#vrchat-general-2
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the most beefy part ur primax will require is the gpu
because it has great fov, its light weight, very high interface and why not
Greetings
apples
@glossy wharf thats true but the mother board has its own power delivery, if its good it can go way over the 95watt limit.
you can leave all other stuff like in vive, but gpu will have to be better than the one that does it for vive
30 seconds is a bit of a long wait
Can we get slowmode turned off again, the chat has calmed down.
Or at least make it like 7 seconds
i agree i am in a rush here talking about this and gotta wait 30 seconds ffs, i think its enough now.
should i get the pimax with hand tracking or no.
My pc can run Minecraft with...shaders
default* shaders
I wouldnt get a primax 8k right now.
why not?
You’ll go blind faster
FIrst up, shipping wont start until 3 months in, which means they are still working on it and its not in a perfect shippable state, so its basically a gamble at this point. Second up, the 8K will probably not be smooth in most cases in VR, just like 4K wasnt possible with high graphic settings and 60 fps on the 1080ti. Imo the 8K is just a bait to get people in thinking they will get smooth hi res gameplay. I would wait until reviews are out, after the final end product actually ships, not some tech demo they are giving out to some reviewers and youtubers
Wouldnt be the first super great headset or accessory for vr that turns out to be trash.
if its not a big impact on ur budget then why not
It's not very widespread
youtubers are sometimes bought out
But i have a titan v and soon the 9900k????? so like what
i mean you can adjust the settings so it CAN run fine but not sure, i might just do it and say Yolo
so? the 1080ti was the highest end card for 4K and it wasnt able to sustain high graphic settings and 60fps, you now want to get 8K res and 90fps stable on something that requires even more power like VR?
might wanna go sli actually yea
Titan v is the second best graphic card in the market
but i have titan v, brb lemme search up what it can do lmao
Imo i would still wait until reviews are out, its a big investment, but if you have the money to throw around then have fun.
SLI isnt supported by anything anymore btw.
he is obviously rich, sai
let him waste his money how he wants i guess
or
Donate the money to oclac 
make oclac pay primax
Get a job you bum
he just is ok with going into debt?
People thinking just because they buy the most expensive shit they have +5 mil performance. In high end and enthusiast class hardware you pay a lot more for minimal performance gain compared to the differences on budget models to mid range models. 
im not rich, im 18 and lucky i actually save money properly.
SLI isn't very supported.. Maybe in the future when GPUs hit a bottleneck, but right now they're improving fast (while CPU speeds are basically constant)
titan V is a very well performing gpu nonetheless
Titan V compared to GTX 1080TI is only an 20% increase
You have a 25% performance increase comparing a 1080ti and a titan V, which means you can sustain 4k 60fps on ultra now, but probably not more.
wait wtf, we can't reeact to post here anymore ?
Dude- I save money a lot and work a lot- I cant buy an titan V 😂 or that cpu
i never said i would get the best performance, i just want the hardware to use it wether it runs good or not. at the end of the day i still get higher display i guess and fov
nope b/c of a user
you can always go lower than ultra tho
Yeah and a unstable framerate that will make you motion sick.
A lot of VR games have nearly no settings, and even then, whats the point of getting an 8K HMD when you turn settings down to look like minecraft???
i doubt it's only because of one guy
he kept asking people to emote on stuff
No svel- You know how these mods work...
One guy can cause problems and they just remove it all
@umbral reef i am 18 i dont pay those 10 grand bills like you 30 year olds lol
@umbral reef can you buy a car
If it's only 1 user kick/ban them don't let it affect 10.000 other people.. lol
Let me repost this aswell.
A lot of VR games have nearly no settings, and even then, whats the point of getting an 8K HMD when you turn settings down to look like minecraft???
It's a stupid purchase
look guys i need the critical real feed back to know what im gonna be up against so i appreciate this
If 60FPS 4K requires a titan, then a 8K would run at 15FPS
I am 19 my dude...
And Shofu, if i really wanted to yes i could get an lower end car but with insurance and gas prices it aint worth it
Buss much cheaper booi
oh dont make it dramatic now. It's not like minecraft and in most cases its a minor difference in graphics for a major speed boost
It’s worth it because car > job > money
jesus 3k for the titan v?
but you can make the display slightly lower res and keep the fov at like medium
8K is 4 times as big as 4K, is my point. In VR I'm not sure if you will even have the vram to display that
Monty, if you want to use it for gaming, you are going to look at one of the possibly worst solutions at the moment, no PC will be able to sustain it at all, under any circumstances, in most gaming scenarios, you will have to turn down rgaphics settings a lot and you wont have any of your improvements then, except for high fov on a low res that will look shit and stretched on your HMD.
Not really- School -> Payed internship + Free transport -> Money and education 
wait im older then oclac.... nd ikr, car insurence is exspensive
Btw Monty can you re-write the question?
cba scrolling through
ok @glossy wharf if i got a 5k would that be more worth it?
the question is to primax or not to primax
Dont get any of them until they are properly reviewed.
just go with rift
HTC Vive and Oculus is the best options for VR Atm
im looking at everything here, not just tunnel visioning it.
I also love how the comment on the Titan V on userbenchmark is literally
"I hope someone didn't get this for gaming..."
I have duel graphic cards 😎
so what is titan v used for mainly anyways sai?
Congrats, you have a waste of money with no gain in most games.
SLI is shit and not supported in most cases, it's better to just have a single strong card lul
It's probably good for gaming. It's just a bit wasteful
To get past the slow mode, just edit your messages lol
gotta get dat 2080ti for the 5% speed boost
The titan v is a production line card, you use it for video rendering as a coprocessor and for physics simulations and hard calculations. Usually universities build big pcs with a lot of those in SLI to do heavy calculations. You can also do a good amount of password cracking with those. @mighty galleon
Also, why not go to #general-media
i got it for gaming and rendering. unity blender sfm filmmaker too sometimes but i dont use that anymore
i use it for exactly what you said but with gaming aswell
ohhhh, yeah no that seems lie it would be very niche
random chat slowmode too slow
¯_(ツ)_/¯ Still absolute overkill and not worth it imo.
You realize those programs are cpu intensive not gpu intensive
Negative.
You can use GPU processing in most of those using CUDA acceleration.
rendering can be done on cpu as well as on the gpu, dw. It's not for nothing that people use gpu farms for this
same way people did crypto
crypto?
Dont talk about stuff you have no clue about shofu. Thanks. Usually render times go down drastically using gpu instead of cpu rendering and encoding.
right now im watching videos, researching, and eating some nice tacos about this topic.
crypto means bitcoins and such
Titan v for gaming?
not worth it at all
1080 TI / 2080 TI is your best options for the best GPU's for gaming lul
Titan v is an absolute waste of money for normal consumers
that's why Bakery exists
Sounds like someone has their head up their ass @glossy wharf
jufo your not listening, i use it for rendering also.
No, you are just constantly saying stuff about things you dont know about, you dont know about GPU acceleration, you dont know sli is trash.
Still not worth it
Oh god no. Not this again.
It'll bake lights with GPU instead of CPU and cut the time down by literally hours
What jufo is saying, its still not worth it, the performance improvement is minimal.
mic has a point, even my 1060 does it faster than my i7
the rtx 2080 ti actually has better performance than a titan V 
Yall sli-ing for vrc? 
Tru.
Also for anyone baking lights for big worlds look into Bakery lol
Only thing the 2080TI is worse at vs the titan is calculating gravity and ect
sooo.... eat your work
Imagine spending tons of money on enthusiast grade hardware that becomes mainstream a generation later and costs half or even less 
It renders way faster by default and outruns anything if its properly supported so...
Just teach your gpu to do the calculation 
arent these 2080ti's dying though? there was some issue with them i heard
Sure if you want to waste 3 grand into a gpu that's not worth it you're free to do it but you can get a cheaper and better card for like 1.5k max why don't you do that?
isn't it funny when people get quiet after they're proven wrong
Only the first few and it was an small sample size that had the problems
After they found it, recalled some and replaced there has not been any problems
titan v will last for a while tho
@civic plume
They are not dying, Montie.. They are only having issues with their components.
Gah!
isnt it funny when you accidently breath in laughing gas
thanks @umbral reef and @queen mango
Most of the time, the best things on the market are not worth the price. Best value is at regular high-end
So will the 2080 TI
It's newer as well so it will last longer with Ray Tracing?

