#vrchat-general-2
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On steam there is an updated for vr chat not sure if this will change anything
The game is a lot more optimized now.
now i can login
Everyone look at steam for vr chat update, I'm updating now to see if it fixes the issue
Im also glad the turning is a lot smoother now
so like, I switched to VRChat on desktop mode and now the game endlessly sends me into loading screens... anyone know what is going on or a fix. On my like 18th restart
it's being investigated
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is anyone having the same problem like clicking play for vrchat and it says running then in a second the running word is gone?
The game always used more cores tho ๐
game used 2 of my 16 threads before the update
And apparently If you run vrc through Oculus store it runs better than steam vr
Thats because you dont need to run SteamVr what aint optimized for oculus
also steam vr is trash
I don't want to use the Oculus version
@vocal shard nice! Im going to check that out
Sure I'd play it once to support VRChat and all but I can't use the Playspace Mover through it
Allowes for loads of dope stuff-
If you ever need more trackers or ect you need to use it
Or anything that I usually use. Also Rokk pointed out Oculus Dash doesn't work
My loading screen is blank when I log into vrchat
^
Its just that and nothing else
vrchat is broke right now
Oh that make sense lol
what Cpu do you have
oh damn you right. I didnt even think about plkayspace mover
Me?
well everyone who cant play
the cpu needs AVX else it wont work so
It literally just started
just confirming 2017.4.15f1 is the new unity version yeah?
@vocal shard yes
It was fine for the 100+ hours before
zzzz vrchat is broken
Welcome to le club
Welp- Tried loggin in yet with a direct world link instead of spawning in your home world? You can join worlds instantly from the website
We cant fix broken here- We can only fix things if you explain it
yea let me explain it:
I switched worlds and i got stuck on the loading screen
I restarted and i was still stuck on loading screen
^
seems to be a server thing, it's being looked into
ok why is it taking two million years to upload a model now
Thanks fam @weary bison
like the thing keeps hanging
probably related
ahh i see and here i thought it was me
somethings going on with vrchat to the point i can't join ppl
hope to see it fix soon
think its vrchat wide
Wait- How long are tuppers work hours
why you keep breaking game devs
ty for the up-dates @covert chasm
stop breaking game
Fairly sure he is getting them 8+ hours o work now
โค
lol
D:
lol
lol
omg, is there a performance improvement with the oculus app?
Just turn on and off the server
Im sure that will fix it :4head:
Also, can i post links in chat? Im not sure if I can or not
we still love you @covert chasm
yeah man dont you know theres an option called no break mode
probably cloudflare
@upper fox No guarantees, but personally I had pretty large improvements in FPS on the Oculus version

@weary bison please i beg you no

@placid umbra it would seem likely, considering steamvr has terrible default supersampling settings
there was some noticeable frame rate rises in this update
however my question is when crouching idle animations will get fixed
as soon as the general populace can figure out what "fixing crouching" means
we fixed it back and forth like 4 times
each time we fixed it, one half or the other said "this is broken"

ok let me explain it cause i think i know exactly whats going on
Maybe they wanted the Russian squat
Just fully break it- Then everyone can complain and its atleast consistent
i think somehow the standing idle animation and the crouching idle animation fused or hybird in some way. for an example i have a flying animation for the standing idle animation right?
Hmm.. if the crouch animation cannot be edited.. why can the prone animation?
however for some reason it fused into the crouching idle animation no matter how you try to change it. so when i crouch the avatar is still flying but lower and the legs break too
what does this mean? http://puu.sh/Cglp3/da561fe824.png
looks like you're building lighting
light baking process
I SURVIVED THE THANOS SNAP
because of this i believe that you guys accidentally fused the crouch and standing idle animations in someway @covert chasm
yay they fixed it
fairly sure its been a thing for ages Pious
would be smart to hop onto the canny.io and look for the post there about it (and else make one as i have heard peeps complain about it before...)
they've mentioned they wanna take another pass at crouching animations and overrides
I need some help, imported the new SDK into the newer unity we're using now, but its not showing up?
i mostly complain about it cause it makes my avatar break itself with its legs when crouching
the max fps is 90 right?
Yes
@vocal shard tupper is not even a vrc dev why ping him 
im hoping my theory is right and it helps them figure out the problem with said animation.
this new update is amazing, i used to get 45 now i get 90 on constant
cause he said they fixed it 4 times
Can anyone help?
@cold talon Look up- Our community manager boy broke the servers.
Its 100% him causing these problems :^)
He just says what the other devs tell him to
i know who broke the game
I actually pretty much say whatever the hell I want to tbh
I'm given a lot of freedom
it was the sprite cranberry dude
What of the others?
Yeah that came out wrong, mean to say that you get the info about bug fixes from the devs
Engrish is hard 
Should say, because people where angry about the update the server got mad and it throwing a fit.
The devs are trying hard to comfort the server again with blankets and headpats ๐
I played smash with him yesterday and he hated it
Well, it's creaky and cheap, and honestly I should have just thrown my food in there on a plate.
Oof..
I still only play melee.
Get better netcode
Smash will be good again one day, I'm sure.
HEY TUPPER
Cant even hack the dam console anymore ๐
Fixing hardware problems with software- Just nintendo things
Just overclock your connection 
Should try out factorio then my dude
I like you.
oh
ohh, i thought you wanted to 1v1
and factorio
..Old-school style games
I would have brought out Marth 
Cant forget cracktorio
I like runescape
did the switch get locked down with a system on chip design?
@covert chasm 
No mention for CnC: RA2?
Ofc, GameCube controllers have the best input consistency/lowest lag out of all the controllers for Ultimate
No pinging mods/admins 
So if you wanted a good experience, then go with the GameCube ones
Can we ping them bahka's tho ๐ ?
And what did i say 
I think the Oculus store release is the momentum that VRChat needs, might even get a new meme for new year. Now, just need to fix the connection problems
That's because GC controllers are just controllers instead of handheld memes.
not sure if a new meme is what's needed
No as you can see I'm truly a mod too 
@cold talon He's currently here chatting so it's fine.. It's pinging randomly that isn't.
Another god damn DDOS?
Ow oki- GL bahka :)^
too many players from oculus release?

