#vrchat-general-2

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vocal shard
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either be completely consistent or dont do anything

glossy wharf
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^

tacit flame
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Wait who's NAS? (sorry if i sound as if i lived under a rock)

glossy wharf
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cancer group

vocal shard
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Nothing is consistent nowadays.

near saffron
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Some group

glossy wharf
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prefab using idiots

ember forum
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nothing is ever

obsidian pagoda
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i wish we had full dive and could fight people in VR

glossy wharf
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advert i paypal you 5$

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if you push the NAS leader off

obsidian pagoda
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if we disagree with mods we could just fuckin fight them

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smack the shit out of each other

inner cape
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MMaidOmegaLULds

vocal shard
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I'll pass.

subtle prawn
vocal shard
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until they drop the ban

obsidian pagoda
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check yo dms though sai

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bet he in there

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"gimme dat $5"

ember forum
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" gone when

vocal shard
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From the looks of it, soon.

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can't wait

inner cape
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Hold up

vocal shard
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omg

inner cape
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I gotta meme it up

vocal shard
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i just looked at the top list

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you will have to remove a lot of names

obsidian pagoda
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GUYS

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I GOT A BETTER IDEA

vocal shard
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Now you know why I said I was lazy.

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wtf

obsidian pagoda
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EZ

ember forum
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gimme mod I'll do it in 5 secs

queen mango
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Might have to be here for a while to have a chance of becoming one

inner cape
vocal shard
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and also not being a shit head like me

queen mango
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Real inconspicuous, Ghost

vocal shard
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all chance is gone for you if you do that

ember forum
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dw all I planned to do is post pepe pics

queen mango
near saffron
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Kermit safe bet

obsidian pagoda
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hello guys join my clan

near saffron
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How about nah

obsidian pagoda
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Network Attached Storage

inner cape
tacit flame
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nope

near saffron
vocal shard
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the fuck is that ghosto

inner cape
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I took the meme from the person who had pronouns in their name

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But they gone off the list

subtle prawn
obsidian pagoda
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me strong

vocal shard
glossy wharf
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im stronger

inner cape
obsidian pagoda
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nope

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Imagine RAID SSD NAS

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Insane network speeds

glossy wharf
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What do you want

obsidian pagoda
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okay i don't

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uhh

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know what that is

inner cape
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Moar

obsidian pagoda
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there we go

glossy wharf
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what

obsidian pagoda
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ez

inner cape
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We forgot the goal

glossy wharf
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Okay im done

inner cape
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Rip

vocal shard
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It's all on you guys if you all get kicked out.

obsidian pagoda
vocal shard
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kicked out for what ?

queen mango
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Hehehehe

vocal shard
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there isnt any rules against it

obsidian pagoda
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"no fun"

ember forum
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kicked out for keeping discord alive

vocal shard
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you can't just kick people because you feel like it

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Not saying I will.

inner cape
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If other mods do it's still stupid

glossy wharf
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I mean there's actually no rule against it

vocal shard
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what's the point of rules if you kick someone because you just feel like it ?

inner cape
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I bet they are gonna cover it up with "wrong channel usage"

obsidian pagoda
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we are discussing the NAS within VRChat

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what uyou mean chief

near saffron
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Impersonation probs

obsidian pagoda
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I'm still me

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Krimzen

inner cape
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You can't tell what names to have in discord

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Impersonation is only bannable in game

vocal shard
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people have been using ! and " for months now, and nothing was ever done for it

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and now out of nowhere it's bad

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I'm just saying. If nothing happens, then nothing happens. If you get kicked, GWnanamiLaceShrug.

glossy wharf
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If you get kicked then you get kicked for something thats not even a proper rule

inner cape
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The fact that you're annoyed doesn't mean you can kick people for it Maidvillager

vocal shard
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not really hard to modify the rules to include "use a proper name please, no special characters"

safe marsh
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VRchat related question...The photos you take with the ingame camera where are they stored?

obsidian pagoda
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Documents

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Photos

inner cape
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They're gonna introduce a rule which says not to abuse lack of rules

safe marsh
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Thank you.

obsidian pagoda
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no speaking rule

vocal shard
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images > vrchat

safe marsh
vocal shard
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i mean

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we are talking about a name change

ember forum
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wait there are rules here

vocal shard
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i'm sure it's annoying the 50k people in this discord

obsidian pagoda
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h

vocal shard
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the fuck

obsidian pagoda
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memesama

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"Almighty Meme"

ember forum
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10/10

glossy wharf
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lets just go

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to be safe

safe marsh
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can you record a video with the ingame hand camera?

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or just pictures?

vocal shard
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just pictures

safe marsh
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aw

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Ok

glossy wharf
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you can record a video too

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if you use obs

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and use the stream camera

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then you can capture the output

safe marsh
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hm

nocturne ibex
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A more performant option is to use the SteamVR headset mirror and just scale it to width in OBS. That's how I do it ant you don't see much more than about a 1-2 FPS dip. With the camera it literally halves your framerate.

glossy wharf
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But thats mirroring your headset

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He asked for the camera

nocturne ibex
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Gotcha

vocal shard
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does anyone know if it's possible to reset your chosen home without being in vrchat?

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i know im reaching here but its literally the only reason vrchat is crashing for me

umbral reef
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Fairly sure you can do that stuff on the website

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And else join a room from the website ad then change it

vocal shard
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yeah i saw that they're still working on it but if this is the solution to my problems i can just do this lol

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is the website ad a chat???

vocal shard
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found it

rough flax
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@vocal shard go to the vrc website, login, go to worlds, and then click and instance and then join

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Then once in game, change home world

vocal shard
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ty

vocal shard
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is it possible to share pictures i've taken with the ingame camera on Steam?

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tried copying them over but the screenshot library doesnt recognise them

umbral reef
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They should be within your picture folder

inner cape
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He's tryna share them on his steam

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Social platform btw haHAA

umbral reef
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Ow well no then

vocal shard
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yap

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gotta remember to use teh steam screenshot combo

inner cape
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That one takes low quality pics sadly

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Cause the eye resolution is small

vocal shard
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yeah the file is like 2x bigger

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too bad

glossy wharf
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yes you can

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do that

lyric tundra
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woa

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this is big VRC land

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i don’t know anyone

glossy wharf
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@vocal shard make a normal screenshot

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replace it with the one you want to upload

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go to steams screenshot menu for that game

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upload screenshot

umbral reef
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Well welcome syntax

floral aspen
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hi Syntax

hearty wyvern
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Hi @floral aspen

floral aspen
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hey Pink Pounder! What's up?

vocal shard
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Anyone know if they've fixed the blackscreen yet?

rigid crescent
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i would check announcements

vocal shard
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^
Beat me to it

rigid crescent
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last post before bed, had to do it to em

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lol

vocal shard
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πŸ‘Œ

elder quartz
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what do you guys think about the safety system?

umbral reef
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I dont like it showing what rank you are in the nameplate

tight bloom
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So I’m guessing this game is still not fixed yet

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Smh

elder quartz
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the only thing i dont like about it is that i cant use my emote with sound if i dont friend everyone

tight bloom
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Yeah I don’t like the ranks I think they’re bs

vocal shard
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blocking stuff is fine

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i can choose

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showing rank and the naming of the rank is dumb

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and worthless

tight bloom
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I’ve been playing this game over 100 hours total and I’m still considered a new user

elder quartz
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yeah but most people stay at default and im new user

tight bloom
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Some of us can’t upload our own avatars because of our shit computers

elder quartz
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you need to publish content publicly

