vrchat-general-2

[cold talon]

yep tupper confirming what fpaul did

[small wing]

hopefully it gets fixed

❤

[vast tulip]

#vrchat-general-2 is moving quickly. That can only mean servers are having issues

[worthy venture]

Welp theres the announcement

[vocal shard]

Fpaul, get faster at fixing it.

[coral vessel]

good guy paul

[umbral reef]

Bahka you saying Fpaul is tupper 🤔

[rotund wren]

Hide the pain guys just hide the pain

[small wing]

@vast tulip yeppers

[indigo fern]

cmon FPaul, we believe in you

[cold talon]

interesting

[coral vessel]

i heard if u chant tuppers name the servers will be fixed

[vocal shard]

It's more like... "come on Amazon, we have no faith in you !"

[ruby needle]

I'll continue mashing random strings into the console till it works

[cold talon]

i mean they both use cirno

[small wing]

Tupperware lids fall to the floor

nope

chanting didnt work

[coral vessel]

yikes

[cold talon]

so likely they are the same

[rotund wren]

Chants Tupper, Tupper, Tupper

[dull rain]

Tupperdose lel

[vocal shard]

We must sacrifice one for the server gods so they get less angry at us !

[small wing]

@ruby needle dont cut the red wire.

[coral vessel]

tupperware sponsored by Dialup

[cold talon]

wait how many batteries on the server?

[vocal shard]

2 AA

[hallow zenith]

lol

[cold talon]

do you have any yelow wires?

[simple pilot]

At least 8

[dull rain]

At least two UPS's

[vocal shard]

You can't have any server problems if you don't have any servers.

[small wing]

cut the green wires = all of the united states has a blackout

[dull rain]

[floral aspen]

:forehead:

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard
Peer2Peer then?

[lilac swan]

[coral vessel]

spent $400+ on vr for offline simulator!

[cold talon]

wait no green wire is grounding

u fokt it up nooooo

[small wing]

haha

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard I would pay for the game. If that would mean better servers.

[rotund wren]

[small wing]

how much deditatd ram i have for minecra server

[winged quartz]

why my pp hard

[coral vessel]

cus ur touching it

[cold talon]

deditated wam

[winged quartz]

shit

[cold talon]

[winged quartz]

oh hi bahka

[cold talon]

greetings fellow player

[glass yacht]

well this is very mature XD

[winged quartz]

long time no see

[small wing]

please make vrchat a 15 dollar game so i can support and also have a reason to

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard
I meant peer 2 peer not pay2play

[coral vessel]

Vr Bonding Simulator

[vocal shard]

ah

[small wing]

cause otherwise a patreon would scare me off

[cold talon]

peer to peer

that would be soo bad

[indigo fern]

p2p

[winged quartz]

peer to peer chat

[rotund wren]

Why can't we don't for VIP red tag yet. I want to feel special

[cold talon]

what is this

[winged quartz]

sounds like early 2000s

[cold talon]

skype?

[rotund wren]

DonatE*

[small wing]

pay to play, but its also free to play except people who pay get a sick banner

😉 👌

[coral vessel]

well

[small wing]

vrchat crates

😉

[rotund wren]

Can we make a gofundme for european servers?

[vocal shard]

they can't ban you right i know it's probably a dumb rumor, just messages right

[cold talon]

f2p but made by EA

[small wing]

@vocal shard they cant

its fake

[vocal shard]

the owner in another discord keeps telling people they can ban you and it's "100%" confirmed

[polar jasper]

No one would play it then @cold talon

[vocal shard]

just messages right

[cold talon]

M I C R O T R A N S A C T I O N

bwahahah!

[vocal shard]

the message thing's been known for a while

[small wing]

@vocal shard if they ban you an email to vrchat moderation will fix it

[coral vessel]

mtx to vr!!!

[vocal shard]

its an API trick

[cold talon]

but thay cant ban you at all

only log you out

[mellow zephyr]

idk, I'm not worried about the people abusing the api, i'm worried about the people using burners. Got hit by one earlyer. instant bluescreen, which is a good thing in that case but still lol rather annoying to say the least

[small wing]

boi who just laughing emoji reacted

[daring seal]

anyone else getting a black screen when getting on vrchat?

[small wing]

imma yeet u

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[floral flax]

┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

[umbral reef]

@mellow zephyr Update ya drivers buddy

[small wing]

REE

[coral vessel]

i got hit by one and people told me "maybe its just your pc being shit"

[vocal shard]

@daring seal me

[wheat spade]

@daring seal same here

[coral vessel]

FUKIN REEEE

[daring seal]

so its not just me eh...

[umbral reef]

an BSDO doesnt just 'happen' after a crash there are other problems going on then like un updated drivers or programs clashing with eachother

[wheat spade]

fix one issue create a new one

[vocal shard]

Reason why griefers are so prevalent is because the entry fee to the game is... zero dollar. So basically any 12 years old on daddy's computer can download it and follow Youtube tutorials on how to crash people. Now make VRChat cost 20$, and suddenly 12 years old Jimmy cannot afford griefing without begging daddy. And if the griefers still buy it... well... money for the devs and a free ban for the griefers ! Double win !

[umbral reef]

Also start using the particle limiter VRC provides

[small wing]

hey guys did yall notice that vrchat going down actually just makes us closer than we ever were in the first place

[cold talon]

FPAUL When are the random console strings ready!?

[coral vessel]

I update my drivers oof

all the time

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Look at CS;go my friend

[visual moss]

vrchat online

[small wing]

so many people all talking about the same thing

its great

[mellow zephyr]

@umbral reef No? I'm talking about Burners. Aka people rendering a looping script on your gpu that overloads it and thus thermalling it and causing hardware damage, but since my cpu shuts off after X temp, I'm fine.

[small wing]

cause vrchat you dont get that

[cold talon]

well that was fast

[coral vessel]

some crashes cause drivers to stop working from what ive been told

[small wing]

all you get is mirror

mirror bad

[umbral reef]

Unless you download it and ran the cript yourself it wasnt from vrc my bud

[small wing]

mirror kill frames and kill friendships

[winged quartz]

friendships?

[cold talon]

oof i like how the server split in 2

[mellow zephyr]

I mean, you must not be aware of the exploits on this current version of unity then

[vocal shard]

worst they can do is kill your headset untill you restart your pc and that one isn't spread around in discords

[mellow zephyr]

x~x

[median basalt]

@mellow zephyr it doesn't work like that

[umbral reef]

I am and they recently fixed what bug you would mean

[winged quartz]

It's actually 2014-2018...

[visual moss]

Vrchat still sucks at loading

[vocal shard]

did they fix vr yet?

