is that i dont speak your
#vrchat-general-2
thorny totem
:D
vocal shard
lol
thorny totem
yeah it's geek stuff :\ don't be impressed
azure wren
tho i like it
tranquil perch
ram is considered volatile memory. It isnt permanant. It does, however, have the benefit of speed
azure wren
so maybe one day i'll find someone or something to teach me
vocal shard
"Booting" is basically the equivalent of "Starting". lol
azure wren
o
thorny totem
yes Turkleton
vocal shard
Well I press the power button, then I must turn on my screen... and the computer already started before the screen even turned on I think lol
vocal shard
Well yeah if I leave it open, I see the Windows startup logo for 2 seconds or something. XD
thorny totem
as said you still have the Optane route if you want the amazing accessings times and keep your datas -< in lemmings terms Turkleton
vocal shard
It's the Solid State Drive (SSD) that allows the reduced load times. "Traditional" hard drives are slower because they must move an arm on some platter to read data. They do so incredibly fast, but on a computer perspective, it's slow. Solid state drives are entirely made of electronic circuitry, so the data moves at basically... electrical speed, instead of mechanical, which is tremendously faster. o3o
azure wren
ooooooh
i seeee
tho i hope there are some tutorials on yt on how to install such things
vocal shard
And as such, SSD are quiet and less prone to damage when dropped.
Well installing one is as easy as installing a regular hard drive. Usually only two cables to connect to it, one is a SATA cable and the other is usually SATA power. Which are the same exact thing used for regular hard drives.
thorny totem
it's not rocket science Gab, actually you can do it in 10mins Gab
vocal shard
X)
azure wren
im supposed to study pshycology no
vocal shard
That's why computer stores exist o3o
vocal shard
Ah it's easy enough thanks to the Internet.
rough pulsar
fun
horrific anxiety while handling $800 components, praying to any available divine being you don't fuck it up
yeah.
fun.
azure wren
ahahahahah xD
vocal shard
@rough pulsar Don't rub your feet on the carpet before handling the GTX 1080 Ti !
lol
rough pulsar
After handling the 1080ti's and the threadripper, I'm surprised I wasn't eligible to be an adrenaline donor with how much spare I had.
azure wren
"lets open this boy*
thorny totem
create a ramdisk ~15Gb (tools are out there use one able to backup the data in a deported File/Drive ) > Symlink and move the cache directories to the said drive, done. if you reboot reinject the backup made earlier, and you're set @azure wren
thorny totem
yep right :)
azure wren
well maybe im a little mech genious inside
only once
it tryed to mess
with pc stuff
vocal shard
@rough pulsar lol I tend to not worry about computer parts, even though they are expensive. I did too many "Let's build a computer from random spare parts all crammed in a plastic box, rubbing on each others" to care. XD
azure wren
actually twice
the first time
i was 9
and tryed to put mods on a cracked minecraft
lmao
i messed up a laptop
i still remember
when i couldnt find a file , i was used to redownload it
rough pulsar
@vocal shard I'm normally like that.
Grab a cpu here, a ram stick there, toss a graphics card in. All while sitting on some nice fuzzy carpet wearing wool socks in winter.
vocal shard
And drinking orange juice. And spilling a little bit on some parts. "Just rub it with a towel and let it dry, it will be fiiiiine"
lol
rough pulsar
nah, orange juice is lethal
super lethal
it can kill a Nokia 3310 levels of lethal
thorny totem
btw doing that you'll even save some SSD lifetime :P, Vrchat is quite hmmm how to say that quite, ANgUery on the write rewrite side :)
vocal shard
"Oh, I don't have thermal paste anymore... I have this automobile thermal grease tho... 🤔 "
azure wren
lmao
rough pulsar
"No heatsink? I'll just use this bowl of salad, it's nice and cold."
vocal shard
Especially if it's made of copper ! 😄
azure wren
"Oh, i don't have thermal paste anymore... I have those carpentry tools tho... 👏🏻 "
vocal shard
Sandwich a carpenter tool between CPU and fan
vocal shard
"That will conduct heat nicely"
vocal shard
"Where's that &$&/$ CPU fan... ah whatever, it's a AMD, it can run without fan. Riiiiight ? 🙃 "
proceed to bake eggs on it
rough pulsar
No word of a lie, I've always wanted to get an old CPU and cook a small slice of bacon on it
Just because I can
vocal shard
Actually, that... could be done. Maybe a nice flat heatsink top. But the CPU might reach thermal limit and shutdown
azure wren
you can smell some good beacon
it would still be hot for a bit
maybe keep it in the oven 👌🏻
thorny totem
I'll save you that XD Gallium https://youtu.be/7uBNCN6v_gk?t=46
thorny totem
:D
rough pulsar
@thorny totem If I ever get some old hardware to do it on, I'll livestream it.
vocal shard
I... do have a Pentium 4 PC hanging around... but it's precious. DOS/Windows 98 machine.
lol
thorny totem
was it yet thermal protected?
vocal shard
I remember my dad's mobile Pentium 4 laptop shutting down went overheating. So maybe ?
azure wren
now i wanna really
try to cook beacon
on my cpu
why buying a kitchen
if you got cpus from the 90s
thorny totem
yes i think it was, but in the vid it's a Intel Celeron , so i don't know ^^@vocal shard
vocal shard
Celeron are cheaper so... maybe they didn't had that "feature" X)
thorny totem
maybe yes =)
rough pulsar
Cooking with Gallium
"Today we'll be doing a nice and simple fried chicken with onions and red peppers.
