lightmaps take up game space, it’s worth it though
Baking lights always takes a while if you dont ha e a high end workstation
Id prefer more game space oppose to lag tbh
If you have a good gpu look into bakery
Ive run maps with 400 mbs lag free and ones with 5mb lagging the crap out of me
Is there some way to stop the new Unity saving Standard versions of the materials for the models?
sorry if this has been asked already
I'll bake my world when i'm done building it
bake on oudate cpu take along time
Since under the heirachy of any new model I bring into my unity now it has all the materials locked into standard shader, whereas before they were in the materials folder, seperate
That’s the way to do it, just make sure you have “generate uv lightmaps” checked on everything
I'm intimately aware of that. jazneo
This chat is really making me wqnt cookies
Vrchat should make no lags updates
Intimately
Oh my
Inuendo aside, it takes freaking forever on my ancient potato
That is the grossest inuendo ever just why ;-;
.......
It takes me about 15-20 minutes. Not as bad but still
Pidgey it's kinda obvious you don't know what you're talking about tbh
^
They did, it crashed instantly on my hardware, I never saw lag :P
How have you never seen lag if your pcs worse than mine and i get lag that makes no sense
What was your average fps before?
it was a joke...
Anyone else move from Intel to AMD?
re-read, "I crashed, so I didn't see it lag"
I thought you meant it crashes now but never before
It was a life changer for VR for me. Smoother frames, less input lag, way better multitasking in the background using my desktop in VR
I dont crash much but im at a 11fps average
oof
Honestly once I performed my DLLdectomy, it's been more stable, used to be my audio would turn to garbage with over 6 people, I was at a nearly full instance of The Pug after I got in finally and only had a hard time because people where all talking at once
I got arouns 10
I did until tons of people joined
Not ideal but if I focused I could hold a conversation
Then I couldnt getout
I dont mind lag until audio lags
Im sitting with student council and idk what im suppose to dooo
I think there are just lots of little errors under the hood causing performance issues. As the game gets patched and new content gets uploaded and old content get reuploaded it will get better.
i just moved it to user support
theres a world that i love that is working but i can't create an instance :c it defaults Invite
But oh well gotta give them big boys time to fix the game
btw why is your head tilt exactly the same as mine 
because you copied me D:
Lies 
@safe marsh it may be a private world now
COPYYYYYYCATTTTTT
If it wont go public itss likely
Yeah, it's not a published world so that happens
i wanna cri
My bfs avatars world is gone like the one with his favourite avatar and its very sad
Good thing I hoard/save models in my unity. It's a cluster fu*k but it helps. Helps if I need to fix something too.
VRChat already has a separate “desktop mode” parameter sounds like it would be simple to just not include the dll that makes desktop crash in that mode
If he favorited it before it was private, he can still access the avatar
If he favorited the avatar
Or outright downloaded the avatar
Otherwise, RIP
they may ahve removed the bP
@vocal shard he has it favourited but like he wants to upgrade but it worried about the glitch that deletes everything, and hes gotta make sure tk never accidentally unfavourite it
Then he either upgrades it or not
If he can upgrade it, it means he has access to its files right?
@languid beacon you already know I'm basically doing that to use VRChat :P
Doesn’t that mean he can duplicate the files as a backup?
No
He doesnt have the unity files or anything its favourited from a world that used to be public
Has he contacted the original owner of the world?
I mean automating it @hidden jewel
He doesnt know who made it
I wish I saved the discord when he showed me it so longg ago
I believe I'm done with Vrchat, that 160+ of my custom avatars are broken. Way too much to reupload also with my wifi being fast its acting like it's slow with these server issues, vrchat has been a let down after the update with the safety system.
I was told its how you can show a picture
Do you need 160+ avatars
copy the picture, not it's title
Have you gone into it Ash? It’s a borked link
I got on today only to feel really pissed with how it is want to say hi with people but cant handle how my animations for my avatar are broken as fuck
What Datalink said
Also, 160 avatars to just say hi is bleh
Just stick with a few, not like 300
I cant copy the picture tho
I just reuploaded some of mine that were broken, works fine now
Also what Rokk said
I reuplaoded one. It's fine but I hate the network issues
I built a new pc yesterday cause my other would not open vrc after the update
Then get used to the network issues
#vrchat-pictures I put the pic there of his model
Doki, love your picture! Lol.
