#vrchat-general-2

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umbral oracle
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Ok so they have to turn pure before they can be flashy

sweet meadow
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I just dont wanna look lame

sleek pecan
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Also my HUD is going to be some giant piece of crap in front of my face now

sweet meadow
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Thats all

sleek pecan
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Sean, shut

near sky
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@rough pulsar Damn. Thanks for confirming that either way. fudgeshrug
I use an MMD model I've adapted in Blender a fair bit. Leg proportion and arm proportion is ridiculous. May have to take some creative liberty to fix that, and see what I can get out of it.

Something to play with, at any rate.

mighty galleon
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no meme

grave dagger
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the filters dont affect your own avatar

mighty galleon
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those shaders are the reason i hate shaders

tacit plank
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The reason I don't see the problem with shaders, is that fallback shaders are pretty much the same as say, cubeds.
It seems to only limit things like spheres, guns, etc which I find annoying to begin with

sweet meadow
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Then vrc aint the game for u

summer dew
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I've haven't been playing VRChat for a while, and this is sort of a turn off as well. Big oof

rough pulsar
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@near sky Regardless of if you use fullbody or not, there's some info in the #full-body-tracking channel for ensuring matching avatar-user proportions.

median basalt
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@tacit plank it limits far more than just that

rigid crescent
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"this" as in what?

sleek pecan
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I know, but everyone else will the see the HUD mesh in front of my face

mighty galleon
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i play vrchat to be social and chat, not to be annoyed by particles, animations or shaders

sweet meadow
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If u dont tolerate the creativity of others, you are not welcome

hoary ridge
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Lmfao fuck the yellows

tacit plank
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Sure it is, I just have friends with motion sickness, so why would I distort their screen or something like that?

median basalt
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I made a shader for my glasses for example. Poof, gone. White cylinders.

rigid crescent
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LOL look at thhat gatekeeping

slate rover
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anyone know any good avatar worlds with wedding outfits?

sleek pecan
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Sean, just leave now

weary bison
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you can also highlight someone and select "show avatar", which locally enables all their features for you

sweet meadow
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But thats discriminating

rigid crescent
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"If you don't see my annoying avatar, you don't belong here!"

mighty galleon
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nah meme

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im able to stay and say my opinion

median basalt
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Quantum has some nice effects on his edited Cubed shaders. Poof, gone. Standardized.

languid compass
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LOL

near sky
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@rough pulsar Appreciated, Gallium -I'll give it a read man

languid compass
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I CAN'T BE A LEGEND

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rip

slate rover
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anyone know any good avatar worlds with wedding outfits?

sweet meadow
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Yea

sleek pecan
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We do not appreciate you opinion, I am not going to agree with it.

tacit plank
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I think they will whitelist more shaders though. It seems pretty easy for them

median basalt
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Jello shader that dents when you put your hand in it, gone.

mighty galleon
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you dont need to appeciate it, im just saying shaders like the one you use a lot of people dont like

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when they want to just talk

median basalt
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@tacit plank they have to bundle every shader they whitelist with the game though as far as I know

tacit plank
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For glasses, a standard shader at 10 or so alpha and reflection should do, though?

sonic rock
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Maybe there can be a shader whitelisting channel or system?

sweet meadow
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Instead of blocking shaders we should be able to block normie's and lame ppl's opinions

median basalt
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Not if you want it to look better than that @tacit plank

sleek pecan
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I hope there is a shader whitelist system we can apply shaders to

tacit plank
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Well, I guess so, but a shader is only a few KB at best

covert chasm
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@median basalt All of those shaders are visible on your friends, people that have unhidden that avatar, and users that are in a trust rank that you've enabled shaders for. They aren't gone.

hoary ridge
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OmegaLul

sleek pecan
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Like we ask them to approve a shader

rigid crescent
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"gone" big meme

covert chasm
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As stated in the blog post, shaders only fall back if they are blocked.

rigid crescent
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I'm guessing whitelisted shaders are going to be ones that are the most basic.

summer dew
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So what defines as being a "nuisance"? A couple of hard asses reporting you? What prevents abuse of the system from people reporting for no reason? I'm a little concerned about this.

median basalt
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Default settings basically ensure they won't be visible to many people, unless you have several hundred hours in the game

sleek pecan
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Yeah

covert chasm
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We'll release details on the remapping/fallback system later... again, as stated in the Blog post.

sleek pecan
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You mean several thousand?

hoary ridge
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Lmao relax

rigid crescent
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Reports aren't the end all be all

sleek pecan
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No

covert chasm
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@summer dew Addressed in previous blog post

summer dew
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I read the previous blog post?

granite coral
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there are some whitelisted shaders that are visible any time right?

umbral oracle
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It is really easy to show people too. So you just go around and ask people if they want to see something or they will wonder why your prop is a solid green cube and turn you on

covert chasm
sweet meadow
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Instead of ranks you could just have added block avatar feature

sleek pecan
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3 toon shades

granite coral
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like cubed and such?

rigid crescent
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Aren't a lot of "nuisnace" based bans/warnings manual?

summer dew
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"Although we can’t share exact details of how we mitigate these types of attacks, it is something that we are both prepared for, and can easily adjust to adapt to potential problems we did not foresee."

languid compass
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Very smart move to remove the Vet status, and to reiterate that low quality effort doesn't do anything

summer dew
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Basically we don't know and we'll figure it out later

sweet meadow
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Cuz blocking shaders will ruin every avatar lmao

median basalt
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A friend of mine has been blocked by like 600 people and he's trusted

languid compass
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approved

sweet meadow
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Too many normies in the game

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I tell you

granite coral
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trusted, just not by those 600 blocks lol

rigid crescent
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Unironic use of that word scares me.

hoary ridge
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^

sleek pecan
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I actually kinda wonder how much of the pop of the game will disappear instantly

rigid crescent
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I don't think blocks really matter all that much, there could just be 600 people who don't like him.

sweet meadow
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They think vrc is some sort of rpg

sleek pecan
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Yeah

iron seal
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i leveled up charisma

mighty galleon
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ima enjoy all the ranks

sweet meadow
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Pretty adult to block someone just cuz u dont like him

languid compass
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they got rid of those RPG'ish features for that reason

rigid crescent
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Yes....yes it is.

tacit plank
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A few blocks shouldn't matter, but at 600 it starts being an indicator that he's doing something wrong

median basalt
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Nah, the guy with 600 blocks spams obnoxious shaders and noises

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Yet he's trusted

rigid crescent
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Instead of insulting that person, you just block them to avoid any contact.

median basalt
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So apparently blocks don't matter, which is fine by me

sweet meadow
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How to solve problems like an adult 2k18

tacit plank
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Of course, anyone will get 600 blocks sooner or later given enough playtime, but yeah

median basalt
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Or they don't matter as much

sleek pecan
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They are making it into a safe space imo, just disable avatars if you just want to talk to people lol

median basalt
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^

umbral oracle
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It will stifle creativity a bit but doesn't prevent creativity with shaders. And in exchange we will get people hanging out in public worlds again. It is to try to make it easier for new users to get engaged

near badge
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I miss gunter

rigid crescent
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So what do you do? Let them be annoying and blast you with particles, shaders, etc? How is blocking not an adult thing to do?

sleek pecan
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Yes it does

tacit plank
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I think it's blocks and mutes. I saw a knuckles which played music recently, he had that rank (or at least users in the instance told me so)

median basalt
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Trust system is a step in the right direction, but I don't think there should be this many restrictions on people below trusted

sleek pecan
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Exactly

median basalt
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I'm all for a customization system

sleek pecan
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Disable sound maybe

median basalt
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Also, I'm glad that they renamed the wording to Shield rather than Safety

granite coral
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i mean, is a game, i should not have to deal with annoying people, if i wanted that i could just stay at my workplace

median basalt
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Because the new wording is far less misleading

languid compass
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Everyone's game experience isn't the same, but these are some pretty good features they're implementing

median basalt
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Whatever, if people wanna block my shaders then I'll let them

vocal shard
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Oculus Quest is expected to be released Spring 2019.

