vrchat-general-2

[hoary ridge]

Vrchat BATTLE ROYAL

[vocal shard]

psvr looool dream on

[inner cape]

We're annoucing VRChat on mobile!

[vocal shard]

Console plebs can't handle the sheer amount of weirdness that comes out of this

[umbral reef]

@weary bison inb4 all mods get replaced by ai 👀

[winged igloo]

VRChat for the Nintendo Switch

[hoary ridge]

Nintendo Labo

[shy nest]

when can i play vrchat with alexa

[winged igloo]

YES

[fading osprey]

Mr. Whiskers has re-enabled chairs, and its up to you to not stop him

[dire dragon]

VRChat Immortal Battle Royale on the Switch

[vocal shard]

You mean VR PowerPoint for teh Switch

[weary bison]

that happened long ago, advert was the last human

[fresh merlin]

new surprise desktop users can use hands with numpad

[tidal aspen]

nintendo labo robot support for VRchat

[vocal shard]

Isn't Snep a human? I remember him from TwitchCon

[inner cape]

but advert is gone crab rave

[shy nest]

🦀

[rain stump]

Think about it tho, the sideways blue oval looks like a psvr. And we already have pc/ps cross platform games like rec room out there

[vocal shard]

🦀 Lag is gone 🦀

[floral aspen]

and there it is

[vocal shard]

AHAHHHHHHHH PINGGGGGGGGGG DROP

ah so that was the surprise

[umbral reef]

Double ping

[winged igloo]

the Sideways portal also looks like sideways portal, hence.... FLOORTALS

[fresh merlin]

okay so that was in fact the surprise

[vocal shard]

Brace for impact

[inner cape]

I told you guys, fuck this shit

[alpine cove]

:o oculus store version

[fading osprey]

NOOOOOO

[fresh merlin]

don't worry guys chairs coming out in 2019 September

[vocal shard]

wait guys we dont have to use steamvr anymore?

[median basalt]

Oculus. I told you so

[shy nest]

mmm no need to go through shitty steamvr

[alpine cove]

maybe i can actually get some better performance now, not having to run through Oculus + SteamVR

[stiff tree]

Bless

[halcyon kestrel]

has VRChat always been on Oculus store?

[winged igloo]

OCULUS STORE BOIS LETS GO

[hoary ridge]

That was very soon

[floral aspen]

no more steamvr! 😄

[inner cape]

I told you lads

[floral aspen]

as did I

[carmine sonnet]

the game is smooth as fuck

[brave palm]

Just need vrchat on ps4 now

[fresh merlin]

lowkey i hope there will be a surprise for christmas tho

[winged igloo]

I'm still holding out for Floortals

[umbral reef]

Its a shitty surprise as an vive player 👀

[floral aspen]

PS4 would catch on fire if it tired to run VRChat

[shy nest]

wait, 2017 means no single core bullshit right

[halcyon kestrel]

Um boi

[vocal shard]

Now I need to link my Steam and VRChat accounts that way if I do switch to the VIve, I can use Steam to log on

[latent cradle]

So wait can we connect the occulus account if its already connected via steam?

[hoary ridge]

Sorry nerd but Windows Mixed Reality player here

[fresh merlin]

nope @shy nest the single core bullshit continues

[shy nest]

frick

[stiff tree]

VRchat Intel atom exclusive

[inner cape]

Music stops playing
But there's more

[floral aspen]

vrchat isn't single core

[vocal shard]

[shy nest]

it basically was

[vocal shard]

Revive to play vrchat oculus client XD

[fading osprey]

VRchat now supports Intel Celeron(tm)

[errant merlin]

So is the entire game engine updated? Because that update downloaded very quickly, almost feels underwhelming but I'll have to launch it to check out the performance I guess

[vocal shard]

™

[severe adder]

Do anyone know if there is any change for WMR users?

[latent cradle]

Accurian I mean you dint have to deal with steam backend running atleast

[fading osprey]

For real though been using the beta of VRC and this is a very welcome update.

[vocal shard]

Wmr is still the same as before

[polar rose]

can oculus users still play through steamVR?

[floral aspen]

yes

[fading osprey]

Go explore worlds before they're updated for a special adventure

[rain stump]

Using more than one cpu core

[severe adder]

@vocal shard Thanks

[inner cape]

wmr users be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ

[pearl stag]

Is it me or is desktop mode a lot smoother looking?

[rigid crescent]

LOL GHOSTO

[vocal shard]

Desktop mode

[covert chasm]

@rain stump We used more than one core in 5.6 🤔

[floral aspen]

^

[inner cape]

Gottem

[regal folio]

I was fearing this

[vocal shard]

@inner cape XD love it

[severe adder]

@inner cape Soo true

[polar elm]

Rip old worlds

[rigid crescent]

Can you explain why 90FPS in VR on 2017 feels so much smoother than 90FPS on the old live?

[regal folio]

Tupper you absolute horrible people you destroyed the doublejump things and killed parkour maps

[inner cape]

double jump?

[vocal shard]

Now i no longer have to faff around with steam vr.

[tidal aspen]

It might have to do with the turning thing they mentioned

[halcyon kestrel]

https://www.oculus.com/deeplink/?action=view&path=app/997678176960598&ref=oculus_desktop

[regal folio]

You can't spam space and super/double jump anymore how could you do this to us

[floral aspen]

didn't they change it so turning and stuff isn't tied to framerate anymore? That may have something to do with it

[alpine cove]

might actually be able to get 90 fps in some worlds not having to run through Oculus + SteamVR lol

[rigid crescent]

Well it isn't just while turning, I mean in general. Things feel significantly smoother despite running at the same FPS as before.

[inner cape]

Lemme guess, you can also bunny hop in vrc?

[shy nest]

phoon in vrchat pog

[twin jacinth]

First thing i noticed was how much smoother the game runs, it's pretty nice.

[regal folio]

Yes

[rigid crescent]

Just seeing things move and whatnot in general

[rain stump]

I need a new computer anyway, my 1060 s been chugging along for a year now

[tidal aspen]

turning as in headmovement

[brisk radish]

I SO SO SO SO SO WANT AN OCULUS NOW

[regal folio]

You used to be able to bunny hop but they just ruined that >:'c

[shy nest]

why tho

[regal folio]

They ruined it!!!!! DX< My favorite mini games :'(

[inner cape]

now wait for oculus 2.0 with native fbt and vive will be obsolete

[fresh merlin]

but facebook removed funding?or is that a fake new as well?

[rain stump]

new update: directional air dodge for desktop users

[floral aspen]

gonna be waiting 4 or 5 more years for that ghosto 😢

[brisk radish]

Now we just need vrchat on oculus quest when that arrives

[shy nest]

facebook giving a shit about high end pcvr
nice meme

[indigo yacht]

Could someone define what this oculus store release means other than i wont be seeing nice played time on my steam version?

[fresh merlin]

no steamvr needed

[shy nest]

no steamvr bloatware

[hearty wyvern]

Finally!

[alpine cove]

you won't have to run the game through two different VR programs

[floral aspen]

it means you won't have to run steamvr on top of the oculus runtime

[candid acorn]

Does the new unity version download work for Windows 7. Actually unironically and unsatirically asking for a friend

[vocal shard]

@rain stump You mean we can use DAD?

[alpine cove]

which will probably mean better performance on Rift

[floral aspen]

steamvr added a bunch of extra overhead for rift users due to having to run both at the same time

[vivid umbra]

Thank heck for them putting it on the oculus store. It’s going to run soooo much better

[umbral reef]

@candid acorn I think it still does right now but if you use VR push for windows 10 as windows 7 wont be supported for long at all...

[indigo yacht]

Hmm well seems kinda pointless to me when my pc can handle both steam vr and oculus on same time and soon switching for vive

[shy nest]

fairly certain oculus has dropped win 7 and win 10 is pretty much a requirement for the rift now

[rain stump]

Plug your gamecube adapter into the top of your vive to unlock advanced vrchat techniques

[halcyon kestrel]

Im happy that VRChat is now on Oculus Store

[alpine cove]

SteamVR also doesn't like the Rift sometimes, just randomly

[fresh merlin]

soo

[indigo yacht]

But then again it must be nice for people with more low end pc

[alpine cove]

i mean, i don't have a low end pc and the performance hit is still noticeable

[regal folio]

This is one of those instances where unintended features being killed actually makes things less fun

[royal pond]

@candid acorn yes the new unity still has support for windows 7, works perfectly

[vivid umbra]

Trying to do anything oculus related while playing VRChat through steamvr kills everything for me lmao

[alpine cove]

compared to when i run games on the oculus store only

[regal folio]

Reeeeee

[vocal shard]

Wavedashing and Wavelanding in VRChat LUL

[fresh merlin]

I'm ordering VR today, but should i get Vive, Rift, or Samsung Odyssey(plus?) 🤔 i still couldn't decide can you guys with vr experience help me ?