Full body is kinda broken yet again
Just sit down with your legs forward, then move your head left/right, your entire body jiggles
too many of my avatars with my custom animations are broken >.>
Complaining ain’t gonna help
So much work for it all to be fuckin broken
I was told last update everything broke so this is better than last time
Doing something about it will
It's for the greater good at least
So much work to be done in Fucking blender
Are mirrors the same or do animations show differently
Just reupload them, I've been reuploading mine for several weeks
They gave us plenty of notice
So honestly why complain when 1. its good in the long run and 2. it could have been 100000000x worse like the first time
Is vr down again?
No
Then get started with reuploading versus bitching about it here
oh well i cant seem to get on the game
They gave plenty of notice and the pick between not having long lasting support for unity and other stuff or keeping all avatars should not be too hard...
it happened yesterday too about the same time
It's cool that we get to keep our old content, but the vast majority of it is broken in some way tbh
Even just regular ass models with Standard shader can get broken, normals are extremely fucked
Coming from a user who doesnt do custom animations from blender >.>
I need to redo most my avatars anyways
@half sequoia why would you need to get back into Blender?
Im just glad my avatars work, but theyre just basic
Literally just load your avatar in Unity 2017 and press upload again
Optimization is nice
Coming from someone who doesn’t complain about every time my toys get broken >.>
That was a lame responce
Its life and it is what it is, I mean yeah sucks to suck its broken but like, for vrchat itself its better and thqt should be more importantt
The fact that you make stuff in Blender doesn't make you special, big boy.
Thanks Captain Obvious
Humanoid animations are unaffected anyway
@half sequoia go take a bath and chill yourself lol
You gonna tell me how I’m rarted since I don’t use Blender 24/7?
Ratated
I've done animations in Blender and they work just fine once I open my project in Unity 2017
Well I can see you're retarded already
Existing content is broken due to internal changes, just reupload
I'd ping the mods but I'm not about to get kicked again like Svelsien
that's gonna be a big yikes from me dawg
Thanks Captain, appreciate the compliment
Excuse me? Cant just call people retarted like lol tf is your problem
May I suggest that you go and take an ice bath
Would be nice if a mod showed up lol
I wish ^

I have screenshots of em anywqy
When people misspell "retarded"
also you don't need to redo anything all you need to do is take 2 seconds the press the upload button
but I guess a big brain can't do that
I'll take the broken animations over being stuck on 5.6 forever
I do that on purpose, rarted is a joke that’s been around for a while
When people use retarded as an insult
Positivity 👏
Extrac- You acting this way is why most people dislike the word 'content creator'
Please act kind and dont insult users even if they say dumb stuff
Literally just reimport SDK and reupload. This takes like a minute per model, or even less if you have multiple in the same project.
Takes me about 5 mins just to upload a model with my pcs speed not too bad
You could make fresh cookies while you wait
You could maybe work on being a kinder person while you wait
and they went silent....
🤔
Ohh look, win by timeout
🤔you can make cookies in 5 mins?
I dont try to be mean whaaat
I dont wait i time travel to the future to view my model before ut finishes uploading
@analog osprey you cann try xD
Not you, the other guy @covert linden
Oh ok
You fine Ash
And a 5 min upload is slow af to me
Yeah of coursee
Win by time out .-. God you're such an degenerate

How long did it take you to look up that insult?
Can you like leave chat if your going to be an bully here?
5 minutess is Nooothing. When im done editing rendering takes like 7 hours sometimes. XD but I di it while sleeping
Takes 7 hours....then u have to reupload 12 times to fix that one thing...then the other one thing
Google chrome be eating his ram looking for insults
What kind of kindergarden bs are u all up to now
@analog osprey 
"an degenerate"
Sorry this is a $1000 smart phone
Editing is different then avatars I dont need to ever reupload or fix unless its a render glitch @dark narwhal
Yikes
For someone who makes fun of spelling mistakes, you sure make grammar mistakes a lot @half sequoia
“AN DEGENERATE” LUL
How did I not notice the an omg thats amazkng
Not my $4,000 pc
ENGLISH DO YOU SPEAK IT
Stop flexing with an iPhone X
Back to elementary for you boy
I’m on my phone too man
Weird flex but ok
You learn this in fourth grade
lol
-sent on my Iphone X
iPhone flexing lmao
Thing is that I care as coming across as someone who isn’t mentally incapacitated
Here's the thing... Most people here make things for the game. Be it in blender or unity.. a lot of us were affected, but its for the betterment of the game in the long run. There really isn't much point in complaining about it when you're not the only one affected here. Take a minute to calm down and do what you must
If your pc is 4k it shouldnt be hard to upload bro @half sequoia
You know- Mocking him doesnt help this chat 
But can it run crysis 3
Lol - sent on my Samsung Galaxy S9+
OCLAAAC
Is that the real Oclac?