First off, you'll want to fire up the old P4 CPU and get it to a nice stable 80ºc
You might need to overclock it a little bit if you like your chicken a little on the crispy side.
Next we'll get the onions and peppers and slice them up…"
thorny totem
ahahahah i'll watch it for sure
vocal shard
That would be gold. lol
thorny totem
Le cuisine du chef by Gallium
rough pulsar
Next week we'll be cooking up a nice salmon stir fry. For extra flavour you'll want to get hold of an AMD Athlon…
thorny totem
:D
vocal shard
Don't forget "Cleaning with our friend, the Dustbuster FX 5800 !". : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qspdnAYiiug
rough pulsar
And for when you just want to nuke it, cook it on a PowerPC 970GX
…which I might actually have one of
thorny totem
ok waiting for the stream NOW :D
rough pulsar
Legit used to keep a bowl of noodles warm on my G3 iBook it ran so hot
vocal shard
Heat seems to have been a problem for Apple for many years lol
thorny totem
why would you care about efficiency, you can pay for the pretty stuff, you can pay for the power inefficiency :)
thorny totem
good luck with your build
vocal shard
"Pretty stuff". Latest Mac Pro looks like some sort of fancy trash can. XD
thorny totem
cya
vocal shard
Ni ni o/
rough pulsar
Also, not even joking about doing a stream with cooking on old CPUs.
Gonna talk to some people on monday about old PC parts for doing it.
vocal shard
If you can get your hands on a nice plate of copper and sanitize it, that would make a good cooking surface maybe ? lol
Cause gold is a little expensive. lol
vocal shard
Tiny CPU sized pan lol
thorny totem
bring a tiny guinea pig to test the food after the cooking, and you get a Youtube/twitch viral video success
rough pulsar
The only person I know with guinea pigs I respect too much to feed them CPUfood.
vocal shard
CPUfood lol
thorny totem
rahhh come on :D
rough pulsar
I also don't think she'd let me. :V
thorny totem
i just gave you the 1Million view success, $3000 just like that :O
rough pulsar
Get better internet?
Although if it's a very small world (less than 25mb) and it's taking more than a minute or two something's not right.
thorny totem
you need a decent internet connexion and a fast drive if it's already cached @strong wasp
strong wasp
It is a vocaloid with song
@thorny totem i have a good connexion, i live in France, but in vrchat, it's very slow
strong wasp
50 mo/s
rough pulsar
Location (for downloads) shouldn't matter much, since vrchat uses AWS for storage.
vocal shard
50 Mo/s is 400 Mbps. Plenty enough imo. lol
thorny totem
yes but i'm not sure he is using the good metrics though
some think 50Mbps = 50Mo/s...
vocal shard
Mo is a measure used often in French countries. The "o" is "Octet". There are 8 bytes in one octet. So you multiple by 8 I think.
thorny totem
500Mbps would be 62MB/s
thorny totem
yes if only =D
thorny totem
yes Svels
vocal shard
"The octet is a unit of digital information in computing and telecommunications that consists of eight bits. The term is often used when the term byte might be ambiguous, as the byte has historically been used for storage units of a variety of sizes. "
thorny totem
Lol and with all that we've lost him
vocal shard
Our storage products are often labeled in Mo and Go here. In fact, my Windows 10 install shows drive and file size in Go and Mo. lol
same
but i'm also in a country where they use french so kinda normal for me
Yup. lol
inb4 someone goes "Oh oh oh baguette omelette du fromage" again. lol
Croissant.
Chocolatine.
thorny totem
lol
vocal shard
Always fun to make English people attempt to pronounce stuff like "Écureuil" and "serrurerie". lol
ooohhhhh
i need to do that to my friends
thanks for the idea
X)
serrurerie is a awful word tho
also when you want to explain some french stuff to people
"seconde" is a fucking nightmare and dumb word to explain
i fucking hate that word
And in the opposite, try to make me pronounce "throughout" and "Thorough" lol
i personally can't say those words
i have a lot of trouble witt the "th" sound in general in english
thorny totem
seconde?
thorny totem
why?