more knuckles when
!online
There are 4058 users in VRChat currently
No.
server issues could be anything tbh
@upper fox highly unlikely
Nah- The server are unhappy with all the angry peeps
The devs are trying to comfort it by giving it a blanket and headpats so just give it a few minutes
@cold talon if you dont like pings click the Leave server button 
What is this sorcery https://i.imgur.com/qWEODxm.png
Trust me- I do tech support/engineering stuff for school/work
Grand conspiracy theory: 95% of DDOS attacks on services are actually carried out by the Amazon Botnet in an attempt to get businesses to switch over to their own hosting solutions with DDOS protection.
Oh about the vrcbot, there needs to be an !offline command
Again happen
Nani?
I can't play game
I see what the announcement means now
Oof.. could be another network issue, Pyuru.
Game starts for a second, says im playing, closes itself
yep, some kind of server-side problem
Well- Announcements dont get made for fun...
"VRChat Oculus Comfort Rating: Intense" Gee, I wonder why
@upper fox Intense
i just fucking god home to update and get more server issues, these guys need to try the off and on thing..
INTENSE
Inb4 Oof ddos are actually somone using the endpoints wrong by accident 
be fun to try some percussive fixing
Inb4 Oof ddos are actually somone using the endpoints ~~wrong by accident :LUL:
~~
Fixed it for ya bahka :^)
maybe someone somewhere in the world tripped on a wire
you know, actually this morning I did
"Recommended Graphics Card: GTX 970 or higher" < Uhhh, I hope this is true
probably
still able to update my content, that's what's important to me right now lol
Umm, shouldn't we go to random chat?
lol
this is all about vrchat
ummmm
there^
shouldn't we be just talking like normal people instead of telling others what to do unless you have authority over us which you clearly don't
Well known when ruuubick comes
tfw my gpu has less than 3/4 the performance of the 970
tfw vr never
calm down shhhhh
nah it's cool for now
Sorry.. just getting a little tense because of my commute
went off-topic but it's basically back on
We got noe to watch over us and yeet us if we go off topic 
dw, admins are busy
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ allright
nOEEEEEE ๐
christmas knuckles ๐
christmas sanics

shit
Nty
i should not have said that
Putting peeps into boxes and claiming they are your present 
Christmas Shits
I'll go with kindbots idea
And thus these words started the second knukles wave
Marking the end of the world as we know it
I regret asking the question
I always thought it'd be cool to see someone mod a virtual boy to accept downscaled HDMI input and use it for VRChat
tape a puck to it ๐
make me a server model imma be roleplaying vrchat servers
someone remind me, we only need to detach id's for avatars not worlds?
Isnt the only way we can get stuff from outside working within the game with OSC/Midi?
do we even need to detach at all anymore? 2017 is the main version now, no need to worry about keeping 5.6 avatar versions
unless it causes problems
Just get the AVGN to do that Noe
Just update them incase they present an issue.

