#vrchat-general-2
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I love the pug. Pug is great. It's the best enviornment to really get someone to show their true colors if you strike them the wrong way
They just seem more comfortable to be hostile at a bar, than a box room
I mean I'm just honest about a lot of things. If you like say I'm annoying, I'm gonna 100% agree with you, laugh it off, and then promptly get blocked by you
The best way to expose every asshole in vrchat, is be a knuckles model but act as you normally would. No memes just you casually talking in a knuckles model
Its fool proof. Quite literally
I also love how really offended some people get if I mute them as a knuckles
ah yes modelism. Knuckles I'd give a chance but never a Leprechaun. Never in my life have I met anyone who used the Leprechaun model who wasn't some kind of extreme weirdo
I mean either way the whole thing with the Knuckles left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. Sure, I don't really mind if people use a Knuckles avatar, but if they go around clicking or whatever, I'll know they're just trying to beat a dead horse into the ground. Besides, I know there legitimately are people who still use Knuckles unironically... And then there's @fringe cairn who embraces the Knuckles meme but makes amazing avatars with them. No one can be mad at him LOL
The worst thing with that Leprechaun model, is that the sodding avatar descriptor is buried somewhere two feet deep into it's skull.
oh my god yes, and they have to stand like right in your breathing space to look at you
On every avatar
Meaning anyone that wears it can't tell how close they are, and always end up trying to shove that giant nose down your throat.
It's terrifying.
People are 100% guilty if they act like an asshole to me as a knuckles model. None of this "oh its left a bad taste in their mouth", i could make the same argument about kannas and kanna gang
I have a joke in my home world where that Leprechaun is on one of the avatar pedestals and when you hover over it, the tooltip just says "The one literally every Russian uses"
Now I know that's kind of wrongish to say or whatever
But you can't say you don't se a ton of Russians in that.
I can't say I really react too differently to a lone knuckles. They're rare these days. Half the time it's just some kid who's really late to the party and has no idea.
Without their numbers and the mob mentality that grows from it, they're harmless.
I have vr too and i still get shit on
There's also Mr Brunswick. Has a knuckles for a head, but is a class act.
Can I point out by the way that the Knuckles model in the Uganda world has no IK? I have no idea why the person who I'm sure just shoved it into Mixamo or something didn't decide to at least give it dummy finger bones.
I haven't met Mr Brunswick
Slap it into Blender, give it like 3 bones for each hand
The sliding thing always pissed me off
Boom done
I use dummy bones for a lot of Pokemon models honestly
I'll use Lurantis as an example if you know what it is
I never watched or played pokemon
Oh uhh
Well
Idk, like maybe look up what Lurantis is I guess
At least what it looks like
I see it yeah
So yea
That thing, to get IK, I have an interesting setup for that thing
It originally had no shoulder bones, so I just created some and made them REALLY tiny
Hell yeah
There's an Arm, forearm, wrist, and then what the skeleton classifies as a "finger" bone
So that's literally what I did. Used it as an index finger. Then I made it a dummy Thumb and Middle Finger.
I also made its hips thinner but shhhh
Its legs were like, really far apart
Not like it flew off the model or anything
I just didn't like how separated they were.
who wot?
I've seen a waifu version of king ghidorah.
Stop
Isn't he.... NYAA?
Wai... fuu...?
Hah, you wouldn't like a friend of mine then. He makes Hoppou versions of all the different Godzilla monsters.
Also some Monster Hunter monsters.
how many of you guys 3d modelled your own characters?
I made a Pokemon Trainer that looked like Shulk from Xenoblade honestly
Very few,Yikes, most likely.
Why? Because I was bored to death.
lol
I had to make my own recon helmet that looked exactly like halo 5's version
Everyone was using halo 4's version
Well, it's okay if it is Hoppou, but a waifu Ghidorah?
Uhh... I don't know how to feel about that
And if you could tell by my Discord icon, I do make Pokemon trainer models when I feel like it
Depending on whether you mean truly modelled from scratch, or just reworking existing assets.
I just rework existing assets, like
All the time
Never made a single polygon in my life 
Yeah mine was a rework
There was like maybe 8 small differences that oddly mattered to me
Still a lot of room for skilful work when it comes to merging and customising models, but yeah, true scratch made is very rare.
I mean true^
The most common scratch made stuff is stuff like simple textureless robots, or vaguely humanoid semi abstract forms.
Though I may just be merging parts, actually knowing how to put together Pokemon Trainer parts takes a bit of knowledge, not to mention you're gonna have to texture the things yourself.
They come in as white palette bases
I hate that too 😩
I mean I've gotten used to it
I have like 7 or 8 trainer models uploaded to my account, and I've made like 6 for other people as well
Basically it's like
Assembling a TDA model
But you have to actually color on it
If that makes sense
I had to retexture a high poly zero mech dude from infinity blade
That was... pure... aids
Sounds bad
Though I have the luxury of having color masks
Not many people really think about using those for custom trainers
Or rather
I've only seen like 3 other people who even did something
They didn't use the masks though
LOL
Boom instantly trusted user
Gn
Good night.
Wait... Infinity Blade? Thought no-one else in the Discord knew of the gane
I made a nerf dart from scratch. Pro 3D modeler here.
I ported a lot of models from the game in early feburary
The ones from models resource had absolutely no finger bones and i was really lazy so i just did the exporting myself
Zero mech, the father character, the jester, the god king was my first models ever, and it was beast as hell
Infinity blade 3 really dropped the bar so low sadly, its now a forgotten series of games and people only remember the first and kinda the second one
Second game's the strongest one. And probably the only mobile game to get a nomination in a video game award ceremony
And by God King, you mean Raidriar?
The player TomokiRey was dropping empty world portals on people making people lose connection
he was a new user as well so it dont surprise me that they were using a hacked client
cause am fairly sure you cant drop empty let alone actual portals on people
if you have it recorded you can use that to report them, check #moderation-reports
i dont have it recorded but i have 3 friends that had it happen to them as well

TomokiRey has me blocked already :((
Why?
any clue if there going to fix the memory leak i got over 11 million and with that a'lot of lag and Fram Rate drop.
