#vrchat-general-2
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I'd say 1,9 is tall
If you go to the avatar testing world, there a measuring stick
Rooms in vr usually scales to unity chan
You can go to the avatar testing world and use the measuring stic-- that.
Which is 1.55
Ah
5.8
Kk
Well i mean, yes i could go to the avatar testing world
But when I actually make something that is maybe around 157 cm, and i stand next to someone else, it looks like Im taller than that because of how tall everyone else is, i dont know how to describe it. The scales look odd
Body proportions etc
It's just no one uses actual irl scales on avatars, atleast the majority, thats why scales are fuqed
...
Pretty sure most use the default avatar descriptor's value for their avatars.
So most will be around 160
There is another game called secondlife where this is a serious issue (well maybe its not an issue lol, a little overexaggerated) cause everyone there is like over 2 meters and giants, but there you can actually see what your avatars height is, so when I am a normal height and stand next to someone that is over 2 m, i look like a child avatar
Idk. I usually feel about average vrchat height with my character at about 155 cm. But plenty are around 2m

im 120-130 cm in game
If you want to be average height, your avatar descriptor will need to be like 0.9-1.2
But it's recommended to have versions of multiple sizes, for avatars that you use often
Hello
What's up with the newest SDK? Keeps freezing at the upload menu and doesn't move on from there
works fine for me 
I've downloaded it 3 times now LOL
I'm having problems with the thing saying j need to play more kr something
I've had it installed and signed in for 2 days, (SDK) and I have 15 hours in game?
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account by accident because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
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@reef moss downloading it again and again does not change anything 
have you tried to clean the cache and player prefs?
and complete reinstall it?
(remove it, then import it again)
Downloading it again has worked before. But I figured it out for some reason whenever I try and upload it pauses the upload menu. Just a minor inconvenience because all I gotta do it unpause it for it to work
anyone getting issues with vrchat making you log in over and over
like i'll get on
switch worlds a bit
then every few its goes to loading then logs me out
sounds like connection issues
nah its not idk if its the avatar cuz i havent unlocked uploadin yet
the issue is that ive set my height as my real height in the setting 1.83 or was it 1.82 idk but anyway i cant touch the damn floor and im levitating almost on every character
What type of avatars are you using? It's common for most avatars not to be able to touch the floor
The blue and red robot avatars are some of the only ones that can actually touch the ground. Lol
Yeah
Most avatar legs are longer than real human proportions
aah
not beeing able to touch the floor is 90% a proportion issue
So, if it matches your arm length, the legs are usually too long
ok good to know
Setting your IRL height correctly in settings might help a bit too
well it doesnt and that was the weird part
Your avatar decides mostly, the height settings just helps a bit
ill keep that in mind next time i cant pick stuff up
Hey Everyone
Hey. Lol
Hi
Is there anything in the works to allow a single avatar to have different animation sets so users to don't have to upload the same model multiple times?
Could spend the hours into make two animations trigger an single animation
Have 4 animations be live normal
Then swap them off with one animation and swap another 4 in to be live
thats nice
^ what Oclac said. You can in a way, make "layers" of animations, so just normal using one of 4 gestures does something, and have a 5th gesture that you can hold to change what happens when you use the first 4 while holding the 5th with the other controller
So, its not a switch, but a left hand right hand thing
No as both hands share the same 5 animations
Imma make a pic right quick
EIther its the time of night or anything in the Development category is slow to get a response :T
Depending the channel and the question it always takes time
@umbral reef so something like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451924435092373515/469428442451017740/unknown.png
I got everything to my basic level of need but friggin.... Walking makes the avatar jump position. Like animation origin is in a different location
It.... erm.... SHould be, its kinda a prefab, not built from the ground up by me. I cant rig for shit
I posted a gif in #avatars-2-general
Also is audio crackling common when rendering is strained?
If its a prefab and you cant even properly check the things within blender your fairly out of luck when problems show up-
But it honstly does not look humanoid to me...
Try doing one of the animations like wave or die
Any tutorials on how to implement that oclac? I could easily use playmaker, but I don't think thats implemented https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451924435092373515/469429333547548672/unknown.png
i got no idea how that playmaker stuff works
I don't know either, it just works >_<
But have you ever tried making worlds?
There is an way for worlds to load/unload when you pass true a box in a hallway as an example
But from my guess-- Best way to do that for an avatar would be to throw Set A into an hierarchy under a new bone or thing within the avatar and same for B
and have A be turned and have the one switch animation disable A and enable B
Wait i think there is even an vid about it
I've been googling it since you mentioned it was possible, my google~fu is lacking right now
REcalled the world version of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF0_5eYry2M
Cant find the video im thinking off where its done on avatars
@umbral reef The animation plays just fine, though oddly the head always faces forwards
Id still guess that its an bone problem
I have a feeling im going to have to pay out and have someone take the current resources and fix it in that regard
Im in bed still as i got vacation and im lazy as fuck so its hard to help
But how well known are you with unity
Well i got a slightly decorated avatar from another prefab, managed to get a rotating prop to work for a halo and have an audio source fine tuned to be near the head only. But Ive made no games, no worlds, just prefabs
Keep it goin'!
You know how to put bones to the avatar?
Like remove the Toe bones and ect?