but im asking do we gotta detach worlds too @weary bison
nope
okay
worlds are even better, it keeps the 5.6 version (for now) whilst also having a version for 2017
Am I so tired that I can't see the bug channel???
It' bug channel no more
@versed hound there no bug channel just use canny
Goddamn commutes!
So they removed it so I can't cry about whats fucked up...
The bug report channel was never for bug reporting anyway- It was always bug support
go to #user-support-old if you're unsure whether or not it's a bug, otherwise slap it on the canny
I don't have a can opener...
@versed hound Well, during the DDoS attack, people flocked to the bug report channel, saying the same problem over and over again.
right now is AXV problem
Doesnt this chat always repeat itself?
Too many infact, that the guys here got tired of it and close it
Wait it was a DDoS?
ElireToday at 6:09 AM
I doubt it would have a gyroscope, though.
And accelerometer
Duct tape a phone to it, use the phone's gyroscope and accelerometer. Use the virtual boy for visuals. Use some sony earphones from the early 90s that occasionally give you small shocks for audio. You're good to go.
no, this chat never repeats itself
Only history repeats itself
Well, I could tell the problems to you and you tell me if its a common thing or only I'm getting fucked over...
Vrchat wont open. been happen most time lol
Use the site to goto certain worlds then
there are so much better things to do anyways, like walking on broken glass
or rolling around in a nest of snakes
the anwser is vrchat dont support non AXV CPU anymore
I can't really say anything rn...
repeating aint a bad thing dw
My backlight died and I can't see shit...
have you considered installing lights in your eyes?
To Askopar: 2:16 PM
Unless there are modifications to the HMD to fit in and utilize USB ports, I doubt it will function together.
mean need buy new screen
@queen mango i didn't say it'd be EASY...
Not possible cus my vision is shit...
but anyone with a smartphone has the sensors
feelsbadman
just need to go through some Fun to get it to work together
and it will work awfully
but it will work
I will come back if I will be able to see my keys again...
I could do that... if I was a computer engineer
Unfortunately, I only study accounting
Any electrical engineer should also be able to do most of that
I don't how true this is so correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard people are getting hacked in public worlds
The software part might be hard but eh
@native moat Unless you hear it from the devs its a rumor and the people spreading it as facts should be shamed
my internet is working again
but vrchat itself is having issues now
fun!
wdym 'hacked'
haven't heard reports of anything like that
one day i'll escape this loading loop
...but i'd rather it be today so time to just keep restarting until something different happens
whats the diference between http://puu.sh/Cgme2/33d85900d3.png
Not sure if you should give the id out ๐
I think others cna upload over the world then
no, you need to be the owner to upload over it.
yeah world invite URLs have the ID too
Really? Ow neat
anyone can make an instance with the ID though
Ow yea-- Maybe i should just go to bed again 
"oh", not "ow"
Nah- I meant Ow 
loli: the thing without the VRC infront is what is used now, the other one you can just remove.
oh, ok thank you!
okay uhm. a question. okay so uhh... i have a friend, that thinks shes getting a vr headset on the 25th of december, so she wanted me to do about like, idk 9 models or avatars for her with a hand gesture and the visemememes, eyetracking and such right? well i already have 4 done and when tupper said "update" that means probably a updated vrchat sdk. and so i was wondering. if my vrchat sdk still works i still dont have to update right?im kinda scared im going to have to go through the whole "rigging as humanoid" thing again or doing all of the visememes face thing again in unity
so i dont have to update my vrchat sdk if a new one does come out right? or will i have to still update it. because i hate having to do that
Just make a copy of it and open it in the new unity
all the model progress though , i wont lose it will i
there's a guide to do it in the announcements i think
or will i have to go through the rigging, and the visememes again
tupperware pls fix server i can't join my friends
if i were too update
make a backup of the project before you update and you'll be fine even if something goes wrong
Fine, Fine I suppose , just hang on a minute. oh and also noe. im sorry if i ever annoyed you once before
that was because trolls, like about that year ago they try their best just to be a pest u know ๐
but yeah, i am going to be right back and make a backup
Has anyone been able to get back into vrchat?
nope
The loading screen pops up for me for a few seconds then I'm just standing in blue space
i could earlier but not now
f
just a blank canvas
sometimes i get to my homeworld, mostly stuck in the blue space when you start
wait, nvm, I just got in
I got into my home
alright a backup has been made
it's back!
uggggh i want to test out my model
oh it is
okay i can tell by the chat updating to the newest version might be a sign of a red flag
sorry i can be suspicious sometimes
thing is
There has been a beta for this for like a month
Whats happening right now are server problems- NOT game problems
oof. well fml then. i suppose i have no choice but too update
since when did vrchat home have target practice?
about a few months ago i believe
im gonna try the mmd world
just been
trying to join a private world for a while now
itll work eventually it did before
also, can someone please explain to me what the heck the "youve been gnomed" is about. i kept hearing about it but i dont understand it
Its a joke/meme
well i had seen the video and i dont get how its suppose to be funny. is it a rick roll 2.0?
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/youve-been-gnomed and a old one even
But this is #general-media so lets keep on topic or move chat
hahaha
yeah your right. anyway im mainly here just to ask if updating to the latest vrchat sdk is a good idea or if i will lose my progress
has someone made an avatar of that?
yeah.. they have
you can always update to the latest sdk without losing anything
If you do i right atleast
well i remember i had to do that about a year ago and well i guess i either messed up on something and i had to do everything again
it was when i was doing my first ever sans model (which didnt have eyetracking at the time
VRC now has the hardest Loading Screen Boss.
mmd stage lighting is completely broken
guys the vrc sdk 5.6 version is still on the website?
i just downloaded latest and got a 5.6 one ?
and that bummed me out so bad. i couldnt upload it and i had to start over. well that was about a year ago anyway but like the "upload a avatar" thing completely disappeared
ugh my vrchat keeps on blackscreening on startup...
So why has VRCHAT shot them selves in the foot by removing mic swapping ? Like why ? Please someone enlighten me if I am missing something here.
@civic plume can be your broweser stored the old link and stuff
is because when i do alot of work on something sometimes i dont have the patience just to redo it all and i kinda lose my patience really quickly. and so im kinda scared i might mess up something . thats why im making a backup
Because they hate people with mics and it is totally not a bug they want to fix asap
I got past the login after 45mins, now my problem is loading screen limbo.
press okay, goes black for a sec, back to press okay with fully loaded progress lol
and knowing me i would have the worse luck sometimes ๐
.. thats also true with me in life...
tone: unity has zero to no mic swapping support, they'll have to write their own thing (again) if you want to swap mics, disable the active mic in windows after selecting a new standard mic.

