vrchat-general-2

[compact river]

or something

[vocal shard]

Yeah its breaking on creating a new avatar

even made a new unity project and imported everything from scratch

feck.

[compact river]

whats breaking?

just the sdk or the upload button

[vocal shard]

after i press build it goes through its motions then these errors show up

second. I forgot we cant directly post images here

[compact river]

[vocal shard]

Basically it says Api Avatar and a long string then not found.

I deleted and unbound the pipeline manager so I know thats not the issue

welp. time to reinstall unity i guess

[compact river]

nop

that almost never helps

did you remove and readd the descriptor just to test?

[vocal shard]

yeah did that, blew out sdk completely, cleared reg keys everything.

So I uninstalled unity and blew out every single programdata / regkey / local /roaming / locallow folder I found.

and erased all traces of VRC sdks

[vocal shard]

@compact river fixed

[compact river]

i was looking into "Api Avatar" thing but did not find much

[vocal shard]

apparently its normal. It's still appearing in the logs but the process keeps going now.

It was hanging at creating new avatar. like it couldn't find the path to the amazoncloud drive that we upload to

[scenic briar]

if you can fix these fingers for me ill accept you into my heart as my god. and prey to you at night. message me.

no pictures here never mind

[queen mango]

Uhh... yes..

[true sky]

@strange stag yes

[subtle prawn]

[junior root]

Good evoring

I actually need to really start exploring more to find more avatars

[broken shuttle]

Perhaps try creating your own?

[sweet meadow]

https://gyazo.com/5f05c4f108275f7a89159bfba1c35237 someone knows how to fix this?

[shy nest]

are you dragging something from a zip?

[sweet meadow]

i guess i just had no diskspace lmao

[umbral reef]

Just download more diskspace

[north axle]

How do you fight boredom in VRC?

[vocal shard]

find a good group to interact with
make some fun animations in unity to show to people

[umbral reef]

I guess you can just particle crash it?

[north axle]

Doesn't sound like fun.

[umbral reef]

Stream some stuff? Go explore worlds?

Also, as its almost 1 am and i have not eaten yet today- Ima be eating so

[north axle]

Most worlds are repeating other works. We get only one nice work that seems unique every month.

[honest depot]

Can someone make me a list for what i need to get Vive trackers with my Oculus Setup?

[vocal shard]

money

lots of it

[honest depot]

i know

[vocal shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/8f7c0o/oculus_touch_x_vive_trackers_guide/

[honest depot]

Thanks

[hollow sluice]

i noticed that these crasher script people go around in "gangs" or "clans" and talk about crasher other clans or gangs

mainly the ones with the big ban hammers and guns but its so weird they do this "gang" stuff

[vocal shard]

they are kids that doesnt know the difference between virtual and reality

it's just a game

crashing is a 20 seconds annoyance

but a ban is a bit longer than that.

[hollow sluice]

its cringey they use the term clapping instead of crashing

[vocal shard]

no

[umbral nova]

Eh I mean I would too if I was part of one. It's stupid enough to say that it fits

I don't cringe whenever I hear them say "clap"

[keen cairn]

VRchat is a social platform filled with people..... It may be virtual, but the people are very much still people. There will always be a proportionate population lacking empathy, consideration or even basic human decency.

Not much different from reality after all.....

[umbral nova]

Can I put my thought on that idea that Eli just brung up?

I just thought of this, sure, there are people who are jerks in VRChat, but there's a fine line between just being a general jerk and actually being a bad person, at least when it comes to what's considered ban-worthy or generally punishable

Sad truth

But you can't get around it I guess unless a huge mass of people complain

[icy otter]

Is it safe to link my steam account to my vrchat account without loosing trust rank?

[umbral nova]

@icy otter Should be pretty good now, go ahead.

[icy otter]

ok thanks

where can i get the steam link token

[umbral nova]

O h

That I don't know

I never linked mine since it's like

1 month against 10

🙃

You can ask someone else though

[north axle]

New world idea: after you have a drink, you black out, switch to a random avatar and get teleported to a random world.

[umbral nova]

Sounds good lol

But what if you turn into VRPill's avatar?

[north axle]

It's got to be on a list of avatars submitted by users.

[umbral nova]

Well that's good too

But the random world thing?

[north axle]

That's easy too. You just need a list of world IDs.

[umbral nova]

So would it be like popular maps or more trippy/psychedelic worlds?

[north axle]

You can check out my world for example.
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_800e9f29-d2d7-405e-84cc-382e353215f8

Depends on the creator's approach.

[north axle]

Name your top 3 favorite features VRChat added within the last year.

Home world, hiding individual avatars, T&S system.

[gleaming patio]

favoriting avatars so you can take them with you

or hell didnt they add keeping avatars you didnt upload over restarts even

that was this year, right

[still lark]

Yeah

[umbral nova]

Favoriting world avatars, seats on avatars Private/Public avatars, and custom animators and the Trust System

[hard trellis]

is it anyone more then me that has issues with insane long loading times?

insane as in 10+ mins per world switch?

[hollow sluice]

Wait wtf how do i sit on people lol

[still lark]

3 isn't enough for this year.

[north axle]

Then name 3 things you disliked about VRChat this year the most.

Uganda, removal of web panels, no custom scripting.

[inner vale]

Uganda made me want the game, though. ^^

[gleaming patio]

trust system could be on both lists

i like it in principle but i am too shitty at socializing to even get to known

[sterile drift]

For me I see nothing but good in the Trust System, though I am on the biased side since I was on the highest rank to begin with, even in the Beta, for some reason I had Veteran.

Not in the fact that I like being the rank

But the fact that people will very likely see the features of my avatar

[north axle]

Custom particles and animations ruined public VRChat. There's nothing bad about blocking strangers.