Thinks I'm a potential crasher probably
@vocal shard can you dm me about that, i would love to get a sword from there
Settings -> Sound Effects.
Where can I find the hub that they used to use a few months back?
Virtual Week-ality has a portal to the old new hub.
Don't confuse with the New Old Hub.
Is there a way to disable all the bright flashing in the pug?
One of the most popular maps is intended to have an epilepsy feature that can't be disabled, got it
yes
Not sure if the flashing is intended, I only notice it on avatars with buggy geometry/shaders
i only saw those flashing lights in maps with an extremely huge bloom
I see it in Nier a lot
No I mean the new halloween pug that has large flashing bars syncronized to music
Ohh, I haven't been there yet
Svelsien and I thought you meant bloom artifacts
Like you'll see a person in the distance and he'll just randomly emit flashes across your screen
I have never seen that happen in the Pug personally so I'm guessing the bloom settings are actually good in the Pug
Unfortunately it isn't always preventable
some shaders intended for particle can cause that
Is using a VPN against the rules in VRChat?
depend for what
no its not
I stream on twitch and I am pretty sure I have beeen Ddos'ed and couldnt get my stream back up until I changed locations with my vpn.
If its to break other rules- Yes ofcours it is
If its for normal use and to just play the game- Nah, they got no way to really track it anyway
Change your IP by resetting your router or calling your ISP next time- Also works
But i suggest you always use an VPN if you can because privacy reasons
The only reason why I ask if its against the rules is because I was temp ban for ban evasion and never received any ban before. So I was wondering why I was banned. I emailed the mods and support. I received a reply this morning asking if I use a VPN.
A lot of VPNs are easily detectable, due to the IPs being listed for known servers, pretty often, really depends on how well known your provider is
^^ the reason why free vpn's are not safe and should not be trusted...
Does this mean you're still banned in VRChat?
Did you by any chance have had someone upload something for you?
I still want to know why tho
Technically, any ban is temporary.
Not really... You know permanent bans?
VRChat never added permanent bans, they just ban people for a ridiculously long period of time.
I thought the 4 year thing was just placeholder they never bothered to change and was actually a permaban
Arent they server side permanent and client side 4 years?
Aka still permanent just not displayed right
Probably, yeah. Some people might still come back in 4 years.
Actually, they should've changed it to 10.
I'll tell you why.
No telling what VRChat will be like in 4 years
Because of this meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW8FLxZRE0k
@floral aspen The oasis
Oh ho ho.
Yeah I wish
No.
Maybe in 20+ years
tfw no birthmark redhead vr gf
You know the Oasis actually launched in 2025. We don't know what it looked like at launch or how it changed over the 20 years until RPO happened. Maybe we might have a rudimentary Oasis like vr social app by 2025, who knows
Rpo irl... pog
Maybe we'll have Knuckles controllers by then
Lol let's not get too outrageous here
VRChat will never become the OASIS as long as they're not going to add these things:
- custom scripting;
- in-app content creation (no Blender or Unity);
- in-game economy;
- open world;
- PVP/PVE all over the metaverse;
- commercial activity;
- voice and video calls;
- language filters;
- in-app voice changers;
- easy access to custom avatars;
- player groups;
- inventories;
- props;
- achievements;
- multicore support;
- facial recognition;
- web panels;
- hand colliders;
- mailbox system;
- automated world ranking;
- highly improved performance;
- ability to use anything mentioned above without any third-party software.
Language filters were in the OASIS.
easy access to custom avatars
to be quite honest it's easier than most games
Steam workshop implementation tho 🤔
Why do peopel always ask for steam workshop which is a offline content manager, while this game doesnt have the content offline.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Because people want a more legit way to share content that isn’t just pedestals
I assume
Or the site that shall not be named
Also people can’t or choose not to learn unity
They can't complain if they don't choose to
I hope that we'll get a official exchange platform on the website at some point that is integrated with the game so that you can direct import.
@ruby needle I dunno, if all avatar worlds were combined into one I guess workshop wouldn't serve much purpose
Or something like that.
He's been typing for awhile now.
Custom scripting used to be a feature a few years ago.
In-app content creation is hard, but Neos VR already does that.
In-game economy is easy, take WoW for example. Also, Ron used to work for Blizzard when they started making WoW.
Open world is the biggest issue it really depends on the engine. Eventually, this might become doable.
PVP/PVE: same as in-game economy.
Commercial activity: they'd need to build as many partnerships as possible with schools, companies, the government, etc. Just like in RPO.
Voice and video calls are definitely possible.
Language filters is something that needs to get worked in the near future.
In-app voice changers aren't as hard to add as you'd think.
Easy access to custom avatars is simple too, especially if you gain ability to create them in VRChat.
Player groups: same as other stuff mentioned in regards to WoW.
Inventories: WoW.
Props: Garry's Mod obviously has it, no big deal.
Achievements. Yeah, actually, no, you're right, maybe that's impossible to add to a Steam game.
Multicore support is going to be hard, but not impossible. They'll definitely need it if they want to upgrade to new Unity versions.
Facial recognition is possible with the right tech, eye trackers would play a big role in this.
Mailbox system is already implemented but they're not allowing players to use.
Automated world ranking is something they've been working on for a very long time, as far as I heard.
Highly improved performance requires tons of optimization updates.
Finally, producing content without any third-party software is a challenging thing to add as a feature, but it is possible.
Is that the bible
No, too hard for little benifits, why, what, why, uncontrollable, just join them, what, please god no, avatar worlds, sure, yes, yes, why, doesn't make sense to me, sure, because it's unfinished, sure, and pick optimisation or the features, but only pick 1 and have fun.
Mobile btw.
No. No. No. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
🤦
Those aren't random.
But they don't make sense!
I answered, "Yes," only to those responses I can agree with.
"Why?", "Yes"
Allo
@north axle Why did you change your name.. still least i can recognise your picture.. never change it. I dont want to be confused and alone.
Jokes on you, I did change the picture.
I thought my name would look better in different color.
That's the same picture you have always had.. unless the jokes on you and you don't realise lol
or he changed it in a very small way
well this pic is so small it would be hard to notice a change that small i guess 😛
I used to wear blue suit on it.