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to become higher

vocal shard
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false

tight bloom
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So we shouldn’t be ranked based on our ability to do that

vocal shard
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that's just speculation

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only info we got is to play the game, nothing else

elder quartz
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it literally says that

tight bloom
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That’s what it says below the user rank

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Lmao

vocal shard
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it doesnt say anything

tight bloom
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Yeah it does

vocal shard
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you need to play the game to rank up

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that's all there is to it

elder quartz
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no

vocal shard
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it never said anywhere to upload to get higher ranks

elder quartz
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it does

tight bloom
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No it says it below each rank on the safety section

vocal shard
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please show me then

elder quartz
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im about to

tight bloom
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Someone who’s online do it for me lmao

elder quartz
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on my way

small wing
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So other than yesterdays black screen i cannot log in now

pine pilot
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whats with this authentication failed issue?

small wing
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i got a popup saying authentication failed

pine pilot
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i just suddenly cant login anymore

turbid agate
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yup same cant log in at all

elder quartz
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me too

vocal shard
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servers just died apparently

small wing
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wew

tight bloom
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Wow this game is broken

vocal shard
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well

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servers really borked

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need to wait 4 hours to get official statement from vrchat now

coral shadow
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tsupanic man i was having a good conversation, it kicked me off and now its saying authentication failed lol

trim wyvern
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Is everyone getting the authentication failed notification here?

pine pilot
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i was having good hugs

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;_;

umbral reef
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Copy paste ya login information instead of typing it

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If that fails log onto the website

vocal shard
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oclac

umbral reef
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And if that also fails change password

vocal shard
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servers are scuffed

elder quartz
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the servers it down

small wing
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Well, last time the servers went down the mods were fine with @ mentioning them to warn them so im gonna do it. <@&378256373701410817> servers are down in case you are unaware.

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Pretty sure they are, but just in case they are neck deep in something else its considerate to tell em.

umbral reef
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They never stated they where back up and dont mention the admins unless its an emergency πŸ‘

pine pilot
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well servers being down is emergency

small wing
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It is an emergency as far as i know

vocal shard
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I'mma pin the others cause they can't do nothing about the situation

elder quartz
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what do you call this then

rotund wren
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servers down "Not an emergency"

modern sand
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That isn't an emergency since it's been ongoing and we posted in announcement about it

small wing
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πŸ€”

vocal shard
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rekt

umbral reef
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πŸ‘ Lmao

still lark
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lol

umbral reef
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But nah- Im not purple or anything other special so lets ignore everything we say πŸ‘€

turbid agate
modern sand
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There's also still 6k users online, if you see 0, ping me

small wing
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Man this chat is full of toxicity

mental verge
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lolololololol

vocal shard
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@vrprint
@hackspanner
@Advert_no
@evolved_ant
@PanDiman

mental verge
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Game dies "Not an emergency"

vocal shard
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Here's an idea... What if the server issues aren't VRChat's fault... And are maybe due to a problem with the server provider.... πŸ€”

coral shadow
vocal shard
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"game dies"

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6700 users online

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"game dies"

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Someone's arm gets cut off nah, it's not an emergency

umbral reef
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Dude- You acted without thinking. We called you out on it and now we are the toxic part?
And the game isnt death, the servers are having problems. Big difference and big odds its not even something VRC has controll over like the amazon servers they use...

rotund wren
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i mean suddenly a large group of people cant get online "not an emergency"

small wing
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i think you guys said that 5 times already over the past 2 minutes

rotund wren
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it must be an emergency

small wing
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but nevermind what i say, just gonna be edgy after anyways.

mental verge
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@rotund wren nah its fine aslong as they are online it doesnt matter its only a problem when they are off

umbral reef
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Who says you dudes didnt get crashed?

maiden hound
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It’s just a game, you can live without the game for a day, can’t you πŸ˜‚

vocal shard
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apparently not

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they live in vrchat

cerulean cypress
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I'm here, whats the emergency?!

umbral reef
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I question that daily delaney

vocal shard
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nothing else to do for several hours apparently

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The servers are UP. its not vrchat directly its cloudfire that have the issue where vrchat's host is located.. they are the ones responsible for this bullshit nobody else.

umbral reef
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As so me guess was right with the hosting they use being scuffed

coral shadow
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tbh its not an actual emergency, its just a game, just close and play something else. sure its an inconvenience but don't let it stop you from having a good day by dwelling on something you have no control over OwO

rotund wren
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@umbral reef "Who says you dudes didnt get crashed" I mean pretty impressive crash spanning across all instances. MUST BE PHANOS. Dw though its not an emergency.

mental verge
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Svelsien calls people out for being on vrchat all the time but are in this discord chat 24/7 lol

elder quartz
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Im here what is the emergancy?

umbral reef
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Its not that special

small wing
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πŸ€”

umbral reef
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Its not like you can program a bot to do that

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πŸ‘€

vocal shard
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nigel trying to be a smart ass
cute

small wing
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I think i just caused the next slow mode

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damn

vocal shard
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@coral shadow noes we must complain for no reason because that's more entertaining atm than doing something else

ivory folio
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🍿

mental verge
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svelsien 34,378 results

vocal shard
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We've been put on slow mode xD

umbral reef
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Guess he is a regular and knows what he is doing here GWcfcThonk

rotund wren
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@umbral reef *Programs bot to crash multiple instances!" "NOT AN EMERGENCY"

vocal shard
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You honestly trying to call someone out for being active in the community?...

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nigel isnt known to think a lot, don't worry about it jamie

mental verge
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hes calling people out for wanting to play a game lol

vocal shard
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Svel has been here for a long time...

small wing
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Yep, called it. slow mode.

umbral reef
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@rotund wren Well no- You just make a moderation report and they will handle it
Its not bad enough for the full staff team to stop working, look at there discord and instantly go find the person without any information beside "ITS BROKN!!! HALPS"

vocal shard
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also slow mode
fuck that, i'm out

umbral reef
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Same πŸ‘‹ Have fun burning chat

still lark
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It's only 15 seconds calm ya farm.

vocal shard
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gib 2 minute slowmode

small wing
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@ivory folio this is what i get for not knowing literally everything 🀣

vocal shard
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This is alot harder for those of us who are building worlds and cannot even test our work.. lord knows it takes time to compress the package and launch only to be presented with a dummy blank screen.. i do have a way round this but its not a discussion for this chat.

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Actually... Isn't this a bingo πŸ‘€

mental verge
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Good laugh

vocal shard
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Oh shit it's a bingo

ivory folio
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Ayy welcome to the vrchat discord @small wing

small wing
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yeppers

cerulean cypress
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How did this become a sess pool of liquid garbage from just saying the servers are down so fast? It's quite impressive.

umbral reef
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@vocal shard We can be on our second card by now if we kept it properly up

mental verge
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people got upset because someone told the admin servers are down lol

ivory folio
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God forbid you have opinions here

small wing
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Hey, at least Nigel understands the retardation here.

umbral reef
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Honest to god i hope they just follow the rules for once πŸ‘€ But as staff never does it things like this happen

ivory folio
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thought you left oclac, interesting

umbral reef
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Food wasnt 100% ready so i got an extra special 2 minutes to damage my brain

mellow fjord
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Yeet

small wing
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@ivory folio You ever finish that bubble shader?

ivory folio
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Not yet, I'm probably gonna give up on it. The Amplify one does the job pretty well

small wing
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I was wondering if it was possible to Boole between the meshes like 1001's in amplify, might tackle it myself if it allows for it,

still lark
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"Boole"?

small wing
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Technical shit.

still lark
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Cool thanks for explaining.

cerulean cypress
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Uh oh

small wing
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I dont feel like explaining because its too much to explain lmao. get outta here.

