#vrchat-general-2

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vocal shard
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ye, i'm 24, 13 for me is really a tiny small child

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yeah my friends made me take the bdsm test and wouldnt stop nagging me for the results and then when they got them they teased me about it

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T^T

floral aspen
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13 year olds taking the BDSM test. what has the world come to? lol

vocal shard
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that fucking bdsm test

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idk

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i wanted to know my results to so eh

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i was suprised

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and also this game is 13+ so if you ARE on the clock you shouldnt be here lol

floral aspen
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that doesn't stop some people from giving their shitty kids access to their headset

vocal shard
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that reminds me my friend met a 5 year old on vr yesterday with vr

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he was trying to pick up girls with his cuteness factor

thorny totem
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yes parenting is underrated these days...

floral aspen
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I'd be afraid a 5 year old would break my headset

vocal shard
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lol

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id be scared of them picking up girls with cuteness

floral aspen
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Probably don't have to worry about that. If they're like me they auto block when they hear a squeaker

vocal shard
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tru

thorny totem
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they really should make 2 servers, one specific for underage people, like in rec room

vocal shard
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;-;

inner cape
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Underage people MaidLul

floral aspen
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Because the underage people totally won't lie about their age

thorny totem
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nothing personal ;) , but the amount of stuff going on sometime is limit, but hey that's just me

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Tidus, of course, but if parents fail at parenting, the service is at least legally covered ;)

vocal shard
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tidus is tru just because i dont doesnt mean others wont

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@thorny totem that's not your problem is it ? if they play a game that they arent supposed to play then you can do whatever

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not your business about other people's kid.

inner cape
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Bean them

thorny totem
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Depend @vocal shard

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people malnourished in the other side of the planet is not our problem either right? but still some cares ;)

vocal shard
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im hoping to get my name changed soon so i can get back on vrchat

inner cape
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Sike, it's taken

vocal shard
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wut?

inner cape
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Nothing

thorny totem
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:D

vocal shard
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

inner cape
thorny totem
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let's go back to normal, hmmrrr, how many time should i wait before i'm allowed to upload my avatar? in minutes if possible, thank you.

inner cape
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Gotta ask tupper for that

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Dm him

vocal shard
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@thorny totem around 1800 minutes

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or ping the devs + admins

thorny totem
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@ T_u_p_p_e_r can you confirm please?

inner cape
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Gunter is online once in millenium

floral aspen
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a rare sight indeed

vocal shard
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no idea who gunter is LUL

thorny totem
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dang 1800 minutes ! a lifetime can i pay to have access faster?

floral aspen
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one of the admins

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and in game mods

inner cape
vocal shard
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@floral aspen yeah but more details
Like, 🅱RPill is the final boss of VRC
Tupper is a meme
Ruuubick is the anti-random chat in the general chat
who the hell is gunter ?

inner cape
floral aspen
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Gunter is the host of Gunter's universe, an in game late night talk show where he interviews big names in the VR industry

inner cape
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Gunter is a talent show guy

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Or just event boy

floral aspen
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He's also the main guy organizing the hunt for Mr. Whiskers ARG

vocal shard
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so gunter is Event-Boi now. got it.

inner cape
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Ye

floral aspen
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lol yeah I guess you can boil it down to Event-Boi

inner cape
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Accidently joined one of his events

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It was bloody 4-5 am

thorny totem
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lol accidently

inner cape
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I just joined off a friend and there he is, his mighty beard - Gunter

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Joined right when they were about to leave to a private world

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It was cool tho

thorny totem
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mighty beard is the word indeed, #trimming #feminism :P

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i've seen a replay though, pretty cool events

inner cape
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Standart shader tho

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Glossy clothes

thorny totem
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eheh

floral aspen
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Gunter's event's are generally pretty cool. Helps that he's super chill and an all around cool guy

inner cape
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It was a singing/musical show I attended. I felt useless

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Everyone did something

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"Everyone"

floral aspen
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I know that feel Ghoost. I have 0 singing ability.
Though I can play instruments, I can't exactly do that in VR lol

thorny totem
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lol, step up your game guys, try next time :D

inner cape
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I can't do either