[small wing]

@winged quartz too many people would rather play mirror staring simulator 2018 as opposed to going places and making friends in game.

[coral vessel]

vrchat started in 2014 ya

[median basalt]

Lol

[cold talon]

#vrchat-general-1 lobby talks about the crashers and mostly complain about it

[small wing]

😉

[vocal shard]

@umbral reef Even more restrictive then: Ask for social security number on account creation, like on some South Korean games. If they get banned, well it's Ultra GG.

[umbral reef]

I honestly expect they use any of the other billion ways to overwork an CPU/GPU but running a burner script? ...

[smoky verge]

rip vrchat 2017-2018 🤔 👌

[median basalt]

I did a screenspace mirror blocker in case the mirror staring ever get too bad

[cold talon]

and we just meming in #vrchat-general-2

[winged quartz]

@small wing Well, I'm always editing shit, so 🤔

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Then you need a full checking system for all countries... And hella GL doing that

[small wing]

@winged quartz you are excused then my dear sir.

[crisp moth]

Nope, they can ban you.

[visual moss]

Its ded again

[median basalt]

@crisp moth no they can't

That message is fake

[umbral reef]

@crisp moth hahahahhahaa- No

[vocal shard]

@crisp moth They can only log you out, the can't actually ban you

[median basalt]

Literally nobody has been proven to be actually banned

[cold talon]

@crisp moth who said they can?

[median basalt]

They can send you fake ban messages and probably couple it with the logout exploit

[coral vessel]

idk if the banning is real but crashers are for sure real

[small wing]

i can get banned, but im not an idiot so i wont.

😉

i read tos

[median basalt]

Staff can ban you of course

[small wing]

no joke

[median basalt]

Real staff

[cold talon]

https://imgur.com/60p544j poor dude

[median basalt]

Lol

[vocal shard]

you can't overheat a fugging gpu

[uncut gorge]

Sending messages to people is something anyone can do from the vrchat website

[umbral reef]

Might learn him to not accept any rumor as fact

[vocal shard]

they have hardware stops

[cold talon]

the ping spam

[median basalt]

@uncut gorge this is different, this is like a moderation warning

[crisp moth]

the hacker, I've talked to him and gave him an account to ban. Then it was banned.

[umbral reef]

Its not like the staff themself debunked it

[vocal shard]

and its not like they have access to your fan speed

@umbral reef Even more restrictive: Manual avatar lookup when uploading, with restriction on who can upload and who cannot.

[median basalt]

@crisp moth no proof

If it were that easy then why hasn't anyone shown proof yet?

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Yea then it takes like a year to upload an avatar within a week

[median basalt]

Public proof?

Like even just a video on an alt account being banned?

Or themselves being banned

[umbral reef]

Or it being used widespread and properly reported

[uncut gorge]

I just want them to fix my wrists

[median basalt]

If the bans were real then half the people here would be banned already.

[vocal shard]

@crisp moth
I also seen a hacker "banning" someone on the public lobby but they could log back in without any problems even though they saw a message about being banned so =p

theres none every time smething like this happens theres the same rumor that they'll ban you and spill your milkies

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Thats not the right word then my friend

A ban is not an kick

[median basalt]

If the bans were actually real, the trolls would abuse that until everyone was banned. They have not

[indigo yacht]

are servers up yet ?

[vocal shard]

they'd sit in the pug

[median basalt]

They can only send fake messages and maybe log you out

[vocal shard]

and ban everyone

and there'd be a thousand people complaining here

[median basalt]

@vocal shard yep, all it would take is one person and one hour of time to ban like everyone who's online

[cold talon]

make a script that bans everyone in the instance than moves you to the next one

[small wing]

Or dont

[knotty notch]

i feel sorry for the devs right now, som brat being a troll is causing more work for them

[cold talon]

set it up on multiple dummy accounts

[kindred lake]

I have a friend who got the message and he is still there... so it is 100% fake oof and everybody already said that. They should not have access to serversided functions

[vocal shard]

its some kiddies trying to spread their l33t haxor discord

[median basalt]

I feel sorry for everyone who comes in here due to people like Mitch (and others of course) spreading misinformation in their servers about fried CPU's

[kindred lake]

xD

[vocal shard]

rokk: what happened to me

[tacit plank]

Yeah, don't download anything from that Discord

[azure wren]

"guys washout now hackers can turn tour gpu into bacon!!11!!!1!!"

[umbral reef]

Can we start a VRC wikipedia and make a page of fake callouts from big servers yet?

[vocal shard]

i just came to make sure it was a rumor like i expected

[median basalt]

Yeah

[cold talon]

the only thing you can fry is some eggs and bacon

[umbral reef]

I want to call people out for being dummies 👀

[vocal shard]

that whole stupid "they'll kill your cpu and kill your dog" thing

[tacit plank]

VRChat wiki would be cool

[cold talon]

not your cpu on gpu

[knotty notch]

no not the dog! (doesnt have a dog)

[umbral reef]

There is already an version off it but meh- Not dope enough

[vocal shard]

how can they fry your gpu by putting it at 100%? then doing blender renders would kill it

VRChat wiki would requires a LOT of moderator because it would be completely griefed.

[tacit plank]

Last time I used a VRChat wiki, I installed the wrong Unity version. That's how outdated it was

[knotty notch]

but seriously, so far people are causing hard crashes with shaders and particles

[vast tulip]

Everyone knows that the only way a particle can fry your gpu is if the particles are red enough /s

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Nah

Its not that hard to moderate

[small wing]

can confirm

i am red

[vocal shard]

it would require actual hacking which these script kiddies have no idea how to do

[small wing]

i fry everything

[umbral reef]

Just dont accept all edits as facts and monitor them

[median basalt]

I can confirm mimi's statement as well. You're using up all the red in my GPU

[kindred lake]

Some hackers came in to my house and gave me 100$ and left D:

[median basalt]

From now on please use blue particles to even out my GPU ink

[small wing]

RolltheRED

[vocal shard]

and if they were to hack into the vrchat servers they'd be after financial shit not stupid crap like l33t haxxoring the playbase

[vast tulip]

It's because the red particles are hotter

[tacit plank]

But truth is that it's much easier to destroy something than to make it

[umbral reef]

Check if users made edits before if so- Trust them more
Troll stuff? Block there edits from showing up in the system agian but dont block them from sending

[small wing]

@vast tulip thanks for calling me hot then 😉

[vast tulip]

Are you a particle?!

