#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 546

shadow wagon Sep 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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no

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Nope

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Ur separated forever

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Friends list gone, banned

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Thanks for the exaggeration mate

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Yeth

shadow wagon Sep 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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👍

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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But real talk, you cannot interact

noble dirge Sep 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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you see, they say that

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Same thing as if you update and your friends were already online

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You won't see those friends in the same world, even if it says

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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Well I gave it a try, and it didn't worked. But a friend of mine says, that someone else tried it, and it "works"

noble dirge Sep 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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but one of my friends was in the beta, im not, and we could still interact with each other thonkCircle

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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^ That's exactly what he told me

noble dirge Sep 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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i could tell they were because they had the updated name tags on their side

ebon bear Sep 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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i was wondering when the kitchen in the great pug is gonna be open

noble dirge Sep 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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so once again, shit dont work as intended lmao

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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I sure hope it's not a 50-50 thing

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Or welp, I guess it already is

supple bison Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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@ebon bear hint, use the pot

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That is all

ebon bear Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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yh ano

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Well in #announcements it says, but you can try if you'd like

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It's only a 70mb difference anywho

cobalt jetty Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Can anyone help me to publish my custom character?

supple bison Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Me obibo

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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I really think the next update will ruin many things, if not entire vrchat, if u put users into different classes of "worthy".

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XD

supple bison Sep 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Lmao

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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u summoned me

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😛

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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People already do that tho

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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yes

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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I was thinking about it as well

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Custom model, vr, full body, desktops, etc.

fallen raft Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Good thing Im a "known user" hah

cobalt jetty Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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It is ready in Unity, but when I hit the publish button, it gives me a screen saying I cannot

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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but irl, u cannot block a street performer dancing, u have to see these dancers, you can walk by them, as they were therte before you.

cobalt jetty Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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There are no errors

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Play more

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You can stop them for sure

supple bison Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Shows who in the lobby to go to if they have questions

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Punch the street performer

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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so next update is big strike agains content creators.

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Obito irl you can't crash people out of this world by particles either

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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That's just frowned upon

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Or maybe in the near future you can

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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The amount of crashers in vrchat is barely 2% of the players

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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ARchat when

supple bison Sep 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Gunpowder is 🅱refabs, brb making particles

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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I mean, i can understand everything, shiny armor, might be a bad guy. Totally, but getting blocked on sight already hurts enough

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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I agree with that at least

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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4Head cant make my own stuff 4Head prefab are my only power 4Head you guessed it 4Head im a vrchat crasher 4Head

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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The hero we deserve

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:37 PM

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but what im saying is u only need to fix crashes, and there definetely is a different way than restricting everyone. I mean sure, VIP rank would be a nice thing tho, even tho that would be a only streamer thingy

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:38 PM

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That might be possible, but generally it would mean putting restrictions on a different set of things, and eventually even taking away the freedom of development

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Like there are some general ways people have figured out, like limiting particles etc

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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im not critizing in a bad way, i only see the upcoming update as heavily problematic

quartz shale Sep 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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Ye I see where you're getting at

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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What's up my fellow legends?

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:40 PM

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I still fail to see how more filter options in the new update is a bad thing

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Kidding, we're all equal as humans, it's very funny to write though

shadow wagon Sep 22, 2018, 7:40 PM

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i want a disable dynamic bones option and im fine

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Unless the argument is for the fact that the all or nothing approach has most people gearing towards leaving everyone unblocked if they actually want to meet anybody and see their avatars

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Give me a disable cloth physics pls

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 7:41 PM

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To be fair- The system is fairly dope but its an steep curve for new people to get into making avatars and animations...
And its also an tad random/unfair towards current users

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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i dont see a reason into creating avatars anymore

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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That's a momoko avatar!

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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How so? Doesn't the current system have a probation system for content uploads anyway?

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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to get harsh, this game is flooded with normies that can't take a single particle or annoying streamers that ruin your day

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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I create content all the time. Effects, shaders, avatars, all of that

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Never had an issue with people being upset at anything

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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@jovial oriole The diffrent from being to upload and not upload already makes some users who come for the creative part angry

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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Right time and right place

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 7:43 PM

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Not to mention, closed groups and streamers tend to block/mute their friends in a joking manner. I don't think there's any way to seperate a fake block from a real one.

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 7:43 PM

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When the base settings are "Only Polygons" its even more unfun for them

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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If you can't wait 20-30 hours to upload your avatars, you're an impatient human being

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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But this is like having laws in the real world right? Some are good for people and bad for others, and there are loopholes, but that's why you have judges who look at the individual circumstances of each case.

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I don't think a probation period is a bad thing, but we need to balance how long this is for so it isn't open to abuse and doesn't hurt content creators

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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What if you made a mistake

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Had to reupload?

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 7:45 PM

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@tacit plank What if i need 30 more hours to show off (with the base settings as im fairly sure we can assume most users will use those) not use particles then? (or even custom animation, unsure when you unlock uploading and custom animations)

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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And content creators also need to make some accommodations too, after all, should you really be putting all that time into creating content for a game world you won't even invest a good amount of time in exploring?

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Think of it like this. Those longer time frames are to get to know people, to see what people do. What they like or don't lime

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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@jovial oriole can you put people into different classes and judge and restrict them in a disrespectful manner irl? No, you cant?

visual zealot Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Like eve

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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There will be ups and downs for the system, I highly doubt the team will leave it in an unusable state, so letting what happens happen is fine with me, but it does seem a tad strict from a glance.

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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You can, its called ostracization @sweet meadow

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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That's fine I think

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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And if you like this update because you are epileptic for example and be safer now, you should remember that you shouldn't play this game at all

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Most people reach 30 hours before they know what animations even are

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:47 PM

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The laws of physics don't prevent people from being ostracized, and neither does this system, its the people who are responsible for that.

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 7:47 PM

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What about someone like Pan? That fella makes insane content for VRC and isnt maxed rank :lul:
He has fairly sure shown with his worlds being popular and all and his friends list that he isnt anything bad

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:47 PM

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it is only about the streamers that didn't even influence that much

restive rune Sep 22, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Oh noooo. I wanted to play VRChat on Halloween but i am not in town

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D:

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Oh and hi everyone

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:48 PM

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hi

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 7:48 PM

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If you want to make avatars from day 1, you probably already knew about VRChat and just spend too much time on your steam account

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:48 PM

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i saw the animation videos

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Its not like its clear what you can and cant do with an steam account when you start out

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 7:48 PM

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that is why i joined

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:49 PM

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I'm pretty sure I was able to make an account and upload content in a relatively short amount of time

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maybe less than a week, and less than three days worth of playtime

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I say days but really I mean like 8 hours

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Could add something like a message saying "Hi - We've noticed that you're currently playing on a Steam account. You are free to do so, but you can gain access to extra features such as custom avatar and world uploads if you create and log into a VRChat account"

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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They could and it would have fixed a lot of problems that are a thing now and where a thing in the past (like, from the second the trust system was a thing)

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But right now or in the beta AFAIK its not an thing

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 7:55 PM

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So speaking of content creation is anyone making Halloween avatars? I'll be disappointed if I don't see people with candy baskets.

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I hate to change the topic abruptly, but I've found that players with the beta can still talk with me/see me despite what's been going around. Is that generally what happens or do normal users sometimes not show up?

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:00 PM

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Jasyidk

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:02 PM

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Beta users can only see beta users
Live client users can only see live client users

Are you saying its different/bugged

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Like that an beta user is talking to an live build one?

