Yeah, 45 and 90 are about the same for me in most situations
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
But yeah for me vrchat in vr on a 960m is enjoyable
rough pulsar
I'm amazed a 960m can even handle VR at all
vocal shard
But being limited to a handful of low performance-cost games for vr kinda makes vr less worth it
I mean back when the oculus SDKs came out, people were playing vr on even weaker cards
Vr has just gotten more demanding overall since
floral aspen
I can't wait for the native Oculus client to come back
vocal shard
Especially with people getting motion sickness
opaque hawk
I run vr in a 1050ti, it works surprisingly well.
vocal shard
Necessitating 90fps
I just find it kinda funny now looking back at people being so insistent on requiring "at least a 1060" or else you'll fucking die
rough pulsar
What I find odd is that they say low framerates cause motion sickness, whereas they just give me a headache.
vocal shard
I guess it has different effects on people
Headaches are the most common one i think
I haven't personally heard any cases of nausea
opaque hawk
I used to get motion sickness, I treated myself with cheap ginger beer until I got used to it
rough pulsar
The only nauseating effect in VR for me is smooth turning.
Sliding did briefly but I adjusted to that pretty quick, but turning is always 9 seconds away from a horrid sensation in my innards.
opaque hawk
Same I cannot do smooth turning
rough pulsar
And funnily enough it's only around my vertical axis.
Roll or pitch, no problem. Spin me right round baby.
Yaw? Not a hope 🤢
floral aspen
When I first started using my rift a few things made me motion sick, but after that, nothing. I'm pretty much immune to it now
neon flume
Smooth turn is fine for me* as long as I don’t start turning irl at the same time. I tried walking in circles while counter rotating in VR and ended up on the floor after only a few revolutions.
vocal shard
Smooth turning has never bothered me, it just makes me lose my balance a little if I'm turning irl at the same time
rough pulsar
One thing I noticed back when I used AltspaceVR a lot, the majority of the rift users used (and liked) the smooth turning there and were also playing in seated mode.
Makes me wonder if being seated gave extra grounding to prevent the visual-vestibular disconnect.
vocal shard
I think so
floral aspen
In fact as time has gone on I've been feeling less immersed. Stuff like looking over the edge of a tall building and flying used to give me a real sense of vertigo, like I was about to fall or something. Looking at big things used to give this overwhelming sense of scale. Now it all feels normal
vocal shard
Perhaps people get used to that disconnect from being seated in vehicles
And same tidus
rough pulsar
Yeah, since it's expected that we have seats in moving things, whereas it's rare to stand on moving things.
vocal shard
Though that could just be from messing with my ipd configuration too often
I need to get back into elite dangerous but in vr
I tried it once and died in a white dwarf
Shit was terrifying but beautiful
rough pulsar
I still get a good feeling of scale of things in VR.
I do wonder if that's at all related to the fact I also use an avatar close to my physical size (and thus ipd) in vrchat
vocal shard
Hmm
Now that i think about it i think weird proportions might be one thing interfering with my sense of scale in vrchat
Anime avatars tend to have longer than normal legs so depending on how the game determines ipd scaling it might add to the disconnect by making your point of view appear too high
Is the ipd scaling based off of the overall height or arm length?
rough pulsar
More often than not the world appears much larger whenever I try an anime avatar
and ipd is a combination of your height as set in the settings and the avatar's height, which is likely related to the armspan.
vocal shard
I see
floral aspen
I use an avatar that's slightly taller than me IRL but not enough to make a huge difference
opaque hawk
I noticed that most avatars are actually scaled well below the recommended size
rough pulsar
Same, there's about 10cm difference between me and my avatar.
safe prism
i like being smol and vrc lets me be smol
rough pulsar
It's kinda annoying having to bend down for more than half the userbase
vocal shard
My height in the settings isn't the same as my irl height since my point of view ends up too high or low
floral aspen
lol I know that feel Gallium
rough pulsar
Scratch that, it's very annoying. I hate looking down at people so I always try to get on their level.
safe prism
i'm too tall irl so i just be a foot or two shorter
vocal shard
Relative to the avatar's actual face
opaque hawk
Like most of my avatars are actually around 4’6” to 5’5”in height
vocal shard
Which I've found strange but it's somehow related to the longer legs thing
I believe
So i have to lower that setting in order to get my eyes aligned with the avatar's
opaque hawk
Maybe we need a blender tutorial on how to shrink legs lol
vocal shard
I mean i know how to do it, i just don't bother
safe prism
kung's fbt one is basically that
vocal shard
And there is such a tutorial but aimed at fbt users
rough pulsar
I disagree. Leg scaling isn't even close to complex enough to need a tutorial.
rigid crescent
there's a guide for that,, a few
opaque hawk
It was a joke
rough pulsar
I've just woke up and my brain ain't doing the do
safe prism
i didn't see the joke either
neon flume
I wonder if the average avatar height has dropped over time like a kind of cuteness arms race. Ooka Mikos seem to be a lot shorter now than they were several months ago. Would be fun if we had the data to graph that out.
vocal shard
My brain never does regardless of wokeness
floral aspen
your brain don't think it be like it is
but it do
safe prism
maybe i have awwootism
rough pulsar
don't judge me 😀
vocal shard
too late
safe prism
owo
opaque hawk
No judgment here
opaque hawk
@neon flume I have the same theory, the race for head pats
queen mango
Am I the only one with nyaatism?
twin jacinth
Nyaatism >.<
Btw has anyone encountered a bug where you can't mute your mic in desktop mode? it's been like this for a while and its a pain in the ass
fading surge
does anyone know how to rig mmd avatars?
if so go to #avatars-mmd and read my message
hearty wyvern
No anime
near saffron
^
umbral reef
How will i find my waifu then
hearty wyvern
Look in the old hub.
hearty wyvern
Inb4 its ur mom
umbral reef
Nothing :c?
queen mango
Shouldn't this go to random chat? We don't want to get Ruuubwhipped here
umbral reef
Lets transfer to randomo chat ye
twin jacinth
IkoZe
distant path
i have a sony bluethooth headphones and i connected it to steam but dont know how to connect it to the game...it wont let me play keeps saying not ready
help....
or not
@modern sand can u help me?
distant path
oh okay sorry im new
glossy wharf
Its in the rules
distant path
and i broke a rule on day one
near saffron
Chase em out with pitch folks and torches
modern sand
#vrchat-support @distant path
distant path
ty!
vocal shard
Does anyone know how to turn on the music in the PUG?
undone perch
in the settings probably
near saffron
Think it dead for Halloween event
ivory tendon
heyy so i jsut got mixed reality
and i would like to know how to unbend my arms?
like i will stretch them out but they stay bent
safe prism
in-game player height would need to be adjusted
plush osprey
Once thats done then try just changing seated play and standing till ur arms are straight
ivory tendon
ok
so how tall would i need to set it for being 5 7
becuase when i set it to 5 7 it makes me extremely tall
vocal shard
Don't set it to your real height. Need to play around with it
Probably closer to your model height
ivory tendon
alrighty ill mess around with it
vocal shard
I'm 5'7 but in game it's set to 5'2
ivory tendon
ok thank you
ruby burrow
I've never understood this thing personally. I've always had my user height set to my exact actual height, and never had issues with incorrect eye placement on any avatar.