ok resetted the page and nothing hapens
So VRC is non-functional for everyone else, right?
see. and i am not trying to diss or roast my friend but. she thinks shes getting a vr headset for christmas but what she doesnt realize is that. if she DOES get it for christmas she doesnt have the computer for it AS she has a laptop not a desktop!
yess @ornate tree
im tempted to ping tupper, i need to somehow let website staff know this where do i post?
my favorite worlds are broken
@ornate tree oh hi we meet again ๐ friend
Like I legit loaded into the game , during this "Outage" And , had to close the game cause someone thought they were bright and removed the fucking mic swapping , now I have to struggle to get back into the game , smooth move Devs. Now I must go drag my balls across concrete and lick windows cause that'll solve all the issues that yall break or remove..
monty: i just downloaded the 2017 sdk from the website, dunno what you're on about.
They can also just /not/ update things anymoer
Maybe that can be fun
The game is free. Go play something else for a change.
hm
Basically im like "dragonknightlily listen, u have a laptop.. not a desktop you cant change ur graphics card on a laptop to be vr computer you have to have a desktop." but she doesnt understand no matter how many times i tell her
I am not worried about the logging in issues , that's common , it's the removing a perfectly fine feature ..
im just saying it because its the truth
Dude, they didn't remove that feature. It is a bug.
Maybe you could pay attention to the changelog?
They said it is a known issue
Mhmm ... right.
Um... Do I need to prove myself?
You legit got explained why its not happening ona technical level...
Unless you want to wait for ages for this update to happen (way after christmas) these things happen
And even then the odds of things breaking is big
and to be honest i do kinda feel bad for my friend that shes stubborn not willing to listen when i told her that she simply doesnt have the computer to be vr compatible for the vr headset shes getting for christmas..
but i rather not go that low as to hurt her feelings u know
Alright, I'll say this again for the last time, the game is free. So you aren't entitled to any sort of a working game what so ever. It's early access still.
People dont like hearing stuff they dont want or agree with Miku
Causes loads of problems that can be prevented like that
I'm 100% positive the VrChat devs are hard at work trying to sort this out.
Lol, that reasoning "game is free" is so old and nonsense. Stop using it
VRChat owned by Bethesda :3 #Somebugs , I do appreciate you clarify this @ornate tree
Oh... you're one of those people.
and so i want to make sure, that if she does, like along with the vr headset get a decent desktop with the needed graphics card that I have the avatars already done so i dont dissapoint her. so thats why i want to know that if i were to update it wont mess anything up
I see. I'll go, you're not worth my time, good sir.
Have a good night, everyone. Good luck, Devs โค - Bronx
@feral ginkgo Its not an excuse but unlike a payed game you cant expect to get a perfect product like most do
well i mean even for a game payed or not payed they always have bugs
Of course I understand it and I won't be whinging at devs for a bug but still
and with that always come with bug fixes right? but its not a instantenous thing
its not like you can snap your fingers and for those bugs to be fixed just like that
While we didn't pay for it we actively helped and still help create it and shape it, indirectly we want Some thing from it: enjoyment
Reporting it properly if its not known and asking for help about it is the one way to go
Gets it solved and odds are there is a temporary workaround
I know and I understand
So it's valid to expect
well thats why you always tell the developer if something goes wrong and a bug happens
In my opinion at least, but obviously in professional manner and not by shouting
I mean I am pretty sure they have a email right?
it's reasonable to be upset when a feature you like stops working
Well yeah but didnt the developer or tupper just say they are working on it currently?
Someone should get the devs the infinity stones, no more bugs
You mean chairs
the mic thing is being worked on, it's been bothering a lot of people
Some 'content creators' are extremely entitled though
I also have edited my own stuff and talk with peeps who do stuff from scratch
But unlike some streamers they dont go full mental breakdown once something gets removed...
They just get sad/grumpy about it. Make a report or find a way around it and thats it
well Bahka see thing is , if the infinity stones even exists
It's not the matter of being upset. It's draining when you realize all your work goes down the drain if something's seriously broken