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:02 PM

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They might be taking about those they try to use the beta client in live mode....

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who wants to play some vr wiff me uwu

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Which is broken and not recommended

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o.o

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:04 PM

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by the way, i can't see the problem with the next update, like, the entire filter is completely customizable, so if you want you can set it to show everything on everyone

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+you can enable features on a per user basis

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if you really want

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 8:04 PM

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yes

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Most people are fine with that, and want that

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 8:04 PM

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the disabling and complete ceasing of other ppl's art, which made this game big

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it doesnt deserve a place and tolerance here

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:04 PM

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It's publicly displaying ranks that got most people upset

sweet meadow Sep 22, 2018, 8:05 PM

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+that

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:05 PM

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@granite coral I think most people have more of an problem with there current 'rights' being reversed without any clear reason as to why X person gets a high rank while Y doesnt.
And that the start up curve for new users becomes even larger

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And well as jamie said- That thing is what bugges me the most

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:05 PM

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^

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:06 PM

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agree on that, is a bit rude, but doesn't affect me too much, may be just a personal opinion

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:06 PM

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i find it kind of fun though

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gave me a target to work on

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:07 PM

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also i guess like 3 tiers + friends level would be more than enough of a separation

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:07 PM

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I think VRChat is a platform for socialising and personal expression, and watching streamers is what brought me to this community, I think the art enhances that, but is not integral to it

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and there is such a thing as bad art

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:07 PM

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i mean the color thing, i still hate the default for greenies 😩

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:07 PM

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The public display ranks thing is something I can at least understand

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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If you /just/ wanted an social platform with fun people-
Well you are on one right now, its imo far from the reason why VRC is popular
VRC's main appeal compared to all other social playforms or even other social VR games is its being able to upload things
Make an personality within the game that is YOU

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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People don't want to be excluded because of an arbitrary rank

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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but for the whole feature blocking thing, it's an option, one more instrument for the end user, so i don't understand some people hating that part of the update

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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@umbral reef Someone using the beta client complimented me on my avatar, so I'm not sure how it works

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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I wouldn't say its the main appeal

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But I do think that everyone has different draws to the game

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:09 PM

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I've installed the beta client and intent to mess around with it, so I'll see how it works soon

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:09 PM

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I don't think VRChat's entire community is built on any one thing, we all got our reasons to be here

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:09 PM

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@granite coral Well read what i wrote earlier...
Peeps are being set back from what they now can. Have no idea why or what someone are not being set back...
Also new users are getting an even more steep curve to get into VRC's special reason to play

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:09 PM

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well, if you were excluded because of your rank, then you wouldn't like to hang around these kind of people

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so in the end it doesn't matter

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:10 PM

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you're not set back on anything

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:10 PM

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I think that's a little bit over generalized @thick flare

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It's a social game, and there are as many social situations as there are people.

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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i mean, if someone excluded me from their social circle because i am a greenie

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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So my animations are not being scuffed towards most users within the game ...?
Because the default settings is what i think most users will use- Or they will set them up illogically..
Hell- The VRC community is fairly uneducated when it comes to avatars...

small wing Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Okay so im willing to make a map for this contest but im really wanting to push the gore and aggression factor on my map. I read the community guidelines and it said nothing on the sort, but im checking in with you guys to make sure. <@&397642795457970181> Is heavy amounts of blood and guts allowed for this?

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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i wouldn't want to hang around with them

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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if someone can't see your shader, is cause they decided to block that, not cause the game decided so. i would agree if the limitations were a fixed thing, but since they're not is not a problem

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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They think 10K polygons is better then 20K and that stuff

small wing Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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I read up on nudity, will be avoiding that

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but is gore allowed?

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Here's the thing about the public displays.... Say someone has been a part of the community for almost a year... Within the forums, chatting helping people with unity.... But doesn't play much because they spend almost every waking moment refreshing pages to help people on various chat sites helping them with the game and unity.... But they don't get much time actually in the game.
They dedicated all this time to helping others, and now when the log in, they are seen as just a basic user who probably can't even be trusted. And the default safety settings block their stuff

Now you have e a streamer who doesn't know anything about he game, or care about helping anyone. But they get a trusted role because they're popular. . Doesn't seem fair

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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@small wing The rule was "Have it be PG13"

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As well- The game is an 13+ game

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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i know you are referring to yourself Jamie

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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@vocal shard Lmao its been a thing where people with 1K hours playtime are just basic users

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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had been seeing you helping out a lot on steam forum

kind wedge Sep 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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@small wing we're not really the people to ask 🤷

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Question... Why do I get notified whenever admins, Team Members or Senior chat mods get tagged***???***

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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And meanwhile there are also a fair bit with less hours but even juts buddies with users that got the second highest rank or the highest

kind wedge Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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We're not employees, so we don't really know.

small wing Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Dang

edgy storm Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Probably better to make use of the email

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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There was already an increase in a social standing when streamers started playing.. I feel like the ranking system is a fun idea, but the execution needs to be extremely well done.

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Gore is probably fine, avoid the R18 stuff

kind wedge Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Yeah, try emailing support about it.

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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@kind wedge https://i.imgur.com/Qf0Xryx.png

small wing Sep 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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I guess i will play it safe then and instead go the "down the rabbit hole" route.

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Anbd well same mention to the dude asking whats allowed and not

small wing Sep 22, 2018, 8:14 PM

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really wanna make people leave this map outta fear alone though

trim hamlet Sep 22, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Yeah, we're not really the ones to ask, but a good rule of thumb is to keep it PG-13

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Reminder that more blood does not make something more scary :P

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Whoever asked about gore, probably keep it to blood

velvet quarry Sep 22, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Best bet would be not to overdo it, Pill did mention that one should avoid stuff in the area of "Hostel" or "Saw"

quiet prawn Sep 22, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Screw that. ... we need Evil Dead levels of blood

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Human bloodsacks*?*

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Uh, yes, can I get a room flooded with blood? Happy snorkeling.

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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the question is: can i throw arms to people or not? lul

small wing Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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omg lol

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Make it all robot arms :^)

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Green blood

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EZPZ PG13 rating instead

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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:v) so tru

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Just watch Dexter S1 Bunny

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Lol

granite coral Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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that's robo recall then, not horror

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Pink blood

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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So... Oil being spewed everywhere*?*

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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did you jmentioned green?

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Awe, come on, we're just having fun.

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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@river star NO

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Drink some green blood with us

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join the cult : ^ )

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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how dare you

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you hurt the feeling of the greenies

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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It's healthy and eco-friendly 🙃

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Exactly

quiet prawn Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Where is a world dedicated to
Bruce Campbell?

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Cost efficient

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Plus*!* It can be used as better fertilizer when filtrated by the body 🙃 ¡

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:19 PM

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Exactly, plus green food coloring is way easier to get than red

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Back on topic, though.. Who else is working on a Halloween avatar atm?

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:19 PM

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i want to

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:19 PM

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~~May include green blood~~

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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but i can't think of anything else other than anime avatar

quiet prawn Sep 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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Horror doesn't need to involve blood or gore or any of that

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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so i probably won't join

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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I can't even play because I don't have a 64bit PC 😭

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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@quiet prawn So true, but it can :^)

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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;/

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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@vocal shard Easy fix, use your Nintendo 64

placid umbra Sep 22, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Nintendo 64 Classic when :(

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Nintendo Online SNES when lol

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:21 PM

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@quiet prawn you are thinking about horror that mostly involves sounds and a love craftian tinge to it

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Abobo's big adventure 2 (16-bit era) when*?*

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Are we allowed to link videos here?

