vrchat-general-2

[primal island]

The ''a'' for Unity

[languid beacon]

So now that VRC is on Oculus Home, does that mean an Oculus Quest version will be possible?

[near sky]

@alpine cove Even just with OpenComposite I've seen ~20% improvement in generally worse-performing rooms on an i7-8700k with a GTX 970. A lot of variability there though.

[grand zealot]

http://puu.sh/Cg7xh/3aca716aec.png Do I have to update my API for this?

[floral aspen]

idk. depends on if a quest could even run vrchat

[vocal shard]

Maybe they'll pull some magic

[primal island]

Idk.. What Unity should I download?... Can someone link me the exact one I should download?

[safe yacht]

Is anyone else feeling a considerable performance boost from the update?

[stone current]

supposed to be there

[safe yacht]

Everything seems to be working much better and it’s nice.

[stone current]

more optimized stuff in 2017

[vocal shard]

I think some things were moved off the main core

[floral aspen]

^

voice is no longer on the main thread

[vocal shard]

Long time ago

[primal island]

I get this error when I click on ''Show build control panel'' ''Ex [HTTPRequest]: CallCallback - Message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object StackTrace: at VRC.Core.APIResponseHandler.HandleReponse (Int32 requestId, VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPRequest req, VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPResponse resp, VRC.Core.ApiContainer responseContainer, Int32 retryCount, Boolean useCache) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at VRC.Core.API+<SendRequestInternal>c__AnonStorey9+<SendRequestInternal>c__AnonStoreyC.<>m__13 (VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPRequest req, VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPResponse resp) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPRequest.CallCallback () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
UnityEngine.Debug:LogError(Object)
VRC.Core.BestHTTP.Logger.DefaultLogger:Exception(String, String, Exception)
VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPRequest:CallCallback()
VRC.Core.BestHTTP.ConnectionBase:HandleCallback()
VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPManager:OnUpdate()
VRC.Core.BestHTTP.HTTPUpdateDelegator:Update()
UnityEditor.EditorApplication:Internal_CallUpdateFunctions()
''

[vocal shard]

Yikes. Not chat for this buddy

[tame sleet]

If someone crashes u is it harmfull for ur pc?

[vocal shard]

Yes. U die irl

[floral aspen]

#user-support-old

[tacit plank]

I think there's a new SDK with the 2017 version?

[floral aspen]

there is a new sdk yes

[alpine cove]

only if you have a very old graphics card, and at that point it'd be so old you'd barely be able to run the game

[tame sleet]

Oh aight

[tacit plank]

They can't harm your computer, no

[floral aspen]

^

[alpine cove]

some very old AMD cards don't have good protection against being forced to render tons of stuff. very small userbase though. in general no, your driver is going to give up long before anything can do any harm

[tacit plank]

They just try to scare you because they're dicks. It's also why they're crashing you in the first place

[vocal shard]

@tame sleet but on a serious note. It can just stress ur hardware and it might be slower for some time and it recovers. Sometimes drivers break

[tacit plank]

Hardware is made to run on 100% just fine, how would it stress it? Using other parts of it or something?

[tidal aspen]

your computer will crash way before it would get to the point of harming hardware

[rough pulsar]

If your hardware is fine, a crash won't do anything to it.
If your hardware has existing problems there's a small chance they could begin to manifest, but it's not the crash doing it.

[austere quest]

Player with blank Name crashed me, good Start into the new Update.

[tidal aspen]

it might make startup slower or w/e

[tacit plank]

I doubt that, dafire

[vocal shard]

@austere quest a warm welcome

[tacit plank]

Rude

[vocal shard]

Tuck Fupper

[south viper]

wow.ogg

[alpine cove]

reasonable response. lol.

[tame pewter]

tupper loves me

[tidal aspen]

it might just be my pc or w/e but whenever my computer crashes it takes a bit longer to startup than usual, it's temporary though

[umbral reef]

Tuck in tupper ❤

[tame pewter]

oauth a la February,. those were the days....

[tacit plank]

Ah, if the computer itself crashes, it might try to repair or collect system information or something next startup.
But usually, people shouldn't be able to crash your computer together with VRChat

[vocal shard]

plz dont flame me for asking im sorry but is everyone getting the loop of preparing to launch vr chat and nothing happens?

[tame pewter]

Back when oauth was handled by completely ignoring the token and just using plaintext instead, lovely. ❤

[tacit plank]

Haven't heard of that error before. Try #user-support-old though (even thought they will just tell you to do the #vrchat-support things to start with)

[vocal shard]

im seeing on the update notes alot of other people are stuck on this like it doesnt even open off steam

[civic vine]

T-Pose issue was fixed by unplugging Xbox 360 Controller, thanks for the solution but Urgh!

[solemn plover]

I really wish there was a feature that specifically offloads avatar preloads before you enter a new world to save people's RAM somehow. I personally run on 12 GB due to my limitations and would be great if this was considered.

[civic vine]

I run 32Gb due to my awesomeness and that makes little to no sense to me

[olive mulch]

b

[civic vine]

it's gonna take a long time to get your point across in slow mode if you're only going to say one letter at a time

[olive mulch]

perhaps

oh god who increased the slowmode

[tacit plank]

I don't blame them, lmao

[civic vine]

i think there was a spike in people finding bugs and asking the same question

[rough pulsar]

Slowmode is on for a good reason. Updates are chaotic, even when they go smoothly.

[narrow scaffold]

finally.. VR chat is running at actual 90 fps, instead of 25

[olive mulch]

this hurts

[civic vine]

My friends shader seems to have been borked by the update but it looked fine to me.

[rough pulsar]

Reuploading through 2017.4.15f1 should fix it

[rancid nova]

was poklawls in that trailer?

[rough pulsar]

I'd hope not

[rancid nova]

why?

[civic vine]

thanks Gallium I'll let him know

[olive mulch]

who?

oof?

[rancid nova]

poke was the most popular vrc streamer through december 2017 and january though, he was a large reason for the games growth...

[olive mulch]

what’d he do?

[rough pulsar]

The D&D group I'm in is in there though :B

[rancid nova]

pretty ignorant to say that about the dude that put the game on the map lol

[alpine cove]

I just use safety settings + particle limiter

[fathom nymph]

what happens if i don't upgrade to unity 2017 and still upload from the old unity?
avatars/world issues?

[floral aspen]

your stuff probably won't work

[tidal aspen]

you won't be able to upload

[shell fox]

is anyone can not open the VRchat like me ?

[floral aspen]

what are your specs?

[rigid crescent]

check out user support, i think theyre helping with that issue there

[ivory folio]

https://i.imgur.com/GBC5JMp.png

[shell fox]

ah ok
think you

[delicate stump]

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/audiosdk/latest/concepts/book-audio-ovrlipsync/

oculus lipsync now supported

[twin jacinth]

Anyone has a fix for the mic input changing everytime i start up vrchat?
i can change it, it will work but then if i restart steam it'll change back to my vive and it's, annoying af

[vocal shard]

@delicate stump !?

[civic plume]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 4772 users in VRChat currently

[raven silo]

@delicate stump vrchat all ready have lipsync

[vocal shard]

it's been using that lib all along afaik

[delicate stump]

ah, the one from oculus too, didn't know, looks too similar yeah

[raven silo]

vrchat does good for lipsync just need how to model to make look good

[delicate stump]

I need to learn to rig a face first hehe

[queen mango]

They can help you at the #avatar-rigging channel.

[delicate stump]

thanks, I'll show them my avatar

[twin jacinth]

Elire you're still up?
Nani

[ruby burrow]

Thanks to CATS setting up lipsync on a fresh model is far easier than I expected it to be.

Only really need to know how to make three relatively simple blendshapes.

[queen mango]

@twin jacinth It's early morning for me.. 5:45 AM

[twin jacinth]

Oh so you just woke up?

[queen mango]

Yea.

[twin jacinth]

Ahhh i see, it's 22:46 over here

[delicate stump]

CATS is only for MMD? my avatar is made from scratch in 3ds max

[queen mango]

...Timezones

[rigid crescent]

Cats works for a few things actually

[raven silo]

@delicate stump you can use tools on any model just fix rigged button might be able to some model but hotox been like every type model

[muted crown]

hi i was wondering if some one might be able to help i just logged into vrchat and my ui was massive and i cannot change avatar because of this

[raven silo]

hotox add VRoid support to cat plugin

[twin jacinth]

Indeed, also i just found Heartlexx :>
sssh

[rigid crescent]

vroid is kinda meh

[safe prism]

VRoid is has blender support now
it's format, rather

[gleaming patio]

so uh, should we just uninstall unity 5.6?