Nope, Closest to playing with bones has been in Garry's mod and the PAC3 system Shrug
Now they're chatting in there 
Well im not on my pc so its hard to explain how to do it (mainly because i dont think about the process at all if i ever have to do it)
Inb4 FPaul... "This isn't the right room for chatting"
From where you got the avatar- Isnt there an video explaining stuff
@vocal shard Its VRC related so its more on topic then normal :lul:
Talking about in the intros. Lol

https://yiff.wtf/d7d4ccc3.png This is as close as it gets to getting a video, the video links on the right just show generalized videos
As i expected its from that website
But honst your out of luck then as its not the bone problem i thought of

Hey, i try to do what i can, i can atleast do texture work but modeling, boning, and rigging is out of my league
Its also not smart to use that website- The best thing i cna say over the website is that its pure shit and promotes illegal and bannable things
Id suggest you find an avatar you enjoy from other websites and follow an tutorial
Saying you cant do something as its out of your league as false ;)
Usain bolt also had to learn how to crawl and walk first before he became the best
Or go to a 'avatar bazzar' and go nag a creator for a prepackaged bundle to work from
Thats how i got my first one, rhino prime, to work
Atleast better then the current website you want to use
does anyone know what can cause a vrchat account to become unautourized?
Snyper id suggest you email support@vrchat.com about it
And check ya email, can be something got send to that
@umbral reef If you know thats a bad seed of a website, do you know of any better, thats pretty much the only site that comes up when i google for VRChat avatar repositories
well its my friend and we were just sitting in the presentation room and she crashed and then she couldnt sign in and it said "couldnt sign in-Unauthourized"
there is no other sites because people are sane enough to make shit themselves
Well any other website makes you put in effort to get working products instead of half assed unoptized shit from there
And the effort is often the same

I always forget the other websites as eh- I got my avatar and dont care about having 20 diffrent ones
@vocal shard Ive never seen one you could grab for free, which yes i understand WHY cause you are paying for good shit, but i cant rationalize buying assets for somethign that may never come to fruition cause of my poverty mindset
just get a commission if spending money on unity assets isnt a thing you want to do
Thats why i said earlier that i might need to knuckle down, fight that mind set, and lay some cash down, but if i do that the only other way it can rationalize is fucking go the who-Yeah
That
First just search for models on Deviantart
Plenty of stuff on there-- Not an insane lot as most has been taken down by now but eh
@umbral reef As for your thing, i did try that, but everything there is in .mesh, which has been less than easy to convert to obj
And maybe someone else can chime in with the japanese website for the models as i forget it constantly
bowlroll
That one yea
Oh? Never gone there..
Then the thing had an UV issue that i barely managed to fix when it DID convert, only to find out that the tri count was through the roof at over 30k
I usually stick around mmd mall
MMD art style isnt my thing. Im a furry and i find playing around as a popstar a bit jarring at best
30k... Thats rookie numbers. Lol
damn son you're limiting yourself severely, bowlroll and nicovideo have thousands of models jamie
Better check it out then
generally with better quality than from that site that starts with d and ends with art 
I know im limiting myself Cause 80% of most avatars used on VR chat these days is those MMD avatars
Dart!

Nah dude... It's more
Mmd avatars can also be furries--- I have it seen happen
Neko ears dont count
Ever said it did?
the further away you get from mmd the less support it has
There's a subgenre of vocaloid that's called Furloid.
ive seen plenty of furry mmd models on bowlroll
You'll definitely find furry models there.
https://yiff.wtf/e4824a47.png IF only i could read Kanji
Google website translate
I recommend looking through mmd models first because branching to xps/smd/tmc is bunch more work, generally being more difficult in that order 
Is uploading down right now?
Cat fixes a lot of those problems though Jay
im meaning more work like shape keys which come very rarely on those model types
I try to upload my avatar it just says "future proofing" and then after it finishes windows makes a noise and nothing happens.
disable future proofing
^
Well trying to search the english word Furloid ends up bricking google translating
How do i do that?
Literally the first time i am doing this
and i have spent 5 hours trying to get this to work while using tuppers video
uhh
I think in the vrsdk tab there is a settings? think you disable it there? (feel free to correct me peeps)
So... How old is your vrchat account?...
SO i disabled it
And i just get that windows bling noise
I dont get the new avatar screen or anything
quick question, what version of unity are you using
5.6.3p1
@vocal shard You asking me?
No, garethjason
K fine
Just fir uploading. Didn't know if it would be an issue for a new account
try reimporting the sdk
I have done that so many times.
o
I could redo the whole thing for a 5th time
My first problem was getting the visemes working
Well actually i take that back. my first ever problem was the fact I didnt have the right version of unity. I misread 5.6.3p1 as 5.3.6p1
there might be upload issues... somewhere... somehow.
It took a 25mb world about 5 minutes or so to upload last night for me, and a friend noticed that world uploads weren't going as fast as usual.
should i restart unity and try again?
can't hurt to try
okay doing that now
Now i cant upload it. The sdk drop down menu just says clear cache or whatever
And the visemes are broken again
reimporting vrchat sdk now
I'm about to go insane
Okay... I got a bunch of bits and bobs from Bowlroll
Bitmaps, PNGs.... PmX and Spa?