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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yes, if ruubick is not awake

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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You can link it here, except its more effective on random

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Lol

velvet quarry Sep 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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You're not allowed to advertise videos here

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That'd be in #vrchat-videos

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:23 PM

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If it's a VRChat video, to #vrchat-videos you go.

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@cold void I've never had a Nintendo 64 to begin with 😭

cold void Sep 22, 2018, 8:23 PM

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Oh shoot :' ) me neither tbh

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:23 PM

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I'll just DM it

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:24 PM

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But really though, first time having to need a 64bit processor for anything 🤔

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32bit to 16bit usually did the job fine for many things...

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Last Windows version to be fully 16-bit was Windows 3.1, between 1992-1993. lol

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I really wanted to walk around in Raven Vr's Hidden Leaf Village, but I'll have to wait (2-3 years) until I can afford a 64bit processor

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@vocal shard I used Windows XP up to 1 year and a half ago, ok*?*

quiet prawn Sep 22, 2018, 8:28 PM

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Nope, not quite

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:29 PM

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how old is your pc then

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Still though, I think I'll use this need as a reason to push myself foward iris

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:30 PM

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as 64bit cpu's are the norm since 2014

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even before 64bit was normal

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probably your windows is the 32 bit version

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:33 PM

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If you want to go cheaper than Intel, there's always the Ryzen and even the AMD FX series that supports X86-64 instruction set.

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@grand thistle had like three used PC's one from 2002 and one from 2004 which both started withering with time and stopped working, and used a 2006 used pc since 2008 up until 2017 even after when Windows XP's were not supported anymore, it works but I haven't used it in a while because I can't use a mouse, a keyboard and a WiFi router at the same time, only ethernet, keyboard and mouse...

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XP extended support dropped in 2014 tho 🤔

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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you can get a cheap pc that has an older i5 like the 4000 series for cheap

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and just put a good gpu in it and then it's good enough for most things

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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And my brother occupies the ethernet of our internet and he has a Windows 7 pc, so... It's like being handicaped while using the windows 7 pc

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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just depends on were you live but it's under 600usd you can have it or less depends on the deal you find

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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@vocal shard sorry had a typo 😐

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No worries

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:38 PM

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you could event get a pc for 400 usd that can play vr if you get a good used pc

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but that is realy hunting for it

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:38 PM

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don't risk it

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most of the time you get a mined gpu

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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My brothers PC has all the necessary tools to run vrchat, except for a 64bit processor

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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i know of a youtuber who has a bought a ton of mined gpu's and it isn't a problem as they all work

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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64bit cpus are the norm since 2014

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try 2008

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:40 PM

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most of them is they are dead are under warranty so you can get a free new one

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 8:40 PM

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everything branded as "Core" from intel was 64-bit capable

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Some guy just played a shitty song about someone playing vrchat and getting gpu crashed

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And played it before crashing everyone

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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wow that is not nice

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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!outputlog

floral flaxBOT Sep 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:42 PM

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so i guess if you heard something about crashing leave immediatly

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Yeah, it's like the remaining crashers are just the worst type.

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@tacit plank please don't tell me you restarted vrchat before getting the outputlog

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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I have it still

glass frigate Sep 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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@safe prism try 2003

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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The song sounded like "hurt my gpu"

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:44 PM

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in the past people tought it could destroy hardware wich has been proven wrong

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:45 PM

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I know, still annoying

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Arrogant enough to record a song

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 8:45 PM

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2003 sounds better

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:45 PM

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But really though, it's weird when whenever the discord senior chat mod, team member or Admin gets pinned I get notified.
Also I have error 1008 whenever trying to access the vrchat site through my tablet (O_0)...

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:45 PM

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I ripped the song out of the cache (I know I'm not supposed to, but I needed to confirm)

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:45 PM

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i rember the crash guns people had with particles it couldn't crash some gpu's

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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My game crashed, my GPU is fine

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Now I'm wondering... how do they target ONE person in particular ? Like... some people can crash just one person in a room it seems.

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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distance shader

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Local particles

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Opt into the particle filter, it deletes that layer automatically

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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or not completly the crash particels i had them fired on me one time my game wasn't responding on my old pc but it responded back after later used a gtx 750

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Strange. I still got crashed even with the particle limiter on.

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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it was they tought i had crashed the person who fired it at me but i didn't

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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because there are more than one type of crash

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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What a mess...

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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that was back when crashing started now it has just gone too far

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:48 PM

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particle limiter only stops particle crashing

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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At least the new trust system might prevent lots of other types of crashes.

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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the new system in the beta is made so it stops people from crashing but some people will still crash

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Crashers will evolve as much as there will be anti-crash methods

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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crasher then will try to get access to other people's accounts and hack them and crash on their accs till they lose access to the account or the account is banned

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that is what is probably gonne happen

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Although lets be honest one or two dedicated people will figure it out first and then a bunch of script kiddies will employ the same exploits

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:50 PM

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but most of the crashing is gonna stop

thick flare Sep 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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uses 3rd party client

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ohhh i am now a hacker

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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back in the past i found a mayor security flaw that has been fixed now

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Username was "RHYUGA" if enough people block him, he will likely be labeled troll

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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So... The moderation will probably be dealing with Crashers like curefinders deal with illnesses...

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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but if a flaw like that comes back i'm gonna quit completly

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Avatar was a ferret with a fishing pole

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Although... the accounts are hosted on Amazon servers right ? If so, good luck hacking that.

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:54 PM

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getting into servers is easier then some people think but it depends if you know how networking works

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but never get into servers illegaly

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:56 PM

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Probably true for other servers than amazon

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Amazon is not going to allow people to hack their servers with no repurcussions

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:57 PM

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just depends how far in the amazon servers it's save as there are networks that aren't on the internet but can be accessed if you can get access to the main server of amazon

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 8:57 PM

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If passwords are salted and encrypted properly, it shouldn't be a problem either way

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:58 PM

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but they should have good protection but not impossible that is always the case

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 8:58 PM

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"Today, I gonna hack Google !" said little 10 years old Jimmy. 😆

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:58 PM

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I guess its a question of do you really feel like hacking a corporate conglomerate just to get back at John Smith

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Its also posible to become an real magic human being and know everything (so all passwords)

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Still does not mean its an realistic thing

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 8:59 PM

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most likely people don't get in but people can get into everything pretty much

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 8:59 PM

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Any network can be hacked potentially

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:00 PM

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I remember a case in another game where someone got access to an admin account without knowing the pass.

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:00 PM

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i could get access to a lot of people's pc but i don't i don't want to do illegal things

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:00 PM

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They did some shit with php

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:00 PM

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i just use the knowleg to protect systems of people who don't know anything

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Drag your honestly just sound like an script kiddy...

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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^

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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ho oclac

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hi*

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Attempts to brute-force all 59,873,693,923,837,895,000 password possibilities of a 10 characters password that uses letters (including caps), numbers and special characters.

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Wow, he really does.

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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I think indiscriminately hacking people would get you the wrong kind of attention too.