I could easily say im color blind.. but nah.. i didnt know 😃
You always remind me of a Final fantasy VII character for some reason..
Did they have suits in FFVII?
Those who worked for shinra did yes.
Oh yeah, I see.
is it against TOS to play on more than 1 account?
Only if you're banned.
Having multiple accounts is fine.
A lot of people tend to have extra accounts for recording and such.
Pun demon you're simplifying things
The other companies you names has had bigger budgets, and they've also have loads of issues with their features
In gmod, if you spawn 3 chairs within about 100ms, the server will die. That's how impressive the game engine is
All I'm saying is, VRChat can't afford becoming the OASIS.
If some other game manages to pull it off faster than VRChat, I'll switch to a different game/app in no time, but we can't be certain of anything at this point.
Same
VRChat has a lot of potential, but potential doesn't mean anything if they don't take advantage of that
It's anyone's game for now for who it'll be that takes the VR crown. VRChat is just the best example of making people say the words "Ready Player One" and "Oasis" for now.
VRChat does have a bit of a head start with user created content though. The community has learned and set themselves up to work with unity and VRChat's SDK which is a bit of a time investment into the platform. Unless a potential competitor uses similar workflows, toolkits, or has a drastically simpler way of creating content I think VRChat will have a good chance of keeping their lead. Improved SDK functionality like through Udon would just further that kind of platform lock in.
One of vrchat's biggest pluses is the ability to use almost any outside model. That is something that other games with built in character creators can't really compete against imo
I feel like that's going to become the norm.
Honestly, now that I'm used to it, I don't have anything against user-generated content, even though I find the fact that over 80% of VRC avatars are anime characters absolutely disgusting. What bothers me instead is that there's no transparency on what's inside developers' heads.
I find the fact that other 20% of avatars are not anime absolutely disgusting 😂
Then why not call it AnimeChat?
Anime faces are so much easier to make holy shit.
I would've enjoyed some cartoon styles from different shows though. Like that French animation Wakfu. That style is beast.
Yeah, sadly, not as many people are interested in making something original. In my opinion, anime isn't the problem. I mean, I don't like the majority of anime as much as many others, but the big reason behind this is either lack of imagination, or lack of good taste, which is why we have to deal with 50% of avatars looking almost exactly the same but with different assets.
Convenience also plays a big part. Most people with the skill to make stuff like this, usually has bills to pay and/or places to be.
right now mine is some ghost coyote thing I found in a world since ghosts are spooky and it's less than a week to halloween
I’ve used the same base model since I started vrc, probably won’t ever change either
Just consider a possibility that VRChat will resign from being a non-profitable organization and start something that would bring profit so we'll have to get rid of all copyrighted content.
The best thing about VRChat is custom worlds and avatars
Actually you would not have to because it is UGC
Companies are little bitches who're scared of anything user created. They will rather limit functionality than give users power over anything.
VRChat is different
People would definitely make cheap anime models for people to get access to for like, $5.
So I 100% don't see anime ever disappearing.
VRChat literally gives the users max freedom
if you can put it in Unity you can almost certainly put it in VRChat
I think it's more the problem that making original stuff is ballshard and not everyone wants to spend money
When I asked what's the main reason why they don't make any profit with VRC, someone said it's because of copyrighted stuff.
(if it's sfw, obviously)
Also that's not how copyright works
Just saying what I was told.
Asking as they do not directly claim or sell the copyrighted materials they are ayowkay
Else yt can't excist
Twitch could not and so on
Workshop stuff on steam have copyrighted stuff, it even should not be problem on consoles
@odd lava those are technically against the rules
But the content owner has to put in a claim for it to be removed
What often doesn't happen as well... It's hard to find
Why is my vrchat friends list and server favourites empty after being gone for a while?
this really sucks... i made so many friends and i dont have them on discord.....
its not a connection issue.. i reconnected many times and my friends dont show up as my friends anymore... this is kinda bad for a social game

@steady kayak Send an email to support@vrchat.com, they'll take a look
ok avatars are gone too
Oh wow it's the owner of VRChat himself.
🅱upper
why did you leave?
I dont know if I did
Personally, I don't think you got kicked.
how can you not know if you left by yourself ?
But that is my personal opinion based on nothing I could share with you.
I just disappeared from the discord after put my phone on my clip holder lol
When exactly did you "disappear" from this server?
Like 5-10 mins ago after I posted a question to the admins about something to do with promoting vrchat through my website
Ah, yeah, if you pinged an admin and there was no emergency, you definitely got kicked.
As someone that's promoting or wanting to promote something I need to have permission
If you use pings the way you're not meant to, and not following the rules, then it makes total sense.
-_- wow
Rule 23, to be exact.
Again just wow
But what ever.
it's not a shocking rule
admins don't want to be pinged for stuff that doesn't need their immediate attention
don't get all mad that a rule like that exists in a server with literally thousands of users
This Discord is not just a regular chatroom.
Probably after it became necessary. The last rules in a rule list is usually added by necessity. Dunno when it was though.
you probably don't need permission for that anyways
it's not a sponsor, it's just you saying you like the game and others should play it
he doe
sif he want to promote anything
there is a #shameless-self-promotion for streams usually
Ok and again asking premissions to promote the game via new website
Yeah.
And that's where I asked them at
but you pinged them for non-emergency apparently
The right place, but it was just the ping that got 'em irked.
is currently the mirror broken? sometimes, depends on the avatar, the mirrors have weird effects on it
Or, if you have Speech: 100, you can slide your links into casual conversations in #general-media. But this secret technique requires more than that.
and if you fail it can usually result in a kick or warning
Make them ask for your stream. Make them crave your stream!
Streams are different.
If it's not a meme or video that's just a couple minutes long, promoting it may be harder.
Also, yeah, playing the "succeed or get kicked" game reminds me of a regular The Elder Scrolls experience when you have to talk to a guard.
I think so?
Depends more on u tbh.
Might have to hide avatars here & there, but its doable
My 1060 3gb is fine for vr most of the time
My 1070ti struggles at times, due to how shitty some avatars are
More cpu than gpu gets used anyway
Yeah, & I got a Ryzen, so thats another reason
VRChat is so unoptimized you may not have to worry about it.