vocal shard
in french
because the "c" is pronounced in a specific way in french when you have an "o" after it
Seconde can be multiple things. A second, or the 2nd place of something (seconde place), etc. lol
but for some fucking reason
you pronounce it like "g"
but you write it with "c"
yup lol
for no fucking reason
french is already hard to learn with all the rules
and then you have some bullshit words like "seconde"
XD
that say "fuck you" to rules without any other logic behind it
Also, "Hibou". That takes a x on plural form. >.<
thorny totem
it's seems to have something to do with history and how the world changed, THANKS you google ;) the correct word was "segond" first than changed
thorny totem
:)
vocal shard
Why couldn't they just leave it like "Segonde." XD
thorny totem
à cause de l'unification de l'orthographe et de la grammaire :)
vocal shard
@vocal shard word that finish with "ou" take an "s" at the end
except for these : Hibou, caillou, chou, bijou, genou, joujou, pou
they take an x
because fuck you that's why
Yup. XD
thorny totem
:D
vocal shard
I would like to hear someone actually pronouncing "des hiboux" wrong. Like English - "hi bowx" or something like that
yeah it's a weird word
but i like it
it's smooth to say
thorny totem
time for me to leave this place :P, going from how can i speed up my internet in Octect to how to speak baguette with a g to CPU cooking, my brain can't handle it anymore :D
have a nice one guys =)
vocal shard
Later o/
thorny totem
nah i have to go ;)
thorny totem
a bientôt :)
strong wasp
@vocal shard the most awfull word for english is "connétable" "couardise" or "concupiscence"
Who speak french here?
:3
floral aspen
if you're looking for a model maker VRC Traders is the place to look
vocal shard
Thanks
@strong wasp wait, do i have as a friend in vrc ?
do yu have an extra "i" at the end of your name ?
🇷🇺
strong wasp
I can give you my KGB membership card @inner cape 
inner cape
Svel stole my maid pill 
You could've just asked for the server 
@strong wasp That is not sufficent, unless you are a slav by blood, you need to be verified by others slavs and get a permit
strong wasp
I am not a slav by blood, but my mind and my heart are slaves @inner cape
cobalt geode
MMD Dance world isn't there anymore and that makes me sad, what happened to that world? I made it my home, it was perfect for hangout and test rigs and stuff
inner cape
Slaves 
@cobalt geode Prolly being updated. If the creator updates the world, it goes private again.
cobalt geode
it's been gone for nearly a month now
I miss it dearly, you could dance with your friends and everything, it was awesome
umbral reef
@strong wasp Just annex a part of a country and then just claim that it was original yours then you can become a proper slav 
cobalt geode
probably, I hope update is worth the wait
inner cape
dense ivy
Here I am, minding my own life, and then I hear from one of my friends... that they are getting VRC Married for like the sixth time...
While I can't find my own gay guy... XD ;_; #FirstWorldProblems
umbral reef
I dont think you should be jealous on someone who marries for the 6th time...
brisk zenith
Is this like a serious thing?
dense ivy
I'm not jealous about marrying someone for the sixth time (they are also drunk), I'm just jealous that there's so many people avaliable. 🤔
tacit plank
I guess the progression is Friend -> Close friend -> Girl/Boy-friend
umbral reef
Gotta just claim someone
tacit plank
Not that I have any experience past step 1
dense ivy
True... wait... lmao. "Claim".
umbral reef
Yea just like "Thats mine" and grab him or her
Ezpz always works within VRC
Atleast that is what they told me
dense ivy
🤔 Gotta try that sometime.
umbral reef
Pretty sure its how @vocal shard Got his past harem
vocal shard
?
main marlin
alright im completely new to this game; can anyone tell me how I get into a world
umbral reef
That you just claimed your waifu's adverto
~
And well you had to compromise to get ghost but eh
vocal shard
Oh, nah. I've always interacted with them before I claim them.
umbral reef
Ow 👀
vocal shard
Either on chat or in VRC.
main marlin
anyone plz 😦
umbral reef
You have to start the game up first- Log in with an (guest) Steam account or an Vrchat account you made on the website
And then complete the introduction tutorial
vocal shard
If you're in desktop mode, press "esc", click on worlds, click a world that you'd like to join, then click on join instance.
steel ingot
@sleek bone ah would u tell me the name of the world? Thank you
lucid hamlet
Where would i go to submit/look at suggestions?
stray kayak
does it works to upload skins after a long time with a steam account on vrchat ??
vocal shard
no
stray kayak
okai !
young ingot
does anyone know if it is possible to use an Xbox 360 controller or a vr box controller with vrchat? and if so how could I do that? im a poor boi
vocal shard
Xbox controller does work fine (used it with my dk2). I don't know about a vrbox controller though. With the xbox controller, you can also rotate items that you're holding.
rigid heath
static rampart
What are these things called? https://imgur.com/a/0ouEN4r
you know those blue rabbits that say dududu sometimes
gusty adder
makes commission thread offering to do some model stuff for free for people
“threads in this section require moderator approval before being shown publicly, current status: pending”
54 hours later
“pending”
.-.
static rampart
hmm, what a coincidence
gusty adder
not sure if the forum is dead or I’m just unlucky
lucid hamlet
@vocal shard Danke by the way
inner cape
Nice manners back then
gusty adder
thanks?
inner cape
Got yourself banned
gusty adder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
static rampart
tbh I have never seen anyone do a free comission
gusty adder
I deserved it
static rampart
oh yeah, come on spill the details lmao
gusty adder
I’m not doing a free commission in the sense of a full custom whatever
inner cape
Simple export without issue fixing is what he does
gusty adder
I was just offering stuff like importing MMD model into VRChat with eye and mouth movement, which is basically effortless
I’m lazy
gusty adder
because what I just said doesn’t take that much effort
I said I was lazy, as in that’s why I’m not doing stuff like creating custom shaders for people
or animations
.-.