yea but if you already have the titan v meh
all these things and i dont know a single thing any of it means
But it was 99% the founder edition that had that problems so...
gpus. those are gpus
so a 2080ti can drive a 7680x4320@60hz whilst the 1080ti can do 4k 60hz is that correct?
whilst my titan V can do 7680x4320 @ 60Hz
the same as a 2080ti????
It's literally easier to learn about GPUs than it is to complain about it sean. There's probably only like 10 common cards in use
well im not complainging about it, but im not tech savy, i'd forget it very easily
nearly the same. But can or can not I wouldnt say before trying out, its a huge resolution
2080 TI has better benchmark overall
Titan v beats the 2080 TI only at Parallax and Gravity which is between 7-15%
other spots the 2080 TI beast the Titan V with 30-40%
i am right now only lsitening to the helpful info im getting here, for the others bitching about rubbish im not paying attention.
@twin jacinth Thats in benchmarks though and not real gaming
And the 20 series performs fairly well in benchmarks anyway compared to real gaming
still gotta see the 30-40% difference in bench
Yeah true that
i will buy a 8k, jsut scale it i am not a freak ocd about that becasue tech will come soon that will operate it better but my titan v should handle it good. once i get a better cpu that will i guess be even better.
there. Also do a review or tell us how it goes, im quite curious
Anyways anyone you ask that has a bit over the average knowledge about hardware will tell you that the Titan V is a waste for normal consumers like us, unless you do some hardcore shit that requires the power of the Titan V
which i doubt from what you've said
pimax themselves have also hinted that the 8k might need 2x1080Ti to run well
BUT
adding a second 1080ti will not help unless the program or game is specifically optimized for SLI
Memorize it then. Hz is hertz, defined as s^-1, or "Times per second". 1050 is crap, 1060 is bad, 1070 is probably good, 1080 is high end. Adding "TI" puts it closer to the next tier of card. 2070 and 2080 (plus TI) are the new line of cards, 9XX is the older one, and 7XX or something like that is the older line
"rubbish"
people are actually telling you that it's a waste of money, and not worth especially since there isnt any "good" review of the pimax
but you do you
Watch LinusTechTips video on the Primax
is pretty good
thats obvious about the sli stuff
you know from what i see in this chat.. those who are mad are just jealous for others having something more expensive even if its kinda pointless.. we all live once we can do what we want. why the complaints geez. im out for the night this level of things is getting bit much to me now
yeeeeet
Ooooof assuming that
we're trying to help him but we're getting shit in return saying it's rubbish