But I often hear of people that do. And it leaves me wondering what the difference is that causes it.
neon flume
It depends on the model too. You might need to adjust if you switch to a model that has very different proportions.
I've never had to adjust it beyond my actual height either, maybe it's our real life height or proportions?
ruby burrow
Nah, I've never ever had to switch it based on model either, and I've got plenty of unconventionally proportioned ones.
I'm 6'1 myself, but unless someone is exceptionally tall or short, I struggle to imagine that causing it.
vocal shard
Its an insult to be like, 6'7 and be a knuckles model. Which is barely scraping 1 foot XD
ruby burrow
Hmm. What method does WMR use to measure the playspace floor position?
Although then again, one of my friends claims to have the same issue and he's on Oculus, so that's probably not it either.
I feel it definitely shouldn't be model height related, since I've got four variants of the same model at 6 inches, 5 foot, 9 foot, and 24 foot tall. All exactly the same in terms of eye level.
neon flume
Proportions might have an affect though right? A model with longer arms relative to their torso height might have more of that bending issue.
vocal shard
It's dependant on the model. Like if I make my setting my real height, the hands end up looking massive and bigger than my real hands
ruby burrow
Strange proportions certainly move my play space floor around, but I've never had them move the view position away from where the avatar descriptor was set.
Proportions also effect your virtual IPD. But shouldn't move it outside of the head.
vocal shard
It never changes the view point...
ruby burrow
Oh, sorry then. I've heard people claiming it does for them.
I didn't mean to mix up what you were saying.
Still though, I've never had that myself. It's always automatically scaled things to feel correct.
vocal shard
It's really dependant on the model it seems. Like if I use one of the x/y bots, it needs to be my real height. But if it's one like a model using a Rin base, it need to lower it.
ruby burrow
That's why I want to know what's causing this difference for different players. Since that's just not been the case for me. ._.
If I ever change my height setting, it starts to mess things up pretty quickly.
I end up either automatically squatting, or stuck on tip toes.
rough pulsar
If Y-bot works fine but you have to do werid shit for your own avatar, your own avatar is wrong somehow.
vocal shard
It's not just "my" avatar. Any world avatar that isn't the real proportions sometimes needs a tweek in height
From my experience
Could be a wmr thing. Idk
rough pulsar
That's what I mean. It's a proportion thing and 99% of MMD-like models have weird proportions that in the context of their art style look good, but in the real world are weird as fuck.
ruby burrow
The most I've ever messed with the height setting, is stuff like adding or subtracting an inch or two, just as a temporary fix for tip toeing when standing normally. But I go fix that on the avatar later, rather than keeping it.
rough pulsar
The tiptoe issue is with how looking down slightly pulls your avatar up by the head.
Find a mirror, and looking straight at it set your height so you're flat footed on the ground.
Then look at the floor, you'll go tiptoe.
ruby burrow
For some MMD models from avatar worlds, it's very common for me to find my playspace floor displaying as being a foot or more above the actual ground due to the long legs, but the view scale has still been fine.
I just end up feeling like a normally scaled torso on top of overly long legs, as is fair to expect.
vocal shard
View is fine ...
To answer your earlier question though... To set wmr floor height, we set the controller on the ground and it brings it up to the bottom of the ring
ruby burrow
Same as the others then.
haughty gazelle
Is there a way to get my name changed without having to re-earn my trust score?
stuck leaf
how to unblock
haughty gazelle
🤔
inner cape
safe prism
@haughty gazelle send an email to support@vrchat.com from your account email asking for it
safe prism
so long as you don't pull them out in public
stuck leaf
how to unblock all who blockedd
stuck leaf
hackk vrchat server and delete database of blocked of all players jk 
haughty gazelle
🤔
stuck leaf
haughty gazelle
Please crawl in a hole and stay there
stuck leaf
😑
near sky
viral yacht
Anyone know why some of my friends don’t appear on my friends list until I join their world? I know they haven’t un-friended me or blocked me, they just don’t appear until I join a world their in, then it’s fine for the rest of the session
stuck leaf
maybe update vrchat
haughty gazelle
They wouldn't see them at all if it wasn't updated
viral yacht
It’s been like this for awhile, gone through multiple updates before today and it’s still bugged. I only noticed today though a second friend it occurs with, now I’m wondering how many of them it actually happens to
grave dagger
is there a way to look at older output logs if you logged back in after someone crashed you or is there only one version that always gets overwritten?
pulsar hamlet
I think there's up to 3 at any time
grave dagger
i only see one at the specified place :/
well, hopefully the video evidence will be enough to nab him XD
fierce nymph
Anyone know a world with Rick and Morty?
pulsar hamlet
Big Al's Avatar Corridor has them
fierce nymph
Thanks
sinful forum
They ever going to add the seats back for avatars?
Be neat if they allowed us to pick other players up when ever we want, All they need to do is turn something off in the safety thing so if you didnt want to be picked up :o
tranquil perch
from what ive heard yes. Some kinks needed worked out on it
i heard ron say something before about how they were smothing out how chairs reaction motion wise
upper fox
what's better for vrchat, amd or nvidia?
vocal shard
When it come to vr, Nvidia usually has better support for vr devices
quartz osprey
Definitely nvidia as AMD offsets alot on Cpu for 2d graphical calculations (especially if it is not an AMD processor) and VRC already needs as much CPU power as it can get its hands on
vocal shard
I much prefer my Ryzen 4.1ghz 16 thread thanks.
safe prism
i'll have you know all graphics are 2d
queen mango
That doesn't sound too good, Omega
VRChat ain't known for wonderful usage of multiple cores.
vocal shard
@queen mango I've been on this app since it begun, and never had an issue once. Infact i spent half of my time in my past in discord helping others with their issues.. never coming across one i couldn't sort myself. So you could simply put it down to level of experience rather than blaming vrchat for not using multiple cores.
queen mango
I see.