[queen mango]

Replace it with Unity 2017

[floral quiver]

I cant launch VRChat after the update. Is there a reason why

[night lava]

Yes @gleaming patio , it's dead to us

[queen mango]

Did you try replacing 5.6.1p3 with Unity 2017.4, @floral quiver?

[floral quiver]

Ooooohh

XD Thanks lol

[queen mango]

[floral quiver]

Gonna update unity now

[gleaming patio]

the link on vrchat.net pointing to unity is dead https://unity3d.com/unity/qa/patch-releases/2017.4.15f1

i know how to d/l it, just saying

[floral quiver]

Can u try dm me. I broke my mouse over it cas it ended up freezing my system bad and made the mouse jidder so i smashed it :p so i gotta use big picture mode to use controller as mouse

[gleaming patio]

wew smashing a mouse

[lavish crown]

Someone sent me this, looks like bullshit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495098923178786828/522168036992745473/image0.jpg

[floral quiver]

It was jiddering ever since i launched vrchat and it wasn't working xD

[lavish crown]

anyone else run into that?

[umbral reef]

Tell them they are dumb and should stop spreading rumors

[lavish crown]

I dont think they were being malicious, but yeah looks fake to me too

[gleaming patio]

propaganda by high fidelity proponents

[umbral reef]

Spreading the rumors and fake news is still harmful towards the game

[queen mango]

Breeds confusion.

[lavish crown]

Thanks for answering that for me!

[tidal aspen]

hey guys I heard from my friend whose dad works for VRcha ha hackers can disable your T button on your keyboard with his update becareful

[tall axle]

hi guys

[stark coral]

t button? wat

[gleaming patio]

or the hacker who can blind you and stab your eyes within a vr headset

[lavish crown]

you die in the game you die in real life

[gleaming patio]

yes

[stark coral]

shit then someone kill me

[tidal aspen]

make sure you @ everyone on your servers to make sure people stay safe 😃

[gleaming patio]

he plays the brown note ingame and everyone simultaneously craps themselves

[hasty wedge]

guys latest update broke my mobo can u tell all ur circlejerks and warn them

[gleaming patio]

so uh we CAN update to 2017.4.17 and on as long as we stay on 2017.4?

[tidal aspen]

no

[umbral reef]

If we could they would not tell you to download that version man

[gleaming patio]

so 2017.4.15 and done

[vocal shard]

so is this security leak fo realz or

[rigid crescent]

nope

[granite drift]

no

[rigid crescent]

proceed to roast everyone you know spreading the rumor in all your discords, it's good for them

[gleaming patio]

the newest blog post doesnt make it very clear lol https://medium.com/@vrchat/vrchat-2018-4-3-unity-2017-4-and-the-oculus-store-31913ca0cf3b it just says 2017.4, you gotta look in the previous one to see 2017.4.15

[tidal aspen]

not really

[weary bison]

.17 is unsupported

[umbral reef]

@pale hull aint a security leak tho

[tidal aspen]

nothing in game is p2p afaik so there shouldn't be much of a way for your ip to get shown

[umbral reef]

Tell that to steam 👀

As they use there networking*

(Had an old copy paste left )

[tidal aspen]

worst people can do with your ip is approximate your location or maybe ddos you anyways

[gleaming patio]

noe: it doesn't help that the link on vrchat is dead https://vrchat.net/download/unity

[weary bison]

grab it from https://unity3d.com/unity/qa/lts-releases

[gleaming patio]

gotta link there from the site

[ebon vortex]

@shell fox same i cant open vrchat

hello anyone

[floral aspen]

@ebon vortex try #user-support-old

[ebon vortex]

thank you im sorry

[rigid crescent]

man imagine commissioning an avatar and its broke smh

[slow canyon]

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows a world with christmas avatars?

[rigid crescent]

try searching holiday, xmas, or christmas in worlds

[tacit plank]

Avatars don't just break

[rigid crescent]

i havent seen any yet though

[tacit plank]

Maybe a component or a shader needs a refreshing, but the bones (and other important things) stay

[small wing]

My avatar keeps T posing after the new update, this is also happening with the default avatars also.

[rigid crescent]

I mean they have to reup it but not everyone can lol

[crisp ruin]

Avatars do break. My toon shader broke

[small wing]

It basically made the game unplayable, I can't walk around

[unkempt cliff]

Uh, Unity is offering to update from 2017.4.15f1 to 2017.4.17f1. Do I accept?

[tacit plank]

If you pay for an avatar, make sure you actually recieve it.
Don't update btw jesse

[crisp ruin]

No*

[unkempt cliff]

Alright.

[uncut bluff]

hate to ask this but what version 2017 unity 2017.4.15 ?

[tacit plank]

Rollthered, another guy had that issue and fixed it by unplugging an xbox controller or something
Maybe your game is picking up some usb device that it shouldn't
Fake leg tracker sounds strange though!

[small wing]

Anyone else getting a fake leg tracker appearing and breaking locomotion?

I literally cannot play the game because of this bug, and they said this was fixed from what i remember.

[placid umbra]

@uncut bluff Yes

[uncut bluff]

thank you

[tidal aspen]

SteamVR detects game pads as a FBT trackers and puts you into calibration mode. Work around this by checking your SteamVR before launching VRChat, and if you see an additional controller, unplug it

[gleaming patio]

lawl. i love when steamvr considers one of the trackers one hand

[tacit plank]

Isn't programming amazing

[small wing]

@tidal aspen I will give that a shot

[gleaming patio]

and then i start vrchat and only have one hand

[rigid crescent]

what about pug advertisements

[supple spade]

why wont my vrchat open?

[tidal aspen]

start steam vr -> controllers marked as left and right -> go into vrchat -> hands are swapped

😠

[rigid crescent]

is the VRChat not opening an old processor thing?

[astral pollen]

is anyone haveing avitar reupload problems?

[true sky]

Am now

[astral pollen]

i cant seem to find my avis even though i did what you needed to do to upload to the new unity. they show on my build menu but not inworld

[glossy wharf]

Muscle editor fucked for anyone else?

[unkempt cliff]

Weird, i reinstalled the vrcsdk and existing components on my avatars are screwed. I need to reinstall Dynamic Bones too i guess, they're broken for me too

[true sky]

Noticed that now I keep getting error updating avatar

[vestal axle]

why is vrchat not running for some people?

[true sky]

AVX instructions missing on old proccessors

[astral pollen]

vrc is running for me when i use both steam and rift virsions { not at the same time tho}

[true sky]

Seems to be the audio plugin that was changed

[astral pollen]

that moment when you see that you installed the worng unity by acident x.x

[gleaming patio]

rest in peace

[true sky]

F

[astral pollen]

i have unitiy 2017.4.17f1 and i needed 2017.4.15f1

pay ateention to the numbers guys x.x

[vestal axle]

k

[tacit plank]

Don't update if it asks you to

[astral pollen]

well i guess im set with that avatar set when vrc goes to that virsion of unity

[delicate perch]

anyone know what this is? https://puu.sh/Cgbli/2a1560ac0e.jpg

[gleaming patio]

click proceed

[delicate perch]

V-___-V

[gleaming patio]

it's so you can start vrchat from https://vrchat.net

[delicate perch]

seems fishy

[gleaming patio]

and directly join a world thorugh the OFFICIAL WEBSITE

[vapid socket]

i love you tupper ❤

[clear swift]

I love you tupper ❤

[tidal aspen]

it's so when you click on vrchat invite links you go to the world

[oblique linden]

I love you Tupper ❤

[delicate perch]

still seems fishy

[tidal aspen]

it's pretty normal if you want you can open the vrchat directory and rename install.exe to something else so it won't open again

[delicate perch]

so ive noticed all my old avatars are borked, but when i just reupload them in the new unity they work fine, neat

[umbral reef]

Just like they stated would happen within there posts...
But keep in mind- There are some more technical things broken broken that wont just be fixed within a reupload. You can find those also within the blogposts though

[devout patio]

since updating my avatar to 2017 my hands disapear when they are close to the face? someone have the same problem?

