#vrchat-general-2
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i'll juge the shit out of that system
that's the only think keeping me from forwarding to moderation
im brain ded
that's the point of the system @cold saddle
search the name
does it matter really?
and you should see it
the point is to block certain features from users depending on their trust rating
which is only going to matter if you're in the same world as them
No safety activated master race reporting in 😎
and you don't have them added as friend
so that beta thing, how do i know what's my rank/label?
I like the block by shader and audio and all that and that's plenty enough for safety
check with the api or go into the beta and check in-game
When asking for help always write what you need help with
my rig
The API shows one higher than you r ingame rank btw
Ghost can you send a picture of the armatures
@elder steeple ?
same question
On the left there's a hierarchy of bones, open it all and take a pic
oof
yup
Is the game working for other people?
yes
"system_trust_basic" = Visitor
"system_trust_intermediate" = New User
"system_trust_known" = User
"system_trust_trusted" = Known User
"system_trust_veteran" = Trusted User
"system_trust_legend" = Veteran User
What's with the Name list in the Old Hub?
All the certified good boys
You got a picture
does people think running vrchat on a i7 3930k good?
Should be fine
i just bough a mother board and a cpu used and i cant wait to test thos
Let's see who is alive here
Not me~
Who use Kinect 360 ?
hum i dont even know that information sadly
kinda sad this game is single core running
well i think its a cpu type of game because of how the game track entities
or player
if you use a vr headset it wont be that idle
not really only way to see would be to look at your player moderations and see when you first sent or recived a friend request
or mabye ask a dev im sure they have a way to see account creation dates
Or find your confirmation email, if you still have it.
already had that idea, don't have any confirmation mail, and what's that player moderations thing? i might just mail the support to ask
When you friend someone, it sends an "unmuted" moderation in the API
so people were checking when they received friend requests from people using that
Your best bet for account creation date is finding your confirmation email, but if you don't have that there's not much you can do
alright, thank u, ill see what i can find
Hello
Hi
@pseudo herald Check out vrctraders in #community-servers-old
I think vrc traders might be more what you're looking for
Some here might do commissions, but that discord is more focused on that
I see, thank. 
Wow I heard about those metrics for veterans that seems sorta dumb to run under so much info for one rank when the thing it's disabling the vast majority under it use.
Like it really harsh pushed for just about any active VRC streamer having Vet Rank.
Because lol every streamer on my friends has it
And none of them use custom animations lmao
Anyone wanna talk on vrc?
They don't have facial expressions or anything? that's pretty rare
no 👌 hand even?
Veteran is overrated
all about that cute purple name
that's actually super useful. :p
link looks dodgy asf
dl as in download not dll
it's what vrchat used (not sure how they do it now) for videoplayers
Youtube-DL is a legit thing. :p
ok, so im sure people ask this all the time, but does anyone know how to get VRChat to work on a Chromebook? I already have developer mode on, Ubuntu installed, and Steam downloaded, but im not sure what to do next.
would wait for an official fix though
It's literally just an exe file that can be ran from a command line to download youtube videos.
The official fix is doing what I suggested; They'll just release the new version with that already done. @tidal aspen
YouTube-DL is just outdated in the current build; You can wait for them to update it, or do it yourself. 🤷
Shouldn't make any difference really.
@shy nest Looks dodgy asf, but it's a real thing; It just downloads YouTube videos to an MP4 file that can be streamed by Unity. :p
what?
no ma'am
if you die in the game you die in real life
- Sonic
lol
There are still people out there that can instantly crash you if they want. I just experienced one of those. Dude said to roll a dice, if I get 6 I "survive". Rolled a 4, he crashed me 2 seconds later...
truth is game was rigged from the start
hello
I have a question about the safety system, is my current time on vrchat going to affect it?
I guess that's one reason to always record while in public lobbies. Because you need proofs to get someone banned.
Hmm as for the safety system, it's too early to tell how it works. It's like still in beta.
I'm just assuming that it counts your steam hours
no
not at all
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
And well, it keeps increasing after that
till you reach the required values for the new ranks
tho, this is all in game tracked
and ofc only if you're active (staring at the login screen wont get you anywhere even tho steam keeps counting)
and its not even public released yet 
Mostly due to speculations on what the veteran status is and such
A "privilege"
something that makes you think about your actions more
if you want to reach it
thats why you can turn it off
It's a mark that you are a "good citizen". Shows to others that you can be trusted.
showing off has always been a part for a lot i guess
This will end in some Hunge Game shit
Anyway the titles aren't even released yet. We will see.