summer dew
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You should be trusted by default (or like 20-30 hours gameplay) and then be restricted from stuff if you abuse it. Not have to "earn" this stuff back.

languid compass
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everyone has their own sensitivity level, and you have the option to not be like them

vocal shard
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is it going to be compatible with steam

sleek pecan
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Vrchat will not release on quest

mighty galleon
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nah nova

rigid crescent
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lol that's a terrible idea Nova

tacit plank
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The point of VRChat is to look at and become avatars, it's not to see who can warp screens the most

rigid crescent
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Sit there 20 hours, instant trust.

mighty galleon
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if you're trusted by default it wouldnt stop the crashers

vocal shard
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please don't let the new update be "The Great Ugandan Purge"

median basalt
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Trust should not be based solely on ingame time

rigid crescent
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Restriction would need to be nearly manual, that's something harder to automate.

summer dew
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That's 20 hours per account though

median basalt
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But trusted user should be something you earn fairly quickly if you are legitimately playing IMO

mighty galleon
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not that much time nova

gloomy valve
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Id be ok with a purge of those little red fuckers

median basalt
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Serial crashers won't want to spend 20 hours between each crash they perform

umbral oracle
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I think known should allow shaders and particles by default. Known is hard but at least it is attainable without devoting your life to vrchat for a year

iron seal
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20 hours is nothing tbh

vocal shard
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vive lobbiests dont want people to use oculus hardware

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XD

iron seal
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you can just leave it on in the background all day

median basalt
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If they wanna avoid selective crashes, I think blocking animations is enough

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Don't have to block shaders entirely

lofty tundra
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wouldnt it be better if the nametag stays green through all ranks and you can only see the rank of a user by actually inspecting them? im realy sad now

sweet meadow
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Serial crashers dont crash with avatars

hoary ridge
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There should be a block all particles button

sweet meadow
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Thats why we all hate that blocking system

hoary ridge
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I think that would come in handy

vocal shard
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vrc will be dead by spring 2019 anyways

median basalt
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@sweet meadow that's kinda the point I was making. The trust system doesn't stop network crashers.

sweet meadow
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Cuz it doesnt prevent

languid compass
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@lofty tundra i assume you borrowed that idea from runescape

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lmao

tacit plank
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"Each crash" atm, it's hard to detect crashers. In the future, as security is improved, they can give out ranks faster or lower the standards

median basalt
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Lol I doubt the game will die by spring unless the devs do something really stupid

languid compass
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it's not a bad idea

median basalt
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If the devs literally stopped working on the game right now, it would still be alive by spring

lofty tundra
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@languid compass i never played runescape lol

sweet meadow
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Rokk

median basalt
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So they would have to actively try and kill it

languid compass
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haha they use that system

median basalt
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I don't see that happening

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VRC currently offers an experience like no other

gloomy valve
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Or get baked in

vocal shard
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@median basalt so why wont next gen headsets be compatible with this

median basalt
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It won't die until it stops doing that

tacit plank
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Why are people so negative in here, anyways?

gloomy valve
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Idk

rigid crescent
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Sky is falling mentality

hoary ridge
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Feelsbadman

sweet meadow
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There were 2 community riots that saved the game. The first one was with the implented particle limiter, the second one i dont remember

gloomy valve
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Edgy teens?

tacit plank
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If your shaders aren't a pain in the ass, other people won't block them in the first place

gloomy valve
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^this

mighty galleon
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i like the ranking system and cant wait for it to be released

covert chasm
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Negative conversation is a lot more attractive and conducive to spurring on further convo than positive conversation.

vocal shard
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tupper

hoary ridge
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Omegalul Tupper

manic salmon
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I'll be a lot more willing to hang out in public lobbies than I was before, once this system is in place. No more people on fresh accounts with cancerous screenspace shaders and obscenely loud noises. No more people who spend their nights making new accounts over and over again because they get their kicks from going around shader crashing lobbies until they get banned, make a new account, rinse, repeat.

vocal shard
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why are next gen headsets not compatible

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or going to be

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?

rough pulsar
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@vocal shard VRC is incredibly resource intensive. The Oculus Quest doesn't stand a chance of running it reasonably. Especially if even 6th gen i7s and 1080's struggle at times.

covert chasm
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If it works in SteamVR, it will work for VRChat

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its that simple

vocal shard
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ok

umbral oracle
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I love vrchat. If you see something that looks like negativity it is because people are passionate and emotions get lost in text.

tacit plank
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That's a good point, a lot just seems to say that the game is dying, so I'm wondering why they're even here

rigid crescent
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I'm definitely gonna be in publics more often too

hoary ridge
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Publics are a 50/50

sweet meadow
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I love vrchat tio

gloomy valve
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I just love this game because its finnaly giving me a reason to learn Unity

umbral oracle
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I'm here because I love the community and that's not going to change because a couple restrictions got added

river thunder
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Once I get my god damned avatar to stop asserting dominance

covert chasm
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@umbral oracle excellent point too. People react negatively sometimes because they see changes as potential disruptions to their passion and community. So its understandable that people might think "THE SKY IS FALLING" sometimes.

sweet meadow
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Thats why we here

rigid crescent
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People are stupid, basically. There was a "boom" due to the memes and the exposure it gave, but that did die down.

river thunder
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I'll go on more public worlds

cerulean dust
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I'm just waiting for the new patch so I can go to public.

rough pulsar
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Also often those who love something the most are also the most critical of it because they want it to be the best it can be.

hoary ridge
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@rigid crescent Like most popular games lul

manic salmon
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You know what doesn't say vrchat is dying? Actual stats from places like steamcharts which show gains in the average number of players month over month since the falloff in the winter.

summer dew
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We just want proper addressment for our concerns instead of "we can't tell you and we'll figure it out"

tacit plank
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The pop has been increasing since the knuckles died out

summer dew
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That's a little concerning in of itself

rigid crescent
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Why concern?

iron seal
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yeah i heard that the knuckles thing pushed folks to private worlds for a while

umbral oracle
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The only thing that would cause me to leave is if user generated content got disabled completely or had to go through a slow approval process even for friends

sweet meadow
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Yea, bcuz you should handle changes with every part of the community, yes, even with the small amount of creators and diehard animators

delicate stump
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sky is falling

mighty galleon
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i was one of those people invalid

delicate stump
mighty galleon
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since i dont like memes

rigid crescent
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'What concern rather.

sweet meadow
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Not on your own

mighty galleon
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i stayed in just privates

median basalt
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People who do animation and pushing the limits of avatar development are basically just waiting for something to happen

candid hare
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panics

rigid crescent
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Why would they tell in detail how the system works? It'd lead to instant abuse.

hoary ridge
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I dont got a group like you popular boys

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So going to publics is like a must do

half apex
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i really enjoy public worlds

umbral oracle
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I work for a company and I think it is normal and expected to reveal nothing about future decisions before they are finalized. It has gotten increasingly important sadly in the modern age because one wrong word can spark a rumor

hoary ridge
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Public worlds can be super fun

tacit plank
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Current concerns are network crashes, invisible players, changing others avatars (maybe into ones that crash you upon logging in), spawning in objects, client hacks which friend/mute/block every person in the room to mess with stats

iron seal
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can also be a bit of a snooze sometimes though

mighty galleon
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public worlds are hard to enjoy b/c of all the particles animations and shaders

vocal shard
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rip

mighty galleon
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its the main reason i hate being in them

vocal shard
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vive pro... last supported headset by VRC

hoary ridge
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Yea

vocal shard
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F

hoary ridge
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You just get into bad public worlds then

gloomy valve
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Or mixed reality

mighty galleon
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no asian

rigid crescent
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My problem with publics now are just the quality of people in them is a lot lower than before the malicious stuff was as common as it is.

