and then a mod will bitch at us for being bullies
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
winged quartz
I cried at moddex's ban
glossy wharf
winged quartz
feelsbadman
vocal shard
enjoy
boreal ether
With new the oculus quest coming out would it be possible to run vrchat on it?
vocal shard
no
ruby burrow
The first 2017 LTS release was released on March 2018, so that's a reasonable month to expect the 2018 LTS to be released.
rigid crescent
like possibly in an alternate reality
winged quartz
alternate reality chat
vocal shard
or in a dream
winged quartz
ARChat
vocal shard
2018 is still full of bugs sadly ^^'
winged quartz
that remembers me of a song
near saffron
How many of u done Christmas avatars yet? Friends with Christmas avatars been telling me to do 1 but I haven’t even started
winged quartz
Still haven't done it tbh
Didn't do last year either, I hope to do something nice this time
ruby burrow
"Last Christmas..."
"This year..." etc
rigid crescent
i have mine already done lol
there's a JP user i follow that should be maknig a christmas outfit so i'll probably swap to that, it would fit my avatar better
quartz basin
I'll just put a christmas sock over my butt plug.
winged quartz
near saffron
umbral reef
Wat
winged quartz
Can't wait for the Mrs. Claus avatars
inner cape
near saffron
signal wren
How ya'll do those amazing hair colliders?
umbral reef
100 billion dynamic bones in the hair
Aka being unoptimized is the easiest way to get smooth hair
near saffron
Now Let’s make that a public avatar
rigid crescent
and the easiest way for me to block you lol
i do block-avatar on sight if it's a subcom one
or the fullbody dancers
hasty wedge
u guys need to get better pcs lmao
rigid crescent
k
hasty wedge
i run 36 colliders just fine on my avatar
rigid crescent
LOL
gaunt pine
lol all im thinking about is those cheesy shampoo comercials
rigid crescent
oh, shit you got it
placid zealot
Dem full body shimakaze avatars with colliders in every body part 
hasty wedge
that thing is a disgrace dont call it shimakaze
near saffron
Holy! I feel like a monster if I have just 3 coliders
quartz basin
Not bingo worthy since even a 60-core pc would run VRchat like ass.
placid zealot
Walk into a void club and see atleast 4 different models with a shimakaze body taped to it
winged quartz
eaaaaaaah 
hasty wedge
that body isnt even shimakaze
winged quartz
Stop reminding me of it
hasty wedge
those proportions 
quartz basin
I blame Shonzo for the THOT influence.
vocal shard
i blame shonzo for the millions dyn bone in boobs, ass and thighs
glossy wharf
well boys
time to check off read #announcements
cause i just answered that in bug report
vocal shard
quartz basin
THOT = That Hoe Owes Taxes
winged quartz
oh shit
placid zealot
The character is cute but the oversaturated amount of fbt models of it is getting too much 🙃
winged quartz
okay, checked it
placid zealot
Almost memeable
winged quartz
YoO ccCChhEck mm- mMy FBodddyy ttrrackking guys
fucking spasing out
going flying
winged quartz
holy shit
glossy wharf
coincidence, i think not
placid zealot
You can almost use a bingo card to scratch off all the stereotypical things people in those avatars do.
quartz basin
Spreading legs
glossy wharf
FULL BODY BINGO WHEN?
quartz basin
Shaking ass
placid zealot
Like being mute. Or twerking on someone within the first minute
quartz basin
Being fucking obnoxious even though everyone is just staring at them in disgust.
glossy wharf
fbt
literally just laying or sitting in front of mirror
near saffron
I’m gona choose 1
rigid crescent
yeah i block those shimakazes lol
winged quartz
@near saffron ur a thot
placid zealot
Either twerk or sit down all the time. Pick your poison.
quartz basin
You block pretty much everything
placid zealot
Is there anything that doesn't get blocked by mic
vocal shard
default avatars
vocal shard
with mics muted
near saffron
Gona be hard being a thot in FB with my emoji Garfield avatar
rigid crescent
ACKSHUALLY
I have a "system" of sorts. If I block/mute you, you're literally never coming off. If you're muted it's because you were playing music in a corner or farther away and i just didnt want to hear it, these people will be unmuted next time i see them, if ever
quartz basin
Are you playing god?
rigid crescent
Yeah basically
rigid crescent
I mean it helps me keep track of who is staying on the list
vocal shard
what's your IG name ? so i can check if you blocked me randomly
rigid crescent
sometimes I don't wanna hear you sing, sometimes I don't wanna hear your music
but like I said I just mute them if their intent isn't being annoying
but some people literally just walk around playing music out their mic, those are the forever-blocks.
same as discord
vocal shard
i admit that i blocked multiple vive users because they heavily breath in their mic
quartz basin
Sometimes I don't wanna hear you breath because I hurt myself toniiiight.
glossy wharf
WHAT BREATHE DO YOU BREATHE MEAN SVEL?