Though it may be the issue of processing animations of numerous avatars in a single session
vocal shard
We tested this ages ago.. its to do with avatars on the processor in a whole yeah.. we had over 100 people to the room with avatars off, all you saw was name plates, all ran fine until avatars was re-enabled per person
and as it did so did people's processors start to raise.
I use a default avatar myself and i design maps that are not render heavy so i have no draw calls.. no shadows no reflections etc, i build maps based on my experience with source engine's gmod back in the day, and i never get issues neither have my maps that have gone public. For the most part it is aimed at each individual players specs because some are perfectly fine others complain and yet they seriously are lacking the power if they cant render my worlds.
Most of the time you can blame unity's physics engine or unity's particles not so much animations.. as if you run profiler and check you will notice that physics aka your processor does some serious work and that does cause half the issues.. mesh colliders being your worst enemy.
median basalt
@vocal shard that doesn't mean the avatars are to blame
If you have avatars turned off entirely, that means there is no IK either
And that is a pretty CPU-heavy thing
You absolutely can blame this on the game
A much fairer comparison is having a room full of people with humanoid avatars
1 material, around 8k polys
vocal shard
Im blaming it on peoples hardware or lack of.
However collider issues are a major concern.
median basalt
The hardware has plenty of capability. VRC is just using 25% of my hardware.
And frankly, this whole "it's particles" thing makes me think you don't really know what causes the most impact
Disabling particles in large lobbies will usually not even make a difference
As far as things users can control, it's 99% drawcalls and dynamic bones.
As for the things we can't control, it's the game's IK on humanoid avatars and the networking and voice.
vocal shard
All i know is your in defense 24/7 with anyone who talks against particles and avatars in a whole, and yet the test proved that its avatars what are responsible for the lag people get on a map.. the more people with avatars on the more the lag starts kicking in. However.. with a high end cpu this isnt an issue..
median basalt
Yeah but it's still the game's fault
The largest issue is in the game's IK, which users have no control over
vocal shard
Depends, if on VR or desktop
vocal shard
My fps dies in VR, but I get good fps in desktop
quartz basin
A high-end CPU for VRchat would be one core clocked to 6GHz.
rigid crescent
everyone gets good fps in desktop
median basalt
The game can only use one core effectively, that is indeed to blame on the game
rigid crescent
thats not even a discussion tbh
the reasons avatars are "to blame" is because of the way the game is. if it wasn't like that, which everyone knows is flawed, that wouldn't be an issue
quartz basin
Alot of Avatar game issues would be fixed by implementing VRM support.
north axle
The irony is rich.
median basalt
@quartz basin that is true
vocal shard
I understand your parting up IK and avatars because blaming the avatars its not so much them as an option for ik on them.. however lets not forget the assholes of vrchat that are still running more than 20k poly's people running round with a few hundred k, doesnt do anyone any favors.
median basalt
I wish they would get on that
VRM support would let them conquer a large part of the asian market too
@vocal shard see, you just proved my point
quartz basin
Polys aren't even performance hungry.
median basalt
Polycount has almost zero impact
Your "tests" are from a time when we thought 40k polys would be somewhat laggy
vocal shard
all i know is i could crash you with polly's just as much as particles.
median basalt
Maybe you should get off your high horse since you clearly keep blaming the wrong things for the performance issues.
You can crash anyone with anything.
I bet I could crash people with enough audio sources
If Unity let me
rigid crescent
you can
vocal shard
There's a reason there is a poly restriction.. and people who break it should be banned no questions.
quartz basin
I can crash you in real life by giving you a seizure attack.
rigid crescent
Omega, if everyone who breaks it was banned, the game would die. period.
median basalt
@vocal shard the poly restriction is from a time where people thought it mattered
rigid crescent
there's no getting around that. the game would be over and most likely never recover
median basalt
Materials and dynamic bone matters a lot more
The 20k limit is completely arbitrary
rigid crescent
Materials, Bones, Colliders. THese are what need to be restricted.
median basalt
Yep
rigid crescent
The poly count has very, very little impact, to a certain point obviously
vocal shard
That's entirely your opinion.. i believe that the development aspect of things would bennefit massively from having straight forward users.
median basalt
I think dynamic bones should be counted with a points system
quartz basin
Alrighty, everyone set your poly count to 20k but add atleast 200 bones to it.
rigid crescent
sounds good to me
No lag there, right?
To be honest, a lot of these un-merged skirts are looking at least 80 lol
median basalt
Every bone affected by a dynamic bone script is 1 point. +1 point for every bone that is reacting to a collider, too. Final point count is also divided by a certain value depending on the update rate. Lower update rates means more leniency
And then put like a 50 point max
Not sure how feasible that is
quartz basin
50 bones? How is that achievable?
rigid crescent
By merging bone weights...
median basalt
Because that is a ton already
vocal shard
hmm.. gives me an idea actualy..
rigid crescent
aka part of the problem
quartz basin
Have less than 50 bones
rigid crescent
The collider thing can't really be tested. In unity, you're usually not colliding
50 dynamic bones, not bone-bones
quartz basin
My skirt alone already has more~
rigid crescent
Eh, part of the problem then
haughty gazelle
anyone know why I'm suddenly getting 10 fps when I launch the game?
quartz basin
Legally abusing the system.
median basalt
Dynamic bone matters more than people think
I recently started manually weight painting the skirt to a handful of bones instead
rigid crescent
The thing is people aren't even told about how this stuff matters. Tupper can meme with you all day long about merging your bone weights, but there's very little official info about optimization, why it matters, effects, etc
vocal shard
What would happen if the bones physics were derives from using unity's ball joint? i dont even know if thats a possibility but.. might be interesting
median basalt
And it makes colliders look a lot better too
dapper stump
Specially cloth
median basalt
They actually work
quartz basin
I already had a heated discussion here about optimizing your model. It might be true and all but as long as optimization doesn't become mandatory I don't see a reason to do it
rigid crescent
Because it's thoughtful and helps users overall.
you're knowingly contributing to a problem that you can easily stop contributing to
median basalt
@vocal shard it would be less laggy
Dynamic bone is laggy, unity's physics far less so
vocal shard
I stick to making maps.. avatars are really ... well.. they need sorting out and thats why i cant be asked.