I can't live another day not seeing my Miko friends. I'm about to have an anxiety attack.
well Gamer_Face I face that problem alot where i put alot of work into something and it falls down and so I know how exactly you feel . but as i learned from many years in life, my 22 years on this earth that i realize patience is everything even if you have to rework everything
Some things have to be disabled or removed for the game to be safe or be able to have long lasting support...
There is no way around that even if the devs wanted to...
Its legit the option of ripping stuff out and slowly replacing it again or the game being unplayable at a certant point and being too deep into it for an upgrade ๐
Well if people can't swallow the fact that they have to redo some things for them to work with new version.. too bad. They were informed long before change
well that is true. but always have faith. because sometimes, the developers might like find a fix or something or they realize something and they find a way to fix everything. and they try the new idea they have. and it may or may not work
That also- It could also have been like last unity upgrade...
Everyone had to reupload everything
It was a hard step for VRC devs to migrate so many people and be so reliant on people
They jumped in too early. Getting rid of joint bones and rigid bodies couldve been avoided
im pretty sure im going to be terrified on how my models are gonna be now that i think about it
They don't listen.. It's whatever tbh
Game is broken again
as once a friend told me "the future goes on. and times change. you know. sometimes is just best to get with the times and realize the good times you may have. and the bad times you may have. you can remember those good memories but always make new ones and not to hold onto the paste. its always good to stay in touch."
Noe, Speaking about features, is there any info on the web panels? It was said there are plans to add another version that won't be exploitable, but no info since, which is quite sad as my arcade world is completely broken now :^(
Really hope they manage to add something similar back
Philly read the announcement
I am sorry if I became way too philosophical there.
Fairly sure they didnt work on that really bahka... This update was first for all
not in active development at the moment as far as I know
Oh ok : / I'll wait, just don't want them to be forgotten
Basically in a nutshell what im trying to say is patience. even if something does get fixed and something else breaks. its fine. you just tell the man "hey my thing is broken and this is whats wrong with it. can you fix it?" and the person helps fix it but they tell you its going to take time. sorry just a example
I'm looking to go about getting a handle on a VRChat moderation team member. A friend of mine appears to have been wrongfully banned, and then when trying to appeal it had his banned doubled in length?
They can email moderation@vrchat.com and make sure its a proper email that provides proper information
Sometimes people forget that VRChat is a Virtual Reality game. Bugs and crashes are unpredictable as it is entirely new to the gaming community.
I think people are too adjusted to high budget projects, if they're unhappy with something as little as assets having to be adjusted
It's hard to get a project to be modular enough from day 1 to have no issues going forward with a budget from a publisher, nevermind without
Especially if you rely on something out-of-house like Unity ๐ค
they won't be forgotten, it was heartbreaking for some of the devs to see so many cool worlds stop functioning
Exactly oclac your point cased in stone.
your right
well you see thing is worlds can always be rebuilt. or updated. i mean sure maybe its time to let go of some things sometimes but . people always find a way to build back up of what they once had but was ruined
They already have, that was the appeal attempt, and, it is like I previously posted. :o
I know most of the stuff i say ๐
I work in a field close to VRC so loads of things are the same
And i pretty much live in this chat
As long as we get js support for them the wait will be justified 
Itโs just a simple reupload then move on
Think of it this way. i am a little kid that has built a huge lego tower and someone topples it over. maybe a little bit of it remains but i am that kid that basically rebuilds on what is left
vrchat purge soon?
I'm sure they'll figure it out
can confirm, oclac lives here
@lament dragon well there is no other way to get official moderation support or contact so...
Darn shame. Maybe i'll try my luck then, thanks @umbral reef
can we have mic input switching back?
There are other games to enjoy anyways. If your computer is good enough for VRC in VR that is. I can't say the same for others on desktop
appeal again, be as descriptive as possible
but even if things do go downhill and alot of worlds and avatars do break and a few features. that doesnt mean we need to go over board and everything go crazy all of a sudden. all im saying is we all need to chill. calm before the storm. i hope you understand.
look okay im sorry if you think my explanations are all over the place and your not getting what im trying to say. i am not very good at explaining things but I am trying to get a few points across. all in which, when you sum it up all in one word, is patience.
no, be impatient and stress urself
That's what software development is like in the modern world. Things move (a little too) fast
but redfrag if you stress yourself and be impatient that might only make things worse and may make things break even more. and probably even more likely of a chance of getting a heart attack
@weary bison Do you know when?
trust me I know because I almost did have a heart attack once
nop
please dont take my retarded advice literally
True story by the way.
if things dont break and you dont get into trouble for doing things too fast your doing somethign wrong within the tech world
<.<
People were informed about the change long before it happened, long enough to be ready for when the patch hits, absolutely no reason to be butthurt
patience is key to absolute despair
Tupper is key
It appears someone's found a temp fix in #user-support-old
well i mean yes because i mean he is. or well i assume to be one of the developers
Natalie see above
or at least the person that announces stuff.
I don't understand how when you're invested in game so much that you're the creator you don't adjust to notes sent by dev honestly
"invested"? u do know the game is free. but anyway i mean i do see your point
invested invested
like I said things will be handled with. again patience is all we ask for
How does this game make money anyways?...
Invested yes, as in you spend your time on it
this is for people who bougtht avatars
A lot of time if you're the creator
me, not being the developer or one of the mods can say this enough to you but im saying it as a part of the community
lol
money is just a result of time
investing time is the same as investing money, from a personal perspective
๐
Invested =/= money okay if I have to explain it there's no reason for me to be here honestly
...to be fair I see merchendise, not only that devs got jobs...
Well I am not and your also not so you cant say if they are being invsted or not and if they are. they are infact probably taking a lot of time on it.b ut you as the person that is talking in the chat
EXPLAIN
all you have to do is be patience
http://prntscr.com/ltv62p ok.. how fix it
vrchat team probably makes money off of vrchat like everyone else, through commissions
Noe please help me try to at least explain a little better what im trying to say i feel like im getting nowhere at all ๐ฆ
select one at a time @light wedge
not sure about commissions but I heard vrchat got funded
Yes but investors expect to be paid back
Sometimes giving up is a good option
nah @vocal shard I think your point is getting across, no one particularly disagrees
thx @weary bison
well i mean okay that may or may not be the case. not being your business. but like even if it does get funded. coding a game isnt easy as well as coding bug fixes
and so patience is all it needs. it snot like a triple A title like GTA
like it doesnt have merchandise or whatever
I wouldn't bother arguing about the semantics of using the term "invest", it can be used for a lot of subjects

anyway im glad I got my point across. just please chill. maybe in about a week or so probably in a month everything will be fixed. i promise
I'm getting angery
it always does
Tried to catch up what yall talking but what i can say is be glad vrc is free
it's an alpha i'd hope it's not functional
or it doesn't deserve the label anymore
(^:
i just said i hope it's NOT functional
vrchat alpha needs a flea bath
I would be ready to do world of warcraft kind monthly 15โฌ sub to keep game running but i doubt many here would not
I fell Miku is trying too hard
so many blacked out worlds
i'm sure most people here remember alpha minecraft
and then never playing it again

well I am done trying to keep all of you chill
So atm i dont understand people bitching over this game
: P
we bitch about whatever we want duh