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Eyo sean

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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i'm just a network manager in study but i have played with some tools

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Brute force no bueno

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Still does not change anything... Your using vague as fuck things and as i stated before... anything can be hacked but its about how realistic it is.
Getting aces to server/pc's themself often isnt to hard with companies but once you go to an big enough (or small enough) scale its not a thing that works

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:03 PM

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But I think its besides the point really that a hacker should actually go through all that effort to hack someone, when social hacking is also another tool in their toolset

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they can always use words to get what they want

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Social engineering hit us hard at home depot btw

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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The weakest security point is and will always be the human factor.

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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always the human holding the door open

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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@lethal meteor What do they do to Home Depot ? 😮

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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that is true after that it's faults in software

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or using crapy protection

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Got access to a shit ton of accounts with personal info

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Oh.

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Like credit cards, etc

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Getting nostalgia about phising cons now

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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ncix account's also got leaked

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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"yeah just login with your account like normal"

coarse anchor Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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The only Scary about VRChat's Halloween are the Jumpscare like crashes

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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XD

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Advanced crashes ._.

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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the reason ncix accounts got leaked was they paid their depts with the servers with all the data on on

coarse anchor Sep 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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You never know what else it takes down

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its like a Horror Movie

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One Program after another

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Who's ncix?

coarse anchor Sep 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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First VRChat itself, then Steam, then maybe Windows?

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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it used to be a store in canada

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a big technology retailer

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Ah

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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they're bankrupt by now tho cirThink

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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i'm not from canda but have heard that from techlinked that all the data for sale

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Telltale got bankrupt as well :<

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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like gamestation and maplins rip

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gamestation got bought out by game, but technically they are under administration too

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also toys r us

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Toys r us rip

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Toys R Us still exist in Canada 😄

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Are they still alive in canada?

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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yup

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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let's hope they wiped their drives when giving their servers to the persons claiming the dept

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not like what ncix did

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 9:09 PM

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The guy who crashed me has a steam account.
Which has his name in it

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:10 PM

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well he is gonna be in trouble

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or she

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:10 PM

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~~they~~

coarse anchor Sep 22, 2018, 9:11 PM

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telltale deerved bankrupcy

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Crappy samey games whit barly anny effort put into it

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:11 PM

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~~IT~~

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@coarse anchor #general-media

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Let's finish twd in vrchat

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:11 PM

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i'm not native English so it's hard

odd blaze Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Telltale wont remember that

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Lol

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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It's some edgy furry lol

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Lets ~~crash~~ move in #general-media I guess ?

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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never liked telltale, its art choice was ugly as hell

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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It's stylized

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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ugl

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Not bad

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Failed comic book look*?*

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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the look is just horrendous to me

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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it was fine for borderlands, because that's what borderlands looked like already lol

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Inb4 mods redirect us to #general-media any second o3o

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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i only heard over telltale the company when they made minecraft story mode

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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@vocal shard hey, I said #general-media first, so dibs

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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helton is a poor non mod

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dont listen to it

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Random-chat (tm), presented by @vocal shard

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:15 PM

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in random chat

buoyant locust Sep 22, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Hey there

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Avatar help question incoming...

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Hey

grave dagger Sep 22, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Does anyone know if VRChat will ever have two-factor authentication?

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 9:20 PM

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oh god

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that would be exceptionally annoying

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:21 PM

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But strongly recommended if you're a streamer

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 9:21 PM

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i wouldn't do the industry standard ones like that, i'd go for steam style or hardware 2fa

grave dagger Sep 22, 2018, 9:21 PM

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or for anyone in 2018 really

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 9:21 PM

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because typing shit in vr in under 30 seconds is a joke

grave dagger Sep 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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well, theres features where you only have to do it once and your computer gets "trusted"

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Just make an app for the phone that ask you if you want to authorize the logging in.

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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but what if you don't want to trust it

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Press one button, done.

grave dagger Sep 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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the problem is that passwords arent as safe as they used to be

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Oh really?

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 9:23 PM

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no one's gonna argue that

grave dagger Sep 22, 2018, 9:23 PM

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and with ranks now people will probably want higher tiered accounts

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so you get the gist of what might happen

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 9:23 PM

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just from a purely UX perspective for VR

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something has to be thought out

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Try decrypting an sha-256 string

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Or whatever modern encryption algorithm that's being used

safe prism Sep 22, 2018, 9:24 PM

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i'm into magic links too GWllentThinkPika

grave dagger Sep 22, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I guess i'm just being paranoid XD

hidden pebble Sep 22, 2018, 9:32 PM

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hewwo

worldly viper Sep 22, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Yo#

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Dino?

cinder viper Sep 22, 2018, 9:40 PM

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does anyone know if there is a boxing ring / world or if you could do any of that stuff in vr chat?

worldly viper Sep 22, 2018, 9:44 PM

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If you cannot find one it is possible to upload a map.

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 9:46 PM

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If you ever want to look into who crashed you by browsing avatar files - don't

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You will find unspeakable horrors like 43mb animation files

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 9:47 PM

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that doesn't sound too bad

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:47 PM

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😣

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 9:48 PM

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It's an animation at the size of a vrchat world, it is horrible

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It also has 50+ meshes and 50+ materials

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I feel robbed off of bandwidth

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:50 PM

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50 materials ? O.O

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Maybe the VRChat team will limit that someday ¯_(ツ)_/¯

forest salmon Sep 22, 2018, 9:51 PM

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50+ Materials, that's a big oof for me

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Just missing 26 dynamic bones too, then...

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

floral flaxBOT Sep 22, 2018, 9:52 PM

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┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:52 PM

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XD

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 9:55 PM

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If you hear something which sounds like "don't hurt my bpu", block that guy because your game has about 10 seconds left to live otherwise

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 9:58 PM

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I wonder if it would crash if one would activate the panic mode ?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:00 PM

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That would make you safe from anything but malicious network packets

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:02 PM

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wait can vrchat mess up your computer?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:02 PM

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Shouldn't

forest salmon Sep 22, 2018, 10:03 PM

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not really can't really damage hardware

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especially if your motherboard has safety features, which most have by default

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Messed mine up a bit once, but I think that was a bug rather than a crasher, because it only happened to me, and when I was using a macro which was too fast and caused a bufferoverflow

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:04 PM

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Dust has messed up my laptops more then any crash so far GWtogaTheSaddest

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:04 PM

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If I use the macro in a text editor, it will start writing random words... Anyways, I used my macro some time and my computer crashed

forest salmon Sep 22, 2018, 10:04 PM

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dust and water

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I restarted and my vrchat was still installed, but not visible in Steam. My output log was like 1000s of "null" characters

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:04 PM

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To be fair- Once my old laptop is like not just an old heater with music player

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Like if one of the two dies

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:05 PM

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damn they should really have more safety precautions for game crashers.. Like how vrchat SDK can be modded to have more space or whatever.

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:05 PM

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I plan to repair it in a meme as fuck way just for an video

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Where i properly repair it but also hose it down with water and stuff GWoooKarenSugoi

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:05 PM

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But usually, people can only tell you to render too much of something, which will freeze your game

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:05 PM

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@maiden hound Lots of the stuff is just unity being unity but the next update fixes a lot of stuff

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:06 PM

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oh thats great, my computers overheated a lot and i've been ear-raped yesterday at 2am. scared the crap out of me

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But yeah, is the update going to stop people from modding the SDK would you think?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:08 PM

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They can mod it all they want, the in-game filter will stop it

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Btw I recommend having your sounds on 20% of less as default

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:09 PM

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how do game crashers get passed the filter then?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:10 PM

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They don't

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:10 PM

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hm?