[sterile drift]

Yea and if people block me that's on them

I don't really care

[gleaming patio]

somehow that really resonates

[median basalt]

@north axle pretty sure the features you mentioned are the only ones lmao

In the meantime they removed a bunch of stuff

[gleaming patio]

"ive always had the highest rank so i'm completely favorable towards it"

[median basalt]

I'm the highest rank and I think the trust system is an atrocity

I know someone else in here who basically said "your opinion isn't valid unless you're veteran"

[sterile drift]

I'm almost to 100 people blocking me

[gleaming patio]

how do you know who blocks you

[median basalt]

There's a utility on some website that we apparently can't link here (which is BS IMO)

And it tells you who blocked you

Using the VRC API

[sterile drift]

I'm ready to hit the big triple digits

yuH

At 98 rn

[still lark]

Need some help Eevee? 😉

[median basalt]

I'm only at 15

[sterile drift]

LOL

I mean if you want Scruffy, but what did I do to you?

[median basalt]

No one of importance has me blocked, only one particular friend of a friend

The rest is mostly steam users

[sterile drift]

I mean I probably deserved only 3 of the blocks

The rest of the 95 were random people who just didn't like my personality for whatever reason

[still lark]

As a veteran I deserve none of the blocks that I have received!

[sterile drift]

lOL

I mean

I'm not really that big of a jerk

[gleaming patio]

at least an rough estimate on how many people are blocking you in general would maybe be appropriate

[inner vale]

I'm new, but I'm sure I've been blocked already due to my choice of avatar. ^^ Too many furry/Pokemon haters, lol.

[sterile drift]

I was blocked by one person because I have an intro sound on my avatars LMAO

[gleaming patio]

no number, just a danger level of sorts, in game

[median basalt]

I don't hate furries right off the bat, I know some people who do

[sterile drift]

@inner vale Hm

[gleaming patio]

that tells you if you are being annoying or not

[median basalt]

But there is definitely a uh

Air

Around the furry community

[sterile drift]

Yea there really is

[gleaming patio]

mostly sweat filled

[sterile drift]

And the air is... somewhat justified

But like

[gleaming patio]

lol

[median basalt]

Lol

[still lark]

I've gotten used to some of the furries.

[sterile drift]

There are still a lot of cool ones

[median basalt]

Yeah, which is why I don't dismiss them right off the bat

I know GV usually does, lol

[sterile drift]

Yea

Shark tail

[still lark]

And Eevee, Intro stuff is so annoying though!

[sterile drift]

I mean like

I just joined a world

That's all that happened

And they just blocked me

They just outright told me "Alright that's a block"

Like hellO?

I mean like I try to keep intro sounds to like jingles, and occasionally quotes

And then have much longer stuff on animations

[median basalt]

Oh yeah, people can have pretty kneejerk reactions to small intro sounds

Yours don't really annoy me

But I joined Jawbones yesterday and

Jeez

[sterile drift]

LOL

[median basalt]

Some girl putting on a "sexy" loli voice and saying "ATTENTION, a member of the Toucan gang has joined the world! Please hide your loops!"

[sterile drift]

HAHAHAA

[median basalt]

Mapwide

[vocal shard]

hmm

i got blocked by only 61 people

i'm surprised

[median basalt]

How will I ever live this down? I got blocked by some guy named GAY IS WRONG.

[still lark]

I get blocked for flying. :(

[opaque hawk]

@median basalt visited your avatar world last night. It was very nice, a very good world in comparison to any category of worlds.

[sterile drift]

"GAY IS WRONG"

[median basalt]

Oh yeah, when you fly people assume you're a hacker

[umbral reef]

@median basalt Become gay

[median basalt]

@opaque hawk ah, thanks man!

Good to hear

[sterile drift]

I don't think I've ever been blocked for flying actually

[median basalt]

I finished the rework yesterday

[vocal shard]

i wonder if people blocked me because i fly around

[sterile drift]

Although I think I fly way too fast for people to actually spot me

[still lark]

I've been blocked at least 5 times for flying

[median basalt]

@sterile drift Carkidd nearly blocked you in Octuplex's chibi robo world though

Because you clipped through the wall due to speed

[vocal shard]

i got blocked by Rhos

[sterile drift]

LOL

[still lark]

Svel, that's a plus. lmao

[sterile drift]

It's interesting to see maps from the outside

[vocal shard]

imagine that a fucking script kiddie, that crashed stole and ripped models blocked me

[sterile drift]

I'd imagine it actually did happen Svel

Now that you say it

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Ow snap- Time to also block you then if your that bad :%)

[opaque hawk]

Kept my mic muted in public worlds yesterday due to the fires. Running my air filter hard, lots of background noise. Didn’t want to get blocked or kicked

[vocal shard]

i upgraded my hat

[median basalt]

Thankfully blocks are less likely now with avatar blocking

[sterile drift]

I don't think the normies know that

I've still been blocked because of my avatar

Muted even

[still lark]

Unsure about that, people are still block heavy.

[opaque hawk]

@sterile drift because of the sounds?

[sterile drift]

Probably lmao

It's not even like loud either

It's just

Normal sounds

[median basalt]

Yeah, it's not loud or obnoxious at all

You can't even hear the sounds if anyone is speaking

And it lasts one second or so

[sterile drift]

I mean like if it isn't the intro sound

It's probably other sounds

But the loud ones I keep between friends

[median basalt]

That default dance lmao

[still lark]

I have an avatar that plays the Pug Music map wide. 😉

[sterile drift]

C L A P

[still lark]

It's also a remake of a pug stool.

[median basalt]

Map wide? Boy, is that disregard for the audio source limits??

[opaque hawk]

I like my music like I like my sprite art. 2D

[still lark]

I bypassed the heck out of those limits

It's also 2D audio, so it's good.

[rough flax]

monkaS

[tacit plank]

If you mess with the SDK limitations, at least be considerate with volume. People don't play at 20% volume because they want that to be the standard, they play with 20% volume because they don't want to hear your shit (while still being able to tell if somebody is playing sounds)

[median basalt]

Lmao, 2D? That's a new one

Haven't figured that one out yet

I could have used that for my halloween avatar lol

[still lark]

It's magic as far as I know.