[delicate perch]

makes sense

[tidal aspen]

that's jus the clipping plane of the camera, if something gets too close the object won't render it's different for each world since people set up cameras differently, the smaller you are the more likely your hands will get clipped the closer they are to your face

[fresh merlin]

damn i love the new update. game is smoother than ever

previously it felt so laggy with 90 fps now even 60 fps is smooth

[vocal shard]

why do I spawn in T pose in vrchat?

[slow canyon]

Do you have a usb device plugged in @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

yes my vrheadset and my normal headset

[devout patio]

@tidal aspen oh ok, thanks

i just tested it in the great pug and it works fine

[true sky]

t-pose is best pose

[vocal shard]

I still need help tho

[true sky]

does it happen to every world you go to?

[iron seal]

T

[vocal shard]

Yes of course it does

I relogged, restartet, everything

[granite drift]

Does it matter what avatar you're in?

[vocal shard]

Every of my selfmade avatar doesnt work

[lofty tundra]

i heard gestures dont get stuck on chairs anymore? can anyone confirm?

[true sky]

did you set it as humanoid?

[vocal shard]

helvete. It worked the whole time. after The new update it didnt

[lofty tundra]

is cubed borked with unity 2017?

[true sky]

only shadows until reuploaded

[vocal shard]

So nobody can really tell me a god damn reason in here?

[lofty tundra]

because a friend gets TONS of errors from cubed that he cant enter play mode

[topaz lynx]

any tips on how to make VRChat streams look and feel better? (really. my streams are not getting a lot of viewers. so getting to affiliate status might be a while)

[rigid crescent]

try asking in the support channel jet

Look and feel like how? Performance, or latency-wise?

[topaz lynx]

not sure

i wanted to spice up my streams a little bit with overlays and such

any tips?

[rigid crescent]

I'd take a look at other streamers nd see how their overlays look, just try not to go overlay-crazy

I don't think overlays really persuade or dissuade people from a stream though

[true sky]

works for me somewhat: https://github.com/cubedparadox/Cubeds-Unity-Shaders/releases/tag/0.26

sometimes the outline can come out wrong

best fix is creating a new material

[empty wharf]

Damn wish I was in that Vrchat vid

[vocal shard]

[boreal creek]

quick how do i change mic for vrchat

[vocal shard]

@boreal creek select it in windows as default before you start

[mortal girder]

anyone else get randomly disconnected?

[vocal shard]

in the oculus build, they will add mic selection later afaik

[bright magnet]

Anyone can't change shaders in new unity version?

[civic vine]

@mortal girder yeah, kicked to home cos of a time-out

does anyone know if something has changed about the voice audio? I had real difficulty trying to have a conversation with someone right in front of me in The Pug because someone was talking on the other side of the room. It seemed harder than it needed to be to understand.

[bronze python]

It’s a bug with the audio devices on this build from what I heard

[small wing]

I'm soooo going to use ambisonic audio now if i can get it working.

this new update is hot

[hollow umbra]

this update performance is amazing

[umbral oracle]

Please please raise the 20k tri limit. I'd be so happy

[hollow umbra]

im getting maxed fps

[civic vine]

Looks better, sounds worse.

[hollow umbra]

there are audio issues?

[languid beacon]

@Maxwell Rodgers#6555 I get the same thing every time I close VRchat, despite always clicking “proceed”, it always pops up the next time I close vrchat as well. It’s harmless, just glitched.

[hollow umbra]

also scaled animation works in mirror now

[civic vine]

@hollow umbra I'm perceiving audio issues, go somewhere enclosed like the pug when it's quite busy, try to have a conversation, it's like the person at the other side of the room is as close as the person you're trying to talk to

[hollow umbra]

oh mic audio

[civic vine]

yeah, using a usb headset

[sweet agate]

am i the only one experincing a weird "bug?" sometimes it disconnects me out of VRC (logging me out completely and cant rejoin other than if i have shut down VRC) it have happend to me twice since the new update, maybe a exploit, bug or?

[chilly swan]

Yup

[hollow umbra]

probably exploit, i haven't crash yet and im world hopping constantly

[sweet agate]

oh i see

[hollow umbra]

just got my first logout thing

[undone cobalt]

[storm estuary]

Anyway to run VRChat through Oculus store, while also using the Kinect as full body? As it is now, SteamVR would have to run regardless of which platform i use to launch VRChat :/

[vocal shard]

Pretty much any full body method right now would need steamvr

[storm estuary]

figured 😦

Oh well, untill whatever pops up in the future, i'll just continue using steam 😅

[humble bay]

So if I don't bother redownloading from steam, and I got it from Oculus, would I still be able to run it in desktop mode?

[storm estuary]

dno if Oculus does desktop mode

[humble bay]

It mentioned it on the website. It would be wired if it wasn't offered

[storm estuary]

you could try downloading the game and see 😛

Its not that big of a game really.

[humble bay]

I'm at work right now and I will be for a while more thus why I'm asking. No loss either way I guess

[storm estuary]

Ah, fair enough 😅

[teal cave]

who knows how to fix this strange light points

on shadow

[fringe glade]

Since VRChat is on the oculus shop now

Anyone know of a playspace mover for oculus ? Since that's the only thing i'm using in steam..

[dark narwhal]

i just put legos on my floor so i know when i walk too far away

[queen mango]

Ouch...

[rigid crescent]

can we pin this admin pls. probably the best replacement for the chaperone boundaries

[raven silo]

oculus store not open like steam

[dark narwhal]

its okay i taped nokias to my feet with flex tape so i cant feel the legos

[gleaming patio]

but you keep kicking holes in your walls

[hollow umbra]

so far i have a very positive experience with the new update

[raven silo]

just pad your wall with pillows

[vocal shard]

I have a friend that actually does put tape around his play space so he can't walk past it

[queen mango]

But.. does the blue holo avatar glow white?

[dark narwhal]

just stand in a kiddy pool

[vocal shard]

Lol

[dark narwhal]

keeps the floor clean too so u can eat cheetos in vr

[errant merlin]

I’m guessing it’s not possible to upload content with the old Unity client, right?

[raven silo]

need to be https://download.unity3d.com/download_unity/5d485b4897a7/UnityDownloadAssistant-2017.4.15f1.exe

[flint ore]

Holy crap.

[raven silo]

5.6 is gone forever

[flint ore]

VRChat feels so optimized now. I'm suddenly getting 60fps now.

[hollow surge]

[dark narwhal]

rip 5.6

[errant merlin]

lol

[dark narwhal]

good nuff for non early access?

[raven silo]

new people wonder waht for lol

[queen mango]

Not yet, I think

[hollow surge]

maybe in a century (^:

[raven silo]

vrchat wont get out early access

[dark narwhal]

I WILL PULL IT OUT

[hollow surge]

our great great grandchildren will one day see the day that vrchat leaves early access

that was a joke, we won't have children

[wind imp]

I think it’s great VRC is on the Oculus store now! Grats guys. 😃

[queen mango]

Woah.. Umm.. You sure that ain't outta context?

[raven silo]

when remove on early access mean done work on forever lol

[wind imp]

Heya Jaz

[dark narwhal]

I know what i said

[queen mango]

@hollow surge You technically have me, since I'm 16..

[raven silo]

@wind imp hi long time no see

[wind imp]

IKR. 😊

I keep trying to get back on but it never seems to workout where I get too.

[dark narwhal]

my occulus version of vrc does not start...

[wind imp]

How are you?@raven silo

[brisk raven]

I cant seem to find 2017.4.15f1 in the unity hub, I see 17f1 but it hasnt seemed to successfully upload

[raven silo]

@wind imp i been fine i haven't been vrchat lol jut been in discord. just been busy play games

[wind imp]

@raven silo 🤣

[dark narwhal]

@brisk raven use the link in the discord post to find the right version

[wind imp]

@raven silo well at least your here. I have been told by a few of the guys that they don’t get on anymore because “the old crew” isn’t on anymore.

[raven silo]

@wind imp there still around just alot people split up when got big

[wind imp]

@raven silo I stay on discord and steam so feel free to chat if you get bored. Ohhh I see.

[vocal shard]

"Change mic in windows settings prior to launch"

wth? uhm?

[floral aspen]

seems pretty straightforward to me

[raw plaza]

wtf

[vocal shard]

call me stupid but my windows 10 is being stupid, no microphone choice, it only has one, and I have a total of 3 microphones. all connected. Streaming purposes.