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Its not yet implemented yet- Its an BETA thing so far

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double yet

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I maybe should sleep GWtogaTheSaddest

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:12 PM

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😂 heh, well I hope the spend a bit more focus on the game crashers. But I dont develop any games, so I don't know if its even possible right now 😂

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Some of the fixes are easy, some are almost impossible

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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yeah, they could find ways around it, like vrchat mods reviewing the animations, or you could even just remove animations with particles and stuff... Only dances i guess?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Just enforce limits better, like deny audio files with "+20Db" gain

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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like so only the avatar moves, nothing adds on

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Reviewing avatars manually is unrealistic to do

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Setting up logical limits gets people a lot further

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:16 PM

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yeah but there are many ways to prevent things

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:16 PM

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And well- the beta system helps alot with trolls and not just bad optimized stuff

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Manually? Sure. Automatically? Not too hard for basic limits

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The beta system should work though, yeah, until trolls find out how the tags are granted

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I'm fairly sure I could get an account to the highest rank in a day or two

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:17 PM

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I'm not experienced with 3d animations, but they use frames, right?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:17 PM

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Dance animations are fine, spawning 100 meshes is not fine though

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Well I guess that could be legit too

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:18 PM

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Getting one account to an high enough level to troll to just get banned within a day again...

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Almost all trolls are to lazy for that

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:18 PM

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What if animations just dont spawn meshes in general? Only the avatar

jaunty apex Sep 22, 2018, 10:18 PM

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thats the good life

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:19 PM

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then animations could play loud music, or edit current meshes, etc. It's hard to automate a perfect system

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But honestly, the beta should get most of it

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At least, crashing will go down, and mods will have more time to investigate the current ones

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:20 PM

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True. Just sucks when playing vrc with the fear of crashing anytime. Especially when you don't really have people to play with. Then you go to a server with others you dont know and have the fear of a game crasher.

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:22 PM

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"I'm fairly sure I could get an account to the highest rank in a day or two" Yeah like the people with hundreds to a thousand hours, hundreds of friends, avatars, worlds and they don't even have Trusted

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:26 PM

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^

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:30 PM

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😂

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hey @hybrid cloak you've been typing for like.. 15 minutes now, u writing an essay?

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:33 PM

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DOWN WITH FPAUL!

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:33 PM

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cirsalm

near saffron Sep 22, 2018, 10:34 PM

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He about to upload an assignment on us all

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:34 PM

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ikr

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Oh wtf FPaul*?*

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:34 PM

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hmm? cirThink

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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What did I do to get deletion*?*

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Spam..

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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i just cleaned the backlog

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as it makes no sense without the original messages

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nothign to worry about

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Lol

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Oh..

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Tis all good

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👌

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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vrclike

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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So ya'll good cirComfy

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He even send me a friend request

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Lol

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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😂

umbral reef Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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So are we taking down Fpaul ~~to bed~~?

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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And they are still typing

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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@vocal shard I don't know if this is the appropriate place to get your attention but the requirements for the Halloween Competition of an "Original Idea" isnt really in my opinion fair due to the fact that Me and Many other Creators have spent countless days and countless weeks working on a world which In My opinion is "Original". The Definition of Original- "created directly and personally by a particular artist; not a copy or imitation." To me there is no such thing as an "Original" idea primarily because in one way or another someone has made somthing that has the mechanics of what has been done before. In addition, if you want to talk about originality, what one of my favorite youtuber's GameTheory, did was make a video discussing about Fan Games and how they are Original Idea's, yet if you are under the impression that Fan Game's are a copy of the original then that means, VrChat is a complete copyrighted mess on its own. 90% of Vrchat is avatar's and worlds that in one way or another have similar mechanic's or similar idea's. Then at the same time you have people who have made actual original worlds LIke Half the Horror Map's out there. But this brings me to the point im trying to make. A Friend of mine has worked so hard on his map. This map has an original Storyline, Original Cast, Original Voicelines, and an Original Map Design. Yet now you say that that the idea must be original. If I said who the creator is and what the map is as well, a huge group of people would support me on my claim that this persons map should be allowed to be submitted to this contest. Thank you for your time and patience.

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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BIG LOL

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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I KNEW IT

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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O.o

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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in b4 deleted

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Oof @ vrpill

near saffron Sep 22, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Oh crap it was big

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Game theory fav YouTuber?.....

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O.o

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:37 PM

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no accounting for taste

latent copper Sep 22, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Yikes that message took my whole phone screen

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:38 PM

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no one else on the "down with fpaul" train?

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:38 PM

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No

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Not really 😂

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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I'm guessing it's complaining their world isn't eligible for the contest because the contest requires original assets, right?

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i stopped a few lines in

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Shorten it to 20 words or less

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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damn

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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i didn't actually read the contest rules, but I'm just guessing

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Fpaul is a good guy cirLove

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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they're talking about its not original enough?

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Read the rules

near saffron Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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How would one check that all assets are original, if that is the rules

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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If I see FPaul being an Occularist again sure @mighty galleon

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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I don't think anything has been original in recorded history really

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:39 PM

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they don't need to be original, but you need to have permission to use them

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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@vocal shard what cirBaka

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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haydn

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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@vocal shard thanks cirLove

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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my avatars are original

jovial oriole Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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sean

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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how do you know that to be fact @tidal aspen

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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so just stuff like uncopyrighted models and such

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Anything written=unoriginal

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It was verbal way before

near saffron Sep 22, 2018, 10:41 PM

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So I take it using assets/map from a horror game or something similar would not be allowed in the rules

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Since i belive that the idea of the contest is to support and motivate to create original content it is definitely fair.

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No one forces you to do something for it cirThink

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:41 PM

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" the entrant must have all rights necessary to submit the Entry."

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:41 PM

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I'm guessing it requires original assets and whatnot?

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:41 PM

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if something is in the public domain it's fine to use

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:41 PM

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you must have rights to the assets

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:42 PM

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in this case, submitting it for a contest with prices, it propalby also needs to be allowed for commercial things?

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which limits free assets often

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:42 PM

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fpaul, you down with the "down with fpaul" train?

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:42 PM

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yeah say you want music, can't use any copyrighted songs or w/e

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Sean... Are you down with fpaul?

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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so horror games

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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im up with owning jamie

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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can use stuff from like incompetech though if you credit them

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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@vocal shard what cirREE

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Jasyidk

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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wait @mighty galleon why though?

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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For example i recreated fnaf

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with working animatronics

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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why what?

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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but the idea was never copyrighted

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or claimed

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scott said it himself

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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why are you on "\the down with FPaul train" 😂

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Why "what"?

near saffron Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Well then that would be fine then

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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it is still his creation and he owns the rights to it

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Oh, so open source and original assets?

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Scott Cawthon
2 years ago
A lot of copyright law is gray area and creators do make mistakes, but I think most creators, including myself, are very welcoming and encouraging of fan games. I've always been a fan of TJoC; I've never said a negative word about it. In fact, if it had used its own characters rather than the FNaF characters then it could have been its own game. I've never claimed ownership of animatronic robots; I've said that many times on forums. The games used as examples here were self-described fan games.

All anyone can do is handle these things on a case by case basis; trying not to abuse the system while also protecting the brand that made the fan games and fan community possible.

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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uhm

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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that's what's allowed?

