vrchat-general-2

[cold talon]

[hasty wedge]

@lilac swan i dont see it on the nintendo shop?

[vocal shard]

[lilac swan]

🙃

I told you to enable VR mode, didn't I?

[mighty galleon]

It's on the hidden menu

[compact river]

[hasty wedge]

how do u turn on vr mode?

[cold talon]

I demand full body traking for switch!!!

[lilac swan]

If you don't know I'm not gonna tell

[compact river]

Put it in a blender

[hasty wedge]

oh

ill try google then

ill @ later if i find it

[compact river]

Has to be a vr ready blender tho

[hasty wedge]

vr ready blender?

the switch is a console

[compact river]

Yes you are cute

[mighty galleon]

Next gen blenders

[compact river]

Stay this way

[cold talon]

You have to root your switch first

Duh

[vocal shard]

Lol

[hasty wedge]

o well

u guys made me turn on my switch for nothing

vrchat community zzz

[cold talon]

Don't look at me

Look at zarni

[hasty wedge]

hope u had fun for those minute

[cold talon]

Or jamie

[mighty galleon]

Look at bahka

[vocal shard]

O.o

[lilac swan]

LookAtTarget

[compact river]

Nani

[hasty wedge]

whitmire is that u irl?

[vocal shard]

hell yeah VRChat 2

[hasty wedge]

its hot

[cold talon]

LookAtIK

[vocal shard]

coming in 2020

[compact river]

[vocal shard]

will be only for full body users

[mighty galleon]

Let Jamie answer you kuso

[cold talon]

Oi zarni btw, look at ik is disabled on avatars for some reason

[hasty wedge]

@vocal shard is that him?

[vocal shard]

O.o
Yeah... im sure that's Sean...

[cold talon]

I think spanner forgot to re enable it

[hasty wedge]

whos sean

[mighty galleon]

Me

[hasty wedge]

im talking abou

oh

[compact river]

No me

[hasty wedge]

well ur cute lol

[mighty galleon]

Click my profile

[hasty wedge]

i cant

[compact river]

Dam right im a cute

[mighty galleon]

Phone?

[hasty wedge]

my dad doesnt allow me to

[mighty galleon]

Lol

Ok

Well if you clicked my pic you'd see my name is Sean Whitmire

[hasty wedge]

o!

and why does @vocal shard know?

girlfriend?

[compact river]

[mighty galleon]

Bc I've been here for a while and Jamie's a dude xD

[vocal shard]

He used to go by his full name

[hasty wedge]

oh sorry

[vocal shard]

Lol

[cold talon]

And i used to go by jams name

[hasty wedge]

good thing gays are accepted now

lol

[mighty galleon]

I'm only using my last name bc it's my vrchat accounts name

[vocal shard]

...

[mighty galleon]

I'm straight

Almost anyone who's been here a while know this is me xD

[hasty wedge]

understandable have a nice day

🏃 ミ

[mighty galleon]

Lol

[vocal shard]

Lol

[compact river]

Who knew huh

[vocal shard]

Got me

[compact river]

They a thing

[vocal shard]

I'm too drunk for this

[hasty wedge]

[cold talon]

( ಠ益ಠ) damit I don't have the jam account

[compact river]

Mmm jam

[hasty wedge]

changes avatar once

you are changing ur avatar too fast

[cold talon]

Classic discord

[compact river]

Name does that 2

Well

[cold talon]

NOW WAIT 2 HOURS!

[compact river]

For like 3

Ooof

[hasty wedge]

[vocal shard]

Did you change your name as well? Because I thought I checked your name to see if it was you or someone 🤔

[drifting ibex]

does anyone know how to make the vrchat mirror window that is up when you're in VR show a 3rd person view like streamers do? they seem to also be able to grab the virtual camera and move it around? or something like that

[vocal shard]

I don't know anymore

Lol

Record from two sources

[hasty wedge]

the discord name has always been the same

[mighty galleon]

<.< >..

jamie

[vocal shard]

Yeah...

[compact river]

Jamie its yo wife

[mighty galleon]

the smokes finally starting to go away after another week of fire

now i can see the street!

[compact river]

I like 🔥

[vocal shard]

Oh?... Sorry, didn't know there was a fire

[drifting ibex]

@vocal shard yeah, recording from both OpenVR mirror & and normal VR chat mirror window, but how do you make the VR chat mirror window not show just the same thing that's already in the OpenVR mirror, but the 3rd person view?

[compact river]

Not the smoke tho

[mighty galleon]

cali's always on fire lol

[vocal shard]

@drifting ibex the stream camera. It's only usable in vr.

[compact river]

When Canada had that huge fire my area was a white wonder land

[vocal shard]

Same

[mighty galleon]

jamies in canada?

[vocal shard]

Yeah... BC canada

[compact river]

It blew down into the states

Also

[queen mango]

Check the temperature in Manila

[mighty galleon]

thats too sad, you cant have loli merchandise

[drifting ibex]

@vocal shard oh wow freaking derp. it's built in to the game.. I thought people were doing it with mods didnt think to look in the games options.. thanks! now I feel dumb 😃

[queen mango]

It's 32°C in here

[compact river]

All i know is its cold and ❄

[vocal shard]

Wish it was 32

[queen mango]

Damn, Paradise is gone

[mighty galleon]

it doesnt even feel like winter yet here

[vocal shard]

Don't like the cold ...

[mighty galleon]

oh yeah, paradise is just destroyed

[queen mango]

Meanwhile, my country's sitting at 32° and no-one minds it

[compact river]

Snow is paradise

[mighty galleon]

butte county is just rough right now

[cold talon]

Jam is getting pinged every 10 seconds

[queen mango]

[vocal shard]

Lol

[compact river]

Winter wonderland > smoke wonderland

Trust

[mighty galleon]

yeah lol

[compact river]

I was working at a power co op then and my co worker would not leave the truck when the smoke was all over

[queen mango]

Tokyo should be a good place to spend autumn. Cold, but it ain't cold enough that you need thick layers of clothing.
I may have said this sometime ago, though

[compact river]

[mighty galleon]

spend your fall and winter in california, we dont have cold

[compact river]

I did everything that whole week

[cold talon]

Winter
-5 degree, no snow, very humid

That's the best one

[compact river]

I hate hotter places

Ish

[queen mango]

Me too

[mighty galleon]

i prefer cold places

thats why in winter i keep a fan on and the window open

[queen mango]

Also, isn't Jam going to shleep?