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Atleast I never tried

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Im a nerd god dammit, all I can is avatars n worlds

floral aspen
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I'm a nerd too
Just a nerd who can play music

rapid heath
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Are y'all even using the word right? 🤔

thorny totem
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what is the name of that soft that help the voice to modulate with the music? hmmm yea auto-tune, no more excuses Ghoost

inner cape
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Oh no

thorny totem
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lol

inner cape
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Now I have to attend the next event

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And sing something

thorny totem
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i'll be there !

inner cape
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Sike

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Im away from home

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Wont be there any time soon

thorny totem
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i'll wait :D no rush

inner cape
floral aspen
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auto-tune can't make everything sound good. If you are absolutely terrible even auto-tune won't help you lol

vocal shard
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well rip me

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when will vrchat just show people what others have working on their desktops

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so we can get rid of those "its a dude, i can tell hes using a voice changer"

inner cape
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Some are mutes

vocal shard
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so

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voice changers arent the same as tts

floral aspen
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you want other people to see what programs you have running on your computer?

vocal shard
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no thanks.

thorny totem
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he want a DNA test to certify your gender :D "Hey good news VRchat partenered with 23andMe to give you a new feature..."

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they are all Traps, no need ;) @vocal shard

umbral reef
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Yea fuck that- I aint giving out my DNA to anyone lul

thorny totem
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:D

umbral reef
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Also- A voice change check program wont fix shit
Plenty of poeple like VRtrapman have just insane voice controll

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Takes time to learn but almost everyone can do it

floral aspen
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yeah, some people can pull off a trap avatar without a voice changer. I've had it happen to me twice

median basalt
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I know a guy who can do a perfect trap voice

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My voice probably isn't suitable for such things

umbral reef
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Rokk trust me you can

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You might not sound pink girl with rainbows girly

thorny totem
umbral reef
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Tl;dr
Take vocal classes but for free (youtube) :^)

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And try a lot

thorny totem
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eheh

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youtube amazes me sometime

median basalt
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Like I said, I already tried. I'm not gonna be as convincing. And on top of that, it's not something I want to be able to do, either :P

thorny totem
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yeah you say that now, never ever say never :D

median basalt
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I also don't have a place of my own just yet, so I might get weird looks from family members if I put on voices like that

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Since these walls are thin

floral aspen
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lmao I can just picture your family walking in on you in your headset making weird hand motions while talking in your trap voice

thorny totem
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lol

median basalt
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They don't really have a reason to enter my room, but the walls are still thin and you can clearly hear me speak from anywhere upstairs

vocal shard
south oyster
vocal shard
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but hasnt anyone thought about the people who cant be traps

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also yes @floral aspen vrchat is cpu consuming enough not even alt-ctrl-delete works when its on

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nobody sane would run programs with it on

floral aspen
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It's not that bad if you have a halfway decent machine. I can have Unity, blender, and Chrome open no problem

vocal shard
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unity, chrome, and blender are multithreaded programs

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vrchat isnt

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unless you have a crazy clocking speed or overclock your cpu you cant run vrchat and something else on the same thread

floral aspen
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you were implying having programs open in the background while VRChat running causes it to be unplayable. That's what I meant. I know those programs are multi-threaded

vocal shard
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but it does

median basalt
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I had no issues running VRC on desktop with Unity and Blender in the background

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VR is another story entirely though

vocal shard
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hell, having discord open makes me unable to join maps

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or able to speak

median basalt
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It's pretty light on desktop

floral aspen
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you also don't have the greatest computer Rin

median basalt
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Sounds like you're on Oculus or your PC is a potato like mine

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I feel your pain, don't worry.

floral aspen
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Rin has potato computer

vocal shard
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im just saying why do the traps have to ruin it for actual girls

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not everyone is a trap

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get over it

floral aspen
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lol traps are a big issue I agree

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but it's safer to assume everyone is

vocal shard
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the moment i join a world its "whos this guy"