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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unless he stated that anyone else can use his creations

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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because, when i see fpaul i see he's hiding a scheme behind those eyes, you cant trust those avatars

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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there is your statement

latent copper Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 PM

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But no one asked for scotts statement???

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Just because he doesn't care doesn't mean they're original

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 PM

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^

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 PM

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if you really want to you can email them and just ask

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 PM

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what is their email

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:46 PM

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official emails are proof that they gave you the rights to use

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:46 PM

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oh

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thats what you mean

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ok

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Its allowed to make something inspired by it(with credits), but if its exact copy or close to it you have the right to take legal measures.

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Might be a waste of time depending on what the rules say

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:46 PM

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even if they do give permission though you need to follow their guidelines about it

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Do they require original assets and open source things?

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:47 PM

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so if they they say you can't use their official models you can't use them

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it'd be easier and safer to just reskin what you have and make original models and such

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Permission isn't what you need, according to the rules. You need the actual rights to it

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Permission isn't the same as a written right, as far as I know.

topaz sapphire Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Sup Slendy,

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I agree with this as well.

hybrid cloak Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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thank you

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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I've got a question: I'm trying to upload my first avatar and it says too many poligons?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Just import something which was copyrighted more than 30 years ago

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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you need to decimate it to be below 20k tris @feral trellis

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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How do I do that?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Unless it's Disney shit. Disney can extend copyright forever because they have money

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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It woudl have to be something copyrighted more than 30 years ago and that didn't have the copyright upkept

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Look up tutorials for it

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Which would require way too much research and paperwork to find out

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:49 PM

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things only become public domain 70 years after the copyright holder dies AND the copyright hasn't been reregistered

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:50 PM

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law is different from each country

topaz sapphire Sep 22, 2018, 10:50 PM

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At the moment I am working on the Dead Space VR, so far 1 month. And it is almost done. And when I noticed Halloween Event was coming up I worked even faster cause I wanted to use that for my entry. But yeah.

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Also you're suggesting to go find some 3D models and assets from he 80s and early 90s and then convert them to use in Unity? lol

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:51 PM

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no I'm just saying that's how public domain works if something was copyrighted in the past

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Ah not you, someone said find something from 30 years ago

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Odds are it's gonna look ugly as hell and hard to work with

tidal aspen Sep 22, 2018, 10:51 PM

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I mean you could probably base some horror maps off of grimm's fairy tales

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there's some fucked up shit in those

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:52 PM

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@tidal aspen thats how it works for your country

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maybe

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:52 PM

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i might just tell the person who made my avatar to go put it in there and see if he can reek the rewards xD

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 10:52 PM

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as i said, every country is different cirBaka

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ther are countries who dont even know what copyright is

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law wise

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 10:52 PM

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You mean China?

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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It seems like a waste of time to do the research to find all copyrights just for judges to deny you because they ALSO don't want to do the legwork to make sure everything is legit

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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@mighty galleon you said "my avatars are original"

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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yeah

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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that's a rarity

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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i get the art done for it and ask a friend to make them for me

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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are they MMDs?

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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they're based off my ngihtmares

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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oohh nvm

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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no mic

rigid crescent Sep 22, 2018, 10:54 PM

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oh they're real models, nice

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Real rarities in VRC

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:54 PM

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yeah

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:54 PM

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😂

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:54 PM

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dg, im not able to make avatars so i pay my friend to make them for me

maiden hound Sep 22, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Yeah I understand that

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sorry didn't realise before haha

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:56 PM

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no problem

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Would be neat to use zed mini and vrchat to have vrarchat

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:57 PM

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?

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 10:58 PM

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? What

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:58 PM

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whos zed

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Zed mini is a stereoscopic accesory for vr headsets enabling roomscale ar

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 10:59 PM

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never heard of it

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Ok.

grand thistle Sep 22, 2018, 10:59 PM

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sounds like a concept like windows mr but nice

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gonna look into it later on

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:00 PM

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Its not worth looking into unless you have the 449$ to shell out

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Its an expensive add on.

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Are there any avatars that i can just download and upload?

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I'm terrible with unity 😛

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:01 PM

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almost ALL avatars need a little touch up

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also devil dont say that website here

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Oh. My bad.

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 11:02 PM

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It's really annoying because I just Can't figure it out 😦

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:02 PM

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watch a tutorial on blender avatar

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 11:02 PM

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a forbidden word that everyone knows :>

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Why is it forbidden

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:02 PM

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bad site

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 11:02 PM

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I have been watching loads of tutorials man, I'm like an old man with excel. I have no clue what im doing haha

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:03 PM

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step by step tutorial on cats should do it

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 11:03 PM

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its blacklisted due to the content that people upload on there.

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Oh i wouldnt know im just a steam user

lethal meteor Sep 22, 2018, 11:03 PM

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usually modded sdks

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:03 PM

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No customs from me

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But it'd be cool to see avatars in vr chat interacting in my living room in ar

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Then again. Trolls.

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:05 PM

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?

queen mango Sep 22, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Mixed reality?

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:05 PM

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sounds complicated

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Yes

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And its not.

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Unity is mr ar vr friendly

queen mango Sep 22, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Seems like a new place to start for beginners.

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:08 PM

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Plus ARkit and Arcore are auper accessible.

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Super

cold talon Sep 22, 2018, 11:09 PM

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pill, before you go , i wanted to ask what's your opinion on the direction vrc is heading, sorry to bother btw Pray

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:09 PM

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But zed mini would be best in regards to this use case

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:10 PM

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bahka

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down with fpaul

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Sure. VRChat is going to take over the world. That's my opinion on where it's heading 😃

indigo fern Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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tanabae

cold talon Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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omegaLUL

ruby needle Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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sean i'd really appreaciate if you'd put a end to that sentence

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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aw

indigo fern Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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World domination is the end goal, I knew it

cold talon Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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total world domination i see

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Also, regarding that question about original ideas, would really need more detail to know what you are talking about. If there's any specific question about the contest send it to hello@vrchat.com and they'll forward it over to us.

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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You'll need a better engine than Unity 5.6 first

queen mango Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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SOON.

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I do want it to go in that direction though

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Like i said. Augmented reality vr chat cross platform. Would be. Heaven.

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I want to see every single person use VRChat in the future

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I don't need real the real world if I can live in VRChat

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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make vrchat into oasis

queen mango Sep 22, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Soon, VRChat will take the online world by storm.

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It's been a long time.

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Some people already sleep in VRChat every night, not sure if you're aware as you're very busy

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:13 PM

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caffeine are you the same caffeine with chrome loving

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Oh yeah I'm aware. I tried it once.

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Oh, cool!

vocal shard Sep 22, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Couldn't do it. With the headset on it was too difficult to sleep.

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I'm sure people who sleep on their back it would be easier.

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Yeah Sean, I changed profile picture to this as a joke directed at myself

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:14 PM

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oh ok

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come back to us soon ok caffeine?

quaint solar Sep 22, 2018, 11:14 PM

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I sleep on side its a no from me

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:14 PM

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I can't either, since I use glasses, but it seems to work for some

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I will change back some time, I like that other picture a lot

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:14 PM

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i cant sleep in vr b/c i sleep on my stomach xD

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:15 PM

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It's 1am, so I will go make more coffee now

queen mango Sep 22, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Whaat? Can't you just go to sleep now?