[vocal shard]

I just woke up

Lol

I take a nap and then get up to play soon

[compact river]

Nani

[cold talon]

@vocal shard morning jamie

[vocal shard]

I usually play from 12-3am my time

Lol. Morn ^^

[mighty galleon]

i read that as "lol. mom"

[queen mango]

[cold talon]

[vocal shard]

[queen mango]

Man, I'm never gonna be able to find a time to play VRChat this week. I had to help out my group classmates with setting up their shop to sell product.
It's in preparation for the event that will start on Friday

[mighty galleon]

?

event?

tell me more

[queen mango]

Yea. Senior High School Night

[vocal shard]

Oh... Well, real life is more important than a game ^^

[mighty galleon]

oh boring

[queen mango]

Nov. 16

It's not the usual formal parties and serenades. It's more partying and raves.

But still within the perimeter of the school

[mighty galleon]

i dont like those things so im out

[queen mango]

Oof

[mighty galleon]

bye

[queen mango]

[covert linden]

Ive been ignoring reality to play vrchat

[vocal shard]

Lol

[covert linden]

Just get yourself a vrchat bf

Then

Quit your job

Jk dont do that

Jobs are important

[queen mango]

Oh jeez

[unreal bison]

finally got my oculus rift OwO

[meager solstice]

Congrats

Have fun

[cold talon]

You could have said jk sooner, already quit my job

[unreal bison]

now I just hope i won't f up installing stuff to use it

[meager solstice]

I mean it’s pretty simple

[cold talon]

Nah it quite plug an play

[unreal bison]

wutface

i thought I need to install some stuff/

[cold talon]

You do, but it's really just clicking next most of the time for calibrating and paring

[meager solstice]

Install oculus software that’s about it....

[unreal bison]

oh.

[cold talon]

The hardest part is probably finding good batteries

[unreal bison]

doesn't it already provides batteries?

[meager solstice]

Yes

[unreal bison]

oh wait... i have to keep buying batteries?

[meager solstice]

Yes

Double A battery’s each controller takes 1

[unreal bison]

fak :/

[meager solstice]

I mean they will last a long time

[cold talon]

Mhm, but they last quite a while and the sleep on those controllers is really efficient

[meager solstice]

I change mine about 2-3 weeks?

[hasty wedge]

u could buy a billion batteries on amazon for only like 14$

still lasting me a year

[meager solstice]

^true

[unreal bison]

dafuq

[queen mango]

Why not rechargeable batteries?

[hasty wedge]

thats a waste of time

[cold talon]

Sand filled batteries

[hasty wedge]

batteries are cheap

[unreal bison]

i thought some people charge their controllers?

[cold talon]

Ah that's for the vive

[unreal bison]

oh

[cold talon]

Those have internal lithium ion

[queen mango]

Of course, that is why Vive is overpriced

[unreal bison]

I see..

[queen mango]

Their controllers are rechargeable

[cold talon]

But from what I know they discharge quite fast not sure if it's true

[meager solstice]

And last a lot less

[unreal bison]

yikes

[cold talon]

Ok guess it is

[hasty wedge]

trackers are so bad

they only last like 5 hours

https://tinyurl.com/ycckyadn

[cold talon]

Nonono vive knowshowtomakegoodproducts

[unreal bison]

i don't think i'll play 5hours straight looking at myself

[cold talon]

So shush about battery life

@unreal bison that's what everyone says

[queen mango]

Gaben intensifies

[cold talon]

[unreal bison]

lul

[hasty wedge]

[meager solstice]

U will be surprised about how you lose track of time while I’m vr tbh

[unreal bison]

I'm still thinking whether I'll regret getting it or nah but I've always thought about touchin.. i mean patting lolis

[queen mango]

Not unless you model a clock into your avatar

@unreal bison You can touch me

I won't mind

[unreal bison]

OwO

[ebon bear]

How would I use the stream camera

[umbral reef]

@unreal bison only streamers sit in front of a mirror for 5 hours

[median basalt]

Use eneloops

[unreal bison]

LUL

[hasty wedge]

tfw im a streamer now

[median basalt]

Rechargeable batteries is one reason why Oculus Touch > Vive Wands

[hasty wedge]

time to block myself

[cold talon]

Model a rollex

[unreal bison]

notlikethis

[ebon bear]

I've seen streamers use it but its really confusing

[median basalt]

The stream camera is pretty simple to grasp

[ebon bear]

Is it like a program

[unreal bison]

ayy at least i dont need to tape my sensor on the walls

[median basalt]

It's a handheld camera that makes the game's desktop window mirror the camera view rather than your own.

That's all the stream camera is.

[queen mango]

@unreal bison Isn't that a WMR thing?

[unreal bison]

WMR wut is that

[hasty wedge]

jamies sponsor

[vocal shard]

can set oculus sensors on the desk i think is what they mean

[unreal bison]

oh

yeah it has stand

[vocal shard]

rather than mounting to walls

[unreal bison]

1important question , can i still wear my glasses

[vocal shard]

wmr tracks inside out, so no sensors

is what elire means

[hasty wedge]

how big are they

[queen mango]

And less issues of space. It's more of whether you face that's the issue

[unreal bison]

hmm not too big or small , medium size?

[hasty wedge]

ye

[unreal bison]

im skinny and i weight around 49kg

[hasty wedge]

but make sure u dont accidently scratch the lenses

xdddddddddd

[umbral reef]

Wat hoe tiny are you then

[unreal bison]

my lens or the headset?