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"another trap"
"hey up for some rp"

floral aspen
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It's the golden rule of VRChat. Assume everyone is a dude until proven otherwise

vocal shard
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well its a shitty rule

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and i hate the fact it exists

thorny totem
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<- be a robot problem solved

floral aspen
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I do too, but girls are a minority in VRChat and the number of dudes trying to be a trap vastly outnumber you

vocal shard
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id rather have to play for three months to do anything than be assumed a thristy girl-wannabe in every room

floral aspen
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I assume everyone is a dude, but I at least try to give someone the benefit of the doubt if they sound like a girl. I always keep the suspicion at the back of my mind tho

vocal shard
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worse part is that when you tell them you arent using one its just "no shut up, we can tell youre using a voice changer"

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like no fuck you?

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it feels like im being pit at an ultimatium, pretend to be a guy so i can enjoy trapchat or just stop playing

floral aspen
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to be fair voice changers these days can be pretty convincing

ruby needle
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yeee.. no

vocal shard
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thats why we should let others know if theyre using one

ruby needle
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it highly depends on your original voice

vocal shard
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my original voice, depending on others who have heard me sounds like a drunk american teenager

ruby needle
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the biggest factor is how high or low it is

vocal shard
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even tho im hardly a teenager

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or american

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or drunk

ruby needle
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higher original voice can sound really good with a voice changer

floral aspen
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I've been told I sound like a teen even though I'm 25

thorny totem
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Luna, yes you're a trap

ruby needle
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but lower voices are simply crap

vocal shard
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@vocal shard you an actual grill ? like, a real one and not a trap ?

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and how many people blocked you over it @floral aspen

versed hound
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I don't really have anyone to join but I would like to be online...

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Can I join someone???

floral aspen
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yes Rin is a grill
And no one has blocked me because of it Rin

versed hound
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How am I a trap???

vocal shard
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just be online and someone will invite you

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up for some erp ? OMEGALUL

thorny totem
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XD

vocal shard
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only to ask who you are when you join

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no

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i erped once with a dude when he was drunk so he can stop assing off in vrchat

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are people actually doing erp, like for real and not for shit and giggle ?

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and i knew him for almost a year

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sounds so werid for me

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yeah svel

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in other news sex is a thing

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no that's a lie

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yes im a boy

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yeetus

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is your trap fantasy fullfilled now

floral aspen
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Theres a VRChat dating website for crying out loud. ERP is def a thing lol

versed hound
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Did any of those were an answer to me???

vocal shard
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no luna

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im just being mad

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meh, kinda

versed hound
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ok :c

vocal shard
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that traps are becoming more of girls than actual girls

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yep

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it's pretty annoying

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actual girls think its shit

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and have started avoiding public worlds because of it

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at least, me and my small group did

floral aspen
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I avoid public worlds in general

vocal shard
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well those who still went stopped going

versed hound
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My friends know that I am a girl and I don't care what others say cus I should not get mad at someone acting silly...

median basalt
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Learn to talk back to people who assume you're a trap

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Give them shit for it

vocal shard
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i do

median basalt
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I don't mean that in a derogatory way

vocal shard
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they call me an edgy teen and block me

versed hound
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About two times now I met guys who had such female voices that no one could tell the difference...

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Creeps me out...

floral aspen
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Same Luna

vocal shard
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"youre a girl no wonder youre so moody"

median basalt
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But the easiest way to shut those people down is to leave them stunned

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If they block you then that's a win-win I'd say

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Since they're not people you would want to interact with

versed hound
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Rin, I got that many times...

median basalt
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I know that's easy to say

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But still

vocal shard
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still isnt getting blocked a strike on the trust system

versed hound
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Alnogside with: "Are you a girl??? Yeah, why??? Cus you talk a lot..."

vocal shard
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im not getting my privilages revoked over some stupid pervs

median basalt
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Nobody knows if getting blocked hurts your trust score