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smh

floral aspen
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I'm assuming he's referring to a boolean value. A boolean value is a variable in programming that can equate to true or false meaning that depending on whether the boolean variable is true or false, he could switch between different meshes. But I don't know anything about shaders so he might be talking about something else.

still lark
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Quick google returned object volume displacement and various other methods.

small wing
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Sorta yeah. Im more so referring to the way Cinema 4D does it though.

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so if you wanna see what it looks like then google that.

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its also the same visual that metaballs do

still lark
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Is it smoothed?

small wing
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In cinema it is.

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i can open cinema 4D and send a gif 1 sec

still lark
small wing
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had the gif ready the second you sent that

still lark
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Yeah I did a bit of ray marching so I understand that.

small wing
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Now the real question is if amplify is capable of doing it. πŸ€”

ruby burrow
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I hope so, because whatever black magic you're working on, looks pretty nice.

small wing
ruby burrow
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I saw a demo of that kind of merging blobs thing being done in Blender once. Always thought it'd be great fun to see in VRC.

small wing
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Its very possible for it to be done in vrchat, my only issue is i use visual node stuff.

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I'm also trying to figure out how to create a blurred chromatic aberration because the sharp one amplify gives off is too clean.

turbid agate
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ah those things in c4d

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quite fun to work with

small wing
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Yeah, even more fun when you have octane to preview it in real time.

turbid agate
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Still havent got myself octane

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I found exporting animations to Unity for VRChat from C4D is sometimes a hassle.

small wing
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"real time" big oof my bad. i meant interactively.

vocal shard
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the effect with the metaballs is a 'smooth min' of several sphere distance fields

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if you want to do that with meshes, look at the marching cubes algorithm but that's a lot trickier do to realtime in vrc

small wing
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Interesting. πŸ€”

vocal shard
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it's cheap with raymarching but hard with polys 😐

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the 'blobbing'

small wing
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For something as low poly as the default unity sphere though, would it be an issue?

inner cape
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Why is slow mode on

still lark
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@inner cape Why not? πŸ˜ƒ

inner cape
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Something happened?

vocal shard
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yes, it will have to generate a grid and sample the potential field in it to put a ton of tris in the right places

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A bunch came in complaining about the servers

inner cape
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Oh, a server raid, noice

small wing
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It seems everything i wanna do brings me right back to the same place then, ouch.

inner cape
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Did they get clapped?

vocal shard
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No

inner cape
vocal shard
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@small wing if you want to do effects impossible with unity and meshes ... yes ...

umbral reef
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@inner cape they didnt even kick anyone even though they pinged admins πŸ‘

vocal shard
umbral reef
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But hey- an announcement saying servers are scuffed from a few days ago means they are not scuffed anymore~

inner cape
small wing
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@vocal shard I assume that would be a limiter of some kind?

twin jacinth
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Anyone else having problems getting in worlds?
loading loading loading authentication failed

vocal shard
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@small wing that's called 'marching cubes': a way of making polys out of an isosurface object (the blobs), but it needs a lot of math and a lot of plumbing so it's kind of impossible with meshes in vrc, raymarching is the best and fastest way

small wing
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I guess i have to put this one off as well then. My biggest issue here is grasping the code, every single tutorial on shader coding from scratch says what to do, but never gets into the "why" and the "how".

still lark
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Also you get to say that it's raymarched and everyone will think it's amazing!

cold talon
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Hmpst why is slow mode on?

small wing
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Its kinda like they expect you to just copy along side them and never grasp any of the reasoning behind it. Which is my main issue with learning.

still lark
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Scroll up a page

vocal shard
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@still lark I cheated and raycast some thing before I march

still lark
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omg 1001, how could you!

ruby burrow
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Why and how are always super important. Bugs me a lot when people skim over that when teaching anything.

vocal shard
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shhhh πŸ˜‡

gleaming patio
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programming shaders as anyone who has touched an imperative language at all is really a strong re-think

vocal shard
gleaming patio
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it's like you stop having the loop head, everything is suddenly between -1 and 1...

ruby burrow
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Was always my biggest issue way back in highschool maths. My teacher was atrocious for just giving slabs of equations to repeat, without explaining the meaning or function in the slightest.
And it's the same for any other subject for me.

still lark
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It's just math bro

vocal shard
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smoke math everyday

ruby burrow
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If I don't understand the reason I'm doing something, and how it works, then it never sticks and does little good.

gleaming patio
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also how about some "it's trivial", a nice slap in the face

small wing
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@still lark but as such with any math there is always tools and methods of which it is calculated. Which in most tutorials they never explain what means what and sorta just tell you to follow along. it sucks man.

still lark
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Yeah I know, I've dealt with it before.

vocal shard
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@small wing read stuff in the link, it's very clear and accessible

still lark
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The lazy in me wants to skip reading entire sentences and only go for keywords. 😩

small wing
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I already read that link before along side the unity shader basics conference that moochie sent a while back.

vocal shard
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your history with amplify will help you immensely when you get the fundementals, you can skip a bunch of chapters because you already learned how to wire stuff in Amplify

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then you're good to go

small wing
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So what you mean is this read will help me a lot more in amplify when understanding the nodes? Or are you saying something else.

vocal shard
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Why is slowmode still on πŸ€”

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what you do in amplify is what you do in the shader code aswell, calcing a value and outputting it to a color register

still lark
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Because it's easy to forget, also it doesn't really matter.

small wing
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Ah, then i can see how it would be a good stepping stone. I will keep that in mind from now on, thanks.

vocal shard
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@still lark yes it does

still lark
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How does it matter?

vocal shard
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If you were to write something longer it makes you pause for longer
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maiden hound
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How are people still streaming vrchat?

void blade
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just a question

umbral reef
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Hard to find another game where people make your content really

vocal shard
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Oof

void blade
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is possible to track the face with kinnect? on vrchat?

vocal shard
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Yikes Kinect

umbral reef
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Face? As in?

vocal shard
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Track the face... As in expressions? Or head position tracking?

void blade
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expression

vocal shard
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No

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there's no tracking/IK for the face in vrc other than position/rotation of the head @void blade

cold talon
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Nopex

umbral reef
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Can the kinect even do that normally?

void blade
vocal shard
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I highly doubt it

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Unless it's just using the camera

indigo fern
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Ah, slowmode

cold talon
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I think there's a program that does that, but it's quite basic

umbral reef
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That isnt done with tracking though... That is pure having way to much time

cold talon
void blade
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xD

still lark
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the hand tracking on that video would be terrible

void blade
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yeah because they used only kinnect here i think

vocal shard
ruby burrow
#

Yeah, that video is just an MMD motion. Everything in it is animated by hand.

neon flume
ruby burrow
#

The MMD community is kinda crazy. (And we of all people should be grateful for that.)

void blade
#

oh

ruby burrow
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I mean, the tech to track faces and have it show on a model absolutely exists though.

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That's just not an example of it.

small wing
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@vocal shard voted, that is sick.

ruby burrow
#

Star Citizen now has face tracking that uses a regular every day web cam, so if that can do it the Kinect can.