[vocal shard]

It's different for everyone

[hearty wyvern]

Samsung

[floral aspen]

I'd choose either the Rift or the Vive

[indigo yacht]

Tho i would be curious to see how big performance increase is with vrc launched from oculus vs steam vr

[calm rock]

Vive for quality, rift for price

[halcyon kestrel]

VRChat is now on IPhone

[vocal shard]

For me, I can't go back to the rift aftsr using the Odyssey+

[rain stump]

My

[alpine cove]

same Rez, Oculus store + new update which apparently makes things smoother anyway

[calm rock]

Never heard of odyssey+ :S

[civic wigeon]

That new trailer is pretty good 👌

[hearty wyvern]

Samsung for the same thing as the vive, exceot it looks cooler

[sudden lantern]

RIft if you like multi-tasking, odyssey for visuals.

[rain stump]

My philosophy is always Rift if you wanna sit at your desk, Vive if you have a big room to stand in

[vocal shard]

plus WMR has FBT

[light wedge]

very cool trailer

[sudden lantern]

Vive for platform compliance

[shy nest]

vive for fbt and better tracking but shit controllers uses steamvr. rift for a little shitter tracking than vive, better controllers and oculussdk. and just dont get wmr

[winged igloo]

The trailer was sooo 👌 I'm not even salty I got cut lol

[vocal shard]

What? Wmr doesn't have native fbt.. @vocal shard

[midnight steeple]

oii me being dumb, when in vrchat it wont let me change mic only from windows setting when launch? someone help where that is? ty

[vocal shard]

Ohhh

[indigo yacht]

Im just doubting performance increase if youre in same world with same people who happend to be using heavily dynamic boned or less optimized avatars

[fresh merlin]

well vive might get knuckles controllers soon ™ i guess

[rain stump]

The new trailer was so good

[vocal shard]

Uhhhh

[polar bone]

What significant changes come from the unity update?

[winged igloo]

and no spelling errors! Great improvement!

[shy nest]

valve releasing anything ever in this century
ok nice meme

[fresh merlin]

i just don't know if it's worth it to buy vive now since it's i think 2 years old already

[vocal shard]

Rift for middle ground, vive for upgrade path, odyssey+ for visuals and fov

[hearty wyvern]

Knuckles are coming out bundled with the Valve headset so you coukd also wait a few years for that

[civic wigeon]

Lots of community members in it too

[light wedge]

hello

[vocal shard]

Half Life 3 will release never with the Knuckles

[fresh merlin]

what if i can't get odyssey+ only the normal version?

[civic wigeon]

Hopefully some info on the Valve HMD at GDC

[hearty wyvern]

^

[carmine sonnet]

lol ban steam account hell no

[vocal shard]

The normal version has the vive pro screens

[winged igloo]

It was entirely community members, just people couldn't use models that used other people's IP, so you might not have recognised them as they would be using a more generic VRChat owned avatar

[fresh merlin]

is the tracking really bad though? if let's say i wanna play fighting games or shooter games

[hearty wyvern]

Rift has perfect tracking

[fresh merlin]

i mean samsung odyssey

[vocal shard]

Not bad. You can play anything. Some things like bow and arrow you need to adjust, but you can still reach behind you and stuff like that

[fresh merlin]

i don't really wanna get rift cause of facebook

[raven silo]

people can download rift verison want remove it from steam if have oculus rift

[hearty wyvern]

Ye. Wmr needs to put a cam on the headstrap lolol

[raven silo]

new wmr need 4 camera

[vocal shard]

@fresh merlin https://youtu.be/8nuYn8UxOPY

[median basalt]

@fresh merlin Oculus is the best headset right now IMO

[winged igloo]

I have a rift and keep forgetting it's owned by FB

[civic wigeon]

Yikes

[median basalt]

"Vive for quality" is kind of a joke considering the controllers that come with it. They're pretty bad

[winged igloo]

Very good headset though for the price

[fresh merlin]

it's so hard to decide ._.

[alpine cove]

i love my rift, i'm just sad the full body upgrade routes for rift are either not that great, or very expensive

[median basalt]

The vive controllers alone made me get an Oculus instead. The only downside seems to be that it's harder or more expensive to get proper full body tracking

[winged igloo]

Oculus controllers are currently unrivalled IMO

[vocal shard]

Vive for long term investment, it's gonna cost a lot.

[raven silo]

mircosoft should try figure out how to add 2 camera back of the head lol

[languid beacon]

I’d love to use OculusSDK but then steam won’t log my game time or show my friends I’m playing 😦

[civic wigeon]

Agree with that Oculus sitting, Vive room scale comment

[alpine cove]

i can live without full body though since i'd literally only use it for vrchat anyway

[floral aspen]

everyone I know that has a Vive has had to replace at least one controller at some point because of shoddy build quality

[alpine cove]

even if it does make cuddling with people harder, not having full body. xd

[vocal shard]

Rift for general other VR use, quality is

[winged igloo]

I've also found Oculus to work fine in a roomscale, but not really tried a vive on a large scale to compare

[languid beacon]

Oculus is great for roomscale tho I use 3 sensors (1 in each corner, ignore their bad setup warning, works great)

[empty wharf]

[vocal shard]

VEINNNNNNNN ME MAN

[fresh merlin]

well i have a playspace max 4*2,5 metres. idk if that is too much for oculus

[floral aspen]

Vive has better tracking on paper, but when you're in game the difference isn't noticeable

[alpine cove]

my only issue with the Rift is that sometimes it won't actually turn on, i'll put the headset on and get audio but the screen stays black, have to reboot the driver completely.

[languid beacon]

My playspace is 5m x 3.5m it’s fine on oculus

[civic wigeon]

I’m beyond the 5x5 Vive limit and it works fine

[umbral reef]

@winged igloo Vive works perfect pretty much in big spaces

[vocal shard]

basically why i love with the Odyssey+ after using it
https://i2.wp.com/mrtv.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/comparison-full-current.png

Damn, the Odyssey+ is cleannnnn

[fresh merlin]

the rift doesn't look that good there?

[civic wigeon]

It’s just blur

[pallid vapor]

Omgggg Oculus store version! So excited

[winged igloo]

Didn't doubt it! I just personally don't believe it would be worth 1.5x an oculus, but that's from my personal view

[vocal shard]

Its not blurry. Its soft, but still the same pixel size

Compared to my Rift, that seems like a blessing

[alpine cove]

i think those screenshots are misleading, i think they're taken too close to the object. odyssey+ definitely looks better, but

[inner cape]

Thanks whoever chose this song
I'm stuck now
https://imgur.com/a/mEKjP54

[fresh merlin]

Rift pic is taken from closer tho 🤔

[vocal shard]

I dont' really wanna strain my eyes any more than I need to. Still love my Rift for what it is tho

[alpine cove]

i suspect odyssey+ also has a closer focal distance, and that picture is taken from too close for the vive and rift.

rift's focal distance isn't great, 1 meter i think

[vocal shard]

I've used the headset, I'm not trying to mislead

[fresh merlin]

rift is hard to set up tho isn't it?

[vocal shard]

not at all

Not really

I'll trust you on that one Jamie, I know you have a large WMR community around you. Rift has an EZ setup

[alpine cove]

i'm just saying of those screenshots, from what i've seen with my rift, it looks like the rift screenshot was taken too close for the rift's focal distance

[rigid crescent]

Vive is harder to set up lol

[alpine cove]

i'm sure odyssey+ looks better than the rift just by nature of being newer tbh

[raven silo]

vive has fullbody

[floral aspen]

rift is dead simple to setup

[inner cape]

its cursed anyway

[fresh merlin]

would i need any extension cables for the rift?

[alpine cove]

probably

[floral aspen]

like I honestly question someone's intelligence if they have problems setting it up

[vocal shard]

Through the lens shots are hard to get Right... They can never properly represent

vive has steamvr and steam controller wands so it's cursed

[alpine cove]

if you're going to set up a sensor behind you, almost certainly. the cables on the sensors are a little bit short. headset cables are decent length

[royal pond]

Yeah rift just worked out of the box

[raven silo]

the true test put your hand behind your head if cant not full control your hands lol

[floral aspen]

yeah, I had to get a usb extension for my 3rd sensor

[vocal shard]

I had problems setting mine up since the sensors kept giving me errors cause of one of my sensors having tracking errors

[alpine cove]

i want to get a third sensor but i'm worried about performance fall-off because i'd need a pretty long usb extension

[vocal shard]

So I managed to BS it and skip the setup and get my Rift working

[royal pond]

The thing that didn’t however work was my computer, that bluescreened, many days of frustration and anger later it’s smooth as butter when it’s not dropping the sensors

[alpine cove]

my rift has been asking me to set up my rift for months now lol

[vocal shard]

Nice to know that I'm not the only one who did that

[alpine cove]

the only issue with my rift is that i had to update my usb drivers for it, and updated usb drivers made my old webcam stop working. it bluescreens my pc if i plug it in now

but it's also like, 6-7 years old.

[sleek hemlock]

Im having issues with riftcat as well

[royal pond]

@vocal shard you mean have a shit computer for vr?