well im not saying i am stopping you im just trying to cool down the situation going on is all
vrchat is like every other forum, people are gonna bitch about it being broken
Yes avatars broke yes worlds broke but you know these things happend if they dont we dont have any progress from dev team
its not the developers fault if the game breaks. like i said. a game isnt easy to program and things happen
well whatever works i guess
whose fault is it
your cable companys
It's players fault if theur avatars break they need to fix them
Uhhh, pretty sure it's the developers responsibility to maintain a game
I mean like, guys, when you think about it. if vrchat does become a full fletched out chat vr game and it gets alot of peoples attention. merchandise might probably be made for it
Nothing against these hard working devs though
World dosent spin only around them
(probably most likely some ugandun knuckles plushies..
though like that meme is super old
merch was already made for it honestly
was it? well i mean the ugandun knuckles plushies at first i thought they were fan made but i saw you can get it on ebay for almost like 20 bucks
@trail star world and avatar creators are also game developers here, that's what makes it difficult. unity was never designed with the idea of having some bake assets and then never have the source files around for an engine upgrade... but without unity people wouldn't have nearly as good tooling to make things
instead of fixing the game they made tshirts gg devs know ur priorities
well... that too and also the ddlc plushies but thats another discussion for another game, for another time
I prefer tshirts
so... unity is being pushed a bit past where it was designed to be, and that's how we got vrchat, and sometimes you have to pay the price for pushing things a bit beyond where they were designed to be used
they're pretty good shirts tbh ๐ฐ
well redfrag everyone has their own uhhh type of merchandises they like. me personally. plushies because they are soft
I guess that's just the problem with relying on someone else's engine. Yikes.
I lied I dont prefer tshirts at all
@trail star it's the problem, but you get a lot from relying on someone else's engine
@trail star its the player base that makes or breaks a game.... if no players theres no game even though theres great developers
building an engine from scratch? no way vrchat has the funding or devteam for that
well the good side is its optimized and has many tools
wdym engine from scratch
this is running on unity
The games already broken. It's the players that find out the games broken.
downside is its limited and constantly updated
We should use the Metal gear Solid game engine for VRchat so I could effectively choke you.
the updating is also an upside but also means fixing and changing things because of other fixes and changes
well I mean if you were to compare garrys mod, garrys mod completely relies on the half life or half life 2 engine , and sure it may work fine but that was because even though it was a very difficult game to code. atleast the developers are always updating it. and sure like i said bugs may still happen. but when you compare it to vrchat, its like no different. every game has bugs, one way or another, and it always have bug fixes, case closed
Source engine
s o u r c e
Also take look at fallout 76 now it's been going only downhill since devlopment and not going up im and you guys who whine about things breaking should be glad we atleast are not being lied to like todd howard and his sweet little lies
well thats what i meant
vrchat may replace gmod, if udon is really good
source/source engine it does not matter
it started out as a hl2 mod like others but was independently developed on source
all im trying to do is to show you guys that, any game can have a bug and just about anybody will go in the forums complaining about it
Updating to 2017 earned them lts from unity
(until someone eventually does get banned
I'm super hyped for udon
updating to 2017 also buttraped all the toon shaders to have no shading until u update the avatar
udon??? whats that
Fallout 76 is the most hilarious Bethesda disaster yet.
gui scripting
making an engine from scratch would take you a year or so. As a solo dev. And even then it has little point and will be lacking in multiple areas which professional engines already got covered
wait so ur saying i cant use toon shaders anymore
vrchat visual scripting language for world creation
i wonder whoat the max file size for a world is cause what if somone made a 1 gb game world thats very optimised
Udon
More like udon't
they should make some node system for avatars o3o
Uhh hmm I do see your point. oof.