Also college now
Doing something basically effortless isn’t an issue for me
inner cape
You'll get sick of it if you actually start it
south mist
So i imported a model of joseph joestar but he has shapekeys activating some of his attire (namely his hat and hermit purple) how do i get these to show in unity? I set it to import blend shapes but i don't know how to activate them
inner cape
@south mist Find the body mesh, usually can be seen when you expand the avatar in hierarchy. Body should have a "mesh renderer" component on the right, under "inspector" . There must be "shape keys" or something like that drop down menu on it
Blend shapes maybe
Dont remember the exact name
gusty adder
yeah blend shapes
vocal shard
But once you start a simple commission... They want it a bit more complex... Then a bit more.. then a bit more... To the point where you're doing free commissions with animation cycles and world particles..... Lol then you say enough is enough and they complain..... And say YOU PROMISED JAM.... Uh... I mean... Hypothetically.. that could happen...
gusty adder
just make an animation with it modifying shape key values and you’re set to go
Hmm, probably not
In the shop outline thing and my original plan
It’s gonna be pretty clearly just import and eye/mouth movement
if they ask for more, that’s not my issue
gusty adder
Pan?
gusty adder
Alright
inner cape
south mist
I love it how when i start to type, tons of people are typing but when i post everybody just suddenly stops talking
inner cape
Mfw I just advertised an advertiser
Wdym, after you posted we normally continued to talk? 
Nooow the chat died though
vocal shard
Ded
gusty adder
Hm, a random thought just popped up in my head
I know at least one company made eyetrackers for a VR headset
does VRChat have compatibility with that?
inner cape
Nope
gusty adder
rip
inner cape
Also, which headset is that?
gusty adder
Don’t remember the name
I just remember seeing it in searches and recommendation once
Not out yet iirc or still really new
And something like 1000-1100 in cost
vocal shard
I know pimax had a concept
vocal shard
I thought it was a seperate company that made the eye tracker. Because I've seen demos where they use it in the vive too. But there are plans for future headsets to have it built in
inner cape
Just put vive trackers in your eyeballs
gusty adder
gg
vocal shard
Comfy
gusty adder
just replace your head with an android head with VR built in, duh
south mist
ok i figured it out
gusty adder
I still remember that news about the Japanese VR sex device festival thing being canceled because more people showed up than they expected :v
vocal shard
But... They're being an individual... They didn't follow the whole format....
inner cape
Triggers me
vocal shard
:/
vocal shard
Oh goodness fk
inner cape
I told you
gusty adder
Oh right the Japanese parallel to Alexa except with a holographic projection of a girl inside the cylinder
pretending you have a GF for something like 2600 USD
lel
inner cape
Better than none 
vocal shard
It's actually more creeping than a vr waifu. "I keep a tiny girl inside a jar! (Don't worry, she's not real)"
gusty adder
Ah right that VR steam game
VR kanojo or whatever it was called
lmao
the future guys
inner cape
They date a scripted bot, fine to me
vocal shard
Different things that are odd to some are normal to others.... Take... Being a dude with a girl avatar in vr....
vocal shard
Yeah, i have a girl avatar
inner cape
James the girl 
young ingot
does anyone know some cheap controllers for vr chat?
vocal shard
That's actually why im kinda in the process of changing my online names from jamie to james... I don't really want to be mistaken as much
Mobile vr?
inner cape
Wait, whats the difference?
vocal shard
I do talk
gusty adder
uh
young ingot
@vocal shard yea
inner cape
Jamie is a male name as well, no.. ?
inner cape
Get a job
vocal shard
Yeah, that's what i always thought... But on vrchat i get called out alot
For using jamie
inner cape
Wat
gusty adder
why do you care what randoms think
inner cape
No way
gusty adder
who the heck thinks "jamie" is a female name
vocal shard
Nah, lol. I've gotten. "Hey jamie.."
'Sup dude'
"Oh sh*t you're a guy?!"
'yeah'
"Why are you using a girls name you trap"
Things like that
vocal shard
Lol
gusty adder
almost no one overreacts like that over just a name
gusty adder
unless it's explicitly feminine
vocal shard
I had earlier, but not quite like that
Lol
It's the Internet. Pretend to be whatever you want. lol
Lol, it's more funny to me than anything
indigo fern
wait, werent you the guy who had (wmr) at the end of his name?
gusty adder
wmr?
vocal shard
Windows mixed reality
inner cape
N8 only realised now 
vocal shard
Lol
indigo fern
inner cape
Zarni really cursed you, huh
vocal shard
inner cape
Btw, james
vocal shard
Hmm?
inner cape
Interested in joining a cool group?
vocal shard
Me?... Maybe.. lol
vocal shard
Cool
vocal shard
O.o
inner cape
Execute "Sliding" , N8
vocal shard
Im scared...
indigo fern
Operation "Sliding" commenced
inner cape
Roger that
vocal shard
plain oracle
Is there a way for me to see recent players after being forcefully crashed?