[carmine sonnet]

i really don't like the new update lmao

[rigid crescent]

Can you elaborate

[fresh merlin]

so i think I'll either get rift with an extra tracker and an extension cable or a samsung odyssey+. vive wands are a turnoff for me

[median basalt]

ask for bug reports on canny
don't fix a single one of them and instead add it to "known issues"

[vocal shard]

@royal pond i5 7600k, 1070 TI FTW2, 16GB of RAM. It's not shit

I need to get a Inateck USB extension card, that's what I read online. I think I was fudging a lot

[alpine cove]

the rift is still a very good all-around choice

[vocal shard]

Odyssey+ is more expensive than the rift.. either one will be great. Stay within your budget

[rigid crescent]

tfw you forget to reupload so you're just REALLY SHINY

[median basalt]

Lol

[unkempt linden]

[alpine cove]

the oculus sdk and software is great, which is definitely a plus

[median basalt]

I'm reuploading all my public avatars now, the private ones are already up to date

[fresh merlin]

well

[vocal shard]

The rift is guaranteed a great experience. The Odyssey+ you trade off a little bit for better visuals

[royal pond]

@vocal shard lol you should see mine, i7 2600k 970 OOC 16GB memory, it’s so underpowered for vr

[novel fog]

Only me having trouble getting in to vrchat after the update?

[fresh merlin]

since odyssey+ is hard to get in europe anyways I'll probably just get rift

[vocal shard]

Ok, cool

[fresh merlin]

ty guys a lot. see you in vrchat soon

[alpine cove]

the rift is probably the most user-friendly starting experience

just in terms of ease of use

[fresh merlin]

I've never tried the rift. only the vive once for an hour it was cool :P

[vocal shard]

yea, and I get nice ass frames and stuff. It's just that a lack of available resources for the sensor and the fact that I push my rig a lot contributes to it. I get nice frames if I'm just running my Rift and no other software (such as OVRDrop and SLOBS)

[royal pond]

In fact all my friends are surprised vr even works on a processor platform this old

[fresh merlin]

but throwing stuff was hard (superhot vr)

[alpine cove]

throwing stuff in vr is just hard in general, because if you don't release at the right time it just drops on the floor in front of you

[vocal shard]

I generally try to stream my Rift as well, so I push it a lot

[royal pond]

Ouch oof no bueno

[vocal shard]

ANd I'm glad I have a nice rig, otherwise i would be flipping and flopping really hard.

[alpine cove]

superhot seems to have some stuff in place to 'smooth' the throwing though. probably compensates for bad throws

[vocal shard]

I did do a bunch of tweaks to software and stuff so that OBS has less of an impact on my rig, but OVRDrop is a bitch when it comes to hogging my CPU

[hearty wyvern]

Also, rift as a whole, is made of recycled early 2000s Nokias

[alpine cove]

superhot is also one hell of a workout

[fresh merlin]

the other reason I'm going with rift is cause then I'll have more money to upgrade my pc

[quiet river]

@royal pond how is your rig on games other than vrchat? Because vrchat is definitely not a good basis to base a system off of.

[royal pond]

If anyone has too many dynamic bones or has any sort of cloth physics my computer is just done lol

[grand zealot]

@quiet river this ^

[hearty wyvern]

Chuck Norris might even have yroubke breaking a rift controller.

[royal pond]

@quiet river lol it’s just fine at other games but VRChat is now what I play most often sooooooo yeah it’s kind of an important thing

[digital sparrow]

Is the current version using 4.15f1 or 4.17f1

[royal pond]

4.15f1

[alpine cove]

i love my rift, the only time i have regrets is when i want to lay down in bed and chill on vrchat lol. no dice there.

[digital sparrow]

You can do that just set up your towers proper

[floral aspen]

you can do that if you go with a hybrid FBT setup

[alpine cove]

well, it doesn't work well without full body in vrchat though

because your avatar doesn't adjust nicely, so view gets all messed up

[hearty wyvern]

Just buy like 4 first gen Kinect sensors

[floral aspen]

ewww

[royal pond]

Just have top down sensors above your bed lmao

[vocal shard]

Just buy a Vive

[alpine cove]

i could lay in my bed now, it would just look awful in game and be really hard to see anything in game.

[quiet river]

Yeah vrchat is extremely Un optimized there are people with even beefier pcs than you and can't run the game that well. I'm currently on a 15 4690k 16gb ram and gtx 970 and haven't had any issues besides people trying to crash me.

[grand zealot]

Y'all are lazy

[hearty wyvern]

@vocal shard hisss u right tho, for a measly $1000 you can have FBT

[vocal shard]

@hearty wyvern Gotta get that $1000 DLC

[alpine cove]

i mean, you can get it for the low price of $570 with a Rift

[hearty wyvern]

[alpine cove]

just buy 2 lighthouses and 3 trackers, easy

[floral aspen]

^

[hearty wyvern]

All that processor power gonna burn ur house down.

[alpine cove]

i keep flip-flopping on getting a kinect or two. i've heard you need two for it to work even close to decent, and even then it's not great

i also don't know where tf i would put two kinects in my current setup lmao

[hearty wyvern]

Fun fact. Some peioke just sit down and only use one sensor a the HMD whike using the mouse and keyboard to move.

[floral aspen]

if you're gonna go with more than 1 kinect, might as well bite the bullet and buy the vive trackers

[pseudo flume]

Hey guys, is anyone else having an issue with some worlds being completely black? Or is it just me?

[rigid crescent]

Yes, it's in the patch notes actually it's not? could've sworn it was. It's because the world hasn't been uploaded

[alpine cove]

i mean, the price difference between 2 kinects, and 3 vive trackers + 2 lighthouses is pretty significant

[raven silo]

kinect use to much cpu and usb bandwith

[vocal shard]

Is my Dad in the patch notes?

[pseudo flume]

Oh okay.

[rigid crescent]

he's in the next one buddy don't worry @vocal shard

[raven silo]

if you really want fullbody buy vive

anything else homebrew stuff hope it work

[alpine cove]

well yeah, but a $900 solution isn't really a solution for me lol

[quiet river]

Wait for prices to come down

[vocal shard]

Great, I'll get my coffin then

[floral aspen]

I don't see any cheaper alternatives that are actually good appearing until next gen

[alpine cove]

i'll just save up for a tesla bodysuit

[tacit plank]

Discord message red, hmm..

[rigid crescent]

then hope it's supported

[tacit plank]

Oh, that one worked. Can I still uploa d from 5.6 if I'm lazy?

[vocal shard]

Nahh, Elong Muskerino will ensure that it maybe works

nolo is another fbt alternative...

[fresh merlin]

is it any good?

[light wedge]

ok that wired why just black sndow

[vocal shard]

$150 it works the same idea as vive trackers, but it only has one base station

[alpine cove]

so you'd have to be facing forward mostly?

[fresh merlin]

is there a video of it anywhere?

[vocal shard]

Not as good as vive, but much better than kinect

[alpine cove]

hmmm... i usually am facing forward anyway, might be something i should look into

[vocal shard]

One sec @fresh merlin

[light wedge]

why vr chat just lot black shadow

[fresh merlin]

oh i found some

[raven silo]

other way harder get setup. if dont know how to setup it right

[vocal shard]

My friends review https://youtu.be/ERyHRpDGHlc
@fresh merlin

[fresh merlin]

ty

[tacit plank]

Some worlds lightning have broken in the update

[alpine cove]

time to check that out. if it works well i might try it

[fast dawn]

Can I still use the old unity?

[vocal shard]

Why is new Unity not work it say when start
"The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows
you're running."

[umbral reef]

Well- What windows do you run

[vocal shard]

Windows 7!

[rigid crescent]

😰

[umbral reef]

And as in the game itself or unity unity to upload stuff

[vocal shard]

When I try start

[covert linden]

Get 10 everything works with 10

[halcyon kestrel]

VRChat + Oculus Store = No more SteamVR thank god/Setroom up

[covert linden]

It costs money to upgrade?

[vocal shard]

Yess

[raven silo]

@tacit plank yea alot people have fix there world lights. just wonder how many world be take off never get update lol

[umbral reef]

It does now-
When they released it you could upgrade for free

[covert linden]

Ohhh

[neat dawn]

how much?

[vocal shard]

But I need work in 7, why is it not work

I have right version from VRC guide link to unityhub

[neat dawn]

i’m just curious how much it costs

[vocal shard]

Why support an outdated OS?

[fresh sentinel]

@halcyon kestrel sorry to ping, but your username is cool

[halcyon kestrel]

Oh thank you I like your pfp and name 😄

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard companies are stopping it mainly high tech stuff like VR companies

[neat dawn]

star wars is epic

[tacit plank]

Why break anything on Windows 7?

[covert linden]

Its like 10ish$ @neat dawn according to google

[vocal shard]

Dathomir Maulers#0001 shieeeeeet he got it

[neat dawn]

oh that’s not that much

[umbral reef]

@covert linden Those are non official but real working keys though

[fresh sentinel]

Nice to see Star Wars fans that know their shit

[vocal shard]

A key is really cheap, but they aren't exactly official

I do not even have bank account yet to pay

[tacit plank]

https://unity3d.com/unity/system-requirements It should support win7 Service pack 1

[safe marsh]

oh dang update out allrdy? can't wait to try it out

[neat dawn]

i was expecting more like 100$ lol and nah i wasn’t saying you should buy it, prob need to spend that on more important things

[vocal shard]

The official ones are quite pricy, but there are ways to get legit keys for pretty cheap

[halcyon kestrel]

LightDreamer you like my Profile pic

[covert linden]

Are you sure its at the top of the google for "windows 10 cost

[neat dawn]

assuming you’re an adult and adults spend their money on like food and shit

[quaint dawn]

vrchat crashes on launch, any help?