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But getting that into VRC is a different story.

indigo fern
#

Yeah, facerig has been around for a while and now even the iPhone emoji thingy does it realtime

vocal shard
#

@small wing yeah check the youtube, it's a very cool AI idea

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Voted.. a laughing feature is interesting.. i dont do much laughing anymore though unless im very drunk.

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Also Vrchat needs a drunk mode.

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maybe it detects drunk too, not sure πŸ˜‰

void blade
#

you can already do

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using the cam filter xD

indigo fern
#

But for vrc, kinda weird since most have a headset over their face

still lark
#

just get a Breathalyzer attachment for your HMD

small wing
#

to think they are able to detect if someone is laughing is amazing. If they used an animation override slot for that it would be super helpful for people who like to look expressive without having to use hand gestures.

vocal shard
#

what I like about it aswell is you don't need extra hardware, just a mic

cold talon
#

Adding animation slots bahkaNoThanks

vocal shard
#

If you forget your wearing the full body tracking suit.. anything can happen.. and anything is possible

void blade
#

what about also a smell transmiter?

vocal shard
#

no

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if you poop in the rift ... you poop for real brainexpand

maiden hound
#

Smell the alcohol

vocal shard
#

Due to how smell works i doubt that will ever be a thing in any of our lifetimes lol

void blade
#

i mean like you be on the beach and smell the beach

small wing
#

doesnt atmos theaters do that?

maiden hound
#

That would be so cool though

vocal shard
#

Or you could be in my funland and smell the vomit.. hmmm... yummy..

#

Oh hey finally

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the smell of hotdogs and sick

#

Can write more properly

ruby burrow
#

The Half Dome/Caspar prototypes had internal eye/face tracking, and also lower face tracking in their feature list. You obviously lose a decent bit of expression detail with the brow and cheeks obscured, but it can be done.

vocal shard
#

Pimax claimed they would add a smell module...

ruby burrow
#

Seriously sucks that they've shelved Caspar in favour of Rift-S though.

vocal shard
#

True

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Its not possible to do with smell..

#

give or take a few hundred years from now if humanity is still around, perhaps then.. but we are talking about moving from the first Tv up to a vr device..

small wing
#

We said the same thing about landing on the moon years ago but..... aaaand he clarifies.

vocal shard
#

we are nothing compared to what they saw of us in the past.. no flying cars either lol

small wing
#

(β•―Β°β–‘Β°οΌ‰β•―οΈ΅ ┻━┻

vocal shard
#

Isn't that what vaqso VR is all about. The whole thing is about emulating smells

umbral reef
#

Smell cna be done

#

Its just not practical

small wing
#

And here i thought i would be able to go on a tangent about how bright the future looks

ruby burrow
#

No flying cars, but countless other incredible technologies the past wasn't capable of remotely imagining.

cold talon
#

Several people are typing, quick increase the slow mode!

umbral reef
#

There are VR experience cabins that include things like smell, wind and temperature but they are big and bulky

void blade
ruby burrow
#

@umbral reef Or half as desirable. ^ ^;

vocal shard
#

If you could emulate smell taste and touch.. then there's zero point in living in this world anymore.. i will stay in vr.

ruby burrow
#

Oh god, imagine having smell in the safety system.

small wing
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LOL

vocal shard
#

@void blade oh god, you wanna get on vrc ... TONER LOW merrLOL

umbral reef
#

Gotta have the funds to support that tho omega

neon flume
#

Well the real world still has some pros like food, water, low latency, high uptime

still lark
#

"low latency" Lmao

vocal shard
#

farts per second

umbral reef
#

And malachiel- You have to buy expensive as fuck cartridges prob for that

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Or well, normal cartridges what is still annoying

void blade
#

i know ahaha

vocal shard
#

If there's some sort of scientific accurate data out there about how that would be achieved.. mark zuckerburg and friends are guaranteed to buy it just to control the rest of your daily life.

void blade
#

but i can't preorder 😦

umbral reef
#

And the whole website is scuffed...

#

I really wonder if they even have it working properly at all...

void blade
#

or maybe is a troll

rocky comet
umbral reef
#

They announced it in 2k15...

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So i doubt it at all

vocal shard
#

Latency .. is a matter of perspective.. someone who's on LSD will see in a different frame of mind and thus time will be but a name for them.. each person derives time based on their own individual perception. (without getting to deep) its just a concept that allows us to live our lives easier knowing that everything has an end.. but we will never truly know the beginning πŸ˜„

umbral reef
#

And the more i look into what you linked malachiel the more it feels like a kick starter money grab and nothing else
No official product has been shown yet- There trailer/promo vids show not even there own clips and so...

vocal shard
#

Well. i too have an xmas map and.. each and everyday im testing to make sure its fine.. never knowing when the beta sdk will be live.. and thats a worry due to the amount of effort i've put into this.. not only that but now they have server issues.. so im really at that point where its getting me down.

maiden hound
#

It’s weird, how are people still managing to stream vrchat right now with it being down?

still lark
#

It's not down
just unstable

vocal shard
#

The servers aren't down. Just unstable

#

Nice @rocky comet πŸ˜ƒ would show mine off too.. but it would ruin the suprise.. and i cant do that lol

umbral reef
#

And for some its still fully stable

maiden hound
#

Oh alright. Got it

cold talon
#

No its just that the streamers have a dedicated backup server

vocal shard
#

If fine for some and not others.. then Cloudflare is to blame for blocking clients access.. as there are multiple reports on steam about access being blocked for them connecting to vrchat when the accounts are fine yet the server refuses connection and it randomly happens... that is the host.. not vrchat.

umbral reef
#

I find it kinda odd though if its cloudfare-
I know that the 28th and 29th they had DNS resolution and propagastion delays but today they should not have anything
Atleast not officially else i would have been notified by it

#

And the 28-29 problems where just delay no drops or anything

#

And beside the simple re-routing there isnt anything down or extremely slow πŸ€”

vocal shard
#

Well.. the errors are internal 500's mostly.. yet you can log into vrchat through browser perfectly fine and bring up your worlds and more.. but through Api .. instant problem

still lark
#

Considering the website uses the API

umbral reef
#

Thats why i find it strange...

vocal shard
#

Due to "Testing" i should simply fallback to loopback for my testing grounds.. i should not have to wait in an endless loop of loading or wait for authentication from server to connect to my own test build.

still lark
#

Because the API isn't unstable, it's photon.

vocal shard
#

Also the Builds we used to be able to do as standalone with vrcsdk has now been written in to disable this feature..

#

so its just made life harder honestly.

still lark
#

Made it easier for the devs though. :P

vocal shard
#

oh well.. does unity Api use a different port other than original port 80 through browser?

#

because that might explain it

small bobcat
#

VRC broken

still lark
#

VRChat's API is on 443

gleaming patio
#

people being the content means there are tons of very powerful neural networks making up new things all the time

vocal shard
#

Was it like this before the update to the live servers the other day when they patched to allow clients to come and go from multiple versions of an instance? like for example someone using beta build and someone using live..

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because i never had issues before.

still lark
#

By other day you mean like months?

vocal shard
#

I think you could always use older clients but you won't be able to see or hear players with a different version client

#

No i mean like two days ago i believe.

#

could be wrong.. time goes fast but it was not months ago.