rigid crescent
The one "official" video we have on avatar creation isn't even on the main VRChat youtube (or website, as far as I glanced) so there's no way for most people to even know how/why it matters
quartz basin
Or I knowingly support the problem as protest so that the game finally improves performance-wise
median basalt
SDK should warn you about multiple meshes, materials, and dynamic bone counts.
rigid crescent
the game cant improve performance wise without a huge, unreasonable overhaul
median basalt
To set an example
rigid crescent
you're protesting a known issue that they want to fix
quartz basin
Why would the overhaul be unreasonable?
rigid crescent
Just say you're inconsiderate and don't care, it's really that simple. That's how most people are anyway
vocal shard
So ball joint rigidbody > Collision continiuos dynamic > kinematic ?
rigid crescent
Because it's basically recreating the game from scratch, as far as people have said. So all new testing, all new bugs, etc. It's starting from a little more than zero.
quartz basin
You try to teach "manners" to an anonymous crowd of anime lolis.
rigid crescent
Recently people have been a lot more aware of optimization, and my friends that make their own avatars have been at least toning down their normal avatars. No one is looking for 100% bone merging, super weight painting, single material no frill avatars
But you don't need 50 skirt bones.
twin jacinth
It's not teaching manners it's more like being a decent human being helping others and not being selfish
rigid crescent
Like I get if you wanna be selfish, but don't try to hide behind some memey cause lol just say you don't care
median basalt
My friends have started atlasing their stuff a lot more recently
Dynamic bone is still a sore point because it's a lot more work to make it look good
rigid crescent
Yeah, I went back and atlased the avatars I still use
quartz basin
Decent human beings don't play VRchat were the only "Humor" they have is screaming obnoxiously loud or telling lotsa dick jokes.
rigid crescent
there's some I don't use in large rooms obviously, but that's about it.
Shows a lot about the company you keep lol
quartz basin
Not me. I always have pretty good discussions about propaganda theories and the usual development of the economy under the rule of communism.
median basalt
I have versions of some of my avatars without dynamic bone that I'll switch to if things get laggy
vocal shard
As for manners.. im mostly always polite but i question everything in life, as you do.. not perfect but i get by lol. as for talking with meme's an all that.. i've never understood it.. and yet i come from the early 80's and been online since i was very young.. i just make for community's until they end up dying and then i leave and end up some place else.. as the story goes.
rigid crescent
Yeah, one of mine just has them toned down from 52 to like 16-ish
median basalt
Besides, merging just 50% of your skirt bones will also reduce instances of you flashing your panties if you start with the top row
Blender automatic weights is usually sufficient for skirts
umbral reef
Optimization of reallly bad models also causes lots of fixed problems funny enough most of the time
rigid crescent
I wear the JSK with way too many bones and the 32 hair bones when I'm in small rooms with people I know, and the merged one with less than half that in larger boxes and whatnot
umbral reef
I seen some insane clipping problems on avatars that could be fixed without a problem if the meshes where combines lmao
rigid crescent
Yeah, I genuinely believe they need to just get rid of cloth physics.
Just yeet that script altogether
rigid crescent
Tupper: "GUYS JOIN YOUR MESHES"
Devs: "Yeah go ahead use this thing that requires you to not join them"
I mean even used correctly, you're stilling sitting on a minimum 2 meshes and 2 colliders, assuming it's on a skirt like it usually is.
colliders that are working significantly more than they would with bones
twin jacinth
I rarely meet people who is screaming obnoxiously loud or telling lotsa dick jokes
I guess it depends on the worlds you are in but seriously, if i'd estimate the % of people who do that of people i meet i'd say maybe 10, at a max 20% which means an average of 1-2 in a lobby with 10-20 people
not a lot really but then again depends on the person
rigid crescent
on the second mesh or the total avatar?
median basalt
An avatar with cloth can still be optimized if the mesh with cloth on it is low-poly
That's what I mean
A second mesh is really just slight overhead and an extra draw call
rigid crescent
Oh, so the more low poly the cloth mesh is, the better it works. Luckily it's a tiny skirt I see them on most of the time
not that it means that it's low poly, but I'd assume it's not tragically high
median basalt
That "fullbody avatars" world is a pretty bad offender
rigid crescent
then again I've had to totally toss out an avatar with an 8k poly skirt
median basalt
Cloth, colliders and dynamic bone on everything
rigid crescent
yeah, fairly sure the hair is cloth too
median basalt
The skirt is OK on those (they're all the same damn model) but the hair is really bad
rigid crescent
I understand that cloth can be cool, but I personally think the game overall, performance wise, is better without it
but now that everyone is used to it, they're probably afraid of backlash
To actually remove it, they might be better off just giving people a month or two of warning instead of just yeeting it one day
umbral reef
Well they are not wrong- Im fairly sure we all bet that the avatar community would cry murder
rigid crescent
Yeah, it's sad how entitled they can get
umbral reef
Well- For plenty of shi they where right to get angry
But with some things... Imo not at all
rigid crescent
chairs, definitely not worth the shirtstorm lol
nor was the crouching
cloth would at least be understandable, a lot of people depend on it, especially the full body people
but avatars can look just fine with dynamic bones
quartz basin
But that would be pretty ouchy for my 125 dynamic bones, 20 material avatar
You cannot do that. That's oppression.
rigid crescent
Yeah luckily when you get used to working on avatars it's easy to tell who has way too many dynamic bones, e z avatar block
materials are probably second lowest on the lsit of things that matter though
we need a dynamic bone limit and just triple the poly limit
or whatever you max out mesh splitting at
50k isn't bad, I do want to test out a room with avatars that have jsut that some time though
ruby burrow
Can also help to knock down the refresh rate of dynamic bones to 45 fps.