[raw plaza]

why would they do that, why remove option to change mic in-game

[vocal shard]

just select it as default in windows before you launch @vocal shard

[storm stag]

i have to delete all of these right?

[vocal shard]

I just want to know why they would do that ^ what ninja said.

[floral aspen]

because it's bugged

[storm stag]

https://ibb.co/ZVLn668

[vocal shard]

not sure, but it will be back in the next update

welp. time to not play til next update.

[raw plaza]

when is the next update, i need to change mic on the fly all the time this is actually stupid

[vocal shard]

g'day peeps.

[rigid crescent]

Because it's bugged.

[floral aspen]

thats kinda a silly reason not to play but whatevs lol

[vocal shard]

🤷 how dramatic but okay

@floral aspen well I wont be able to speak technically as im having another issue 😉

not dramatic, thanks for the info anyways.
g'day.

oh lol kk

[dark narwhal]

considering building my new pc right now to see if it can open vrchat

[errant merlin]

People who use soundboards to do cool stuff in VR are gonna be pissed they can’t swap mic on the fly in-game through the menu

[vagrant juniper]

the game on desktop runs so smooth now what the

[rigid crescent]

Yeah pretty much

they'll be ok. if they need to do that to have fun then idk, kinda sad

[raw plaza]

its running worse for me for some reason lol

[vocal shard]

@errant merlin not too salty about soundboards being a little trickier tbh

[vagrant juniper]

df

[hollow surge]

i mean, if windows audio wasn't so bad the bug wouldn't even be possible 😏

[tidal aspen]

a reason why it might run worse is because lights may have been switch to mixed

[vagrant juniper]

the game now looks like it's running at 90 fps

[vocal shard]

yeah it's smoother for sure

[vagrant juniper]

they probably optimized it more for performance

[errant merlin]

I really gotta give the new update a try, but I wanna setup the new Unity first

lol they were bottlenecked with single core performance before this update

[umbral oracle]

If you need to change input you can route mic through a virtual audio cable device. For output you can use Audio Router to switch on the fly

[errant merlin]

tfw you need to do all of this when it used to be available in-game

[umbral oracle]

There are lots of issues but yet to see many without some kind workaround

[hollow surge]

PunkerJustinToday at 1:27 AM they probably optimized it more for performance
what else do you optimize for?
memes?

[umbral oracle]

And in return we get better performance and newer unity features

[civic plume]

lol

[vocal shard]

Optimize for the lols

[hollow surge]

to me this update now means i can keep my browser and videos open without vrchat dropping to 89fps

[civic plume]

also in return i see vrchat at exactly 90fps 90hertz and not all stuttery don’t correct my incorrectness i know what i mean

[tidal aspen]

ironically optimizing

[civic plume]

lol

[hollow surge]

i still have 210ms ping to the server though kill me

avatar not available
rip

[vagrant juniper]

that's your internet lol

[hollow surge]

that's not my connection, that's just geographical distance 👀

ironically, i'm pretty sure my avatar that i now can't use was the most optimized of the ones i used 👀

[calm turret]

Hello, can anyone help me? my girlfriend does not see the vrchat update, what can you do to fix it? Thanks in advance.

[austere root]

delete vrchat

and install again - 10min download

[rigid crescent]

uninstall and reinstall or enable automatic updates, yeah

[ruby needle]

restart steam

That should be all

[calm turret]

restart steam already did it ;z

Now I will tell you to install the game again thanks, if nothing happens I will talk again here ><

now he will*

[neat zinc]

downloaded the update now nothing seems to track in vr, every character even the default ones are just in tpose

[eager lichen]

Am I the only one who can't play VrChat for some reason?

[neat zinc]

probably 1 or 2 work

[willow glade]

i cant

it crashes immedately

[ruby needle]

what processor do you have

@willow glade

[errant merlin]

So do world creators have a lot more control in creating more unique worlds now or is the world-creating stuff still the same

[ruby needle]

not to much changes there yet.

the big change will come with udon

somewhen

[errant merlin]

Udon?

[ruby needle]

vrchats visual scripting framework

[willow glade]

intel core i7-6700 i believe

[ruby needle]

hmm that should be allright

[willow glade]

it crashes immediately, doesnt even load me in

[ruby needle]

try the steps of #vrchat-support in that case.

[pseudo dawn]

Why can't I change my microphone within VRChat anymore? I seriously want to know why.

[vocal shard]

Its a glitch...

[ruby needle]

a bug currently only makes the default mic usable

[pseudo dawn]

Oh.

[ruby needle]

mic changing has been disabled to avoide confusiong and random trial and error (i belive)

when the bug is resolved it will come back

[pseudo dawn]

Weird. At least it is only that then.

[vocal shard]

So the "microphone select" option in the settings menu is disabled?

[ruby needle]

yes

[raven silo]

vrchat had mic change support? lol

[ruby needle]

it will use the default mic

[vocal shard]

AIghty, rip my soundboard and stuff for now I guess

[ruby needle]

except for oculus

if you have the oculus store release

that one automatically works

[raven silo]

every time i start vrchat i had make sure on my Vive mic

[vocal shard]

Since I have my Rift's mic for talking, headset mic for Voicemod pro

I used Voicemod to play songs and I switched between them frequently since they were right next to each other in terms of how far I had to go to switch between them

[ruby needle]

use a propper software like voicemeter

and put in your mic plus a virtual audio device

and talk while playing songs.

[vocal shard]

The thing is that people have reported my mic having delay whenever I used voicemod on my rift mic

Also, it's my headset's mic that's being used for Voicemod, meaning that I can use it as a regular mic as well if i need to

it's just that my rift's mic is not gonna be touched

[raven silo]

how many people been vrchat with way outdate cpu lol

[vocal shard]

That's why I use VoiceMeeter With Foobar2000 😄

[teal cave]

guys, who knows this problem, if you're doing a generate light, there are a lot of small light points. I dont know how to fix it

[vocal shard]

Not complaining at all, just saying how I did sumthin

Disconnection issues, its like almost every update..

[hollow umbra]

My friends and I roast people who change their voices. Impressions are fine tho

[ruby needle]

thats a you issue then Kaze

[vocal shard]

Do appreciate the suggestions guys, nice knowing that I have alternate options. I never use the voice changers, I use voicemod as a soundboard for playing entire songs

[teal cave]

this light point just showed up for some reason

It wasn't there before

[rough flax]

I found a bug which is annoying after awhile. Time to eventually report it

[vocal shard]

I generally go to random full lobbies, and then I play the Evangelion theme song while not saying anything and waving my arm and head from side to side (as a Hoppou) it's great when I get a crowd

[hollow umbra]

Once I switched a year ago, desktop mode looks strange and feels weird to move around

[opaque jewel]

Yes there is a bug for desktop and augmented reality users.

[vocal shard]

atleast everything looks smooth, just the only problem is disconnecting.

about 4 servers of open mic night just closed lmao holy.

[hollow umbra]

I’m pretty sure that is someone’s client

[vocal shard]

yea, I love running around playing the evangelion theme song

[hollow umbra]

Open mic has so many exploiters

[vocal shard]

Especially when I get a crowd of people running behind me

Finally not an idiot saying "Hacker"

[hollow umbra]

There were actual hackers attacking vrchat directly at one point

[opaque jewel]

I use the Oculus Rift. And the turning is fast. I love it.

[median basalt]

RIP doppler https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/doppler-on-audio-sources-no-longer-works

[vocal shard]

F

guys what are the worlds that got hit the worst from this update

want to take some screenshots for a funny video 😃

That sounds like a dick move to do

[rigid crescent]

I mean all you'll see is pitch black

[willow glade]

is anyone else getting a "cannot log in: unauthorized" message when trying to log in from a vrchat account

[queen mango]

@vocal shard There's Toga and Ikita's world.. it's blackened all over, except the signboards

[vocal shard]

👍

[rigid crescent]

gasp a wild LoneEeevee has been spotted

[queen mango]

[rigid crescent]

Are they accepting 2017 world submissions?

[raven silo]

should be normal same

there no 5.6 anymore

[queen mango]

Ripperoni 5.6.1p3, you certainly brought laggy memories

[vocal shard]

Anyone RP on VRChat? Lol.