[vocal shard]

Go tell it to not crash

Be a man

[indigo yacht]

dunno but i recently updated my old laptop which had win 7 and used same key to active win 10 works like dream

[covert linden]

10$ isnt much but if youre young with no job I can see how its much, if you scrounge and save you could buy a visadebit and get one or maybe bestbuy can update ut

[fresh sentinel]

@halcyon kestrel love it. Maul is one of my fav characters

[halcyon kestrel]

same :3

[vocal shard]

Please help with Unity

[tacit plank]

My game and world still works. No visual differences

[vocal shard]

I can no upgrade broken avatar now

I just got WIn10 with my new PC

[indigo yacht]

@vocal shard you dont even need to update your avatars IF they don't have any following
You have animations on your avatar that affect GameObject rotation, otherwise the rotations will behave incorrectly
You have used Crunch Compression on textures on your avatar, otherwise the textures will not decompress/display properly

[umbral reef]

@covert linden If someone really cant pay that a Top modern VR game maybe aint there thing then...
Might be harsh but the game is VR first- Else its just called SecondLife instead..

[vocal shard]

I do, they broke

they didn't break, can you still use them/access them?

[stiff tree]

any difference between keeping my vrchat steam install and launching it from oculus and the actual oculus version? Beat saber doesn't seem to launch steamvr even though I have it installed through steam.

[covert linden]

@umbral reef true I was just trying to put it nicely

[umbral reef]

@stiff tree No SteamVR what saves performance

[vocal shard]

They break and I can no use new unity version

[indigo yacht]

in beta i could use my but look what happends with tail animation https://streamable.com/0n2zw

[neat dawn]

@umbral reef desktop mode is fun as heck too lmao why you being a jerk

[covert linden]

Desktop mode is fun

[median basalt]

@indigo yacht reupload your avatar

[indigo yacht]

that could be used by todd howard at next bethesda game trailer lol

[neat dawn]

desktop mode is epic

[grand zealot]

VRChat is smooth as fuck on desktop now

[indigo yacht]

@median basalt i know what i must do but for now i just enjoyed my kebab im probly gonna reupload my avatars tomorrow it's late evening here in finland

[tacit plank]

Oh, they fixed the "update every 3rd or so frame" thing?

[stiff tree]

alright I can confirm if you launch the already installed steam version from the rift dash it launches fine without steam vr

[signal thunder]

anybody else getting these extremely long avatar loading times

[umbral reef]

@neat dawn How is saying the games main focus is on VR and should not limit the future development of the game just for desktop being a jerk?
I cant claim its a fact but its for sure logical to say and smart to do...

If someone is on outdated tech anyway its not odd they will run into the problem of having too old tech with things that flat out dont support modern games or tech- Like VR

Not having a machine from the 20's and running outdated OS is a great step...

[tacit plank]

Win7 is not outdated. XP is

[vocal shard]

CaN I GeT A ReFuNd? ThE GaMe Is BrOkEn

[covert linden]

Win7 is outdated

[vocal shard]

f2p game

does playspace mover work with the oculus version? (my guess is no, and if there's an alternative)

[tacit plank]

I played VRChat on my Windows 7 like 20 minutes ago

[median basalt]

I don't know of any alternatives but playspace mover and OpenVR advanced settings are based on SteamVR

[neat dawn]

i think i misunderstood the statement, sounded like you were saying they were too poor and shouldn’t play vrchat because they have no vr

[umbral reef]

@tacit plank 14 januari 2020 it officially is

[royal pond]

Got me some of that hand DLC

[covert linden]

Yes its useable but it doesnt mean its not like outdated.

[umbral reef]

@neat dawn I am all for desktop players- Its one of the main reasons the game grew so hard

[vocal shard]

hand and neck dlc 👌

[covert linden]

I can still use my origional gameboy doesnt mean that its not outdated

[tacit plank]

That's more than a year away. It doesn't matter what's "official" though

[neat dawn]

@umbral reef okay, sorry for the misunderstanding

[ruby needle]

WIndows 7 is still widely spread and still supported

so it aint outdated

[stoic blaze]

can't execute after update

[tacit plank]

If Windows 10 wasn't total shit, maybe I'd have gotten it, but that's just not the case

[grand zealot]

how's windows 10 shit, exactly?

[royal pond]

Windows 7 looks much better than windows 10

[sleek ivy]

It's still supported, but a lot of features that Oculus supports like the Desktop feature is not allowed on Windows 7

[umbral reef]

@neat dawn Its fine- Im honestly happy you atleast pointed it out so i could explain it more and im extremely happy you understood it after

[vocal shard]

its a privacy nightmare

[sleek ivy]

Oculus demands Windows 10 for it's full support, but it works on Windows 7

[umbral reef]

@ruby needle 14 januari 2020 my boy

[tacit plank]

Two different control panels and UI styles. The only new features that Windows 7 didn't have are malware

[umbral reef]

Official microsoft support ends then and unless its urgent urgent

[ruby needle]

This ain't the right channel for a w7 / w10 discussion

[royal pond]

Yeah

[ruby needle]

let's just move on

[thorn shoal]

what's new in VRChat

[umbral reef]

Read the announcement

[vocal shard]

^

[rigid crescent]

^

[stoic blaze]

Vrchat does not start after the update. Does anyone know how to fix that?

[fresh merlin]

jam

[vocal shard]

Hmm?

[tacit plank]

Some older CPUs are just not supported anymore I believe

[fresh merlin]

for nolo tracking do you have to use the controllers inculded?

[umbral reef]

@stoic blaze What si your CPU
Have you tried starting the game from the website by loading directly into a world yet?
Does it provide an crashlog?

[vocal shard]

You use the nolo controllers as foot trackers. Yeah

[stoic blaze]

@umbral reef i7-870

[alpine cove]

hmmm, nolo needs steamVR though it looks like?

[covert linden]

My vrchat wont updaaaaateeeeeee

[stiff tree]

actually vrchat installed through steam does still use steamvr, anyway to just move my files over?

[placid umbra]

I don't believe so, it'd be best to install from Oculus

@stoic blaze This is because your CPU does not support the AVX instruction extensions, which are required for usage in VRChat.

[fair remnant]

I've been getting loads of notifications from different discord servers saying that there is security leaks and you can get hacked, can anyone confirm?

[umbral reef]

Raaa where does it lsit the minium specced stuff for VRC again- I know tupper added it on the blog posts

[alpine cove]

oof, you have to connect a cable to the hip tracker for the nolo?

[fresh merlin]

i didn't get anything like that Danish

[median basalt]

@fair remnant don't believe everything you read

[digital sparrow]

Mousemovement if moving your mouse slowly left or right it sticks to Y-axis

[stoic blaze]

@placid umbra sad to hear it ._.

[remote locust]

lmao new update completely fucked standard shader

[alpine cove]

every time vrchat updates, everyone spreads rumors that you're gonna get hacked or get your gpu destroyed or w/e

[umbral reef]

@fair remnant I can tell you-
Me claiming im the ruler of The netherlands is just as trust worthy

[fresh merlin]

also i think if that was true discord would probably force shutdown so no one gets hacked

[fair remnant]

Just trying to confirm if it's actually a thing or not since I got 3-5 pings in total about it

[alpine cove]

oh, you mean in discord? don't click any google drive links anyone sends you

[remote locust]

here to fry your bpu

[light wedge]

please note: your avatar is broke you have reload

[floral aspen]

Best to assume if it doesn't come from the official discord server it's bullshit

[alpine cove]

but that's always the case. never click sus links

[umbral reef]

@stoic blaze Give me a second i found the links i need to do what i wanted to do

[fair remnant]

@alpine cove No like a 'AEveryone' ''don't play VRChat there is a security leak and it's easy to get hacked''

[alpine cove]

nah. that's just standard rumors that spread literally every time the game gets updated

[fresh merlin]

oh for a sec i thought he meant discord was hacked lmao

[vocal shard]

Ah the rumours... Always fun. Lol

[light wedge]

please note: your avatar is broke you have reload

[alpine cove]

well, maybe i'll consider the nolo, i'd like to see it on sale on amazon or something before i buy it, especially if i have to have a cable attached to the hip tracker at all times lol

[fast dawn]

my avatars still work in vrchat, I don't need to do anything then?

[ruby needle]

yes, if nothing is broken then all good

[vocal shard]

Yeah, it's good for front facing. Much better than Kinect ever was

[umbral reef]

@stoic blaze Ow sorry- didnt see AEV was faster then me with checking- but what he said is true ye

[alpine cove]

i'd have to reposition my pc, or get a long usb cable lol

[raven silo]

only time i think your avatar break use werid shader and compressed texture

[fresh merlin]

wait u actually need cabled for the hip tracker?