Someone stole my avatar, blacked out my screen, and then crashed me.
vocal shard
You can send a output log if you're looking to report them
fiery moth
My name is Smol Tangerine
What do I strike you as from my pfp/name? Male? Female? A trap?
modern sand
@fiery moth Keep it for #general-media please
fiery moth
My mistake
broken sail
What are the HW requirements for VRC in dektop mode? I want to lure someone in but he thinks his PC is too weak....
lilac swan
Suppose fairly close to the minimum specs on steam store page? The app is free so just downloading and playing wouldn't hurt at all
Well, guess you can play with way worse specs on desktop mode. How well it will run however is another matter
small wing
@broken sail i have a friend who plays it with a 2 core cpu and integrated graphics.
All he needed to do was limit the particle systems and run the unity launcher in Desktop Low
But then again he still can only go into worlds with around 7 people max
just some things to consider.
Was going to ask in here because im super curious, been hearing from friends that VRChat eventually will decide on limiting drawcalls on avatars instead of going so harshly on poly limits. Is this true, because i feel like this could be a really nice thing for people in larger instances where people join and leave a lot?
Granted my one issue when being in larger instances there are too many poorly optimised unatlated avatars people have in the room at a time. I assume this is being discussed?
azure wren
idk what does that mean, but if its good, then i "think" they could consider that
shy nest
"No discussion of piracy / game ripping or links to get such content. This extends to directing people how to get a model of a character from a game."
you even read the rules
or are you naturally this stupid
lucid hamlet
Cant wait till Optimization comes in like multi core useage. Its like a cheesegrater on my eardrums when the cpu starts choking
dawn scroll
@shy nest Yeah I did like a year ago when I joined this discord
shy nest
has read rules
breaks rules
hmmmm 🤔
shy nest
welcome fam
rough pulsar
Don't worry about that part, we're usually pretty happy to answer questions.
Or point you to relevant info. :)
torn rose
i think i figured out avatar making but sadly i cant test it
rough pulsar
Let me guess, the trust system.
torn rose
ya
shy nest
just enjoy the game until you have access my dude
hidden cloud
Rip
rough pulsar
Oops
Yeah, common problem that one too. :\
lucid hamlet
Thats the second forced crash in 10 minutes... Wow this is getting as bad as SL and its griefers
rough pulsar
If you're doing things right, you should manage it in a day or two at most.
shy nest
its an unknown amount but people generally report between 10-40 hours
rough pulsar
Things like exploring multiple worlds with people, getting friend requests and generally doing normal stuff helps.
Things not to do should be pretty obvious, like being obnoxious enough someone mutes, blocks or tries to votekick you. Getting warnings from an instance owner also count against it.
Exactly how all this factors together, nobody but the devs know. Because reasons.
rough pulsar
Find some more? The less people in an instance the easier it is to join the social flow of the place.
rough pulsar
That is also a good point.
rough pulsar
Says me, a person who is often up well past sunrise in vrchat.
torn rose
lol
i dont know if i should be ashamed of the monstrosity i made
its a chibi shrek that can twerk
rough pulsar
Beautiful.
rough pulsar
I'm not entirely sure.
vocal shard
I don't even want to imagine that. Lol
grizzled belfry
I hate crashers dude, I'd be barking up some biches with my Treegang and then I'd get crashed.
azure wren
Then u got someone else to bark up👌
vocal shard
ok so this is my first time playing and im at the hub and everyone is just staring at a blank wall
grizzled belfry
Where can I find my crash reports?
vocal shard
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
vocal shard
how do i turn on mirrors
it turns out they're looking in a mirrror
there is usually a button somewhere to turn it on
i cant find it
true sky
then the world may not have one
vocal shard
its in the hub
ivory folio
the Hub doesn't have a mirror toggle
vocal shard
i'm just seeing a white square
ivory folio
try reinstalling your game first
vocal shard
ok
ivory folio
if that doesn't work, update graphics drivers
vocal shard
A few have been complaining about white mirrors lately
Tupper told someone to try updating graphics driver.... Oh ^
oh i restarted the game and its fixed
Cool
fiery moth
Have you tried unplugging it & plugging it back in yet?
Literally would solve 90% of all trouble shooting questions right off the bat if people actually did that first
floral flaxBOT
There are 5457 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
Most are probably in private worlds
oh heck
i dont have friends
But there should be a bunch in places like the pug or presentation room
Public rooms
strong wasp
ye
tawny wyvern
How do I contact a GM for reporting someone using crash particles? made my entire system crash and my VRHeadset isnt starting up anymore.