vocal shard
rigid crescent
I don't really use just block all that often any more
vocal shard
flashback to that black guy in malcom
hasty wedge
vocal shard
i dreaded the moments when he spoke
placid zealot
Mystery solved. Why a majority of fbt dancer vive users are mute because you'd hear them panting into their mic D:
vocal shard
yep
winged quartz
or because they're actually 40 yo men
placid zealot
Joined on one once and all we could hear was heavy breathing lol
rigid crescent
they're usually dudes in their 20s
quartz basin
No, most of them want to be a little girl until they accidentally activate their mic and you hear their husky manly pussy voice.
placid zealot
Yep most of them are revealed to be dudes very true xD
glossy wharf
i mean yeah
winged quartz
I don't really bother if they have a girly man voice 
rigid crescent
"revealeD" most dont hide it if you just ask lol
you can be the most in-shape average person and you'll be breathing hard after dancing for a while lol
glossy wharf
i got fbt for dancing but my fucking playspace is too small
next year i get big room in house 
placid zealot
Most hide it though cmon there lol
glossy wharf
i mean no one tries to hide it usually
placid zealot
You'd have to ask for it lol
winged quartz
Yeah, I'm getting a bigger place so I can get fbt
winged quartz
Imma be a creep in fbt now
rigid crescent
"proper dancing" lol
quartz basin
THOTs don't dance
rigid crescent
okie
vocal shard
not just moving hips left and right
glossy wharf
i mean if you ask them and they tell you they aint really hiding huh
rigid crescent
most don't really hide it to begin with, no one bothers asking is all
placid zealot
Most never talk at all 🤷 Not that I mind. Don't care if they are male or female.
quartz basin
I don't care as well since every VRchat user is a guy by default for me.
rigid crescent
a lot of my friends have FBT but none of them dance, most just sit/stand there and be normal
winged quartz
I see a lot of girls in fbt for some reason
glossy wharf
and even if they tried to hide it as long as they dont hurt anyone with it i dont see a problem
vrc is a getaway for a lot of people after all
near saffron
I’ve gotta couple of friends who do FBT dancing
rigid crescent
I personally haven't heard anyone lying, thoguh I'm sure it happens. at best, they'll just shrug if they're mute
winged quartz
It's a getaway for me feelsbad
placid zealot
I never have a problem with it lol big part of my friend group are mutes 🤷
placid zealot
Or former mutes
rigid crescent
I want full body but I'm saving up for a meetup in january
glossy wharf
just get both
rigid crescent
thinking of doing a few commissions though
glossy wharf
winged quartz
just get both 
quartz basin
A meat up?
rigid crescent
Well, I could do both
glossy wharf
yea do avatar commissions
rigid crescent
but then I'd be extra broke lol
glossy wharf
there isnt enough people doing them already
winged quartz
Dude
glossy wharf
winged quartz
If there wasn't so many people I'd definitely do
glossy wharf
my nans nephew is doing avatar comms at this point
umbral reef
Sai make me something to get me motivated to make avatars :^)
winged quartz
The bad shit is that people only want mmd shit
rigid crescent
lol I've been asked if i did them by a lot of people, and I know a lot that are trying to find one from people they like
placid zealot
If it makes money it makes money🤷
glossy wharf
Believe me when i say
rigid crescent
Wouldn't be hard for me to find a few
vocal shard
i've been asked multiple times too
placid zealot
Unless it's blatantly stolen stuff.
vocal shard
yep
glossy wharf
for a fullbody model with a lot of custom crap
placid zealot
True
glossy wharf
source: Been doing avatar comms since february
rigid crescent
Really? I've been offered 60USD for a simple upload
placid zealot
I've seen people overprice and underprice.
glossy wharf
those are rare
rigid crescent
like a rip from DA
near saffron
Hit FIX model. That be 20 quid
inner cape
rigid crescent
I only did one of them, I knew the others so I did them for free lol
glossy wharf
i had someone pay me 40$ for stretching out a part of a mesh
winged quartz
whoa what
rigid crescent
nice
glossy wharf
which was literally just a subdivided plane then
hasty wedge
hi guys i want to be unique and have a OC model
glossy wharf
but then you have others that dont wanna pay at all
hasty wedge
make it TDA btw
winged quartz
ikr
glossy wharf
i only work on models now if full price is paid beforehand
winged quartz
"make me an original Ooka avatar"
rigid crescent
I've got one friend who does a ton of commissions, never seems to be not doing one at this point
glossy wharf
Yeah once ur in the business word of mouth does most for you
placid zealot
There's people making great stuff for absolutely nothing and people getting payed alot for just small edits lol.
rigid crescent
Yeah Mari
glossy wharf
i mean if you do great stuff for nothing its kinda your own fault
winged quartz
I didn't know people were still paying for it
rigid crescent
one friend stopped playing, but I think his stuff, while basic, was good enough to compete with a lot of model makers
glossy wharf
of not marketing yourself correctly
rigid crescent
He wasn't the best with unity stuff, but when it came to blender? forget about it
winged quartz
And to think that only 200$ would be enough for me to spend the month okay 🤔
safe marsh
should i go i7 9700k or 8700k ( this one has more threads ) for vrchat?