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And I doubt it'll drop it so low that you won't be able to upload avatars

vocal shard
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hey why dont all girls stop playing vrchat

median basalt
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So far, I haven't actually seen anyone get their privileges revoked unless they were banned

versed hound
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I can't really talk back to mean people cus I have so many problems crashing on me that I am happy if I dont sit in the corner crying, talking back is a new and high level for me...

vocal shard
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boys can enjoy their girboys

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second life wait for me

floral aspen
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It's probably not just getting blocked that hurts your trust score, but how much you get blocked within a certain period of time

vocal shard
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which is bad when 12 people in a world slam blocks on you

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ie. a trap and his posse

floral aspen
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and pls no, several of my friends are girls
I quite like hanging out with them

versed hound
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But this stupid software literally keeps me alive...

vocal shard
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same

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but what can we do

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we dont exist according to 90% of vrchat users

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😂

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@vocal shard if you want to, you can add me, i'm usually with a really chill group of people and we talk about all sort of things
if you still wanna meet new people without going to public of course

floral aspen
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I know you exist, but you're like unicorns amongst a sea of dudes and traps

thorny totem
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don't fall for it she's a trap :O

languid beacon
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Anyone here play without rl friends or even internet friends? I just find it so hard to get into alone

median basalt
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I play without friends sometimes

languid beacon
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I want to love this thing

median basalt
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But I've met so many people that there's almost always someone I can join

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I've hung out in public japan shrine instances but I don't really speak Korean

vocal shard
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you cant want to love vrchat

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trap or not, if somebody want to meet new people without getting shit for it they can jsut join on me, i'm usually just running around doing stupid small animation stuff

floral aspen
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I started without any irl friends or internet friends. I made new ones in game

vocal shard
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if youre a guy just download a voice changer software

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boom about 15 people on their knees for you

languid beacon
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Not interested

versed hound
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I mean literally... I have a perma illness so I am always home alone and I leave my flat approx every ten days so without a reason I would be dead now... The reason that "keeps me going" is that maybe some of my friends would like me around, play music for them etc... And if I would lose that... I would no longer be able to withstand the pressure real problems put on me...

vocal shard
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thats sad.

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and we're sad

floral aspen
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oof, that's rough

vocal shard
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that got depressing real fucking fast

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but what can we do

median basalt
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Voice changers are always super easy to spot

floral aspen
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that went from 100 to 0 real quick

median basalt
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I can't hear people with voice changers very well either

vocal shard
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i have a cheap gaming headset

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mic is literally braindead

median basalt
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I usually have to ask them to turn it off if they want to speak with me. I just cannot hear people who use voice changers

languid beacon
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Yeah I recently got removed and blocked from my core group of friends because of breakup and they were all loyal to her

vocal shard
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sucks man

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good riddance

versed hound
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I am sorry...

rough pulsar
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I love how 90% of voice changers make it so you have to use 300% extra brain power just to make out the words they're saying.

versed hound
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Didn't mean to make you sad...

vocal shard
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they werent decent friends anyway

languid beacon
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No they weren’t

vocal shard
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its ok luna

floral aspen
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yeah don't feel bad Luna

languid beacon
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It they were the only ones lol

vocal shard
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everyone needs to vent from time to time

versed hound
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Rin, are you a girl???

floral aspen
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yes Rin is a real Grill

vocal shard
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of course

versed hound
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doubt

floral aspen
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oof

vocal shard
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rin is a grill that dislike fake grills

versed hound
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Grills have no hands so they cant type...

vocal shard
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what was i trying to say for more than 15 minutes

versed hound
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They hold coal...

vocal shard
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i swear if i see a trap irl i might go full reee on them

floral aspen
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on the internet no one knows you're a grill

vocal shard
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just waiting for hand colliders to beat the fuck out of them in vrchat

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or a dog.

versed hound
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If I see a trap than I fot teleported to the us...