[umbral reef]

How*

[queen mango]

Skinny

[hasty wedge]

hmd lenses

[unreal bison]

im like a midget asian dude

[queen mango]

Ooh

[unreal bison]

malaysian chinese

[queen mango]

Filipino here

[unreal bison]

169cm is my height

[umbral reef]

Swamp Germany (Dutch)

[unreal bison]

😮

[queen mango]

I'm surprised there are more Asians playing the game than there are Westerners

[unreal bison]

wut , i can't tell

[queen mango]

Timezones

[unreal bison]

now that i think about it.. i kinda only have like 6.9usable gb of ram even tho i bought 8gm

[queen mango]

Part of it is used for background processes

As is standard for all systems. Even consoles

[unreal bison]

well , all i know is how to play video games. I don't rly know much about the PC itself

[queen mango]

Ah, okay

[unreal bison]

thanks for the info tho ❤

[queen mango]

[dawn pecan]

You should be able to use all 8, but in those 8, background shit is included. The memory you can see in the taskmanager processes won't add up to more than 6 or 7, but it will show 8 used on the graph thingy

[unreal bison]

its taking years for me to install the oculus software :/

oh I see , good to know that

[dawn pecan]

My cats won't bake an atlas. Line 79 "Texture object has no attribute image"

[hollow sluice]

attempting to install unity so i can upload an avatar hhh

[dawn pecan]

Be sure to get the right Unity version, it's not the 2018 one

[hollow sluice]

oh really

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

oh ok i got it

[ocean bramble]

@dawn pecan Try to update material combiner

[unreal bison]

so im still at the tutorial on how to set up oculus and im stuck

at put your headset on and adjust your lens , nothing happens.

[dawn pecan]

I just downloaded it, Hotox

[hasty wedge]

press B on ur right controller

or was it A

[dawn pecan]

It's a strange model though, in a strange scene which uses what looks like 50 nodes.
The rendering looks awesome in Blender, but very poor in Unity compared, which is why I'm trying to bake it

[unreal bison]

it says continue in vr

but i see nothing

[hasty wedge]

🤔

[ocean bramble]

@dawn pecan Mh maybe try to reduce the scene down to only the armature and the mesh first

[unreal bison]

im confuse af

[hasty wedge]

is the oculus hdmi connected to the gpu?

and usbs connected

[unreal bison]

yup

and the light is glowing on the headset

[meager solstice]

Yeah but is it directly in cuz mine has 2 plugs in the back and it would work with 1 of them

[hasty wedge]

open task manager and kill OVRserver_x64.exe and redo the setup

[dawn pecan]

There's meshes, armatures and some weird things which are used as constraints as well as some IK objects now. I deleted the stage and such.
This model is far from normal though. Just changing mode breaks the model (moving it below the ground), and it came with a 50 page PDF to explain what's even going on in the scene

[unreal bison]

still nothing fak

can i just start vrchat instead :v

[tepid scarab]

yo, does anyone know how to rebind keyboard keys?

The configuration window before starting the game doesn't seem to affect anything at all

[unreal bison]

I can't see anything on my oculus , everything is plugged in properly

[vocal shard]

https://support.oculus.com/214721512279715/

[brisk umbra]

i just got my oculus aswell all i am missing is a another port for my monitor which i should be getting tomorrow

[vocal shard]

hdmi to displayport or something like that ?

[brisk umbra]

well i only have one hdmi port so.. i should be getting a dvi or something so i can put my rift into the hdmi

[vocal shard]

what do your monitor use ? hdmi ?

[brisk umbra]

yep

[vocal shard]

nothing else ?

[brisk umbra]

it can use dvi

[vocal shard]

oof.

probably better to get a hdmi to displayport tbh

[dawn pecan]

Why is every shader awful?

[vocal shard]

?

[brisk umbra]

but i solved my issue anyways LMAO

[dawn pecan]

When I google to find shaders, it's random silly effects and not an attempt to make anything look good. I can't even find a shader which properly works with AO

[vocal shard]

AO ?

[brisk umbra]

what is Ao?

@vocal shard thanks for advice tbh we will see what the best option for a port is tomorrow morning

[dawn pecan]

Ambient occlusion

[brisk umbra]

wait is this for a world?

[dawn pecan]

I need it for an avatar

[brisk umbra]

ahhh

i would ask in the #avatars-2-general

[vocal shard]

try xiexe's shader

or poiymomi's

dunno if you can get something as good as proper AO

but you can get close enough

[dawn pecan]

I can choose between flat, constant color model (the toon shaders), or a shiny plastic looking model (Unity standard)

[vocal shard]

you need some texture to make it look good

can take a bit of work to get the intended effect

[dawn pecan]

I have the map and everything, I just don't have anything which actually supports it... I will see if poiymomi's has it, I don't think I've tried that before

[vocal shard]

xiexe is good too

i managed to make stuff looks really good with it

[dawn pecan]

I have textures, just not the right shaders. And I guess I will cehck xiexie too

[vocal shard]

typically metallic stuff is pretty nice

https://github.com/poiyomi/VRC-PoiyomiMasterToonShader
https://vrcat.club/threads/xiexes-toon-shader-v1-5-updated-11-1-2018-xstoon-the-big-boi-update.1878/

[dawn pecan]

My biggest problem is skin. It looks so amazing in blender renders

Thanks

[vocal shard]

xiexe have some example on what you can do

[brisk umbra]

when it comes to ambient on models yeah no

i can't do that yet

[unreal bison]

i didn't complete the set up and went to vrchat , it detects my headset movement but i cant see anything

[vocal shard]

you need to complete the setup

like

[dawn pecan]

In examples I've seen things like scroling colors or pulsating effects... I just want a bit more photorealism

[vocal shard]

it's not an option

[brisk umbra]

recently i have seen worlds looking realistic as fuck it's amazing

[vocal shard]

proper light can help that

pretty sure the people in #world-development can help you set that up

[dawn pecan]

poiyomi doesn't have a AO option. It might have another name as map though, no idea

[brisk umbra]

question is it easy to install steamvr on the oculus i heard it was but i need a confirmation

[dawn pecan]

I guess that I will need to add shaders to a world rather than an avatar if I want it to really look good. It could also be that Blender just looks better than Unity is able to

[safe prism]

it's one tick box, sniper.