[rough flax]

Some animations are funny though. 100% volume, sceeen shake, screen blur, screen zoom.

[median basalt]

Oh yeah, those are definitely the best

[still lark]

Are you saying it's funny because you're the one doing it? lol

[tacit plank]

"Funny"

[still lark]

(He has an emote that does all of what he just said)

[tacit plank]

They think they're cool for doing it, but don't realize that it's so easy that anyone can... It's just that most people aren't assholes

[still lark]

It's hard to get audio right because of the major differences between Unity and in game.

[tacit plank]

If you're adding 20dB gain, you're likely doing it wrong

[still lark]

Using dBs when most things are 0.0 to 1.0?

[rough flax]

No I don't @still lark

[tacit plank]

There's a 0.0 to 1.0 master, but you can add gain too. The master is also capped at 0.9 I believe? 0.5 in some older SDK versions

[still lark]

I don't touch the audio files themselves.

[median basalt]

Volume is capped at 0.9. SDK's from before the audio "rework" around february have a much more generous rolloff, but are capped at 0.5 volume

[opaque hawk]

It’s a limiter

[sterile drift]

February's audio being generous?

Forces an ONSP

[tacit plank]

There's a Unity gain and a gain in the audio file itself I guess. Both result in horrible sound quality too

[opaque hawk]

If you mix your audio to 0db it should be fine in unity. You can check volume levels in audacity

0db is not silent

Music is generally mixed to -6db before mastering

[ruby needle]

0dB what

dBu dBV dBFS dBr?

[tacit plank]

My physics classes were pretty low level, so no idea. What's the general standard?

[ruby needle]

Haven't had digital yet.

Analogue all mixers we worked with have +4dBu as 0dB ref

So ~1,23V

[vocal shard]

         {
             float dB;
             
             if (linear != 0)
                 dB = 20.0f * Mathf.Log10(linear);
             else
                 dB = -144.0f;
             
             return dB;
         }```

to go from 0-1 to dB

in unity

or online http://www.playdotsound.com/portfolio-item/decibel-db-to-float-value-calculator-making-sense-of-linear-values-in-audio-tools/

[vocal shard]

Anyone know how to change your vrchat in game name

you already asked that and got an answer tho

[inner vale]

Must be really determined

[vocal shard]

Na I just didn’t see the message at 1st

We are no longer processing name changes through email while we work on an improved name-change system. We'll have an announcement when this is available.```

Damn

Let’s hope it’s soon

The new method was already added, but it was just pulled due to a bug. So it should be back soon

soon or vrchat soon ?

[inner vale]

Lol

[vocal shard]

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard ima guess soon as Tupper said because of a bug it got cut

[sterile drift]

Soon is just normal soon

VRChat soon is like

"When are chairs coming back"

lol

[median basalt]

In a matter of weeks and not months, we swear

[sterile drift]

[rough flax]

Remember when avatars used to load instantly? Pepperridge farm remembers

[inner vale]

I don't since I'm still new, lol.

[gleaming patio]

now even my own avatar isnt loaded when the world starts

i remember when your own avatar was always there when the world loaded

lol

[vocal shard]

My VR solution is still frustrating

My phone connects to my VR thing and the Kinect tracks my body. I have Driver4VR set to use my Wiimotes for input but it doesn't register it in SteamVR although it registers what I do in Driver4VR

[inner vale]

That sounds...complicated. Lol.

[vocal shard]

It is

[rigid crescent]

Just get a wmr god damn

[vocal shard]

I will eventually

No money for no so

And also tons of time that I have nothing to do with

Wow... That's one heck of a set up... O.o

It is indeed

I even bluescreened when doing this

It's basically a waste of time since nobody knows how it works

[opaque hawk]

Does Kinect work with wmr, does vive leg trackers work with wmr?

[vocal shard]

Not sure if Vive leg trackers work with WMR

I think Driver4VR just connects to SteamVR

[opaque hawk]

If it does that would be sweet since let’s say I upgraded my computer I wouldn’t have to upgrade my headset as well

[umbral reef]

For the vive trackers you need the vive lighthouses so

[vocal shard]

So probably not

If you're gonna get the lighthouses you might as well get the Vive

[umbral reef]

I know Ocu + Vive trackers (with vive lighthouses) does work so

[ruby needle]

should work with wmr too.

[vocal shard]

Not sure why'd you have both in the first place though

The Vive is somewhat similarly priced to the Oculus at $500

because you buy the trackers separately

and if you already have a rift

it cost less to just buy the tracker and 2 lighthouses

I mean in that case it'd probably be reasonable

than the whole vive package

Yes

Not sure how much the lighthouses and the leg trackers are

You can definitely get them to work with a WMR or Oculus

If you have a Kinect you can get somewhat decent leg tracking

depend on where you are
one lighthouse for me cost 150 and one tracker is 120
so it's going to be pretty expensive for me if i want to get them

valve knuckles aslo work with wmr same way the trackers do...

~dashes outta here~

[opaque hawk]

The biggest question is wmr Head + knuckles + leg trackers

[ruby needle]

There also is the Nolo VR thingy that works together with driver4vr

[opaque hawk]

Oh snap

[vocal shard]

Oh yeah

The dev for climby already made a video on using wmr and knuckles

btw fpaul

did you get yours ?

when I get a chance, I want to try the nolo

[ruby needle]

no it... looks like it got canceled

[warm swallow]

Does anyone have the announcment about the name changes ?

what was that about

[vocal shard]

wdym

[ruby needle]

it's comming soon, currently down because of a bug

well, ebay told me the order got canceled

[warm swallow]

so you will be able to change name without requesting it from support

[ruby needle]

yes

[vocal shard]

since when can they cancel your own stuff like that ?

[warm swallow]

is there like a limit or sth

[vocal shard]

we don't know

[umbral reef]

No one knows as we did not get info about it yet

[vocal shard]

One change every 90 days

read the announcement

only thing we knew before was one change per month

that's it

[warm swallow]

one munth

nice

epic

[ruby needle]

i mean, that user had a amount of 6 of them (even tho the order is still up) as a private user and one already was sold.

i have no clue, it looked skechy to begin with

[vocal shard]

you going to try other places ?