Guy named AndrewX40
vocal shard
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
umbral reef
well dnt restart VRC but first get the output log
vocal shard
send that file to moderation@vrchat.com
tawny wyvern
okay thanks
got 2 files
outputlog1 and outputlog
oki reported
can a particle effeect really break your vr?
vocal shard
So.. one of my friends just warned me about some group crashing people, but they said that the crash actually damages your motherboard... Is that even possible.. or just another rumor exaggerating the crashing?
tawny wyvern
what kind of sad soab would do that to others... rediculess.
well it is stressing your compoments, else it wouldnt crash.
tawny wyvern
then why did his effects make my gpu like restart
vocal shard
total bullshit made by some dumb fucks
tawny wyvern
he did a disortion and explosion then everything froze then went black (on both monitors)
vocal shard
The same sort of rumor was spreading a couple months back
tawny wyvern
was in the world with other streamers like VR_Mad who aswell got crashed by theese guys.
not tryin to argue, just wanna know why my gpu had a freakout for someones particle effect. Cause I mean like stuff can overheat, and overheating is due to stress on the cards.
and overheating is known to kill components xD
vocal shard
He haid it was like some vigilante crashing group, targeting crashers and stealers...
vocal shard
Script kiddies
umbral reef
If your cpu went into shut down mode and restarted that means its clearly wokring and doing its job
It could also blow up but this isnt the early PC parts days anymore
tawny wyvern
ye but that cannot be good for the cpu it self
i got an expencive card, not gonna risk my shit breaking xD
just gonna stay to friends only
umbral reef
Also the worse that can happen to a CPU is thermal throttling for it having to work to hard- It can then just freeze and say fck you program or well throttle
tawny wyvern
it shuts down as a safty mechanism right?
umbral reef
It cant? the whole idea behind what happened is to prevent it from breaking or getting any damage
vocal shard
I don't see how a game crash can actually damage the hardware. Isn't thatvthe reason it crashes... To prevent damage?
yes
tawny wyvern
it's nota game crash James
it's not targeting like "VRChat.exe"
it's more trying to overload your system
vocal shard
hardware will shut down to prevent damage du to overheating.
umbral reef
Look at the newest apple laptop
tawny wyvern
but that it's even possible to do so in vrchat is weird.
umbral reef
That thing almost goes up in flames because of the CPU once it has an normal load
tawny wyvern
"Apple"
umbral reef
That thing just lowers the speed of it so it cna keep up and else just shuts down and stops
umbral reef
But tl;dr Modern day products dont just go up in flames or burn down
Only time bad things happen is when for example an BIOS update is running and your dog plugs the power cord or when you disable all prevention stuff manually
tawny wyvern
anyway reported the bastard xD
gonna go see if i can get my vr to start, thank you guys for the help ❤ 😃
umbral reef
Also a reminder- Keep your windows up to date- Update your drivers and make sure to restart your Pc/Laptop fully once ina while
ancient kayak
Is it just me or everyone? My ping went up to 500++ just to load peoples avatars?
vocal shard
@inner cape 
vocal shard
yup
fiery moth
If I wanted to waste $2,000
Or however much the new Apple laptop is
Which I'm sure a different brand laptop of 1/4th the price can out perform it, because Apple
I would just burn it
plain oracle
I wonder if collisions with others could be a feature eventually added.
fiery moth
Apparently it was in pre-release testing
plain oracle
I know the capsule collision workaround is gaining popularity. I hope more do it and it eventually becomes something that can be seen not just locally.
fiery moth
It was mentioned about being worked on for the public in the future but that was like a year ago
plain oracle
I have some super in-depth dynamic bone systems I spent a few hours optimizing to not cause lag.
And they work with the capsule stuff, but I cant see it happen. Only the person doing it can.
vocal shard
salad
near saffron
Yeah wish more stuff wasn’t just local. Like I have togglable fixed joints which fall of sync for other players really quick
vocal shard
Do somebody know that If I buy the extra trackers I get a belt or something to put the tracker on and put it to my body?
Or I need to buy something extra?
median basalt
I don't think any kind of strap is included
vocal shard
So I need to buy strap?
polar jasper
You only get the tracker itself when you buy them. Straps and other accessories needs to be bought separately
vocal shard
Oh, is it expensive? :c
nimble nimbus
Use tape
nimble nimbus
Use string
nimble nimbus
String the trackers around things
vocal shard
Like lowcost straps xd
I get ur idea, but I dont know who Im gonna get like a belt or something
It needs to.be fixed
plain oracle
You do need to buy straps. They're 15 bucks for 2, I think. Or around 14 each? Something like that.
You only need three trackers, thats all that is supported. So three trackers, three straps.