Think about it this way
If you (Not you specifically) want to treat me differently due to my rank
or assume something about me
why would I want to be your friend to begin with?
and if someone with a higher rank will treat you poorly due to it, why would you want to be their friend?
I see the issue of people possibly being treated one way or another as a quick exposure of who is truly a decent person and who isn't
assuming that even happens of course
Is there such thing as decent people on VRChat? 😉
yes
Yes. In private worlds.
😉
Ones who wouldn't have done that before, will because other do it
It's hive mind mentality
you don't just "become" a bad person due to some ranking system
Or sheep mentality
E x p o s e d
You were a bad person all along.
I'm talking about elitist attitude
Yes, and having an elitist attitude makes you a bad person...
But that rubs off on others
On to other bad people, yes it does.
It's happened time and time again.
Look at other communities. People don't even know why, but they hate on things just because they're told that's how it's done
To avoid drama, here's my story of today: Today, I went to the PUG and served cake as a maid. Met fellow local people. Had fun. Then got crashed by a crasher. The end.
Not everyone is that small minded, and again, why do yo uwanna speak to that kind of person anyway?
The whole thing justs seems off...
If something like that actually happens, I'd consider it a good thing because it's one less person to waste my time befriending.
Basically, the only issues so far are hypothetical ones that can be easily remedied if they become a problem.
Being harassed by higher ranks ?Report them. THey'll lose it eventually
report, mute, move on. They aren't the kind of people you wanna associate with anyway
On a personal level... I'm shy, but I try push myself... But now I tried going on with my lower rank, and felt like people were judging me. Before we were more or less equal. Even if this is a small thing... It changes the dynamics
Now, say you see a friend doing that, right?
"lol james this [color] is trying to talk to use"
"Dude, chill that's not cool"
But if they're actually serious and not joking then you mgiht wanna rethink your buddies
Damn, the higher ranks will get all the anime neko trap booty
^
I'm saying if you ever see a friend treating someone that way
It's a correctible attitude, to be honest. and if they can't be corrected they can get blocked/muted
Well gud time for an Experiment. Veteran Account talking to randoms vs. normal user
"I-It's just a prank bro, it's a social experiment!"
"Colors ? All I see is people." 🤔
Did the colour change only or the whole Nametag Example
The nametag outline
So color only?
Yeah
just get a shader that changes the colour of your nameplate :^)
Lol
I don't doubt there'll be some isolated incidents where people take joking too far, but as a whole, I'm not seeing a problem. People will be interested in the color for the first few weeks and then it'll be as normal as cameras, or whatever other updates there are
Get a (blocked) shader? lol
Gud imma just make my Nametag invisible and put a other colour nametag there with the fixed Billboard shader xD
Yeah it will cause like "ZOMG SCANDALOUS AHHH !" in the first weeks, then... VRChat will return to it's calm and dying state.
Except that won't work because if you're not a high rank, it will be blocked for most
Everything should be by default on
but individual users can just set that however they want, and also they can just point their cursor at you to see your rank
but I'm not even known. lol
Unfortunately they don't allow to enable or disable ALL the options in the "custom" tab
you can turn it off, that's an enable all isn't it ?
just don't even use it 
Do you use NoeNoe/Xiexe/Flatlit Toon/Cube-whatever
if so your shader is fine
To be totally honest I'm not 100% on Xiexe, it's just one I saw listed
I'll be turning the system off for most ranks. It's not a big deal. If someone is bad then report or block and mute. The system will eventually take care of them
There is a setting to set it at like... zero protection. But there's none that allow you to select individual things that you want to turn off for a certain group of people.
Er....what?
that's what the little gif shwos
You can customize each rank of person
Yea
Yeah, but not ALL the options
What do you mean?
Yes all options
Do you have a screenshot of the "custom" type of "protection" ?
Yeah I can't find the screenshot album. Do you have a link to it ?
You can set each selection for each rank in the game
kk is it possible to give me a list of the ranks purpose as people in the beta are telling us its gonna stop us from doing anything @ruby needle ?
Er, you should probably not make claims unless you actually know....
I know. I just need the picture to prove it
@mellow quiver the ranks are not going to stop anything
It's in the announcements
actually the ranks already exists since the trust system
Like to circle in big red
Yeah, check #announcements
the moment you can upload custom avatars for example what your first rank up
More fear mongering by uninformed peopleprobably greens
Ohhhh, I interpreted the interface wrong actually.The "disabled" options are dark gray, which my brain interpreted it as "Greyed out", like that option isn't available. But that's because I didn't saw the gif with the actual animation XD
Nobody knows
So.... Would loosing all my friends due to a random glitch in the last updated (Wich didn't fix itself) affect my rank?