[unreal bison]

@vocal shard but im stuck at the put on your headset and adjust the lens part

no video show ed up

[safe prism]

in the oculus app, open settings -> beta -> allow content from untrusted sources

[brisk umbra]

Ahhh

[safe prism]

then run steamvr, done!

[vocal shard]

did you check the link i sent @unreal bison ?

[slender ridge]

Easiest thing. Just install SteamVR in Steam. Then go to your Oculus settings in the Oculus software and allow unknown sources.

[brisk umbra]

then i will do that after i get my extra port and finish that setup

cheers guys

[unreal bison]

im trying

headset HDMI is connected but still no image

[brisk umbra]

is it connected in the headset?

[unreal bison]

yup..

[brisk umbra]

then use the link from earlier https://support.oculus.com/214721512279715/

[vocal shard]

if you did everything properly as told by that link

then your headset is fucked 🤷

[boreal plaza]

Is there a way or is it planned to be able to disable the sitting feature somehow? While using fbt i like to sit naturally on chairs/beds or whatever but most of them are seats which i often accidently use when touching the trigger for gestures

[brisk umbra]

kinda of curious where did you buy the headset? @unreal bison

[vocal shard]

there is a canny asking for that, oida

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/option-to-disable-seats-in-settings

under review currently

[boreal plaza]

Oh okay, thank you :D shame on me, i rarely look into there 😅

[unreal bison]

amazon

[vocal shard]

nobody does, so don't worry about it

[unreal bison]

both HDMI are used for my monitor and oculus and i dont have any adapter

[vocal shard]

so it's plugged into the GPU, correct ?

[unreal bison]

isn't both HDMI from the GPU?

[vocal shard]

some MOBO have hdmi ports

be sure to plug the monitor and rift on the GPU

[unreal bison]

I've tried my monitor on both of the HDMI and it works

[vocal shard]

but not the rift

[unreal bison]

yeah sadly

[vocal shard]

is it detected at least ?

[unreal bison]

when I tried to run vrchat it detects my headset movement but still doesn't show image. The screen turned white a bit and that's it

[brisk umbra]

did you finish the setup?

[unreal bison]

on the setup part it doesn't show me the video to complete the tutorial not even the sound while i can hear vrchat's sound before clicking GO

nope im stuck at the continue in vr but it shows nothing and there's no sound

no new tab popping out either

[vocal shard]

are all the drivers up to date ?

[unreal bison]

just updated my driver to the latest but it didn't help

[vocal shard]

be sure that the rift is plugged into the GPU

be sure to have all the latest drivers

restarts PC

try again

if it doesnt work then contact the oculus support

seems like a faulty rift if you did everything properly tbh

[brisk umbra]

i ordered from their website so..

[unreal bison]

fkkk

[brisk umbra]

it took 3 days to get where i live it's insane xD

[unreal bison]

it took me few weeks

to get it

[vocal shard]

3 days ?

that's fast

i usually wait at least 2 weeks for anything to arrive

[brisk umbra]

australian shipping from the oculus website was insane

gotta love my country sometimes

[vocal shard]

everything austrlian is insane tbh

the time it take

and especially the prices

so expensive

[umbral reef]

Well- Its not odd that delivery is expensive when even the birds want to kill you there

[brisk umbra]

fuck those magpies mate

[queen mango]

Even your landlord wants to kill you

Lul

[vocal shard]

yeah, let me just go on the beach and walk on the rockfish and get pain on my whole body for the rest of my life

seems good

[umbral reef]

But hey- Thats your punishment prisoner!

[vocal shard]

[unreal bison]

oh @vocal shard it seems like I only have 1HDMI connected to the gpu

but i tried using both of the HDMI with my rift and it still didn't display anything

[safe prism]

you have a monitor plugged in too, yeah?

same GPU

[vocal shard]

the rift needs to be plugged into the GPU

[unreal bison]

yeah but both of the HDMI are able to display my monitor

[umbral reef]

If you are lucky get an DisplayPort cable and plug that into the monitor and the HDMI into the rift

[gleaming patio]

rift will not display your monitor

[safe prism]

have you tried different USB ports

[unreal bison]

u mean usb 3pot?

port

[safe prism]

sometimes it can't get enough power or data rate, both will mess with the rift

[gleaming patio]

the rift is recognized in a different way by the gpu drivers, as a display not meant to display just monitor contents

[safe prism]

you guys are focussing on weird words lol

[unreal bison]

im confuse and dumb 😓

[safe prism]

give it it's own USB 3.0 or 3.1 port, don't let anything be next to it

[brisk umbra]

luckily i am getting a new port tomorrow morning so i should be able to go into vrchat with my oculus tomorrow

[unreal bison]

i have like everything else below the HDMI im using for the rift

mouse/sensors/wifi modem plug below it

[ruby needle]

Is it connected to a native hdmi port?

(no adapters)

[errant merlin]

I’ve got three monitors, and when I launch anything within the Vive, one of my screens always goes black for a few seconds

[unreal bison]

im not using any adapter i think

[ruby needle]

You think?

[unreal bison]

it says headset connected tho on the app

[errant merlin]

lol

[unreal bison]

i rly have no idea

[ruby needle]

It it plugged into a hdmi slots directly on the back of the graphics card

[hasty wedge]

have u restarted ur pc

[ruby needle]

Without anything in between

[errant merlin]

How do you not know if you went out of your way to purchase an adapter dongle?

[unreal bison]

i've restarted when i downloaded the latest graphic driver

[ruby needle]

He send me a picture and it's direct plugged tho

You only have the rift on your gpu not your main monitor.

You need to plug into the main monitor to the gpu as well

Tho you should at least be able to do the setup with that

[unreal bison]

huh? but my monitor is showing tho

[ruby needle]

Doesn't matter

It needed to be on the same gpu

Plugging it to your igpu makes zero sense and willing throttle a lot

[unreal bison]

So I need to get another adapter to connect my monitor so it can be connected tgt with the rift?