[queen mango]

Umm... You may wanna go to the other VRChat community for that. Check #community-servers-old

[sage chasm]

Should i remove the old unity before installing the new one?? will it transfer data from pervious unity by itself?

[vocal shard]

Is anyone else having trouble playing vrchat? I literally cant even load into the game anymore

[queen mango]

Oof.

[rigid crescent]

if the game doesn't open, your CPU might be too old

[vocal shard]

my cpu has ran this game fine for months though

[queen mango]

What CPU do you have?

[rigid crescent]

The requirements changed.

[umbral oracle]

They changed the minimum spec. For corr i3/5/7 must be sandy bridge or newer (support AVX extension)

[rigid crescent]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/migrating-from-56-to-20174 @sage chasm

[vocal shard]

I have an i7 4790k. I also have a crash log as well.

When I loaded in earlier it worked fine, then I tried joining a world and couldnt launch the game at all anymore.

[umbral oracle]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

[vocal shard]

Cleaned the cache the other night thats not the issue

[umbral oracle]

Then try loading directly from vrchat.net into some stable world skipping your home to rule that out

[vocal shard]

Can I give a copy of the crash log incase the issues in that?

[sage chasm]

Thanks :D@rigid crescent

[rigid crescent]

Be very, very careful when you get to the "registry" stuff. Like very careful

[vocal shard]

Im confused.

[rigid crescent]

if you post in #user-support-old then Aev might be able to help you, i saw him answer that issue you have a lot

[glad hazel]

Does anyone know if they fixed it so we can upload a 2017 unity avatar to a 5.6 unity blueprint?

[indigo fern]

i didnt have a problem 🤔

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, it'll overwrite it, but I guess that doesn't matter now.

[tidal aspen]

you could always do that

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, it was just a bad idea during the beta because 5.6 couldn't run it

[tidal aspen]

they didn't want you doing that earlier because the 2017 avtar wouldn't show in 5.6, but now everyones on 2017 it doesn't matter

[glad hazel]

Ohhh

Thank you^^

[polar bone]

on the oculus desktop version of vrchat i cant use gestures

[pseudo flume]

Did the bug-report channel just vanish or?

[vocal shard]

Bug report became #user-support-old

[raven silo]

@pseudo flume they want you to report on canny for bugs

[queen mango]

It's serving a broader range of issues now, not just bugs.
Plus it was made that way due to that time where tons of users flocked there during the server DDoS attack

It was closed because of it

[pseudo flume]

I see.

[polar bone]

Did the upgrade increase or decrease lag?

[pseudo flume]

Cuz I got my first error after this new update.

And I believe the lag was decreased

Because I'm finding my performance to be way smoother.

[neat dawn]

steam is forcing me to update vrchat but i think my computer might not be able to run it ;-;

damn you steam

[raven silo]

time to upgrade

[shell nest]

so do they list any of the performance upgrades we get from Unity 2017 and VRChats new build

[pseudo flume]

I'm not sure.

[raven silo]

@shell nest https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.4.3/docs/latest-release

just read the blog as well https://medium.com/@vrchat/vrchat-upgrade-to-unity-2017-4-90727844522a

[shell nest]

what I more mean is

are we finally out of that single core usage and now in to multicore?

[raven silo]

yea muilthread 2017 but vrchat would have programming it in

[shell nest]

so we're still stuck at single core single thread?

[neon flume]

afaik VRChat has always been multithreaded to an extent. You can check this by looking at your CPU's usage.

https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/513138884259872768/513470777568395274

[shell nest]

pretty sure it was a huge issue that it was locked to a single thread or core for a long time and you could use a launch flag to force it but it make it unstable

[queen mango]

But back then, it didn't use mulitple cores correctly

[shell nest]

ah yeah I still haven't even tried the new one just came out today no?

[raven silo]

some people say it better but best way test go to 2017 unity world with people in VR

[gilded ferry]

Some people (some friends) are having issues getting online n some are perfectly fine, does this has to do with network connection or something????

[vocal shard]

People with old CPUs that don't support AVX aren't able to play anymore

[gilded ferry]

Oof

[raven silo]

does game crash?

[shell nest]

like how old are we talking

[gilded ferry]

I am online right now

[raven silo]

cpu has to be least amd FX 8350 and up

gpu gtx 970

[shell nest]

okay but what about intel

[vocal shard]

4th gen...

[gilded ferry]

I am not a high end chick so I do not think the standard would be that kind of high end thing to extreme numbers.

[vocal shard]

But i think some earlier work as well

[raven silo]

Intel® i5-4590 and up

[shell nest]

so should this help APU's perform better?

since most vr games worked fine on an APU but not VRChat

[gilded ferry]

I got an i7

Not sure why this is happening..

[raven silo]

well friend might really outdate pc

[shell nest]

I have upgrade to a Ryzen 2700 cause my A8 was so poor with VRChat and that's literally all I cared about with my VR gear

[gilded ferry]

I do not understand these things I swear.

[long venture]

that makes 2

[vocal shard]

I think you have a 4th gen kitty.

[calm turret]

Hello, my girlfriend does not open vrchat and we have done everything, check cache, install it again, etc. Can someone tell me any other suggestions to try? Thanks in advance. :z

[raven silo]

i7 should be fine

[shell nest]

i'm a tech girl, i've been into computers since I was 10 which... was back in dare I say it

'95

[raven silo]

when i was 10 it was win 3.1

[vocal shard]

@calm turret what the specs... Some changes happened and some aren't supported at the moment anymore

[shell nest]

yass that was my first OS on my first PC @raven silo

Intel 486DX with 16MB of RAM and a 520MB HDD and some voodoo gfx i can't remember which

[raven silo]

it just mean everyone oudate pc need save money for computer

[gilded ferry]

I know it should be fine, I just do not understand why I am getting issues, I am in game but nothing seems to show right away

[raven silo]

disconnect could be internet

[calm turret]

wait a minute ><

[trim star]

it took 8+ hours to upgrade smh

[neat dawn]

i got my mom to help and my computer has a good enough processor/cpu/whatever you call it

yay!

[gilded ferry]

My internet is fine

[raven silo]

best to learn about computer good skill to have

[gilded ferry]

Mkay mr.brain, what might be causing this issues?

[shell nest]

Learnt Computers Skill up x 1000

[vocal shard]

Maybe regional server issues?...
Idk.. just throwing stuff out there

[gilded ferry]

That is what I thought before

[raven silo]

well if disconnect alot could be vrchat server or could be your internet what speed get online? @gilded ferry http://www.speedtest.net/

[shell nest]

do a tracert to vrchats servers and find out if the connections dropping anywhere

[calm turret]

@vocal shard intel celeron N2940, 4gb ram and an NVIDIA laptop graphic that I do not remember the name, before it opened without problems :z

[shell nest]

I do not think that celeron has AVX

[gilded ferry]

I got 8mb of internet, yes I am that kind of poor, keep your ego away from my face, I got use to it n it runs surprisingly well in my end. So I just do not know why it is happening, before it was quick, now to change avatars or look through friends takes forever now

[shell nest]

8mb is really slow actually no ego

[raven silo]

could be lower 8mb

[gilded ferry]

Like I said, I got use to it, it is "fast" for me

[umbral oracle]

Sorry many celerons are missing avx @calm turret it's extremely unsupported akin to voiding your warranty but you can try deleing the oculusaudiospatializer dll in vrchat. Your sound will be messed up but it might start up. Or wait to see if they fix the incompatibility

[gilded ferry]

I had 2mb of internet before, THAT was a nightmare

[raven silo]

do you have your computer hook to ethernet not wifi

[shell nest]

if you can find out if your ISP offers new packages for the same price and upgrade to faster at least 15mb

[gilded ferry]

Wifi Mr.brain

[sweet sentinel]

is there a tutorial on how to update to the new unity and keep unity project or w/e

[raven silo]

@gilded ferry hook to ethernet cord make it more stable

[shell nest]

^

[languid beacon]

Deleting the outdated SDK is instantly re-importing it, making it impossible to remove in order to replace with the current version

[gilded ferry]

I will see if it is not a temporal deal because people are like that sometimes, take you as a fool to steal your money

[calm turret]

@umbral oracle the strange thing is that before I could play "acceptably", with the update left incompatible components?