Is the top frame rate most people end up at, even in smaller populations, and looks plenty smooth still.
rigid crescent
oh it's 60 isn't it?
ruby burrow
By default yes.
umbral reef
Doesnt VRC limit it to 30 by default already on upload?
ruby burrow
Does it? xD
rigid crescent
i've heard other numbers, so I'm not sure
ruby burrow
Well if so scratch what I just said then I guess.
median basalt
It's not limited to 30
rigid crescent
some transparency on stuff like this would be nice, but we can't even get a straight answer on why the avatar and friends list mess up lol
ruby burrow
Wouldn't be impossible to test that at least.
median basalt
Also what ever happened to chairs on avatars?
ruby burrow
Make an avatar with some kind of duplicated wobble stick, one set to 30 and one to 60. Then see if they separate or not.
rigid crescent
probably another thing only mentioned in passing randomly by devs in discord, like a lot of things
median basalt
Did they?
rigid crescent
nah idk
median basalt
I had a screenshot somewhere but I can't find it lol
I think it was Ron who popped in here
rigid crescent
Honestly that's the problem with giving people timelines
median basalt
People really want chairs on avatars because it'll be the first thing they do for avatar makers in a very long time
rigid crescent
i mean you're not chimping out about it, but plenty of people like to complain when things fall through.
median basalt
Yeah, it sucks but it's not like they're holding it back on purpose
quartz basin
Maybe they are.
rigid crescent
"8000 likes and we bring back chairs"
ruby burrow
I'm not super fussed about chairs, but it would certainly be a fun thing to have. I've got that shopping cart model just waiting for it.
ruby needle
Unfortunately they come with new abuse possibilities too.
median basalt
That was on the old chairs yeah
ruby burrow
In the mean time I'll continue to lament having enough time to work on all the other things I want to learn or do.
median basalt
The new ones are probably gimped to near uselessness anyway, it's not like it's anything more abusive than what we already have
ruby burrow
What were the main issues before, and what issues might still remain?
median basalt
One large issue is accidental interaction
Another issue is the bugs that were in the chairs, you could lock people in them
And break their animator too
So they would be T-posing basically
That said I hope we still get custom sitting animations
ruby burrow
Think it'd be possible to just give them the friends only treatment?
median basalt
Nah
They should be put into the trust system
Let people decide for themselves
Same with cameras IMO
There's no reason for cameras to be in their current state
Where they are only local, but you can exploit them to get them shown to friends
Have default trust settings disable chairs on non-friends for all I care though
ruby burrow
It would be nice to have those working in a way that didn't result in a dozen awkward friend requests from randoms.
median basalt
Yeah
ruby burrow
That want to see the pictures you're taking.
safe prism
dynamic bones cap to 60 and default update mode on clientside in vrc.
near saffron
Really? If so thank god
sonic verge
anyone on wanna try the dead space vr map? i havent tried it and too scared alone lol
meager solstice
It’s really good
sonic verge
thats not what i had in mind
im terrified already with dead space third person, i wanna get it done with first person but dont wanna be alone lol
umbral reef
In VR shit becomes a lot worse
north axle
Everything in VR seems super realistic until you get used to it in a couple of months.
vocal shard
We made it to the boss, but the "respawn" button is meh, cause it takes you back to the boss, but with no weapons
near saffron
Ran though a bunch of horror maps the other day with like 6 friends, struggled to find anything scary cuz of that but still laughed plenty
near saffron
No not done the dead space one
queen mango
When being jumped in Murder isn't enough... Take pleasure in being jumped out of your wits in Dead Space VR
umbral reef
Being with friends makes stuff more often an giggle fest
topaz sapphire
Hahah.
near saffron
^
queen mango
Yeah
topaz sapphire
Glad you're guys enjoying it so far!
queen mango
Big scream, then a whole lot of laughing.
When alone... Big scream, then the feeling of not wanting to go further
young sedge
wait deadspace has jumpscare?
topaz sapphire
Yes.
young sedge
ohh god cheap jumpscare
topaz sapphire
Not too many.
young sedge
I was expecting something there
topaz sapphire
It will be updated in the furture.
queen mango
How about seeing a whole mass of flesh coming at you?
topaz sapphire
xD
queen mango
And that flesh has a petrified screaming face on it?
near saffron
I’ll be fine, I beat wall of flesh on terraria
topaz sapphire
xD
topaz sapphire
What?
near saffron
Rewards were emailed i think if that’s what u mean
young sedge
I've check my mail and still nothing
topaz sapphire
Aww.
near saffron
My friend still hasn’t got his yet I believe
vocal shard
Enjoying with friends
No friends
young sedge
yeah and they said " Winners will be attempted to be notified by email and will have 10 days from notification to accept the prize. "
near saffron
I’d take the first option
topaz sapphire
Nice.
vocal shard
There is no option
young sedge
nyehhh
near saffron
oof
young sedge
im just gonna chill
vocal shard
Stating facts
umbral reef
Snipsnip- You can try t email support@vrchat.com with your VRC email acc to ask about it
near saffron
No even any vrc friends?
vocal shard
Nope
umbral reef
Well make them or buy them
vocal shard
With my anti-social skill and shyness, hard 😄
near saffron
Well if u want, add me In game cuz I’ll be probably going through a bunch of horror maps later
covert linden
I mean its an online world and if you go to places enough people will come introduce to you
vocal shard
And then anxiety hits and I back out
covert linden
Irs unlike reality in the aspect of if you get embarrassed youll likely never see them again anyway
vocal shard
I have one friend
covert linden
You can add me im Ashs
quartz basin
Congratulations. You have more friends than half the userbase.
vocal shard
yay
near saffron
Oof
vocal shard
young sedge
😄
umbral reef
Raense, feel free to add me also 
Same name as on here
covert linden
Also if you make a vrc insta you can meet tons of people
umbral reef
VRC insta?
vocal shard
I have it
covert linden
I did that assuming I was weird and id be the one and only but theres like hundreds of vrc accounts
near saffron
What that?
young sedge
instagram?
near saffron
🤔
vocal shard
Oh. Then not that
covert linden
Yeah
young sedge
myehhh 😄
vocal shard
Never been on instagram
umbral reef
covert linden
I tried it there are so many people who use it
vocal shard
Ashes?
covert linden
Ashs
vocal shard
Find nothing
umbral reef
Already out of tweets to make 
near saffron
Twatter sound very British
vocal shard
No Ashs
covert linden
But thats my username
vocal shard
just ash_Q
covert linden
Its ashs
It wont let me send the image I screenshotted but I just logged in as ashs
vocal shard
:Froghands:
near saffron
Copy the link of the pic
covert linden
Ok I will when I get outta school
near saffron
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464208122333102092/503702577699880960/image0.jpg should be a option to copy it on phone
umbral reef
Should work 
I have added and send requests to peeps from the VRC website
covert linden
Well idk where lol
vocal shard
No ashs
near saffron
Box with arrow when the pic is full screen (on iPhone at least)
near saffron
Ahhh probs different then
covert linden
Why..?
glossy wharf
Wait
vocal shard
Cause I was always when meeting new people
covert linden
Yes
glossy wharf
I want to fucking die
vocal shard
covert linden
Its amazing
vocal shard
I'm with Sai
covert linden
Its cringy but at the same time I hate life so lets just make vrc my new life
near saffron
How many shit posters are on there?
glossy wharf
and cringy
vocal shard
covert linden
I just got it yesterdayyy
covert linden
But its amazingg
umbral reef
Can we get them TikToks VRC stars?
umbral reef
👏 I own the idea
glossy wharf
also #general-media dont wanna get ruwhipped
glossy wharf
queen mango
Ruuubick is not here
glossy wharf
covert linden
Its cringy yes but its also hella funny and awesome
People make instas for imvu
I think thats worse
covert linden
Fair point
rigid crescent
@umbral reef im working on a vr tiktok lol
big meme
been lazy and never edited it together
languid beacon
The word “cringy” is annoying, it feels exclusively like a teenager thing, not old enough yet to realize life is better when you don’t care about what other people think.
covert linden
Thats very true
quartz basin
It's the nature of a human being to care what other people think of you.