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:15 PM

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no

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caffeine is a very busy important human

queen mango Sep 22, 2018, 11:16 PM

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Sigh

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:16 PM

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Sleep?

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:16 PM

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-pats elire-

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:16 PM

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I haven't heard of that server

queen mango Sep 22, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Guess sleep is for the weak then.

mighty galleon Sep 22, 2018, 11:19 PM

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yep

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 11:36 PM

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I've got an avatar ready to upload and all it says is future proofing and then doesn't do anything

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Am i doing something wrong?

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Disable future proofing, it's not useful either way and it slows down uploading by like 5 times

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But sometimes it just doesn't want to work and you will have to renew the avatar ID thingy in the pipeline..Thingy

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Wheres the setting for that?

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Can't seem to find it 😛

tacit plank Sep 22, 2018, 11:50 PM

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In the login menu of the SDK I think

feral trellis Sep 22, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Yeah i got it. It's saying it can't find a temp file now FFS

twin jacinth Sep 23, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Sometimes when im in the game over longer peroids of time my GPU gets up on 100% load and the game drops to 5-10 frames
if i reload into the same world it stops
anyone got a fix for this? without reloading into the game

umbral oracle Sep 23, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Jufo I have that sort of issue after opening and closing the steam menu in vr. It just starts randomly or is there some trigger?

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 12:07 AM

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People in the Beta can now see people who're not in the Beta?

rigid crescent Sep 23, 2018, 12:08 AM

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By changing the launch options of the game, yeah

umbral oracle Sep 23, 2018, 12:08 AM

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That launch option people keep posting in the discord does it.

twin jacinth Sep 23, 2018, 12:08 AM

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I don't think there's a trigger, it just happens randomly after being in the game usually for a long peroid of time. (5 hours ish????)

rigid crescent Sep 23, 2018, 12:08 AM

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I've noticed the trigger for messing VRchat the most is hitting the damn steam button

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Oh, thanks

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Someone pinged me?

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Zz

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:03 AM

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Pizza

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Also wrong server, hello

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:03 AM

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Hawaiian.

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:04 AM

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Without pineapple

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Correct

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Lol

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:05 AM

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That ain't hawaiian.

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Why is 1 of the discord mods trolling me

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:06 AM

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I'm a meat man

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:06 AM

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oh hi advert

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:06 AM

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waveNIKO

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:06 AM

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hows it been

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:06 AM

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Busy, doing some stuff.

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:07 AM

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for game or irl?

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:07 AM

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For IRL, haven't done that much stuff for in game.

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:07 AM

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i wish you luck then advert

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Pray Thank you, I need all of that.

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:09 AM

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Yeah GL

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I remember the IRL server, it's terrible

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Helllo I wanna cry

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:11 AM

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whats wrong big guy

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:11 AM

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There's probably a world for that, if not, should I make one?

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:11 AM

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There is

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:11 AM

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My account is taking forever to create

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:12 AM

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Theres a world with depressing music

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Sad hours or something

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:12 AM

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I would join that world, if I could create my account

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:12 AM

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is there a world for picking up cyber e chicks

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:12 AM

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Yeah but they're all controlled by 25 year old men

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Why can't you btw, Tank?

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:13 AM

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I'm 28 thank you

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Lol

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:13 AM

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:0

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Legit creating an account is not working for me

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It’s just forever loading

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Oh, try changing browser

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:13 AM

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the problem is u havent paypalled me all of your money yet

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Some extension probably killed it

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Wow heck found out what did it

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My internet is 1.9 Mbps

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:15 AM

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dude. epic fail.

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rolflmao pwned

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Wow, that's almost as slow as the VRChat upload servers

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:28 AM

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Fellas I’m slowly making my way into a lobby

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:29 AM

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You're not gonna have a good time at those speeds

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Yeah....

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Better off going to my uni campus and using the internet

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:31 AM

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for upload i got 8.35 mbps

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and 14.2 mbps for download

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:31 AM

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500/500 here

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Your hamsters are getting tired, let it rest.

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🔫 no

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nikogunm3grease

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:32 AM

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Symmetrical fiber is nice

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:32 AM

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whats

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:32 AM

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I just had it installed yesterday

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:32 AM

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symmetrical fiber?

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Not with that emote, you don't.

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:33 AM

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Fiber optic internet with symmetrical upload and download, so 200mbps down and up

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:33 AM

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heck

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how much vrchat do you play a day

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:33 AM

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I live with 3 other roommates, two of which play VR lol

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:33 AM

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darn

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:35 AM

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But our ISP is being really quite brazen and installing fibre to literally every house across the entire country for free, you just pay for the service if you choose to use it

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:36 AM

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What is this country you speak of? 👀

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Canada lol

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It's rolling out over several years, I just happen to be in an early adopt city

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Damn son, that's great. Wish that's how it is in here as well.

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:38 AM

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Hopefully eventually the modern world will run off the glass internet

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I mean it mostly does for intercontinental type stuff, but yeah

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:39 AM

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That will take quite a lot of years before that can happen.

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 2:39 AM

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Yeah.

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:39 AM

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darn

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Glass?

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Fiber Optic Internet

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Australia has the worst internet I s2g

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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You mean some places still don't use fiber?

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Apparently some third world countries are faster then Australia

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Even the Philippines?

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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P sure my are is using copper still

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Australia also has limited internet, right?

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Well, in some place in there at least.

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Limited as in?

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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I think their government had a huge budget for internet

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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Limited GB you can use then your net will be slowed down.

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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And then decided "screw fiber, we will use copper, and overpay by a lot"

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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Yikes

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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No about the GB yes about the gov stuff

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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And spend 60 billion on copper lines, right?

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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Is this like the ISPs fron the US?

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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Yup

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Don’t know what ISP is

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Internet Service Providers

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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This NBN is the worst idea

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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I guess that's just the internet for the place where a friend's living in.

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Like Verizon, AT&T, etc

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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I hope we have another election and the other major political party will win and fix our internet

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Yeah.

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We gotta have to deal with Duterte in my country

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I crashed trying to change my mouse sensitivity

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Wish real hard for that 'cause politicians tend to not get what "the internet" is.

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 2:45 AM

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The people in charge are usually those who don't know how anything works

near agate Sep 23, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Rodrigo "You smoke pot you get shot" Duterte

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Though, I guess we shouldn't go to that area 'cause server rule.

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Nah these dudes kinda got it cus they made sure to give all University’s faster internet then the NBN before they got elected out

umbral oracle Sep 23, 2018, 2:45 AM

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I think they know pretty well how campaign contributions and lobbying works

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:45 AM

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They're probably concerned with political relations than Internet problems

modern sand Sep 23, 2018, 2:45 AM

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#general-media pls

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Sorry ruuubick

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Darn.

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Let's move there then

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Also, let's move on from the politics discussion because of #5.

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Yeah sorry

rough flax Sep 23, 2018, 2:47 AM

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@modern sand AngryTag

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 2:48 AM

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It's necessary, Nep

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Also, rule #5

rough flax Sep 23, 2018, 2:48 AM

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naroRage

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 2:48 AM

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Do try not to ping admins unless it's an emergency.

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:49 AM

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oh hi purpleheart, been a while

rough flax Sep 23, 2018, 2:49 AM

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@ Ruuubick#2806

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@mighty galleon bingS

bleak dust Sep 23, 2018, 2:49 AM

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Yeah sorry about that guys tried not to bring rule 5 in, my bad, i wont do it again

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:49 AM

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do you remember me? xD

rough flax Sep 23, 2018, 2:49 AM

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Sorta

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:50 AM

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kk

rough flax Sep 23, 2018, 2:51 AM

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I've just been super busy.