Export everything to a folder, and use cats plugin to import the pmx into blender. It will handle the textures and that stuff
Lol
hey guys can somebody help me in my world i put a VRC_Syncvideoplayer the thing is when i go in vr chat in my world the youtube videos starts for me at 3 minutes and for other people way longer
How does one add their own image for their avatar?
Drag your own image into your assets, make a new plane in Unity, and then drag the image on top of that plane and place it in front of the camera
Quads are technically better than planes but either one works
How long's a piece of string?
Basically, when they can have it work without bugging out other much more important things. Like audio.
When that is, well.

Don't play if you are tired 
i didnt play it for about 2 mounth
Can’t wait for chairs to return tho. Everyone in titans, cars and other stuff, made a lot of the larger maps more fun
A friend used them with custom animators so people would dance when they sat. It was a good time
Ha, I couldn’t figure that out properly so my seats just T posted the desktopers when they sat in em
Has anyone seen a ghost in the shell avatar?
That would be meta
Face of the laughing man on every avatar face
why cant i add custom avatars?
are you getting errors? do you have permissions to upload?
i dont think i have perms but how do i get them?
»THE PASTA«
“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”
“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.”
“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”
“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
okay thanks
Yeah, the seats with custom anims were some good times
Hey guys, I'm having a problem of having no music in Void Club
Does any of you know how to fix it?
The musi
Hey i need help i download skin everything ok but i finish i click on build and publish it writes me i need to play a lot and i plowed my soul today and yesterday
Hey i need help i download skin everything ok but i finish i click on build and publish it writes me i need to play a lot and i plowed my soul today and yesterday
Gotta play the game in order to gain uploading permissions.
I plowed day and night
You need to play the game- Be social- Make friends and visit worlds
not just stay online and 'plowed'
did you actually play, or did you just stand around afk?
he plowed
specifically he plowed his soul
I do not have a microphone but I talk to them with a marker
how do i get accesories
That counts as being social-- Aslong as you get people to add you as friend or accept you its fine
Also- As no one said it here you are playing on the VRC account and not Steam account?
VRCHAT account
I've made the first avatar specifically tuned to attrack script kiddies :D, flashy animated shaders, took me 6 months of research to find the perfect proportions and formula XD, the first tests are promising, 7 caught using scripts in less than 10mins ;) . Word of advice if you see someone with it, block the guy or he'll do the same to you :) https://pasteboard.co/Hvd7zmW.png (removed)
:)
Makes me wish a friend of mine had perfected his "crash everyone who uses this avatar except me" thing
He already found a way to only make an object appear locally
All he needed was a way to distinguish some sort of hardware ID or user ID
when i see somebody with some flashy avatars i'm always on my guard
Yes this would be a solution, but one could make a more hmm fonctional version with some scripting, but meh we can't :)
most of the time they got some sort of bullshit sutff with them
either hackzz or crash guns
l ol
Same svel
yep the chances are high indeed
Can't stand those people
Don't get what?
I don't get what you don't get
But I'm assuming anyone using a (hacked client?) glows?
I think he will explain
Please do
As he is typing right now
there no voodoo in it @vital badger , just made it attractive for the script kids standard, one with script can't resist but steal it ;)
Lol. Really cool.
Ahhhh
:)
Reminds me of one of those bug zappers. Lol
exactly jamie eheh
They get attracted to the light..
xD
Then ZAP. reported
you got it :)
:D

@thorny totem gib 
you want it?
Me?
i got 230 shaders now
i'll send it to you ;) svels
but you need some hmm solid eyes to stand it, it's kind of hypnotic :O
no worries, i got some bullshit shaders too
ok
Only shaders i have are standard ;P
yep but you will not catch any scriptk with that :P
Svel is a shader hoarder confirmed
Narrows it down real nice
👏
:D
He only talks to us for our shaders ;-;
Feelsbadman
and you got blocked for that. Mr. SmartyPants.
Noice
@indigo fern gib your
so i don't have to talk with you anymore.
XD
upload your collection
@vocal shard don't use it in VR :D
imma put it on spheres and mass spam it in public world because i'm the true Evil.
Chaotic evil
hmmm bad boy
r u gonna upload ur collection of shaders
to add to my 10 gb assets collection
i'm too lazy for that
i made a package for the 20+ screenshake + distortion shaders tho
VR user annihilation pack?
sound like yes :O
Blur n pixelate, true disgust
i have one that'll give you real vertigo in vr even if you have hours/years of flight sims behind you, nop i'll not share that one
Share that one 👀
really ?
neverrrrr ! =)
Gimme gimme

Worth every penny
make an account, get upload privilege, make an avatar to crash people and use hackz, get banned after 2 days
true life of vrchat
Speedrun it
sure :D
Nice
4 hours? that was fast :O
not even the time to come here and ask " why can't i upload?" :\
So will an oculus not recognize more than two touches?
Well
you can add more than two but recognized as advanced object if i'm correct
I’m just thinking out loud, but if it’ll track but the buttons not work, why would I buy vibe trackers @ 100 when I can buy two touches for 100?