glossy wharf
8700k
placid zealot
It is their fault but it's often even people underpricing themselves and then someone else doing less work for way more then that.
winged quartz
8700k should do it
rigid crescent
he could pump out quality models that people would absolutely overpay for in a day or so since he was on summer break
glossy wharf
you can oc to 5.0 stable if you get a good chip and have watercooling
safe marsh
money is not the problem, but i don't wanna get the 9900k
quartz basin
Just use your GPU as a CPU. Way more cores
glossy wharf
Easiest clap of my life
safe marsh
im gona water cool it with custom loop but not gona delid it
glossy wharf
delid it
rigid crescent
like he was literally DMed out of the blue for a commissions by a fairly big streamer and turned it down because he doesn't like him lol
placid zealot
Haha damn though. Fair decision I guess xD
vocal shard
i'll probably redo my whole custom loop tbh
glossy wharf
mic
vocal shard
i need a giant ass case tho
safe marsh
but is confirmed 8700k better then the 9700k for vrchat?
vrchat rly takes advantage of the extra threads?
quartz basin
Nope
rigid crescent
Well I would understand if he had ever done a commission before,
quartz basin
You will benefit from the better single core performance
glossy wharf
it doesnt on the current version
safe marsh
well in that case 9700k is more appealing
rigid crescent
but he's literally never met the guy, nor did any of his fiends know him, nor was he in any mutual discords lol
glossy wharf
but the performance difference is so minimal
between those two
and the 8700k will eventually get better
with the unity 2017 upgrade
if they decide to make it work properly
rigid crescent
that 4FPS
glossy wharf
yea
rigid crescent
+4FPS I mean
winged quartz
50 fps -> 54 fps sounds nice
rough pulsar
I just want a local dynamic bone toggle.
winged quartz
rigid crescent
I just want a "Yes" or "No" check on "basic optimization"
Like let people autohide "unoptimized" avatars
I promise people would IMMEDIATELY fix their avatars, just like how all these big worlds are being forced to
rough flax
Well if a flat plane is getting 20 fps while an entire complicated club is getting 45 or 60, something is wrong.
rigid crescent
45 or 60 with the same 20 avatars in the same space with the mirror on?
vocal shard
fuck mirrors 
rigid crescent
oh, it's purpleheart nevermind 
vocal shard
wot ?
rough flax
No, literally I get 25 fps in a friend's world with 3 people and 2 gigantic flat planes and a directional light
rigid crescent
wtf is wrong with their world
winged quartz
what is wrong with the world mama
ruby needle
with tha cpu you shouldnt have any issues within the next years.
unless it dies ofc 
final abyss
Not initially thinking that last gen i7 is good
karmic talon
h
median basalt
Hopefully the network issues are related to them trying to fix the current photon exploits
vocal shard
median basalt
There's a new client going around and people are getting logged out, portals spawned on top of them, or crashed
A lot
final abyss
It should
It’s one of the best intels of last gen
It’s like having a 970 comparative to 1070
karmic talon
Yea it would be a problem if it didn't work well
final abyss
If it’s amd then it’s different
Amd is designed to have a shorter lifespan to make the products cheaper
quartz basin
I really like to see some evidence for this hot take.
ruby needle
uhm...
if anything then intel makes the products lifespan limited
just by their crappy paste alone
final abyss
Amd is also more multicore focused vs. Intel/nvidia single core focused
ruby needle
vocal shard
i need that bingo point
final abyss
Amd cards are also easy to overclock, even encouraged
ruby needle
modern sand
I'll start kicking if you don't listen to chat mods
vocal shard
wow party pooper
karmic talon
. . .
final abyss
I listen to advert chan all the time, he’s a good friend ^^
karmic talon
Is it that hard to move channels?
frank hare
add me in vrchat ItsLucy
umbral reef
Old veteran*
final abyss
I’m trusted 😃
final abyss
How does one get veteran?
karmic talon
just a normal user from the olden times
final abyss
If that’s even a thing
night magnet
by not asking for it
quartz basin
Dogeza
karmic talon
h a
vocal shard
I don't even use Vrchat
karmic talon
h
vocal shard
Trusted user ✌
final abyss
Dogeza makes sense
quartz basin
I also like to go to my nearest supermarket every day without buying anything
final abyss
I started using VRC like Oct 2017
karmic talon
I forgot when I first played vrc tbh
I think it was before the knuckles were even a thing
winged quartz
I first play Nov 17 2017 🤔
final abyss
I remember because the halloween even was two weeks later
vocal shard
@quartz basin that's actually a healthy thing to do..