[alpine cove]

or if you have a tail idle animation

those use the bone rotation that would require a reupload

[vocal shard]

If you have a long cable, you can just have it follow your headset cable

[alpine cove]

there are other situations where you might have the bone rotation too, but the tail one is probably the most common

[umbral reef]

Being payed to tech support IRL while also helping users here

[alpine cove]

same

[twin jacinth]

same lmao

[alpine cove]

well, more like being paid to pretend to tech support IRL

[twin jacinth]

It kind of goes over, you work with tech support irl and someone ask something here you're like
yeah i know this i'll help out

[umbral reef]

TBH the main thing i do online is play tech support...

[twin jacinth]

Oof

[vocal shard]

The true hero we need

[alpine cove]

i just like to help people, lol

[umbral reef]

Its all im good in
Helping peeps who know jack shit
Learn things so i can help more stuff
Fix and create things to help more

Its why i like this chat

[vocal shard]

Security?... Such as?

[twin jacinth]

Yeah if you have the knowledge to help someone, why not^^

[vocal shard]

i wish i could help people, but i really don't know that much tech stuff

[pale hull]

Making people an easy target.

[umbral reef]

@pale hull Mind explaining it then instead of copy pasting the rumor?

[stoic blaze]

@placid umbra But why did you impose such a restriction? unity3d.com says CPU: SSE2 instruction set support.

[fresh merlin]

#jam4faqsupport

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Learn- You know the stuff i say? Ask me for stuff and see what i say and how i explain it
If you dont know something dont provide support for it

[polar rose]

lol rumors in vrc community are always the most ridiculous things ever

[stone current]

rip a lot of worlds

[umbral reef]

Its why i dont help within avatar channels- Too much odd stuff in there for me to help

[floral aspen]

Da hackers r gonna fry ur CPU gais

[vocal shard]

Yeah Oclac ^^

[fast dawn]

If I have an avatar world, do I have to reupload every avatar on it still if they work well?

[stone current]

rip some of my shaders also

[twin jacinth]

''Security error in vrc code''
Aight proof to back it up and where and what is it?

[stone current]

at least i get 90 fps now

[pale hull]

Something about GEO IP being leaked

[alpine cove]

the cycle of vrchat. game gets updated, people start saying if you log on vrchat hackers can kill your dog through the internet or order 500 pizzas to your house

[stone current]

rip dog

[floral aspen]

Gonna have to be more specific than that delaney

[tacit plank]

Somebody told me my IP half a year ago... This isn't new

[alpine cove]

literally every update lol

[polar rose]

lol oh no ppl will know which city i live in

[pale hull]

Lol

[raven silo]

if scare get VPN lol

[umbral reef]

That geo ip stuff is 'great' anyway lmao
any proper ISP if not all dont provide direct link towards your house but instead to there stuff

[stone current]

wat about the po leec

[hearty wyvern]

There are security errors in the code of Windows 10, Linux, and ATM mchines. Oh boy H e l p

[alpine cove]

if you are interacting with people online, there is a way for anyone dedicated enough to get your IP address

[umbral reef]

They know i live in a 20K radius in one of the million towns 😨

[tacit plank]

VPNs are a bad idea if you use the same one as somebody who got banned

[alpine cove]

like it's literally not possible to hide it unless you're using a VPN basically

[stone current]

yay bankrupcy is fun

[raven silo]

use pay one not free one

[floral aspen]

And if it is your IP address? That's shit ain't secret. If you want to hide it use a VPN

[polar rose]

ip address geolocation will never lead anywhere close to your house, the closest it can get is city, and in many cases it is wrong. for example, the geolocation on my IP is always on the other side of my country.

[stone current]

reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uTKX_F13Ss

[tacit plank]

Some online ads used to get my country wrong

[digital sparrow]

Interesting as I installed the vrcsdk while playing vrchat I got like 100 blank popups

[stone current]

same

[polar rose]

i always get "Find hot singles in [insert random UK town that's nowhere near me]"

[stone current]

cmd starts popping up like crazy

[tacit plank]

This was years ago though. I don't see ads anymore. And if I do, they die on the spot 😄

[elfin ether]

Wtf now there are annoying ad spams? Where?

[digital sparrow]

I had every single minimized app including those in the taskbar (next to clock) and explorer doing shit, I basicly just force quit the pc

[elfin ether]

In the new update

[tacit plank]

I think you misunderstood, no ads in the update
Except for a poster in the pug maybe

[atomic spire]

y’all broke my Seiki’s i’m gonna kms...why couldn’t you wait until after new years to destroy my avatars???

[elfin ether]

Ah ok

[umbral reef]

lmao caff 😂

@atomic spire reupload the avatar

[polar rose]

that reminds me, i always wondered about this, there is a rule in vrc that you are not allowed to advertise external services especially paid ones, but yet we have ads in maps like the pug 🤔 ?

[rigid crescent]

@tacit plank Actually advertisements aren't allowed in public worlds, so I don't think the Pug has those.

[tacit plank]

If updating Unity with VRChat open messes things up, there should be an announcement I feel

[stone current]

arent they all fake ads

[polar rose]

it does have advertisements @rigid crescent

[atomic spire]

you know how many bones some of them use???

[umbral reef]

@polar rose Its owlboy- He is special
Other maps get denied for it though as shown in #public-world-request and the avatar world list

[stone current]

[rigid crescent]

it does? Maybe one of the many team members can let us know why!

[polar rose]

i really hope that's not the actual justification Oclac because that is rather bullshit

[rigid crescent]

Well, you should send an email to [e-mail] and report the world, just to be on the safe side. If it's breaking the rules then they should know /s

[stone current]

that apartment place looks like vomit now

[umbral reef]

@polar rose In the past he hsa gotten diffrent treathment compared to others
Atleast from the vieuw of any regular user

[polar rose]

regardless of how good a creator is they should never be exempt from any guidelines imo. i realise it's a hugely popular world and owlboy is a fantastic creator..but integrity and fairness comes above

[rain stump]

Yo does anyone got a link for the song from the new trailer cause it's good as hell

[polar rose]

interesting tho, i thought i was just missing something

[rigid crescent]

Luckily that integrity should fall on him as well, why would someone ever accept special privileges that other users don't have despite being a plain user themselves?

[twin jacinth]

As far as I've heard he is the only one allowed to have ads because he is given special privileges

And it's how most people see it as well i assume which brings the point of Mic, send a mail
But again, maybe they just didn't see it or the person who tested the world didn't notice

[rigid crescent]

I've sent one to moderation and one to support asking what is and isn't "approved advertising"

[median basalt]

@rigid crescent pretty sure the Pug actually does have advertisements, I've seen commissioners get advertised there before

[rigid crescent]

I know I'm being facetious but it doesn't seem very obvious I guess lol

[polar rose]

just look at the foyer/entrance to the pug, there is quite a few ads in there, it's definitely against the ToS to do it as well

[remote locust]

sdk broken or just me

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, report the world to moderation then, that's all we can do.

[fresh merlin]

does a link to a discord server in a world count as advertising?

[polar rose]

i mean considering how much of a long-stayer the pug is and that it hasnt been an issue until now, i don't honestly believe reporting will do anything so i won't waste my time

no benci, advertising paid services and products etc is the thing that's not allowed AFAIK

[rain stump]

Ty

[twin jacinth]

He shouldn't be given special privileges regardless if he is a good creator or not, everyone should be equal.

[wispy fjord]

is the update out now?

[tacit plank]

I know a few good creators that don't get special treatment

[ruby needle]

no #announcements was just a joke

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, report the world and see if somethin gets done about it

[wispy fjord]

damn

[tulip kernel]

Security leak?

[rigid crescent]

Damn FPaul replacing compatible as sassy mod

tHeRe'S a SeCuRiTy LeAk lol

[tulip kernel]

Some content creators are posting about it, just wanna check with you guys

[ruby needle]

c'mon

[rigid crescent]

Not heard anything so far

[digital sage]

So glad Vrchat is finally in the Oculus store. now i dont have to worry about steam vr losing its shoot and breaking, which also breaks oculus, and my computer lol

[tacit plank]

You can't even leak security. You can leak information.
But no, it's a rumor, and those who spread it can't give any technical information at all

[umbral reef]

Most content creators are IMO far from smart though about anything closely related to technology

Please inform those peeps that they are spreading out false information

[tulip kernel]

I come here to ask the professionals, not kids throwing insults around..

[alpine cove]

hasn't been any word about any security issues outside of rumors yet. i mean, not disproved. just not proved either.

[rigid crescent]

You'd wanna go to user-support then

i think they're active there

[twin jacinth]

Doubt it Trapman
no reliable source to confirm it actually being a leak anywhere so far just rumors

[tacit plank]

Even if it is true, reporting it as "there's a security leak" is retarded. What exactly is "leaking"? How does it affect users? Etc

[placid umbra]

@tulip kernel Rumors happen a lot on updates for some reason, nothing to be worried about unless we announce an issue.

[tulip kernel]

Copy chief. Thanks

[rigid crescent]

The chief says this rumor ain't it

[alpine cove]

pretty much literally every VRC update, someone starts to spread a rumor about how you can get hacked by going on VRC

[rigid crescent]

ok quick aev, owlman and the pug advertisements :3

[tacit plank]

Rumors happen surprisingly often in this chat, but until now, none of them has come true

[vocal shard]

'surprisingly' 😄

[rigid crescent]

the log out one turned out true I think

[tacit plank]

If there was a security issue, somebody would have technical information on it by now.
And yeah, it's like every week. Where do these even come from?