Or does it just not work that way
The oculus system can only track a maximum of 3. It's not able to track an additional 3 on top of the controllers like the vive can for full body
Ah
you can use a touch as a tracker for mixed reality (tracked or fix) have not seen that possibility used for tracking in VR yet
^
I’m just now looking into additional trackers as I’m fairly new to the vr world
And couldn’t find an answer on why it wouldn’t work
Your two main options are, Kinect, or buy 3 vive trackers and 2 light houses and use them along with the rift
^
I’ve got a Kinect somewhere, lord only knows where it went to die in storage tho
Lol
You get the 2 lighthouses for the vive always though so
But I couldn’t find a good write up on that part
And with the kinect you dont have 360 tracking then
hmmm beg to differ and that one Oclac, the V2 is quite competent with 360, now with the 3rd party drivers that's another story
The rift tracks from the cameras. So too many devices is hard for the system. The vive tracks from the controllers and headset inside out. So it can track more
I’m not terribly worried about it. But I would do the Kinect one just cause I know I have one somewhere if I can find a good how to on the subject
Isnt V2 hard to get and insanely expensive now though? (Also never knew that V2 could do full turning without breaking)
you can get some for pennies :O, but the power supply is $$
Oh power supply wouldn’t be an issue
Do note however that the technology used with the Vive interferes with one of the two Kinect version I think
That’s what I do on the daily
V2 isn't that expensive. It's the power adapter that costs. There's an easy cheap mod to solder an adapter tho.
for the v2 it's a specific one, it comes with an USB3 interface
Well i was talking about the whole thing but if peeps found out how to mod it aint hard
I can build one from scratch if needed lol
Everyone that isnt a electrical retard should be able to learn how to solder things easy
You have Vive or Oculus ?
$50 a piece on ebay for a v2 without powersupply
@vocal shard the Kinect interferes with the vive tracking, unless a sync Cable is used
Oculus
Hmm... well for starter the V1 (360 Kinect) tracks at 30 frames per second.
That one I have already
yes 60 1080p for the v2 (720p for the IR /depht though)
While the V2 (Xbox One) tracks more often, giving a smoother look
The V2 has additional bones that are tracked too
Given the choice. V2 is much better
Yeah
Also it has a wider tracking fov
Hmm
I might be able to swing that
Got a bunch of old crap I can take to the resell shop and get like $20 for
The it’s not so bad
Just need to supply it 12 V with a mod. The official adapter is a ripoff lol
Or... You could buy a chinese adapter from AliExpress for cheap. Lol. If you trust that
Nah I have all the stuff in front of me right now to make one
Smoke n' fire
And not waste all that shipping time
12v 2.67A on the real one @olive mesa
Don’t let the magic smoke out of the box. Bad things happen
cheapest I could find an adapter on aliexpress was like $70 or $80. Not something I wanna take a chance on
So a 12V 3amp adapter would do just fine.
Oh ya. 3A is plenty
It just takes the amps it needs anyway.

Really, wow. Haha. Definitely cheaper to do it yourself
@vocal shard should be ok yes
As long the voltage is 12V. Don't plug 24V to it ! XD
I’ve got a 12v 75A at the house right now lmao. Think that’s a little overkill for it?
Lol
Beside 12v and random cables aside, anyone know of a good write up/YouTube on getting the Kinect black magic to work? I’m assuming I’ll need some 3rd party software somewhere down the line.
oh i'm wrong, it's $50 kinect v2 + the power supply
I'm no electrical engineer tho. I was told that "If voltage matches, and amp is equal or higher, should be good" lol
Driver4vr i think it's called
Yup, Driver4VR: http://www.driver4vr.com/
you could also try the free one "kinecttovr"
taking notes
gets Kinect "Finally, I can fulfill my dream of dancing like a stripper"
lol strapper you mean?
XD
No lie, some of these people in VrChat, have to be a stripper irl
They are way to good at that otherwise lol
Too bad you didn't know kinect is far from perfect
Yoga helps, at least with flexibility. lol
Low body weight also helps tremendiously.
Starts using VRChat. "Finally I can fulfill my dream of being a woman." Buys additional sensors. "Finally I can fulfill my dream of dancing like a girl." Buys Kinect. "Finally I can be stripper !". VRChat, fulfill your dreams.
lol
Oh I know Kinect isn’t near as good, but if I already had one laying around in storage somewhere I might as well use it
Yeah why not
And has a bonus you will be able to sit on the floor. Like on the actual floor.
lol
That’s the main reason for it honeslty
Honestly*
I know it won’t be able to track fast enough for like full on dancing or anything
Sit in front of a VR campfire, roasting VR marshmallows
What world is that? Rainy cave?
No
It’s stormy cave
Stormy cave you can roast marshmallows lol
Neat lol
I wonder... do physics object react to legs in VRChat ? You could kick stuff lol
good question
anything that would have interacted with your avatar in the first place will also interact with your legs
You need to add colliders beforehand, but can be done. Someone made a video tutorial a few days ago.