[ruby needle]

not really

[warm swallow]

companies can cancel any orders they like as long as they havent shipped the order they can do what they want

[ruby needle]

not for the og prices

[vocal shard]

[ruby needle]

for 100€ i'd have given it a try but thats about it

[umbral reef]

@warm swallow Depends- Often its not that clear cut

As when you buy a product you start a contract technically

[warm swallow]

nah not when u buy it

when they have shipped it

[ruby needle]

depends on your country

for auctions wether or not instant buy or not you actually have a right to get it

and if you dont get it you might be eligeble for compensation

same goes when cancelling active auctions and you're the highest bidder

[umbral reef]

The rule is that you have to be 'whole' then
What means getting money back without any fee's at all or the product

[ruby needle]

no no no
if for example there is a auction with a car.

i bid 1000€ on it but the seller wants more and cancels it

i can actually sue them

[umbral reef]

Also- Blank, within EU and US you start a binding contract when buying it that follows consumer laws and there ToS

[ruby needle]

to give me the car for 1000€ even tho that it was not finished (or a compensation)

with only few exceptions

[umbral reef]

BUT that only happens the second they accept money

[ruby needle]

no

again

[umbral reef]

Im not talking about acutions

[ruby needle]

if i bid 1000€ and the auction is still running

and they cancel it

no money payed yet

[warm swallow]

I also wasnt talking about auctions

[umbral reef]

Also #general-media

[ruby needle]

yes

lets move there

[junior root]

Good afternoon that sounds like it was an Intresting conversation

[vocal shard]

it was, and then they moved to #general-media and stopped

...

[umbral reef]

wat?

[vapid socket]

why was that deleted? 🤔

[vocal shard]

wot ?

Idk..

Oh... Because pepe

[vapid socket]

i said i was trsuted and it got deleted

what?

[vocal shard]

Pepe is not allowed

[vapid socket]

really?

why?

[meager solstice]

Offesive

[vapid socket]

how? says who?

it's a twitch meme mostly

[meager solstice]

I mean it’s been very controversial

[vocal shard]

doesnt matter

it's in the rules

[vapid socket]

thats stupid, honestly

[vocal shard]

simple as that

[vapid socket]

if u believe that garbage, come on

but w/e

[vocal shard]

I was used as a symbol for hate speech.. so Bec of that association, it's banned

[vapid socket]

anyway

[vocal shard]

it's not a question of believing or not

it's in the rules

that's all there is to it

[vapid socket]

got trusted bois

[vocal shard]

[meager solstice]

Got trusted, doesn’t know Pepe is banned?

Mhm

[vocal shard]

Nice ^^

[vapid socket]

like people read the rules upon joing a discord 😛

not like it was intentional

[ruby needle]

thats on the people then tho

😄

[languid beacon]

I got trusted at 302 hours people say that was pretty early

Noooo clue what I did

First thing I did was hide it lol

[meager solstice]

y

[rigid crescent]

the only way to know pepe is banned is to be on the discord lol

and also be around when someone posts it

most people, including some mods, agree that it's a stupid rule but that's how it be sometimes

when certain higher ups are...well, you know

[compact river]

scared of frogs

yes thats it

and or crazy

[sterile drift]

I never hide my Trusted rank

Reason being is well

The Trust system being weird

idc if people try to kick me

[languid beacon]

It’s a good rule. I don’t care about the meme or the webcomic one way or the other. The people who like the meme and use it on the other hand tend to be a little uh... Well, it’s a good rule.

[sterile drift]

It never works

[compact river]

o boi would you hate twitch then adeon

[civic plume]

uwu

trust

[vocal shard]

What if they’re a girl irl
but identify as a guy
but then play as a girl in game
are they still a trap?

[compact river]

thats what we call 2 much effort 2 deal with

[civic plume]

oh boy

that’s a good question sir

[languid beacon]

It’s a trap if it’s not what you expect, so yeah, probably

It’s not a trap if you are well aware they are a dude (b’.’)b

[ruby needle]

its more about the avatar it self imo. not who plays it.

with the only exception you could call a trap beeing male players disgusing as a female with imitating a female voice to trick others

[languid beacon]

Most people I see just use it refer to female avies played by guys

[ruby needle]

yeah

[languid beacon]

Even if there’s no attempt to trick anyone

[ruby needle]

I personally find it absolutely awfull.

[languid beacon]

I got called a trap for using inkling girl and just talking normally lol

[compact river]

normies ya

[civic plume]

oof

[rough flax]

@ruby needle /

[civic plume]

i am so bored

wanna play vrc but at work 😦

[inner vale]

It seems 90% of people leave me alone after I say "hello". Lol.

[vocal shard]

yeah that's normal

[rough flax]

fpaul notice me senpai

[umbral reef]

Ow my- Fpaul is starting to get his own harem

[covert linden]

I love when guys use female models on vrchat its always super cool

Because then I start to see that avatar as a guy

[umbral reef]

So you see like 90% of the anime things as male now?

[compact river]

🤔

[covert linden]

Basically

Even my boyfriend has a female avatar and the avatar looks more male to me noww

My other friend is that frog from bnha and its the same

[languid beacon]

That... doesn’t happen for me.

Usually I accidentally start referring to people by their avatars gender by accident

Accidentally by accident

[umbral reef]

'accidentally'

[vocal shard]

careful now.

[umbral reef]

Yea yea 😉

[covert linden]

Ah I don't do that unless they barely speak and I forget

[languid beacon]

I mean it’s hard to say something like “his boobs” with a straight face

[covert linden]

I mean I do that but I laugh

Because before I dated this guy for his reaction id take pictures of his panties and the group would be like wATCH OUT ASH WHY id be like "becauuse I like his panties"

[vocal shard]

oh

now that you say that

[covert linden]

But vrchat for me is also like an entirely new world

[vocal shard]

lot of people refer to me as she

but i never paid attention to that

wtf

[umbral reef]

Svel- If its the BM group they are just secretly trying to turn you info a full time maid so

[vocal shard]

no it's random people that i met

but good to know

[keen cairn]

Maybe consider that gender is irrelevant both in reality and virtually. The discerning factor is how that person chooses to identify. If a male wants to identify as female, that is their desire and prerogative. Sexuality and gender are very much a spectrum, and this diversity of character is something that should be appreciated, respected and celebrated. Then again, that would require maturity on behalf of the public.