Probally not
nope
Oof
Its based on playtime, kicks, bans, uploaded avatars, worlds and report prob
@mellow quiver its the same stuff the avatar upload thing is based on
the trust score
@rigid crescent You were right actually. Sorry, that animated gif of them ticking the options proved that the grayed out options were actually just disabled, not completely unavailable. >.< 👍
oh
yeah, 100% custom my dude
so time played
no, not time played
oh?
Source?
Well that really good. Gonna go custom and tweak that for a level of protection just right.
I've heard of people saying they've got like 80 and can't upload, feelsbad
but they might've just been idling
i played 2 days 3 hours in total and got email the same day with custom content.
They probably idled for 75 hours
oh damn
AFK doesn't count btw
Same with the trust system
3 hours for that is the fastest I've heard, that's pretty good
Not bad
I wish they could add veteran, trusted and all to that account becuz my Main has that and im still the same person lol
Well if you Idle maybe
I can confirm I got my permissions in like, 2-3 hours. I was shocked.
Or just a way to link accounts.... Because that way the system would see I have much more playtime and have been on since November....
Yeah for example if you hang at one of the dev meetup, you make so many friends there, upload rights are pretty much instantaneous. lol
All i did was visiting 3 worlds, adding one to favourite, stayed in bless some rain for like 2 hours all i did was changing the animal sitting Positions every 10 mins + like say something in the mic xD. Also added 5 friends at the same time 3 accepted.
A good session of social and that's pretty much all you need.
I tailed a streamer without realizing and got a bunch of friend requests from it ^^'
if you want to have a really good time go to japanese shrine and learn curse words from asian people
We had a little language exchange at the PUG.
I have like 27 friend requests from random steam users and the names uh.
@vital skiff no random stream links here
thank u devs for slaying that twitch streamer and god bless america
So I'm actually trying VR Chat out and I just have 1 question, How do I make the desktop version full screeen?
You hold shift while the game launch
It shows the options
Order a Fullscreen on the Secret Menu
it opens a little menu that lets you change a few settings then you can launch the game from that menu
Ok Alt+enter does make it full screen but now I need to change the resolution because its 4:3 when it should be 16:9
Yeah alt+enter will not change the resolution that game is set at.
Just makes it full screen
You will need to set the resolution in the graphics option (holding shift while the game is launching)
Hit Shift when you hit launch the game
VRCHAT TEAM i have sent a email requesting my name change 3 mins ago so ill be waiting for my new name!:)
you can request one by email. it's in the faq
I wonder if your friends still remain your friends after a name change 🤔
yes
Pretty nice.
lol I just found out two Oranges I know have 180+ blocks
how does someone get so many blocks....
lol
is pepe really banned on here
i read the rules
oh my god are u kidding me
LOL
is this just a discord ban or a whole vrchat ban
if someone has a pepe avatar could they get banned
because it was used as a symbol of racism.... so they don't want that association
ree
vrchat devs are actually the overwatch league
if i see just one frog ill go full alex jones
is pepe really that liked or something? i never saw the point in it
It's a meme, so yes.
How do you check the trust system?
well i never liked memes much, so i dont much like pepe, plus its ugly
The trust system is in the beta version of the game
At the moment.
im right with u there brother
i will take my stand and fly the EU flag
memes no more
i just never understood why people think most memes are funny, they're just stupid a majority of the time
you check the announcements channel for more info
I think it's the silliness that contribute to their popularity.
Whats lower, DesktopLow or VRLow?
Desktop low, pretty sure
Yeah, desktop low will be lowest.
hell, day one of the knuckles i blocked evry sinlge person who used it
and still block anyone in a knuckles avatar
a proud EU general i see
nope
carry on brother
im american
oh heck
you sound fun
do u browse reddit
nope
What? having a specific avatar/
no, the memes
basically lol
Fight the knuckles with knuckles.
i dont know how anyone see's it as funny
memes or knuckles
It's dumb. Some people are prone to laugher when they see or hear dumb things
chicken butt
Yeah, you sound like a very socially-adept fun person too be around lol
u rite
sometimes I forget I'm not in my community discord where I can just roast the shit out of people whenever I want
if you stare into the abysse, the abysse stares right back at you
roasts dont much work on me
he is far too sophisticated for the likes of your "insults" bigot
lol
well its not that star
get off my sub reddit before i dox you
its more like, its just words, how can it be insulting
because he hits into a really good few I know
SCREENSHOTTED MIC
PREPARE FOR BAN
It's one of those "yeah this is too easy" type things
there should be a vrchat president we elect
i think that would be horrendus lol
make a monoarch
the great pug will bleed red and gold
get the scykle and hammer
Thanks, sorry for the late reply
i have a question
what is your question
u can see how many people are in a world u know
yea
simply choose a random world and go to the one with lots of ppl
ok
i reccomend japanese shrine because u dont know what the fuck anyone is saying
from there u simply step back and observe
such mystery and wonder
You guys know a good avatar server that has a Jon Arbuckle avatar?