udon because slurp my brain like noodles
but like i said. i am sure that they will bring everything up to speed and updated at some point. just patience
okay?
can we rename miku to patienceman
๐
rude : P
you repeat it alot though :p
I know. but I am just trying to prove a couple of points
I can't connect to any world at all.
I am sure the develeopers would tell you the same thing too
Importing projects was surprisingly easy tbh, though i'd imagine it's a pain for those who has a lot of projects to import over to the new unity
yall who still whine i recomend take day off of vrc get some fresh air and maybe then fix your avatars and return to game nothing good comes from that nonsense whining
Imagine if we were allowed to safely script things for our worlds
Can't connect to anything in vr chat
ok my unity just crash http://prntscr.com/ltvc95
Just launches and stays in the blue loading area with no loading icon
That's normal
rez im not whining im just trying to explain to everyone what is going on and that it will be fixed soon
but.. i feel like im not being listened to very much
yep its normal. Also after staying in the loading area it will eventually get stuck in the ok button loop
it does?
after an hour of waiting or so
again probably a bug they will fix
People will always whine when there's a new update out it's normal
a few days and it'll go back to normal most likely
Oh hey uhm tupper. i forgot to ask. when will the update be? everyone was wanting to know
The game is not working right now anyone know if there's a fix?
@vocal shard ment people over all who were saying '' noo new update broke my avatar and world gg rip game '' if they are that lazy they can always quit game pretty sure none will miss them if they are having that hard time to even reupload avatar or world
^ I think the developer is still working on it
#announcements
taking oclacs job
uh oh, vr pill is online
well i mean yeah because there will alwas be new worlds or avatars
because i mean how many are playing the game now?
oculus
Wireless
thousands? idk, millions?
thousands
7k avg. player a day.
!online
There are 3004 users in VRChat currently
Nah it's down to 6k Sails
and so i mean sure there may be a few people that might complain about it being broken. at least theres some people that still appreciate how theres a game that you can go into vr with any avatar you want talking to people
Yikes
Game is dead!
oh no
Game died 8 months ago plz
make knuckles fast
I mean unless if.. well like, someone suddenly decides to make a doki doki literature club vr dating simulator but i bet that will be years before it happens ๐
Nobody cares about Doki Doki anymore.
seeing as the game is still kinda sorta new for about a year or two, and merch is still being made. sure its still being talked about but
Is that a challange?
ddlc vr dating sim
I had to read that twice
well , yeah exactly
But that pigeon datin sim on the other hand. ๐ค
well if someone does make it and its kinda a good one then, alright, i suppose i will give credit where credit is due
but at least be thankful you have a vr chatting game still
Noe its really hard running a chat. how do you live with this everyday?
wdym
^ i mean just go back and listen to yourselves
I am sure even one person wants to let alone have a small break every now and then
just chill ๐
sounds pretty everydayish to me ^^
Exactly.
having a comfy neko to pet helps
ouo well i have a m iku body pillow to snuggle
Cats are the devil. Get a dog.
cats are the devil. And I like it
dogs are a pain in the ass, get a cat.
Waiting for the day someone makes prop-hunt in this game
cats really arent evil they are cute creatures that always want to be loved and petted. and dont always bark loudly like dogs too. had you heard how loud they can bark, yet alone 2 in the same house?
( speaking from a experience where i have take care of 2 dogs everyday.
oh, you didnt hear my cats bark yet
Uhhh I am pretty sure cats dont bark they meow.
Weird, I launched the game, it loaded in fine, everything was okay, then I quit, clear the cache, and now I'm stuck at the blue screen after a short appearance of Loading
Cats don't care if you love them or not. You're there to feed them, that's it.
not the usual ones
Acurrian again thats just a bug.
well i mean sails not all cats are like that. there are some that love it when you love them
one learns unity, one gets into vrchat dev team, one gets it fixed
there's some server issues
especially if they are like really fluffy cats
@quartz basin Yes, I don't
I love the fact that the Admin here has both a cute name and has an anime picture as a profile
Makes me happy to see we're ruled by weebs โค
It can't be a server issue if I just got on it before clearing my cache though o~o
Yeah not all cats are loveless creatures,
#yesallcats
ruled by weebs 10/10
Oh speaking of which we should have a poll chat and make it to where we can vote if all of us like cats or dogs
unless if you think thats too hard to maintain which i understand.
well i mean she is the cutest but when i was trying to apologize to her on twitter i was blocked..
oof
unfortunatly
Nani
nono Tupper best anime gurl
We demand Free Dolly
yeah a year ago some trollers, when i was asking fo rhelp on something, kinda was trying to make my day even worse and i was falsely kicked or banned off this discord server
No Block 
Tupper is actually a buff hairy dude in his mid forties.
see, just like I said - best anime gurl
apparently even though i did ask in the right chat but i did ask for soem people in the general to kinda go ahead and help me as there was no one or not much people that actually were helping. and trollers got off the deep end
all because "i asked in general."
again a huge mistake of mine and im sorry for that.
still they did get a good laugh
People ask for help in wrong channels all the time nothing new
Yeah no I know right exactly. ๐
Yes, never post in the shitpost category if you want some good advice.
tupper isn't in his 40s 
50's?
Proof or get out!
is he buff tho
but I suppose people were just trying to give me a hard time...
having oculus support made me realize.......oculus still doesn't have a built in way to take screenshots orz, maybe i'll have to keep using steamvr
Yeah most likely Miku
unlike i hadnt already dealt with alot of people like that on discord already. (random harrassers with rumors about me, i rather not bring that into here but i had to deal with that every month.
tupper is built like a friend
friend shaped
because people kept making alts and i had to block each one i found suspicious
see, BEST ANIME GURL
With the power of friendship!
Was there a reason they took away the ability to change mics ingame
you can but that would mean id have to tilt off my headset and go down to my keyboard
yeah it's a unity issue @storm forge
i may as well whip out the camera instead at that point
it's being worked on
i get pretty good performance with steamvr so no big loss using it
still, when people were in this discord server were giving me a hard time, i did accidently ping a admin for help a few times to ban those trollers but i was banned instead. i didnt know that doing that would get them annoyed..
noticed an LTC update when i went into unity, do i want to stay up to date on that or should i turn off automatic updating?
again, my mistake.
cant ping admins in here. If you wanna ping em, ask someone else to ping
stay at .15
k i figured, just wanted to be sure
well I mean I didnt realize that at the time and I was being a hot headed idiot back then
sounds fun
all because I needed help..
Rip, VRChat was working fine for me tonight and then I lost connection. Now Iโm just stuck in the infinite blue screen
Tbh I love the new update
Looks like a game that is meant to be in 2018 instead of source days
Sometimes though I feel like people are trolling me just to get the most "hilarious" reactions and I find that ridiculous
Ahh most people also make the mistake to ping admins/team
If you need help with chat related problems (Harassment etc) Senior Chat Mod is who you want to ping
Rules says you shouldn't ping admins/team unless it's urgent
trolling is overrated
well i mean trolling might be over rated but people still do it anyway
@vocal shard says in the rules not to ping an admin or ask the same question multiple times. Both scenarios could have been avoided if you just read the rules.
because apparently people can be too stubborn sometimes to change.
Imagine rulling a server with 5k + members and being annoyed for being pinged instead of muting the said ping
best way to ping an admin is making someone ping an admin. You dont get banned, you get to ask ur question = profit

it is possible to read the rules but then forget one or two, especially if theyre as long as the rules here
well again, not much people were helping me back then and people were trolling.
Thats exactly the point, they dont wanna mute it, its meant for emergency pings
Niyah as said they are there for urgent cases..
but that was back then so i rather not go back to doing that again. and move on
dw miku, other people dont wanna get banned either
@neat dawn its like 20 rules not hard to remember.
besides from what someone told me those people were banned though
probably best to move on from this @vocal shard, it's all good now~
I am glad to hear it ๐
pat pat
it does mak eme feel a lil better
not really the place to discuss past discord issues
urgent cases ? Like the 150 times the servers are dying and nothing is popping after like 2/3 hours at best ? Kappa
love yall. โฅ
it is a free game
this aint urgent
well i mean yeah but its taking a while for it to finish the backup
lol now I'm stuck on an infinite Loading > Go >Loading >Go loop
Guess I'll just keep waiting then
urgent is if you live near the servers and see a fire
nevermind apparently it finished.
alright now im getting connection issues
I don't know what's defined as urgent but just don't ping them is the easiest way to not get yeeted
still having server issues, you can be sure they're working on them
anyway i will let you all go back to talking. oh and noe. i hope you have a good christmas and a good day, cheerio ^^
yeah
nyan
mew~

i wasn't before and i was like maybe am lucky but nope xd im stuck with the vrc logo repeating to disappear and re appear lol
Noe, you on?