I wonder if the new steam vr update will drop those requirements significantly though
it's in beta atm
it's called motion smoothing and lets the game synthesize 2-3 frames per frame, so it's a bit better than even asynchronous reprojection
There plenty of low end gpu you can use with vrc alot of amd gpu
But it's not recommended
Ooof i've just met someone who is totally invisible and i can't even find him in the lobby and he most likely crashed me
No idea how he managed to do that as i have security on as well
Can hear him talk but he has no nameplate and don't show up in the lobby social tab either
modded client doesnt care about your security
Ooof
send logs to #moderation-reports
Yeah i will do
get this clown banned
i wonder if he even appears in log tbh
if he can talk to people he should
Definitely.
If you block someone or get blocked, the socials tab is the only way of knowing if they're there
I wonder if there's a canny post about the notifications having an optional sound
because that's the downside to playing with no HUD. You don't know if you got an invite or friend request or vote kick shows up.
Nothing annoying hopefully
Hmm... good idea. And it'd be better if you can customize the notification sound
Like the phone notification sounds.
Sending report now, first time i'm actually doing it but this guy needs to get out xD
did the guy sound French by any chance?
A Frenchman with a modded client? That's pretty much unheard of
@vocal shard whats with the mass removal?
Electric Sands Festival is now open. I hope you all enjoy it.
@tough trench
15. No posting the same question or statement across multiple channels
Sorry my bad
Doing what?
Holy shit they answered within 27 mins that they are investigating
I also ranked up now o.O
weird.
Known User
Played like 400 hours on Steam before switching over to VRC and i have like 300 hours on my vrc account i think 🤔
I've been blocked by 35 people, so I'm not sure how long it'll take me to get to Known User, wew
Probobaly Lieutenant by now.
known user will only 300 hours ? i see.
Tallying results now. Will have the winners of Halloween contest to announce soon.
you going to make a big announcement about it ? also will we see the real name of the judges ?
i wanna judge them myself.
@twin jacinth pan diman speculated that reporting people may help you rise your rank. Guess that's true then.
@vocal shard I got known at around 150 hours. No AFKing though. That makes a huge difference. I just close the game out when I’m not wearing the headset
Actually less maybe around 110
i'm known user
Yeah Svelsien i'd estimate somewhere bewteen 250-350 hours to be more exact though i'm not 100% sure as i didn't keep track off it
I have uploaded 2 avatars and 1 world.
I’m picky about afking ruining my steam stats lol
🤷
Eh I don’t need trusted I only hang about with friends mostly
I am a user but i barely played 
well i do have 700 hours overall and played for a year as well but since i've changed accounts that does not count
i also thought 300 hours was a bit short on Known user but might be because of reports yeah
reported a few people recently
I plan to do some stencil stuff once everyone can see it
Visual portals and non-Euclidean spaces is my jam
Trying to nail seamless portals for worlds
i kinda gave up on making anything tbh
i only make models
but particle and shader stuff ? nah.
Shaders are cool but I need to get better at math
Trigonometry and shit
Thanks to Lyuma and Dj Lukis I got a pretty good "project quad between two hands" effect going
But I skipped the math and kinda "cheated" the other two corners which leads to a lesser result
I’m the opposite I have the math down I just don’t know glsl
Or whatever the heck you call the shader code. I just mod shader code stuff. Can’t write one from scratch
I love vrc though I have learned more blender and unity since joining than I have for the last 11 years
No intention of stopping
Everyone starts out just modifying existing shaders
It's what makes stencils so easy, and yet also pretty damn neat
Writing shaders from scratch is just a matter of getting things to "click"
Clicks are nice

it's for glsl so there's some differences, but it's the best book for starting out
saved
What is unity’s shader code called?
Cg/HLSL/Shaderlab
Thanks
It's astounding how many things Unity does for you
yes, that's the Shaderlab part, all of Unity's helper functions
and the Shader > Subshader > Pass format
it all really clicks when you understand that everything is pretty much stored in vectors
I started actually understanding shaders when I did my own geometry thing and realized the order in which the functions are called
Don't know jack about surface shaders or node shading though
But I heard surface is only worth learning for PBR shaders like Standard
oh yeah understanding how the functions pass the info is important too
surface shaders just takes a lot of overhead off
you only really need to focus on the surface function unless you want to add things
I know proper languages like c++ and java so I can read the code itself and follow function calls. It’s just a matter of getting off my butt and learning shader terminology the whole rendering process is all new to me. Dragging my feet a bit lol
what gets called when
See, that diagram is something I would have liked to see at the start of my shader development efforts lol
i swear to god amma strangle the "the great pug" creator
i'd just say start with surface shaders to get your feet wet
i get so much connection issues on that damn world
I don't get connection issues in the Pug

Haven't tried it during halloween yet
So much shit added tbh
don't worry too much about vertex/frag/geometry etc till later
i dont get connection issues on any other world but the Pug

its existed for 2 years
just kept on being added and added no fresh copy and has the cheek to say "use optimised characters"

that's my vent
Surface?
yeah
one thing to remember though is that a surface shader is not a real thing, it's unity shorthand that generates a vertex and fragment shaders under the hood
imo anyways
surface is pretty like frag since you don't really need to set anything up with the vertices and such
a surface shader is a shader where unity does all the lighting and material stuff for you and you can mess with the material a little
in a fragment shader you will have to do all of that yourself
i don't think i've ever touched a surface shader, always just did the vertex/geom/frag shaders by hand
you can also set up a vert function and such, but at that point might as well do a vert/frag shader
if you want unity lighting, you pretty much need to do a surface shader
nah, there's a bunch of nice lighting functions in unity cgincs
or write 16 differen fragment shaders yourself each time for different lighting modes
wish they had more documentation on library functions tho, there's a lot of stuff you have to just dig through unity source code for
yeah half of the helpers are not in any manual
Probably will take a online class on it
looking at the sources for standard and legacy shaders is not really very enlightening
they're a mess
oof
Algum BR?