#

*TupperYesterday at 1:49 AM
Doing a soft announce-- we've just released a patch for VRChat, 2018.4.2p1. Users on this patch can see 2018.4.2 users, so there should be no "I can't see my friends in the room" if they/you haven't updated yet. This patch has only one change:

  • Modified disconnection error dialogs to auto-dismiss after a short period

We're still experiencing networking issues, and we'll let you know when that changes. We're working on it!*

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tick tock tick tock.. lol

#

Neat

#

oh yeah that's new yeah, didn't even read that before

still lark
#

Still confused

vocal shard
#

Thing is.. we never had this before ... something was touched

#

thats all im gonna say πŸ˜„

#

show me on the doll where the bad man touched you

still lark
#

They haven't changed anything on how newer/older builds handle older/newer builds.

vocal shard
#

Scruffy do you run a live or a beta build?

still lark
#

Neither

vocal shard
#

right well how would you know the difference then

still lark
#

I run 660 which is outdated by 1 version.

cold talon
#

Someone must have tripped on a cable or something

#

Unplugged one of the switches GWqlabsYaoLUL

vocal shard
#

Lol

vague crystal
#

Just wondering, did they fix the private world bug?

vocal shard
#

Not yet

#

I've been in vrchat servers since the very start introduced by DJ-Ogre right back in the day.. good times.. anyways.. cut the long story short.. the live and the beta are entirely different with how unity handles.. the beta is superior over the live right now.. and hopefuly they will get on updating live with it as soon as possible.. however the issue right now is.. i've seen this path before and last time it was down to denial of service attacks

#

so could preety much be the exact same again.

unkempt cliff
#

I hope these black screens are fixed soon.. it’s getting real annoying

still lark
#

Dunno why you keep saying "unity" handles when VRChat is the one handling everything.

vocal shard
#

Because vrchat runs on unity...

#

I remember 7 months ago when it took them over a month to resolve the issue where we couldn't test our own builds before hand we had to upload to test.. and that was when my funland was 450 megs too on my connection each test took up about a weeks worth or time overall.

#

Vrchat is just an SDK with an executable that allows you to conenct to a server

#

its foundation is unity This is not Neosvr where they are breaking away by using unity as a plugin base

rustic gate
#

Yo tengo

vocal shard
#

Honestly taking vrchat in the direction of its own engine that would be interesting

earnest harbor
#

curious what the "estimated" time to go from known to trusted is, since in the past 2 weeks i have ~30 hours and a total of 773 hours total (most of the being 4+ months ago)

vocal shard
#

Gold the Ranking system is broken.

rustic gate
#

Mi server from discord is fans from the grinch movie

modern sand
vocal shard
#

It was not truly fully tested before it was used.. basically.. as a trusted user i get a silly amount of unknown friend requests a day.. simply because the more trusted these users have.. the more chance of their rank going up

void blade
#

at least my first baby arrived

vocal shard
#

and i dare anyone to quote me on this .. lol

rustic gate
#

Ohhh

#

Is th no end

#

Emm

void blade
still lark
#

When the top rank was veteran, being in publics was fun.

void blade
#

still waiting for the converter

cold talon
#

Veterans maidPerfection

vocal shard
#

then there was the "bring back veteran" posts
Lol

void blade
#

Vegans

cold talon
#

Vegan rank pog

still lark
#

"conteNt cReAtORS DEseRve recogniTIon"

vocal shard
#

Lol

#

Content creators are the burning passion that drives the beating heart of this platform. without us it dies.

#

there's different typs of "content creators tho"... Ones who actually make content... And ones who just go around calling themselves content creators seeking recognition

maiden hound
#

^

vocal shard
#

I agree.. a nameplate and the content provided by name when content is uploaded should be more than enough though.. problem is.. some are just a mesh with a load of randomly generated shite.

#

where as most.. put in a serious amount of effort time and money all at once.

#

It's nice that worlds and their creators are now easy to see in game

#

Well i never get in vrchat.. i just create content go to dev meetups show off my shit..

#

then onto the next project

#

I thought content creator meant longplayers on youtube /s

#

Nothing i create is ever good enough though im always left hungry for more and thats always how it is.

still lark
#

@vocal shard Shouldn't put the /s there just to troll people. lol

vocal shard
#

yeah but when I do that joking around turns into a shouting match 😐

#

Well.. twitch and people who stream kinda put this platform more on the map than how it was before.. even still before we had it on steam the community was very small..

#

since then its grown massively.

weary bison
#

it's a valid concern, content can come in many forms

still lark
#

( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)

vocal shard
#

Yes..

#

I usually run away when i see a streamer though..

#

i will ruin their stream guranteed.

maiden hound
#

Same lol

vocal shard
#

its for their own.. bennefit.. get away before i say something you are held accountable for.

weary bison
#

that's fair, they have their own stances and debates about public streaming etiquette too

pseudo bobcat
#

many auth errors todaythonk

opaque hawk
#

I’m super happy with the recently added features added for world creators.

vocal shard
#

Yeah your right.. i just wish sometimes i could simply /hide myself yah know

#

that would be very useful for us who have them on our map..

earnest vortex
#

hai

vocal shard
#

mind you i suppose you could say yes but its like spying and whatnot you could listen in and stuff.. but its mainly because im an introvert unless im drunk

#

in which case.. get away lol

ruby burrow
#

The whole "content creators deserve recognition" canny thing, was valid in that it'd be nice to offer committed creators some kind of way to display that, but the part that wasn't valid was the expectation that it should be the golden shiny rank that would mark them as superior to all others.

opaque hawk
#

Hey petey

ruby burrow
#

Hence why it turned into such a mess.

vocal shard
#

Oh squishy i never ever wanted a rank i couldn't care less

#

i only care about having fun and making fun for others.. thats why i tend to stick to making fairground maps

weary bison
#

it's also not really enforceable without shafting some types of content creation

vocal shard
#

i dont care for much enviroments.. hell i get enough of them all the time im in vr.. i just like creating fun things with music and watching people enjoy theirselves

earnest vortex
#

I actually feel bad for people who join with low rank. especially if they get into vrchat like I wanted to get into vrchat to see how far i can push the bounderies and explore new things with the animation medium

ruby burrow
#

Yeah, the quote marks thing Scruffy referenced above was just a rather heated canny post previously, wanting veteran rank back but for content creators.

still lark
#

Yup

vocal shard
#

Hmm well.. if it opened the possibility where i could /hide myself then i wouldn't mind so much

#

i can already kick from a map.. thats more than enough user control unless i can put up flags like anti knuckles as an example.

opaque hawk
#

My biggest point of contention is how the rank prevents you from making content until you rank up. The more I see people hitting that wall the more I object to it. I believe that should be time orientated.

ruby burrow
#

Well you can put up "Keep knuckles off the grass" signs in a world, but I wouldn't expect them to work. ^ ^

vocal shard
#

Yeah aka.. like i said its broken.. i think time and contribution is also a biggy

cedar topaz
#

Have checked in tech support thread and database, no luck on google either.. my Rift audio is set to go to Rift only, but I hear sound coming from speakers instead in vrchat. Odd thing is when I press the oculus menu button, the audio switches to Rift headphones.. anyone heard of that?

vocal shard
#

not just helping in here or whatnot but the level of activity we get on a map due to the well.. sheer amount of time it takes to create

cedar topaz
#

sorry if this is the wrong place

ruby burrow
#

The rank thing doesn't prevent you creating anything. It just prevents you being able to show it around in public quite as easily.