[umbral oracle]

Yes they increased the minimum spec in this version (or rather the third party developers like that oculus plugin did)

[calm turret]

@umbral oracle So what do you recommend for me to start the game? :z

[gilded ferry]

I do not think I got an Ethernet cable that long mr.brain. n I do not want to be in the living room, I am drawing you the personal preference, even if Ethernet is best in any way but I do not like having too many cords on my way

[umbral oracle]

@sweet sentinel @languid beacon did you follow the steps here https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/migrating-from-56-to-20174

[raven silo]

@gilded ferry well i try to help

[umbral oracle]

@gilded ferry 802.11ac wifi is great. No problems with anything using that and it's about as fast as standard 1gbit ethernet in a not too crowded environment

[languid beacon]

Yes, as soon as I delete VRCSDK, it instantly redownloads it

Step 7

[umbral oracle]

Close unity first

[languid beacon]

Ah ok

[umbral oracle]

Don't try to delete the sdk with unity open

[gilded ferry]

I know, thank you for trying Mr.brain

[languid beacon]

Duh , oops it always had worked before but yeah

[queen mango]

Who's Mr. Brain?

[vocal shard]

Jaz

[shell nest]

@gilded ferry get a better wifi card/router

[queen mango]

Ah.

[raven silo]

anyone with better computer skill lol

[umbral oracle]

a.k.a. Brianiac derp

[shell nest]

< did pass my Computer/Network Technician College course back in '05 so I would say i'm decent with computers

[raven silo]

i just do for hobby lol

[gilded ferry]

I clearly said, I am not a high end girl, I do not win $11.25, $20 an hour, I only win 7.25 in my region, n most of the money I win is gone in bills, food n medicine

[raven silo]

i only get $10.50 a hour

[gilded ferry]

Lucky.

[ivory sage]

i wish i got $10.50 an hour

[quiet river]

@gilded ferry win?

[shell nest]

@gilded ferry what do you want me to say either upgrade, go to a store get a 50-10 ft ethernet calbe for <$20 or deal with it?

@quiet river I wish you were the real Frankie

[vocal shard]

Does this update delete all my old avatars ?

[raven silo]

i have to agree with @shell nest

[quiet river]

Same

[umbral oracle]

You have to budget what you need and find affordable ways to do it. You should identify if any of your hardware supports at least 802.11n (something probably does). That should be attainable for $20 or less

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard no

[quiet river]

Just because wage is higher some here else doesn't mean you are better off you probably have higher bills and expenses.

[gilded ferry]

Zen, I am not triggered by the wifi issue because it is not the wifi, if it were the wifi, I'd be disconnecting every five seconds in VRChat or in my phone where I am speaking to everyone.

[vocal shard]

oh ok lol would of been a hassle.

is it me or am i getting internal server error?

Kitty has been playing for months with her settup... I think she was just asking if there was anything specifically that would cause disconnects right now

[ivory sage]

btw i heard of something or someone on vrchat leaking IPs. anyone know anything?

[shell nest]

yeah the new system could be more resource hungry on bandwidth

which would be slow internet or old wifi tech could be an issue

[gilded ferry]

And for your information, my router is recent so. WiFi is NOT an issue with me

[shell nest]

your router is but is your wifi adapter in your lappy

[gilded ferry]

I meant the router wops

[raven silo]

vrchat might need more bandwidth now because 2017 unity networking

most problem disconnect happen from wifi signal in vrchat

[gilded ferry]

Wait. Okay I misread that, what do you mean about wifi adapter?

[vocal shard]

yo guys what is this internal server error

[quiet river]

@ivory sage haven't heard about that but that's why you should have a vpn

[raven silo]

@vocal shard ask in #user-support-old

[shell nest]

@gilded ferry inside your lappy there is a PCI-e WIFI card that can usually be replaced (depending on the manufacturer) if it's old or dying you might need a new one

[gilded ferry]

Lenovo

But I was unaware of this information

[shell nest]

that might work, afaik HP doesn't let you upgrade the WiFi cards but Lenovo might

[gilded ferry]

Ew HP brand

[vocal shard]

[umbral oracle]

@ivory sage Ip leaking rumors are all unsubstantiated. Connecting directly to user ips would be highly inefficient in large rooms because of the all-to-all problem so vrchat certainly uses a server to facilitate room communication rather than peer to peer

[vocal shard]

never had an hp that lasted...

[shell nest]

I have both of them AMD APU's both 6+ years old going strong

[gilded ferry]

Maybe because you fix it a couple of times?

[shell nest]

@umbral oracle @ivory sage @quiet river AFAIK they use AWS for their services so when we connect to VRChat we are essentially using Amazon servers so there's no P2P

@gilded ferry nah i just upgraded them to SSD's like you should with ANY laptop that is SATA and supports AHCI

[gilded ferry]

You're talking alien to a woman

[shell nest]

I am a woman

[raven silo]

i use to have HP Pavilion Slimline when i was 20 lol

[quiet river]

People assume you can see ips when you can just read their location they provided on their steam account,probably where the ip rumor came from. @shell nest

[shell nest]

SSD - Solid State Drive (a non-moving hard drive for storage 10x+ faster than standard mechanical drives)

[languid beacon]

New people trying out VRChat for the first time on Oculus Store: "Wow, all of these avatars/worlds are broken."

[gilded ferry]

N where I can find that dear?

[raven silo]

because people need update them

[vocal shard]

Oh damn... You're right Adeon..

[shell nest]

@languid beacon VRchat is on the Oculus store again?

[raven silo]

if dont update vrchat be take them down

[languid beacon]

Yes

[vocal shard]

Yeah that was their suprise

[shell nest]

@gilded ferry I assume you're murican so at a fry's?

[languid beacon]

If you have an Oculus, it actually runs better than Steam

[umbral oracle]

Did they at least fix the mirror in home? That one tiny mirror was what sold me on vrchat

[gilded ferry]

I live in Puerto Rico. So somewhat yeah

[languid beacon]

What mirror?

[raven silo]

@umbral oracle need update with 2017 mirror

[long venture]

some of my world broke some didnt
I'm confused

[raven silo]

lighting different in 2017 unity

[long venture]

they only broke my panorama shader

[raven silo]

well have to update that 2017

[umbral oracle]

Some world authors already uploaded fixed worlds. Many worlds actually work almost perfectly. Some got broken but it's pretty incredible how much unity was able to keep compatible with 5.6

[vocal shard]

They worked hard ^^

[gilded ferry]

I can not understand what you mean at a Fry's.

[umbral oracle]

Haha it's a electronics chain on the west coast I think

Poor place is practically empty these days. Counting days until they go out of business

[gilded ferry]

No wonder why I am not familiarized, some US stores are not available here

[raven silo]

were you from

[gilded ferry]

I just said where I am from Mr.brain

Puerto Rico

[languid beacon]

Does anyone know if you can use Desktop mode on Oculus Home? Silly, I know

[raven silo]

@gilded ferry could be distance as well

[sterile drift]

I doubt it

[shell nest]

<@&378256373701410817> Thank you for getting VRChat back on Oculus Store.

[sterile drift]

It's kinda weird to ask that question

[languid beacon]

Please don't ping the AAAAAAAAAAAA

[shell nest]

[sterile drift]

[raven silo]

i dont think be mad for thank you lol

[indigo fern]

[floral fox]

aye so i tried to open vrchat and it just wont run what happening

[umbral oracle]

Make a shortcut to vrchat.exe and add --no-vr

[raven silo]

@floral fox what your cpu

[shell nest]

@floral fox if your CPU doesn't have AVX you sol for now

[vocal shard]

They've gotten enough pings today.. i think a thank you is fine ^^

[floral fox]

.-.

[indigo fern]

@vocal shard pings?

[shell nest]

@indigo fern this is a ping

[languid beacon]

@indigo fern This is a ping

[raven silo]

anything lower amd fx 8350 wont work anymore

[indigo fern]

Fug

[shell nest]

JINX @languid beacon

[vocal shard]

Asked for it N8 ;P

[indigo fern]

You owe him a soda now

[shell nest]

you now owe me a custom avatar for the Jinx

[languid beacon]

Nope i knocked on wood

[shell nest]

damn it!

[gilded ferry]

Again Mr brain, I was just fine, Jamie is witness of my presence in VRChat most of the time

[grand zealot]

Anyone know why my mirror shader is suddenly broken?

[gilded ferry]

Now it just poop, hopefully they do a hotfix as soon as they can for those who are having these issues

[shell nest]

@grand zealot did you read any of the patch notes?