@vocal shard i 100% agree
i am here for critical feedback, a few people who dont know anything about this stuff roll in and pretend they know it all. i fish them out easy so its all good. i have the info i need so thank you guys.
wait what did i miss?
People by human nature likes listening to their own point of view. Very rarely will someone change their own opinions
you missed people not listening to common sense and someone that got here and got no idea what is going on
Getting the best cards is not really cost effective, but people can do what they want. If somebody can affort it, good on them!
@vocal shard Its the same with apple for me
I dislike it for plenty of valid reasons but the second i bring them up i am just a hater and nothing else
Even though i have used the products myself for a while
Same goes for these cards, its just plain fact that the Titan V isnt really worth its money and cant run everything and anything unlike what got claimed.
oh hey xins been a while
Okay.. But don't go complaining when your bills start breaking from it
oh god what’s with this 25 second slowdown timer
im not saying who was speaking rubbish, just a few. but thanks for the help this is good. i am your tester, ill go buy this high shit and come back telling you all if its worth it or not. im the scout
@olive mulch Chat was going bonkers with the network issues cmplaint. Ruubick had to mute General chat
That was several hours ago
Is it your own money? You shouldn’t waste it willy nilly
it hurts my autism
xinssss love me
Yea.. It got in my nerves as well
perhaps @mighty galleon
i originally bought my titan V for rendering apps and stuff and ive always used it for VR and AAA games, it all runs fine. my HTC Vive runs super good on 500% and a added 20% ontop with this card. but thats different as its super sampling and not straight 4k screens. i am not perfect at this so thats why im here to ask.
A situation like that is pretty hard to moderate, Xins. Even Advert admitted it.
oh yea actually you could also try supersampling to double the res and just watch how well it performs
"Bonkers" usually meaning less than 10 seconds between messages, lmao. And for every complaint, there is another complain about that complaint. Same in bug-report. People yelling at duplicate reports are worse than the duplicates
Its not really tho- Just macro the information and timeout users who start shitposting
hard to do tho when you have a lotof people talkin at the same time yknow
eh, it sucks because even my domain is on slowmode
VRchat was pretty bad yesterday though so i understand why people flooded the chat
didnt play it yesterday
typical for any game, forums dont get blocked simply because they get flooded with questions why the game doesn't work.
For a server with 10000 people online, it sure is calmer than most public discord server
Couldn't do it yesterday either.. Had to focus on my assignments that time
Well, not many peeps come to chat. Most of the time, they lurk
Discord should have actual pins (Sticky messages, pins, headers/footers, whatever you will call it)
Time outs all the time, getting thrown out of instances and back home or into another new public instances
5 seconds between time outs, crashes etc etc etc
personal pins and server pins ^
Today and yesterday was honestly the only times I’ve used this server
why
Probably busy with work?
perhaps
VRchat wasn’t working on Sunday or Saturday
hiyo~
It was working
just not optimal
-hugs the pure gem-
epic
Came here to check people’s point of view
h e l l o
Alright, Imma go check on VRchat to see if it will bork on me
Remember a few weeks ago. The sounds were broken LUL
Yep. And I was pretty much pissed about it
i only just got back after a couple of months
I only go on here to check if the servers are fine or use it like a 2d vrchat when servers are down
but you cant touch people here
You can’t touch people in vr either
yes you can
sort of
No, everyone is a disembodied ghost affected by in world gravity.
you can try though
You phase through others and communicate through a mic on your disembodied name tag
im tired
This better not crash on me
I’m guessing servers are still trash?
Friends+ worlds are funny
People exceeds the player limit. I remember playing with 100 people at the same time
nice
I think we can all agree it would be best to avoid playing VRChat for now and spend more time on superb online games. Like Fallout 76.
yeah
Pretty much what I’m doin.
it just works
VRChat's doing pretty fine rn
hey stylish may i see your pfp in its originality
nice ass
Bunch of perverts in here
Yep. 😁
Servers are fine yay
just a compliment
Guess you ain't heard from me.
Also, servers are now working properly, for now
Now I can die and be reincarnated as human
Reincarnate me when we have the oasis. 👌
i think ima reincarnate xin into a woman
reincarnate me when fortnite is dead
Reincarnate me when boys start having androgynous body proportions
Wait.. reincarnate me into the oasis as the anime chick in my pfp.
have what
I would reincarnate myself into an elephant seal. They are unparalleled on land and in water.
you’ll never be ur pfp stylishc4nt
and xin will sadly never be a woman
You never know that. 😋
feelsbadman
By the power of god and anime, I will be my pfp.
stylish COULD cosplay as that anime girl, get 3d scanned and turned into a mode;
Your pfp is what I imagine your type of people would look like @mighty galleon
my pfp is me
Yes
but whats "my type of people"
oh snap
I guess a depiction of what a modern weeaboo is 😎
actually im not a weeaboo, i never use japanese words and i dont think japan is the greatest thing in the world
it’s obvious that oman is a superior country to us al
Yes, the greatest thing in the world is meat sandwiches and the Grand Canyon
Ladys and Gentlemen. its done
monty what are you into more? men or women
i see the new titan is coming soon so ill get that i guess
Titan XX
a what
neither @mighty galleon thats why i have all this tech lol
so you're into xin ok
I rather do a machine tbh. Humans are just getting more retarded.
ikr
so you're into advert chan
oh boy
Debatable, but public schools do offer special education class for the mentally handicapped
like you shofu
i bought the 8k and i see the 2080 Titan based is coming soon, its pretty fresh only today announced. after that ill set sail for my 9900k and im all done
then i will get a girlfriend...
I don’t mean those people.. I mean us all in general. We haven’t changed a single thing about how schools work.
monty how much money do you have
@olive mulch you’re already more corrupted than me. You are a furry
oh yeah school is still running on an outdated and obsolete system
jokes
Hence, why you’re all seeing people homeschooled more.
ok, and shofu i like furries, the female furries are sexy
Tmi
nice
nice
More like groups
just avoid the serious groups that see vrchat a bit too mcuh as a second life
lol
u rite, its my second day on the game and i haven't played it yet
There are groups like midnight society, Ching Chong gang, oof gang, kakashi clan, etc
here @mighty galleon
i have enough to afford the pimax 8k for now, wait about 4-6 months for either 9900k or the new Titan, then whatever i get first maybe another 5-6 months and about the end of next year ill be done with it
The pimax - December 2018 plan passed
(waited since August 2018)
The Titan - Arrival when released
~money around March/April 2019
9900k intel processor - atleast 1.5-3 months after Titan
monty, do know, idk a single thing about computers
same
welp
So i have that titan V which is based on the 1080 series i beleive and the new titan will be based on 2080? so yeah..
tf is a titan thing
but the new titan info just came today so ill need to do hard research on that for now. And for now goodnight.
(that i can afford)
he rich
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/12/01/multiple-nvidia-leaks-reveal-brand-new-rtx-titan-gpu/#589180232b86
this might be the new titan im talking about, will look tomorrow bye for now
In before titan Rex cost more than an actual trex fossil
again im not rich, i am single.
makes sense
exactly common sense
Single ready to eat that booty
im single too but ill try for xins when he rebirths in the next life as a woman
the single part makes sense
When your pc cost more than my organs FeelsBadMan
my pc costs more than my sleep schedule
Sadly, my pc costs more than my life.
sooo
lol
stylish, if i take your pc, does that means your life is mine? if so hmmmmm
I’m exaggerating. You guys are worth way more. You can actually buy a fairly nice house for one kidney
you cant take my pc i live on Venus.
Is that supposed to be a flirt?
nope
people say that, but I have yet to have someone tell me where to sell a kidney 
I kinda want to get on the organ harvest business
Basically, become a serial killer?
lol why would you sell yours, just pick one up from the supermarket... seriously guys get your head in the game
so whats the answer stylish
@vast lintel it's not being a serial killer if you don't do the killing
No, I’m a hero Detroit needs, but don’t deserves
30 second stop 👀*!?* What is this madness
bye @mighty galleon it was great hanging out with you and the rest of you freaks 💜
Goodnight !
night human
@mighty galleon pretty much, considering it’s the only good thing I have in my life and it is pretty much my life. @vocal shard also, wasn’t talking to you.
jk gonna work in unity lol
time to steal a pc
You said you were talking to meh*?*
@vocal shard I see you are a man of culture. You made your pfp yourself?
Yeah I did
I made mine on my puny iPhone
I made mine through screenshot.
Yours seems like it could make a great simple 3d avatar 🤔 @hollow umbra
i made mine with a selfie
My avatar is already the best in vrchat. It’s wojak
Oh... Well mine would take quite some time to be intigrated into 3d.. And I need to use a more simplified model if I'd want to make it
F
goldsnake come here
hmm?
-pats the gold-