Yes
No
.-. Apple is a shit product
Lol - sent on my overheating Samdong phone
Sigh - sent from my Galaxy Note
Who wants my iPhone 6s
Whaaat samsung phones donr overheat wyd @vocal shard
Remember the older note?
🤔says apple is bad yet has one
I use samsung s7 and My phones all goooood
It sits in car forever
Iphone in 2018, its like using skype in 2018. Omegalul
What is happening - sent from my toaster
They used to, major charging circuit flaw in the Note 7
Ok it used to but not a badd as the ipod that would cook itself
Literally who buys apple products anyway
I agree With the deleted statement
I’m on an iPhone 7
You pay for the fancy apple logo 
my favourite is when people think macs are the best for gamigg
used iPhones as car breaks
Akwardly releases a loud, yet highpitched fart from their rear for no apparent reason.
I got it in red, I wanted to support charity as well
Clearly Ipad is best for gaming
im getting salty as this OSC stuff is refusing to work 😠
Still love my PC ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ew iPad
I love my laptop despite the fact its i3 trash
The only thing good from Apple in my opinion is their laptops that's it
Rip my avatars this update ruined them 😥
😦
Eww, a Samsung degenerate
Oof
reupload them my dude
JAMIEEE
My main avatar is fine
Nah the unity broke the dances and some of the dynamic bones
yeah just reupload
So I have to re do the scripts
you need the 2017 version of dynamic bones
Spending more time reuploading these avatars again lovely >.>
you just need to import that and it'll already be filled out with your settings
Well- Not if you import it right into the new unity
Yeah I have it in still working on the fixing for the bat and hair
The 2017 dynamic bones?
yeah the unity 2017 version of dynamic bones
When people don't buy Dynamic Bones 
Uh, I sure hope mine still works
OOH I FOUND PPG MODELSSSSS
Oohh
just import your totally legal copy that you got off the unity store
I just reuploaded a ton of avatars but I didn't check to see if I had to reimport dynamic bone.
Might want to
I got a legal copy of dynamic bone and muscle animation editor
I kept getting people asking me "yo can u send me package plsss"
👌
From this discord
Am too broke to buy either
I just linked them to the store page
wtf what do you mean i have to buy a paid asset
Lol
Legit copy 👌
Hey rokk 👀 Dm me the stuff i dont use :^)
To legit to quit
Rip my friend he just got put on a KOS list for world crashing
Perhaps it's only avatars with animations that are broken. All mine are fine-- Because they have no animations.
KOS list?
well he deserves it 
Yep
Kick on sight
thats a thing?
Yea it’s a thing
KOS means kill on sight
I'm going to ask money for my custom made model objects, & avatars. For example I've made a Excision Cyborg T- Rex Helmet for my avatars
@vocal shard yeah, rotation animations or crunch compression are broken
No it’s mainly kill on sight
KOS is a list used by hackers/crashers... e-e
i mean, that can be sooo abused
You can’t really kill someone in vrc
By that we crash or blue screen
oh so its not a VRChat list?
And that's one more reason why you don't bother with crashers or anything
For any reason
they crash on sight
Ingame reports don't really do anything unfortunately
I block anyone who looks like a crasher. My computer is such a potato that a blue screen can break my whole PC.
I've reported a guy several weeks ago for having a crash avatar, he's still active to this day
Don't bother with reporting people I guess
i will say since VRChat is now on the Oculus store, no more SteamVR overlay lag issues
What does a crasher look like? 🤔
Crashers are often easy to recognize
Obnoxious shaders, especially if they render over everything. That's a dead giveaway.
Sadly, crashers usually have those glowing/flashy weapons and stuff on them.
purple snapback
Excessive rimlight or flashy shaders and weapons
Exactly what Rokk said.
Why sadly
Rainbow shaders XD
lesson learned, dont run two VRhome programs at once
They almost always pull out some "global audio" BS too
Jawbones is the only one I know who looks like that but is not a crasher
is polywave still ok?