Like hair colliders. So you should go around drop kicking people’s heads to see if their hair moves
XD
@toxic barn good luck with colliders in the legs :\ unless you want to fly around:O
I wonder... which type of collider should one use to be able to collide with other people hair ?
people have to specifically set up their avatars to allow other people to interact with them
Oh I didn’t know tth
if you put dyna bone colliders on your hand you won't normally be able to touch other people's avatars
That
Yeah that's the way I setup my avi. Dynamic bone colliders. Sad.
yes...but people get creative only when it come to boobs :O @floral aspen
@thorny totem that sounds about right lol
At the end of the video his hand colliders move objects without holding them. But, I'm not afraid of flying as Kane said.
yes i have one or two avatar with the issue, spawn and get 1000m in the air, fun sometime though
I’d like to see a watered down explanation of how some avatars can climb and swing off stuff
"Weeeeeee !!!" lol
Climbing vertical surfaces is easy enough. Just spam jump while holding forward.
lol
These can climb wherever they feel like it
Playspace mover
If you have full body tracking. You can go anywhere with playspace mover
Do the Superman pose and starts flying around o3o
Ah so that’s something the avatar is programmed with, yes?
It's a plugin for steamvr
O
You hold the menu button, and you can climb around space
some are also using the puppet principle, put your avatar on your hand and move it manually (using your hand)
hmm not sure if i'm clear on that one -_-
I heard of some avatars where on desktop, you can look up, and there's a cube that's local only, or something. And if the grab it. They can fly
could be a solution too, clever one
is anyone having any issues ? my game keeps logging me out mid session
that is typically connection / routing issues
you might wan to give this a try https://support.streamlabs.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004232954-How-to-solve-IPv6-issues
cheers 😃
yeah either that or it just constantly stops responding aswell , first time ive had an issue
Thinking abut it commissioning out an avatar, I know everyone had their own skill and values themselves differently, but what’s on a average the cost of an avatar? Just a basic vr, no crazy animations or effects. Just a dude in a suit. Figured I’d ask here before I get into the avatar commission channel and bail
Amazon still having troubles after Pi days?
Price changes depending on if you want from scratch or just an mmd edit
I've never commissioned so I'm not really sure
It's worth asking
i would say for an avatar from scrath it depend how the artist value his work, like a painting i guess
Yup. I’ll just post it and see what people offer for it
i don't work under $3000 so you know XD
Alrighty, that’s noted then
It really is a per artist thing
cant afford Kane so don’t bother asking
poor people tssss
:D
3000, that seems... a little on the cheap end.
it is !
3D modeling is time consuming and tedious, hence the price I guess.
i heard of prices fromm 100$ to 900$
That's sounds about right
for a model from scratch for vrchat ?
yeah
that's pretty correct
you can ask PolarStar, he is making model from scratch and he accept commissions now
His models have a real nice style
And he's only been doing this stuff for half a year I think, super impressive
yeah, he is pretty good
he want to get his own place so he can have a better internet to stream again
it was really cool to see him working on his models
100 is usually mmd material though 900 sound fair for models made from scratch with low/medium compexity i would say @limpid river
His models look really nice. Sort of a enhanced PS1 style, I'd say
I get what you mean
That means there are people that don't use TDA models. GOOD. lol
They are freaking everywhere.
Not that they look bad, but still...
well the dude who offered 100$ model to my friend seem to have low quality of model
you get what you pay for :)
@vocal shard I know what you mean, at a point all those tda models just blend together
@vocal shard eheh it's Tupper's fault he made a tuto with one :D
Yep, I wish there was less anime in vrchat. But mmds are quick and easy with cats.
I don't have problem with anime, as long there's no like... 12 look-a-like in the same room. XD
Nep nep nepu
I guess it's just so unoriginal on such a creative platform
That my issue
Plus they all look the same after a few months
But hey, to each their own I guess
it'll come i hope, they start with mmds and couple months after they are ready to model their own, if they're really into it. I've seen some nice piece in there, one made by a lead artist working for blizzard
Originality and effort go hand in hand
I like the idea of the tda base, but i use my own skin, eye, ect textures. I don't like the miku head though.. all those look the same
Note: My effort level is like... 5%
Yeah some people use so many different parts, it looks like something relatively unique
I only got into making models from scratch recently, really fun time
Frankenstitch style :D
I didn't put a whole lot of effort into my avatar, but I knew I didn't want to have an anime avatar either, so I just did a video game avatar instead
that's cool too
Alternatively, some games have character editors that you can export to MMD.
weighted like a potato on a stick?
Used to switch between different video game avatars constantly, until I made my own character and learned to model
@thorny totem Rigged like a MMD model. So expect the usual hair shenanigans. lol
that's the best part Zarniwoop and Vrchat is a brilliant plateform for that
@vocal shard I see lol
but seriously today there is no excuses for not making your own, there is some great automated tools out there, everyone can do it
good news is if you don't have time, money can get you one. If you have none of the above oh well :¨P
What’s VRChats policy on grossly offensive language over mic?
I've never seen an issue with cussing in my time
If people run around yelling the N word, amongst other things, or just plain insulting everyone with colorful language, is tat reportable if I record it all?
Are you honestly asking that...?
Yeah, report.
Yeah these guys are a bit much.
Well I figured since we can just mute em all...
But I feel like I WANT these punished because theyre such awful people.
Community Guidelines
Rules that keep you from getting banned
@safe yacht Q. Intolerance
Hate speech, including language, symbols, and actions.
Discrimination towards spiritual beliefs, gender, sexual orientation, sexual identity, disability, and/or any other personally identifying factors.
now i wonder, hmm is trap a sexual orientation or a sexual identity? hmmm
Its 2018
make sense i suppose
risky to answer that :D
Im sure theres more orientations.
i see you coming with your Orange and Lemon :)
hmmm ants too?