gloomy valve
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Does the job ok

delicate stump
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is it normal that I can only see a few rooms in each world instead of all of them?

mighty galleon
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i dont like those things at all

umbral oracle
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I think shields to maximum (is that how you say it now?) should fix some of those issues by blocking animations

delicate stump
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been like this for a while now

manic salmon
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public is like the zoo right now, I go on an expedition every once in a while

vocal shard
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well

half apex
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there are the times when you get the crashers and particle spammers etc.

tacit plank
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the rest might be private instances thereal

hoary ridge
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Well idk then because my public worlds are usually fine

rigid crescent
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Yo ucan only see public rooms on the world list

delicate stump
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ohh right

sweet meadow
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Sean, particles are nothing illegal, they deserve their place and can sometimes be beautiful, if you would give them a chance. Otherwise you are just a misled hater

delicate stump
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so many private then

gloomy valve
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Now if we could just punish crashers in the box id be happy

hoary ridge
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Russians and asians are always on in the morning/afternoons

mighty galleon
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obito

hoary ridge
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Night time is Prime Time

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^

gloomy valve
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Yes

mighty galleon
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i dont like particles, they're annoying most of the time, and im in this game to talk, not to look at those things

rigid crescent
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Particles aren't always bad, there's plenty of users that don't abuse them and just use them to enhance their avatar.

vocal shard
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lol

half apex
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that's unfortunate.

summer dew
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If you're just here to talk, why are you even playing VR

vocal shard
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normies!

sweet meadow
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But it is a part of vrchaz

rigid crescent
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A shine on a ring/necklace, something neat on their glasses, etc

gloomy valve
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Thank you mic

summer dew
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Go to like Teamspeak or Discord VC

vocal shard
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ban all normies!

hoary ridge
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Grrrrr

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Normies!

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Omegalul

gloomy valve
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Cringe

rigid crescent
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My favorite particle effect was a simple custom shine a girl had on her ring, I think she said her husband modeled it for her and they were married IRL

mighty galleon
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b/c teamspeak and discord arent good places to talk to a lot of people

umbral oracle
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Particles can be used for subtle effects and for fun, like an avatar that has hearts floating out when they want to show you they like you

sweet meadow
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If u dont like the entirety of the product, maybe you are wrong?

half apex
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just saying particles is pretty it seems.

rigid crescent
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But it's the intrusive particles that are annoying.

sweet meadow
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Yes

tacit plank
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I like the avatar aspect, and avatars sometimes have non-default shaders. But I don't see the point in effects that cover all of the screen, or loud music, or anything like that

quiet beacon
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Someone play with me :c

half apex
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broad*

gloomy valve
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I like particals. If done right i can really pull an avatar together

hoary ridge
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Honestly it really just matters on what you think is intrusive

rigid crescent
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By intrusive I think most people know I mean using them to annoy people

sweet meadow
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But particle abusers get ppl like me blocked, even tho i optimize and make em publuc friendly

mighty galleon
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i dont have anything on my avatars, besides cubed basic shaders

gloomy valve
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Yeah if somone has a partical emmitrr that just blasts emojis its anoying

summer dew
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Instead of the trust system, why not give us the ability to toggle it at our own discretion?

rigid crescent
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If you're blasting around emoji particles and whatnot, that's annoying.

mighty galleon
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anything besides that i'd find annoying

gloomy valve
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Vanilla

rigid crescent
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We do have the ability to toggle it. The ranks just let you categorize it better.

sonic rock
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Isn't that what the particle limiter is for though?

half apex
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the trust system does enable to toggle said settings on/off

sweet meadow
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And i hate those particle haters that block everyone on sight that doesnt use a cheap shader

umbral oracle
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Nova, that's exactly what they did. I will play with shields down so to speak

rigid crescent
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The particle limiter isn't exactly user friendly.

sonic rock
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Aha

summer dew
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Isn't the trust system automatic based on their trust level or some crap

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Not manual?

rigid crescent
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OK, real question, did you read either article?

umbral oracle
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The default is automatic. Everything can be customized

mighty galleon
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you can customize it

summer dew
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Yes, I read both

half apex
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you have the option to customize the levels of 'shields' so to speak.

vocal shard
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Hello

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This is a Normie-free server

rigid crescent
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THe trust system is automatic, with some manual thrown in I'm sure. It doesn't change your avatar or how yo usee your avatar.

summer dew
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And VRChat puts you into a certain rank based upon your activity

rigid crescent
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you can customize the "What you seE" settings all you want

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Not just activity but sure, let's go with that.

umbral oracle
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Obito, now they can just hide your avatar but still hear you. Way better than being forced to block completely

sweet meadow
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Yea

rigid crescent
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Unless by "activity" you mean the activities you participate in lol

sweet meadow
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No normies allowed plz

summer dew
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I meant it as a general term yeah

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not just playtime

manic salmon
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Nova - people are automatically assigned a trust level by VRC. You can choose what trust level has what blocked/allowed, you can choose whether you use the system at all, and you can set things for individual users if you want an exception but still want the rules in place.

rigid crescent
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Yeah, then if you "play the game" so to speak, you get a higher rank. You can still choose what you wanna block though, even with Friends now which I like

mighty galleon
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all i know is ima still block anyone who sounds like a kid and block anyone with knuckles still

summer dew
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I like the system, but I don't like the automation part.

tacit plank
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If I'm considered normal, then therapist is a safe career choice

rigid crescent
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What's wrong with it?

half apex
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aah come on, the that are still around arent that bad

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XD

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the knuckles*

vocal shard
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if you get motion sickness you are a normie

lofty tundra
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i want my rank back...REEEEEE tyrissRee

mighty galleon
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i dont like memes that much

river thunder
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how did you loose it?

tacit plank
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The knuckles which are still there aren't that bad, but only because there's only a few of them

summer dew
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Basically you have to go about making friends and playing the game in order to earn stuff to the "Default" user.

floral aspen
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You don't think assigning ranks should be automated Aurora?

summer dew
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Yes

lofty tundra
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because they removed it @river thunder

rigid crescent
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...yeah? You have to play the game. That makes sense to me.

river thunder
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oh yeah

trim finch
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@lofty tundra FeelsStrongMan

river thunder
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forgot about the loss of veteran

half apex
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if it wasn't automated, there would be mayhem.

floral aspen
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So someone should manually assign a rank to the every single user in VRChat?

rigid crescent
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You aren't really "earning" anything though, outside of avatar upload priveleges.

tacit plank
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Ranks are still in the API, don't worry

lofty tundra
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im sad because of it >.>

summer dew
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Yes, to an extent

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Because there aren't many nuisance people

river thunder
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I just hope I dont loose my fukin user rank

rigid crescent
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People will customize their settings the way they want and you're free to do the same.

floral aspen
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That isn't even feasible

cerulean dust
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@mighty galleon . Knuckles are adorable. They are an endangered species and must be protected at all costs.

iron seal
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that's sounds resource wasting tbh

mighty galleon
#

they're not adorable

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they're ugly

lofty tundra
#

i just dont get why people were so fucking butthurt because of the veteran rank, i just.....cant understand it

summer dew
#

I've only blocked like 3 people over the course of playing

floral aspen
#

there are thousands of players in VRChat

rigid crescent
#

I mean we really didn't need it to be honest

iron seal
#

i cant imagine having that job

half apex
#

true

iron seal
#

"hey mate, you gotta assign roles to every user"

rigid crescent
#

So what's wrong with automation? You just keep saying you don't like it.