Three base stations for proper 3D tracking
umbral reef
For the vive all you need is 2 Base stations and 3 puck trackers to get full body
wraith stone
Hi oclac
umbral reef
Eyo
wraith stone
How is your health?
umbral reef
Hm? Why ask? But feeling a tab bit sick still so eh
umbral reef
How are you doing?
inner cape
nocturne stream
can someone help me out with the password for this i really cant figure it out
http://seiga.nicovideo.jp/seiga/im6402511
azure wren
password?
grizzled belfry
This game needs Achievements
vocal shard
so I just need to buy htc vive 3 trackers and 3 straps¿
grizzled belfry
"get blocked"
vocal shard
"get girlfriend"
grizzled belfry
This game needs VR it'd make it 100k better.
vocal shard
"get boyfriend"
grizzled belfry
"get a life" (don't play VRChat for 2 hours)
inner cape
Haven't played vrc for a month 
vocal shard
me too
grizzled belfry
Ugandan Knuckles is now endemic, you can only find them in the "The Presentation Room".
azure wren
in the *museum
grizzled belfry
"Find an Ugandan Knuckles" achievement
iron heart
getting a gf and a bf just means they'll play games with you now
boyfriends make good healsluts and partners in crime for shit
or also vrchat buds
vocal shard
healsluts 
iron heart
😄
nocturne stream
yeah so i need some help finding out this password for the model but i think i wsant giving enough info so
https://bowlroll.net/file/125625
the hint original
パスワード「 ○○の真祖 の○部分をひらがなで3字で+静画番号の番号のみ+誕生日を半角数字4字で（計14文字）」
the hint translated
Password "O" part of ○ ○ with Hiragana in three letters + number of stilling number only + birthday with 4 half-width numerals (total of 14 letters)
nocturne stream
?
nocturne stream
nope?
nocturne stream
i think its japanese 
nocturne stream
XD
azure wren
lean wing
i cant read
azure wren
thats what school is for
but hey
why goin to school
if you can learn by reading scripts
what
why ppl publish mmd avatars in jp
i mean
ofc you can do whatever you want
and youre jpnese too
but hey
if you want a popular mmd you gotta put some eng in dat desc girl
safe yacht
They’re not confident with their English.
azure wren
hey
at least
put
PASSWORD: bla bla
im not confident with my eng too
but i can
comunicate
safe yacht
They want to do it well or not at all.
azure wren
i see
safe yacht
They’re also afraid of having to communicate in it, with questions and so on.
azure wren
my type of jp publish would be
dis iz password:jap words
du no talk me
all thanks to google translate ofc
kind folio
any news on udon yet that I've missed?
kind folio
ur a troll pls
azure wren
well idk what udon you talking about
kind folio
I'm incthe vrchat discord after all 
vocal shard
@nocturne stream will ask my japanese friend
azure wren
btw @nocturne stream i could only find that "O" part of °°°
white jay
Excuse me but could I speak to a VRC mod, This is a very very important thing I need to ask. DM please
true sky
if you need to report someone, read #moderation-reports
iron heart
[10:19 AM] Wisp: if you want a popular mmd you gotta put some eng in dat desc girl @wisp@azure wren honestly some of them are very pro-japanese so
they may not want to on purpose
that's why a lot of them are password locking.
azure wren
hmmmm?
true sky
@white jay VRChat staff have DMs disabled
iron heart
also you guys need to stop using discord to talk to mods
they will never listen to you here, it is too crowded
this isn't the place
i know you wanna jump in line ahead of everyone else who wants to talk to them, but you can't
iron heart
yeah ive even seen impossible buddhism riddles for the password
basically you can't figure them out
theyre gonna only give trusted people that password
azure wren
lmao
inner cape
iron heart
still gonna have to email and ticket and all that
azure wren
"sacrifice a newborn on the tokyo's tengu altar, then let the blood drop on the stones and read the 5th letter from the right bottom of the floor"
true sky
@white jay is it immediate or someone threatening to do self harm?
inner cape
inner cape
Literally said that already
iron heart
i dont think they can call the police for people if theyre threatening to do self harm
theyre not gods
yknow
white jay
Ok then does someone at least live in or near London?
true sky
nop
iron heart
well you dont even know that person's address though
you can't call the police like that
honestly alot of this is gonna be like you have to just accept some people are gonna kill themselves and you can't do anything about it
white jay
Righto, thanks all!
true sky
report abuse button exists for a reason for emergencies only
vocal shard
pretty sure that button doesn't do anything anymore
true sky
probably because everyone presses it 
iron heart
even shit like fb and instagram had to update their stuff just to get some self-help in there with a whole location-based thing based on the user + 40 organizations to help them
i doubt this game has anything like that
at least you can worry less cause most people who threaten to do so are just doing it for attention so they likely won't
esp if theyre some pimply teenager who actually has a good life
i got worried about a chick once like this
it turned out she wanted to kill herself cause wrong car color.
cold talon
iron heart
another chick i've talked to who threatened selfharm, she just wanted a dude to be her bf and she thought it was the best way for instant attention, admitted it herself
so idk what the fuck to do about this shit either
modern sand
#general-media pls
inner cape
inner cape
They are openly discussing avatar ripping in their channel here, so be carefull.
safe yacht
Mistell?
inner cape
safe yacht
Okay VRchat staff, now Im angry with you. Do you check the effects on avatars in worlds before you allow them? Do you check worlds in any way? Because I just came across the absolutely bloody worst avatar effects Ive seen as a guy griefed a public map with it.