udemy has a pretty nice shader lesson, explains how normals and uv's work rather than just glossing over it
I tried helping a friend with modifying the terrain shader
It's a huge mess
Like wtf
terrain is a huge mess, they never figured out how to do proper sorting
and the billboards are useless in vr
I mean at least they don’t roll
I was wondering if there was a way to fix them for VR my world uses a ton of terrain plants
not have them face the camera
Im from EU, is there any way to like reduce ping to the server? i always have a 200 ping... its horrible :/
use mesh fans instead of billboards works too
@vocal shard create a new public instance yourself. As the owner you will have 0 ping
invest in a internet wire that goes straight to the VRC servers
Pretty sure that doesn't work
install gentoo
all of my avatars from 2017 doesnt work anymore
maybe ill have to upload them again or vrchat made some fancy update which broke all of my avatars...
that's not how it works, the instance is not running on your own computer
That’s new info to me
i wish vrchat had eu servers
the only time it's running on your computer is when you test a local build
I see. I might have misunderstood how it was explained. I was informed VRChat is largely client side as far as the game scene goes with owner being master sync
ah okay, I think what they mean is most of what you see is running locally, like physics etc
and some objects are network synced/buffered but you're essentially running your own world with it's own local physics etc
particles etc etc
Yes. Which is why I assumed if you were the instance owner you’d have better ping (like chasing people down in murder)
as a EU player, I get pretty consistently around 170-200 ping regardless of who owns the instance (even when I own it I'm getting that kind of ping). If the ping was truly bound to the instance owners internet then you'd see WAY more latency related lag then you currently do.
yes, us EU players are screwed
never have ping under 170
even though they use AWS cloud services ._.
me2, always 180ping, i dont know why they wont get EU servers, maybe too expensive since its f2p
well they use a global cloud delivery system ...
but some crucial connections are obviously not made in EU terrotory
I dont see why its a big problem though-
but the download servers are good, im downloading always with full speed
Its not like VRC is an live action game
it's not really a problem, but try catching a ball someone throws at you
How can I ERP with 200 ping :(
slowly
Should still work as most of that stuff gets calculated client side
and then send towards the server that ya got it
Worse that happens is that for some it looked like it passed but it didnt
the delay back and forth makes it pretty much impossible to catch
@umbral reef murder is the first world I’ve seen that makes bad ping a problem since you can’t stab people running away from you since they are actually much farther ahead
you can only stab people in murder by flailing your knife like a madman 😄
it's not that it is a "big problem", it's more of an annoyance when everything is a tiny bit delayed.
just makes action games impossible for EU
Also- Not just EU has this
i understand the lag but i always hit that hard eyeroll when someone genuinely gets mad about failing to stab someone lol
The Atlantic peps also have this problem but worse often
cold front is doable ... but you need to lead everything
well, we weren't saying we were the only ones or that we had it worse, we just pointed out that we have a high ping and wish something was done about it 😛
I know an aussie in game who runs around with like 700-800 ping
so yeah, he has it way worse off
this ^ my connection is great ... I play overwatch on NA servers with half the ping
whatever the vrc AWS setup is, my ping is never below 170 and it's painful
OW has an complex AF and expensive AF server system set up for each region... And it even does calculation to predict stuff to help with ping
Its not odd that an game like VRC doesnt have that
“Adeon change your avatar I can’t shoot you your hit box is bad “
other gunman immediately shoots and kills me
obligatory wasn’t actually the murderer
Is this in the Murder Map?
Yes lol
Oof. I was in one of the public instances last night. Good time spent
Yeah it’s a fun world they need to make that reset button less trollable
Yeah
The reset button is pretty annoying
Oh, in that instance I encountered a Touhou avatar, a Tachanka avatar, a Hoppou, a Kanna, and many others
Including a heart-shaped avatar with hands and legs
So... Different sizes
so I rigged a model for VRChat using Mixamo and uh
I plugged him into the game but he's kind of stuck in a perpetual dabbing motion
I'm not seeing a problem
Oof. How hard did he die?
kanna bear
go to the avatar testing world and look at the rulers, and see how tall u want it
I was thinking of that.
You wouldn
you wouldn't happen to know how to make my height 5'10" in terms of x y and z
go into unity
create a cube
by default his size his 1 x 1 x 1 meter
change the y axis to the height you would like
and make your model as big as that
Did I just get a moderation kick for playing as a pony?
:P
? u probably got an vote kick
anyone have any idea why i cannot appear as a Known User Or trusted User?
I've played since last september and have many multiple avatars and worlds
you already asked that
There's no way for us to know really. We could say, "Maybe you get blocked a lot?" or something, but neither know if that's the case nor if it even actually effects the trust score.
Any guesses we could make would only be speculation both about you and about how the system even works.
Known and trusted nuisances? I've never seen that.
Didn't know it worked like that.
Although chances are, it's simply because they were spamming irritating effects, or possibly crashing people.
The few players I've seen marked nuisance have always been visitors using something like a Cory in the House avatar, or just one of the more douchey looking default avs, whilst also blaring loud distorted music through their microphone or such.
I only had to enable their stuff for about 10 seconds to confirm they deserved the title. Was kinda satisfying to see the system working well in that regard.
I've met one nuisance who had the sound of a loud fan or something similar in the background of their mic. I tried to introduce them to push to talk but they seemed unable to understand me, possibly because of said fan. It's a shame, I think they were trying to interact because they'd approach players and there would be a very faint human voice before they run off again to another player.
Never met a nuisance
Oh is it gone now? I know it used to be hidden until you open the menu where it's displayed along with the shader and particle effect ui icons.
Why would you completely block everyone from user and below. <_>
I'm confused. If known or trusted users were the ones who crashed you, what has that got to do with vistors/new-users/users? '-'
Newer people being the ones that are nuisance or crashers
Ban list when? Report those that have bypass their bans if we have a list to go by 😏
In my experience, Trusted and Known are where the majority of crashers are at, whilst the lower three ranks are where the majority of trolls and spammers are at.
The main reason to disable player models for the lower ranks:
Ugandan knuckles
Nah, Ugandan knuckles are almost extinct
Visitors are actually the safest overall, since they can't upload anything nor visit private worlds, so can't have crash avatars, and often haven't yet found which ever avatar worlds have the more annoying avatars.