[vocal shard]

As with any update, the first week is the worst

[grand zealot]

I'm talking about Unity.

http://puu.sh/CgiUq/90aa7a5cb7.png The shader itself is having issues loading; not sure if the SDK broke or something.

[umbral oracle]

@grand zealot world or avatar? Using a camera/ render texture or grab pass?

[shell nest]

did you get your shader ready for unity 2017 or just assume it'll work out of box

[grand zealot]

I'm literally using basic VRCMirror

[umbral oracle]

Oh that you need to download a shader called FX/MirrorReflection

[shell nest]

did you try reinstalling the SDK?

[raven silo]

vrchat mirro allway been with no shader when upload it show up

[umbral oracle]

It will work fine ingame anyway, don't need that unless you want to preview it

[grand zealot]

I'm sorry, but where do I download that? @umbral oracle

[floral fox]

ya what is AVX

[umbral oracle]

AVX is a cpu extension.

[floral fox]

"Advanced Vector Extensions"?

[shell nest]

Advanced Vector Extensions

[floral fox]

what do they mean

[shell nest]

it's for Vector graphics.

[raven silo]

@floral fox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions

[shell nest]

AMD APU AVX

just wanted to say that.

[floral fox]

what are vector graphics exactly

[vast tulip]

How's everyone doing? Any issues?

[shell nest]

Vector graphics is the creation of digital images through a sequence of commands or mathematical statements that place lines and shapes in a given two-dimensional or three-dimensional space. In physics, a vector is a representation of both a quantity and a direction at the same time.

[raven silo]

@floral fox It just mean unity need it now. if dont have on cpu

[vast tulip]

With upgrading I mean

[torn nebula]

Vector operations aren't the same as vector graphics. Mostly AVX means the CPU can do multiple operations at the same time. Eg, multiplying all the elements in a vector by a scalar in a single instruction

[raven silo]

@vast tulip some people with outdate cpu cant play vrchat anymore

[floral fox]

does it have to do with the body tracking and all?

[shell nest]

no

[vast tulip]

That's expected probably

[shell nest]

well maybe in a roundabout way but no even if you don't use VR you can not play VRChat now

[floral fox]

so its just plain graphics or..?

[safe prism]

tl;dr: improved particle/physics math via CPU instructions 5 year old PCs should have

[vast tulip]

I'm surprised they could play to begin with. It's this the 32bit issue?

[torn nebula]

There's been a few iterations of vector instructions over the years, with the various SSE extensions coming first. AVX adds larger vector registers allowing more operations to be done at once. There's probably not a specific feature it's used for, but rather optimizing various things deep in unity.

[floral fox]

so it helps the processor?

[idle cipher]

oh my god my eyes feels so good with this upgrade

[gilded ferry]

Hnnnnnn I just hope they update VRChat again

[torn nebula]

It lets unity make more efficient use of the processor's capabilities

[floral fox]

i see..

[raven silo]

@floral fox basic need get cpu with muitprocessng

[torn nebula]

You can do the same things without AVX, but more slowly

[errant merlin]

What's the point of launching with Unity Hub if I cannot drag stuff between one version of Unity into the other within my hierarchy 🤷

[floral fox]

like a dual core processor?

[raven silo]

quad core

[gilded ferry]

I know right? But I feel bad for those who can not travel around or seen a friend waiting for the stupid menu to show them @idle cipher

[shell nest]

so while you might not see fps gains you will get performance gains

[floral fox]

:(((((((

[raven silo]

best save up money for better computer

[torn nebula]

AVX happens within a single core, so dual/quad/whatever core is not necessarily relevant. Though it's probably pretty hard to find a single core CPU with AVX capabilities

[floral fox]

it rly do be like that sometimes

so is it software or hardware?

[torn nebula]

It's theoretically possible to maintain a non-AVX version of the code but it's a lot of work to keep both versions up to date, and make sure you test both versions, etc. I imagine the unity upgrade just retired some of the ancient hardware fallbacks

[grand zealot]

Does anyone have the files for the mirror reflection shader? I don't think mine imported correctly.

[torn nebula]

AVX is a feature of the CPU itself, the physical chip. @floral fox

[floral fox]

i see

my mother board and processor are pretty old rip

[raven silo]

@floral fox here list pc at $500 https://www.amazon.com/s/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_four_bro_2?fst=as%3Aoff%2Cp90x%3A1&rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A541966%2Cn%3A13896617011%2Cn%3A565098%2Cn%3A13896597011%2Ck%3Agaming+pc%2Cp_n_feature_fourteen_browse-bin%3A2057441011%2Cp_36%3A2421881011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A6789588011|2289793011&keywords=gaming+pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1544587680&rnid=676578011

[languid beacon]

hey guys ever since the update VRChat instantly closes itself when I launch it

[floral fox]

i just need a computer with modern specs

[raven silo]

@languid beacon what your cpu?

[floral fox]

because i already have a good graphics card

[raven silo]

@floral fox with i5 or amd fx 8350 better get better computer last longer

[languid beacon]

@raven silo I'm attempting to launch VRChat, it shows in the task manager for a second and disappears. I have tried rebooting, reinstalling, clearing cache, clearing registry, and using shift to get the Unity menu. Currently VRChat is not even making any log files. My system is a Windows 10 Pro with an Intel Xeon 5150(2x)@2.66 GHz CPU, 32 Gigs of RAM and an NVidia 560 GTX. VRChat did run before the update in Desktop mode.

[floral fox]

its really just my processor and motherboard that are p old

[raven silo]

do you know how to build a pc @floral fox

[ember forum]

server cpu 🤔

[floral fox]

kinda i think

[raven silo]

@floral fox https://pcpartpicker.com/

[floral fox]

i might know how certain parts work but im not certain where imputs would go and what not

[raven silo]

best to watch alot video on put computer togther if never did before lol

[covert chasm]

@languid beacon The Intel Xeon 5150 does not support the AVX instruction set, which is now required to run VRChat. See the new info in #vrchat-support .

[raven silo]

@languid beacon i dont know if xeon have AVX

[covert linden]

Ok my boyfriend has an avatar thats no longer in a world and he loves it a lot but he needs to upgrade his account, but it always wipes every single avatar and world, is there anything he can do to upgrade but not have it wiped?

[languid beacon]

Owch. Thanks tho Tupper, thankfully it's not my VR PC

[floral fox]

gtx 1050 ti graphics card is good right?

[raven silo]

yea there good

[gilded ferry]

Hello Tupper, mind if I ask if you guys will do a hotfix as soon as you guys can?

[vocal shard]

For vr its good enough

[gilded ferry]

Damn I missed him

[floral fox]

is it my processor thats the problem?

[raven silo]

yea

[floral fox]

oh yea and i have 4 gb memory

[raven silo]

better going higher then amd fx cpu

i would suggest get 16gb memory

[vocal shard]

k so i have a question

[gilded ferry]

8gb ram is enough to run VRChat right?

[floral fox]

rip

[umbral oracle]

You should consider an upgrade really. Cpu is critical to vrchat performance

[vocal shard]

do i uninstall unity 5.6.3

[floral fox]

so ive seen

[raven silo]

window 10 all ready take alot memory

[vocal shard]

and does my projects carry over to this new version of unity

[umbral oracle]

You likely won't need it again though I'm keeping it and an old copy of my project as a reference in case something breaks

[raven silo]

best get higher memory because give better perofmance for your cpu

there some program get memory leak

[floral fox]

so any modern mother board would do good for an i5 right?

[raven silo]

what your motherboard

[floral fox]

hhmm

[torn nebula]

@floral fox you need to make sure the socket matches exactly. Pcpartpicker can filter to compatible mobos

[floral fox]

how do i check

[covert linden]

It tells you

[ember forum]

you compare motherboard socket and cpu socket

[floral fox]

so even then modern boards vary?

[torn nebula]

Yes. Intel vs AMD, server vs desktop, and different generations of CPU socket

[raven silo]

@floral fox https://i.gyazo.com/4fcb67accd7529494a8c35cbd6d7b8cc.png

[floral fox]

that would be adequate right?

[torn nebula]

Note that if you are thinking of going for the Vive at some point, the wireless card isn't compatible with amd CPUs apparently

[raven silo]

intel cost way more

[floral fox]

ok

so at least 4 core would be enough right?