floral aspen
#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 5085 users in VRChat currently

sweet meadow
#

I will just block nothing, as it is, how the game is meant to be played and always was

tacit plank
#

Knuckles are ugly and have some hole in their neck which is disgusting in the same way that imagening kicking a brick with a toothpick under your nail is.

summer dew
#

I already explained myself above

sweet meadow
#

#NoDiscrimination

rigid crescent
#

You're saying there aren't many nuisance players? That's not true though.

summer dew
#

It is though

rigid crescent
#

Otherwise the system wouldn't exist.

floral aspen
#

lmao you think someone on the team should just sit around all day assigning ranks manually to over 5,000 people?

mighty galleon
#

i've always discriminated against certain things in game

iron seal
#

to manually assign they'd have to hire an entire team

rigid crescent
#

You must not play much, or sit in private/friend rooms.

mighty galleon
#

specially shaders that a lot of crashers use

sweet meadow
#

Well

summer dew
#

Unless the game suddenly became a shitpile in the past 3 months or so

rigid crescent
#

It's been a problem for longer than that.

half apex
#

so what kind of shaders do you not like sean?

sweet meadow
#

I assume you dont have many friends, if u surpress ppl in your vicinity that much

half apex
#

ah

mighty galleon
#

the one that you see a lot of crashers use

rigid crescent
#

Which one? lol

sweet meadow
#

Lmao

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Thats like Strawberry and cherry

vocal shard
#

This guy discriminates

mighty galleon
#

idk the name, never asked they just have a distinctive look

rigid crescent
#

NoeNoe?

tacit plank
#

The problems just changed. Knuckles went away, but there was essentially no custom shaders half a year back, now they're pretty common

sweet meadow
#

2 different things

rigid crescent
#

Lots of crashers use that one.

small wing
#

I hate gucci, but that doesn't mean i slap a guy for wearing it. πŸ€”

vocal shard
#

sean are you a racist?

rigid crescent
#

Oh, cubed too, I see cubed on a lot of shaders

mighty galleon
#

no?

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i just dont trust something when a lot of people use it for bad

half apex
#

i use cubed alot.

sweet meadow
#

You should get atleast a slight about what u are talking about

half apex
#

i get where your coming from sean

rigid crescent
#

You don't trust Noe?

granite coral
#

ehm

vocal shard
#

NOE NOE??? BLOCKEDDDD!!!!

rigid crescent
#

You have no clue what you're actually talking about though and it's kinda cringy

vocal shard
#

CUBBBBEEDD?D?D? BLOCKCKCKEDD!!

tacit plank
#

But there are a lot of bad people, and "playing more" is the best indicator we currently have of how much you can trust users

granite coral
#

you know that the crashers just name the shaders like the known ones to hide them right?

cerulean dust
#

Noe noe with no light ramp better than cubed. Change my mind.

summer dew
#

Just because it's used by the nuisance people doesn't mean that all people that use it are bad

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lmao

tacit plank
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Also those who upload their own avatars and worlds

small wing
#

I kinda hate cubed shaders for my own reasons, but that doesnt mean i block people who use it.

mighty galleon
#

mic, i dont know the name of shaders, all i know is it has a distinctive loom and i see a lot of crashers wear it

small wing
#

Hurts my eyes though.

half apex
#

it's kinda like how one would associate a person with alot of body tattoos as some sort of gangster.

sweet meadow
#

Lmao, crashers dont have a specific look

tacit plank
#

If anyone has a better system than this current one, they're free to share their ideas

sweet meadow
#

They can even have a modified nikei with default shader

floral aspen
#

Cibbi just naming a custom shader the same name as a whitelisted shader isn't going to bypass the system

weary bison
#

I think one of the crash groups used a shader with harsh rim lighting, don't know if they're still a thing but I see people get judged for it

rigid crescent
#

I mean I think it's garish but I don't block people for it lol

half apex
#

there you go

granite coral
#

not the one implemented in vrchat right now

half apex
#

the rimlighting

sweet meadow
#

U can judge by personality, or u can just ruin the game and block on sight

tacit plank
#

What does rim lighting look like? I'd need an example

small wing
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@tacit plank like crap

granite coral
#

but you know, some people use modified clients with stuff like that

sweet meadow
#

Crash groups, oh you probably know the name noe, do you?

granite coral
#

and other people with other modified clients try to avoid that

half apex
#

i dont think i have apicture of it

tacit plank
#

Lmao

half apex
#

lemme check

weary bison
#

I have no idea, I just had friends block people for using the shader

rigid crescent
#

The shader defaults to a clientside whitelisted shder on your end.

half apex
#

its hard to describe.

sweet meadow
#

I mean

small wing
#

@tacit plank Its aesthetic is in the name, but its misrepresented by what it actually says it does. Use Lux physically based shader works instead.

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Rimlight is horrible in comparison. Pbr scattering is much easier to work with too ironically.

sweet meadow
#

Everyone can crash cuz sadly it is easy, but u cant say"this is what a crasher looks like, block on sight". How can such behaviour not be banable?

winter osprey
#

hey does anyone know this guy named Magze?

tacit plank
#

I see, thanks

half apex
#

obito, many crashers have similar looking shaders

tacit plank
#

And I'm working on a few shaders for a friend now. They're just things like noise and cell patterns, but still

mighty galleon
#

i'd rather be safe and block a person who have a chance of being a crasher

half apex
#

its what they've become associated with unfortunately

mighty galleon
#

for i wont be annoyed by them

sweet meadow
#

Yea, i have the same shaders, and i never crashed someone

rough pulsar
#

Intentionally crashing other users is bannable and should be reported and if legit will result in a ban.

small wing
#

@mighty galleon You have every right to do that, nobodies opinion here on what you do really matters anyways.

#

Block anyone u want

mighty galleon
#

i know

small wing
#

ye

tacit plank
#

You say that Obito, but it's super easy to stereotype people. I can basically tell how people are based on their name, avatar and voice, and I'm right 99% of the time

forest salmon
#

One thing I now love about knuckles is that people now use him creatively.

ruby burrow
#

There's definitely a certain style at least one of the crasher communities is always using. Personally I look more for the blinged out guns, urban/gangsta style clothing, and the floating name tags. They're usually the best warning.

rigid crescent
#

Yeah there's a lot of fun ones now, they've gone up in quality.

sweet meadow
#

Crash=30 sec game restart. I rather restart my game than missing the chance of making a new friend in the oh so social vrchat

vocal shard
#

it is easy to notice the style of a crasher

small wing
#

i just see so many people take offense to opinion and i assume its due to anxiety in situations where the other people in the room dont agree.

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block anyone u want is all im sayin

tacit plank
#

Then do it, Obito, but don't blame other people for thinking differently

rigid crescent
#

No one is saying not to, just that it's stupid to do so.

mighty galleon
#

obito, but what if you're in a middle of a convo and get crashed and didnt friend them?

small wing
#

Not really honestly.

mighty galleon
#

lost them forever

tacit plank
#

Or rather, don't blame VRChat for giving others the power to choose if they want to see you or not

small wing
#

Its smart to the person doing it for themselves.

sweet meadow
#

Lmao remember the name wtf^^

ruby burrow
#

Plenty of people use rainbow rim shaders and other stuff, but there's usually a tell tale attitude to it, rather than just the shader itself.

small wing
#

Sean clearly just doesnt wanna restart his game.

sweet meadow
#

I never go public

upper fox
#

lol, I figured out why vrchat was lagging on my new GTX 1070 ti, apparently SteamVR thinks that 168% SS is appropriate for vrchat

mighty galleon
#

its not easy to remember peoples names

small wing
#

and his choice is to avoid it all together. Pretty smart imo.

rigid crescent
#

To block all users that use a certain shader? That's definitely stupid.

small wing
#

Eh, subjective.

sweet meadow
#

If u go public it is your fault tho

small wing
#

If i could block all bright shaders i would

rigid crescent
#

That's also a stupid thing to say. It's not your fault you get crashed. It's the crashers fault.

sweet meadow
#

Sure

tacit plank
#

Some people have nameplates diabled for immersion

sweet meadow
#

But u know the early state of the game

small wing
#

but you would call me stupid for that too without understanding that bright shaders hurt my eyes and cause migranes.