[crisp moth]

the api is a man in the middle that works alongside photon to verify users
when you join a room with someone your photon properties are sent to the photon servers which has a plugin inside of it
the plugin works alongside with the vrchat api to verify users, if the user is failed to be verified it kicks them out
the photon server requires no auth, the only thing you have to do is feed it a user id when you join and it will let you in

[vocal shard]

red is a hot doodoo head

[small wing]

@vast tulip i can be anything you want me to be 😚

[cold talon]

scuse me but white particles are the hottest

[vocal shard]

@umbral reef Also permaban, no excuse. Hurt their little feelings.

[small wing]

actually i was a mesh particle one time

[tacit plank]

Inconspicious, you should tell the VRChat staff if they're not aware yet

[umbral reef]

Well yea- But dont block them from submiting
Shadow bans are the best bans 🙈

[small wing]

so ironically i can say yes to that statement haha

[leaden kiln]

they were told in Feburary

[tacit plank]

Also, tell your friends to use the latest SDK for uploading anything, I believe that it fixes cache ripping

[crisp moth]

I've told Tupper, no response yet though.

[small wing]

tupper knows if its about the servers

they just made an announcement

[vocal shard]

inconspicious go on the 4chan vrchat discord and @ him there

[crisp moth]

It's not about the servers, bug off.

[vocal shard]

@tacit plank It also finally fix the temporary freezing of the entire Unity software when the upload window is open.

[small wing]

Woah

someone is sassy

oof

[cold talon]

ouch

[tacit plank]

Lol nice

[small wing]

sorry if i made you angrey

[cold talon]

-15hp

[small wing]

ree

[crisp moth]

4chan VRChat discord..?

[small wing]

its a joke ya dingus

[azure wren]

is it?

[vast tulip]

I don't think it is

[small wing]

idk i think it should be a joke 🤔

maybe its not

maybe the illuminati is telling me things

[vocal shard]

I'm betting 10$ that 4chan is implicated in those server issues. The garbage can of the Internet hit something nice with its stink again.

@crisp moth they might get pissy at you for doing it though but i think tupper cares more about them

its not 4chan

Forgot 4chan even existed

4chan is a shell of its former self

[small wing]

4chan is weak and nimble.

all hail reddit

[vocal shard]

now its stupid right wing /pol/ shit mixed with dorks whoa ren't interested in hacking

They have financial issues too.

Good riddance.

theres a 4chan vrchat group who don't crash or hack they're just really xenophobic and catty

[winged quartz]

wait what about the vrg

[vocal shard]

they're a bunch of women lol

"women"

[winged quartz]

women

[small wing]

human beings

man i hate human beings

sphere heads rule

[sudden agate]

edgy

[small wing]

and dont even get me talking about those square guys

end me

[vocal shard]

@small wing If I could be a robot, I would. I'm sorry for being stuck in a biological body. T.T

[mellow hamlet]

Back on for me, hopefully it is for you guys too

[crisp moth]

Link?

[small wing]

Zelda.

[crisp moth]

@vocal shard

:face_palm:

[vocal shard]

fine

uh

[tacit plank]

4chan users used to be smart, edgy assholes. Now they're basically Reddit users

[small wing]

Hey

reddit aint no ho

we are the good guys xd

[umbral reef]

Roll- Guess you dont know how reddit works

[small wing]

"xd"

[tacit plank]

Well, they're a bit better than Reddit, as they don't like censorship as much

[small wing]

quoted

[umbral reef]

fucking hell reddit is worse with accepting people then 4chan in this day and age

[small wing]

"xd"

sarcasm

[vocal shard]

Reddit: The intelligent and informative posts are great, the dumb and juvenile posts are worst than 4chan.

[umbral reef]

fucking auto ban bots for having comments or points in specific subs-
Shared banlists for right and left leaning communities
Extreme censoring and bias

[small wing]

at least its not the *youtube comments section

[vocal shard]

OH GOD

[small wing]

hehe

[vocal shard]

when i open up twitter i feel like im watching a bunch of stereotype strawmen argue with each other

[small wing]

^ this

[tacit plank]

Reddit has few smart people though, which is probably because they left. Shadowbans are a malicious way to moderate, companies are gaming Reddit for popularity and advertisement, and the website and its staff are politcally biased

[umbral reef]

Its hard to find a clean fair reddit now

[vocal shard]

Youtube comment section is basically the dumping ground of the lowest of the low of the Internet.

[small wing]

Yep

[vocal shard]

Mainly parrots, repeating all the same dumb stuff.

[small wing]

i call it the "These people HAVE to be bots to be this stupid" section.

[tacit plank]

At least you can swear in it, or state your opinion without fearing having your account banned. For now, at least

[small wing]

actually you cant

[vocal shard]

does politically biased mean bans actual nazis?

that used to be pretty normal

[small wing]

youtube hides offensive comments

[vocal shard]

now it's "politically biased" to ban racists and nazis

[small wing]

and when i say offensive i mean thats how they state it works

[vocal shard]

that used to be just what you did

[small wing]

meaning there is no vindictive explanation of what "offensive" is .

[vocal shard]

Pretty sure Youtube allows posting comments that would make someone throw themselves down a bridge.

[tacit plank]

It's biased in a way that any criticism against Reddit, the media or left-leaning articles can get you banned

[small wing]

Wow

yeah that sounds scuffed

[vocal shard]

i wouldn't doubt they abuse the definition of offensive to ba antireddit comments or whatever

[keen mesa]

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

[tranquil vapor]

my connection keeps timing out what gives fam

[keen mesa]

deal with it

[tacit plank]

"Offensive" is anything they don't like

[vocal shard]

but a lot of the stuf fspread about reddit being biased come from far right wing sources who want to poison the pot

It's an American website. Of course it's going to be controversial.

because they ban nazis

and shit like fatpeoplehate

[tacit plank]

When was the last time you saw a political thread on Reddit without a literal 1000 [Removed] posts?

[vocal shard]

and trans hate subreddits and shit

[small wing]

"I quote people i never met" - Rollthered

[tacit plank]

You're mistaken, they ban anything that gets them bad PR

[small wing]

guess who i quoted.

[vocal shard]

/pol/ and stormfront etc have threads where they specifically make plans

[small wing]

😉

[vocal shard]

on how to spread controversies like reddit being biased and shit

caffeine i believe you though

[small wing]

Waiting to catch someone with that

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard The Youtube comment section is especially soul-crushing depressing for trans folk.

it's grey not black and white

[uncut gorge]

if you believe in free speech, then you have to allow things like making fun of fat people and trans

[small wing]

🎣

[vocal shard]

rak yeah legally

they can have their own websites

but if you own a private website

you can do what you want

vrchat bans for hitler avatars

[tacit plank]

Just because they're not breaking the law doesn't mean that they're in the right morally

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard just remember that these are people who take the time to post youtube comments

[lucid island]

the immensely major reason why Youtube comments are so fucked is because the combination of easy upvotes and the sorting of comments based on that

[small wing]

They ban hitler avatars because they are probably afraid of getting a bad rep for it

[vocal shard]

what are they doing with their lives getting caught up in political shit not involving them?