[ruby needle]

Yes

At least the main monitor plus the rift needs to be on the main gpu

[unreal bison]

oh

[ruby needle]

Even if you want as much as possible on it

It's not just that you used the connector of your board

[unreal bison]

so right now the problem is that my rift is on gpu but monitor is on other port even tho it still desplay my monitor but it wont display anything on rift.

?

[ruby needle]

But that makes it use the internal graphics

You should still be able to do the oculus setup usually tho

Steam vr should be the one yelling at you later

[quartz basin]

Everyone should yell at you. Why would you use the iGPU when you have a GPU?

[ruby needle]

For not knowledgeable persons it can make sense

It's a graphics port

That's all that matters

So many don't realize

[quartz basin]

In todays day and age of information it should be easy to look it up.

[unreal bison]

after i get a adapter for it i just plug it next to the gpu port?

[ruby needle]

Yes

[unreal bison]

can u give me the name of the adapter i need to get cuz im a dumbfk

[ruby needle]

Depends on your card and monitor

[unreal bison]

:/

[ruby needle]

There is VGA, DVI, HDMI, DISPLAY PORT, MINI DISPLAY PORT

Google and see which is yours and needs to become which

[unreal bison]

1060 nvidia 6gb

[quartz basin]

Different brands use different kinds and amount of ports.

[shy nest]

imagine buying a vr headset and not knowing anything about computers

140iq purchase

[unreal bison]

me in a nutshell

[vocal shard]

some people doesnt care about any of that

they just want the games or experience

and nothing also

that why you have no-brainer VR ready PC

just buy it along with a VR headset

plug it properly

and you are good to go

[unreal bison]

oh i need vga

[quartz basin]

Lol, what?!

Does your monitor only have a VGA port?

[unreal bison]

vegene and bob to connect jk my friend told me since he helped me to set up stuff before that i need vga

[quartz basin]

Hold up. For what do you need that?

You still have a monitor from 10 years ago?

[unreal bison]

vga to display port?

since my GPU only has 1HDMI

[quartz basin]

Yes, 1 HDMI and probably 3 Display Ports.

My question is, what ports is your monitor using.

[ruby needle]

Your Monitor will either have a DVI or hdmi port. You should get a new montor cable that's fitting insted of a VGA adapter

[unreal bison]

my monitor is HDMI

[ruby needle]

Get a hdmi cable and either a DVI to hdmi or display port to hdmi adapter

It will make your picture (specifically colors) better

[unreal bison]

oh i thought only vga works

[quartz basin]

No idea what yoU're on about with VGA but that's such an old standard that no one uses this anymore.

[unreal bison]

lul

oh wait.. my monitor isn't HDMI , i'm using HDMI adapter for it

[civic plume]

Night all 💜

[unreal bison]

goodnight

[queen mango]

Goodnight, Monty

[rough flax]

It's been dead in here for 3 hours

[mortal girder]

i thought i sent a message. either someone deleted it or it didnt send 🤔

[ruby needle]

i wonder what happened

[vocal shard]

a true mystery

[halcyon kestrel]

Vrchat good social game

Met a lot of good people

One thing I dislike is the Reddit design

And crashers

[vocal shard]

i love crashers

i love having to lose 20 seconds of my life to restart the game

who wouldnt enjoy that

[signal wren]

Most crashers are in the lag free box room

You don't need to block there avatar just turn on animations and particals

and shaders

turn off*

That's there own fault then lol

I always have everyone blocked dosent mean there voice changes

You were just talking about crashers

[worldly comet]

well, the fact that you have to go around with everyone blocked when you visit public worlds is a problem that needs to be resolved.

[signal wren]

I was pointing at crashers

I'll talk later since you're too angry to even have a civil convo stick to one thing my dude. I was talking about crashers this whole time.

[worldly comet]

well, having crashers blocked is a given, but you don't necessarily know who they are prior to them crashing you or them for some reason telling you they are crashing people.

[signal wren]

Your talking about a whole lot of other things and yeah I'm sure the admins know that this problem exists but as right now they could only implement something like this

just not too long ago

so of course it needs improvement

but it's far better then what it was

with out the safety settings.

[worldly comet]

of course it's a step in the right direction, but it's basically a bandaid

[signal wren]

Your talking about a new system that was just put in like 2 months ago

got to remember no ones getting paid to mod

it's a free game with crappy services .

Yes

it dos not exist.

1 million

not millions

[hasty wedge]

４，０００，０００

[vocal shard]

give me source of that millions of funding please

[signal wren]

It was not 4 million

it was 1million

by a company

[hasty wedge]

https://uploadvr.com/vrchat-raises-4-million-round-led-htc/

[signal wren]

that wanted them to develop more.

[hasty wedge]

ok back to fapping

later my dearest nakahamas

gonna crash some plebs

[signal wren]

The company stands at 16 people today, many hired “directly through the VRChat community.” There is no office. They meet in VRChat and work remotely using Slack and Discord.

16

is not a lot

[vocal shard]

pretty sure they are more now

[signal wren]

I doubt it

[floral aspen]

I think they are a little over 20 now

Still very much an indie team tho

[signal wren]

Yeah

[floral aspen]

The reason this game is as popular as it is is because of memes and the fact that it's free

[vocal shard]

on their website they are searching for a security netowrk guy

[signal wren]

The broken SDK will never get fixed

because Unity needs to see the files

to be able to put in avatars

[hasty wedge]

i say we block desktoppers from playing

[floral aspen]

never say never

[hasty wedge]

[floral aspen]

desktoppers are also why this game is as popular as it is

[hasty wedge]

im racist to them tho

get them out of this

[signal wren]

I started out as someone who used a desktop.

now I use a vive.

[median basalt]

Lol, the safety settings are a bit of a joke

Particle limiter disabling PlayerLocal collision blocked 99% of crashers

[signal wren]

lol and I'v created countless avatars lol with out them being crachers.

[floral aspen]

The SDK just needs to be obfuscated is all. It's very easy to tell what does what if you have even a basic understanding of code

[median basalt]

All it really does is limit avatar creators

I don't think the SDK needs to be obfuscated at all

What would that solve?