That's the best request I've ever seen
I need it to encounter people with a natsuki avatar
I am trying to work out how those two things go together and I am concerned for your sanity
I like where it's going to be honest
lol
have they at least fixed the social tab so it shows what world your friends are in instead of what world they were in 20 minutes to 3 hours ago?
it seems a lot faster in the open beta
god, I hope so. I haven't been able to find anyone I know yet tonight
I'll have to revise my estimate of how long it will take to compromise the beta from a few hours to already done
cause here's a guy running on the live servers lol
omg my friends list still hasnt updated
yeah you just set a launch option, doesn't do much but let you test the features better since its on the live version
Is it showing where they were, or are they in the beta server and yo ucan't see them due to it?
Being just a known user with how much time I've spent animating is hurtful. Down with this caste system. Every civilization that has introduced a caste system has had major issues
Love the security though
would it even show them?
As in I should be trusted
Yeah, it actually does lol I noticed people trying to join me
Why?
What's wrong with being a Known User?
Your animations don't show up
crem is like the highest level lol
Im fine with ebeing a known user
People have to enable you to see them
I want to be a known user...
just ask them to then
Right but like I'm known for busting my cool shit
so, attention is your issue?
No lol
I should make a ticker for the people upset with their rank vs actual issues with the rank
Just a huge hassle to show people now
known user does have limit on shader
make a world or something
It has limit on particles too
by default
Is that how you progress?
all that can be adjusted though
I never heard of u legion
I just want to know what I have to do
Play the game some more
My name is Pizza Klub
stop caring about ranks
I'm more annoyed that it's the default system. If they make it obvious that they can change it... Then I'm ok..
THERE SHOULDNT BE RANKS
I'm not going to bash the trust system until it's been in effect for a while and I can see for myself how it works
AT ALL
why
why should there be?
it's obvious, there's a big extra button with massive text in your settings and an ew button on the hand menu
you read the announcement? it explains it pretty well
Never heard of it, that name
there shouldn't be if there weren't so many little shits abusing it running around with gpu crashers
You can have security without ranks
Not talking about discord users
I am sick of being blue screened
Ok then set your security
Discord users can notice an extra button and literally all their friends talking about the settings just fine
Rank has nothing to do with that
this will let me do that, hopefully
I like rank systems
Yes it does?
yea remove rank keep safety feature
the rank is a safety feature
People will go lower or higher based on their actions
ITS NOT
why won't it
it can be there without rank holy shit
it's better than the nothing we've had
The very presence of ranks promotes an attitude of "this is better than that"
Yeah we've been asking for 6 months
No it doesn't, people do that on their own
it just make non friend to setting you want
But not for ranking
I'm going to have mine set very low by the way
That's not what vrchat is about
Guess who the guys are putting the stock into rank
people without the rank they want
they act like their rank is "bad"
The ranks are fine,
I don't think it's going to be as bad as people are fearing it is
I don't give a sht about the ranks. It's the mentality. Already there's discrimination
that's wat I mean
It's not even out yet
who wants to be friends with people like that though?
Discrimination? who's doing that
Literally they are everywhere
LOL
there ready is descrimination
Not you but many others
So, the system is flushing out bad people? That's pretty cool
so ignore those people
I like that
we got memes in #general-media
Now it's much easier to avoid toxicity as well!
yeah I made a meme too
it's not as good as yours though
post pls
k
Look at any game with a rank system. Elitist attitude starts to build, and others follow without reason
like certain shaders believe to be hackers
Exactly
The community turns toxic
Or civilization
And it pushes away new players
lol
we have something for elitists already, it's called the block button
SO, you're afraid people will treat others differently due to their rank
We don't want that at all
Isn't that a good way to flesh out the shitty people? seems like a plus
Why would you want to be friend with them only to find out later they're a dick, nip it in the bud
Like wat don't you understand about a caste system?
exactly
You keep saying that, but your missing my point
This isn't the same as a caste system, it's practically insulting to compare this to a real life situation
People will do it without knowing why
Can you advance in a caste system
@rigid crescent all the new people have the lowest rank...
fact is most people will not be top ranked
Does a pizza Steve avatar exist?