[vocal shard]

exactly, which is something i don't have
so if someone is a girl, i'll refer to that person as a she 🤷

[keen cairn]

You don't have maturity?

[compact river]

rofl

wat is this

[vocal shard]

apparently not refering to the right gender = no maturity from what you said

so no

i don't have maturity

[umbral reef]

Boi- This is gonna be fun 🍿

[keen cairn]

Not being accepting of people's choices in this regard, especially in the real world; is a sign of immaturity. And ignorance.

[tacit plank]

Personally I don't think gender is super important

[vocal shard]

if you say so

must be right

You all know where to move.

[tacit plank]

I wrote personally this time, it's an opinion

[vocal shard]

not you caffeine

[rough flax]

Just imagine, in your dream, a cute anime girl arises and slowly walks to you, goes to your face and says, "What's up Man" in a deep manly voice.

[vocal shard]

also if you still want to continue the incoming shitfeast, let's move to #general-media before we upset the mods

[tacit plank]

Oh, strange, comments like that are usually directed at me... But lets go #general-media

[vocal shard]

and ruuubick

[rough flax]

This is general chat if vrchat stuff

[vocal shard]

gender talk is not general vrchat

[compact river]

imagine calling people immature for not thinking the same way you do 🤔

random chat time o boi

[zinc solar]

Me: I will give this avatar a quick decimation with 200k poly
Blender: Playstation 1 poly character
Me:

[rough flax]

[vocal shard]

[compact river]

[zinc solar]

[dense osprey]

hey guys if i turn my vrchat graphics to low will that change the way the quality is inside vrchat on VR?

[vocal shard]

no

[dense osprey]

should it improve my frames inside of VR then?

[vocal shard]

PS1 poly isn't a bad thing tho

i don't it will improve it a lot no

[dense osprey]

what do i choose to improve my frames?

vr low desktop low?

[umbral reef]

Depends what you use- VR or desktop

[dense osprey]

VR

but it wont make it look like crap? lol

[umbral reef]

Then VR low ;p

And not really

[compact river]

no it fine

[tacit plank]

You're likely limited on your CPU, not your GPU, so it won't do much difference for performance

[umbral reef]

But best suggestion i can do is just to turn off everything but the game while playing
Go into task manager and kill everything but the things you need to play

[vocal shard]

turn off discord too

that thing is heavy

[dense osprey]

yeah my cpu is maxed 100 in VR D:

[vocal shard]

uhh

what CPU do you have ?

[dense osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Laptop-Intel-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0764HW117/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1541830883&sr=8-8&keywords=Dell+Inspirion+gaming+laptop

this is my laptop

[tacit plank]

Discord fluctuates between 0 and 1% cpu for me

[ruby needle]

yeeh that cpu isn't great

[dense osprey]

oh rip

sadly my vrchat jitters like crazy esp if like 4 or more people are around

[compact river]

erm

[vocal shard]

CPU is lacking a bit

also only 8GB or RAM

pretty sure that's not helping with the lacking CPU already

[compact river]

could try the desktop setting in vr

[ruby needle]

looking at benchmarks my 2600k is 10% faster on SC without oc

[dense osprey]

so dont use vr low?

[compact river]

just try them all

see what you can get away with

[dense osprey]

I will do

[ruby needle]

you cpu is going to limit no matter the settings

[dense osprey]

It's odd bc my pc is vr ready

._.'

[compact river]

thats just a hot sale word

[ruby needle]

there is no general recommendt spec

[dense osprey]

FSDFSFSF

oof

discord takes 20% cpu (:

[ruby needle]

you'd want to close it to play

[compact river]

last update for my discord makes it eat up a crazy amount in calls

[dense osprey]

Oh yeah

[ruby needle]

allone for the ram

😄

[compact river]

i close it myself

[dense osprey]

Like wtf discord

[ruby needle]

well it's justa chrome app, but let's keep this vrchat related

[compact river]

vrchat related with discord killing all out cpu used for vrchat

yes thats it

[idle elm]

Electron sucks

[vocal shard]

can i have a steam, and vrchat account for different occasions?

[ruby needle]

if you want to

[compact river]

as long as one does not get banned you are fine with many accounts

some do it for like

rp

[vocal shard]

i have the VRchat one for productive stuff

its ｜｜ Enz_Gamer｜｜

and the steam one for messing around

how do you start making a world?

[inner cape]

You just... uh

What do you mean by "start making one"?

[vocal shard]

how to build a world?

[tacit plank]

New unity project. Import vrchat SDK. Make the actual world (which is at minimum a vrc_world prefab) and upload

[inner cape]

I mean, I'm making one from scratch in blender, but yes, you can use prefabs and all

[tacit plank]

It's super easy to make a world. A good world might require effort though

I'm off now. But there are a few VRChat world tutorials on Youtube. Once you've gained a basic understanding I guess you just search for anything that you want online, put it into blender, export as fbx, and throw it into Unity until you have a working world

[rough flax]

I'm still using an i7 2600k woo! @ruby needle

[inner vale]

I definitely want to try and make my own avatars.

[inner cape]

Do it then

[inner vale]

I'm going to try, lol. I doubt I'll be very good since I don't really use Unity or Blender.

[vocal shard]

how do i sign into my vrchat account in unity?