karmic talon
right halloween event
umbral reef
I'm close to my year in vrc
karmic talon
I think I was there at the time too
final abyss
November 17...kanna gang time
karmic talon
The only reason i'm still a lowly user is because I took a massive break
umbral reef
You know
This game needs like a new famous boi
vocal shard
I played this game like two or three times,because idk to play with and going randomly in worlds,is kinda boring
karmic talon
what
umbral reef
It's an social game
What do you expect
glossy wharf
umbral reef
@glossy wharf start a dragon gang 
karmic talon
I forgot what kanna gang was all about
winged quartz
maid dragon gang
karmic talon
I just know that I once saw a bunch of people with a kanna model
glossy wharf
kanna gang was like the harmless version of the crashers and shader collections we have now
they were funny
karmic talon
Or well
winged quartz
Yeah
karmic talon
a few times
glossy wharf
and now we have degenerates
final abyss
Kanna gang was fine
winged quartz
They were banned because of the N world in their music wasn't it
karmic talon
is a sad day
final abyss
Until the racists joined
final abyss
And the hackers joined
karmic talon
Ok then I can kinda see why they got banned
winged quartz
pedo gang
karmic talon
didn't they like, ban people for only using the model tho?
final abyss
They couldn’t tell who was who
umbral reef
It was a big clusterfuck
glossy wharf
just like you'll get a ban for a pepe avatar
karmic talon
I mean, how do you tell who was whoo really
final abyss
So they just banned everyone with the model active
karmic talon
h
vocal shard
lol
final abyss
At least they bragged about that
signal thunder
konnichiwa fellow anime kids
winged quartz
YO MEEKA
signal thunder
yoooooooooooooo
vocal shard
Oh shiet bingo
signal thunder
is that the rare bornato flower
winged quartz
is that the famous meeka
signal thunder
yes i am famous to three people
vocal shard
B... But... I'm a Westaboo 😭
final abyss
I’m happy that they are gone
winged quartz
yo meeka are you happy that the kanna gang is gone?
signal thunder
lol
winged quartz
that's not a point to my bingo
signal thunder
my b
vocal shard
But Panties and stockings, JoJo, Akira, Berserk are literally some of the more Westaboo likeness'nesses
vocal shard
Yes, it has a Shota being perved on by a black pope 
@winged quartz
winged quartz
Dude, jojo is the only anime I'm actually following
final abyss
Hmm
winged quartz
@vocal shard holy shit
signal thunder
sono chi no sadaaaammeee
final abyss
I follow the manga
signal thunder
yeah i do, feel weird about the ed tho
final abyss
The ed makes me feel like im gonna get made love to on a bear skin rug
winged quartz
it's gold
signal thunder
ik
vocal shard
It's not as creepy as you would think though, it's used more like comedic value, which shocked me 👀
final abyss
Fighting gold, even 😉 @winged quartz
signal thunder
it's just weird for an anime closing to have the words "feeling so horrrrnnyy" in the lyrics
winged quartz
it's fighting gold
signal thunder
well, i guess not that weird...
winged quartz
DUDE
vocal shard
@winged quartz oi, you wanna gibb em what I gave you*?*
signal thunder
lol
winged quartz
@vocal shard which one
vocal shard
The torture song
signal thunder
my middle school i mean
winged quartz
Ohhhhhh, I still didn't watch it helton
yo meeka how old are you? I never really asked
signal thunder
old af
vocal shard
And Gibb em the verse for that video
signal thunder
im literally the reverse age i was when that song came out
vocal shard
Are you old enough to drink 😏*?*
winged quartz
I can't do math I'm brainless atm
signal thunder
definitely
final abyss
za warudo, tokiyo tomare
vocal shard
23
signal thunder
lmao
winged quartz
reverse age he was when that song came out
signal thunder
i thought that song came out when i was 13
winged quartz
🤔
modern sand
#general-media please
glossy wharf
final abyss
JoJo and vrchat are the same things though
Everyone has the same physique, wear weird outfits and have strange abilities
safe marsh
o0
rocky cliff
Hey VRchat! I just obtained a Oculus Rift and I am interested in joining vrchat. ATM I do not have a PC for my rift. My budget is 1500-2000$ for a computer, anyone have any info on where to start looking or where I am able to get a PC to run Vrchat at optimum performance
rigid crescent
I'm guessing you just want prebuilt
you can get jsut about anything with that budget lol i'd just look into a prebuilt Pc with a 1070 or 1080 if that's your alley
glossy wharf
Just a quick headsup mickey, you wont get good performance in VRChat at all
it will lag in most public instances
floral aspen
depends on the world and the avatars in the world
rigid crescent
You'll probably pull 45-60 frames on most decent rigs in a public unless someoone is being a dick
you're a rare one though, someone who already has VR getting into VRC
glossy wharf
60 isnt good
rigid crescent
i don't see that very often
glossy wharf
90 is good.