(no is the answer, so you don't have to google it)
Haha yes
Nice
In the old days you could kill to rise to power lul
so basicallyi t's not the same
It's not even the same as a rank system like Overwatch
So basically you should still understand that there is no need
And there has never been a need
it's kind of nice being given perks for creating content and playing the game for a long time but idk my opinion is probably skewed
there obviously is, the announcement explains it pretty well
I like rank bc i can decide what each rank shows
Blocking shaders based on level is a lot more visually appealing than just turning them all on or off
Man you sound so much like my best friend whonLITERALLY needs to win every argument
There's problems with it, liek the default settings for sure
also if you're like, trusted or veteran people know who to go to when they ask for avatar or mapping help
some jackass steam user should not be able to load a crash avatar, join a private world when he's not friends with anyone there, and blue screen me for no damn reason. If this (finally) fixes that, I'm fine with it
and i can change it to my preference
It would without the ranking system you fools
@leaden kiln he use hack client
I realize that
oh yeah I had one of those fellas join my world the other day
The ranknig system helps a lot with it, it also helps gives perks to more trusted users later on after ranks stabilize
scramble to figure out who they were friends with lmao
he wasn't, there was just me and another guy left in the world
The comment of "why would you want to be friends with people like that" doesn't apply.
If a popular group starts acting like that against people with a lower rank, others will follow. That mentality will spread, and new users will come into the game experiencing that. They will grow to feel that they need to advance past that rank to have any worth in the game. Without even realizing it, all these people who would be normal fun players, have adapted this personally because "that what you do"
Tru
A hypothetical.
Let it happen, then address it.
If it's real issue, which I doubt, it's an easy fix
Ok and getting rid of separatism is easy too
no one is being separated lol
i hang out in public worlds all day, and if i decide to put on my trusted rank, it will be because i want to welcome a new user and help with any questions they might have. rest of the time i will be on user rank
if anything this will encourage established groups to help new players become trusted
i don't know who these elitist hypothetical people are of yours with high rank being discriminatory, but just block them
yeah
they already exist anyway, with certain elitist streamers in their private worlds
I just done want to have a 3 step process to show someone an animation dude it's not fucking fair
Don't
and we generally don't care abou them because they aren't worth the effort
you won't have to, unless they have the setting changed
I shouldn't be forced to see your animations
Its just an animation
It really feels like you want attention.
so just remove them afterwards. you're making a mountain out of a molehill
I want to see well done animations, so like I said my setting will be set pretty low
If I don't WANT to see your animations, I shouldn't have to. The people who want to see them will have it turned on.
I leave my shit off. Even if I crash fuck it
really the only separation that will actually happen is when people say it as a meme or some dumb shit like that lol
i don't particularly care about being crashed, but new users do, and they will quit
It is a meme now
THat's good, I'm sure plenty of people will turn it off
Most users either quit or hide in friends plus or privates from crashers
I don't care about being crashed out of the game, it's annoying but whatever. Having my machine actually crashed is infuriating
you're lucky
Big whoop
playing animations might be funny for you, but keep it to your friends instead of random people that didn't ask for it
It's annoying, it's offputting, it's disruptive.
I have a 970 ffs
I have a 960
A mediocre computer
This helps prevent it. The vast majority of users do not want to be crashed, that's just a fact
but yea I mean I really don't want to see some fucker and their dumb ass animation when they join a world and that's all they do, an annoying ass animation that nobody cares about but they only do it cause they want attention
If people wanna see your animation, they will.
"Several People are typing"
They'll have their own custom settings.
But that's not wat I do. I just don't want to go through loading and reloading
it's nice to be able to turn it off without blocking all avatars, which doesn't actually stop crashers
people who will have a bad attitude about ranks and be elitist about it were already like that beforehand, with that being said, I agree that the block button is useful
Like I've said, the main "issue" is people being salty their rank isn't what they want. Who cares? Your friends are still your friends.
I mean if you came up to me and asked me to turn on animations just so you could play it I'd say fuck you and ask why the fuck are you such an attention whore that you can't just do it so that the people who actually have it on and want to see can see it and not me who doesn't want to
Youre mad bc youre not trusted, youre an elitest in waiting
Other people will have their settings in a way you can see you if they WANT to.
More VRCD drama 🍿
cause I don't give a shit about people's dumb animations
Ok so you rokeplah or something?
no lol
Roleplay
Same quacken
Ok wat do you even do
Not liking animations=being a roleplayer
i just want to have good conversation and a good time in the game
I just hang out with friends and don't want my screen filled with stupid shit
bingo bongo
@mighty galleon so what your rank
Hmm sounds like yahoo chat but ok
oof bad trolls in the discord recently, sad bait
I mean don't you have friends to show animations to who can actually see them?