[inner cape]

through the sdk

[rough flax]

In the sdk from the vrchat website

[languid beacon]

Yeah good VRChat fps tip: alt f4 discord

(That closes it so no one complains)

[ruby needle]

and your browser or any other hogging programm

like.. anti malware programs

[rough flax]

[ruby needle]

whitelist the game so it doesnt monitor it constantly

(mainly the real time checking things)

and make sure it doesnt make a scann in the background

not that it has ever happened to me

no

[compact river]

yes def no

[languid beacon]

@vocal shard download the VRCSDK from VRChat.net. In unity, do assets > import package > custom package, and pick the SDK you downloaded. Once imported, you’ll have a new VRChat menu at the top of unity.

Then it’s just VRChat > Settings

[ruby needle]

i mean, you can just drag and drop

[languid beacon]

That works too I guess

[compact river]

i keep it on my desktop well

everything i use

in all projects

[languid beacon]

I can’t use my desktop. I have two 1080p monitors, and they are overfilled with useless icons. I just hide the icons and pretend the problem does not exist.

[compact river]

0-0

it cant be that bad...right?

[royal pond]

I never put anything on my desktop

[languid beacon]

Every so often I throw them all in a new folder named junk, including the previous folder named junk

[compact river]

going into library to find something i use all the time is effort

[royal pond]

It all goes into a folder in my documents folder or anywhere other than the desktop

[rough flax]

DWM disable that

Make the desktop look like windows xp

[languid beacon]

I uh. I could probably lose 2 terrabyres of random pictures and memes and not even notice what’s missing

[royal pond]

Wut no DWM keeps the desktop running smoothly, by offloading the work onto the GPU instead of the CPU

[rough flax]

Keep task manager open while doing stuff and see what's eating all of your CPU

[royal pond]

Every time DWM stops doing its thing I get hoooooorrible lag in game

[rough flax]

🤔

[wary coral]

whats dwm

[zinc solar]

Anyone want to join my giveaway to join my giveaway for a chance to win a chance to be in a giveaway?

[wary coral]

that doesnt make any sense

[zinc solar]

Yes

You join a giveaway to get in a giveaway to win a chance to join a giveaway, with the prize being a chance to join a giveaway

[compact river]

i feel like i watched a show about something just like that

[vocal shard]

Giveaway royale

[civic plume]

someone hug 😦

send vrchat

[zinc solar]

[compact river]

but it says give pats 🤔

[civic plume]

i can’t change 😭

[compact river]

says *warning do not hug

[civic plume]

work is boring i want to play vrchat

[vocal shard]

hello

[royal pond]

DWM = Desktop Window Manager
It’s the technology behind Windows Aero when that existed but has been used in the updated Metro UI for Windows 10, it offloads the rendering of your desktop to the graphics card so your central processor doesn’t have to draw the screen, something it’s very unoptimized for

[maiden hound]

whats with all the portal crashers?

i keep encountering them now

[compact river]

?

[maiden hound]

i was just crashed by one

people drop a portal inside of you with no name or creator, and if you move you go in it and and crashes like your whole computer

super fed up with vrchat right now 😂 I know its not their fault buts its super annoying

[vocal shard]

...

[maiden hound]

?

[royal pond]

How do people drop a portal inside you

[vocal shard]

for real tho

you cant drop portals when you next to a player?.

[maiden hound]

I dont know, but it spawns literally inside your body

[ivory folio]

modded client

[vocal shard]

lag

[maiden hound]

definetly modded client, the person makes themselves invisible and drops it inside of you'

but really vrc team should look into it, it freezes your computer unless you have a SUPER good gaming computer

[rough flax]

KOS 🤔

[inner cape]

Um

I wish modders were able to drop money like in gta 5

[rough flax]

I'm not sure if Delaney is being targeted or if he just isn't, uhhhh.

[inner cape]

He's just being a pepega

[compact river]

i have not been crashed in ages

[heavy narwhal]

Oh hi PurpleHeart

[plucky sorrel]

Does trust decay over time?

[rough flax]

Ohai @heavy narwhal

@plucky sorrel nobody knoowsss

[vocal shard]

Oculus Rift or HTC Vive?

[heavy narwhal]

I'm going Vive personally

[vocal shard]

Why's that?

[plucky sorrel]

Vive, better tracking and just noticeably more powerful

[inner cape]

Better tracking is bs

[ruby needle]

Do not ask the same thing across multiple channels simultaniously

we're already talking about it in #vrchat-general-1

[rough flax]

Yay mages goes VR

Is it too late to get vr for vrchat? 🤔

[inner cape]

Ofc not

[plucky sorrel]

No it’s past it’s big boom early this year but the player base is very constant now and has been for months, it slowly increases if anything due to new people always getting vr

[rough flax]

Are people buying vr for vrchat specifically?

[compact river]

->

[plucky sorrel]

A chunk of people probably are, but plenty of people always end up getting and playing it since it’s free I believe

[compact river]

guilty

[severe mural]

If my computer was capable of running it and I had the money, I would have VR for VRchat specifically

[plucky sorrel]

For a lot of people it end up being their most played vr game by far, myself included

[inner cape]

I mean, I did buy it for vrc

But ofc got other games too

[burnt fiber]

I have Pavlov and have about 2 hours for it. I have over 500 for VrChat.

[meager solstice]

cant wait for name change to come back up, so i can change my name

[whole depot]

@modern sand I would like to report two dangerous users by the names of "KOREA" and "INSEOUL" In which have been a victim of about five minutes ago and told me my state, city, address and name and date of birth. As well what Senior high Grade I was in (Senior last year I graduate)

The law punishes hacking under the computer crime statutes. These crimes carry penalties ranging from a class B misdemeanor (punishable by up to six months in prison, a fine of up to $1,000, or both) to a class B felony (punishable by up to 20 years in prison, a fine of up to $15,000, or both).

These two individual's are very dangerous and I would like either the Staff to take a look at this please.

"KOREA" and "INSEOUL"

[ruby needle]

#moderation-reports

And do not ping admins for no absolute emergencies.

[whole depot]

Considering Personal Vital information is technically of this subject.