[small wing]

which is fine by me imo

[uncut gorge]

remember hatreon? the patreon without moderation? the lefties went and got their hosting provider to shut them down, so...no they can't have their own website

[tacit plank]

Anything with "trans" in the title gets demonitized automatically from Youtube

[modern sand]

Can this move over to #general-media please ?

[tacit plank]

Ohright

[small wing]

Point taken

moving now

[bronze plinth]

I was able to log back into VrChat and load in

[floral aspen]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 3443 users in VRChat currently

[coral vessel]

oof

[cold talon]

!offline

oh they still haven't implemented it

[vocal shard]

dont go to 4chans

they will hack your smart car

[cold talon]

not my mini cooper

damet i killed the chat

[vocal shard]

@cold talon Do you really have a Mini ?

[cold talon]

for what are you gonna use that info?

[vocal shard]

For saying "Mini are cool"

lol

[cold talon]

indeed they are

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 4410 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

hih

[surreal panther]

still cant open my menu without crashing so ill wait longer

[cinder walrus]

Guys I have "unauthorized" error when I try to login at vrchat,how to fix this?

[placid umbra]

Try copy-pasting your password into the VRChat login field

[vocal shard]

[placid umbra]

You can also try logging in your your email address instead of your username

[cinder walrus]

Thanks,now it's working

[warm remnant]

Hey everyone, I have hear plenty of rumors about hacker who have the ability to ban, and delete accounts. Is there any validity behind this or is it just another spread of false information?

[golden bluff]

They can't ban accounts

[covert chasm]

No. I've seen hundreds of "rumors" about VRChat and they are never correct.

[warm remnant]

Lol nice, I'll be sure to inform my friends that they are incorrect

[ruby needle]

To bad that there never has been official #announcements for it right.

[umbral reef]

@warm remnant Just assume two things
There has not been posted proper clearly confirmed proof? Its fake
Has VRC posted anything about it? If no- Its fake

[golden bluff]

Hey tupper can I dm you something involving the cheats?

[tacit plank]

Tell them to find just one piece of evidence lol

[ruby needle]

(there was one a few min ago. it doesnt hurt reding that)

[vocal shard]

everything ne gative you hear about vrchat isn't correct

think positive!

does that mean that the electrons flowing through transistors in your computer that allow the game to run aren't real

[clear swift]

I had someone last night flat out tell me he was part of a community that could do certain things. Even if they can't, I wish I recorded because he named a lot of names and I want to do whatever I can for the mods. It's just so much work to put in reports with proper evidence.

[warm remnant]

Don't get me wrong I didn't believe them and have been in public lobbies they have been afraid of enter for some time since I heard them talking about it, I just wanted to have some back up on my stance on it.

[marsh slate]

someone has a link of some animated scp skin

[vocal shard]

yes here you go

False infos, and you should report those assholes spreading said false info.

[DATA EXPUNGED]

[warm remnant]

I'd perfer not to report my friends, though it may be nice to have a page denouncing these rumors

[ruby needle]

#announcements

how much more you want?

[vocal shard]

People went full paranoid and believed they got banned from the game... until they restarted the game and realized they weren't banned.

[warm remnant]

my B I didn't read the last sentence

[vocal shard]

Pretty sure they used to be able to actually kick people with this same thing a long time ago

they could send a message too

people didn't try to log back in

and were certain they were banned

(they werent)

I wonder if moderators have special versions of the VRChat client that allows monitoring stuff, sort of like a debugger.

[grand fable]

What's this fake bans stuff my friend told me about because it really makes me not wanna play VRChat until it's resolved because I value my account to much? I don't know does anyone wanna explain this to me so I have a even better understanding of it.

[ruby needle]

@grand fable #announcements

[grand fable]

Ah okay.

[vocal shard]

Also nice avatar.

tldr, it is fake

you are not actually banned

[grand fable]

Does it actually give you a ban where you can't play? That's what i'm mainly wondering?

[vocal shard]

no

[grand fable]

Ah okie dokie then.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

[vocal shard]

👌

[uncut trail]

No vrc till this thing get fixed

[unkempt hawk]

so i take it that vrc still has some hacker problems and that i shouldn't get on until further notice

[vocal shard]

crashers and avatar stealers

and the fake message thing

thats all

[unkempt hawk]

oof that's a sign

[golden bluff]

Avatar stealing has been patched unless they already found a new method

[vocal shard]

seriously!?

[golden bluff]

Yes

[vocal shard]

thank god

[uncut trail]

What about people who had mod powers?

[vocal shard]

that is not mod powers

[unkempt hawk]

well that's good to hear

[true timber]

Well it's more like the previous, easy way of stealing avatars was patched

[uncut trail]

Ability to ban people ?

[vocal shard]

all they can do is display the message

no, they can't ban you

that is more than enough

[shell nest]

if they brute force your password they can just login the website and delete your account VRChat has absolutely 0 2FA

[vocal shard]

That's why you use super long passwords made of upper case letters, lower case letters, numbers and symbols. You make brute force attacks too time consuming for the hackers.

[prisma timber]

Jesus

[grand fable]

So is VRChat currently worth playing with everything going on or should I for say just wait for things to get a little un mess I shall say?

[vocal shard]

It's playable if you join friends in a private room.

[shell nest]

@grand fable seems fine for me

[vocal shard]

it is not as bad as it sounds

[ruby needle]

^

[grand fable]

Fair enough, also one more thing. How do people move there avatar around without them actually moving around because I have full body and this would be very useful to use so I can get things below my floor or so on?

[neon flume]

Do you mean something like playspace mover?
https://github.com/naelstrof/VRPlayspaceMover

[grand fable]

Like where you can drag yourself?

[neon flume]

Yup! That's what I use to "climb" around the world.

[grand fable]

Awesome.

I just exact it right?

[neon flume]

They have a bit of an installation guide in the readme. You'll need VR input emulator first.

Also, I suggest looking into the advanced configuration because you can do fun stuff like sliding across the floor or floating into the sky.

[grand fable]

I have VR in put emulator already I just have been trying to figure what the thing was called.

Also thank you so much!

[rough pulsar]

@neon flume I'm guessing OpenVRInputEmulator still needs the input-emulator-temporary beta, right?

[vocal shard]

anyone know some free prefabs for a gunfire effect?

[floral aspen]

have you checked the unity store?