good luck living close to amazon datacenter lmao, btw, is the oculus version worth it ? currently asking myself if i should switch, which would mean no steamvr but also no playspacemover ree
have wait vr chat can fix it
on?
I mean.. playing right now?
ok is anyones thing working
nope, couldn't connect
!online
Oof.
There are 2919 users in VRChat currently
okay uhm its been a while since i done this. noe can u tell me how to update it again
woah thats bad
@civic plume dude theres issues just wait jesus
That don't look so good
only 3k
oof
Wow that's the lowest number i've seen in a long time
shut up dont put words in my mouth mate @glossy wharf
put something else
@fringe glade I can assure you it's worth at least the nothing they're charging for it


do i have to delete the sdk i have currently (when unity is not open) open up unity, drag the updated SDK in, and then restart unity?
red frag u needa quit the lewd kkay?
:c
having it in oculus is convenient, I haven't noticed that much of a performance increase though
Read the guide. @vocal shard
I mean.. I'm used to just play around with playspace mover to fix my heigh and shit since vrchat usually fuck up my toes bones, and if i remove them, the legs are kinda wonking moving alone so.. idk
It tells you in depth what to do
i actually have never seen vrchat so stuck before... this is terrible :/
i hope nothing bad is happening like idk hacks haha
are people not able to get to the main lobby world
@vocal shard check announcements for a guide on migrating to 2017
otherwise im calling big oof
lmfao you were not there when the servers had 20k players then.
@little torrent #server-status
Is there other people having endless loading screen issues. One of my friends is.
Monty read the server status..
yep there is other people
yeah @vocal shard
ok jw
tons just look
Its like the 4 days of server issues all over again
!online
There are 2919 users in VRChat currently
At some point people will be able to read i believe
Yeah same Sai
I hope
my is work
@glossy wharf Nah
How many people are usually online
Oclac leave me the spark of hope
6k Average Accurian
Depend. Goes from 5k to 9k
At this time usually like 5-6k
Just give up โค
never gonna give you up
Man.. this sounda like what happened back in November
never gonna let you down
kinda?
welp time to sleep for an extra hour-- see ya guys soon
No, this certainly is happening like the last time
NO
I guess the game is down right now?
oclac whos gonna send ppl to #announcements now

Basically, yes
Not my problem red- Im sleeping
he wont just send them WE will throw them there
can we throw u first
Guess im avoiding this discord today so we dont have people constantly interrupting convos because they are unable to read
Yeet
can u throw me first
no ๐

@glossy wharf public channel. please don't over value yourself in a public forum
Beep beep banned emote detected
@vocal shard

t h i n i c e
Delete imideatly @vocal shard
why ban?
i mean that entire discord account is probably bannable lmao
thats dumb
you either delete or get deleted
i got into vrchat XD
antisemitism, not even once
whats wrong with p[epega?
but the online count is dropping like my grades back in 2016
Pepe is banned here, don't use it.
nothing wrong. Not as much as things wrong with this world anyway.
i have to sleep is late
I am going to bed. I will see you all later, goodnight and merry christmas
(though is not christmas yet for me
It's still there 
I'd delete it before it's too late, btw
he pussi
It's not
allowed
As i said 2 mins ago
Pepe emotes are nowadays associated with hate symbols, as such they ain't allowed here
if they ban jewordi its antisemitism dw
Umm.. no exceptions on whoever uses it.
pepe isn't a hate symbol, only MSM normies believe that
but, again people wont see it that way, but for real im going to bed, see u
Still against the rules, oof
people crying on patchday xD always the same ๐
yeah, exactly, anyway goodnight
R.I.P ~ VRChat 12/12/2018
Last words.. We finally got 2017 engine version dies from ddos

Lmao wtf
Man
@vocal shard
#rules
16. ''No emoji, icons or pictures/memes that are widely associated with hate speech, or are highly inappropriate (such as Pepe)''
this was one highly appropriate pepe
We dont consider them hate speech, but media does, and some easily triggered peps do so we all get the big ๐ because of that
dont you even try to remove it
actually its kinda retarded, we know
yeah
it's a rip but rules are rules
How to stop being annoying
- Shut up
- Read #1
- I love you
it's not hate speech in actuality, but 4chan tricked a bunch of reporters and it stuck so
RIP pepe I guess
is it just me or can anyone else not change their home world
aww I love you too bruh
no one uses pepega for hate speech
pat pat
there I win
๐ wp, boys
we got em.
@vocal shard It's not really hate speech but some people on CNN said it was so you have to respect the rules on this Discord server. Sorry
btw vrchat is now black screen lol, it wont load anymore its had enough 
Sad VR hours

its just closed eyes virtual reality
Pepe is associated with hate speech therefore you can't use it :P
if you want to use it and risk getting yeeteed it's up to you though
just watch something jesus
see look what you guys did. You enabled slow mode over a frog
Didn't they enable it before that?
To clarify, Pepe isn't actually associated with hate speech. Just degenerates use it as a meme and some loud racist people used it once and it never lost its reputation. NEXT TOPIC PLZ
no
gotta name ur kid Pepe
Don't Twitch have like 5,000 different Pepe emotes
It just became a topic because people got offended by a cartoon frog.
Snowflakes ruin everything.
^
Yeah it's a given in this server 
the ruckus continued because you didn't shut your mouth
goodnight all
I don't see anything wrong. You're using a jewish name with a jewish avatar using a "hate" symbol.
yes, Twitch has like 9000+ Pepe emotes because it's a good reaction emote, not a symbol of racist nazis or whatever. Out of touch, non-internet people on CNN and the like just got trolled and made a BS news story on Pepe thinking they figured out some grand conspiracy
The vrc client is not even running, is it normal?
Man if it's such a massive issue by arent Twitch being put on blast for having Pepe's as emotes
Really makes you think
who cares about an emote lul
cnn and adl do
Kinda funny watching people get offended over a frog
People get offended by everything these days it's crazy