Tasteless glowing shaders and outlines that would look super cool to a 13 year old is usually a good sign of the crasher in your lobby
polywave is not a crasher convention but still looks pretty bad, especially on people who put it on their entire clothes, hair, tails and etc
imo
Basically, if any part of someone's avatar renders over walls
Or renders over your hand when you put your hand in front of you
Just hide their avatar or block them entirely
yep ^
mhmm, i just use it as an acent thing for an outfit like a belt or shoe detail
Even if they're not crashers, they should have the common decency to not render over everything else
True
I actively seek out and block people if a permanent-on part of their model renders over everything else
I can tolerate zoom shaders or screenspace that's on temporarily though
I have heard that if you put your hand into a mirror a reflection will come out
@analog osprey that's true for models uploaded with 5.6
Ok
For some reason, those models violate everything I thought I knew about cameras.
I have a camera that doesn't draw anything closer than 1 meter. It still draws old models, just not updated ones.
Why are the mirrors so black :/
crasher checklist
glowing snapback ✅ glowing weapon/gun ✅ the box ✅
Confirmed, mirrors are another dimension
Lol
My Sans Ness is even better now
They should also fix where you can see your custom face animations in the mirror
VRPill's pfp looks funny
It should be
Mirrors are simply a portal to the afterlife. Now if you can step into my office through the mirror...
Honestly, those colorful, flashing, epilepsy inducing avatars are garbage tier. Looks like someone slapped random textures on and then added a moving color shaders. Perhaps they're color blind or just tasteless.
I like that you can pat yourself on the head now
I think it has to be a 5.6 mirror as well
Lonely headpats
What?
You need to hand over $20 before any of us step into your office
I WANNA PAT MY OWN HEAD
@opaque hawk nope, any mirror works
What if I do $21?
I'd headpat myself but I ain't got arms.
The pug is definitely up to date and we tested it extensively there
Lol ok
you've gotta make giant rigged arms behind you and link the joints to your actual arms so you can give yourself headpats 👍
Same. I don’t got a vr headset
Imo... That's a new feature for mirror simulator
the new mirror should be made without collissions but making it so that when your view is at the mirrors line it rotates teh veiw 180°
Dan- Do i understand the docs.vrchat wrong or am i supposed to get a menu for VRC_OscButtonIn at the "On button ON" for the drop down menu 
If you can't headpat yourself. Nuzzle your own head through the mirror
I have had vrc for a year and still no vr headset
@copper gulch Now I will go into a pug and nuzzle mirrors.
That is how the Piggu do.
Started as a desktop user litterally one day later after I had played the game for the first time when seats on avatars were a thing I got the vive the day after
@vocal shard or receive headpats from me. That is how this Demon is friendly and stuff
No you cause I'm on break at work xP
Chairs on avatars was fun
Ive been playing for like 6 months, but im in no rush for vr since theres a lot ive gotta pay for but one day... one day I can pet lolis
Over 2k hours on spent on this game lmao
Chairs... 
Life well spent
Still have models when chairs were allowed on avatars
Same
Its not a bug, its a feature
I still have my car & helicopter models when seats were a thing
I had a chair of doom
I just wanna hold a loliiiiii
Most of my avatars are like 2ft tall
I have a large variety from tall to short majority of them are short
Welp, back to IT Tech work
I prefer short avatars but not lolis, because I like reaching stuff
But I wanna hug a loli..
i like little girls too o.O
when can we pick up smaller avatars ;-;
Just get long arms
Lol, i remember i had one sit in my arms, but you couldn't boot them off. I eventually tried to get them to leave but they refused.... So i disabled the chair and left them stuck in the air...
I got no idea what i did diffrent but now it works 
Shit i love unity
I think I'll end up stabbing people who try to pick me up
I go around as Hoppou avatars and small ones, but mute my mic and just wave my arms from side to side
Or shooting them
AWEEE I WANNA HOLD LOLIS FOREVER
Woah there
lol
lines like that Ash just come off rather creepy >.>;;;;;;;; no offense
Ash, the FBI would like to know your location
Yeah no I blocked the underage ones
Well its true I doooo
well what ever floats your boat 😄
Yup

Its ok iim not 18 yet
and neither are they, os its all good
wat
yeah see
I’m not 18 either

All I wanna do th o is protect them forever nothing weird
im only 13 >.>
imagine actually blocking underaged people 
YALL NEED JESUS
oh god call the 3 letter agency
Yuh, on it Zhooby
But my bf wont let me be a loli since hes 20and im 17 hes like No I dont wanna be called a perv
Ash, ASH WTD
yeah, you would be blocking 2/3 people you meet on VRChat
It makes me sad since I wanna be a loli
imagine being that insecure
TMI my friends
I block a good amount of underage children
This OSC shit is making me feel retarded man 
The second i think stuff is fine nothing works
And im unable to track whats wrong
Depending on how you act
I block a fuckton of mic spammers
If its my unity or connection or ports
insecure?