[vocal shard]

My project had a 440k file library, going to see how it works out if I get rid of that and allow Unity to rebuild it on the new version since what I read Unity should just rebuild it if it's gone

[rigid crescent]

or was that not a rumor that was spreading around?

[signal thunder]

every rumor imaginable is spreading aorund

[rigid crescent]

Oh wait, I guess it was very quickly confirmed so it wasn't a rumor for long

[digital sage]

Owl;man has been around a long time and made a lot of nice things in vrchat, he probably knows some of the devs by now and they trust him. My hypothesis on why hes given those priviges, which IMO is comepletely fair

[tacit plank]

That wasn't the rumor. Those that logged others out used to be able to message them stuff, so they'd write "you have been banned" or something, and a rumor started that anyone can ban your account

[rigid crescent]

Oh I remember that one!

[median basalt]

Yeah, there was a logout exploit a while back, and one that allowed people to send fake warnings to other people containing any text

[verbal creek]

wait a minute there is a rumor about a security issue or what ?

[rigid crescent]

yeah, it's a very vague one, just "security issue" lol

[umbral reef]

@digital sage So because he makes stuff and is well known he gets to break rules?

[median basalt]

I think before this update there was still a logout exploit, not sure if it exists now

[verbal creek]

how this rumor started this time ?

[winged igloo]

Rumours coming from VRChat updates is like asking whether water is wet

inevitable

[rigid crescent]

buncha bored people doing a meme

[twin jacinth]

Crawling is so slow now jesus xD

[tulip kernel]

Eret dms please

[winged igloo]

Sure boi

[digital sage]

@umbral reef uuuhh yeah. pretty much

[tacit plank]

It's not fair Jared. It's fair that they trust him, but not fair that he's allowed to make money on VRChat while others get punished for it.
For example, it's fair that Admins can use administrator tools. But it would not be fair if admins walked around with nude models and punished others for doing the same.
If that comparison makes sense..

[digital sage]

i dont think owlman himself is getting money

[verbal creek]

the only issue I had is that vrchat would all the time do the setup T-pose like wen you have fullbody but everytime I switched avatars

[tacit plank]

Isn't it a commission ad?

[umbral reef]

Does that logic also apply IRL.
Because if it does ima vote you for ruler and then just donat eloads of money lmao-
Im doing good and il get well known so i can do what ever i want

[fleet sequoia]

wait you mean i dont have to launch steam in order to play vrchat now?>

[umbral reef]

And he is advertising services that provide money

He also earns money from his patreon

[digital sage]

yes Yuuki

[polar elm]

Yuuki

[rigid crescent]

Void Club does that as well don't they?

[fair yew]

Feels like my vertical mouse sensivity's turned down low

[oblique pulsar]

is there any benefit to using the oculus client vs the steam vr client? have both rift and vive and not sure i want to install twice.

[tacit plank]

I don't remember the ad, but I promise you that his ads won't "provide money" to me

[limber basin]

Maruuuuu

[digital sage]

ive seen plenty worlds do this, idk why theyre being allowed, but theyre probably doing some kind of loophole

[median basalt]

@oblique pulsar the Oculus client will run better in almost every way, but has no external addons like playspace mover

[polar elm]

Nightmaker <3

[fleet sequoia]

Maru!

[rigid prism]

@elder patrol george a romero

[polar elm]

Everyone in general today >.<

[oblique pulsar]

@median basalt has that been your experience?

[limber basin]

Slurp

[alpine cove]

i'm gonna miss using playspace to crouch lower, but if it means i can get more than 45 fps i'll take it

[fleet sequoia]

It certainly rank better on oculus store before it was taken down

[vocal shard]

@oblique pulsar it will negate the use of steam running at all ... handling audio and tracking etc and passing all that to oculus that already has all that covered

[fleet sequoia]

tbh im surprised they decided to republish it to the Occulus store

[oblique pulsar]

PlayspaceMover doesn't work anymore? @alpine cove or you mean just because of oculus version

[alpine cove]

won't on oculus, yeah

[digital sage]

i didnt know it was on the oculus store at all before now

[polar rose]

playspacemover will work if you choose to run the game through SteamVR

[bright girder]

it wasnt

[oblique pulsar]

oh ok

[fleet sequoia]

it was alot of work to create a speperate build for steam and occulus

[digital sage]

im sure

[polar rose]

but if you run the game through the Oculus store it will not work

[fleet sequoia]

Once upon a time it was on the occulus store but because small team / multiple builds

I still have a super old Version thats on occulus home rofl

[oblique pulsar]

i cant believe how long its been since it went on steam

[fair yew]

It really feels like my vertical mouse sensivity has decreased

[oblique pulsar]

i cant believe ive had vr that fucking long now

still feels like a month ago

[fleet sequoia]

i still cant believe i still have more tyhen 4 people that play that i met when i joined lol

be it most of htem quit weeks into steam release :l

[split vortex]

Did this update increase performance?

[umbral reef]

Pretty much ye

[polar elm]

Yes biscuit

[tacit plank]

Generally, it should have

[split vortex]

Or am i tripping

[twin jacinth]

It has been updated
It runs a lot smoother

[opaque hawk]

Worlds that are not updated for 2017 won’t run smoothly

[fleet sequoia]

Does it still take 5 seconds to change avatars? not logged in atm

[split vortex]

Also i didnt do the sdk just the steam update do i need the sdk?

[oblique pulsar]

im about to try rift release vs steamvr release

[tough girder]

yes unity 2017 and latest SDK

[opaque hawk]

To upload, yes

[tacit plank]

My 5.6 world runs with 90FPS in front of a mirror reflecting a 10000 square kilometer terrain though

[split vortex]

If im just a user i dont need it though right

[tough girder]

question people are not getting my invites

[tacit plank]

Are they on the same version as you?

[split vortex]

I dont upload

[tough girder]

yes they are

[umbral reef]

@split vortex Then just ignore that all and get the new steam version and your set

[split vortex]

Kk just making sure thanks

[fleet sequoia]

how to Not get banned 101 Keep old copy of client have friends keep backup of same version ( DONT Distribute client)

[oblique pulsar]

lmao i clicked the wrong vrchat icon and it opened steamvr, trying again

[fleet sequoia]

admins cant see you or kick etc get access to that room?

[umbral reef]

@fleet sequoia Fairly sure they still can ban you and see you online tho-

[fleet sequoia]

true be it they have to do it manually

[tacit plank]

If 5.6 runs in another server, they might shut it down at some point

[rigid crescent]

Most bans are manual

[fleet sequoia]

meaning they have to acutally go into the system to ban you

[rigid crescent]

which likely takes a whopping two whole fat seconds lol

[tacit plank]

But it would be like being in a private world then. You do all the lewd things that you want in there

[fleet sequoia]

2 seconds longer then they normally owuld of llol

[rigid crescent]

two seconds before the snap

[fleet sequoia]

Private world, more like private server lol considering maybee 1-2 people online in that version of the world

[tacit plank]

Basically, don't do things that you shouldn't around people that might have a problem with it (like being nude in public worlds) other than that, do what you want, nobody will care

[oblique pulsar]

WHOA cubed shader on older avatar is broke >< or might be world lighting... holy shii

[fleet sequoia]

ill have to ask some of my friends how easily they can do that if they dont have access to that world

[tacit plank]

Google "Toon shader" paste it into notepad, save it as something.shader, put it into VRChat.
You now have your own cubeds

[delicate stump]

yess! finally oculus store

[tacit plank]

Likely not as pretty, but you can make your own shader if you have time

[indigo yacht]

tbh i didnt see difference at all in oculus vs steam vr

[raven silo]

there noenoe verison shader to

[fleet sequoia]

awell im just glad i can use a non glichy oculus for the first time in years

[raven silo]

most time yuuki made world just break client lol half time invite me

[fast dawn]

can I still see my hours on vrchat if I switch from steamvr to oculus?

[fleet sequoia]

lol

jazneo my worlds dont crash people half the time... . its more like 75%

[raven silo]

try to make minecraft when touch block every crash

so many blocks

[stiff tree]

anyone know why vrchat seems to be locked at 45 fps unless I'm alone then it becomes 90fps. My cores are being utilized 80% and my gpu is sitting around 60%. Just wondering if anyone is having the same problem

[fleet sequoia]

Also that world only crashed if you joined it after making it

[umbral reef]

@stiff tree VR locks at 45 FPS because of technical reasons and caps at 90 for the same

You can reach the 90 alone as you dont load as much stuff then

[alpine cove]

both SteamVR and Oculus software have a functionality called Asynchronous Spacewarp, which locks your framerate to 45 if you can't hit 90 consistently

it helps with motion sickness, since a consistent framerate is important in vr

[safe prism]

45 is half of 90
just like 30fps is half of 60fps, if you were doing half vsync

[alpine cove]

well, the SteamVR version probably isn't called Asynchronous Spacewarp, I think that's an Oculus specific name lol

[raven silo]

@umbral reef i think it was for keep everything in sync with the vrchat trigger

[halcyon kestrel]

I love the new VRChat Reddit flairs

[safe prism]

async reprojection

[umbral reef]

@raven silo Nope- It has always been a VR thing. Also happens in other games

[fleet sequoia]

from what i understand its there to help prevent motion sickness

[alpine cove]

it's exclusively to reduce motion sickness

[digital sparrow]

@umbral reef half refresh happens with vsync aswell, digitalfoundry has a good video on this

[umbral reef]

@digital sparrow I semi know why it happens and stuff
Just could never be assed to learn the billion acronyms for it :')

But if you have a link for it would love a dm from it, will be a fun night time video

[covert linden]

YAY OCLAC IM MAKING MY OWN AVATAR

[raven silo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seyAzw9zEoY

[umbral reef]

As earlier POGGERS

I turned to chat support instead of doing the stuff i had planned

[oblique pulsar]

decent performance on oculus, same as steamvr tbh, but at least i can open vrchat faster

[stone current]

*imports sdk* *everything else also reimports*

[safe yacht]

Any solution to Oculus not showing VRChat in my actual VR headset?