This model is publicly available on an avatar world.
Ive seen many different worlds with some really disruptive models but this takes the fucking cake.
I’d prefer not mentioning the name of the world so as to avoid perpetuating its use, but I will happily provide it to you so you can deal with it. Cus I bloody well hope you will.
iron heart
@safe yacht you know people get around sdk limits right
safe yacht
I dont even know what it is.
I dont know the process for getting to upload a world with avatars, but I feel it is sincerely lacking and probably doesnt involve any people actually checking them.
inner cape
I would do that job for free if it was possible to apply 
safe yacht
This model in particular warps your entire field of vision, for as long as the user wants to.
The model turns invisible, hides the name and goes around warping every persons FOV on the server. It also has pictures and graphics it can entirely fill your screen with so you cant see anything.
vocal shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6923 users in VRChat currently
umbral reef
@safe yacht As other said report it via moderation@vrchat.com Give the world name and ect
Then they will remove the shit and get the guy punished 🤷
safe yacht
Im pissed I actually have to report an entire world that by all measures shouldnt have been allowed.
umbral reef
they cant moderate everything preemptively
You cant expect them to check out every would compleetly- Test every avatar in it and check all corners + hiden rooms if they are there...
vocal shard
You cant blame the mods on that, you can easily change a avatar in a world without having to re verify by just uploading a new avatar with the same id.
Since it's only the id saved on the pedestal
safe yacht
Ive no idea of hte process.
umbral reef
If facebook cant even make a robot to check there stuff and Youtube cant even prevent users from editing copyrighted stuff ... You cant expect them to allow users to ever upload worlds or fully check them
Then learn it- Educate yourself and then you can change of opinion
safe yacht
Facebook and Google could, but they dont, because theyre idiots.
umbral reef
That is how opinions work- You learn more about a subject- Get better edcated and give an more educated opinion and suggestions
inner cape
Pretty sure they check it technically, the likes of # of drawcalls, meshes, triggers and other scripts
safe yacht
Thats what Im thinking.
umbral reef
They cant-- Trust me-- If they get fines right and left (and lawsuits) they aint happy about it lmao
inner cape
Prior to visual tests
safe yacht
Facebook and Google could easily involve actual people in the moderating process because they’ve unlimited resources. But they dont. But thats another matter.
I was wondering what the process is for this game, if there is one.
vocal shard
Well they could....technically. If they paid enough people to watch every single video on youtube. But that would be a.... insane proposition.
tacit plank
When you upload avatars, I guess VRChat can look at the data inside them. Probably not drawcalls, but polygons is doable
umbral reef
But you cant expect of the staff to check everything within a world and make sure its always fine.
And there cant just be an magical robot made for it (Or who knows- They might have an wizard in there team) but even then it would costs insane amount of recouses while the game is still in early acess so
umbral reef
And no- You have no idea of the scale that YT and FB would need to check ALL video's and ALL photo's uploaded
Even with there 'unlimited' budget that they do not have (Look into it- Not going to explain tax evasion)
tacit plank
They can go through the avatar file and record the numbers, but that's basically it. They can't tell if the avatar is of hitler or not
umbral reef
And no- They check nothing on avatars
safe yacht
If people can just upload anything to anywhere without any screening process, we are truly screwed. So I doubt that that is the case.
inner cape
As I said, they might not check it personally/visually at all
azure wren
why ppl cant just chill without messing with others
tacit plank
YT and FB can check all content no problem, but it would have to be done automatically, so it would be limited.
It could work like reverse image search, to see if images are similar, but there are false positives and vice versa, it will never work 100%
safe yacht
So the process is to let anything in and let the users deal with it? I doubt thats the case.
fast bronze
Aaaaactually
inner cape
If numbers arent crazy, they don't consider it worthy of being checked visually
Thats my assumption
safe yacht
Because theres an influx of models with increasingly distruptive effects going onto public worlds.
umbral reef
Guess it fully depends on who checks the worlds then 🤷
umbral reef
@safe yacht Well most people do not know how to report crash avatars so an bad avatar can run rampant for ages without an report...
And you got the reason- People can legit upload anything they want beside an 'optimization' limit that does nothing to optimize things (and if they edit a single file REALLY everything)
tacit plank
Haceo, they might check avatars, but I believe that it's only after they have gotten reported by multiple users
safe yacht
I imagine if they just had one or two people playing the game every now and then they’d catch on to this shit too.
tacit plank
But personally, I think people should be able to have avatars with too many polygons and effects, as long as they're kept in private worlds or around people who doesn't mind it
safe yacht
Personal avatars is one thing.
Putting this shit on a public world were anyone can take them is another.
umbral reef
Caff they dont get reported then so eh--
tacit plank
True, I just meant that an automated system would also punish avatars that are for private use
fast bronze
Funny enough you say imagine if they had people playing the game to catch that stuff, you can be that person... That's wat moderation reports are for