🥶
ITS A BOX
Scuffed ascii 
It’s the new emoji on iPhone. One of them at least..
do i look
like i read BLOCK
👏 pic or didn't happen 👏
Can’t send pics. No permission.
send to me in dm
Ah yes but works with links like imgur 
🥺🥵🥳🥰
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519103060493205504/519113150981865473/image0.png?width=377&height=670 they look like some weird emojis @vast lintel
soo what now
You just aren’t used to them. But, there’s a lot more.
if im using an emoji its a blue moon, so run away
oh, it's because you're using a celphones emoticons
Cell emotes 
Reeee
@covert chasm @mild acorn @placid umbra what is this authentication problem ?
<.< @vocal shard
Please read #announcements, #server-status and #user-support-old before pinging admins.
You didn't need to ping all of them.
This boi
...or any of them, who are most likely sleeping (or trying to) at 4 AM. Please check out rule 23 #rules
Hmm. What timezone are you in, Aev? Just a thought.
No I meant him. Gah
aev's in my time zone
Oh.. Uhh, sorry. I kinda had a moment of dumbness there.
is dumbness tasty?
Kind of.. but it lacks a lasting feeling in your mouth
sooo spoiled egg nog is better

Umm.. Not when the stomach hates it
<.<
It was a first-time mistake. Pretty sure most new users don't notice it at first glance
Dunno..
it's not an excuse
first thing you should do before posting in a discord is to read the rules
and it0s clearly in the rule that you should get kicked if you ping an admin for non-emergency
it says "may" 🤔
anyway in regards to the issues when will maintaince be over a lot of users are getting stressed thanks
tupper
shouldn't say "may" tbh
The current issues aren't related to the previous maintenance that occurred last week.
tupper when is random chat free from the grasp of slowmode
wed be banned already if rules were that strict. im an ass lol
never
a few people can't behave, so we all get punished
it's school all over again
whats the point of this server anymore, no intro, has slowmode its tearing us apart
Lmao time to yeet out here then even more then if we arent even allowed to chat normally without waiting ages
what do you mean ?`this is perfectly normal, it's like in real life
you wait 30 seconds between each sentence, that's how we do it, right ?
You seen he photo's bahka
And thats not even all of what happened without mods being there to do stuff
What are the current issues related to, then? Or can't you say?

oh hey rokk, been a long while
is it possible to login or no?
If ya lucky yes, else nope
Apparently yes
Try to log in
some peps can log in some cant its quite random
aight cool i decided to work on a bug project right when vrchat breaks lol
i tried today just to just and i got in
ive been fine all day, some havent
akumano why does your name sound familiar
remnants
Vrc is fine its just the minority that's loud 
apparently it's enough for the minority to show one time to complain so all of us get punished
really great, lovely
Umm.. You mean us? Don't get the wrong idea.
gets the wrong idea
lmao i mean the issue is big enough that you can barely login, some people call vrc home, so you can expect this response

Okay.. You going to the bed, with me..
people calling vrc home is just sad and pathetic tbh
kinda
how so? its a game obviously but you have everything in the game to do, you can create your own place and do whatever you want pretty much lol
because it's a game
if your entire life is around vrchat, you really need to rethink your priorities
some people can't go more than 1h without playing that game and get very angry
it happened quite a lot that people started to insult us here and got kicked because they can't play and went apeshit
Plus, you can't do your rl jobs inside VRChat.
thats just plane addiction there svel and its sad
That's the thing it's a game and an early stage one, so stuff like this is bound to happen, shit going wrong, or very wrong 
@queen mango Says you 🙃
👀 Oi!
tupper i demand random chat be free from the slowmode!
i mean im just saying id expect the response, also vrchat has totally made me rethink what i actually wanna be, 3d modeling is fun as hek
No tupper don't listen, increase the time to 40 seconds
tell us more tupper, i'm actually interested
that is a lot btter
2 hour slowmode in #general-media 
We demand 5 minute slowmode