#

so entirely subjective.

rigid crescent
#

No, because that's a good reason.

small wing
#

πŸ€”

rigid crescent
#

You are caused physical pain by this.

sweet meadow
#

Roleplay/immersion is cringe for me

mighty galleon
#

whats wrong with immersion?

half apex
#

some peeps rp, some dont.

tacit plank
#

Public used to be safe, I played for months before I or anyone I knew got crashed

rigid crescent
#

Compared to "well, what if they're crashers" even though it's just an "Aesthetic" people like.

rough pulsar
#

@upper fox In my experience once you go above 150% SS you get increased performance loss with very little clarity gain.

small wing
#

Well sean is caused mental pain by shaders too lol

ruby burrow
#

How can immersion be cringe? xD

cerulean dust
#

Well, if I see someone with a large gun, a facemask , retarded clothing. And 5 different low performance shaders. I'm assuming they're a crasher.

small wing
#

let him do what he wants

vocal shard
#

When it said they were replacing vets with friends it became sweet to me

rigid crescent
#

Guys getting immersed in a good book, game, movie, or any type of media is just....cringy. Didn't you know?

vocal shard
#

"only real vets are your friends"

rigid crescent
#

that's literally the point of VR

tacit plank
#

Immersion is not really roleplay, it's just enjoying the experience. It's the entire reason people buy VR instead of using a monitor

ruby burrow
#

That's like saying VR is cringe, because it's too convincing compared to watching a powerpoint slideshow.

weary bison
upper fox
#

@rough pulsar explains why I was able to run vrchat without lag earlier this year, then ran into performance problems later

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SteamVR is a pain

half pilot
#

Ah, that's a good idea

half apex
#

i know i made mine late 2017

rigid crescent
#

I'd check your emails

sweet meadow
#

Oof

rough pulsar
#

@half pilot Either your confirmation email, or a url, give me a moment to get it for you

hoary ridge
#

What a bro

vocal shard
#

im getting "vrchat is not responding errors" how does i fix

mighty galleon
#

i play this game to talk with people, and get immersed, and all the other options like shaders, particles and animations break my immersion so im going to like this system for i can block all those things

sweet meadow
#

I made my acc first day i started

mighty galleon
#

and it will help lessen lag

covert chasm
tacit plank
#

It's not in /auth, is it? I forgot the URL

small wing
#

@rough pulsar Could i also get that url for my account?

rigid crescent
#

LOOOOL

small wing
#

I think mine is 2 years, not sure.

rigid crescent
#

ANIMATIONS BREAK YOUR IMMERSION, I'm dead.

rough pulsar
half pilot
#

Crud, I just accidentally edited the wrong message

small wing
#

Thanks a ton!

rigid crescent
#

I guess by using my "surprised" animation, I'm breaking your immersion by showing actual shock at something you've said.

vocal shard
#

tbh

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i think blocking shaders will worsen your immersion

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unless cubed-toon-shaders is allowed pass

rigid crescent
#

Or by making a sad face when you say something disappointing, it also breaks your immersion, yeah?

half pilot
#

My app is lagging, so I'm going to go. Thanks for all your help though ouo/

tacit plank
#

Got any API link Gallium? I don't recall how long I used my Steam account

mighty galleon
#

animation as to where they pop out a bunch of things, or use it to do ridiculous stuff

rigid crescent
#

Cubed and Noe are whitelisted, possibly Xiexe but I haven't tested that one

ruby burrow
#

Kinda depends what they are though Sean. A wizard avatar without their particles is just a loony waving his hands around.

vocal shard
#

okay cool

rigid crescent
#

Except you ahve to block all animations

rough pulsar
#

@tacit plank I've never seen any API properties indicating account creation date. If there are any they're non-public.

rigid crescent
#

You're literally lowing the amount of immersion in the game lol

vocal shard
#

Thanks for that link Gallium

small wing
#

almost 2 years damn

weary bison
#

Xiexe's were, last I checked

ruby burrow
#

A fox girl without her animations will just be staring at you when she tries to AWOOO

tacit plank
#

I think I saw it once, I might be mistaken though

small wing
#

ive been playing a long time

mighty galleon
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idk, most animations i didn't like

vocal shard
#

my account is about a year old

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I started Aug 20th 2017

rigid crescent
#

lol "most animations"

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animations like you described are the vast minority of them

ruby burrow
#

And 50% of avatars without their shaders, will look like shiny playdough.

tacit plank
#

A few months ago, the default /username/name was changed though. It used to include friends, sociallevel and nuisancelevel

sweet meadow
#

Sean is THE alphanormie

rigid crescent
#

Most people have facial expressions, those are the most common type. I get you're set in your ways, but you don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about...

sweet meadow
#

He is the law itself

half apex
#

let him do what he does.

rigid crescent
#

He's just ignorant is all.

hoary ridge
#

OmegaLUL

mighty galleon
#

nah, i just dont like the stuff

tacit plank
#

By animations he doesn't mean shapekeys, but things like spawning a drumset or a spaceship, I think

small wing
#

If vrchat ever blocked shaders entirely i would cry. I use very advanced pbr shaders that they wouldnt even probably know or use themselves. 😦

sweet meadow
#

Sure, im just joking around m8

rigid crescent
#

He does, but he's saying that those are "most" animations.

ruby burrow
#

@blissful solar Also keep in mind that ALL facial expressions, would be disabled by blocking animations. You'll get only the default hand gestures and nothing else.

mighty galleon
#

wrong sean, but i understand that

tacit plank
#

How does the current filter work on animations?

rigid crescent
#

Most animations are facial expressions and the like, and hand gestures.

sweet meadow
#

If creators get restricted more i surely wouldnt have a reason to create stuff anymore

blissful solar
#

Wrong Sean lol

half apex
#

if he really is playing vrchat just for the convo, it should be of no problem.

tacit plank
#

Because animations can currently be used to crash people

rigid crescent
#

It turns them to the default animation things you have in unity

rough pulsar
#

@small wing I feel the same. Unless the unity standard shader ever includes a preintegrated SSS feature, I kinda need shaders for good skin.

rigid crescent
#

Unless you mean the more technical aspect, then I have no clue

small wing
#

@rough pulsar Do you use lux aswell?

tacit plank
#

If you create stuff, your rank will automatically go up Obito

rough pulsar
#

Nah, rolled my own.

small wing
#

Dang

ruby burrow
#

Blocking animations is definitely by far the most effective quick method to kill spam and unwanted effects, but it will also cut out the majority of anything special about an avatar also.

half apex
#

speaking of creating, i need to plan out a new world soon.

rigid crescent
#

I've got no problem with him blocking animations, but assuming "most" animations are the flashy kind is definitely incorrect.

rough pulsar
#

Actually read a bunch of slides and shit from a presentation at Siggraph and did a basic reimplementation of it in amplify shader editor with my own LUT and thickness maps.

sterile drift
#

Many animations aren't really flashy at all

sweet meadow
#

Im trusted even tho many normies blocked me, so im glad atleast the automatic system knows im a good boi

sterile drift
#

Mine are just kinda eh

half apex
#

indeed, he used paticles and animations in a very broad sense.

mighty galleon
#

i see a lot of animations to where they're just pulling stuff out of no where and slashing or hitting people with it

#

and thats mostly annoying

sterile drift
#

I just rip random animations from Pokemon and just place them on my model.