[vocal shard]

Just finished reading 1k+ messages about people talking out of their ass about perma ban from script kiddies, idiots spreading rumors about some randoms frying your hardware and morons believing every rumors
What a shitfeast that was

[neon flume]

I actually haven’t needed the input emulator beta. I’ve been on a different beta branch to fix the screenshot shortcut.

[grand fable]

I boot up the playspacemover and it doesn't let me drag myself around.

[floral aspen]

lol be glad you weren't here for it Svel. Can't believe how many people believed the hacker known as 6chan was behind the outage

[vocal shard]

Good that i wasnt there

yeah i saw someone spreading the one about people frying hardware through the game

this chat needs feminism

might as well just believe every chain telling people to block X discord user because they'll "DDoS your discord"

[paper cloak]

yo they're gonna fry my cpu and shave my head with their big boi hackies

help

[cold talon]

they'll lock you out of your pc and than use it for bitcoin mining

[ivory folio]

any ideas why my game is locked to 60 fps in desktop mode, even with DesktopLow quality settings?

[grand fable]

@neon flume I boot up the playspacemover and it doesn't let me drag myself around.

[shrewd glacier]

When will the security thingy be fixed

[vocal shard]

Never

Next question

[ruby needle]

When do we get multithreading *

[vocal shard]

Also never

[floral aspen]

Eventually

[shrewd glacier]

But how did the security thing happend

[vocal shard]

Because bad security

[cold talon]

so in 40246years to be exact

[shrewd glacier]

Why didnt they hire a pen tester then?

[floral aspen]

it happened because no system is foolproof
and yeah, probably because security could use improvement

[vocal shard]

Becausd no money

[shrewd glacier]

Some of them do it for free

[floral aspen]

the team is small and the game is unfinished

[neon flume]

Hmm alright maybe try out the input emulator beta then. You can access it through steam and then right clicking on steam VR

[cold talon]

game will be finished when it ports to unity 2018

[vocal shard]

So never

[cold talon]

^

[vocal shard]

let's start a gofund me for vrchat's development

[rough pulsar]

@ivory folio I'm guessing the framerate is being locked to your display's refresh rate, or something similar.

[vocal shard]

we'll make vrchat great again

[shrewd glacier]

If we find out where the hackers are lets riot

[cold talon]

oh wait so moon wasnt joking?

[shrewd glacier]

If vrchat goes down we riot

[marble nest]

Rip

[paper cloak]

game will be full of sadbois when we go to unity2018 and all content is wiped

[grand fable]

@neon flume It connects just fine but when I go to press the buttons (at least I think it's the right buttons) it no worko..

[cold talon]

why would you want higher than 60 on a monitor

[vocal shard]

Ye

Your eyes can only see 24 fps anyway

[rough pulsar]

Maybe they have one of those sweet high refresh rate monitors?

[floral aspen]

probably because he has a high refresh rate monitor

[shrewd glacier]

Who is with me? VrChat goes down we riot

[vocal shard]

more like celebrate

[marble nest]

Yup...

[vocal shard]

Nah, ill just make a burger

i mean what

[floral aspen]

VRChat already went down and it was chaos. You missed it lol

[marble nest]

tru

[cold talon]

its better capped tho, that way you gpu doesn't try to go all out to render 200 fps

[paper cloak]

lol

[floral aspen]

lol wut

[paper cloak]

that aint how it works

[shrewd glacier]

Guys where shall we start a riot

[floral aspen]

what if he has a 144Hz monitor?

[vocal shard]

Its useless, our eyes dont see that fast

30hz max is the way to go

[cold talon]

yeah its facts eyes can only see 2 fps

[shrewd glacier]

144Hz is the way to go

@cold talon thats a myth

Eyes can see up to 80fps

[vocal shard]

Nah

[shrewd glacier]

Depends on how good ur eyes are

[vocal shard]

Its 24 max

[marble nest]

Lol

[vocal shard]

Thats why cinemas are ib 24 fps

[cold talon]

its not the fps that kills its the delay

[vocal shard]

Fact

[cold talon]

[vocal shard]

the human eye doesn't see different wavelengths of visible light, it can only distinguish light and dark

[shrewd glacier]

If i swing my fist down in vr i can see it at 60 fps

[vocal shard]

we should all be playing our games in grayscale

[floral aspen]

the....delay? ...wut?

[shrewd glacier]

If i swing it down irl i can also see it 60fps

[vocal shard]

Its your brain tricking you my dude

Its 24 fpa

Fps

[shrewd glacier]

Nop

[vocal shard]

Its a fact

[paper cloak]

you guys aren't seriously falling for this are you?

this shit was old in like 2008

[ruby needle]

@paper cloak still worth

[cold talon]

yeah i found about it from watch mojo

so its fact

20 fps max

[shrewd glacier]

Eyes cna see up to 1000fps

[vocal shard]

Alternative fact * as some people call it

our eyes can only see up to number 15

[shrewd glacier]

https://www.google.nl/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&q=how+many+fps+can+the+human+eye+see

[vocal shard]

burger king foot lettuce

[floral aspen]

Svel is probs just memeing Mochie, idk about b9768011 I'm not typing the rest of that

[cold talon]

the last thing you want in your 144hz monitor

[indigo fern]

[cold talon]

but as it turns out thats what you might be

oh hi n8

[vocal shard]

is someone else's unoptimized avatars

hi n8

[indigo fern]

hi n8

[vocal shard]

I dont meme, in always serious
We cannonly see 24 fps, thats why cinemas are in 24fps, if we can see more then it would be higher
I laugh at people buying 144hz monitors and believing those ads
Ridiculous

[indigo fern]

👌

[floral aspen]

lol okay then

[indigo fern]

This man has his facts straight

[vocal shard]

Alternative facts*

[cold talon]

tidus please

just call me bahka

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 5322 users in VRChat currently

[cold talon]

thats what my name translates to after all

[indigo fern]

So it's not your asl?

Shiet

[marble nest]

Anyone Else Getting The Message On Vr Chat ''Could Not Log In Unauthorized'' ?

[cold talon]

[timid dragon]

what is that moderation spam shit

my vrchtat gets spammed with it

[vocal shard]

Its a modded client

Just restart the game and you ll be fine

[mellow zephyr]

@floral aspen hush idiotidus

[floral aspen]

no u

[mellow zephyr]

u no 😉

the game that tears relationshps apart.

like monopoly...

[vocal shard]

Long ago, VR chat lived in perfect harmony.. but it all changed once the crasher nation attacked..

[mellow zephyr]

after kanna and then the influx of memes it hasn't been the same

but that's fine

[fast bronze]

i never understood crashers XD it does nothing XD

[mellow zephyr]

well it crashes you

[vocal shard]

It annoys people

[floral aspen]

Long ago, VR chat lived in perfect harmony.. but it all changed once the crasher nation knuckles attacked..