Humans are social beings
languid beacon
No it’s natural to care about other people, that’s where empathy comes from. Caring what other people think of you is actually very unnatural and more less a negative quality. It’s where conceited personalities come from.
At a certain age you stop caring what the world thinks of you and you start enjoying yourself. It’s where you grow out of the emo depressive teen/edgelord years.
covert linden
I like to think of it as like yeah I could be everyones favourite I could drop my liking for anime and I could be sporty and fit in, but in this reality I truly enjoy what I do and so if I stopped liking what I enjoy then I simply wont be myself
quartz basin
If you don't care what other people think of you, you might as well be a self-centered egotiystical brat and you wouldn't know better because you don't care.
covert linden
To an extent..
languid beacon
Those types of people typically very much care what other people think of them sails
covert linden
You shouldnt alter your reality because someone said what you enjoyed was bad
languid beacon
The most self centered people have the biggest egos and are quick to anger when it’s damaged
hollow sluice
Hhhh want vr headset so bad
covert linden
Same
quartz basin
I just don't believe that there's a person out there who doesn't care at all what others think of them.
hollow sluice
I feel so useless when someone gives me pats and i just stare at them
covert linden
I think everyone cares but not everyone lets it impact them
GOSH I LOVE GETTING PATTED
quartz basin
That's another thing. Caring doesn't mean changing.
languid beacon
“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” - CS Lewis
vocal shard
i don't care what others think of me 🤷
quartz basin
And what does this say? What is chlidish? What is grown up?
quartz basin
You can only be yourself if you're Independent.
glossy wharf
@languid beacon I mean its funny how you said the word cringy is childish and then you throw out the quote that says having a fear of being childish is childish.
Yoinked yourself there buddyo
And your behavior also seems like the latter thing in said quote, the "desire to be very grown up".
languid beacon
Another good one is “Those who matter don’t mind and those who mind don’t matter”
languid beacon
The key takeaway is the irelevance of other peoples opinions about you, but only when it concerns the subject of what they think of you
covert linden
I mean he has a main point that if youre allowing people to control your actions due to sterotypes you adopted then you arent your true self
glossy wharf
The instagram quotes is strong with #vrchat-general-2 today.
covert linden
Instagram doesnt have quotes what xD
glossy wharf
Theres a ton of people posting shitty meaningless quotes on instagram
thinking they will seem smart by posting them.
languid beacon
Yeah if you care about someone’s opinion but should not let it change you, really it’s better to just disregard and not care about it in the first place, otherwise you’re just wasting brain cycles
glossy wharf
And funnily enough, quoting something about not careing what others say makes you care about what some person said
so quite frankly you care.
languid beacon
Worrying about things that are irrelevant
languid beacon
The biggest solution to my social anxiety was to realize that, from everyone else’s perspective, I’m not the center of their universe I’m just some random background dude that nobody gives a shit about
glossy wharf
Ye but not caring what others think doesnt make you smart or anything, it makes you a sociopath.
Careing about others thoughts makes you a better person in the end, as it helps you eliminate bad traits about yourself.
Obviously there will always be opinions that are hateful or whatever
but those also help you build a stronger shell and learn that theres things that should just be disregarded
languid beacon
Sociopaths very much care what other people think of them
More than most
But yes, random chat
glossy wharf
No
ivory folio
languid beacon
Blue but only if a VRChat account. Steam accounts can never upload even after blue
neon flume
I didn't even know steam accounts could get ranks! I wonder if there are trusted steam accounts out there.
languid beacon
Yeah I’ve seen a steam user already as high as known user
So probably
They probably rank slower due to getting no trust from content creation
covert linden
How do you find your rank?
languid beacon
Esc menu, top left corner below your name
covert linden
Thank yoou
languid beacon
Your tag color is whatever your profile picture is outlined as
covert linden
Ah okay
subtle prawn
Anyone in a duel world group ?
opaque hawk
Has anyone noticed the the required proximity to pickup objects in vr has shrunk? I was having a hard time picking up even rather large objects in vr last night.
vocal shard
Depends on the map
opaque hawk
Pretty much anything that was on the ground was lost forever
Well I noticed this on my own map.
“Hey I don’t remember these being so hard to pickup”
vocal shard
Using default pickup settings, I almost never can pick anything from the ground. Need the map maker set the pickup proximity larger. Are you using a different avatar?
opaque hawk
That may be the cause
languid beacon
Vrc_pickup component in unity has a proximity parameter it’s up to map makers to fill in or change from default
It’s just the case that people are learning longer ranges are better
That and it’s hard to “aim” the hands, the direction seems off
median basalt
I think the proximity parameter doesn't do anything
You need to add an additional "is trigger" collider
languid beacon
I’d like a angle of cone parameter tbh
And a priority
For when multiple things are selectable at once
leers at clues in murder
umbral nova
Lol
median basalt
I played Murder with Lakuza and he was pretty damn evil at it
First game he showed me around the house, showed me the "secret" passageway but was apparently planning to stab me there
tranquil perch
i had fun hiding the knife in my afro once
undone perch
I make a mad dash for the knife and then run to the secret room to stab the person with the gun, from there you can parkour over the balcony and stab everyone in the lobby, clean up and check on the gun every once and a while
also can you throw the knife if you have vr or does it lose it's stabbyness when thrown?
umbral reef
Secret passageway?