weary bison
#

from what I've seen, visitor to new user doesn't tend to take that long at least

still lark
#

As a veteran I find no issues with showing my amazing content to others

maiden hound
#

It took me 6 hours, it’s not a big deal

ruby burrow
#

Unless you meant getting upload rights itself, in which case that's so trivial it really shouldn't be a concern.

vocal shard
#

@cedar topaz start up vrchat with the audio device set to rift headphone audio, the oculus dash will always be in the rift headphones but vrchat starts with whatever is selected as default audio device

ruby burrow
#

10 hours for me, but the second session was 8 hours long before logging off, so it might have been sooner.

cedar topaz
#

@vocal shard Is that a startup option? theres nothing for default output device in vrchat itself, and my settings have always been "output to rift only"

vocal shard
#

@weary bison Yes.. Well the simplistic view is the most obvious and i cannot.. say where i get my source from.. but i will tell you what im citing is truth.. if you are a normal user played for a day if that.. if you added a few trusted to your friends list.. your rank progression sores.

maiden hound
#

Just make friends and talk. I don’t see why people complain about it

cedar topaz
#

or do you mean windows default device?

vocal shard
#

yes

#

That is a massive issue as that should never happen to start with

cedar topaz
#

ok, cheers that makes sense, thanks!

vocal shard
#

np! have fun

weary bison
#

that sounds more like trial and error than insider info, which is a fair observation

vocal shard
#

Actually.. its in the code..

weary bison
#

I haven't tried that myself though

vocal shard
#

i cant say no more than that πŸ˜›

still lark
#

You don't get to see the code, it's server side.

safe yacht
#

Getting Authentication errors constantly when going to new worlds, right now. Anyone else?

vocal shard
#

heh.. okay well i will let you go with that.. as i cant list how or why or even who ..

#

but its the solid truth.

#

πŸ™„

still lark
#

πŸ€” 🀦

maiden hound
#

@safe yacht servers are unstable right now

ruby burrow
#

Yeah, everyone is getting that @safe yacht
It's just the server hosts that VRC uses having issue. Isn't only VRC.

safe yacht
#

Ah alrighty

weary bison
#

we'll see as things progress vrpill

vocal shard
#

Plot twist: Everyone who uses vrchat has been sending mining data to the server since the start of its creation, thats where the money comes from.

#

.. just a story πŸ˜‰ lol

raven aurora
#

@ruby burrow wait a second, it was you i met in the great pug? the one with the hypnotic mono-eye? πŸ€”

indigo fern
#

But that's just a theory

weary bison
#

gotta mine those tuppercoins

still lark
#

You send a load of analytics data to VRC

ruby burrow
#

Oh hey Odin. πŸ™‚
@raven aurora

#

πŸ‘

vocal shard
#

There was actually a very famous case of a steam release on the store people downloading a simple physics ball vs wall game it was addictive and little did people know.. it was using all host units to send back to the person who made it

#

preety hilarious tbh.. steam banned them straight away when they realised..

#

It's effectively a botnet made with the guise of a fun game πŸ˜„

raven aurora
#

@ruby burrow you captured my soul in your eye πŸ‘»

opaque hawk
#

Any particular reason slowmode is on?

vocal shard
#

Yes because im in the room and ruuubick is awake

#

Also its massively to do with the same thing asked over and over like why are servers on the blink blah blah my maps id pipeline has been lost.. blah blah... list goes on

winged quartz
vocal shard
#

It's been up for an our and a half..

winged quartz
#

Why tho

#

Oh

vocal shard
#

Idk

weary bison
#

server issues make for a flood of repeated questions

vocal shard
#

The servers got back up after 45 minutes of slow mode

#

So... I still wonder why it is up

winged quartz
#

Yo btw when we doing the bingo

weary bison
#

it'll probably be off soon

vocal shard
#

I already bingo'd a bunch tanabae

weary bison
#

assuming there's no more problems

winged quartz
#

Holy

vocal shard
#

One message every 5 seconds is actually Discrimination though.. its hard for me not to type one message every 5 seconds.. or hell even 2 seconds.

indigo fern
#

just start editing your previous message and adding on to it
ezpz

vocal shard
#

Lols.. thats a smart plan if it works N8 πŸ˜„

indigo fern
#

yea it does
:0

vocal shard
#

Nice.. discord bypass.. in your face ruuuby πŸ˜„

indigo fern
#

its only useful when its longer than 5 secs though 🀷

ruby burrow
#

I've never actually been denied by slowmode here thus far.

vocal shard
#

usually i type out stories.. i cant help it... its like my mind is constantly on alert and i have so much to talk about.. same as when im in vrchat too.. if i can GET in vrchat.. that is πŸ˜„

night magnet
#

Slow mode

vocal shard
#

Yes..

winged quartz
#

I feel

vocal shard
#

Slow mode is an insult to Fast people.. pure discrimination.

night magnet
#

S...l....o....w..

winged quartz
#

Slow

night magnet
#

M....o....d....e...

#

Someone @ tupper

#

Will PayPal you $5 ( $5 not included)

vocal shard
#

No thanks i dont fancy being lectured

#

next slide plz

#

you go on ahead

#

just talk about random stuff in this channel
you will summon ruuubick this way and get his attention

night magnet
#

Hmmm

weary bison
#

don't do that

night magnet
#

If I @ Tupper will he notice me and do the big UwU

vocal shard
#

yes he might fall for you and you can live happily ever after too

night magnet
#

@weary bison what's up b

vocal shard
#

you never know.

night magnet
#

Omega has a point.

weary bison
#

not much, just various vrchat-related things

night magnet
#

@weary bison wanna erp later

winged quartz
vocal shard
night magnet
vocal shard
#

Only Pm Tupper when there is an emergency like.. i ran outta bog roll and im sitting here and need help.. can you go out and get me some mate or im really in the shit.

night magnet
#

I have a feeling that Noe doesn't wanna erp

weary bison
night magnet
#

I like slow mode

floral aspen
#

slowmode is still enabled?

sacred drift
vocal shard
#

Slow mode is descrimination end of

winged quartz
#

Yo btw when pepe-allowed channel

vocal shard
#

@tupper

#

You must be joking.. pill will never allow that in here ever again

unkempt cliff
winged quartz
#

Why @vocal shard

vocal shard
#

@night magnet gibb teh stuffs

#

Its an insult to certain individuals.

winged quartz
#

πŸ€”

vocal shard
#

you have to find out where something like that comes from to understand it..

weary bison
#

pepe's usage has changed somewhat over time, hopefully it eventually won't really mean anything

vocal shard
#

Yeah well.. we both know how things change..

#

Oi I pinged Tupper

weary bison
#

for now it's a nope

winged quartz
#

Back then I only knew brazilian memes PepeHands

vocal shard
#

@tupper

#

doesn't really help when the news features it in a bad light

sacred drift
#

I just see pepe face as just a reaction face though I have heard that it's a lot worse in other places

vocal shard
#

4Chan abuse of certain elements that were deemed normal as in for kids.. but completely and utterly ruined of what they actually mean and so it was forever changed.

tame wadi
#

I needs headpat lebandAY

vocal shard
#

Nuu

sacred drift
#

is this good enough?

tame wadi
#

Nu lebandWW

vocal shard
#

Why you pat teh slime

winged quartz
#

Have a headpatrick

tame wadi
#

Give pat

#

Or angry lebandHA

vocal shard
#

You'll absorb my hand if I do

tame wadi
#

Nu

vocal shard
#

So lose-lose

#

O.o

tame wadi
#

I promise iwont

vocal shard
#

Do you really 😐*?*

tame wadi
#

Yes

vocal shard
#

Emoji's can also be used to say things you wouldn't normally say in text due to being very offensive.

weary bison
#

guys

winged quartz
vocal shard
#

That thing is cute though Noe

#

Wait... Why did that get removed vrpill?

tame wadi
#

Give headpat to me πŸ‘‹

vocal shard
#

dunno what its meant to be but still..