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*got

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Sorry for typos I am quite shaking...

vocal shard
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its ok

languid beacon
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Voice changers are always terrible terrible because you only hear the bad ones
. If they are good, you never hear them

vocal shard
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it happens to me too when i get mad

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just take a deep breath

versed hound
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A lot of people hate me and are mean to me cus of the way I communicate which makes me sad...

vocal shard
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you use TTS?

versed hound
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I am not mad...

vocal shard
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text to speak?

thorny totem
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@languid beacon i've tweaked mine to sound like jarvis

versed hound
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I might aswell headbutt my desk from anxiety...

vocal shard
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i just meant it happens here too, not that you get mad

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oh noes

versed hound
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*speach

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And yeah I have to use that...

vocal shard
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anxiety is a tough one

median basalt
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A lot of voice changers are too heavily applied and will sound worse

vocal shard
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its ok

median basalt
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You should only be using voice changers as very subtle changes, to push the last centimeter

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Not to carry your voice altogether

versed hound
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Like the ship girl???

vocal shard
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i dont use voice changers they are a pain

median basalt
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There are barely any good free voice changers out there, anyway

near saffron
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Yeah a few of my friends use em and I struggle to understand them a lot

rough pulsar
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@versed hound Do you have VR? (sudden question, I know)

floral aspen
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Shadow is that you?

median basalt
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Voxal is spyware

languid beacon
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A flamboyant gay dude doing a girl voice sounds a million times more convincing than a voice changer lol

median basalt
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Yeah, with a bit of training it's easier to do a trap voice than to install software

versed hound
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No, I am poor and I wouldn't use it anyways probably...

vocal shard
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well voice changer is the most known charge for actual girls

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like "hackers can melt your gpu"

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for script kiddies

versed hound
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Please answer meeeee... @thorny totem

rough pulsar
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Ah damn. I ask because I know of a few people where using social VR (like vrchat) has caused a slight reduction in their social anxiety in some situations.

thorny totem
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@versed hound what did i do :O

modest halo
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i’d rather write than use a voice changer

versed hound
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The only thing I want motion for is to tilt my head...

median basalt
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Yeah, VRC helped me with my social anxiety too

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Even on desktop

vocal shard
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get a WMR then

rough pulsar
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VR keeps my depression out of the way.

versed hound
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Luna Starlight - Today at 19:52
Like the ship girl???

languid beacon
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@rough pulsar using stuff like vrchat helped me overcome social anxiety irl

floral aspen
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Same. I don't get out much so VRC has given me lots of practice with talking to people

vocal shard
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it isnt supposed to be as heavy on budget as a vive or oculus

languid beacon
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Not vrchat specifically since this is new to me

median basalt
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I think WMR vs Oculus isn't much of a difference

floral aspen
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yeah if you're on a budget then WMR is the way to go

median basalt
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In price

vocal shard
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vrc is actually helping me to improve my english since i never got the occasion to talk in english

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i never get out and dont want to get out

median basalt
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I would recommend an Oculus instead, unless your CPU is struggling to keep up

vocal shard
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vrchat has become like a home to me

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but these fucking traps

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are ruining it

median basalt
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It's not the fault of the traps

rough pulsar
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Depending on where you are the Rift is practically the same price and is better than the WMR systems

median basalt
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Yep

vocal shard
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be a reverse trap.

median basalt
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I got the Rift and I'm super happy with it

versed hound
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Dear @rough pulsar, due to what things happened to me Irl I will always fear humans, especially males...

vocal shard
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oh yeah?

floral aspen
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If you get the high end WMR then there isn't much difference. But you can get WMR for like $200 I think depending on which headset you get

vocal shard
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who else would i get branded as?

median basalt
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WMR would cost me only 30 euros less for a substantially inferior experience

vocal shard
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im a trap in vrchat even tho im not a guy

median basalt
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@vocal shard when you're being mistaken for X, do not blame X group. Blame the people who mistake you for them.

versed hound
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What is the oculus go???

languid beacon
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I highly recommend to rift, especially due to the hand gestures seemingly being custom tailored to the touch controllers and retrofit into every other controller

median basalt
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Yeah

versed hound
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Looks white to me...