[worldly comet]

having a paywall on top of the trust system for uploading custom stuff (even a small one) would probably get rid of the crashers

[median basalt]

@floral aspen

@worldly comet no, it would make them worse.

[worldly comet]

how so?

[signal wren]

it would make it worse

you don't think someone will pay 10bucks or less to make avatars and be the onlyone that gets to crash

[median basalt]

You would get groups like autismo gang pooling their money and uploading a few crash avatars to a singular account, then putting those avatars in a private world. Meanwhile, creators like me are blocked out until we cough up the money.

Or yeah, what she* said

[signal wren]

she

[worldly comet]

10 bucks to crash and once they get banned they have to not only have to get their trust rank bank they also have to pay again

no, don't think so

[median basalt]

You don't seem to get my point

[signal wren]

Who was the last time someone gets banned

like it takes forever

you need a lot of proof

[median basalt]

Re-read my messages.

[signal wren]

you need a 2min vid

[median basalt]

A gang of 100 people could share one account

And upload a crasher onto it

Each person pays literally 2 cents and that comes down to $20

[signal wren]

You can not and will not ever stop someone who is going to do what they want

[worldly comet]

could make it so people who don't pay can't use avatars from private worlds then

[median basalt]

Or as @signal wren said, getting a crasher banned is pretty hard. You underestimate how much people are willing to pay

@vocal shard they make a new one

[signal wren]

VPN

going to say it before you say it

[median basalt]

People already pay for cheats, you don't think they will pay for upload privileges?

[golden lintel]

We just need server side checks on the SDK tbh

[signal wren]

it's easy to use VPN and it's easy to get pass a IP block

[median basalt]

@vocal shard 2 cents a week is nothing to them

@golden lintel there already are, that isn't the issue

There's clientside checks when avatars are loaded, ensuring that you can't use non-whitelisted components.

There's clientside checks to enforce the trust system limits you put in place, as well as particle and audio limits.

Just use markdown. Quoting is hard

[worldly comet]

en capsulate it in 3 `

[median basalt]

I don't think Discord has quotes

[sterile drift]

Paste code? uhh

You mean like this?

Or like this?

[worldly comet]

3 `

[median basalt]

Three tildes

[worldly comet]

on each side

[median basalt]

Code

Three tildes again

[sterile drift]

A tilde is this Rokk

~

[median basalt]

My bad

A grave mistake.

[sterile drift]

G R A V E

But yea it's on the same key

So not really that bad

[median basalt]

if avatar == crashy then
    dont()
end

It's not that easy people

[sterile drift]

HAHAHAH

Wait you can incorporate rich text in those?

I didn't know that

[median basalt]

Yeah

Well, not really

It's actually better than that

After the three `

Type the language name and then begin your code

Supports a lot of languages, I chose Lua up there

[sterile drift]

Huh

[signal wren]

lol

[median basalt]

@vocal shard what you described is literally the trust system

What's the difference exactly?

[floral aspen]

@median basalt I thought about it some more and obfuscating the SDK would make the limits harder to bypass in the short term but I realized I was underestimating how far people will go to break something. They'd figure it out eventually and then we're right back where we started.

[median basalt]

Yep

The most effective is serverside checks or on-load checks

Like the camera removal

[signal wren]

yes

the best is everything be serverside but VRchat is not run on a dedicated server

It's P2P

[sterile drift]

Camera removal lul

Just put it on the Trust system

Done 👏

[worldly comet]

you already have "points", that's how you rank up in the trust system

[signal wren]

but

[floral aspen]

The avatars and worlds are stored on a dedicated server, so have the checks run on those servers when you can upload

[signal wren]

As someone that makes models and dos stuff that way i'm all ready purple and the crashers are getting purple as well

[median basalt]

We do need to move cameras to the trust system, it's weird that they haven't done so yet.

[signal wren]

who don't even deserve it

so the ranking system needs work

[median basalt]

I know a model stealer who was veteran in the beta

[floral aspen]

weird yes, but the trust system is also unfinished

[signal wren]

because it's allowing them to seem like they are good when they are a crasher.

[floral aspen]

just like everything else in this game

[vocal shard]

most crashers i know are trusted

[worldly comet]

FireEmber, that's why I said trust system (while good) is not enough

[vocal shard]

so 🤷

[signal wren]

Someone I use to know got purple and he only made crasher avatars

[golden lintel]

Trust system does like nothing. I've seen purples that abuse it sadly. Plus selling purple accounts is a thing people will do if they aren't already

[signal wren]

I wasent happy about that

[worldly comet]

I'm purple as well, though I've only seen crashers with ranks up to known user so far, it's still bad enough

[signal wren]

I'v seen them with purple.

[hasty wedge]

ive seen a veteran

[signal wren]

I'v seem bad folk with purple doing stupid crap who dont even deserve it.

Veterans don't exist

they removed that

[floral aspen]

At least you can customize the trust system to block all effects for non-friends

[hasty wedge]

but ive seen one tho

[vocal shard]

@hasty wedge you don't exist apparently

[hasty wedge]

[signal wren]

you do not exist in my eyes

[hasty wedge]

tfw just a trusted crasher now

[vocal shard]

[hasty wedge]

no longer can fully trick ppl into thinking innocent

[signal wren]

👌

[median basalt]

I got network crashed a small time ago, trust system does jack against that

[vocal shard]

make them trust you with the trusted rank and when they get close to you, stab them with the shader crash

[median basalt]

Some of my avatars break hard with shaders blocked

Toon shaders look bad unless they have a toon ramp property

[vocal shard]

i decided to not care about that

[sterile drift]

True Rokk

[vocal shard]

if epople want to look at ugly piece of plastics

[sterile drift]

I love toon ramps

[vocal shard]

that's on them

[sterile drift]

I think you can tell that with my shadow ramp that I won't shut up about LOL

[hasty wedge]

hi guys im a chad trusted with a TDA edit took 5 hours btw haha cant risk having my model stolen and scared of crashers too btw lol

[sterile drift]

L O L

[hasty wedge]

only trusted have shaders on

haha !