@vocal shard BRO WYM
Not insecure no, more like I'm old and certain kids are annoying
I sound older than i am
Im 18 in a month but ive got a super high voice and it makes me sad since people are like ewww gtfo kid
So? Certain people are annoying, not always an age thing LOL
where can i find the post about changing unity versions again?
so is it true that when you block someone, they can still see you?
No
#announcements @fresh merlin
No they cant
I've met more annoying adults in this game than kids, I can say that for sure
Sometimes the game bugs out and they can, otherwise no.
Is that "fullbody avatar world" with the incredibly laggy and very bad looking cloth hair still active?
All the full body thots seemed to gravitate to those avatars like no other
tbh I find anyone on vrc who comes on and drinks annoying
Oof, I had hoped the performance limits would have eradicated them
Meeting me in game I'm generally quiet unless spoken to
your avg loli is a man child
Yeah, that sucks. Report system is not looked at so that's out too
Ew loli's lmao
I wish that world would just die
just saying, we all know its true
@rigid crescent careful not to generalize. there are nice and fun drunks too
I'm a Spartan in vrc
back when i was a known user i got crashed by a trusted user and i was like how is he more trustworthy than me :c
Subcom got rejected and has now resorted to giving out launch links to their world lmao
What part of what I said generalized? It was the opposite, infact.
Halo isnt dead
@median basalt Just means the world will slowly die off as new users or peeps who dont care enough will just start using another world
lemme clairify, all MUTE lolis are manchildren
Good job slow mode
hard to hide that deep voice
No it doesn't, they onyl go to the world for the avatar
so why does the world looking a certain way matter?
Oh, you mean for Subcom?
It’s not hard to hide their voice, it doesn’t sound good, but yea
Better the world looks more likely people will go
All Halo Spartan's are and have been assumed to be military service which is true
G.I.R.L = Guy In Real Life
Lol
They were supposed to release an optimized map, so they'll probably just do that.
so am i the only one who really dislikes when people change their voice to a cartoon style anime?
tmw most of your mute friends are actually girls
I know people who go around in groups of Spartans
They cool
confimred girls? cause online everyone is a girl lol
People love it when I do the Arnold Schwarzenegger impression with the Terminator avatar lmao
No i mean we talk in voice chat in discord, but they don't talk in game
eh, so im alone with the annoying voice changers?
Voice changers are just bad and a dead giveaway
look, if you ahve to ask "Am I the only one...." the answer, 100% of the time, is no
you aren't the only one. other humans who share your opinion exist lol
pffft, fair enough
I dont even use voicemod anymore paid what $15 for the full version?
im just a blond fox 😛
Ewww
Voice changers are super easy to spot
A furry
I can't even understand people who use even the slightest amount of voice changer
a furry? where?
You @delicate perch
@vocal shard NoSir. Not a furry.
You’re a fox tho
I get mixed responses without a voice changer lol. Some people guess right some wrong. You can't always get it right xD
correct
And a furry
nope
Some like my brother use it to mask his voice a bit, but not to sound like a girl
Maxwell was an old friend of mine from SL.
He's a good boi.
wait, WUT?
Used to steal your clothes. XD
The only two people catagorys I cant stand on vrchat are 13 year olds (especially if they make avatars), and people who literally come on to drink
well alot did that, still do >.>
I used voice mod a bit when they gave us the option to custom make voices. I've got 1 that's sounds dragon related & another like Transformers
It was funny playing keep away with ya and my ex.
@covert linden What's wrong with people who drink on here? Some people who come around are actually really chill
Well good to know im unity retarded and not tech retarded 
Any world boy want to help me for a few seconds?
@carmine nebula Ive got ptsd related to it
ohkay, now im curious, who you are?





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