Ofc
I think it shows what users have blocked also
so you'll know right off the bat
then why would you feel the need to ask other people to specifically change their settings for you
Well, the randos that want your "fun" can receive it.
and the ones that don't won't.
Because I'm trying to get other opinions
then go ahead and do it, the people that want to see it will and those who dont want to wont
not everyone needs to see it
would you rather your animations and particles blocked or being blocked entirely
I mean that's everything isn't it?
lol
jaz im fine with known user, id be fine with being a new user too
lmao
being able to play your animations is everything to you?
see? it was bait the whole time
I'm gonna guess that Legion got known user and is just mad that he didn't get trusted/veteran, cause thats 99% of people that complain about this stuff tbh
Do I add that to the "I need my attention" count or the "I didn't get the rank I want" counter?
or both?
Both
yea
I will admit. I was a bit salty about being a normal user role.... That can be attested to spending most of my time of unity, discord and steam forums, so that makes sense... But the point I was trying to make was not based on my rank. I can just see this progressing in a way that's happened to quite a few game communities.
I'll shut up now.
rename the game to VrAnimation
Look I've made art on a 2d platform forever, I started filming as a new medium and that's my job. When I discovered you can basically make art in this game I saw it as an opportunity to try new shit, and I fucking love it, and a lot of other people love it too. And I like showing people I've never met. Is that so wrong? Fuck lol
@vocal shard now it reverse they have to play vrchat even able to make anything
it was easier when you first start vrchat
Right. Lol
and the people who wanna see your "art" will see it
2017 was more open and inviting imo
what's the problem?
Ok I never hangout with people like you lol
make some friends, show them your stuff
2017 best year of vrchat
oof
But majority of people WANT TO SEE IT
2018 is meh year
Oh, so if the majority wanna see it won't they set their settigns to reflect that?
like whoever I do shit that's all some kid cares about
Not a great model
The animation shit
I can't help it
i prefer they make the default to enable most of the stuffs, so that the people who doesn't want to see it can turn it off
I love doin it
just let people choose what they want to see lol
Jaz why did you want to know my rank for anyways
isn't that better?
So, like you said, a MAJORITY of people like seeing it, correct?
@mighty galleon just asking lol
Kk
The problem is not that they see my avatar or not. It's that they see my avatar with a shader I did not intend to be used with it, and they will assume that is how I intended it to look.
So won't the MAJORITY set their security to reflect that?
Our ranks prevent us from showing anyways
i am assuming the MAJORITY of the newbies are not even aware of it
No they don't
Unneeded steps
Your rank allows you to show it to PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE IT
The majority leave the default settings. That is true in everything
Needed steps for ppl dont need to see it
yes
literally give it like a few days and people will have customized their settings or what not
people dont want to see be in private world anyways
What are you not understanding? If people WANT to see it, they will CHOOSE to see it.
If they don't, their settings will reflect that.
this whole beta is about "personalizing the user's experience and not being told what they have to see, but what they want to see" or something like that
the saftey system only useful if you go in public all the time
"The system is designed around being able to control what the user of VRChat can see. You don't really get to tell someone "you have to see what I'm doing". If they choose to hide certain features, then that's their prerogative."
I play this game to chat not to see animations or particles
What's wrong with that?
All I care about are those colors ok? I like the safety system jesus
Wow
THat's not what you've been arguing but alright m8
why do the colors matter to you lol?
Basically
I know the existing users will customize the settings. My concern is this will put off the new users who don't know what they are missing and haven't yet explored settings
You keep talking about the people who choose not to see your animations not being able to see your animation
Because subconsciously it has an effect on certain people
It doesn't
why would it?
The only "Effect" it would have is exposing them as an asshole
in which case they were already one
so, again, why would you even care about their opinion
I'm arguing against two people here how can my side be justified? It can't I'm obviously a fuckboi here oof
Im a social player, i find most meme avatars and particle stuff as a huge annoyance
it is just that we had this argument since yesterday, i'd rather not get into it again
it is getting old
that moment when your friend whos a meme player gets veteran lol
The Kitten Band is pretty much the only public world I go because I'm a world leader. I don't want to be choked in my own home
I don't rage pubs and shit
Lol nice
Ranks help me block all those things, specially sounds and those annoying shaders on some avatats
Well the nice people in that world will see your lovely animations if they choose to.
have you tried amazon lock?
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
#saved
Immortalized this shitty convo has been
Logged you saw it
If you'd like to join us I'd be happy to oblige
Ofc
Hi, can someone help me to set up this VR running on GTX960?
So my game crashed everytime I run VR chat..
all games working smothly except VR chat
Anyone experienced this issue before?