rough pulsar
#

@small wing I can toss you a link if you're interested in reading it.

sterile drift
#

Nothing really flashy about it

small wing
#

@rough pulsar If you are down to send that my way and if its better than lux in certain aspects that would be a nice help.

ruby burrow
#

Mhmm. He can block whatever he wants of course. I was just getting the impression he doesn't realise how much else it will block.

tacit plank
#

Damn, Gallium, you're not half-assing things. Got a link or downloadable example of these things?

rigid crescent
#

He's probably ignorant on how things are because he blocks everything lol

sterile drift
#

lol

small wing
#

Passive agressive

mighty galleon
#

i'd rather have everything block b/c im not in the game to see them

tacit plank
#

Recently I tried looking for shaders to use on regular clothes and skin, and I literally couldn't find any

ruby burrow
#

Since this isn't going to let you choose which kind of animations. Game without animations is a game where no avatar can smile or frown.

rough pulsar
#

It's a node nightmare and kinda specific for my exact use case. When I've got some free time I might have a go at making it more general purpose. @tacit plank @small wing

tacit plank
#

I'd also be okay with whatever shader those niconico videos use. Looks much better than in-game for me

sterile drift
#

No one makes any shaders for skin or clothes, or at least any good ones.

sweet meadow
#

Is that a single billboard? Get blocked + reported for particle spam

sterile drift
#

Either that or no one makes the good ones public

sweet meadow
#

xd

half apex
#

i tried dabbling in the shader scene.

mighty galleon
#

i dont report anyone

rigid crescent
#

You have to be a bot or something lol "i play this game to talk with people, and get immersed" what immerses you if not facial expressions?

vocal shard
#

Good call on the changes in the update lads

sweet meadow
#

Its a joke

empty wharf
#

My man Mark

vast tulip
#

@sterile drift xiexe shader is good for skin

tacit plank
#

Ah, alright. I don't need anything super fancy, just a default shader that doesn't look like metal or plastic.
It would be awesome if you could release anything on the forum though

mighty galleon
#

i dont really look for facial expressions?

half apex
#

it definitely requires knoweledge to be able to get the effects you want.

empty wharf
#

@vocal shard my boy

tacit plank
#

I will check out xiexie

vocal shard
#

@empty wharf :) πŸ‘‹

sterile drift
#

Oh I'd believe it Mimi, Xexie's shader does look really good for a lot of things

sweet meadow
#

Never heard about that

river thunder
#

I've been looking for that one BOTW shader

ruby burrow
#

But... but... facial expressions are the best. ☹

empty wharf
#

My shaders scary boy

tacit plank
#

My character has a great stomach, it needs to look... stomachy

sweet meadow
#

I pray on synlogic's panning outline

empty wharf
#

Nah my characters don’t have faces

#

They have eyes tho

mighty galleon
#

eh, i could live without facial expressions

sterile drift
#

I wanna transfer over some things to use it instead to see how it looks, starting with the NND Compass models of Miku

empty wharf
rough pulsar
sterile drift
#

Rather than the shader I'm using now

weary bison
#

as far as I can remember, xiexe's started life as an attempt to mimic the shaders in BotW

sly veldt
#

@small wing don't worry buddy. I have enjoyed your avatars.

tacit plank
#

Thanks! I will bookmark them

sterile drift
#

@weary bison I assume it did, he even has a shader called "BOtW Eye"

rigid crescent
#

Yeah Xiexe looks great in the right worlds.

empty wharf
#

I respect those highly who mimic big budget games on effects and stuff

sweet meadow
#

Im on phone so no bookmarking xd

tacit plank
#

And download one of them, according to my browser

vocal shard
#

Hi Ron :^)

empty wharf
#

I only breed horror avatars that are original

weary bison
#

it was fun seeing him every few days and looking at how it changed

small wing
#

@sly veldt Thanks a lot man, Been learning a lot about how game development works just because of vrchat alone. ❀

#

I appreciate it a ton.

rough pulsar
#

The second one is the presentation slides from Siggraph @tacit plank

empty wharf
#

I wish Ron would notice my avatars

#

Feels bad man

hoary ridge
#

I notice your avatars <3

sterile drift
#

My avatars are subpar at best honestly

vocal shard
#

I think your avatars are cool Veinhelm

empty wharf
#

They annoy some people, but not a lot of people

small wing
#

@empty wharf Break your back and kick some ass my guy. And if you already are then flaunt that like there is no tomorrow in a world. ❀

sterile drift
#

People usually say I'm good but ehh I completely disagree

ruby burrow
#

Good use of facial expression is what really makes a person stand out for me. In the early days of watching the game on youtube before I'd played it, I was always impressed at Klaus (in Oathmeals videos) and how well he brought things to life with well timed expressions.

empty wharf
#

@small wing ayy lmao. Friend me in VrC my dude same name and all

iron seal
#

it's always funny when facial expressions break because you eventually become a mutant

half apex
#

XD

empty wharf
#

Chill with me sometime dog

ruby burrow
#

Heh, yeah you do have to watch out for that. Both the chair bug and occasionally weird combined ones.

small wing
#

@empty wharf Add me instead, i might forget same name lowercase

sterile drift
#

I usually forget to add some people myself honestly

empty wharf
#

Will do brother

half apex
#

@sterile drift me all the time.

tacit plank
#

Some VR users are super expressive

empty wharf
#

I sure am

#

Meet me in Game you will regret it fully

#

Or enjoy it

rigid crescent
#

The most expressive people I've seen are usually mutes, they know they have to make up for the lack of voice with something

hoary ridge
#

Leg trackers are cool af but niche

rough pulsar
#

You should see me when I get excited and passionate about something caffeine :D

tacit plank
#

They just use expressions and movement to the point where they seem more human than actual humans

empty wharf
#

Gallium I don’t know you well, but I believe that

ruby burrow
#

Yeah. Mutes live by that stuff.

empty wharf
#

Mutes are cool

#

I only go mute to immerse in my avatars

#

But that lasts two seconds lol

tacit plank
#

Haha, I'd like to, do you host VRChat events?

granite coral
#

and then there's me that sometimes is mute

#

and in desktop

hoary ridge
#

Lol

tacit plank
#

I sometimes go mute in VR because my voice fits my loli characters... Rather poorly

half apex
#

hmmm, i've never really gone mute before

river thunder
#

a desktop mute is the worst mute to be

half apex
#

i should try it sometime

neon flume
#

That's part of why I was mute for so long in VRC. It's so fun to try and stay true to your avatar's character and act out their expressions and thoughts.

hoary ridge
#

^

river thunder
#

you cant even express feelings

rough pulsar
#

@tacit plank Used to co-host Power Chords but that's on indefinite break.
I'm often on stage at sunday night improv though.

empty wharf
#

Because you’re the most like able Glacier

#

Why change

granite coral
#

i have to go mute sometimes cause people in my apartment would like to sleep lol

sterile drift
#

lol

hoary ridge
#

It doesn’t help when a cute anime girl is suddenly speaking like a 30 year old man

ruby burrow
#

I've never quite understood desktop mutes. Just enjoying the scenery I guess. At least they're usually unobtrusive. Nothing much to object to.

half apex
#

leedle

empty wharf
#

There’s Sunday night improv? @rough pulsar

#

Holy shit sign me up

sterile drift
#

@empty wharf Look at #events for more details

half apex
#

ooo events

rough pulsar
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@empty wharf Yup, come along to #events, check the pinned messages for the vrc events discord and there's a channel for the show.

granite coral
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depends, most of the times i'm in desktop and mute is cause i'm working on a model or world

tacit plank
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I see. And cool, how do I join an event like that? Some of the events just give links to Google hangout or something, but I don't have a Google account

sterile drift
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Look at VRC Events and look for Improv

river thunder
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what do you use a bake texture for?

sterile drift
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A baked texture as in

ruby burrow
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I've also met a mute star wars clone trooper before. It's kinda bizarre and hilarious, but at least he's got a unique thing going on.

sterile drift
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Baking shadows onto it or...?

rough pulsar
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It's also one of the longest consistently running events in vrchat.

sterile drift
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Just like mapping the texture to the model?

tacit plank
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Could also be a baked texture atlas

river thunder
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yeah

ruby burrow
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Just this abnormally friendly clone trooper, who loves hugs, and expresses everything in mime.

half apex
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i got to learn to bake stuff into textures

tacit plank
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I think I saw him Squishy

half apex
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that trooper is a keeper

empty wharf
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I’ve been a part of Matus Talent Show for a long while

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I’m the sixth or something in his hall of fame

tacit plank
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I saw a big dude in armor recently, he was hiding behind his hands while sneaking around

empty wharf
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Sounds like me

half apex
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oml

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XD

tacit plank
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It's as great as it sounds

empty wharf
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Except I turn the world dark and attack people

half apex
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...