[vocal shard]

And its fun to annoy people

No

[mellow zephyr]

#api abuse

[fast bronze]

hmm, i didnt get annoyed i just reported it and moved on

[mellow zephyr]

so you admit it did Something @fast bronze

I SEE

[cold talon]

we need a trust system for the api

tupper plz implement

[fast bronze]

i kicked soemone yesterday from my discord server for talking about abi abuse as in wanting info on doing just that

[mellow zephyr]

you have to be a steam user for a month to make an account @cold talon

[vocal shard]

Only Club penguin, master of all programming could bring balance to gaming.. but when we needed it most, it vanished.

[cold talon]

[mellow zephyr]

imagine thoi

that'd be insane

[cold talon]

the good days of vrc when we had custom scripting

[mellow zephyr]

BUT WHAT IF. your friends list carried over.

bam

[vocal shard]

Imagine

[mellow zephyr]

We're all steam users now

[cold talon]

make the whole game closed beta, invite only

[mellow zephyr]

or just pay to play

[tropic spoke]

make the game ptp

[mellow zephyr]

rip

^

[vocal shard]

Can’t live without that stranger things theater world

[mellow zephyr]

eh it's user generator content, i'd do 20 maybe

[fast bronze]

id pay 200$ a year for scripting in my world

[tropic spoke]

ransomware requiring 200 dollars to unlock

[cold talon]

[vocal shard]

I’d do 69

[mellow zephyr]

6 - 9? that's an odd preference

oddly specific.

[fast bronze]

thats like saying 489321

[mellow zephyr]

like a toy at toys r us

like damn i'm 9 can't use the 10 year+ toy

damn

[tropic spoke]

you must pay 69 dollars to get the lewd world where you must accept an 18+ warning to join

[mellow zephyr]

notworth

[vocal shard]

THAT WAS A SECRET

[tropic spoke]

sorry vrc, i know i just violated our contract but i leaked the wonderful idea

[vocal shard]

420.69 and you get a crash gun

Gdi

[tropic spoke]

wix website builder but for vrc models*, with crash guns, and avatar stealing

[mellow zephyr]

bascially.

[cold talon]

rec room flashbacks

[umbral reef]

Isnt that just the one website where you can download the unity models and go? 🤔

Fairly sure its the same thing

[mellow zephyr]

^thats what I said

[tropic spoke]

^^ thats what i said

[pine pilot]

wtf is this message spamming on my screen xd

[fast bronze]

XD

[tropic spoke]

me

[pine pilot]

had to close vr chat bc of it

[mellow zephyr]

wtf is this golem on mine?

[cold talon]

oh it was us

[mellow zephyr]

the world wonders

[tropic spoke]

ooh i want to see and record this wonder

[vocal shard]

@pine pilot modded client

[cold talon]

we wanted you to join in the convo

[pine pilot]

xd

[tropic spoke]

im going to go check the total great war

[vocal shard]

Avoid public worlds for now

[cold talon]

so welcome @pine pilot

[mellow zephyr]

still tho

[pine pilot]

they should probs take vr chat down untill theyre gone

[tropic spoke]

im going to go to a hub and see this yeet me luck

[vocal shard]

No

[mellow zephyr]

meeps is usually a chill dude, surprised he is up to this stuff kinda

w.e

[umbral reef]

so take vrc down forever :thonk:

Dope

[pine pilot]

there was some random ass thing asking permissions to my harddrive

[cold talon]

yoot

[vocal shard]

@mellow zephyrhe did that on purpose

[mellow zephyr]

well obviously he did it on purpose

wha

[vocal shard]

So they stress out the devs and they fix it immediately

[umbral reef]

@pine pilot Congratz you where dumb enough to prob download a virus outside of VRC

[tropic spoke]

what do you mean by asking perms to your hard drive

[pine pilot]

what yo mena

XD

[mellow zephyr]

yeah I figured it was something like that at the end of the day

[pine pilot]

havent downloaded anything

[tropic spoke]

its called asking for administative privileges

[mellow zephyr]

because he's legit a chill guy

[pine pilot]

for 2 months

it happened when that modded retard came into my world

[vocal shard]

@mellow zephyr he actually confirmed it on another discord

[mellow zephyr]

neato

[umbral reef]

And i can confirm he confirmed it

[tropic spoke]

also, do we know if a linux build is coming to vrchat

[mellow zephyr]

my faith in him is restored

he's still wholesome

[vocal shard]

I can triple confirm that

No linux build

[tropic spoke]

i need linux build

[umbral reef]

Still- he took shit bit to far so he is still an good old cunt

[keen mesa]

vrchat needs DirectX

[vocal shard]

Break, he basically explained the exploit to the devs
They did nothing so he started to run around with that client

[keen mesa]

no linux for you

[tropic spoke]

die

now

[mellow zephyr]

Yeah I understand that

that kinda thing has happened before

[tropic spoke]

how to make linux users sad

[vocal shard]

Make them use windows

[tropic spoke]

n0

[mellow zephyr]

I'v known about the api stuff for a while but i'v never personally messed with it because I could care less x~x

[vocal shard]

Since they all become anti windows as soon as Linux is installed

[cold talon]

linux runing win vm

[tropic spoke]

lol

[mellow zephyr]

glad in some what that someone forced the issue to fix security issues if i'm honest

way*

[vocal shard]

Yup

[mellow zephyr]

not the first time it has happened won't be the last

[vocal shard]

Brutal way to do it but at least its effective to nake stuff move

[keen mesa]

I used linux in dual boot for a while

[umbral reef]

He is also honeslty fucking dumb to do it on a weekend day

Fucking throw it on a tuesday- Get plenty of annoyed peeps still and the devs are in home to fix it properly fast

[keen mesa]

conclusions: linux is absolute garbage for desktop

[halcyon ingot]

If he showed the exploit to the devs and they didn't fix it I can see why he's doing what he is doing

[mellow zephyr]

100% sure more than just him probably pointed it out

lol

[keen mesa]

it runs servers and embed things perfectly yes but you touch a thing and everythig breaks

[halcyon ingot]

I'm not sure why they wouldn't fix it tho, considering when the final ik exploit got shown off it was patched in 1 day

[cold talon]

uff final ik

[keen mesa]

hey user do you need that X server? nah I don't think so I'm gonna break it

[cold talon]

it hurts

[umbral reef]

because that exploit was being used..