[vocal shard]

i swear to god if i have to redo all my unity projects im going to have a cow

they better transfer to the new version

They tried the best they could

[raven silo]

yea some stuff need to fix part develope world

[floral fox]

weeding out the peasants i see tsk tsk

[raven silo]

nah vrchat need update to 2017 because 5.6 lost support

[umbral oracle]

Don't panic. If something comes up ask here. Be persistent. Expect it to take a couple hours to get through things and get through errors that come up

[ember forum]

ah, and I was about to panic

[vocal shard]

I usually consider the first few days after an update as troubleshooting time... Then they release a patch.. like they always do

i just dont wanna reimport 50 models man. all the bone working. all the animations...

The game always reacts differently on live servers than controlled in the beta

so many restless nights..

[floral fox]

so am i still just screwed with this pc?

[obsidian pagoda]

my currently uploaded models all working fine, haven't reuploaded any

[ember forum]

it probably wont take as much work as you think

[vocal shard]

Even if you did, all you need to do is just reupload the model. No need to set the bones and things

oh god well thats one improvment

my shit is like in the game. its more smoother frames?

[obsidian pagoda]

i think that's part of it

[raven silo]

@vocal shard just need reupload for avatar then start work again

[obsidian pagoda]

i think what it really is mouse movement has been improved a lot as to not feel as juttery with movements, since it used to move in like blocks, but now it's a lot more natural

[umbral oracle]

@floral fox The dll workaround posted in #user-support-old is your only hope if you can't get a new pc. But don't expect anything to work, no support no warranty

[idle cipher]

huh it's telling me to update again to 2017.4.17f1 LTS when i upgraded to 2017.4.15f1 do i update it to that or stay?

[floral fox]

what does it do

[vocal shard]

my avatars seem to be working fine

its the unity project im worried about though

Don't update

[languid beacon]

How can I use OculusSDK mode on the Steam version?

[vocal shard]

Stay on .15f1

[idle cipher]

oh ok

[umbral oracle]

given they support oculus store now you could try from there to avoid steam

[languid beacon]

I want Steam stats :p

[umbral oracle]

You gotta choose a world to live in

[languid beacon]

and i use hybrid tracking with vive trackers

[vocal shard]

ahhh but they didnt fix the damn idle animation glitch i talked about so much with custom idle animations when crouching

[floral fox]

ok well thanks the info all of u guys, ig i'll look into it

[languid beacon]

no need to choose

[vocal shard]

annnnnddd capsule colliders are still broken too

[merry canyon]

i love verizon
my internet is currently dying therefore i cannot go on vrchat and see all my friends
verizon is a good ISP.

[vocal shard]

the only difference im noticing is a smoother framerate

[queen mango]

That's because the default refresh rate is bumped up to 60Hz.

Either that or the frametime has been fixed.

[vocal shard]

There isn't too much for us right now... The big changes are for the support of the game. Because the old unity was being left behind for support

NOOOOO MY WINGS DONT WORK

Reupload the model

[thorn ledge]

Can't start VRChat in desktop or VR (vive). On Windows 7. Running Windows updates and hope that fixes it... I press Play in steam, select desktop, then is says running, then just stops quietly.

[vocal shard]

ughhhhhhh i better see that project file in the new unity version

Rotation animation will need to be re uploaded in unity 2017

[obsidian pagoda]

my animations still work 8)

[raven silo]

if you have 20gb of data in project might take while update in 2017 unity

[vocal shard]

my biggest project is about 5-7 gbs

cause i save space by placing all my avatars in one project

[raven silo]

i just going make new project drag avatar want from old file lol

i have 20gb lol

[vocal shard]

just waiting on the thing to finish installing

I'm waiting for my file to finally import

[raven silo]

how big was your project folder lol

[vocal shard]

11gb on an SSD. It just finished and it took 40 minutes

[stoic halo]

no loading screen haha yeet.

[simple ibex]

This update is trash

[stoic halo]

yeah im just getting infinite loading screens repeatedly.

[simple ibex]

I can't even change my mic ig

[vocal shard]

Trash because of a mic bug?

just log out and set the default mic to what you usually use, then launch it again. easy fix and not a huge issue

[rough flax]

@simple ibex Goo luck finding a better game

[simple ibex]

I did

Its Super Smash Bros

[vocal shard]

Atta boy, I got all 70 characters by the time the weekend was over

[unkempt cliff]

I did all of them on the day it released with my girlfriend. It was fun.

[molten hornet]

servers down?

[vocal shard]

I wanted to hop online, so I just screwed around for a bit before I started grinding

[unkempt cliff]

But it took a while. Ended up cheesing it during the middle and then back to normal

[vocal shard]

Then I started grinding it along with checking out the rest of the game

[zinc solar]

Welp nobody on VRChat so I came here to poke of some peoples poor life choices.

So how's everyone doing?

[idle cipher]

god dammit im stuck on the loading screen

[vocal shard]

I'm good at least. Just having to wait for all of this stuff to finish its importing

then the fun of re uploading begins

[ornate garnet]

Hmm

Been stuck on loading screen for a couple minutes oof

[molten hornet]

So alot of users are currently getting stuck on loading screens , try to avoid changing worlds or logging out cause u cant log back in currently :). They're aware and working on a fix as we speak so be patient. ^_^

[vocal shard]

probably another ddos attack, or just so many people trying to update everything it's bogging the servers down

[weary bison]

yeah it's being checked out

[idle cipher]

ok nvm i'm some how fine

[vocal shard]

yay! Noe lol

[weary bison]

🐈

[vocal shard]

😁

[molten hornet]

Noe my kawaii profile pic vs yours who wins 😮

probably u

[weary bison]

always bet on the neko

[vocal shard]

niko niko kneecaps

[molten hornet]

If i was a betting man I'd bet on me but i always lose bets so i aint a betting man

[weary bison]

I just tried hopping around a bit, not getting any loading issues

[molten hornet]

hmm ill relaunch

maybe they fixed already

[languid beacon]

Is it possible to run VRC with OculusSDK on the steam version?

via command parameter

[molten hornet]

@weary bison seems to be working for now

[weary bison]

👌

[molten hornet]

nvm spoke too soon

[queen mango]

🤔

[molten hornet]

tried loading into "the Box" infinite loading screen

[queen mango]

You tried restarting?

[molten hornet]

4 times 😄

[vocal shard]

k its reimporting right now

[whole lodge]

If you change worlds or try to login, high chance of infinite loading

[molten hornet]

yep

of course my default home is persnation room and there no mirror xD

rip

[queen mango]

No mirrors! 👀

[zinc solar]

Soooo

Anyone ever seen these Easter eggs in maps?

[rich hare]

Ok, for odd reasons... Whenever I hop to a public world, I get stuck in the same ol' logo and upgrade your devices screen, then into a teleport loop....

Idk... Just, idk (v-w-)

[light saddle]

Yup

[frigid tulip]

vrchat down again REEE

[tacit bear]

real quick VRChat down or is that just me?

[frigid tulip]

nope it just loading for days

rip vrchat

[neat dawn]

dang it

i’m getting that too

[tacit bear]

cant load into any worlds 🤔'

[white vale]

Vr chat not working its broken again

[weary bison]

I'm getting it too

[white vale]

I get an infinite load and it always loads me into empty lobby's. After clearing cache it no longer loads any worlds except for home world

[weary bison]

it's being investigated

[neat dawn]

unepic :(

[graceful hare]

not working!!

I can't login

[weary bison]

yep

[frigid tulip]

ok i got in now weird

[graceful hare]

now is open!

[neat dawn]

just does loading screen then when finished loading it’s a black screen and then it takes me back to the loading screen

[graceful hare]

I can login now

oh wait when i go home loding again

[queen mango]

Oh, hello there.

[graceful hare]

I can click go butten but is not working

[queen mango]

I saw that 👀

[vocal shard]

alright the thing ported

im happy

[tacit bear]

Now its slightly better

[oak trench]

hey @weary bison ! dumb question, but where's the best place to communicate VRChat bugs on the new client release?

[vocal shard]

should i just get rid of the old version

[weary bison]

definitely Canny

surprisingly not THAT many posts today despite the big release

[queen mango]

Maybe they're trying to digest the fact that VRChat runs at 60fps now, heh.

Or 60Hz

[vocal shard]

for me

it says 90 fps

[ember forum]

vr 90