undone perch
Behind the painting in the gun room, the other entrance is in a closet somewhere
umbral reef
What
undone perch
take a right turn when you spawn in and then a left, it's in one of the rooms there
open the painting as you would a door
tranquil perch
the collision for the downstairs one is a bit wonky though
woven stone
The murder map would be better if the hit detection of the knife would be improved
so often you run around stabbing someone 10 times and they just keep running
OR, as long as you carry the knife you move faster, that could also do a lot due to the Killer beeing at a huge disadvantage
undone perch
Tiny player models are impossible to stab on pc
languid beacon
The knife is inert while not being held, it also inherits no velocity when let go and falls down
undone perch
you have to go prone to kill them but then you're to slow to catch them then
vocal shard
#1 issue with that map, is the 12 year olds thinking its funny to troll by reseting nonstop, etc.
undone perch
yeah, that's a problem
also, selfish people who can't stand being left out for a single round because they couldn't get to a spot in time
languid beacon
Ok I swear my phone is trolling me
You could contact the creator and make suggestions @undone perch
When VRChat battle royalle
median basalt
I'm pretty sure the closet is supposed to be one-way
I play that game with friends only anyway
I'll accept resets if the game fails to spawn them in though
woven stone
Friends+ murder game mostly
well just tell people to not use tiny player models
but imo, the knife needs some kind of "buff" atm the easiest way to win is just to camp a corner with the gun and kill everyone who dares to come close
rough pulsar
Maybe have a penalty for killing bystanders
woven stone
Due to beeing able to shoot through walls its also impossible to corner cut.
It does feel satisfying as hell to win as Killer
but its really hard
atm you drop the gun when you kill someone innocent
but you can insta pick it up again
rough pulsar
Ah, that explains that then.
woven stone
Is it possible to drop the gun and make it unavailable for the person that shot someone innocent ? 🤔
umbral reef
But the shooting is fairly easy to do-
Its all about getting a staight* line and not having dumb players with you
woven stone
Thats what I mean, shooting is really easy, while stabbing is REALLY hard.
north axle
Are you talking about Murder?
woven stone
yes
Great game with lots of potential
or maybe put some alternative killing methods in the game
like levers only the Killer can pull?
north axle
Solution: replace the knife with a ~Jedi~ lightsaber.
umbral nova
yuH
rough pulsar
I wonder how the game would change if anyone could pick up the guns or knives, but only the killer can use the knife.
woven stone
"Why do you have a knife"
rigid crescent
Murderer shooting everyone one by one
rigid crescent
More than they do now lol
umbral reef
Murdered being able to get a gun also would be dope af
woven stone
but it only works sometimes
rigid crescent
Yeah I've been trying to do it but can never get the throw right in the heat of the moment
umbral reef
Would make anyone but the detective random murdering way more suspisios
languid beacon
I’ve never been killed by a unheld knife
I can’t even seem to throw it it just falls straight down
undone perch
Drop it off of the railing and kill someone standing outside of the closet
covert linden
LOL
junior root
Good afternoon
uncut trail
How you guys deal with jelousy in vrc like relationship wise
languid beacon
Block feature
uncut trail
Really ? Why
languid beacon
No time for that
uncut trail
SIGH
covert linden
Whys there jealousy
Actually I can relate bc my rl boyfriend gets jealous of vr guys
But sucks to suck
rigid crescent
damn sick burn
covert linden
Nah its just if he wont play I aint gonna play alone xD
rigid crescent
but yeah honestly if you're jealous or they're jealous then one of you has some trust issues
not you, the other dude
The amount of cheating in VR involving both IRL relationships and VR ones is interesting :3
covert linden
Yeah definately
vocal shard
Hey how is everyone?
vocal shard
I accepted
junior root
Getting ready to head to AKC
covert linden
Whats akc
vocal shard
I am good just at work, new to vrchat just got a rift this past weekend
vocal shard
I got a Razor laptop seems to do pretty well, I am use to Apple
covert linden
I would get a razor but everyone here got on me.just to get a pc xD since ive got a laptop
I hope you enjoy the switch because apple is meh
Ehhh
vocal shard
I still use my MacBook Pro everyday things 😋
I can understand why people do not use Mac for gaming
Saw the convo before some little kid last night kept resetting the Murder game
covert linden
I just get mad when im told mac is best for animating and editing when the main program I use cant even be accessed on mac
Omg murded
Murder
I like going in the closet of murder and being like 7 seconds of heaven come in
covert linden
Thats so annoying
languid beacon
I don’t consider VRChat real/cheating. Then again I don’t have a gf getting touched in vr
covert linden
Idk I think you can xheat on vr to an EXTENT
vocal shard
Yea the closets are getting some action 🤣
covert linden
Being pet or hugged isnt cheating
But if you actually start texting and fall in love
languid beacon
I have personal space turned on ✌️
vocal shard
Lol
languid beacon
Didn’t know until VRChat that I have mirror touch synthesia and actually feel that stuff
covert linden
Woah thats awesome
vocal shard
phantom touch
rough pulsar
@languid beacon Haha! Another synesthete in VRChat
Most of mine are sound-based but I have a weird form of mirror-touch too.
covert linden
I wish, I feel it when its on vr though
vocal shard
i don't feel anything, feelsbadman.
I noticed a lot of people pet each other on chat
hearty wyvern
You can force that stuff if you separate your mind from reality.
vocal shard
hearty wyvern
You gotta forget you have a physical body. Easy to do when your avatar proportions are almost odentical to your own.
Then just push the thought of ohysical touch out of your mind and believe in the virtual limbs you now control. Also scuffed tracking can bring you out of it.
languid beacon
I wish I had the colors thing or anything visual but no I just feel what I see see it works out for VRChat
covert linden
I dont have vr just a screen and I still feel it
hearty wyvern
Mind over mattet kinda thing.
rough pulsar
@languid beacon You can get somewhere near with Rez Infinite, which has a damn good VR mode.
vocal shard
What about the vr suits? Are those available yet that you can feel things?
hearty wyvern
@languid beacon you can feel the heat from good HMD fire
rough pulsar
There's some in development/early production but not much supports them yet.
covert linden
You could just go outside and watch a video of a fireee and not be coldd
hearty wyvern
You could start a fire in VR, and also real life at the same time.
In your room
Works, I tried it.