LOL 2 hour
i will cook bahka and serve him to oclacs kids if that happens!
It'd just turn into people talking with edits
I'm really feeling the sting in my eyes from that comment, Tupper
yup
Thats kinda what we did last night anyway so-

wait what oclac
Uh oh still no reactions 
i had 240 hours every two weeks on vrchat at one point lmao
<.<
oh yeah, can we get back reactions please ? those were fun
about 17 hours everyday lmao
Sorry kids, no reactions ever again
Lol

At least the slowmode has been turned down a bit
we dont need reactions
We can still post emoji so I don't really know
we actually do
I don't know why it would be removed I mean
Yea. Like 8 hours ago. Ruubick had to mute this channel because of that
messages had the reaction slots filled to the brim
wow, what a tragic thing to happen
As someone with vrchat-general unmuted, I appreciate the slowmode as this channel is generally pretty noisy for no good reason
it really justify the removal of reaction for everyone else in the whole server
-hugs the lyuma-

The devs have more things to worry about than spammers in a channel.
Plus I heard the servers are working fine now
How about we remove Voice chat from VRC to speed up the servers?
yes
🐱
How about we remove the human part of Vrchat to speed up the game?
also nice pic quinix
Thanks Seam Whitewire
Hmm.. maybe removing VRChat all together will speed it up even more owo
-pats the quin-
No
Next update would make the game about INF times faster
I've had very fun experiences being mute and having nobody in the room talk. Could be fun to have a mute mode (like worlds that just disable voice chat completely within them), and you can still write with pens
Yeah that won't take the whole point of VRC at all
You can make a room that blocks all audio
📣 📢 🔊 🔉 🔈 🔇
Just set the custom voice rolloff to 0 from the begining
Lol with 0
Say.. You, Sai, and Sparky know some things about coding.
You could offer yourself to help the team, but that would probably take 3 years of coding experience as far as the guidelines are concerned.
I think not?
Quick someone make it a thing before it flies off
quick someone give quin the love they dearly need
3 years coding
And 4 in unity 
3 years of experience is either a lot, or nothing at all
its more like a start
I wanna help too, got 3 and a half days of coding experience
Lol
I've made a few websites over the past 10 years, but none of them have been very good or advanced. If I had spend a month straight actually studying, I would be been better.
So time is not always a good measurement like that
There are still some things, tho.. That I don't know about.
I know LUA, learned it in Minecwaft, its easy like supper hard to learn like.. yeah..
5s slowmode is pretty much the same as not being in slowmode tbh
Lol, computercraft?
i also understand assembly but i doubt that has any use in VRC :/
Lua*
Well in coding I don't think you could ever know all the syntaxes and cheats
I love Lua tbh
oh hey again heartlexx
yup, was the only darn reason i played the game xD

I got most acquainted with Lua when I got into PAYDAY 2 modding, I also made a small game in Lua using Love2D
Hallu~ 
whats lua
Lua is a scripting language
Computercraft was fun. You can line of 50 turtles and make them mine 50 blocks vertically and deposit items into an enderchest
@safe marshhmm your right, Tupper plz increase it to 10 seconds
You can also crash the server with a redstone script, or crash people's OS if they have that computercraft extension which can speak
At one point i attempted to make a base that would self repair on the moon. Not an easy task.. at all
quinix can you recieve my pat
Purrz like the darn furry i am
You'd need some way to discover the damage done, that's the hardest part
good furry

Most fun I've had is probably just running 20-block wide frame ships, not giving a shit about any protection plugin put in place
that was fun yeah
That, and various hidden game mechanics. I was killing people in quantum armor using a stone sword once, and since it was doantion armor on that server, they got super angry
I still have w world i never finished as my friend was in trouble for not completing something. Till this day she still has no ability to play again. I cry..
F
That was back in Tekkit. The right combination of brewed dragonblood beer can just stack strength infinitely (And protection 5. Ever tried swimming in lava without armor on in a pvp arena? It's fun!)
Oof
I never got into MC that much though >.<
I mean i made mudpack's, servers, and retextures but that's about it
I have over 10k hours. Name a modpack or game version (from before 1.10) and I will tell you how anyone can dupe and crash the server with ease
Not looking for that xD
Every plugin can be broken too. It's hard being a server admin in Minecraft...
Lmao
lmao how would you break a plugin that wont interact with a player through cmds
I once joined a guys server with a friend to help him test, but he was a big asshole. So when I found his efficiency 5 axe (that he had spawned in) I used nodus client to reduce his treehouse to a hole in the ground
Ya'll know where to move.
Sure