Ye
Like immediately crashes?
It won't render the world
Or after some time? So you see a loading screen and does the home start to load in
after it's done loading, then it blank screen
also the VR chat on 2nd monitor (destkop) crashes
like, not responding
it bugged me so much i've been trying for few days now
How many minutes did you wait? I've had it get stuck for up to 5 before on not too complicated worlds
its just home
home world. the VR chat home
the problem is i cannot even go inside the home, i think it's because of the rendering
It all works in desktop mode I assume? What vr system is it
One thing you can try is skipping the normal home by launching it from the web browser if you log into vrchat website (you can search for a small world like that lag free box)
I don't think that's the problem, maybe it's because of the setting / something..
Otherwise you can check the last few lines of outputlog to see signs of something wrong
would appreciate if you can help me on this
Another shot in the dark is maybe it's something to do with sound? That might be when it first starts to listen to the mic
But I really have no idea. Whenever it gets stuck for me in vive I often have success waiting a few minutes. And yes it's the default home but it has a fair amount of stuff in it so it can take longer than a small user made world
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
Might be your best source of clues
is it that heavy? 😮
what do i do with the log?
it's really a lot
@umbral oracle alright, now it worked, and for few seconds, it crashes.. any idea?
For the log if there are any clues I would expect them to be near the end
I now have the beta and I like it
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)
Looking for button: k_EButton_A
Found component: a_button 128
Found componentTransform: a_button (UnityEngine.Transform) buttonTransform: a_button (UnityEngine.Transform)
Found 1 renderers for k_EButton_A
a_button
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)
Setting up 2 worker threads for Enlighten.
Thread -> id: 2408 -> priority: 1
Thread -> id: 370c -> priority: 1
OpenVR Shutdown
(Filename: Line: 660)
Another last ditch suggestion: Try deleting the vrchat temporary directory in LocalLow (the one with output log.txt) to rule out a caching issue. And maybe try generic avatar (you can change to one first using --no-vr) to make sure it's not a glitch related to the avatar you are wearing.
But I have no other ideas. So maybe someone else will show up with advice
omg avatars load so fast now
should i just delete and re-install vrchat?
Even if you do that, your localLow cache directory might stick around. Reinstall might help but I'm skeptical because the game data shouldn't change
Where my fellow cuties at! Let's play together
no
I've been hunting for lads in beta for a couple hours now
met some nice eggs
but not too many people to talk to qq
🤔
Anyone know the keypad code for ounij sleep and hangout
1 1 1 uh 1
check the announcements for more info
also the rules and i answered you in public-lobby
here it's fine
it's for everything related to vrchat in general
and not related to world or avatar creation
i have a friend with 300 hours 100 friends and 3 avatars no worlds and he has trusted while i have 1000 hours 300+ friends 50 avatars and 1 world and i have known
i dont understand the trust system at all
nobody does
lol
system isnt that shitty that a couple of kicks will fuck your trust score
THe system doesn't mute you, individual players do
i could just gather 20 people and mass kick everyone
oops random stopped responding error, needs work
youre only muted by the system if you are a nuisance
Just...read the announcement lol

Just logged on to VRchat, and it is unplayable. The focus just goes upwards to the sky, I can't click anything. The camera will constantly look up. Welp rip
desktop or vr ?
Desktop
check if you don't have a controller plugged in
oh
Thanks buddy, forgot to unplug my PS4 controller after playing another game before
np
How could I forget that
It was everywhere
I remember the days of knuckles, before that the days of Neps and Rainbow cult, before that is a bit more hazy.
beat meat
knuckles sucks
(i have a knuckles avatar tho dont JUDGE ME IT HAS A KNIFE AND ITS BLACK)
I personally don't care nor judge someone with them.
I have Sponge bob pirate crew recolored knuckles 😦
spongegar knuckle
You do you, I don't even block them.
unless they screech?
darn
i did however avoid public worlds when knuckles were in full swing
I couldn't even THINK when in a room full of clicking.
drove me mad.
probably why i'm less sane now
knuckles are the reason i hopped on vrchat and made an account and custom avatars
thats quite a lot to be honest
i got an oculus to play vrchat
yeah, i hit far too many "avatar creation blocks" lately to finish projects.
mostly from having to deal with rips i pull myself and have tons of silly stuff to fix and I lose interest.
Irl lately isn't helping but yeah. some time off in october coming up
Luckily enough the time off falls in the weeks of my 1-year vrchat anniversary.
Since i started playing in mid-ish october.
I'm kind of excited to see what people do for halloween this year
where is the Storytime with Magnanix event ? how to join it ?
apparently earrape can make you crash
Anything can make this game crash nowadays, even poor internet connection.