[digital sparrow]

@stone current and you get 1000 popups

[safe yacht]

It’s showing my headset moving on my pc but I don’t get to see any of it in the Rift

[stone current]

restart pc

[safe yacht]

Righto

[stone current]

had same issue kept trying 2 restart steamvr but like only showed oculus home so i just restart pc and it work

[alpine cove]

that happens to me frequently with my rift, I suspect the driver is just kind of shitty sometimes lol

[safe yacht]

I noticed VRChat is now on the Oculus store

[digital sparrow]

Quit steamvr then oculus then start steamvr put on headset and play?

[stone current]

i wonder if vrchat ever gonna have like a steam workshop lol

[safe yacht]

Figured it had something to do with it

[alpine cove]

i'll put it on and i can hear things in the headset, but no video. have to reboot the entire driver. also, you should get Oculus Tray Tool. Lets you restart the driver with the click of a button

[feral ginkgo]

Anyone can confirm there's some security issues right now? As in people can take over accounts for whatever reason? Or is it once again just fearmongering?

[alpine cove]

almost certainly just fearmongering

[umbral reef]

@feral ginkgo All fake news and you should ignore them

[stone current]

like u can just subscribe to a avatar and it would show up

[digital sparrow]

cant for legal reasons

unless someoone makes something from scratch.
99% of the avatars in vrchat are made from deviantart submissions

[stone current]

???

[stiff tree]

nice

[stone current]

o yea copyright lol

[stiff tree]

logged out in first half hour

[stone current]

all the worlds i faved look like poop

[severe adder]

@digital sparrow Lots of people using game rips tho

[digital sparrow]

@severe adder yes but 'were talking putting them on the steam workshop, thats a big no

[severe adder]

Oh yeah that's a no no

[stone current]

what about gmod workshop

arent the majority of the PMs from games and furaffinity etc

[safe yacht]

Yeah a restart of my pc solved it!

[digital sparrow]

dont know about gmod or its workshop

I know there are websites that host shit tho

[alpine cove]

do you have Oculus Tray Tool, Dreamlicker? if not you should look into it, it's incredibly handy

honestly if all Oculus Tray Tool did was automatically switch my audio to Rift when I put on the Rift, and back to desktop when I closed the oculus software, I would use it. that alone is so handy.

[stone current]

look

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=4000&searchtext=&childpublishedfileid=0&browsesort=trend&section=readytouseitems&requiredtags[]=Model
off the bat u see rips and MMD and etc

[digital sparrow]

I think Valve is more willing to take responsibility if someone claims copyright, dmca and stuff. They have billions.

Vrchat team have what a $5mill grant total or

[tacit plank]

Why can't we use the Steam workshop? Nobody on there follows copyright laws to begin with. If gmod can get away with it, VRChat should too lol

[umbral reef]

@digital sparrow |All fault lies on the uploaded though instead of the company
They just have to act once they get informed about it

[delicate stump]

I dont see the version in the unity hub

[digital sparrow]

Just click the link in #vrchat-2017-beta-info and it'll auto download

[delicate stump]

thanks

[stone current]

doesnt that not apply in europe

like doesnt article 13 or whatever remove that and make it their responsibility

[digital sparrow]

not anymore

[umbral reef]

@stone current For now it still does with some new laws and not it will be iffy and cause problems (if it doesnt instnatly get revoked)

[digital sparrow]

yes valve etc would have to take 100% responsibility

twitch, youtube, even google has to take responsibility for content put on their platforms in EU

@vocal shard gimme ur ghastly fox

[vocal shard]

Wtf

[stone current]

[digital sparrow]

[stone current]

unity 2017 so slow to load holy

[vocal shard]

Did u literally see me typing for 0.1s and ping me

[digital sparrow]

Yes

[rigid crescent]

LOL

[severe adder]

@stone current I'm around 1h of loading my project lol

[olive flume]

so i already have read the instructions multiple times but for the regestry editor, i go to the vrchat folder there and only delete the vrc keys? i know it says that on the instructions but the warning of deleting certain keys makes me nervous

[digital sparrow]

@vocal shard make a vrchat account, steam account is pointless

[vocal shard]

Who are you even

[rigid crescent]

probably, steamvr is butt

[digital sparrow]

@vocal shard the one who made a replica of ur ghastly fox found in safe haven map back in like february 2018, except blue

[vocal shard]

I would assume the person that begs me for ghastly since 2017

[delicate stump]

I'm about to test the oculus version in a moment

[stone current]

i cant bc playspace mover

[digital sparrow]

Why you get rid of the map anyway

[delicate stump]

after I get my avatar ready

[stone current]

and i have openvr push to talk also

[vocal shard]

For some reason im not a fan of making my stuff public 🤔 so i deleted it after it wasnt needed anymore

[digital sparrow]

@vocal shard Those avatars were literally the only good ghastly fox avatars, even today, no one comes close lmfao

[vocal shard]

Peeps need to git gud

I can make you a remake for xmas. How about that

[digital sparrow]

Still no clue how you made the tail look so good. Particles/Multiply doesnt even look the same xd

@vocal shard a remake of the avatar or Safe Haven?

[vocal shard]

Avatar

[runic hound]

Will editing world details (name, tags, etc) through the VRC website cause it to become non-public?

[digital sparrow]

@vocal shard

I think you were first with a non-flat texture for the ghastly fox tail on your snow fox

[vocal shard]

But which one. The green space one. Or snowy one

[digital sparrow]

green space

[vocal shard]

Okay. I will sit down to doing it in liken2 or 3 days

[digital sparrow]

Awesome xd Wish you brought that map back too xd

[vocal shard]

I might include some animations :^)

[digital sparrow]

[vocal shard]

I made safe haven 2. Its just private atm

[flint plaza]

VRChat feels insanely smooth right now... is it just me, or was the update actually that big of a difference?

[digital sparrow]

Public sometime next year? xd

@flint plaza yes for desktop it runs at native hertz rather than like 45

[alpine cove]

the head motion no longer being restricted by fps is a very, very big deal, Kroama

[civic plume]

HEY

[vocal shard]

I played beta only cus of how smooth it was. Xd

[civic plume]

HOWS THE UPDATE 😄

[alpine cove]

in terms of smoothness of game, anyway.

[umbral reef]

@alpine cove voice is also off main core what i got told
Saves a lot of performance

[alpine cove]

depends on how old your CPU is monty, lol. if it's older, update is not great

[flint plaza]

This is... crazy smooth.
Thanks VRChat

[umbral reef]

Most of the potato's cant run anyway with the AVX* stuff

[vocal shard]

@umbral reef but not enough. Still #1 lag source is IK. They need to move it also

[umbral reef]

Fairly sure i heard stuff about them working on that in the closed beta

[digital sparrow]

Wish we could use all available threads

[alpine cove]

i'll take the lag if my head movements are smooth now

[digital sparrow]

I noticed particles didnt affect performance as much now

[stone current]

whats use of content warnings

[civic plume]

my computer is a monster i don’t care about that is this upgrade good or what 😄

[umbral reef]

@civic plume Pet it please ❤

[stone current]

basically nothing in content warning is allowed so y it even there

[vocal shard]

@umbral reef they didnt work on anything in beta. As ppl prolly heard joints and stuff are broken af and they still roll out the update like monkeys

[fervent fossil]

my CPU doesn't support AVX, so it won't play the newest VRC update. fuck me

[stone current]

oof

[alpine cove]

seems to be good, @civic plume . things are much smoother from what i've heard

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Closed beta =/= open beta

And i know they list the problems instead of fixing them 👀

[digital sparrow]

@fervent fossil what cpu

[alpine cove]

i'm at work so no testing for me yet lol

[fervent fossil]

amd athlon ii x4 630

[stone current]

intel ftw

[digital sparrow]

Isnt the whole game in "Early Access Alpha" still
@fervent fossil rip

[civic plume]

i know that from the beta @alpine cove and i’m wondering how it’s going as a live version for everyone

everyone seems to have issues ?? CPU?

[fervent fossil]

i never had a problem with all of my games until this update came along

[umbral reef]

All first gen intel cpu's (i3,i5,i7) got the same problem

[vocal shard]

This entire game is a beta so how can you have beta tests for a beta?