vocal shard
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i blame X for flaunting themselves all over social media

languid beacon
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Vrchat does not support oculus go

rough pulsar
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Oculus Go is more like the samsung GearVR

median basalt
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The Oculus Rift has the best hand controllers

rough pulsar
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Only an entire unit, no phone required.

median basalt
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Vive has easier full-body tracking

versed hound
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Luna Starlight - Today at 19:52
Like the ship girl???
I asked that from you... @thorny totem

languid beacon
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Oculus go is a gearvr with a built in screen

median basalt
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But the Vive is more expensive, FBT is expensive on top of that, and FBT only really works in this game

versed hound
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ohh...

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Nice...

vocal shard
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yes thats why HTC loves to spend their cash over vrchat

thorny totem
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@versed hound ohhh, no like the Jarvis computer voice in Ironman ;)

versed hound
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Since no one ever answers me when I ask for help with these will ask them here...

floral aspen
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oculus touch are best controllers

vocal shard
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so dudes can come in here and bitch about how this """"girl""" ruined their little game of playing house

floral aspen
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Though the knuckles look very promising

languid beacon
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Oculus go is rotational tracking only, can’t lean in or sideways and have your view shift , also can’t play pc games on it it’s basically a self contained VR console

thorny totem
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it's 3DOF yes

versed hound
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Can someone help me make a simple headtilt animation??? Can someone convert a file that needs tetraface???

languid beacon
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Wireless though which is hot, but lack of positional tracking or hands is a deal breaker for me

floral aspen
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I've never seen someone complain on here about girls tho

median basalt
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The Knuckles do look promising

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Yeah same

vocal shard
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what is tetraface tho?

versed hound
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A 3d software...

floral aspen
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if anything guys wish there were more girls in VRChat

median basalt
#

Although I have had people call me a "trap" because I use female avatars

vocal shard
#

not here as in the discord

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here as in vrchat

floral aspen
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ohhhh okay

rough pulsar
median basalt
#

People barely even know what the word trap means anymore

versed hound
#

I need a model converted badly but I cant get it...

vocal shard
#

well no youre driving us out with your trapmania

median basalt
#

The knuckles controllers look good but I have to stick to my oculus for now

vocal shard
#

sad

floral aspen
#

Same. Knuckles look cool, but still not worth buying a vive for

languid beacon
#

Ignore the whole trap meme. If you have a female avatar and use voice as a guy you will be called a trap, even if you are making no attempt to fool anyone

vocal shard
#

what if i dont sound like a guy and that is the very problem?

versed hound
#

I will go offline cus I see no point in idling in a world if I have nothing to do...

languid beacon
#

Don’t take it seriously it’s just a meme fallout at this point

versed hound
#

Be right back...

vocal shard
#

people insta assume i use voice changing software

floral aspen
#

Luna do you not have any friends in VRChat?

vocal shard
#

and when i fight them over it im an edgy youngling

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literally second life

versed hound
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I have two I cant join, and I have one I cant join cus of the world they are in...

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And I dont wana play music to myself...

floral aspen
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oof, sad day. The private world meta is annoying

near saffron
#

Yeah wish more of my friends where in friend+ instances

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Not inv only ones

median basalt
#

Yeah

rough pulsar
#

@versed hound Just had a quick google, and searching for tetraface seems to point to the 3D software Metasequoia.

vocal shard
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90% of my friend list is locked in private

median basalt
#

Although usually when people are in Invite instances, they just spawned or something

vocal shard
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and that didnt change since months ago

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i'm thinking of just removing those

median basalt
#

Most of my friends list is in public worlds

floral aspen
#

same. It wasn't like this before the knuckles invasion

versed hound
#

I didnt play for two days cus of my depression getting worse and when I got online, only a few of my friends are online and not even they are available...

median basalt
#

I think a lot of people stick to invite instances because of performance issues that can arise when a lot of people are in one room

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I know I do

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Although I prefer Friends+

vocal shard
#

i'm usually fucking around in public worlds when the group i hang out with is not there