[rigid crescent]

that's pretty cool actually

[rough flax]

No NaMiNg AnD sHaMiNg

[vocal shard]

I'm not buying VR for VRChat specifically, but that's what I'm primarily gonna be playing on it

[empty wharf]

i did

but expanded upon my list

[vocal shard]

I have heard that the Lenovo Explorer, the device I'm likely going to get, has issues with hand trackers on VRChat

I might get Job Simulator on Steam

[compact river]

if your sitting down

ya very much so

[vocal shard]

I'll likely be standing up

[compact river]

but standing is 100% good for its price

[vocal shard]

summoned on word of Lenovo explorer

Do you have it?

Lol

[compact river]

yes

[queen mango]

Have I heard Lenovo?

[vocal shard]

Glad I now know people who have it

I have it ^^

I'm a pretty cheap person so

[compact river]

it has probs sitting down i feel like but it all goes away standing

like finding the sweet spot

[vocal shard]

I mean I bought a 1060 3GB off of eBay

[ruby needle]

3GB

[vocal shard]

I have the same gpu

[ruby needle]

wrong decission

[meager solstice]

same

[compact river]

im running mine on a 840 mobile so

[vocal shard]

So I have been told

[compact river]

LOL

[vocal shard]

I bought a 1050 earlier but sent it back because I decided I want to do decent VR

[plucky sorrel]

What do you guys play the most besides vrchat?

[compact river]

it somehow works

[vocal shard]

840 doesn't sound so good for it

[compact river]

its not but

it can do it

somehow

[vocal shard]

Sounds like motion sickness

Other than vrchat... Beatsaber

[compact river]

im still confused tbh

[plucky sorrel]

1060 6b and I get high frames unless there’s 20+ people

[vocal shard]

I've been playing Destiny 2

[plucky sorrel]

I think I’ll get beatsaber for bf

[languid beacon]

Pretty sure the majority of people here use vr for VRChat specifically. I mean it’s the only one with infinite playability since social

[rigid crescent]

it's fun if you install the mods and stuff to paly custom songs

[queen mango]

Tru

[languid beacon]

I love beat saber though

[rigid crescent]

definitely recommend beatsaber

[vocal shard]

The songs I listen to probably won't be on beatsaber

Unless the game has an algorithm that does the thing to any song

[rigid crescent]

i thought that

it doesn't

[languid beacon]

Games like luckys take and moss are really good but once you beat them you are done

[vocal shard]

Ah

I don't think R.E.M would be a good band to play in Beatsaber

[queen mango]

What about some NieR: Automata songs?

[vocal shard]

Guessing that's Japanese or anime-like

[queen mango]

Bipolar Nightmare

[languid beacon]

DDR songs are the bomb in beat saber

[vocal shard]

I don't really like anime

[queen mango]

Video game, PD

Japanese hack-n-slash action game

Made by Yoko Taro

[vocal shard]

Not very interested in the japanese songs

keep in mind... This is the vrchat channel... Might want to move channels is talking about other games now

before a mod notices

Like in #vrchat-general-1 ?

mods are asleep

[queen mango]

Random chat

[ruby needle]

#general-media

[vocal shard]

Ah

[queen mango]

Alright then

[compact river]

o no

[vocal shard]

Not very used to the server yet

[compact river]

we busted boys

[languid beacon]

To random chat!

[rough flax]

@whole depot it's actually not that hard to figure out someone's info to doxx them. There was "some" security issues.

[jagged maple]

yo anybody wanna play vrchat rn?

[vocal shard]

I'm on now but my friend is a bit offensive in some ways

Not bannable ways but

Can he take a joke?

He can

And does he have some good jokes?

He doesn't tell jokes much

Sounds like someone I can be with

Maybe so

If he can take a joke, fine by me

It's hard to find someone that I can share a laugh with

I'm not that offended, or get offended easily, fine by me

I mean I'm pretty offensive too

I can tell some pretty offensive jokes

Do you drop N-bombs and the like?

Maybe

Maybe

totally not giving it away

Gonna go with "Yes" for 500 then

You win

Ahhh, I see

I'm on Twitch a lot, so yeee

I would love to hang out with you lads, it's just that I can't risk it

Have fun though!

Ah

My friend hates streamers so

mmmmmm

Gotcha

That's why I was asking ya see

[rigid crescent]

lol sounds like a right edgy group of folks

[vocal shard]

Indeed

[rough flax]

Can I get " sensitive people" for $500

What is SJW's?

That is correct. $500

[vocal shard]

I'm not offended by the N-word n shit

[rigid crescent]

i mean i dont stream and that already sounds pretty 1 dimensional

[vocal shard]

It's just that Twitch is kinda bleh about that stuff

[rigid crescent]

"i hate streamers and drop n bombs"

[vocal shard]

They're pretty cool

[rough flax]

@vocal shard HOOOLY

[vocal shard]

I mean I don't hang out with them all the time

I mean, I don't stuff it down people's throats

[rough flax]

Is someone says it, I just go, "WOAAAAHHH"

[vocal shard]

I try to be a bit more subtle

He's user rank somehow though

who, me?

[rigid crescent]

i mean it only matters if you're reported

so no one reports nothing happens, usually

[vocal shard]

I'm only a user, that's true

I'm New User

[rough flax]

I'm close to being known instead of trusted cause my friends keep on kicking me from the instances.

[rigid crescent]

that doesn't matter

[vocal shard]

Yeah

I mean I can be annoying sometimes

Maybe you are, but not to me

I mean people here probably haven't seen me in VRChat

-famous last words

[rigid crescent]

ive apparently been in the same room as jamie and someone else

but i've never seen them

[vocal shard]

My name in VRChat is the same on Discord

[rough flax]

I see youtubers and streamers all the time. I just don't talk to them.

Crashers lurk the shadows monkaX

[hasty wedge]

the moment my eyes see the legendary wrist flip

they are already dead

[vocal shard]

Hmm?