#

Turn into sexless human

weary bison
tame wadi
#

I am😐

vocal shard
#

Heh.. you know of what i have .. and yet you still asked πŸ˜„

weary bison
#

not the place for that

vocal shard
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@weary bison he is refering to something i was born with, tbh i dont find it offensive .. i love discussing it but apparently what i have triggers people in here.. which .. as you can imagine makes me feel kinda odd to say the least.

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Even still i dont bring it up anymore.

weary bison
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talk about it somewhere else

vocal shard
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Nah i dont bother.. he brought it over here not me.

vast tulip
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πŸ‘˜

vocal shard
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vrclove Mimivrclove

naive pike
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dont your love it when you world get reviwed for public use say it public but u logon vrchat & it's not public gotta love it hehe

median basalt
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- Once a world has been marked Public in the form, it will be made Public in VRChat within 6-12 hours.

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@naive pike

vocal shard
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Noe, why are you censoring now πŸ€”

weary bison
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we have a channel for non-VRChat topics

vocal shard
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Well.. none of my worlds ever get turned down because ive learnt overtime what they want and what they dont want.. but besides that the server is having some serious issues today..

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so i wouldn't worry much just optimise your map till servers ready for it.

naive pike
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i got hit by a avatar crasher/hacker that syskeyed my pc thour vrchat scarded the crap out me. thank god i know how to over ride that crap.

half vector
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i donΒ΄t understand ... sometimes if i log in or if i try to change the world "Authentication failed" ..... is that my fault?

vocal shard
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syskey by avatar crasher.. no such thing

ruby needle
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@naive pike erm. Mind providing some prove πŸ˜ƒ

vocal shard
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^

vast tulip
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Yeah, @naive pike that didn't happen

vocal shard
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please do so
i don't like when someone is starting to spread dumb rumors

naive pike
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cant lost all proof restoring my pc

vocal shard
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uhu

ruby needle
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Ofc. How unfortunate

vocal shard
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then until you get proof
don't spread misinformation and bullshit

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thank you very much

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... honestly..

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don't be another cpu fryer idiocy all over again NotLikeThis

vast tulip
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Even if it did happen, it wasn't from vrchat

vocal shard
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i've heard some tales in my time but that one takes the cake lol

ruby needle
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Yes

vocal shard
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More than likely.. allow me to elaborate.. you downloaded a third party client that actually had a nice lil present waiting inside and so you killed your own end πŸ˜„

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thats just a theory though.

naive pike
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i dont use client's i know what they r but dont use then unless forced'

vast tulip
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Yep, people use modified clients and then get upset at vrc when something bad happens to them

ruby needle
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"unless forced" cirThink

vocal shard
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Yep all the time unfortunately..

vast tulip
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So you just admitted to using a modified clients

naive pike
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like vrchat forced

vocal shard
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🍿

naive pike
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steam clicent update forced

vocal shard
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In a way im glad people are spiking third party..

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i hope they all suffer.

naive pike
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i been hearing ppl using the modfide client being use to farm crito money

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but that's what i been hearing latly

vocal shard
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What!?!

ruby needle
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ooooooooh. Thats harmless cirBaka

cold talon
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Tbh i use the crypto thing all the time

vocal shard
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.. i will not state what i know of but i will just say that you've heard something that massively falsified information.. and if that is whats making people download that stuff .. then my god.. the stupidity factor is off the charts.

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I hear they're farming headpats into robux πŸ€”

vast tulip
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They mean that the modified client is setup to mine crypto on everyone's pc that uses the client and gives it to the person who made the client. I would be surprised if most modified clients didn't have that

cold talon
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That's just called streamers 1001

vocal shard
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That is no different than a botnet like i said in the other channel earlier

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it's a troll at this point
you can't make this shit up

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hit that sub button if you like knuckles

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data mining using other party's.. it was originally done on a steam game for free people downloaded.

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it mined data without them knowing.until steam took it down.

weary bison
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that game also put up fake TF2 items, it was sketchy from all angles

sterile drift
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Oh my. What's going on here?

weary bison
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makes me wonder if crypto integration as an actual feature would be allowed on steam

cold talon
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Well mining was possible on vrc before, but the devs patched it before anyone could really use it GWqlabsSweats

sterile drift
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Avatar thieves are gone from this game btw

vocal shard
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tell that to TDA

sterile drift
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It's not that it's patched, they just got bored.

vocal shard
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Noe are we talking about the same game? because from what i remember it was a game based on physics a ball around a maze of sorts but the maze had sorta like friction so you could jump walls.. it never ended as it was procedural.. yet for some reason people chose to play it and yep.. must say though the person who thought of that originally is one smart guy..

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cache rippig is fixed forever
no more fortnite meme dances

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nobody would of knew unless someone took a lil look into it.

weary bison
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oh, different game then

sterile drift
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Ohyea the cache method will always there.

vast tulip
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Make a game free to play fully with constant updates and no ads and the only monitization is crypto mining while the game is on. I would be ok with it as long as I knew it was happening

weary bison
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I was referring to abstractism

naive pike
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no thir back i saw them steel my avatar thankfully it was a trojen horse avatar

cold talon
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My dances nooo BigSad

sterile drift
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Night, at this point, we know you're a troll.

naive pike
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thir stuck in it till they figur out how to delete it off thir vrc acc

vocal shard
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I Agree mimi.. but its no different than "Progress through computers" which i used for a few years on multiple machines for medical science

sterile drift
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There's no way you can inject a trojan into an avatar.

weary bison
cold talon
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Trojan avatar HYPERMEGAULTRAOMEGAGODLUL

sterile drift
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I was thinking of a method myself, but I found it impossible soon after. I didn't plan on ever doing it, I was just theorizing.

naive pike
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if they steel it you stuiped LoneEevee (Thanos send)

vocal shard
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Trojan is a make of condom i believe.. so you can make a trojan avatar πŸ˜„

sterile drift
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L O L

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First, you fail to ping me

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Second, "Steel" "stuiped"

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mk

cold talon
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GWqlabsMingLUL getting better and better

naive pike
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i made that avatar deleted the bone he cant move he cant get into his menu

sterile drift
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Sure he can

vast tulip
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Literally the minium requirement, when you call someone stupid, is you should spell stupid right

sterile drift
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Press Shift and backslash

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Turns you into a default robot avatar

tawdry apex
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Do you guys think it would be interesting if VRChat saved your location and instance when you logged out? So you logged back into the same world instance (if it still existed) and position as when you logged out?

vocal shard
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Hellokitty canny it

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and i will upvote that

sterile drift
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@tawdry apex Either set a home world or have a steam launch code to spawn you in it.

naive pike
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i had anof of this toxic chat later got real life crap to do then here ppl being toxic

sterile drift
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L O L

tawdry apex
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Oh I'm not requesting it, just trying to get an opinion on such persistence.

vocal shard
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@tawdry apex yeah but it also has the potential to get people stuck more than respawning them

sterile drift
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Did I just accidentally mark everything in this server read by a key shortcut?