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oh snap

empty wharf
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Respectfully

tacit plank
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Whoever bound "backspace" to "page back" in Google Chrome should be fired

hoary ridge
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LUL

empty wharf
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With the intent to entertain rather than hurt

hoary ridge
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The conversation just loops back

half apex
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i like it

empty wharf
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I like you

half apex
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ooo

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i like you too mate

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πŸ‘Œ

empty wharf
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Let’s be VRC friends

half apex
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sure why not

empty wharf
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Prepare to see totally not self proclaimed best avatars

river thunder
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what about spm textures?

half apex
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lul

empty wharf
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I knew someone was watching

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Always out for vengeance

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No on listen to this meme man

half apex
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i have no idea what spm textures are.

empty wharf
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He’s a REUSE

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I was probably not at my computer

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I have Vrchat just open on my computer

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Listen here pal

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I’m scared don’t hurt me

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But if you do, safe word is pineapple shoe

vocal shard
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Lmao

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My safe word is pineapple juice

empty wharf
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Wow that’s weird why

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The pineapple is silent

vocal shard
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Oh and shoe isn't huh!

empty wharf
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Nope

vocal shard
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Lmao

whole lodge
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Gotta get rid of that elitism

empty wharf
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Exactly

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Plant potatoes in their kitchen

whole lodge
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"Look at all these oranges.. Pfft. Atleast get to purple. To be a purple you have to think like a purple."

empty wharf
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Nah Kareeda

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Shhhh

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No words

sleek pecan
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uh huh, sure.

frozen trout
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It did make me happy to be a vet. Getting some kind of acknowledgement for the work I've done. I hope the feedback system comes out and gives me motivation to work hard on stuff again.

sleek pecan
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what.

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your reward for playing 50000 hours?

empty wharf
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He has popular maps and great avatars

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Post up if you insulting my man Kareeda

rigid crescent
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Kareeda? More like

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DUHreeda

frozen trout
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100 avatars released publicly and several optimizated and used maps.

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but sure 50k hours

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lol

tacit plank
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Kareeda? More like, creator.
I tried

rigid crescent
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and helped others optimize their very, very popular map

whole lodge
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I miss you @frozen trout. Gib content

empty wharf
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Kareedas a real G I love em

frozen trout
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Content in what way Rukio? What kind di you enjoy?

empty wharf
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I’m pissed I don’t have at least Trusted

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Like what have I done

rough pulsar
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The problem with the 1st iteration is it didn't take some factors into account, resulting in some community members who have done tons for vrchat over quite a long period of time not having a rank that reflected that.

frozen trout
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me being in Foxy Vids, RP, Avatars, Tutorials? What content Rukio lol

whole lodge
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Videos were amazing and user friendly. World was also fun to be in

tacit plank
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Example?

frozen trout
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ya i need to do tutorials again, just not sure what to make next

tacit plank
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Is it things like canny posts? Reporting hackers?

whole lodge
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At work. Can't be specific atm

frozen trout
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i might do bone merging and stuff actually

empty wharf
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So you’re saying, I could possibly be a higher rank @rough pulsar

whole lodge
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You too Sombie

river thunder
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where do I put a baked texture on a model?

rough pulsar
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I don't want to name any names, but some users who have been using vrchat for over 2 years, made worlds, run events for a very long time, and were only trusted.

empty wharf
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Because they’re like

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Not good

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I gotcha

vocal shard
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What entails being a good community member?

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I only make worlds and such so I have no idea

whole lodge
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Not crashing people is a plus from me

empty wharf
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So is the Veteran rank picking people out? Or is it on parameters?

vocal shard
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Thats a given xD

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Vet rank got removed all togehter

empty wharf
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Because I remember the VietGanda War

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I’m a vet ye

tacit plank
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Most world creators on my friends lists are vet

half apex
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my lord

hoary ridge
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VietGanda War lol

rigid crescent
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most people in general on my friends list were vet, even the ones without worlds

hoary ridge
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When was this

rough pulsar
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Not doing bad stuff, obviously. But also how much good stuff you do. Welcoming new users, taking them around the place, showing them stuff, introducing them to other people and such.
Integrating yourself into the community, helping others and so on.
Running events.

weary bison
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there were never any hand-picked ranks or promotions

empty wharf
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There’s some veterans I knew who definitely weren’t those types by trade

tacit plank
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But anyone who was there in 2016 to early 2017 probably deserve it if they still log in now and then

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Oh, those make sense, but they're hard to automate

vocal shard
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It makes me happy to see mods participating in the discussion.

trim finch
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Were the ranks based off of the ranks of who's on your friends list at all? Somebody I knew was Trusted then cleared his friends list of people he knew who were banned or of lower rank and it bumped him into Vet the next day.

empty wharf
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I’ve done most of the things on that list and I was only known

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Feelsbadman. Must be the genre of my avatars

rigid crescent
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THe ranks were likely messed with during the beta

vocal shard
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I've done everything except host events I was vet

rough pulsar
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That list I just posted is the kind of things that an automated system can't reliably pick up on.

rigid crescent
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I had a friend who was known, logged off because he only was curious about his rank, and the next day he was trusted

rough pulsar
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And yet are still things that make you a great community member.

weary bison
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@trim finch I believe they changed the weights at one point, I saw five people rank up in one instance

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myself included

trim finch
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Ah ok coincidence then I suppose.

empty wharf
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Yeah i have full confidence that I’ve done stuff in the community to help others around.

tacit plank
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That's true Gallium, we just can't expect it to be done manually

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You can already see how good they are at tagging words "avatar world"... No offense intended, but it is a problem

empty wharf
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Feels good. But I suppose the Genre of my avatars is off putting, hard to trust a guy who uses horror avatars

vocal shard
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My head is spinning this same convo is happening both here and public lobby but it is going much faster there

empty wharf
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especially horror avatars used for first impressions

gloomy valve
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Yeah dont like that

vocal shard
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Or a avatar of a lot of people's fav character

rigid crescent
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Oh, jump scare avatars. The instablockies

gloomy valve
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Yup

vocal shard
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I just make hoppou avatars and slap them in my world so I don't have to worry about them being stolen.

gloomy valve
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Looking at you one piece rock lee

rough pulsar
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Haha oh shit. I don't do well with horror in games. Not even in regular screen & controller/KBM scenario.
Small sound? Nope, now I'm screaming and throwing the controller across the room.

deep ingot
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I like horror stuff VR or not

vocal shard
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Only good Horror map i've seen was the Silent Hill PT world

tacit plank
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Nothing scares me in games, at all. I also can't feel jealousy. Maybe I broke or something

hoary ridge
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Pretty sure you're broken caffeine

river thunder
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and of course all the cel shading shaders are expensive as hell

vocal shard
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Why was vet a thing in the first place? Trusted had the same restrictions

gloomy valve
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Yo we should do a horror map for halloween!