Im gonna stay here, hacking MC doesn't interest me the slightest
Aside from that, if you’re thinking about coding for the VRChat Team you’d need to learn C# and C++ and I asure you that switching from Lua to C# will not be easy.
I can code already, i understand a part of C++ and with some effort im sure i have the basics within a week
Just dont.. feel like it
Or just, you know, be good at 3D modelling and make stuff for them to use. The public avatars are absolute trash
implying they'll just use avatars like that
I have 19 worlds and 3 public ones. Over 50 avatars and people requesting me every now and then to sell them. Got that part covered xD
You make em by scratch ?
If they are Frankensteined, not good enough
You actually would need to make them from 0
I don't get the notion of being paid for frankensteining shit together
oy quin, still have those robot avatars you made waay back in the day?
Yoink, my shit now, lemme put it together and sell
Lmaoo
Morph3D Nicole is entirely scuffed
^
something that annoys me even more is when people offer money for you to send a publicly available model, just look for it lmao
It's just amazing honestly. The feet are completely and utterly broken, the cleavage extends so far that you can look through the model, and the neck isn't weighted correctly
It’s nice now that you can favorite the avatars now, but people don’t take advantage of it
I'm eagerly awaiting the day when male avatars aren't just reskinned lens
i guess i just dislike commissions that aren't from complete scratch
Gosh trying to explain what my models are is kind of impossable
I agree with you there DeeJay
I now see people asking like 50 bucks for a model they got from MMD and some little edits to it. Its pretty bad...
I suppose the same could be said about female avatars mostly being the tda base
eh, i understand it to a degree
Back in the days that got you a full conversion from a FF avatar for like 10 bucks
no one has real ucustom avatar money
honestly think I have around 20 or so that aren't based on tda
No, the problem is the people you want to make you a scratch avatar won't do it even if you throw money at them
frankensteining makes sense, theyre like dress up dolls
When I used to do commissions people would go up too like 200$, I was like nOooOoOnonono. Just for like a simple custom.
I suppose it's being paid to do something and not to own the model, if you take it that way, it's pretty legit. But then again, some of these people have the audacity to not give the model files and just upload it to people
I mean in the end thats just my opinion on it. if people are ok with paying people for small edits/frankensteins, all the more power to them
theyre not just paying for the model, but a skill, no matter how minor, that they dont have
put in the time to learn
An easy skill at that
paying for convenience
They aren't selling the model, they are selling themselves to do something 
A year ago Cats wasnt a thing
there we go, the convenience
They sell a model that they modified...
What isnt allowed to be modified at all... What makes it agianst the law 👏
Basically, unless allowed too
what
Seyak, the amount of fair use avatars is extremely small and even smaller when people earn money off it
I know, lmao. Just mentioning
Creator can set the rules and such on DA, but because they aren't registered by proper instances, he can't legally claim them and stop people from doing stuff to the model
Depends ghost
The second i make something new its copyrighted and i can enforce it
Even if i add no rules at all too it
And rules just make it more vague but in the end- The original creator wins and there original rules count
A lot of TDAs are just frankesteins themselves made for mmd, they have no right to tell us not do the same 
but mmds are not new?
they are put together parts, if u count that as new, then people making other stuff from those models also counts as new, no?
unless it's 100% from nothing, new textures, new mesh, etc
Its simple really. If you own the model, do whatever, if not, respect the given rules of the owner.
They removed Unity from the list of games in Discord
same for blender i think, they both do not get detected
Fuck what the owner thinks half the time
Why even
@earnest harbor same tbh, we need more non-Len male avatars
Problem is that Len is one of the most widely used bases and also one of the only good ones
Especially when it comes to the more "cutesy" models
"Use it however you want just no 18+ stuff" for example. Eitehr destribute it or not, don't try to police what I do with information saved on my HDD
oh boy don't get me started on that... "no editing my model without my permission" when the model had so many issues I dropped fixing it after someone else put in 2 hours and I put in another 4 hours into the thing on just bones..
They get to choose if I can destribute it, I guess. But I will do whatever I want with it locally
Dont confuse Original owner with uploader though..
its because 18+ is against most mmd rules
it didn't even work in mmd either, it was completely scuffed
What do you mean MMD rules?
deviantart MMD models are shit, you putmore work into fixing them than creating one lol
Mine was pretty good 
actually I had mum help me with it but we both just gave up after a while @lost agate
That's like saying .fbx rules... It's just a way to arrange vertex, bone and such information in a file. I don't see how there can be any rules associated with it
I haven't browsed any MMD stuff for like 3-4 months and happy about it
theres a whole set of rules tda and most base makers have laid out.
I only use Source lately. get my models from patron and they are free to do whatever with.
@earnest harbor I wonder how she's doing
I rarely get full models from DA
It's like people who're trying to ban encryption. They're trying to outlaw math. It's just not how it works
people ignore, some choose to follow
The model I've been using lately has a scuffed right hand just like so many other Lens
Two stray vertices on the right thumb and the wrist itself is painted too sharply to the hand rather than the forearm
Left hand is fine
???
Delete it and mirror the other? Or something
Also the knees look awful and I gotta fix them at some point
Mirroring isn't always as easy as people say
It is though
typically jp users fpllow but theres more rulebreaking in western mmd
guilty of uploading a couple "don't upload to vrchat" models >.>

off with the head
actually main one of them
but did it before they put in the vrc rule soo grandfathered to be an exception to the rule 
gasp is that the yuumi with the awesome avatar world yuumi? @sour zephyr

I got a question for you about your ot-six edit
maybe
The thot yuumi
no slut shaming 👆 it's my choice
lol
I need that knife shape key 
@earnest harbor make new shape key and scale it to 0.. ?
Okay from now on you're gonna take the slot of 1 slut I'm gonna respect
Cause you're my bralis
brolukas
thot with a thot avatar smh

don't bully yuumi, you heathens
I wonder if they got any progression with the servers. I know they are working hard on it, but a little update now and then about things they found out or a simple "i think we found something, stay tuned" would be neat ^^
but first I gotta put an m4 onto my hk416 and finally (after 9 months) figure out how to make a gun shoot..
@lost agate they aren't really known for communication tho.
They are though owo
uh
in VRC they communicate all the time