[median basalt]

@sterile drift yeah lol

I do actually have an edit of a TDA edit

[hasty wedge]

INTO THE CRASH LIST

[median basalt]

No pls

[vocal shard]

yoinked and uploaded to that website

sorry buddy had to do it to em

[sterile drift]

I feel some people use the trust system in some kind of weird thing

[golden lintel]

That's it buddy

[vocal shard]

👉 one month

[sterile drift]

I can only explain it by saying it's in reverse but kinda not. I'm thinking of is they have some kind of ramp that goes up but then drops off.

[worldly comet]

well, I turn off shaders and particles for everyone except friends when I go into public worlds and only enable it for those I feel can be trusted

[sterile drift]

Think of someone blocking features from visitors and new users but then trust Users and Known users

[worldly comet]

oh and animations

[sterile drift]

But then turn stuff off on Trusted

Sure I see where they're coming from but they're overgeneralizing trusted users in that sense

[worldly comet]

err ok, what's the point of that?

[golden lintel]

I just leave my stuff on normal settings in publics and none in friends+ or higher haven't had problems yet

[sterile drift]

lol

[golden lintel]

But I also have particle limiter so yeah

[sterile drift]

@worldly comet People saying that "trusted users are just crashers" or w/e

[vocal shard]

i only have a particle limiter

i dont use the safety system

[worldly comet]

mmk, well, if they wanna do that then fine

[signal wren]

My avatars have stopped getting stolen after I put a glowing texture inside and outside of the body

on the main texture it's self

[vocal shard]

got crashed only one time 2 or 3 days ago

and it was a network crash

[signal wren]

so My name glows in the dark

lol

[vocal shard]

so the safety system wouldnt help in that case

[sterile drift]

Funny thing is I never got crashed ever since the Trust System was introduced

[signal wren]

The particle limiter never worked for me

[golden lintel]

Haven't seen a network one yet

[signal wren]

I don't know what the hell to set it on

[sterile drift]

except for a friend of mine but I don't count that

[hasty wedge]

1 on everything Kappa

[sterile drift]

It was yesterday too

lmao

[vocal shard]

@signal wren whatever you want

[signal wren]

I use to get crashed none stop

[vocal shard]

you can use big numbers, it doesnt matter

[signal wren]

but with the safty system the only resone I have everyone blocked is not because of crashers

[sterile drift]

Every other crash for me was just VRChat being VRChat, not someone's avatar.

[vocal shard]

the particle limiter will remove "playerLocal" collision layer

[signal wren]

I'm epileptics

[vocal shard]

so the basic particle crash will not work

[signal wren]

Yes but they got smart

they are no longer useing the old way to crash

they do it a diffrent way now

that bypasses that

[golden lintel]

Most the time I crash it's because my computers a potato with a 750ti and an old i5 processor running vr

[signal wren]

I crash only because my pc gets to hot i have a 960 i5

THe problem I'm seeing as of right now

is when ever I click meirrors

it crashes my game

[vocal shard]

wheyheyhey

[signal wren]

that was after the newist update

[vocal shard]

Mirrors don't crash my game

[golden lintel]

Mirrors are lag bombs

[vocal shard]

They work perfectly

[signal wren]

It dos for me

again I have a 960

and a i5

i never use to crash untill this newist update

[vocal shard]

1070 ti fTW 2 here

[signal wren]

I use to be able to play on 80% ress

[golden lintel]

I drop 10 fps at every mirror but then again I have the most potato comp running this game in vr

[vocal shard]

16gb of ram

i5 7600k

[signal wren]

now I need to put it down to 60

[vocal shard]

No issue in VR

[signal wren]

i have 32GB's of ram @_@;

I have a asus

[golden lintel]

That's a lots ram

[signal wren]

witch runs hot

[vocal shard]

Underpowered GPU

@signal wren they dont, i assure you

Compared to the RAM you got

[signal wren]

My motherbored is a asus

its a shit bored

and 4 years old

[vocal shard]

people that have more advanced crash doesnt use them in random public worlds

[signal wren]

I need to update it before i can update to i7

I have no idea what you are talking about my dude.

[vocal shard]

Svelstein has been here for a long while

[signal wren]

I'v been getting logged out a lot

[vocal shard]

I would listen to him

that's not a crash

[signal wren]

no thats a hacked clicent

client

I'v been here since the start

[vocal shard]

it's an exploit that got shared around those last weeks

[signal wren]

so I think I know

no

It's been around a long time

[sterile drift]

Logout exploit

[vocal shard]

it's another one

@sterile drift I was gonna send you ASCII memes

But i'll send you me

[sterile drift]

lOL

[vocal shard]

it was fixed, they found a new one, fixed again and now there's another one 🤷

i have a bunch of them stored in my hard drive LUL

[signal wren]

Yeah I know lol so I never touch the accept or what ever

lol

[sterile drift]

Kindbot, this is like

Gonna be a train

I guarantee it

[signal wren]

I'v been a member in vrchat since 2017 seen a lot of shit happen and i'm amazed that hackers put so much effort in to wanting just to make a simple game so unpleasant. it's honestly a power trip thing.

[vocal shard]

because you get like 5-6 people that knows how to make clients

and then they share them

and script kiddies just use them

[signal wren]

Ah the lovely script kiddies.

[vocal shard]

you don't need much more to have them everywhere

[signal wren]

Yeah I think they should of like uh whats it called like a game guard?

but something better

way better

lol

[golden lintel]

They cant get attention by making something good so they crash instead. At least the ones that crash publics anyways

[vocal shard]

i'm pretty sure it's in the work

they can't just ignore that problem permanently

but they can't do much currently

[golden lintel]

Or have crazy anger issues

[signal wren]

there was this girl who tried to crash me because I told her to go away lol and she tried to crash me and was like oh woops sorry how did you crash and I laughed at her and said next time you try to crash someone don't forget about the safety settings.

[vocal shard]

script kiddies?

I call em skids

[signal wren]

she sounded like a brat.

who was gifted a avatar

[vocal shard]

Since they don't deserve to be called the full thing

[umbral reef]

@signal wrenyou reported the person right?