Definetly.
can anyone help with unity stuff?
i'm having an issue where the materials are like greyed out and im unable to change them
Anyone happen to know the font used in VRC nameplates
could you share a screenshot? @grand wing
ask in the right channel you will get more help
@gilded vessel Apperently its Dosis Bold
https://imgur.com/a/QMZTyMW @thorny totem
But, I don't know why anyone would use anything other than STOPhttps://fontzone.net/font-details/stop
Stop is superior https://d144mzi0q5mijx.cloudfront.net/img/S/T/STOPA.png
@grand wing it seems to be the shader itself and it's properly selected, the texture is black though, am i missing something?
@thorny totem i cannot alter it in any way. i cant change the shader or its opacity or anything
hmm you did the basic like restarting unity? it can freak out from time to time
nope. ill try it
ok
nope, didn't fix it @thorny totem
try ctrl-D and make a copy of the material and see if it works
@grand wing ?
ok if i don't get an answer in less than 3 mins, i will, hmm, i will start to sing, what i don't know, but beware !
@thorny totem i mean, i can edit them but this model has like 20+ materials
i'm trying to see if there is a way to copy the location of where the material is applied
so it works. what do you mean by location?
@thorny totem the copied materials can be edited however they dont change anything
they dont actually alter the model in anyway
You candrag them onto the model
yes now you have to apply the said duplicated material to your model
material have names, eye etc, just follow the trail
"A new" is not talkative i give you that
@vocal shard yes that's material wars XD laggy edition
I just mean... Some could've been combined..
Anyway, if you select the body mesh in the menu on the left. You should see a list of the materials appear on the right side of the window
My second ever model had 50+ materials, I didn't even realize back then it mattered 
You can match up the names with the new ones and drag and replace
let's not spook him yet :D
Mfw I still keep my mats at about 10, because I use a lot of shaders 
yeah a lot of tutorials back in the day didn't talk about optimization
Same tbh... Lol
wow i feel bad when my model needs 5 materials
I like my eyes to glow. Also they are quite detailed. A full atals always makes them look like blobs
Just glasses and eyes are 3 materials already
You should atlas as much as you can while retaining quality
I'm at 7 mats
- clothes, blush, skin
@halcyon ingot i'm not sure he is at a blender stage yet, seems like a prefab or something
I know very little about blender. So.. trying to map out textures....
meanwhile we've lost him :O
Lol. I atlas all my other models..... Just not my main one ...
Gotta take the time.. to learn
I can hardly imagine if one day they decided to limit the materials number, discord would become a battlefied XD
Honestly though they should limit them
agreed
Tbh i agree
has like 500hrs in vrchat
and is trying to get me to play
ive played maybe 6 hrs in this game?
but its really wierd
damn i cant upload screenshots
but this person sounds really desperate to talk to me
what do
oh and he put 300hrs into VRchat this week apparently
@halcyon ingot but not before a fresh new tutorial on that subject made by Tupper XD (Tupper is hating me right now uhuh)
@vestal schooner ok now youu have a random friend so?
he keeps saying, no dont delete me, play vrchat
block him
id much rather not have this random friend
THEN delete him
i do want to block him but my curiousity has been piqued
and tell him to stop being a crazy Mofo and to get some help
I don't understand this dilemma, just remove him
muh curiousity
dunno, i felt like this was the best place to ask for an opinion
sorry if it wasnt
@vestal schooner rha Human, make your mind already :D delete him or be curious you can't do both :P
aaaaah
Like.. what are the circumstances? What do you know? They seem like just friendly? Creepy? Older younger?
you shall decreepify your Steam then and be curious about something else? what about that? :)
i dont know how to answer that
:\
but seriously, can i paste what he said to me?
Like, I've had people add me, and then try to constantly talk to me, play at the same timez but they usually ended up being kids
i dont even know how he found my steam profile
unless he looked up my profile specifically
his only steam friend is me
:\
Thats odd....
@vestal schooner who owns this keyboard, the one in front of you?
Lmao like anything is private and who doesnt like drama- Just post it in #general-media
Does there exist anything that let's a VR user (Vive) access and use other software from within VRChat?
What I need to do is be able to scroll through my music files, in software like Soundpad, as well as playbsaid tracks without taking off my headaet or alt-tabbing on my desktop.
I already know of OVRdrop, but I'm wondering if there's any alternative, before I buy.
You can use the steam overlay desktop window. But it is laggy. Ovr drop is much better imo, because you can use it while still active in the game rather than stopping for a sec to open the overlay.
Also, with ovrdrop, you can pin specific windows rather than your entire desktop if need be. And you can chose to either have it floating in the world, or attached to your hand.
tfw i was just talking to a guy about final fantasy
and i got kicked out of the world

Maybe the don't like FF
@vocal shard
So, if I'm using Radeon ReLive to record the VRC desktop feed, and I use OVRdrop to attatch the Soundpad window to my off-hand Vive wand, will the Soundpad window end up on top of the VRC feed?
No. The vrc mirror feed wil only show what's in game. If you want the window to show in the recording; record the steamvr mirror feed that shows what your headset sees
When using ReLive, alt-tabbing to Soundpad causes the window to be on top of the VRC feed in the recording, Because it records the entire desktop. That's why I ask.