yeah offhand ingame info isnt really communication in the wide sense most peopl want
i was talking about using soundwaves to inject data into your ears. Let me find the joke as it went right over your head >:3
oh, they have been known for droping info ingame lol thats what i thought you meant lol
which is false 90% of the time
Lel no i was making le joke ^^
Rumors about things that started as a idea or misunderstanding is not a new upcoming feature
mmm not sure about that, its usually just ideas or "well we looked at this"
like the 2017 thing
ok so there are things that i heard before that i know how they started. When something is actually going to happen its a bit defriend. Rumors usually change. As i heard from people it was gonna be unity 2018 but it was not T^T
I hope there is gonna be a LTS for 2018 soon...
btw are servers stable rn
THanks so helpfull no i mean right now dude
go in-game and tell us then
...
Ofc its helpful, there hasnt been an announcement so its not officially stable.
When ppl dont understand what you are asking for ... all i wanted to know was if you are being DC every15 seconds rn or not only reasoning for asking this was that i am not at home rn
Some of my friends have been online for over an hour now, you can likely get in and play
Thanks :D
Ask the 5.5k people online
while the 15 sec dc there were about 4k ppl online so uh i dont really trust those numbers
Might be because it's different for anyone and everyone
we also dont know what is counted as online tbh
uhhhh
Well either way thanks to every answer even the ones that weren't that helpful :D
logged in users...
what...its a great estimate
Ah ok :D
@sterile drift did you show people the thing
so is there a way to watch live streams on VRChat?
i wanted to have some of my VRChat friends join me for the game awards event
alright
still getting authentication issues
okay
when someone ask for it in the canny
^
Lol
In all fairness that seems like something they would implement
It's already been asked for, I think.
There will always be a subset of people who explicitly do NOT want info like that shown about them, though. (Not me, idc either way, but they do exist)
again, like everything else, they should give us the choice
so we can allow for that info to be displayed or not
why? that's very common in most games and nobody questions it 😃 Very handy when you feel like 'cleaning' your inactives
i got some friends that i met a day or two and they are great so we add each other and then disappear for ever , eventually forgeting the nickname of said person n such
because it's not their business to know that, simple as that 🤷
again, give the choice to people, let them choose what they want
Couldn’t tell you their reasoning. A good amount of my friends hide what they’ve been playing on their steam profiles just so people don’t snoop their activity though
Nothing wrong with o p t I o n s
paranoid people
But again idc either way
the only time i felt like doing such a thing was when i called sick for work and i wasnt rly ill so i didnt wanna some of my coworkers knowing i was just home playing games or something lmao
If you see someone with their last online status missing and it bothers you; remove them :p
"paranoid people"
how the fuck did you come with that conclusion ?
i could go full illogical and tell you that you are a creep and stalker with that logic 🤷
anyways back to work, bai 
i want a feature to make vr only instances and VC disabled
Set windows explorer.exe as VRChat in discord and make everyone think you play it 24/7
Not worth the argument. Dude just wants to purge his friends list and is annoyed that people hypothetically would not permit that lol
dint do it i swear
They are paranoid. My friend would always disconnect and close all his steam application when he get logged out by a client
Just make your own world
still love it when ppl think crashers can fry their mobo
ppl who talk in vrchat ruin the game
I know right people should head gesture only and not be social in any way
@hasty wedge it’s a social game

yes but my social is superior than ur definition
talking ruins the game 
People who breath the same air I do should have their lungs collapse
.
nani
Smug you started talking because of me tho 
only talk with u guys tgo 
.
People who walk the same direction as I do should have their kneecaps broken
You talk to your other friends who arent in bm
Welp, atleast it's only 5 seconds now

like idk how many ppl ive blocked at this point when their name plate lights up
they are aeen as worthless in my eyes

wait, you were a mute before, smug ?

Pretty much
🤢
bLocked
Smug is a spoiled child
just in case :3
New vrchat update. Remove mirrors.
^
because servers issues still arent fixed, so people could go apeshit a any given moment
And why did they remove reactions 😭*?!*
How am I gonna stare at myself for hours then 
because some guys reacted too much on 2 mmessages, so the mods thought it was normal to remove the reactions from the whole server
You typed ^, wdym
I feel like lag would go down immensely if there wasn’t mirror
make ur avatar public and get everyone to switch to it, then u can stare at urself always
Oh yes good idea
Yes
Camera pretty much do the same thing and they are client side
Yeah but I’m trying to look at my ass you feel
^

just move the came there

Now Vrchat-general has become private public-lobby 😐... Which makes the public lobby even more useless
Remove mirrors and have server side cameras for everyone
Yes
wut why lol
remove local player input n make everything server side so we lag behind our avatar OwO
Instead of mirrors @rigid crescent
Which apparently are being removed
I doubt they’d get removed
VRChat would be better without voice chat, mirrors, VR, or custom avatars
Cameras are already friends only already
you know what remove movement to
@languid beacon it would just be Vrchat discord at that point...
But mirrors ):
Just make us default unity cubes n put us on a plane with default skybox n let us move around to communicate
10/10
I wanna be a sphere not a cube
lower size to 0.1 so we get punished for attempting to move C:
No need to add text chat @vocal shard
#spherelivesmatter
That’s what discord is for
Yes exactly
Make rigid bodies interact with other rigid bodies of other models
spheres too unopimized, need bricks
Man racist
@small wing 
Rigid bodies DO interact with rigid bodies on other avatars
bricks too unoptimised, need quads
YES n make it 1 solid color without lighting
@gaunt scaffold if only i had discord nitro 😦
just unlit
Imagine if vrchat was a 2D mmo