I miss my house.
covert linden
I dont think I have that but I wishhh, I just feel being pet
Basically anything around my heaad
vocal shard
Once those suits come readily available no one will want to leave their house
covert linden
True
hearty wyvern
Will there be legs and hip extensions to the suit?
covert linden
Appearntly being shot in the game only feels like being hit with a tennisball thrown by a toddler
vocal shard
I am sure the adult industry will be funding the suits
languid beacon
I mean MOST people get the phantom touch from being pet when looking at yourself in a mirror right? That’s not just me that’s normal right
rough pulsar
In VR, yeah that's fairly common. It's your brain trying to fill in the blanks.
rough pulsar
The intensity of the sensation varies of course
languid beacon
Well I actually feel it, to the point where I had to take my headset off and check the first time
languid beacon
Only with a mirror is it that strong
hearty wyvern
I get it when I'm dancing. Usually hurts my hand cuz its almost like i really hit a wall or something.
rough pulsar
The key difference between VR-induced sensations and what Adeon and I have, synesthesia, is synesthesia doesn't change much (if at all) over time, even long times like years.
languid beacon
That was my reason for buying a rift the very next day and I’ve been here ever since lol
vocal shard
can you give me some of that synesthesia ? thanks
hearty wyvern
I bet its actually more of a curse than you think. People like to randomly pet everyone and stuff 
Id get annoyed if it felt like peoole were brushing past me or touching my head all the time tbh
rough pulsar
@vocal shard There's a few methods that can temporarily cause synesthetic states. The only one of which I can suggest even attempting is meditation, and that will take you years of practice unless you're insanely gifted.
languid beacon
I thought it was common and that is why everyone is always in front of mirrors but apparently it’s not ?
I wanna believe anyone can feel it to some extent
vocal shard
yeah, i guess im fucked
undone perch
Wait, like the mirrors in VR chat or actual mirrors
vocal shard
mirror in vrchat
rough pulsar
@languid beacon Worth testing is see if you get the same effects out of VR as you do in VR. If not then something weird is going on :O
vocal shard
magic
languid beacon
There also that rainy cave world I felt wet and cold just from the sound and visual
vocal shard
that's a bit extreme honestly
undone perch
play a paintball world
languid beacon
That’s about it
Not many other cases
The chair: sightlines had some hot fire in it
Other than that it only happens in the specific case of being front of a mirror and someone behindish touches my avie I feel it without fail lol
undone perch
but just image super extreme cases you could play paintball for free and actually feel like it's paintball because that would be incredible
hearty wyvern
Play steel and gold. Extreme Phantom touch literally just kills you with a heart attack when u get shot. Feelsbadman
undone perch
On no the sauce
languid beacon
I feel nothing when I get shot in murder
woven stone
where is the folder for the VRC cache located?
Didn't you used to have to delete that from time to time?
languid beacon
I think I have to have experienced it before
umbral nova
Adeon funny thing is
languid beacon
To feel it in vr
umbral nova
I think when you get shot in real life
It takes a bit for you to realize
"Hey I just got shot"
umbral nova
Yea true
undone perch
But dreams where you fall from a high place your brain knows exactly what it's like
and I always woke up just as I hit the ground and I would feel the thud, which I also should not know what that feels like
languid beacon
Too many memories of getting shot and dying in games being harmless
undone perch
oh yeah, that probably does affect it
easy solution:
go play real paintball
or airsoft
umbral nova
LOL
Also like uhh
Yea playing a ton of games, getting shot, and not feeling anything
That'll like get you used to the sound of a gunshot
languid beacon
I think falling is natural instinct everyone’s gonna feel their stomach flip from falling
small wing
oh. my. god.
guys
look what vrchat retweeted https://twitter.com/_ShadowForest/status/1057068687256039424
im geeking out
so hard
vocal shard
people made doom
small wing
this is nuts, guy literally recreated minecraft classic creative mode.
undone perch
Free games in VR chat
undone perch
OH HELL YEAH IMAGINE SIX SIEGE WITH THIS
small wing
i wanna play that rn
cold talon
six siege 
small wing
@undone perch someone is apparently working on a battle royale
i can find the tweet
1 sec
umbral oracle
If you want more content like this please upvote https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/graphicsblit-scripts
small wing
@undone perch https://twitter.com/Shizzuie/status/1051254486969307137
minecraft battle royale lmao
@umbral oracle already upvoted that last week lol
its worth the attention. better performance too if that gets implemented.
undone perch
THATS NOT MINECRAFT BATTLE ROYAL THATS THE GMOD TTT MINECRAFT MAP OH MY GOD
undone perch
ITS A GAME INSIDE A GAME INSIDE A GAME INSIDE A GAME
umbral nova
When the mute icon appears
languid beacon
I have no idea how people are doing this without manual coding
umbral nova
The world's shading slightly changes.
umbral oracle
Yes, the game is rendered on top of the screen using a shader. What you see outside is a static panosphere for ambience
umbral nova
The Minecraft one
undone perch
I wonder if the lag will be worse than actual minecraft or not
not lag but you know what I mean
umbral oracle
No, shaders are incredibly fast, even with having to use double cameras every frame because of no Graphics.Blit
languid beacon
Ah I see coding entire game in a shader rather than in the game
small wing
@umbral nova Its because the entire map is made by a shader
no actual geometry is used
undone perch
Roll you don't have to ping people whenever you want to say something
but I mean you do you I guess
small wing
🤔
undone perch
just please don't ping me
umbral nova
So the mute icon messes with the map's shading somehow?
small wing
Yeah, i assume so.
Thats why they are using noclip also i assume
but at the end of the video you see him open his social tab if you are worried that he is just cheekily overlaying minecraft gameplay
that of which would require some serious editing to mimic or even modding minecraft to begin with. blue and green doesn't play too well with chroma key either with transparency.
so i assume its real. I hope it gets released soon.
umbral nova
Oh I saw that one
That part is real definitely
But I'm curious if the part where he was building is real
small wing
Yep
undone perch
also the block breaking is off just a bit
vocal shard
heyo
umbral nova
I know it's possible yea
Just the fact that it changed shading is making me skeptical.
small wing
The breaking is just a callback to the shader based on raycasting i assume.
not hard to code.
small wing
I dont even know either tbh.
it just seems likely that its possible at this point.
i hope so
brave walrus
I been to the minecraft map it's pretty good, it's converted from this https://www.shadertoy.com/view/MtcGDH
umbral nova
Error.MDL made an arcade machine using shaders... As an avatar
small wing
W H A T
tacit plank
A bit late to say this, but Minecraft battle royale is not a new concept, I did that shit in like 2011
umbral nova
Yea lol
umbral nova
OH is that what makes him move?
small wing
@brave walrus the fact that its a shader toy makes it even more amazing
I always wanted to learn to convert them, but never found a resource for tutorials.
brave walrus
A quick google search can you started if you wanna do it manually. A lot of people use shaderman, it works but it performs poorly.
small wing
Google must hate me then. 🤔