deep ingot
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Meh maybe just a little broke

tacit plank
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I wish we could specify a Steam account on our alt account, and pull stats like friends and playtime from it, to help our main accounts rank.
A lot of old users started out as Steam accounts

gloomy valve
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I like horror movies just nit cheep jumpscares

vocal shard
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I remember the first day i've came to VRChat

river thunder
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Though

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adding a shader would be pointless

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seeing as nobody will see it

vocal shard
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No one knew how to do avatar's or worlds and whenever we saw someone with a custom model everyone would crowd around them in shock or in Aw

tacit plank
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Expectations and bills are scary. My computer not booting is even scarier. Bloody avatars with knives can headpat me all they want

rigid crescent
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The update I'm looking forward to the most is not having to press the "V" key every time I log in to remove it from the HUD

rough pulsar
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First time in vrchat I think I stumbled into some MMD-ish rave and got weirded out and left.
Next time I ran into everyone online, all 10 of them. Got a tour of the place, it was awesome.

whole lodge
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All I want to see. Is someone make it so when someone is holding an item (say a microphone) and they talk into it or near it.

The voice emits from say... Speakers to a crowd in that area..

vocal shard
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Then the Knuckles meme took off

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then died

neon flume
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I wish I had joined VRChat early on, it sounds like there was a great tight knit community. My first experience with vrc was during peak knuckles.

tacit plank
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I remember adding people so that I could join them whenever they went into the private "loli army" base, so that I could get the best avatars

whole lodge
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First time I was in Vrchat, I was at Gaia Night. Knuckles was picking up and I ordered trackers the next day to kick them.

rigid crescent
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I wish I was part of the early VRchat community because people were paying the stupidest prices for the most simple custom avatars

rough pulsar
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A good amount of the old community are still around and some of us do venture out into the northern wilds.

tacit plank
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Lmao Rukio, I thank you for your efforts

river thunder
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I cant find that one botw shader

rigid crescent
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Xiexe?

river thunder
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yeah

rigid crescent
gloomy valve
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Unpopular opinion. Lolis gross me out

whole lodge
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+1

vocal shard
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my veteran rank is gone?

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wowwowowowow

river thunder
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thanks ^_^

whole lodge
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I do love it when they have super deep voices though

vocal shard
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RUKIO

tacit plank
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It's just hidden for now Kuro, still in the API

vocal shard
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you in vr rn

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?

whole lodge
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Yo take off that vet tag kuro

vocal shard
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LOL

whole lodge
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They removed it

vocal shard
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it sk

queen mango
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No, Kuro. I got school today.

tacit plank
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Not atm

vocal shard
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imma make a floater

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XD

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VETERAN FLOATER

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XDDDD

tacit plank
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In the API it's even called "system_trust_legend"

whole lodge
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Is it bad whenever you xd I can hear your laugh

tacit plank
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I had the idea of adding a shiny effect to my name plate though, so that vet would look like a gold bar 😦

vocal shard
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lol

queen mango
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Oh my, XD.

vocal shard
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imma make my Veteran VIP tag now

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XDDDDD

hoary ridge
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Oh no

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Rank floaters

whole lodge
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Thought floater was when somebody did something in a pool

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Just saying

vocal shard
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vrpill

tacit plank
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Floaters are also the things that get in front of your view whenever you look around with a light in front of you

vocal shard
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when do i get my beta client back

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?

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imma be vrpill for halloween

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πŸ˜„

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hah no idea

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put a red circle on my head

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and then i can take it off

woven stone
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we already prepared Halloween hoppous

sterile drift
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Friend of mine gave me an idea of putting my trainer in Lillie's clothes.

woven stone
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but we are already kinda creepy, so i will just add up

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*it

tacit plank
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My world needs halloween dakimakuras

weary bison
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oh god, everyone looks spooked with the jpeg artefacts

river thunder
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I love how the editor is able to ever so easily hotload new compoments

vocal shard
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We definitely want to point people to Halloween themed rooms in late October, even if they aren't part of the contest.

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So we'll have a way to highlight them

hoary ridge
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"Spooky Maps!"

tacit plank
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Will nameplates be disabled again?

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For the extra spooks

sterile drift
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Spoop maps

vocal shard
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Will try my best for the nametag stuff. Not sure though since we've made a lot of changes with the nametags on the trust beta

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I totally want nametags off too. Makes it more spooky

woven stone
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maybe on the spoopy maps only?

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^^

vocal shard
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Oh if they were off it would only be on the Halloween rooms that wanted it

whole lodge
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Wonder if there is a shader to make it look like something is following you

woven stone
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We have that

vocal shard
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yeah

woven stone
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a shadow that is lingering behind you

vocal shard
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the hoppou shader

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its the eye tracking shader

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you put in on the head

woven stone
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@vocal shard welll who do you think it is coming from HAHA πŸ˜„

vocal shard
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lol

whole lodge
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You'll have to show me

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As long as it's not that annoying one people were using with the smash meme

vocal shard
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just stick the eye tracking shader on a sphere

tacit plank
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Cool, thanks ^^

woven stone
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the first iteration of teh Hoppou had a tongue that could extend through rooms, so you could lick everyone at the same time

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but we deemed that cancer

vocal shard
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lol

woven stone
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and left it out

tacit plank
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I have 3 hoppous

whole lodge
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I mean

tacit plank
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The third is a version with nipples

whole lodge
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On a ghastly model

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It would fit

tacit plank
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So I moved her neckthingy down to cover them

woven stone
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lol, seems like someone found the rare Hoppou model #4

tacit plank
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It wasn't easy to find, but I did it

brave depot
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πŸ€”

tacit plank
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I also met a guy with a custom one. The eyes looked super good and his pupils would shrink if he looked towards light. It was awesome

woven stone
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Some people try to get rid of it and some come back to find it 😒

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Hmm

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was that Zander

tacit plank
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I forgot his name, but possibly

whole lodge
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I was going to do the whole
"Thank you for your service.."
To all the vet ranked players

tacit plank
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Me and my friend called eachother "ledge" due to the legend tag

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I considered making an avatar with was an actual ledge, for the joke

small wing
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I have some ideas for an avatar, but its under lock because someone could easily do it before me.

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lets just say, its very punny.

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me no like being spook

rough pulsar
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Oh no
PUNS

small wing
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anxiety disorders and haloween are a sin

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someone should call god up on the telephone and tell him to fix that

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i wanna be spook but i only get hurt

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big sad

tacit plank
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I have anxiety, but halloween maps just look cozy to me

vocal shard
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imma drop some world particles with distance fade on them

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so when people walk into them they get scared

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XDDDD

tacit plank
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Mod the distance fade so that it shows up instantly rather than gradually

vocal shard
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πŸ˜‚

tacit plank
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And use a translated billboard, so that it shows up right in front of them when they get within 5 meters

indigo fern
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Jump scare tier :0

vocal shard
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πŸ˜‚

tall ingot
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Can anybody watch videos in worlds that are supposed to let you watch videos? Like hangout house?

vocal shard
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yes

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my world can

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and mine is more optimized than hangout house

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πŸ‘Œ

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but it isnt public yet

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because i just started on it

woven stone
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@tall ingot cinema in space is really good, just be sure to be the first one to enter the instance

dim aurora
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anyone else having a hard time getting on

tacit plank
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No, but I'm having a good time getting hard

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Couldn't resist. Check your connection I guess

whole lodge
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You sat on that joke for quite awhile

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Was on the edge of my seat

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Waiting

river thunder
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I just realised

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the model im trying to use has no neck bone

tacit plank
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I couldn't decide if I wanted to write "Getting it on" or "getting hard"

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Make it into a toddler then Sky