[cold talon]

it was used to separate gestures 🤔

[halcyon ingot]

It had the potential to be used for worse things

[mellow zephyr]

i'v accepted at this point that things will get fixed eventually ™
Reminds me of riot games in like season 1-3 where the heavy meme was always SOON ™

[cold talon]

it had because people could spawn web panels on avatars and run scripts on them

[granite coral]

mmm, you could try to play vrchat with steamplay, they added it recently on the steam beta for linux

[rough pulsar]

We literally have a VRSoon :B

[vocal shard]

oh no

[mellow zephyr]

You can still use scripts on avatars if you Really want to and you're driven to edit files.
The sdk's far from perfect, as we know.
glad they disabled the web panels for those reasons so quickly at least.

[rough pulsar]

Also apparently some have tested VRchat with Steamplay and it doesn't work well, sadly.

[cold talon]

yes oh

[mellow zephyr]

@rough pulsar oh we do? neato

[cunning anchor]

Anybody going to do anything about this shit ?

[rough pulsar]

Pretty sure it was from back when was the running meme

[cunning anchor]

2nd time in a few days I got this.

[granite coral]

Oh, unfortunate, maybe in the future will have better support

[mellow zephyr]

@cunning anchor refer to announcements

[granite coral]

i guess having the entire vr part throws off steamplay a bit

[cunning anchor]

Mmm k

[ruby needle]

@cunning anchor please dont link pictures with the link in it.

[vocal shard]

The fuck is the meme?

[ruby needle]

unity version?

i guess

[rough pulsar]

STORY TIME

[mellow zephyr]

part of me wonders if he just has a bot parsing the active player base and sending that to whomever it comes across lol

[heavy narwhal]

Any news on those hackers in VRC right now?

[rough pulsar]

back when vrchat ran on unity 5.3, the update to unity 5.6 was slow and shouting out "FIVE SIX" became a meme until the release.

[vocal shard]

Read the #announcements

[mellow zephyr]

ye I know that one

that's so old

god when we update to a new unity it's going to be the same

[cold talon]

will we get the unity 2018 meme too?

[vocal shard]

Its going to be magical

[rough pulsar]

At the time it was this magical mystical wonder, including things like Single-pass Stereo, full-body tracking, the post-processing stack and others.

[granite coral]

so now 2018 is the new meme since people want unity update? lul

[mellow zephyr]

it's going to be fucking worth it for sure

[keen mesa]

unity 2018.1 or 2018.2 never

[vocal shard]

Fbt

[keen mesa]

muh api breaks

[mellow zephyr]

even just one unity version up would fix a few major exploitable issues tbh

[rough pulsar]

Bear in mind this was back when vrchat was a lot smaller (before 5.6 we managed to break the audio system with only about 40 people) and things were simply different.

[cold talon]

multithreading

[mellow zephyr]

ye

[vocal shard]

I remember the audio breaking wheb you have too many people

It can sill happen tho

[mellow zephyr]

or someone playing audio and bam

broken

[vocal shard]

But a lot less now

[rough pulsar]

Yeah, but it had never happened before because we'd never had that many people online and in one instance before.

So it was kind of a big deal at the time.

[granite coral]

honestly right now i would be surprised to see 40 people in one room and anyone trying to run away cause of lag

[winged quartz]

My audio was breaking on Pan's map a little back ago

Like 2 months or so

With only me

Also some douches with those broken animations can fuck my audio easily

[glass yacht]

are there issues again? Every time I click the button to upload an avatar it instafails

[quiet perch]

I uploaded one about and hour or two ago

No problems

[ocean bramble]

Maybe old SDK?

[glass yacht]

no, been uploading all day

just started doing this

[vocal shard]

benis

:::DDD

[glass yacht]

https://image.ibb.co/jXm8JU/why.png

thats the message

[timid dragon]

this

[ruby needle]

@timid dragon dont lnk pictures with the discord link

[timid dragon]

lemme censor it

[ruby needle]

not needed

[timid dragon]

what is that then

[ruby needle]

read #announcements

[timid dragon]

can it be fixxed

[true sky]

i wonder if they are making a patch for it

[ruby needle]

solutions are beeing looked at / worked on.

nothing to be done on user side

[timid dragon]

so they can ban people?

[vocal shard]

no

They can't, indeed.

anything they do is clientside bans are serverside

[ruby needle]

they can spoof your client into thinking you have been banned but due to it just beeing a spoof you can just restart an all is good

[next glade]

lol

[vocal shard]

Hacker man

Is that meep

The script kiddy?

[next glade]

its kitty but ye

taken from google asffff

[vocal shard]

Hope revs can fix the issues thou

Devs*

They can

They just need time to figure out what the client is doing and exploiting

Then they need to test it to be aure its fixed

Theb roll out an update

[next glade]

chu mean
they already know boy

[cunning anchor]

They probably just inject data in vrchat.

[low dagger]

So what if you click ok on that fake moderation message? I didnt personally and changed my password after was just wondering

[cunning anchor]

It will just log you out

Or crash your game.

[low dagger]

Oh alright lol no stealing accounts?

[cunning anchor]

So far I know, no

[true sky]

sending output logs can help if you get logged out 😉

[cunning anchor]

Well

When you restart game, I need to login again.

So it somehow kills the session when that message appears.

[true sky]

dont restart the game if it happens

cause outputlogs will reset

[cunning anchor]

I know

I put output logs in email before exitting vrchat

[true sky]

ah

[low dagger]

Oh shit I forgot is that just for the vrchat guys to fix the problem?

Is this problem widespread atm?

[cunning anchor]

Yes

They probably inject it into vrchat

[true sky]

in public worlds, yes

[cunning anchor]

Like they do with WoW clients and such

[true sky]

i had it happen in my own world

[low dagger]

People just have to ruin everything don’t they

[cunning anchor]

Of course.

When they find a way, they will abuse

[low dagger]

True

[true sky]

abuse b4 fixed

[cunning anchor]

Well, if vrchat servers don't check the content being sent to other clients, then it's easy to abuse it.

[true sky]

same as skin snatching

client just assumes you can use it and doesnt check if public or private

only avatar pedistals check for it

[cunning anchor]

Well, no idea, but as far as I noticed, they seem to either inject into the game, thus vrchat sents it to the server, but I wonder why a moderation-message is publicly accessible by normal accounts.

[ruby needle]

@true sky not anymore

[true sky]

ik

:)

[low dagger]

Is the reports of CPU’s being fried sometimes true? Or are they just overreaction

[cunning anchor]

that's overreaction

[compact river]

fakkke

[cunning anchor]

Unless you overclocked your stuff

and don't cool it properly.

[true sky]

gpu crashers are a thing, but never heard of a fried gpu

[cunning anchor]

But yah, it just looks like injection of the game using a injector tool.

Basically, what most World of Warcraft cheat apps use.