[signal wren]

she left right after

[golden lintel]

Skid marks

[signal wren]

was too late

[vocal shard]

without proof he cant really report

Yea, did you report the asshole?

[signal wren]

she*

[vocal shard]

Awwwwwwwwww

[signal wren]

and no I need a 2 min video

2mins is a lot like really

lol

[vocal shard]

I just mute any annoying steam user I find

it's not 2 minutes

even tho it said so

[golden lintel]

I have shadowplay always running incase I have to record something like that

[vocal shard]

if you have enough contect

30 seconds is enough

[signal wren]

I'v tried before.

[vocal shard]

I have SLOBS ready

[umbral reef]

@golden lintel same

[vocal shard]

If I need to, I press record

[signal wren]

well I dident expect to have a child try to crash me randomly in the pug

[vocal shard]

Gimme a PogU @umbral reef

[signal wren]

but if you see a large clock on a stick

those are crasher sticks

It kinda looks like the afk model but with out it's legs and put on a hand stick instead

but has a face like a clock

seeinga lot have them

[vocal shard]

probably a shared prefab

Like a grandfather clock?

[signal wren]

yeah

[vocal shard]

or a wall clock

WHich one

[signal wren]

I don't know there are meany makes of grandfather clocks

LOL

jk

idk

[vocal shard]

Wall clock = round and generic

Grandfather clock = grandfather clock

Idc about exact make and model

[signal wren]

it was l ike a grandfather clock set

[vocal shard]

Aighty aighty

[signal wren]

iv had a grandfather clock so yeah

[vocal shard]

A hand stick?

[signal wren]

nope

oh

[vocal shard]

What's that

A hand for legs?

[signal wren]

I thought you were talking about the swaying hand

they ahve the head part there just has the outter body of the AFK model

but with no legs

you do know the AFK model right?

the generic one.

[vocal shard]

yes

[signal wren]

from vrchat it's self

[vocal shard]

me no idiot

[signal wren]

its like that

[vocal shard]

ME NO IDIOT

[signal wren]

wasent calling you one

[cold talon]

Stop calling him an idiot

[signal wren]

I can't hold all these idiots in my hands.

👌

[vocal shard]

I can't hold all these motherfkin crashers

In this motherfkin plane

[umbral reef]

I got heard idiots got summoned?
Sorry that I'm late, could not find the way to here so...

[quiet kraken]

One question, vrc mods are working on a easy way to change your name?

[ruby needle]

you might wanna word that differently...
but yes, a name change system is comming up (and i think already was but had to be taken down again due to bugs)

[vocal shard]

It'll go back up someday™

[ivory folio]

a matter of weeks and not months? 👀

[spare moon]

Rest in peace stan lee😭

[ruby needle]

no hotkey i think

what's the issue?

if you're stuck in a broken avatar that causes issues you can launch with this

https://vrchat.com/launch?worldId=wrld_f628a674-4f98-470f-afc2-b37d3cbcbd06

starting the tutorial map makes you the default

[hasty wedge]

ctrl \

[vocal shard]

...

[winged quartz]

uhh

my vrchat's sound is very low

I reopened it, reinstalled and shit

still low

what should I do

cleaning the cookies didn't do shit

[vocal shard]

Go to Volume Mixer and see if the volume was turned down in there @winged quartz

[winged quartz]

nope

[vocal shard]

Also check your VRChat settings

[winged quartz]

also nope

[ruby needle]

do the steps in #vrchat-support to start out fresh

after that, and if the windows and HMD audio mixers are turned up, then... hmm

[winged quartz]

I'll try it @ruby needle

[vocal shard]

Can we get an F for respect

[empty wharf]

F

[vocal shard]

Why has no one else said f

Bois Stan Lee died

[covert linden]

Why f

[spare moon]

F is a Twitch thing

[languid beacon]

From “Press F to pay respects” meme in some game

[queen mango]

COD: Advanced Warfare

[languid beacon]

He lived a full life to 95 and got to see his life work explode in a new wave of popularity the last decade of his life

This is for random chat so this is all I’ll say.. Infinity war part 2’s gonna be sad not having him in it

[vocal shard]

He is still gonna be in the next 4 movies

They pre record his scenes

I hope atleast

[languid beacon]

So knuckles don’t really look THAT impressive 🤔

The controller not the dead meme

They seem to be the same as touch controllers? Not actually tracking fingers?

[ruby needle]

they are a bit more advanced then what the touch does basically

[rough pulsar]

Yeah, it definitely does more then the oculus touch controllers do.

Also I hear there's further refinements (both hardware, firmware & software) with regards to finger tracking.

@languid beacon https://youtu.be/IVQOcx2aM0g?t=295
In case it doesn't start at the right time, skip to 4:55
Clearly shows the finger tracking capability. And this is the EV2 models, devs currently have the EV3s.

[languid beacon]

I think for VRChat though it’s just gonna detect which of the 8 default gestures you are doing. Which makes sense for triggering AO animations but seems like a bit of a waste. Not complaining though

I guess if we get full finger articulation it will still have to estimate which of the 8 “standard” hand poses you are doing so you can still trigger stuff

[tacit plank]

My flat lit toon just broke somehow...
Shader error in 'CubedParadox/Flat Lit Toon': invalid subscript '_ShadowCoord' at line 147 (on d3d11)

[languid beacon]

Delete and reimport?

[rough pulsar]

@languid beacon There's a little video on twitter of an early implementation in vrchat, which is just gesture detection rather than individual finger control.
From what I understand, getting individual finger control a few things would need to be reworked quite a bit.

[tacit plank]

The second I imported another shader (without overwriting) my pink objects turned back into how they're suppose to look. The error is still in the console though

[languid beacon]

Yeah. I think gesture detection is a given and nice to see that work has been done already. But I hope we get full finger articulation on top of the detection because I mean. I feel like people are expecting that

Like I feel the disappointment happening

[rough pulsar]

If they didn't I feel there'd be enough pressure from the userbase that they'd kinda have to.