glossy wharf
and you dont get that in vrc
floral aspen
60 is fine
is it as good as 90? of course not. But it's not terrible
floral aspen
The oculus go and Quest would like to have a word with you
rigid crescent
60 is pretty good, you can tell the difference between 60 and 90 obviously, but it's negligible for stuff like just sitting around with friends
floral aspen
those headsets will have a max of 75 Hz
covert linden
I get like 20 frames so if I got vr my laptop would give up
glossy wharf
i dont care about the oculus go and quest, 90 is the standard for gaming oriented VR
rocky cliff
so what can I do to get like smooth sailing 24/7
floral aspen
yeah, 90 is the standard but it's not the end of the world if you don't hit it
rocky cliff
2000$ i feel like should carry me
glossy wharf
I never said that
rocky cliff
im just not very smart about computer components
rocky cliff
for instance
covert linden
I suck at them too :P
rocky cliff
like a i7 GtX 1080
glossy wharf
mickey any i7 should do and a 1080 is fine
rigid crescent
for just about anything really
vocal shard
Ryzen 7 is better if he is doing multiple things
glossy wharf
talking about the newer generations of i7s
rigid crescent
most likely
floral aspen
and I would disagree. 60 is still okay, anything below that is bad
and an i7 with a 1080 will get you decent performance most of the time
outside of VRChat you'll get great performance
glossy wharf
ryzen are generally good for vr and co as most applications use multicore properly
vocal shard
Yeah
glossy wharf
vrchat doesnt
its poorly optimized
most things run on a single thread
so you want to get the most single core performance you can
vocal shard
Imho no
glossy wharf
i can recommend an i7 8700k it has a good single core performance and has 12 threads so you can have pretty nice performance on anything multithreaded aswell
rocky cliff
seems like i see crazy prices from 1300-2000 with the same type specs spread out thru diff brands
rigid crescent
it is if you dont know what youre doing
glossy wharf
I mean
floral aspen
Right now it is. Building a pc right now is expensive
glossy wharf
theres not much to know about assembling a pc
rigid crescent
prebuilt is the "safe" bet since I don't try and convince anyone to buidl their own any more
glossy wharf
also that is not completely true anymore tidus
gpu prices have gone down to normal again
the only thing a bit high in price is ram atm
but that wont change anytime soon
floral aspen
since when? As of a week ago gpu prices were through the roof
vocal shard
I learned to build my pc alone is easy,not super easy but is not impossible
flint ore
Am I like the only one who seems to freeze on Exozze's avatar world when I join it???
glossy wharf
gpu prices have been normal for a good 6 months now
rough pulsar
I built my desktop during the price insanity, yay.
Don't regret it though, no problems when doing real heavy shit.
covert linden
I was gonna build my own but I would have a big struggle with puttinf the pieces together
glossy wharf
700€ for a 1080, could get a ti with that now
rough pulsar
Have a look at a prebuilt and what's in it, then compare that price to getting all the parts individually and see if the extra cost for not having to build it yourself is worth it to you.
rocky cliff
im just not sure how much i should be spending for something like that
covert linden
Would the same stats be good for a pc that will also be used for big animations and video editing
wooden jolt
It costs quite a bit in the end, you could get a premade one and just upgrade it over time
rocky cliff
why cant you
vocal shard
😦
floral aspen
1080ti's are really expensive right now if you can even find them
glossy wharf
have fun with your timebomb fez
glossy wharf
the rtx series has a comparably high failure rate
vocal shard
Lol timebomb only a few models and founders have that problem
glossy wharf
afaik the whole lineup
the 2080tis were just reported more cause those were the mass sales in the beginning
cause its an enthusiast lineup after all
the usual consumer doesnt know what the f raytracing is
rough pulsar
Ahh.
Damn, I'm glad I didn't hold out for them when I got my 1080ti's.
rough pulsar
use imgur or something
rocky cliff
main leaf
covert linden
Not working
glossy wharf
thats a pretty good build
rocky cliff
think ill run smooth most the time?
glossy wharf
that thing should run pretty smooth
covert linden
@rocky cliff my concern is the top says 16gb ram but the style says 8gb
rocky cliff
i just want to be able to be in a populated room with alot going on and not see my frames drop or lag
wooden jolt
I am amd radion
wooden jolt
Have*
rocky cliff
i see, i should shoot for a 16Gb?
vocal shard
ram to gpu dedicated
glossy wharf
the gpus ram so to say
covert linden
Aah
wooden jolt
Have you tried to make your own computer threw a website
vocal shard
That's good
rocky cliff
i have not
safe marsh
id get a 1080ti though
glossy wharf
thats actually a pretty good price
for what you gettin
why would you get a 1080 ti
over a 2080
rocky cliff
also curious ab that
wooden jolt
Or get one custom made threw a web-sight
safe marsh
same or better performance and WAY cheaper
vocal shard
Yeah
covert linden
Whats better, the first or second one mickey sent
glossy wharf
second one is better
rocky cliff
my rift arrives tmw so im tryna pull the trigger today
safe marsh
well i got mine this month 170euros cheaper then the cheapest 2080 so..