Some still live in the sewers and pop out once in a while
The worst you usually get from them is someone in that generic beefcake avatar speaking Russian in a vaguely aggressive sounding manner.
Knuckles is an endangered species these days. Anyone still concerned about knuckles must have been asleep for the last 8 months.
I've seen more older players memeing with knuckle avatars than new ones lol
usually it's like "haha look at me remember this thing?" like looking at an embarrassing old picture
I think the worst thing I would ever do in VRChat is download a Lord Tachanka player model and play the soviet nation antheme
also how are there no paintball worlds in VRChat
There's a few veteran players these days going around with knuckles heads on a full sized body, wearing smart suits and tuxedos.
i mean why would you have paintball worlds when there's worlds with actual guns
I'm not sure if there's more to it, but the ones I've met seem to be making a deliberate effort to act civilised.
it's like wanting a paintball mode in GTA
i dunno, gun and gold or something has guns
capture the flag
there's probably more, i dont normally play them though
Are there any that are keyboard friendly? I don't have a VR rig
they all are, you just hold in in front of you like in Murder
I have a world in my favourites that has a simple city map, and a variety of working guns to use. Pistols, sniper rifle, breach loading shotgun, C4, grenades, etc.
Can't remember the name though. It's a weird hard to remember one.
Oh, this one definitely isn't keyboard friendly though.
You have to do stuff like cycling the bolt on the sniper rifle to reload it after each shot.
The most interesting gun map that I know is keyboard friendly, is probably KOTH. The snowy king of the hill map.
Although VR users still get an advantage on that one, since they can duel wield.
hi all - i recently upload a new vr chat world which is now just public today. Weird thing is when i went to visit my own world someone had left a cut tiny tiny puppy dog object in the main area of my world for all to see!
and also for one of my pickupable objects they somehow moved it a tiny tiny bit as well! doenst worry me but i dont know what to think ??
wish i could show the screen shot i took
You can upload your screenshot to any normal image hosting website (such as imgur), and still link it here for people to see, if you want.
It's only direct uploads and imbedded images that are disabled in this channel.
thanks i dont have a image hosting thing but how can someone leave a tiny object in my world even though its a cute dog (puppy labradord) and its not a avatar as its got no name above just curious
You don't need to "own" and image hosting thing. They're just websites you drag images onto and it uploads.
it s todds salmon dreams and the tiny puppy is in the main room next to a salmon range map of the world
Imgur doesn't even need an account.
oh
Very useful website.
single image as album 
Although regarding this puppy, I dunno. They might have just left a placeable object with their avatar, although I always assumed those disappear when the person leaves.
anything a avatar creats dissapears after the user leaves yes
Fairly sure all images upload like that Paul, he just didn't send the direct link.
Ok I Hate fact you can only Favorite 3 Avatars why not 10
I have been wondering that. I upload my own so it's not really an issue for me, but I wonder all the same.
There is reasons why it's limited.
A lot of avatar makers wouldn't like that.
Think of the world as a kind of show room for them.
They show off their avatars and you'll bring new people going there to change to one.
The 3 Favorites are a good compromise for those who cant or dont want to make them their self. Too much and you will have creators complaining.
^that is just my view on it tho 
solved
his name is salmon and he like the world he was just afk
weird he likes my world and making it his hoem world which u do if u r a salmon pupply
remember that one time when you could favorite zero avatars and people complained
and now you can favorite 3 and you have two groups complaining now
thank u all u so nice all
Dunno where to ask. If my PC doesn't match the req for oculus. Have 950M and have to have 980 in graphic card, do you think it would be alright either way? Or, if not, is Oculus go good and can you put VRChat there?
Oculus Go runs Android, so nope
a 950M might be just about manageable, but I can't promise anything
heck
Yeah the benchmarks for the 950m are not very promising, half the capability of the gtx 1050 which is listed as the minimum for the Oculus Rift. Mobile graphics cards from previous generations just aren't up to the task. ☹
980 was the minimum
The minimum has dropped a little bit, the 1050 is cheaper and not as powerful as the 980 actually.
Probably not. You might be able to get an external GPU depending on what laptop you have but I have no idea how well that works with VR.
If you have the space/living situation for it I'd highly recommend building a desktop. You can get a comparable PC for less money with a desktop and it's much easier to upgrade down the road.
950M would be really, REALLY pushin it
I travel a lot, can't get desktop
What about a small form factor PC? My friend has been travelling a lot recently and built one that fits neatly into a suitcase along with his clothing and other things.
I run the game on a 960, but M varient cards are DRASTICALLY cut down models of the real thing.
For reference, a 960m is roughly equivalent in actual performance to a full version of a 560.
If you really must use a laptop to play this game (Or any other VR title), only get one that is using a full sized card. Not a "m" type.
Fortunately more and more gaming laptops are actually doing that these days. Used to be almost none, back in the day.
can you turn off cache limit?
You'll still get thermal throttling on a laptop, and have to pay two or more times as much for the same hardware, but it's doable.
Well, time for me to save up money for WMR then.
Realizes my laptop runs a 940MX
Yeah, WMR is probably the most sensible option for laptops.
Wait, how does WMR compare to Oculus Go? I've never really compared them properly.
Dunno... But I would think WMR has the best value for the price compared to the Go, even considering its portability factor
Then again, I never bought either of those, so I don't really know.
I will just buy MSI
Oculus or Vive can wait one more month
Or other way around, dunno
I can play witcher 3 so is ok
Try the Vive if FBT is your taste
Full Body Tracking -
Full Body Tracking.
gimme that gay shit
Nyaa?! Why?
Free Butt Taste is better tho

Well... Anyways, full body tracking is another part of VR where the entire user's body can fully interact with the environment in a given playspace.
I have a whole hotel room for myself... I have a WHOLE FUCKING HOTEL for myself
mfw playing in restaurant
As such, it requires trackers. Either it can be wearable peripherals like Vive Trackers, or auxilliary peripherals like Kinect
I will see
Seems like it'd be kinda cumbersome to carry around an entire Vive or Rift everywhere when traveling.
True
I don't need clothes anyway
Haha.