[stone current]

i could play it and im on i7 quad core

[digital sparrow]

@vocal shard

[civic plume]

@vocal shard your not wrong

[alpine cove]

as far as i understand nobody is having any issues in the new update, except people with CPUs that don't support the AVX instruction, and some public worlds not being reuploaded yet

[umbral reef]

@fervent fossil Its a unity thing and they are looking for a workaround

@vocal shard Thats technically true but still-
Not everything gets instantly yeet'd to the public to break and crash peeps with

[stone current]

didnt they upgrade to the outdated one too

[civic plume]

AVX instruction? is there any way to know what cpus mostly don’t include this instruction set @alpine cove

[stone current]

latest 2017 vers is not 15

[alpine cove]

2017 is the latest LTS release

[umbral reef]

Unity version?
2017 is fairly up to date
Isnt the newest but they can upgrade to those way more easy from now on

[stone current]

yea its not the newest 2017

its 17f1

[vocal shard]

Btw. Are we having fun yet?

[stone current]

n0

[fast dawn]

is playing vrchat via oculus store better?

[vocal shard]

[stone current]

all the worlds dead and bunch of avatars dead so everyone sad until all fixed

[civic plume]

no the version you guys should be running is .15f1 @stone current

[digital sparrow]

@fast dawn try it and compare, no one knows, and doubtful

[vocal shard]

We need Fixed Fixed joints.

[stone current]

ik its 15f1 but i literaly just said 17f1 is the newest theyre using the old one

[umbral reef]

So far i know it changes nothing because nothing important important got fixed in that version

[floral aspen]

@fast dawn yes. less overhead without steamvr running on top

[stone current]

wait does enabling and disabling ik follower work cuz i wanted to make a throwable prop

[nocturne ibex]

@civic plume Yep. If you have any somewhat modern CPU (AMD or Intel) of the x86 architecture it should suppoort the AVX instruction set. From what I know the Phenom and older AMD parts don't really have it, however the FX and RyZen support it. although Zen is generally slower than current Intel parts at AVX

[civic plume]

Thank you!

[unkempt cliff]

So do I need to uninstall vrchat from steam and install it on oculus now?

[alpine cove]

what cpu do you have monty?

[stone current]

yea but like if u install on oculus u dont get all the vr stuff like playspace mover and kinect2vr and etc

[unkempt cliff]

That’s fine.

[stone current]

cuz they need to connect to steams openvr thing

[civic plume]

GUYS! I’ve just been told the games update came with a security leak, and should not play due to easily being hacked!?

is this true

[civic vine]

Can anyone tell me why my Avatars all T-Pose on the spot as soon as it's loaded in?

[unkempt cliff]

Will it cause me less lag since steamvr won’t be open?

[umbral reef]

\Its not true at all so please remove it
Also call the person who told you that a dummy for spreading the fake news

[alpine cove]

doubtful. nobody has been able to provide any information aside from "there's an issue", which means there almost certainly isn't one

[stone current]

the only lag from steamvr is opening it and having steamvr home open if not in vrchat then theres like slight lag from all the other vr stuff it runs but not noticable

[civic plume]

@umbral reef its an announcement i a 500+ member server 😂

[safe marsh]

@civic plume dm

[umbral reef]

Yea- But those server hosts are dumb-
And people here in arent

Thats the diffrence

[umbral oracle]

The usual rumors. You can tell because there's no information or evidence

[floral aspen]

it's bullshit

[alpine cove]

because by now someone would have more details. anyway i can check to see if your CPU has AVX, monty, but it almost certainly does if you have a beast computer

[stone current]

do u see anything in #announcements no then woof off

[floral aspen]

don't ever believe rumors about this game

[umbral reef]

Btw- If its an public VRC community mind throwing me the link so i can yell there 👀

[nocturne ibex]

@civic vine A friend of mine is having a similar issue. Thhey end up stuck in a T-pose and unable to move

[unkempt cliff]

Can somebody answer my question? Does the game run smoother if I install on the Oculus store since steam vr will not be open?

[stone current]

re upload the avatars to new blueprints

[civic plume]

Regarding me saying the security issue i have a photo of tupper confirming there is no security leak

[umbral reef]

@unkempt cliff Yes

[floral aspen]

yes, it should run smoother Jesse

[unkempt cliff]

Thank you.

[alpine cove]

@civic vine @nocturne ibex make sure you have normal controllers unplugged, it's an issue with the new update reading controllers as trackers

[fervent matrix]

If you are Sandy bridge or bulldozer 2012+ you have avx

[umbral oracle]

@nocturne ibex @civic vine Remove extra controllers

[umbral reef]

@civic plume Btw- If its an public VRC community mind throwing me the link so i can yell there 👀

[civic plume]

Is anyone getting connection issues?

[rough pulsar]

@nocturne ibex @civic vine Loadding in and being stuck in place in T-Pose means something is triggering VRChat's FBT code, likely an extra controller.

[vocal shard]

Scripting access when?

[nocturne ibex]

@alpine cove thank you 😃

[floral aspen]

if your cpu doesn't support avx it's old as fuck and it's time for an upgrade

[civic plume]

@umbral reef a photo of sent from a friend from a big server and i’m on mobile i can’t friend you lol

[umbral reef]

Ay snap

[stone current]

vrchat says its running at 45 fps some times but it stil looks like 15

[digital sparrow]

Imagine if the devs talked with the community more

[umbral reef]

@digital sparrow They did explain it all

[digital sparrow]

old version @stone current ?

[stone current]

no

[alpine cove]

Tupper has been answering questions in #user-support-old constantly for like 3 hours now lol

[safe marsh]

@digital sparrow Tupper has been answering #user-support-old like non stop

[stone current]

like the little fps thing in the menu when i turn my head sometimes drops to '45' but its laggy looking

[digital sparrow]

@alpine cove I mean more like in terms of Features that the community wants and why nothing was fixed in the supposed beta

[civic vine]

@rough pulsar a 360 controller? I've had it plugged in longer than I've had my headset and this is the first time this is happened

[digital sparrow]

@stone current r u in vr ?

[stone current]

was

[alpine cove]

not necessarily @floral aspen , it could also be a $60 cpu from last year or something. lol. @civic vine it's a thing with the new unity

[civic plume]

You’ll have to deal with it tupper is a busy man

[digital sparrow]

@stone current Then idk. My rift exp was fluid anywhere >30

[rough pulsar]

@civic vine You can also try pulling both triggers, but that might do weird things based on where the not-actually-a-tracker is in virtual space.

[civic plume]

there’s a lot on his plate atm

[floral aspen]

if someone thinks they can game on a $60 cpu they have bigger issues

[civic plume]

damn

[digital sparrow]

I want >Per Hand< gestures. So you could have 10 rather than 5

[umbral oracle]

It's a new bug. Vrchat ignores disabled selector in manage trackers

[alpine cove]

some of the people who have been posting about issues are using $60 cpus, lol. rough life.

[safe marsh]

Pentium G's 😂

[civic plume]

Oh boy it’s unfortunate

[rough pulsar]

@civic plume Could you DM me the screenshot of this claim of a 'security leak'?

[alpine cove]

it sucks that they were able to play before and can't now, but if you're playing anything below minimum spec, you should be fearing every single update because any one of them could kill your ability to play

[civic vine]

@@rough pulsar I'm pretty sure I bashed about every possible button combination, the controllers just wern't attached the avatar

[stone current]

i want animators to have vrchat params

[floral aspen]

the gesture system has been overdue for a rework for a long time. They've stated they want to rework it, it's just got a lot more important stuff out in front of it that needs to be finished first

[stone current]

make ur own gesture systems or animation system whatever bc u can use the params in any animator

[civic plume]

@rough pulsar sure

[stone current]

would be good update

[floral quiver]

Ooof i can no longer play vrchat

[alpine cove]

it would be really nice if the gesture system used a 'loadout' idea. so you can put like 30 gestures on your model, and just 'equip' them to certain hand gestures as you want to

[stone current]

ye but custom animator u could do that

[tacit plank]

Nobody has provided any technical information or details in this so-called "security leak", have they?

[stone current]

u can have a state machine and then just use the left hand and right hand params

[floral aspen]

people have been asking for custom animators for a long time

[civic plume]

there’s no security leak

[floral aspen]

no caffeine, they haven't

[stone current]

omfg does it say security leak fix in announcements

[civic plume]

that was my bad.

[floral aspen]

it's all hearsay, he said/she said, FUD

[primal island]

Hi, My ''Show build control panel'' Doesnt work, either settings in the new SDK and unity.. when I click it, no window shows up, help?

[vocal shard]

Dont take words like FIX from them too seriously

[rough pulsar]

Usual fearmongering that can be ignored.

Now if they provided evidence, that'd be something different.
And also new since I don't think it's happened with us lot yet.

[umbral oracle]

You have a script error for example an old version of dynamic bone @primal island

[umbral reef]

@primal island Got the right unity and SDK?

[near sky]

Happy to see a push to the Oculus Store. In my case until I make the switch. Been relying on the OpenComposite project until now.

[primal island]

Yes, I just installed the latest SDK and Unity

[alpine cove]

i'm super happy for the oculus version, can't wait to get home and see if performance is better