covert linden
I wanna get a new pc too so Ill have to save that
glossy wharf
Yeah thats wonderful we are looking at prebuilts rn
rocky cliff
where do you build at, website
glossy wharf
pcpartpicker
safe marsh
my bad
glossy wharf
for example
you can look through parts and then order them
and build your pc at home
covert linden
My pcs always end up like $7000on thst site
rocky cliff
i see yea
glossy wharf
@covert linden thats cause you probably just smack in the most expensive stuff without knowing what it does
covert linden
I choose the best for everything
glossy wharf
"best"
safe marsh
the 'best'
covert linden
Yep thats exactly what I do xD
glossy wharf
you mean the most overpriced stuff
plain ridge
Don’t put unnecessary stuff in. Was able to throw a decent pc together for about $3500
glossy wharf
which has a shit performance to price ratio
vocal shard
The best right now lol
covert linden
No I do highest rating of everything
glossy wharf
you can get a good high end rig for 1700-2000
rigid crescent
the "build your own pc" sites the the biggest scam
rocky cliff
my budget is 1500-2000 so im rly not sure to buy this one on amazon or try to build
glossy wharf
mickey
rigid crescent
You know, it may be cheaper to buy all the parts and pay some service to build it for you
rocky cliff
yes mama
rough pulsar
I used https://pcpartpicker.com/ for my build earlier this year and all went well.
plain ridge
Never go through a service that builds for you lol. Charging hundreds of dollars just to do it on top of shitty part prices
floral aspen
"decent"
$3500
boi that's a beastly rig, nothing decent about it
safe marsh
If you are scared to do it urself u dont have a friend that knows how to build pc's?
glossy wharf
Yea if you dm me
plain ridge
I was scared to go with water cooling for my first build
floral aspen
get better friends
vocal shard
lol
glossy wharf
i will be reminded to look at it
at home
why are you scared of water cooling
aio coolers are properly sealed
and no work
its just mounting like a fan and a cpu cooler
floral aspen
maybe he was talking about a custom loop? Those could be intimidating to a first time builder
plain ridge
Just didn’t want something to go wrong with it to be honest. Was probably nothing to worry about but I saw it as an unneeded risk
rough pulsar
I have an aio cooler on my threadripper and I can't get it to go over about 68c
wooden jolt
It’s a websight to see what parts and everything you might want
floral aspen
but if it's just an AIO cooler, those are dead simple to install
glossy wharf
so around 30-45 mins
vocal shard
Threadripper are wow
rocky cliff
i will i dmed you
covert linden
Weve already discussed that site neko and how basically tis a scam
glossy wharf
yee
plain ridge
Have a few fans in my build and I’ve never seen temps hit over 75
covert linden
Didnt that one person say it was like two seconds ago
glossy wharf
its a literally the best site for picking parts in the US
covert linden
Paying too much for bad parts
floral aspen
lol how is pcpartpicker a scam?
wooden jolt
I don’t trust cooking liquid
rocky cliff
hmm
covert linden
Something like thatttt
glossy wharf
no they meant pages where you choose parts and they build it for you
plain ridge
Pcpartpicker was amazing
rocky cliff
bad parts?
grand thistle
aio coolers can still break more easy then air coolers
covert linden
Ohh ok
wooden jolt
Cooling
floral aspen
pcpartpicker made building a pc really easy.
glossy wharf
pcpartpicker is literally the best thing to look at for comparing prices in the US
^
what tidus said
wooden jolt
It’s ligit just a recommendation
vocal shard
I think this server should have slowmode,too fast chat
rough pulsar
Or anywhere, I'm in the UK and used PCPP for my build
floral aspen
yeah, pcpartpicker doesn't even sell parts, it just tells you where the lowest prices are
inner cape
He doesn't know
glossy wharf
its not good in germany sadly, lots of retailers arent listed
inner cape
grand thistle
it's also good for compatibility of parts pcpartpicker
floral aspen
^
wooden jolt
^
plain ridge
I was lucky enough to live near both a Newegg shipment center as well as a few smaller retailers so I was able to sort of sit on parts and buy them as they went on sale
rocky cliff
I just wanna live in vrchat forever lol
covert linden
Me tooo
wooden jolt
No
rough pulsar
I mainly used it for compatability since I hadn't upgraded since like 2012.
glossy wharf
yea
covert linden
I attended my cousins vr wedding last night and having to sleep was so sadddd
glossy wharf
shits scary when you dont really look at hardware for a while
and you dont know whats compatible
wooden jolt
There’s a lot of drama
rocky cliff
i luv drama
plain ridge
I’ve been debating on upgrading to a 2080. Built my rig some time back so it only has a 1070 FE
wooden jolt
😂 I have 2650 hours in vrchat
grand thistle
the most scarry thing is ram compadibility with your motherboard and cpu for amd cpu's
floral aspen
the honeymoon period for VRChat will wear off eventually and then being in game will be like just another Tuesday
you don't wanna live in there forever lol
glossy wharf
i mean if you have drama you hang out with the wrong people in vrc
rocky cliff
ive never played vrchat or used vr so this will all be new to me
vocal shard
that's sad
rocky cliff
i tired the oculus go, that thing is junk
covert linden
Ive been playing this game since like may its not gonna wear off
glossy wharf
If you dont enjoy the game, you should find new friends just saying.