Oh.. then i don't know what to do. I don't use ReLive. When i record, i record by window, not the desktop
J guess I could try using extended display, with my second screen.
Have ReLive record one screen while my OVRdrop window is on the other display.
anyone else get a purple screen flash when they load up vrchat?
it's leaning to the pinkish purple you see the senior chat mods have
Maybe you need to update your graphics card drivers? That shouldn't happen
Isn't purple in 3D rendering like... the "missing texture" default color ?
In the programs I used it's more pink than purple imo
But I think I seen before people with outdated drivers have similar issue to Nobuo
I sometimes get it for one frame when opening the game up and then it goes away; almost like it tries drawing the scene before its finish loading it?
I wonder if it's like the background of the renderer.
I finally got a new PC and it feels so good
Solid 45 FPS in basically every map, 90 if circumstances allow
Before, I could drop as low as 10 in "lag-free" box
Nice
Good for you 
I've seen a lot of "lag free maps" that are straight up lies 🙃
One had a mirror, untoggleable, pointing toward spawn and covering the whole world
Wow. Lol
Lmao
"Truely a lag free world" seems to get the playercount right but starts with a mirror that's on
"Lag-free box" has zero opportunity for culling and probably doesn't have baked ambient lights either
As long as you stay away from the Pug, things are decent enough
The only true lag free world is a world with no other avatars in it
but that's no fun
worlds are very rarely the source of lag-- most of the UGC-based lag is from dynamic bones (EVIL!), too many materials, and unmerged meshes
But there are some pretty bad worlds out there
Then why does the SDK still have a useless poly limit but no limits on anything you just mentioned 🤔
Worlds can make quite a big difference, realtime lights vs baked for example
Poly limit is not useless! Your GPU can only handle so many, then you've got to leave room for the world's geometry, and THEN you have to leave room for texture memory.
Basically we're talking about a series of bottlenecks. Polycount is pretty far down the line, but it is on the line.
Yeah, but it's definitely lower on the priority list
There needs to be a poly limit, but you yourself have advocated for increasing it to 65k (I Think?), which I agree with
Having a priority list doesn't mean "ignore everything except the first item" 😛
65k is just because that's the max vert count in 5.6.3
I'd say 40k personally
but it isn't up to me! Its up to people much smarter than me.
UGC can be tough to work with.
If they're so smart why can we still upload 100 materials
But not an atlased 25k model
I'm not
yep
Like the IK system and possibly voice
I heard about the new IK system but I'm skeptical of whether it will improve performance
It's not something you can cut corners on easily
SECURITY!
usually avatars that blast music end up crashing people is what I noticed
I agree I do think really 40k -60k is enough to make 99% of models work fine unless you have some crazy giant model. If a model had over 65k you can easily decimate without anything being noticeable.
If only there were some system to rate avatars based on performance...
I think if a new SDK update came out that simultaneously set a 10 material limit and increased the poly limit to at least 40k (I think it should be 65k but whatever)
That would help the performance situation a lot
@median basalt I approve this a million times. lol
The devs keep saying "it's not that easy", but it literally is.
People might bypass it, but the biggest offenders in optimization are also people who aren't savvy enough to bypass it
Like the people with 30 uncombined materials
Imagine: VRChat in constant 90 fps. drools
Yeah
Although the game is just laggy with people regardless of their avatars
All this talk about "it's the users" is getting incredibly tiring. World authors blaming it on avatars, devs blaming it on avatars
Sod off.
The devs don't have an excuse because they set the SDK limits themselves.
World authors can at least blame the game itself after a certain point.
Also if somehow they found a way to lower the max loudness of sound uploads. You know... to prevent people to actually lose some hearing by noise spammers lol
I thought they did limit the volume of avatar sounds
They did.
Yeah, they enforced some audio limits on the SDK side
Recently ? Cause with volume set to a comfortable level to hear people talking, there are still people spamming stuff at the volume of your typical rock concert lol
And also a few egregious ones on the client
As in, your audio source gets disabled if you try to do anything funny with it like muck with the spread or spatialization
Or priority etc
As far as audio. I wish world music/sounds, and avatar sounds were on a seperate slider. So you can mute world music, but avatar sounds can still be heard
That's already a thing
For me it always affect both
Or technically, it's supposed to be a thing. 9 times out of 10, avatar sounds end up on "game" instead though.
Ok
It's some weird logic because they have to support older models too
Not an easy task I'd imagine
True
That one rap thing that say one word at the same with bass that could shake an entire skyscraper... it's still too loud lol
Like... can't hear any other users over it
Sure there's always the block option, but the goal is to prevent blowing up speakers or eardrums lol
What is a good website to find models? I've looked at deviant art but no dice there, bowlroll nothing interests me..
I'm kinda picky lmao
oh sweet
thanks
Lol. We don't recommend that site anymore because they support hacks
I didnt mean to get you in trouble.
Im just looking for avatars
I finally uploaded that one i was working on last night after 5-6 hours
of piddling with it
RIP my account 2018-2018
It's been great talking with all of you. Off to a better world. Goodbye.
oh come on now dude its okay
Lol
You didnt know.
No, dont goooo
I didnt know either
Rip
I'm pretty sure all we would get is just told not to bring it up again which is understandable
Anyway
James do you know any good legit websites to go to for avatars?