And can always buy another bag
Also, Raense... You're gonna be Ruuubwhipped when he sees your comments
Who
You have virtual clothes, it's fine.
Whats your opinion about using the rift and the vive trackers at the same time?
what comments
YOUR comments, mate
@vocal shard You can do it, but it's both way more expensive, and far more finicky.
I use rift and vive trackers at the same time, way better than the kinect v2 but there is still some interference between the controllers and the vive pucks.
I dont have the best pc and not so much money to spend
I've also heard of another FBT tracking device. I think it's called Nolo VR
I have a friend that used to do it in order to use the Rifts controllers, but various updates for either Rift or Steam kept breaking it apparently. He just uses Vive these days, and is waiting for the Knuckles controllers.
Do you already have a headset? If not and you want full body just get the vive. It's cheaper in the long run and a better setup.
@vocal shard Please read the server rules before getting comfortable 
And yeah, the interference is because both systems rely on infrared light in different ways. The Vive lighthouses shine out IR lasers that the pucks are looking for, whilst the Rift controllers shine out IR light that the Rift sensors are looking for.
Combined, they both interfere with each other. Definitely not in any drastic way, but still.
If you want more tips or suggestions on setting up, hop over to #full-body-tracking, quite a few of us there have rift vive hybrid setups.
You get the pucks being blinded by constant IR light, and the touch controllers washed out and confused by the laser pulses.
I look forward to the day there are ten or so different headset options available to consumers, and controllers are no longer specific to any one headset.
Sorta like how Paimax and Star-VR are working towards, being cross compatible with Vive where possible.
@vocal shard Well. What did I tell you?
Happens.
does anyone know if a fake portal prefab exists for vrchat? I remember seeing the uganda portal in deathrun and assumed it was a fake but im unsure.
Need it so i can put a fake portal in my map to prank people hehehe
The portal in the Deathrun map is real, it just "kills" you before you hit the portal
🤔
Basically you don't "hit" the portals if you aren't actively moving into them
so maybe i could do a similar thing with a real portal and a vrc on avatar hit to teleport?
Probably
im just afraid it might put the user into the world instead of actually working as a prank portal
Yea I was about to say
im remaking the vrchat loading screen rn, thats why.
The bounding box collider for the portal might be a little wonky.
gonna put various prank items in there.
i think i will try that, just put a massive collider around it so nobody can actually go in it
was going to put a portal to the hub or something, but when you enter it it teleports you to a part in the map which is a "ms pain version" of the hub.
Servers down?
So my friends and I were joking around and blocking each other earlier. Now every time we join a world it says we have each other blocked when we don’t anymore so we have to reset it every time we go somewhere new to see each other
Try close it and open it again?
if not cleancache (not sure if this works at all)
or mail them and explain your problem
Try block/unblock eachother on the website, might fix it
Yeah that might work as well :P didn't think about that
It fixed that issue for me
If anyone here has run through the map "Pizza Hut in the Garage", do you know if the tree is the end of it?
I've ran through it with a few groups now, and we've all hit a dead end with the tree, but theres no indication from the map that we "beat" it.
For those who had been waiting for Dead Space VR,
Its finally waiting for approval ❤
Dope
did something went wrong with the vrc servers???
i cant seem to load anything today for some reason
even when i have my usual ping
Try restarting the game.
did, does nothing
Isn't that normal?
not in my case lmao
And your drives arent full?
well i can confirm i always clean cache whenever im done playing
so this is weird
also just checked my connection with speedtest, its anything but lo
low
Does anyone know where I can find a model of Sally from 'The Nightmare Before Christmas"?
Deviantart
I tried, couldn't find one
search xps sally
awesome, thanks
how easy is it to rig the eyes and mouth to move?
is it possible with this model?https://www.deviantart.com/lexakiness/art/Sally-XPS-404948374
@thick dune does the model come with bones for the face?
If not, you'll have to rig and weight paint it yourself
why not use the mmd
@median basalt It doesn't seem to, hmm
I'll have to look up a tutorial for it then
@rigid crescent What do you mean?
and mmd would be rigged already
I would make a memey skin and animate it but I have no clue of what software to get
Some od reason when I made a object pick up on my world but when I pick up the object on my world that is some od reason invisible but it’s between the object that I can see
@rigid crescent is there one for sally from the nightmare before christmas?
a few
i have question..
what is openvr how i get it and how i use it on vrchat ??
What chat do i use for help in decimating by materials on blender
@astral lantern Probably this one: #avatars-2-general
@rigid crescent Do you mind sharing a link for it?
OpenVR is a standard protocol, one that SteamVR uses, it’s not something you download
@vocal shard
How can I explain this. It would be like asking how to download a WiFi
perhaps he meant openOVR?
Dunno where to put this but I've got this problem where my left and right audio is reversed in VRChat.
I've had that in the past. I can't remember what the fix actually was, but I was able to find it on google without too much searching.
One possible thing to try, is simply unplugging the entire headset and putting it back in.
flip the headphones
Google told me to replug the thing too and it didn't work D:
HELP I'M STUCK IN THE FLOOR ON THE HUB WORLD
have you tried respawning?
Sometimes people get completely confused and (very incorrectly) call OpenVR Advanced Settings 'openvr'. 🤔
^ that's true, didn't think of that
Stop now while u can
It's called Vrchatobia, we all have it
I had it on in the background and it started lagging and it got worse the longer it was going
And I don't know why so I can't fix it
Wouldn’t the “obia” bit imply that we are fearful or prejudice against VRC?
anyone know how ppl getting there own avatar on the screen like a mirror? https://i.imgur.com/mwN4cYM.jpg
-phobia is fear of. -philia is obsession with.
well almost 4000 hours and 90 avatars and growing
How do you have almost 4000 hours? I only have 700 on Rainbow Six Siege and I almost EXCLUSIVELY play it, for at least three hours a day, and I've had it for a year
i have not even played for a year
Holy, I though my 1200 was a lot
Cryptic i shall surpasss u
i am a avatar creator after all and i used to hang with all my streaming friends i stopped that tho
Pretty sure the term for a person obsessed with vr is ‘gargoyle’ (sounds like goggle), as of Snow Crash novel.
xD keep trying cause i play when i can and create and test while in games
Welp i play from day to night
and i skip school to play sooooo
xD well i have not done that well i have a few times
Wait, do you take online courses or are you actually skipping classes
i mean im a college student with classes 3 days a week
i dont leave friend worlds
tho
Because I can understand online classes, I can get my entire weeks worth of work done in about five hours, but real school?
so i dont know if dating is stil a thing in vrchat xD i dont pay attention to it
it is
well i only have work for my math class
I was playing Murder and I can assure you it still happens
I try to get a girl in VRChat daily
Me?
ik its not hard
but im looking for a certain kind of VRChat girl
A guy?
nope i was a guy that looks like one second let me find something
but was there a birb, at least 3 super tiny people, and a titanfall bot?
and also a xenomorph?