rocky cliff
total junk
glossy wharf
¯_(ツ)_/¯
floral aspen
Oculus go isn't really a gaming headset lol
mostly just for media consumption
rough pulsar
@rocky cliff 3dof mobile VR is nothing compared to 6dof roomscale with controllers
rocky cliff
yea i know
covert linden
And yeah I just play vr with my friends, we have our own group its super fun and id live there forever with them
wooden jolt
If vrchat can fix a few things and all then it’s gonna be decent it’s a good game
covert linden
No drama if your friends arent dramatic
Yeah
Like I dont wantt my arms to block my view when I laaay
inner cape
Forever in vrc
You'll get timed out and die
wooden jolt
^
grand thistle
no you will die of no food and water
vocal shard
Living in a game isn't a great idea,ever
glossy wharf
just put a water bottle on your avatar
floral aspen
unless you have super entertaining friends you'll get bored eventually.
covert linden
No its ok ill eat at the grand lasagna
plain ridge
Drama is just a constant in life. Best option is to be a mute loli so you can sit back and just watch the show
wooden jolt
^
glossy wharf
being mute in vrc 
inner cape
mutes
rocky cliff
ima need some cool ppl to hang in vrchat wit
covert linden
I do have super entertaining friends considering one is my boyfriend, ones my cousin, and ones crippledspiderman
queen mango
I'm sometimes like that.. Usually when trying to pick public world avatars
glossy wharf
best option is having fun with friends and memeing the shit out of it making fun things like hells kitchen with scuffed alien avatars or fake bitconnect presentations inviting your whole friendlist
covert linden
You can hang with my group if you want
wooden jolt
I have seen some of the ban logs from people and there pretty funny
vocal shard
Same Mickey
wooden jolt
Like one was from the king of blare
rocky cliff
yea my main thing is just being social and meeting ppl
covert linden
I make friends sometimes by going up and asking if theyre riding the rollercoaster
Its hilarious
wooden jolt
😂 I can’t remember the whole thing it was the beginning theam song then went to something about a client
inner cape
I make friends by pointing out the scuff on people's models 
wooden jolt
^
rocky cliff
lmao
covert linden
I paid for my model and it makes me sad because theres a bit of hair that just flys behind me and they say they cant find iit
rocky cliff
how many hours a day do any of you play?
covert linden
So im stuck with a floating blue chink of hair
rocky cliff
you can buy models from people? custom?
vocal shard
wow
wooden jolt
Mmhm
floral aspen
I used to play 6+ hours a day when I first started, but then I got a new job so now that takes up most of my time
covert linden
Thats what I do because whenever I tried it was really bad
wooden jolt
😂 my job is streaming y’all game
covert linden
Ive bought like 2 from people
wooden jolt
But ya on the modle part
rocky cliff
mm ima look into that
inner cape
Used to play 8-12 a day
Now cause I'm extra active and my eyes became weak, can only handle 5-6
rocky cliff
im pissed that ill have my headset before a computer
wooden jolt
But I’m getting there
rocky cliff
im tempted to go to best buy and seeing what they carry
inner cape
Buy a pc first dummy
covert linden
Ive been searching for people who make them like from scratch almost
inner cape
Lmao
grand thistle
i'm iritated that my headset is sort of not working right now
inner cape
Sucks to be you m8
wooden jolt
@rocky cliff I got mine from cosco and I can upgrade anytime
covert linden
I have a vandeta against apple products
grand thistle
hp windows mr
rocky cliff
i did see the towers they had on cosco, not that bad
grand thistle
but could be more that my windows is borked
umbral reef
@covert linden You had imo a shitty avatar fixer then
wooden jolt
So I honestly recommend getting a premade one and just upgrade over time
umbral reef
And plenty make from nothing- Just costs a lot
plain ridge
Think Cosco has custom build options at one point too
umbral reef
Goes for anythng like this
wooden jolt
Yesh trap
covert linden
@umbral reef probably but Its the only person I could find who agreed to rig it for me, most people who sell avatars dont use nice shaders too and this person does
grand thistle
if you get a pc get one that has off the shelf parts tho not a hp dell or another brand
umbral reef
Where did you look? There is a special server for peeps like that
covert linden
I googled it, and went to a forum
inner cape
I just bought all my parts off Amazon and built myself
rocky cliff
i plan to wait for the other user to help me possibly build something
inner cape
umbral reef
To be fair- IF you care enough and want to get anything high end to game on
Just built it yourself
Its not that hard now adays and wayyy cheaper
wooden jolt
@covert linden I can make ya a modle for Le free if ya want >^< I can’t make good ones yet but I can continue to try and get better while working on it
inner cape
Head swaps 
wooden jolt
Lol I can do a lil more then that
inner cape
Do you even optimize m8 
rigid crescent
I head/hair swap a lot since I use the same "character" lol
plain ridge
You will also have better control of things like amount of usb/hdmi ports. Seems like a lot of prebuilt skimp on those
rocky cliff
@umbral reef true but someone like me with very small knowledge of components its hard to build something
true
umbral reef
@rocky cliff You know about a website called google.com?