I mean it’s basically The Oasis
oh god, my inventory would reset every year, would never even look at the cash shop
I meant 2d, gay auto correct
You are all sick 😂😂
just dont use the sacred pointing robot one, or else imma get in trouble @gaunt scaffold 😉
ok :D
yeet
🤔 ig not much would change if it were 2d mmo, would still have spent 6 grand on a free game 
6 grand 
wait wat
;-; could have bought potatoes instead
Cats mmd detector. Automatically block all avatars that uses mmd or cats plugin. Mixamo and custom rigging are the only one allowed
what if you just make vrc a terminal
Wtf did you spend 6 grand on holy
why mixamo allowed
Standard shader only
oculus, 3 replacement wires, kinect, new pc, new motherboard cause kinect fried it, vive, vive full body, and a few more replacement things ;-;
Auto smooth
Mixamo is a meme
I love all 8 gestures being called Mixamo.com
Mixamo is allowed because you get some pretty interesting results
Holy shit same, but I ended up saying fuck oculus cause I had issues with it, and just bought vive with the trackers ;u;
2 grand outta pocket shocked I didn’t get kicked out
hugs zects I FEEL UR PAIN, but my vive busted because the wire wore out so now im back on a refurbished oculus since my other one busted
that happened to m friend, the kinevt fried his mobo
saaaame thooo
Oh nooo ;-;
Auto steam user blocker would be a cool feature
After I switched honestly I was hooked and haven’t had any issues with it so far
devs should just rollback the latest patch no?
I also bought vive after oculus but i switched back to oculus cause i cant live with those awful wands
Even after a custom rig, I run stuff though cats to set up the shape keys properly
"ya u can just wire it instead of buying an adapter"
I need wireless 
same 🤔
@void blade what is that supposed to fix?
Cords are overrated and annoying
the latest connection issues?
then we would have to relaunch instead of messages autodismissing when it black screens 🤔
Cords are the future
I heard some problems w wireless
it started with the latest patch
Corded oculus controllers FTW
Everyone who I know with wireless says they had no issues 🤔
@void blade it didnt tho
vives official wireless is best from what I hear :3
Do you guys play standing up
I wanna try owo
I need it :<
On the floor?
Same LOL
ya XDD
xD
Trying to be comfy all the time tbh
I got rid of my bed for tracking space
When your life is vr
Oh no
I sit on my chair
sleep with with vr
Iv took a nap once, staying up@all night until the day
I sleep in vr 5% of the time, and thats the only time people join on me so they think all my hours are sleeping ;-;
It’s even worse when you’re on vr and fall asleep in a public world cause you’re so comfy 
what I did yesterday cx
i doze off a lot in vr
It’s worse when you have leg trackers as well
You must have some soft floors
Lmao
my friend has like, furnature avatars n just follows me around with a bed
Never been lewded so much in my life
would've lewded u 100%

crawling ur way at the speed of light
LOL sneaky snake
;-; I dont wanna get up, would use playspace mover but im too lazy to raise my arm
The chad seated play vs the virgin standing play
Do it
I always set my play space before I lay down cause once it’s done I’m not getting up or moving
psssh, if u play in seated play what motivates u to stand up
plus it breaks my immersion uwu
If we have both types of sensors already (vive and oculus) will we be able to use knuckle controllers with rift headset?
Fall asleep while cuddling in a mirror uwu
vrc experience, hell ya
hey zects, u should add me in-game so we can snuggle before they remove it 
Oh hell yeah
DrPotato, hmu
The next gen vr should just be a full spandex suit used in the movies. I wouldn’t mind wearing one tbh
I have 380+ hours of exclusive standing play. Standing + fbt is super immersive
I’ll add when I get out of bed 
;w; new cuddle buddy
All my hours are me sitting in a chair or laying in bed with trackers ;u;
I lost 40 pounds since I got vr lol
@void blade it started before the patch and its not the patch, its server issues.
Lol
gimme hq depth cameras and software to outline my skeleton with fake vive trackers so I can be nude in fbt without anything attached
I got full body so i can sit down
^^^^
Best $ spent
I legit just bought full body to sit down tbh
I neither gain nor lost any weight. My biceps have gotten strangely veiny though
Best 400 bucks ever
Sitting on floor with legs crossed impress people
I got mine to do the splits n lay down >w<
Splits oh no
T pose
I tried doing that once
but with the legs
It didn’t end well LOL
Never knew lifting 2 pounds for 8 hours straight can do that to you
oh lol, I just go till my balls hit the floor owo
LOL
Ive always been slim and muscular irl
That’s a sight to see owo
Same
hewwo, powice?
Worse part about vr is the occasional piss break. Your avatars according to friends turn into a broken abomination
I used to deadlift 350 and bench 225 when i used to go to the gym
Just use a cup
Ew
Easy problem solved
I already have a cup to drink out of
XD, I pull off my feet trackers n then hold them up high n turn them off so I'm eternally doing a hand stand while im afk
Don't wanna mix the two up
Wow you troll I’m telling your secret >:(
@glossy wharf too many players maybe ?
Eating/drinking when playing sounds like a disaster
What
Everyone drinks in vr
Just bring your whole setup to the bathroom
I made a dent in my wall once I probably ruin my pc if I have a drink near by
put a bucket in your room
just mute urself when u have to go, or dont
@gaunt scaffold
just saw discord nitro classic
If you mute yourself you’re a wuss 😎
removes bed for fbt space, moves toilet and kitchen to room, works at vrc so u never have to leave game, lives in vr
@void blade no, its networking and server issues
that would be the dream
Perfect life right there
Imagine thinking you never leave the game when you work for them
6 months and i can have a "vr bed room"
btw for all
Its more like you spend so much time that you dont want to play it anymore
"you never leave ur house anymore, u just get stuff delivered"
"yep, and I live eternally as an anime girl now"
Being flamed by users that are being cunts
I purchased a place just for vr
6400 hrs, I still want more ;w; 73% of 2018 was spent in vr for me
When you buy a house for just vrc
I have 800 hours
Imagine getting a free game delivered to your doorstep, having an amazing customizable experience and still flaming them for server issues
Best $280000 spent
Hell yeah
yo, I'm moving late next year, when looking for a house I need: A. good internet B. tracking space C. a job
@glossy wharf its not perfect even though its in beta and free 
If vrchat was paid, no one would play it
Pls just drop a banhammer on them
I mean content creators would
@small wing
noice
Yes ofc no one would play it cause you couldnt use mmd avatars
if scripting was allowed, even limited, i'd pay :3
Lmao- You where not here last night but we got asked to not meme a streamer anymore even though they where spreading rumors about VR admins, the game itself and so on
No one would have avatars if the game would cost
Like bad rumor shit- lemme see if they saved the vod
they didnt
If vrchat offered micro transactions
You would lose your avatars
I have a decent job. Waiting on place to be finished building. Have and will have good internet