Sooooo 14k people have VRChat rn but arent playing hmmmmmm
I’m at work yo
hmmmm well i played since last november before it became big
But I’m on the vrc discord
xD
That means something no
no
Nah, I don't think I saw you Cryptic
K then
u gotta be ingame
awww well i was with a girl and we went to hide in a closet to see everyones reaction for fun and it was funny as hell
oof
Whenever I was a special role I just took a weapon hid in a closet and killed the first person I saw
see thats the way 2 go
well i played all summer i didnt eat much lol
who eats food
idk but
people who require food
i eat a sample portion of food each day
and people who like pretzels
i am in here for crash announcements but then i dont use this much cause most of my exes are in here
like ill eat 1 thing a day
Does the headset cover your mouth or prevent you from using the toilet no I didn’t think so no food or bathroom breaks needed
I have at least five empty water bottles on my desk right now
i have 1
I tend to be a loud person
i had a drawer full of pop cans
wait pop means soda right
i think i have drank 1 or 2 bottles of water in a few days plus a gallon of iced tea then i eat little amounts of food each day because im to memorized by this game
Hell yeah I'm learning not american english
Invests in trash can next to desk @undone perch @vocal shard
xD
i need to learn my language
i cleaned it up ok
I could just take a trash can from somewhere in the house and move that next to my desk but why would i
i also need to pass my english class with an 100 rn i have a 98?
hmmmmm
i wonder where i can find some nice VRChat girls
lmao i sound so wierd haha
You can't, they've all gone into hibernation
they all vanished awhile ago im sorry
i tend to corrupt them when they date me its bad
i mean i can find some sometimes in the open mic night or pug (THats y i have a full friends list of girls
Whenever I go to open mic night it's empty so I just make a pun about it and then leave
um they start dating a lot of others after they leave me and try to become harem queens or some shit
Also why don't more people tell jokes in the open mic world
what did u do to the balance of nice girls
im usually not like this
i just havent slept in 2 days
and my friend see she worries about me
sleep then
how do ppl add a mirror of there avatar to there screen? is this an VRChat feature ? https://i.imgur.com/mwN4cYM.jpg
she's scared im gonna die
wait reask that
but im an inzomniac soooooo sleeping is hard
I mean from what you've been saying you might actually die
a lot of vrchat players are
go eat chips
im fine with dying i dont fear it i mean i dont necesarillary wanna die sorry my typing is trash
Right so based off of what I just saw get some food and water and go to bed
ima go work on models if you ever want to talk just pm me
and heights is already adding me lol
im sorry i like making friends i dont like being lonely
Be my friend in VR chat too I need my tachanka player model
I need custom avatars and I can't get them without playing VRChat and making friends
oh
well i can get on later and you can join me
i am at the college during the week so i can only play desltop
weekends i play vr
i dont have custom avatars so i can just be friends with u
I'm on desktop too, I'm getting a vr sometime in early 2019 tho so that'll be nice
ive had mine since last year and the controllers need replaced
i replaced the cord already
im never getting a VR bevause i know my computer cant handle it
my laptop can handle it i used that for 6 months before it went to shit and had to reformat
You might be able to run it sometime in the future. Everything wears down eventually, so start saving some money so that if your pc breaks you can just replace it with a better one.
I've tried the game on a laptop with a 960m and tbh it's pretty playable
The game isn't super demanding in desktop mode if you have halfway decent specs
different story in VR though
No, i am talking about vr
So long as you stay out of the pug and other areas known to tank performance with high player counts
Of course, that's just for me
i mean any map with high player counts will do it
^
player count is what typically kills, not maps
Even if you have a completely overkill rig, you'll still lag with even a medium sized group of players
and it's not even player count, it's really more like dynamic bone/collider count. You can most likely run a room with 20+ just fine if they don't have excessive amounts
Low performance worlds do contribute, but if optimised correctly can easily handle upside of 30 users.
The downside is "users" seems to refer more to "users with somewhat optimized avatars"
not just your 25 buddies with custom avatars
I do recognize that some people are way more vulnerable to motion sickness and headaches from vr that isn't at a constant 90 FPS
Assuming you don't have people who put dynamic bone on 4000 skirt bones that are constantly shoved up against DB colliders.
So for those people yeah a better rig is a necessity
luckily I'm not one of those people. I can handle sub 30 fps in VR just fine
I tend to float around 60 and it doesn't bother me
I don't dip below 45 usually, under that is annoying.
Sub 20 is when everyone gives up
I've found that the more I play in VR, the more it feels... normal I guess?
but usually that only happens towards the later half of a huge session
and yeah, sub 20 isn't even video anymore, it's a slideshow
Yeah, even with the SteamVR Beta's Frame Smoothing, under 20fps gets weird
getting really low framerates in vr still feels more reponsive than on desktop tbh
At least in vr you have your own sense of orientation independent of the game to rely on if things get choppy
Honestly i can't even tell the difference between 45 and 90 anymore because reprojection is always on, and i wouldn't even be aware of it
60 is the new 90
With framesmoothing under 20fps starts to turn into this
https://media.giphy.com/media/3OR276VHRnuBq/giphy.gif
It's awesome
same Ruubick
I mean, if I really pay attention I can, but if I'm just chilling with friends I don't notice it
If it’s over 45 I’m generally pretty happy. Though when it’s in my world I feel like its unacceptable