vocal shard
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you would also need the world to be in the same state for example

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Yes.. true but there's a way round it with respawn.. the respawn could just go straight back to original vrc world placement

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so you can start/stop same loc.. but if trouble just a respawn from UI

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It would be VERY useful for games that rely on this mechanic

cold talon
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I mean this could be used for crashes tho

vocal shard
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its like save state functionality

tawdry apex
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@vocal shard True, worlds that aren't entirely static would present a problem. Maybe the floor you were standing on wouldn't even exist anymore. Maybe on a per-world basis respawn by default could be enabled. Just an idea I was thinking about earlier.

weary bison
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persistent progress is something I really want for game worlds

sterile drift
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"I had anof of of this toxic chat"
NIGHT F4 is typing...

cold talon
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@sterile drift stoop booli

sterile drift
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o o f

vocal shard
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can we kick that kid ? spreading bullshit and insulting everyone

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Well.. its possible but it would require each private session to save that data once a user logs off..

cold talon
vocal shard
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thanks.

vast tulip
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Yeah, me too. About getting stuck, people can just respawn so it's not an issue

weary bison
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we can also just move on

vocal shard
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it would just dump to users cache and when they arrived at previous loc it could just reload..

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yeah sure, let him come back with more "proof" about viruses being spread via avatars and let him insult more people

naive pike
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note the project name is trojan horse. not malware btw to make sure your not confused. night or good day to you all

vocal shard
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no warning, nothing
just let him insult us

cold talon
vocal shard
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I tend to ignore people who go on like that.. i've more technical to talk about that mundane pointless things like he was talking about.

tawdry apex
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@vocal shard True, but presumably player world instance is already persisted. At least, it's maintained in memory so that people can see where you are and join on you. It wouldn't be a large jump to persist where a player last was. But I was more interested in the player perspective of the feature, rather than the technical issues or the world design implications/problems.

sterile drift
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Streaming Discord?

vocal shard
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@tawdry apex maybe even an option to add bookmarks for locations on a map

sterile drift
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In his defense, it could literally just be an ACTUAL trojan horse

cold talon
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Anyway there is no way to make an avatar detect if it's on another client, if you want to crash someone, it will crash yourself too, ez

vocal shard
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from a vrchat avatar ?

sterile drift
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As in, not the virus kind, but the wooden horse.

vocal shard
naive pike
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yes i know and i called the project trojan horse just " a project name.

vocal shard
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can you stop insulting us ?

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also according to the rules, you should get kicked, you need to be above 13 to be here

sterile drift
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I thought he just called us soup

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L O L

cold talon
vocal shard
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@tawdry apex well.. thing is each perspective will be near enough the same based on a save state function.. we would all want it.. i mean nothing bad to be said.. but the technical always comes into it because to be frank this is how we create our content to start with.. if someone says oh no you cant do that because of so and so.. you think of another way around it πŸ˜„ its just a thing you get deeply into thinking about.. but as just for perspective its something im sure everyone would love.. especially for Role play sessions .. kinda like DarkRP on gmod.

naive pike
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im not insaulting any one

vocal shard
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"edited"

sterile drift
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(edited)

vocal shard
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pathetic

mental verge
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This kid is trolling the crap outta you guys lol

sterile drift
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Eh yea

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I more just like to see how far this stuff goes

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And it looks like this is as far as it went

vocal shard
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Well.. ah i wish i could have a more technical talk

weary bison
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drop the topic please

gleaming patio
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man vrchat grabs your mouse pointer like some late 90s game

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sometimes it's hard to even get it out of there lol

sterile drift
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Let's move to Random Chat

vocal shard
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tab out once and you get your mouse back @gleaming patio

gleaming patio
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and then it randomly gets caught sometimes

weary bison
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the mouse thing bothers me too sometimes

vocal shard
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hmm im gonna drink some wine..

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im bored and.. feel lonely

weary bison
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something worth noting, the window doesn't capture your mouse when you have the menu open

vocal shard
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vrchat down means.. not fun heh

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I never had it snap back, but yeah, sometimes it's fiddly, especially when you're in VR and virtual desktop

ruby needle
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it's actually not an issue if you know what to do.

gleaming patio
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i think it's still an issue for people who don't know what to do

vocal shard
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Oh virtual desktop is fantastic πŸ˜„ i used that in beta mode on Dk2

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Wicked piece of software

gleaming patio
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virtual desktop really seems to be hated by vrchat

vocal shard
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no problem with it whatsoever

gleaming patio
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sometimes it's like i can hover over things in virtual desktop but i can click NOTHING

cold talon
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Just press ctrl+alt+delete+j+w+f3 to free it

vocal shard
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that's when vrc still has your mouse, open the menu before switching

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ah.. yeah i've never attempted to launch from it before.. i guess its vr but launched inside of a window.. huh.. didnt know that was possible..

gleaming patio
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it's because vrchat actually has two render surfaces

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well maybe 3

vocal shard
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that's nonsense

gleaming patio
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one is in the window, and two more are in the VR eyes

vocal shard
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Honestly..

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what would it look like to run vrchat in that case under VorpX ? its rendered entirely different obviously..

gleaming patio
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probably not a good idea

vocal shard
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both eyes are done at once in one buffer, the same buffer is displayed on your desktop, please don't spread rumors

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i would be interested in seeing the serious amount of memory it would use though

gleaming patio
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so then which eye's view matrix does it render in the window

vocal shard
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the left

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I think im gonna attempt it just to see what would happen because well its an experiment really

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but VorpX makes anything look awesome to be fair..

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Haven't heard vorpx ina while. Lol

gleaming patio
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then we have two view matrices both on one pipeline

vocal shard
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yeah it's called single pass stereo

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@vocal shard i've used it since the very start πŸ˜„ its grown much more than how it used to be πŸ˜›

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Mirrors edge on dk2
^^

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DK2 had terrible visibility for me .. that poxy screendoor drove me mad

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Yeah. It was really bad. Still enjoyed it tho

gleaming patio
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once i grew insane trying to resize the vrchat window because hitting the resize border would just catch the mouse, lol

vocal shard
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miss hl2 vr and tf2 vr

gleaming patio
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good to know it wont do it as long as you're in the menu

vocal shard
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yeah.. Still.. games like dreadhalls are scary in no matter what image res for the most part.. so even in DK1 it would shit the life out of you..

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and you dont notice screendoor on games like that lol

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That isnt a game to me its pure trauma.. i simply cannot even get past the opening of the game without fearing whats around the corner

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I remember white scenes being the worst. Dark Blue looked the best because the sde lines blended in

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oh yeah the blue black

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some even had pink or so they said on the early cv1's

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Jamie you got the wrapper so you can still play all those awesome demo's? πŸ˜›

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Played a bunch if that scuba demo. Amd if you went too far out, the shark would come. Used that to show vr to people because the scuba view added to immersion

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On a new pc now... So no

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read my info and get it again..

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there's so many beautiful demos out there..

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and they work so dam good on cv1

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Awesome. Thanks! ^^

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No probs at all πŸ˜„ these were legends when they started.. and to not have access to that list would be a terrible shame

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Mhmm

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@vocal shard that link is dead though πŸ˜‰

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Does the wrapper make it work for the current oculus runtime? Like could revive work?

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I know i just realised im pissed off

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im updating it now

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Oof

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its literally a giant structure of all titles released

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never ending..

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I know the old studio Ghibli demos, they were pretty sweet

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but the downside is no hand tracking or controller support right?