[low dagger]

But is there anything these people can do that is serious damage or anything or is it just annoying things like crashes

[cunning anchor]

No, they just figured out how to bypass a security check on server, or so it seems.

Again, a moderation message able to sent by public game clients without authentication check ?

[sullen venture]

its all client-side stuff they're doing, would be more dangerous if it was server-side

[cunning anchor]

As long as they don't exploit the server to execute random code.

Then it's, pretty safe to say it's fine.

[true sky]

client side = dont need server to check anything

[sullen venture]

well i doubt that they'll suddenly find a 0-day or something like that lol

[true sky]

why alot of issues occured

[cunning anchor]

Server needs to be sure the account sending moderation messages, is actually allowed to do so @true sky

[next glade]

what makes you think moderation messages don't have authentication

[sullen venture]

because fake mod messages are being sent out

[true sky]

^^

[cunning anchor]

@next glade If they did, someone wouldn't be able to sent these.

[next glade]

by a person with mod permissions

4head

[cunning anchor]

If the "hacker" has mod permissions, then it sounds like a serious breach.

[sullen venture]

seems like its only the mod message they have access to

[low dagger]

So if you get this message restart then log back in nothings gonna happen right? It’s just an annoyance?

[ruby needle]

they spoof the clients that they have it but dont avtually have it

[sullen venture]

yeah

[cunning anchor]

@low dagger Yes

[low dagger]

Alright awesome

[ruby needle]

thus the client executes the messages and actions but a relaunch fixes it.

[cunning anchor]

@ruby needle Yah as in injection..

[sullen venture]

but don't go to any discord links that may be in those messages

[cunning anchor]

As I said xx times

It's not spoofing, they just change memory code in vrchat app, in order to sent out a flag that is like "moderator = true"

Or something similar.

[low dagger]

Wouldn’t dream of it @sullen venture lol

[sullen venture]

just sayin lol

[low dagger]

Well an immediate red flag was a guy yelling “PRESS OK!” Over and over lmao

[cunning anchor]

@ruby needle There is 2 possibilities though, either they modify the data being sent out by the client, and change bits of it, or the client is being injected.

[ruby needle]

afaik its a photon exploit they use to spoof the messages

[low dagger]

It was weird because after a few seconds it brought me to a new pub with 0 people anywhere does that mean that room was shutdown or something?

[cunning anchor]

Photon ?
You mean particles ?

[ruby needle]

no

the networking thing

[cunning anchor]

Ahhh

Right..

[next glade]

LOL

[cunning anchor]

Yah, I'm not really familiar with the VRchat code, so I'm just guessing here, from experience with other servers I host.

[next glade]

i should hope ur not

decompiling is AGAINST TOS BUDDY

[cunning anchor]

No shit, why do you think I don't do that 😉

But what does a player stop by ignoring the ToS ?

Nobody,

Obviously the ones creating these exploits, won't openly scream that they created exploits though xD

If they are smart... xD

[ruby needle]

the one thing that rarely gets punished is modifing the SDK

other things get punished if reported and proven.

[cunning anchor]

I find things like that moderation warning, a pretty bad thing for vrchat though.

[next glade]

how do u expect the devs to know if you have a modified sdk lmao

its scripts

[granite coral]

well, not that modifying the sdk gives you that much lol

[cunning anchor]

Enough to have a modified one I guess @granite coral

Otherwise it wouldn't be around.

[ruby needle]

@next glade well... by you having content on your account that would have been denied by the official one

[granite coral]

in terms of abusability the sdk gives you nothing if you modify it

[ruby needle]

it allows you to break intendet limits

[cunning anchor]

Modded SDK technically only allows a single thing.

[granite coral]

most sdk modifications are just QoL modification to not waste too much time in unity

[ruby needle]

and you break the TOS by doing so

[dusk tinsel]

boohoo

[next glade]

yea dude lets just dedicate half of the server processing power to scanning through peoples asset bundles, extracting them, counting the polys with code, checking all the particle systems

just to ban some guy 200 polys over the limit

[dusk tinsel]

xd

[ruby needle]

i did say that it is rarely punished right?

you basically said why that is the case...

that does not make it any more allowed

[granite coral]

like, i remember back in april that you needed to modify the sdk to not have it break completely on upload

[ruby needle]

it is and always has been a rule violation

no matter what you think it is.

[next glade]

[e-mail] you can provide a fix here

you need code btw

[granite coral]

luckly it was fixed after that

[next glade]

otherwise they ignore it

[granite coral]

also the ToS about the sdk is not clear

[cunning anchor]

@ruby needle I read the ToS of the SDK

It doesn't state that at all

[dusk tinsel]

first we have the brony talking which idk why he did in the first place now we have a certified normie who follows tos

[cunning anchor]

The SDK ToS doesn't state anything about being modified.

[ruby needle]

vrchat's tos does

[cunning anchor]

It talks about objects.

[granite coral]

on one side they say the sdk is against it, on another place it says you have the permission as long as you don't use the code for projects outside vrchat

[cunning anchor]

Not the code

@ruby needle The VRchat ToS is seperate from the SDK ToS

If it was suppose to follow the VRChat ToS block, it should state so in the block of the SDK

It doesn't.

Ah, I retract it.

Subject to your complete and ongoing compliance with the terms and conditions in this EULA and any additional terms included with the SDK

It does say, so yeash.

You're right, my bad @ruby needle

[vocal shard]

Could someone make an anoucement about all this fake vrchat hacking and cpu frying going around? its spreading like wildfire and its annoying because its just fake.

[ruby needle]

there is a anouncement...

[sullen venture]

there already is

[dusk tinsel]

say hello to the normies xd

that know nothing bout the game

[cunning anchor]

@dusk tinsel And you do ?

[viral void]

I need some help, I'm having issues as soon as I connect my trackers, the vive controllers loses the hand symbol on it and doesn't allow me to click or use it, although I can still see it and move it while I have the headset, but I can't click anything or use it on vrchat, anyone knows how to fix it?

[dusk tinsel]

ye i actually do coming from someone who thought photon was particles LOL

[cunning anchor]

Did you code, host or maintain any game servers @dusk tinsel

[ruby needle]

Photon cannon

[cunning anchor]

If not, then no, you don't know shit.

[vocal shard]

wheres the annoucement again?

[ruby needle]

#announcements

[dusk tinsel]

ideky a brony tryin to talk in the first place already proved yourself stupid enough xd

[cunning anchor]

Stating that a image = brony, shows your incompetence.

[ruby needle]

no insulting pls

[granite coral]

(b) reproduce, modify, and use any sample software provided to you in source code format as part of the SDK in either object code or source code formats solely in connection with your

[cunning anchor]

@ruby needle Telll that to that ass that talks shit