Just a thought.
not me
just load 
guys
I have no idea how to leave the bta
beta
clicking the steam dropdown does nothing
@vocal shard In the properties of the game in the tab betas sign out of all the betas
so like, right click steam's VRChat and go into the betas tab and there's a button that says "sign out of beta" or something like that?
There is a list where you can choose this option, yes
In the betas tab there's a dropdown, with the options of the open beta and one that probably says none or something. Set it to none, click okay/close/whatever and vrchat will 'update' back to the release version.
can't click that dropdown
like the arrow is there but it does nothing when I click it 😦
just gonna redownload

my reaction ^
if i get an avaztar from a public pedestral can i download it ?
NIVERH:'
me and some friends will be doing some drunk night in a couple of hours, anyone wanna join in? lol
hello i want ask how people in beta mode can see non beta
Magic sauce was used.
this will surely sound dimb , but how do i send a private message to a friend on the vrchat website ?
you..cant?
i don't see any options for that
i see MY messages bar on the left but i don't find how to send one to a friend
oh .. someone here told me we could send private messages on the vrchat website
don't believe everybody i guess
they "fixed" that
you could at some point by manually going to the correct place
but it wasnt intended to be used
""""""""""""fixed""""""""""""
they removed it AFAIK
afaik?
what is that
google it
do you mean uhh asap
no
as far as i know?
yes
I usually just add /message to the url and it shows up for me. I'm terrible at navigating websites properly so not sure there is a button I am missing
Oop
hello fellow vrchaters
Hi
Hai hooman
why does VR Chat allow users to upload avatars with music 🤔 i dont think i have ever seen one that was of much value, and they usually are annoying
hey i am asking is raiding bannd
For me I would make a music with a small range on my headphones so when I chill in a corner I can listen to it
But yeah most of the time its mostly for those annoying particles / screenshake effect and super loud and obnoxious
no like no fx or sfx raid normal stuff
@vocal shard Fairly sure it 100% depends how the raid is being done
If 20 people run into a room to harass users it prob not smart to try it...
If the cat band group or other non toxic or intrusive raid happen they dont bat an eye
oh ya i do not harass people
@cloud isle Look up some of the higher end animation showoffs within VRC- Sound has an really good reason to be in the game but ey- No need to complain about it anymore with the beta as it can be blocked 
i just have fun
any one else get pink boxes in any world you go to after trying out the beta?
the question is if the beta solves getting crashed by people without me having to block people randomly
i need to fix it it's annoying
Depends-
Could already use the particel limiter (no need to change the settings, just turn it on manually) and most crashers are gone
If they crash with materials you gotta wait untill the update
But with the beta thingy- You got an 'rank' trust system that places peeps into groups of how trusted they are
Unknown how to get a higher rank beside playing and not being a cunt
But you cna turn off materials/particels/sound/ect on avatars
What means you can block all ways of being crashed from some groups
well we just raid as imperium guard from Warhammer
bgvfkjxbdkjfbsdkjfbsdkjfbsdkjfbsdkjfbs
I think it isn't allowed
how to disable safe mode ? it activated by itsezlf and dunno how to deactivate it
i just need to disable block avatar by default and mute othersd ,by default ?
you have to uncheck mute and block avatars
@umbral reef Your in game friends will not have the same effects. The security settings only apply to those you do not have friended. Otherwise you can set their Security level individually if you feel to do so.
Simply by hovering over them in game and selecting to block x,y,z
etc
Wrong chat sorry just noticed a beta one
@vocal shard Or just Deus Vult that shit.
[lo][popo[p[po
@supple bison Still means he wont get crashed... And if he does its not that hard to unfriend, report and block the 'friends'
Copy paste your email and password into the text fields instead of typing them
If that fails reset your password
🅱upper
Does anyone know a good Jon Arbuckle avatar and where it is???
Yeah that happens, had it happen 3 times
Got one from blocking a crasher he brought his friends and kick voted me out ~ , not very long 20min~
Yeah thats a thing still
Where can I find a pikmin morph that isn’t swole
hello guys
i sometime keep getting vr chat not responding error 
So Halloween Event World is currenrtly down RN ?
@vocal shard If we win the competition can we donate the 50 bucks back to you guys to put in the "hire another dev" jar?
@karmic bear Savage XD
lmao
or maybe just the 50 bucks cash to offset what I spent on fucking playmaker
you don't want a mug?

Or maybe straight 50$ in my pocket so I can afford food.
Well... you can beg on the street with said mug 😆
any news on node graph recently?
Can vr chat beta users, interact with non-beta users?
. Looking for some



stuff