Yeah. I mean. You won't get in trouble for using the site. It does have some good avatars. But because they also host hacks, and modfied clients, we can't recommend it
volume limit is on sdk side of things. which we all know what happens when theirs sdk limits.
I make my own from mmd bases... So i don't know any complete ones ready for vrchat
where do you go for mmd bases?
@neon vine Try nicovideo.jp
thanks
Just make sure you're using the avatars on the site with their permission.
oh alright
does anyone know if the piano simulation room has implemented midi input?
i thought it did
Hi
Just asking for opinions
Do you guys think Vr chat could run on a 2017 iMac pro with boot camp?
Not sure if this is a mod bot or a crasher, but this Tupper look alike made everyone but me almost crash in the lobby. The name was pasted over what looks like an invisible shader bubble, and the avatar was playing some loud music too before they left. Thought I'd let you guys know about it.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464643235701194763/469699308162252820/unknown.png
Lol. I wonder if that impersonator only knows about Tupper from the dev update videos.
a
yeah, that person just showed up in the pug i was in. i also saw them a few days ago in another world
@grizzled badger Check #moderation-reports or send an email to moderation@vrchat with your outputlog
]</color> Abandoning request, because: The request timed out.
https://beta-api.vrchat.cloud/api/1/config?organization=vrchat
getting this when trying to go into settings on unity
@vocal shard Go to SDK Settings and switch API to Release
Check your Console and fix errors
^ fixed
Ok so like im poor and i want a mic is this one any good? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA94K3HC5500&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-MI+-+Microphones-_-9SIA94K3HC5500&gclid=CjwKCAjwkMbaBRBAEiwAlH5v_iU8UMcuSIxfbiBwKpDyL-4KIaXsM5Hul575ApJxjefRHbqZmlIQhhoCajAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Well @rigid heath i use my headset mic and its pretty high quality check it out HC2+
Looks good
i just met this random pill doing the bernie
what is that
aaaaaaaaaah, trying to figure out why shaders using scene colors sometimes hides some elements and sometimes doesnt is driving me crazy :/
is there any way of deleting a vrca file from the api?
My friend just joined VRChat. And when i took him to avatar worlds Mirrors are just a blank white wall. Its not even a mirror for him. Do anyone know whats wrong?
isnt that a graphics driver issue
Idk. Thats why im asking here
a friend had that problem once reinstalling vrchat fixed it
It's a bit silly, but I honestly think VRChat is directly responsible for so many people learning to 3d model..
true, Unity very much so, but working on a game usually is a dead end for most people
the level fo work effort involved fizzles out
with VRChat avatar or room, they can put minimal effort and get immediate results, and be encouraged to iterate
but you can also put in a lot of work for awesome results especially with worlds
yeah, I am using the unity mega fantasy pack and making a treehouse right now.. my first build, however when I went to test it I think my account was too new
had api failure calls to world not existing, I was or am still in probate period
using asset packs is not exactly what i ment 
ROFL no im aware
I've not modeled ina few years (really work with Maya better) but I am trying to just get first world working, the assets are purely for more than white floor
😉
if you allready did a while a go then that is no excuse
i NEVER moddeled and started working on a workd exclusively with self modeled geometry and props
(excluding drawings)
I've gotta look at unity and how to draw the mesh
blender 🤔
I can do google sketchup, autocad, maya, 3dmax, but not as familiar with blender 😉 (i know, its free, what gives?!) haha
well any other model program works too 
Rhino was actually pretty good as you could model autocad into 3d prior to 3d integration to autocad
@humble vale those api messages are normal. Go to VRChat SDK -> Settings in unity and see what it says on your permissions there
yeah both were still probationary as of last night
I'll check in a little bit when I get back home
I take it you cannot upload even private environments until that changes?
Yup. You can only test locally
Ahh yeah, I must be doing something wrong, the VRChat becomes unresponsive.
Uhh
Heyo
Im kinda new on vrchat, but im aldy looking for a VR set
Anyone got suggestions?
you have a wide choice, depend of the money you want to invest in, your PC etc
the cheapest -> Lenovo Explorer (good deal money wise) ; the best All round Oculus (Price feature comparaison) ; The best tracking flexibility -> Vive
Uhmm
900?
Canadian $?
I bought it immediately after getting into the EVE Valkyrie Pre-Alpha... now just hang my head in depression.. XD
Im totally new to everything related to VR rn
900€ it's overpriced for a vive, it should be around 500€ by now
that's way overpriced
You should have generally a 9XX or 10XX version video card (if nvidia) at minimum
Haha
Kane, export costs man
Nvm then
Trade wars.
First i gotta buy a better card
Gab, I was able to run on a gtx 750Ti but it is NOT supported
what do you have right now?
Pls
export cost? for EU? @humble vale i don't think so :P
I dont wanna throw shame on my family
They've always been high to acquire Oculus and such in EU compared to US. A few years ago Valk pilots were buying in US and shipping to UK
Got a radeon HD 7660
radeon 7660 is limit don't expect miracles
Ik man
Yeah, 20-40 fps
Lately ive been stuck with almost all games
oof
that's a low/mid tier card from 2013
Upgrade your PC, and get a lenovo Explorer ;) (was on sale at $149 few weeks ago)
Whats that ._.
Lenovo Explorer?