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I am in vrc everyday, but usually like an hour or 2.

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I'm in lots of other discords that I usually have my eyeballs on cause there's good content in there.

mighty galleon Sep 23, 2018, 2:54 AM

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nice

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we never really hanged out so i wanst sure if you remembered me

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 3:01 AM

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An avatar overlaying a ui picture on my screen is a hack right?

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Nah, it's a shader

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An annoying one, sure, but it can be done with shaders. It's also how your mic icon works

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Can't wait for that new update then

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Seems the block button stopped working

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That, or it just won't update

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Mine works alright

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 3:09 AM

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Maybe it's because they left?

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A friend had the same issue earlier, tried to block a person who had crashed him in the previous instance

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 3:09 AM

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I saw him vanish when i blocked him.

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Lol, the "request help" API thing seems to be called "halp"

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Lol

vagrant parrot Sep 23, 2018, 3:58 AM

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I love working from home, I schedule my own VR time

ocean kraken Sep 23, 2018, 4:05 AM

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guys

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how do i get purrle name tag?

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purple

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mine is orange atm

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Play, upload content, etc

ocean kraken Sep 23, 2018, 4:08 AM

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Where can i see the info on how to get it?

rigid crescent Sep 23, 2018, 4:08 AM

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it should be in the announcement

pale anvil Sep 23, 2018, 4:08 AM

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how do i know when i get my use of avatar privlage back

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:09 AM

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You get an email

rigid crescent Sep 23, 2018, 4:09 AM

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https://medium.com/@vrchat/vrchat-safety-and-trust-system-4073f05ab602

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Or in game notification

pale anvil Sep 23, 2018, 4:09 AM

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also how come my game crashes when i join a server, than another onother one in the same play sestion

ocean kraken Sep 23, 2018, 4:11 AM

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i doesnt say how to rank up to purple user

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@rigid crescent do i have to specifically upload a world?

rigid crescent Sep 23, 2018, 4:12 AM

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No, it says how to increase rank though

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"The Trust system’s inner workings are intentionally hidden so that it is more difficult to exploit. Regardless, the best way to raise your Rank is simply to play VRChat — spending time exploring, making friends, and creating content (once you are permitted to do so) will all help you increase your Trust Rank, and will show off more of your avatar’s features."

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Your rank doesn't really matter anyway, not a huge deal. just play the game like you normally have been

ocean kraken Sep 23, 2018, 4:15 AM

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All my friends are purple i was just like nani

hasty anchor Sep 23, 2018, 4:16 AM

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My dynamic bone script just went poof and I dunno where it went.

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X.X

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:18 AM

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It's dependant on various things. There's some purple who've never made a world.

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Darkrp gmod players

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COS

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(Crash on site)

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Take that with you tonight.

pale anvil Sep 23, 2018, 4:25 AM

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also how come my game crashes when i join a server, than another onother one in the same play sestion

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now my game keeps crashing

long dirge Sep 23, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Beta testers come to Lag free box #16460 theres only 5 of us here

ruby burrow Sep 23, 2018, 4:43 AM

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Which kind of crash gun is it that simply freezes your view on the last thing you were looking at?

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:44 AM

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Why tf would you ask that

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Honestly i get your idea but still not here

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:44 AM

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Any that makes rendering the next frame virtually impossible, I guess

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:44 AM

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Wait

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So you know the laughing coffin guys

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Those crashers

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Idk how they crash people

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I think its like a particle overload

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:45 AM

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RPC messages

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:46 AM

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What

queen mango Sep 23, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Either that or simply a whole load of polys.

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Idk

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:46 AM

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At least that's how they link their shitty discord in your crash log

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Yeah

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Tbh i really hate them

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It pisses me off

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Every time you touch an object that has object sync on it, you send that to other players

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Also when you click non-local buttons

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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I give them probs to the brand but damn they sucks.

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Also good to know

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Those kind of events can also be send by modified clients (which is how they teleport you) but some people just write bullshit in them, which the system really dislikes, so it choses just to freeze

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Tbh

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What does the discord link go to

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Some edgy modded client discord is my guess, I haven't tried and I don't plan to

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Edgy

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:49 AM

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You need to be edgy to reference laughing coffin and crash random people with Discord advertisement

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Tbh i agree

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But honestly the rebranding is pretty interesting

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:49 AM

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It just yells "moody, arrogant teenager who has learned basic coding"

ruby burrow Sep 23, 2018, 4:50 AM

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The only reason I asked is I just got hit with it, and wanted to identify which kind it was.

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Yeah

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:50 AM

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From my experience, blocking them doesn't help either, it sucks

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Why i avoid public worlds

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I avoid them a lot

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:51 AM

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It would be a bit interesting if they made your character die when hit or something instead (like when you're shot in CTF or that FPS minigame that was briefly popular and then never seen again)

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:52 AM

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What ggo?

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Idfk

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But still

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:52 AM

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ggo?

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:52 AM

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Kinda weird to choose that brand

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Basic sao ref with the brand

tacit plank Sep 23, 2018, 4:53 AM

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Sao reference was not a bad idea, but I don't want their Discord in my crash logs, I want my 5kb back

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 4:54 AM

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If you got a lot of random friends

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Like u just added everyone

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Yougot a lot of people you can bond with

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 5:15 AM

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can people on the open beta branch see people on the public branch?

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and vice versa?

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no

raven silo Sep 23, 2018, 5:16 AM

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only people see beta to beta

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 5:17 AM

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thanks

raven silo Sep 23, 2018, 5:17 AM

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public need reinstall if your friend not want go to beta

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change back from beta menu

ruby burrow Sep 23, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Actually, something weird seems to be going on where people in the beta CAN meet those not in the beta.

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Met up with some friends just today, who were both in it whilst no one else was.

raven silo Sep 23, 2018, 5:18 AM

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that just send you empty world

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if your friend in beta

ruby burrow Sep 23, 2018, 5:18 AM

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They could see our nametag colours and everything.

raven silo Sep 23, 2018, 5:18 AM

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best use status so your friend know were you at

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like status open beta

ruby burrow Sep 23, 2018, 5:19 AM

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No I'm serious, we met up with them just fine in a public world. They were on twitch blatantly using the beta, whilst the rest of us weren't.

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Although I do also know what you're talking about, regarding people failing to join and getting sent to a different world. Since I found myself there the day before.

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The way the beta is working currently is definitely buggy and inconsistent whatever it is that's going on.

raven silo Sep 23, 2018, 5:21 AM

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that why you go in beta report to canny

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what bug yo find

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 5:21 AM

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there is a way to do it with launch options, but that is not recommended

ruby burrow Sep 23, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Another friend of mine, who isn't using the beta, has said he now gets loads of people coming up to him and asking how he got the gold nametag, asking his playtime etc.

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Whatever those launch options are, it seems like a lot of people are doing it accidentally.

raven silo Sep 23, 2018, 5:22 AM

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then there doing wrong way

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that dont help

vocal shard Sep 23, 2018, 5:23 AM

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they can't do it accidentally. it's a specific code you need to write in the game launch text box. it's just being spread around tho

raven silo Sep 23, 2018, 5:24 AM

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best not to do mostly like get banned that way