[compact river]

o for reading chat

[vocal shard]

ok

^

I was about to say

And i just realized

[hasty wedge]

twitch and youtube was a mistake

[vocal shard]

I think that parts of both were a mistake

There are ways to enjoy em both, but those ways are kinda getting rarer, I guess

Bad way to phrase it, but that's my take

[upper parrot]

how is everyone

k

[vocal shard]

Doing good lad

[inner vale]

I'm alright.

[upper parrot]

good

[vocal shard]

good

yes, am human

[inner vale]

Lol

[vocal shard]

Not a bot

Totally

Kill all humans

Yes, how do you do?

I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave

OPEN THE DOORS HAL

HALLLLL

Book was different than the movie

[inner vale]

In all seriousness, though, I'm pretty bored, lol.

[vocal shard]

Yea, I liked em both

Movie is a masterpiece, book is a masterpiece

I read the whole 2001 quartet, it was enjoyable

I saw the movie in IMAX

The unedited remaster?

Yes

that looked amazing

I already saw it before, but still

You enjoyed it?

[queen mango]

Might wanna talk about it in random chat

[vocal shard]

Good point

[queen mango]

Or in public lobby

[vocal shard]

Oh yeah

#general-media

[inner vale]

Lol

[vocal shard]

So, yea

[signal wren]

getting sick of mirrors crashing me now ever since the update

[queen mango]

Wait.. Mirrors crash now?

[compact river]

i have not had problems with mirrors or "better mirrors" myself as of yesterday

[queen mango]

Me neither.

[rigid crescent]

same

all good here

[vocal shard]

No issues here...

[queen mango]

@signal wren It may have to do with the map itself

[true sky]

@rough flax they are not your friends if they kick you just for hanging out

Or attempting to

I hate people who do that

Believe me, has happened before

[vocal shard]

Hey there

I'm curious

If you log in with your steam account

and then merge it with your vrchat account

VRChat account is main account

Does everything from my VRChat account override my steam account?

(Intended result) ^

They get combined

[compact river]

From what i know it just adds the stuff from your steam on into vrchat one

[vocal shard]

But the vrchat account is the main one. So it uses that name and stuff. But things like playtime, friends, ect. Gets added

[queen mango]

@true sky I know how that feels

[vocal shard]

I have an existing Steam account which is Visitor but my VRC account is New User. What rank will I have if I merge them

Your vrchat account + whatever stats you have on the steam account

It just gets added

Like I was known user on my vrchat account, but when I merged my steam account, it combined and now my vrchat account is trusted

Ah

So it might raise my rank?

[compact river]

Ya

[vocal shard]

Possible

[compact river]

Also takes a bit

Not Insta

[vocal shard]

I'll try it tomorrow

[compact river]

Windows 10 ran i to a problem trying to update without warning me first

[queen mango]

Strange... My settings don't show the option to merge accounts

[compact river]

Good job guys

[vocal shard]

Odd

Oof

[queen mango]

I had 2 days in there

The Steam account

[vocal shard]

🤔

I used a Steam account because before I couldn't log into my VRC account for some reason

I just have Windows update when I'm at school

[compact river]

Tbh i only update it because of mixed

Or i would have never changed

[vocal shard]

I'll be getting Mixed in December

I like to be updated

[queen mango]

The price for the Lenovo Explorer with Motion Controllers is at USD449 (~Php22,969.04)

[vocal shard]

$150 refurbished on eBay

[queen mango]

Copied from YugaTech.
But I have to pay for additional shipping fees

[compact river]

You can get lenovo new from Wal-Mart 200 with tax

[queen mango]

Like 25%

I'm not from the US

[vocal shard]

no rear tracking is what kills the appeal of WMR for me

Ah

[queen mango]

Well, better start hoping from GabeN that their VR headset will feature rear cameras as well as IO-tracking

[vocal shard]

How much tracking behind you do you need though? It still tracks 6dof behind you for ~5 seconds

I guess, but I'd rather pay a premium to get the whole experience and not something that's half assed in any respect

True

I just don't have much money

already made that mistake with OSVR

Not old enough for a job

[queen mango]

But isnt WMR the best for your budget?

[vocal shard]

Yeah

[queen mango]

Required specs isn't as high as per say, the Oculus or Vive

[vocal shard]

Yeah

Unless you want SteamVR

SteamVR still recommends a 1060

Recommends, but lower still runs. I've used it on a 1050 laptop for vrchat, beatsaber, lab

Yeah

Vrchat isn't very intensive

[queen mango]

GPU-wise

[vocal shard]

Yeah

[queen mango]

As long as you have an i5, it should be fine

[vocal shard]

I have an i5 6th generation

[queen mango]

And it isn't more than 2 cores

[vocal shard]

Also 8GB RAM

[queen mango]

Mine's 4GB RAM

Was thinking of upgrading it

[vocal shard]

I guess 4GB can do

You probably should

I only experienced 4 on a Core 2 Duo

[queen mango]

That's not really good for VR, 4 GB

[vocal shard]

I know that

8GB is recommended

[queen mango]

Yea

I have about P11,500... More than enough to cover the cost of a 4GB RAM stick

[vocal shard]

Weird flex but ok

My computer performs pretty well

[compact river]

4gb will be a problem with vrchat not dumping data

More so in longer play sessions

[supple bison]

🅱

[rough flax]

Wow I just crashed by clicking on a mirror

Fix

[vocal shard]

so when is VRChat 2 coming out?

[cold talon]

Working on it

[compact river]

Vrchat 1 dlc first

Cmon brah

[cold talon]

Lootboxes

[compact river]

🤔

Items locked behind gambling 🤔

Day 1 dlc 🤔

Collectors edition that does not come with the game 🤔

[lilac swan]

It's already out for the Nintendo Switch

Just enable VR mode and download it from the eshop

[compact river]

Nani

[cold talon]

[compact river]

[vocal shard]

someones gonna take it seriously

Lol

[lilac swan]

I hope they do

[compact river]

Crap just got a switch when you said it

[vocal shard]

Lemme just turn on my switch....

[cold talon]

I bought playmaker a switch because vrc said so!

[vocal shard]

just noticed your pfp. Lol

[compact river]