rigid crescent
can you follow instructions to a children's lego set?
if so, you can build a computer
umbral reef
Its great- You can learn anything and everything thanks to that website 👀
covert linden
Neko are you sure? Thats really kind but its also a lot of work
umbral reef
Same goes for youtube.com
rocky cliff
never heard of it
grand thistle
the Walmart pc are a piece of crap so stay away of those
covert linden
@umbral reef oclac do you know where I can find one of those servers?
umbral reef
How to make avatars, how to build pc's, how to find the right parts, how to fix clipping problems
rigid crescent
lol
wooden jolt
@covert linden mmhm I love a challenge I can’t make from scratch because that’s a lil harder,if that’s ok
umbral reef
@covert linden #community-servers-old and then VRC traders
plain ridge
Yeah the Walmart pcs are trash
umbral reef
Walmarkt pc's are shit for the price
Other companies provide a better pc for the same price
And they dont have a dumb design like no dust filters
But #general-media really
rigid crescent
just clean your room forehead
covert linden
Thank you oclac
floral aspen
eww yes, don't buy a wal-mart pc
umbral reef
Lets move to #general-media before chat dies fast
royal pond
Heard they’re horrible
vocal shard
Why people keep to saying just use google,that not the proper way to made comunication,is that hard to answer question these days lol
grand thistle
yeah no usb3 in the front
rigid crescent
do yo uwant a conversation or do you want exact instructions on how to solve your problem?
inner cape
Well you should google before asking in public places
rigid crescent
Like, are you trying to be my friend, or do you want to know "How to make Creme Brulee"
rocky cliff
google yea ive been looking up stuff but when I read about Vrchat it seems there are multiple ways of going about what will make it run well, seems like all over the net there are all diff brands and prices and googleing if its good there always is a “yea its good” but its not for sure
rigid crescent
VRChat will not run perfectly like most games will
rocky cliff
plus whats the best bang for my buck? some shit its seems overpriced or underpowered
rigid crescent
Odds are your experience wil lbe great with anything 1070+
grand thistle
vrchat needs a fast cpu and a good gpu
rocky cliff
true, thays why im trying to build something for really optimum vrchat
rigid crescent
That's not exactly true at all lol you don't need that good of a GPU for VRChat
You can't, basically
plain ridge
I use a 1070 and 4770k overclocked a bit and almost never get lag.
grand thistle
cpu cores don't realy matter if you play vrchat
rigid crescent
1080 and a new i7 is fine
wooden jolt
😂 boi I have a dell pc
umbral reef
High core speed does
rocky cliff
@plain ridge mm interesting ty for the share
rigid crescent
you'll be fine, now just find the cheapest one
umbral reef
If you have the money- Yea why not
grand thistle
for sure even overkill
grand thistle
1070 and up is good enough
rocky cliff
ok ill just die there
plain ridge
Could get a 2070 for more than half that and probably still be a bit overkill
grand thistle
maybe look at a 1080 ti it's cheaper then the 2080
rocky cliff
i will
grand thistle
and should be the same performance
royal pond
I’m on 970 and it is actually playable
rocky cliff
thanks for all the info everyone, very helpful and insightful
wooden jolt
👌🏻
fleet ice
would a wmr work better on a 1050ti than using an oculus
night magnet
oculus superior master race
fleet ice
on a budget btw
wooden jolt
Rip vive users the other day
rigid crescent
it would work the same
grand thistle
i guess depends but problems getting it to run a wmr
wooden jolt
😣 I really want full body for oculus
rigid crescent
@grand thistle Guide to getting WMR to run VRChat: Press "Play Game in VR"
night magnet
Nolo is its own hand controllers and headset tracker
wooden jolt
😣😣 wat
rigid crescent
It's extremely easy lol
grand thistle
wmr has a lot of weird probblems tho as i have it
night magnet
you need a kinect, which is also super cheap
wooden jolt
🤔
rigid crescent
Really? I don't really know anyone with issues, one of my friends has it with full body too
night magnet
its about $180-$200 for full body for oculus after you buy nolo, driver4vr, and kinect
wooden jolt
That’s not that bad
night magnet
works just as well as vive too
placid zealot
Depends if you plan out going all out and get vive trackers 🤷 If else either nolo or kinect.
grand thistle
well when it works it works great but when it doesn't you have problems