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and if there is too much people i just go into another public instance

versed hound
#

I torrented it down from a VIP torrent site, waited twelve weeks for seed and it turns out to be badly cracked so I cant use it... @rough pulsar

vocal shard
#

people stick to invite because sometimes you get the unsavory indivsiual

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who is either an earrape meme or a script kiddie

median basalt
#

I'd like to visit public worlds more often, but I can't until I get my new PC

vocal shard
#

also most public is cancer, espcially when talking about the pug

median basalt
#

The Pug gives me bad performance, Japan Shrine is full of Koreans

vocal shard
#

or the presentation room

rough pulsar
#

Every time I visit public worlds I'm reminded why I don't.

floral aspen
#

^

rough pulsar
#

It's sad really. :c

median basalt
#

Presentation room is a haven of hackers and crashers

floral aspen
#

Public worlds used to be where everyone hung out

median basalt
#

And it also doesn't perform very well, not sure why

rough pulsar
#

To be fair though, avoiding the popular worlds is a good start.

median basalt
#

Yeah

floral aspen
#

true

versed hound
#

Is there a way to get rid of the driver bullcrap before logging in???

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Its kinda anooying...

vocal shard
#

im STILL waiting on hand colliders to YEET a SCRIPT KIDDIE into the SUN

rough pulsar
#

No disrespect to the world creators of course.

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@versed hound the one saying you need to update your driver? I'm guessing you have an AMD card

floral aspen
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hand colliders will come... someday... Soon(TM)

vocal shard
#

i still want to yeet them into the sun

thorny totem
#

worlds are not the issues Gallium we all know that

vocal shard
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or kick them out of bounds

median basalt
#

Worlds are usually not the issue.

vocal shard
#

oh you want to fly script kiddie?

median basalt
#

Some worlds are

floral aspen
#

Well, they can be the issue if they aren't optimized

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not all worlds, but some

median basalt
#

Hangout House makes me feel like my PC is from 1998

lilac swan
#

All I can think of how performance (un)friendly the handcollider workaround will be

vocal shard
#

ill make you fly~

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hand colliders will be out when vrchat is dead and nobody gives a fuck about it anymore

versed hound
#

I do, why??? @rough pulsar

floral aspen
#

I think a lot of the issues with hangout house is the new stream panel

median basalt
#

Yep

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The game is not exactly being developed at a quick pace

floral aspen
#

it's pretty buggy still

versed hound
#

Is it bugged???

vocal shard
#

the ability to beat up traps or script kiddies will get me back into it tho

rough pulsar
#

@versed hound There's an optional driver update for AMD cards, which is what that update notification is about.

vocal shard
#

yo imagine

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dogpiling a crasher

versed hound
#

Quick not to EVERYONE here, at me if you want to say anything to me cus I can no longer follow every message sent...

vocal shard
#

theyd stop trying to crash people in vrchat when over 20 people are kicking and punching

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armed and dangerous

floral aspen
#

or they drop a crash bomb and crash everyone kicking and punching them at the press of a button

vocal shard
#

do crash bombs exist?

versed hound
#

The problem is, my PC is specially built so the only person who knows which driver is suitable for it is me... @rough pulsar

floral aspen
#

crash particles exist

vocal shard
#

no

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they can only cash indivisual users

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thats why they use crash guns or pointers

versed hound
#

Not even the OS can recognize my PC properly...

vocal shard
#

particle limiter can easily get around that

median basalt
#

They can actually crash the whole instance if they wanted to

vocal shard
#

let them

rough pulsar
#

@versed hound I don't have an AMD card so I'm making some educated guesses here
https://support.amd.com/en-us/download
Pick your card model and OS version and download the latest optional driver. That should sort out the notification in vrchat.

median basalt
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It's not particularly harder than crashing one person, the issue is that it would also affect themselves

vocal shard
#

knowing people will fight back will take the fun out of it

near saffron
#

So kamikaze

versed hound
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D-did you read my last two messages... @rough pulsar

quasi cape
#

anyone know any good key rebind software
been trying to force rebind wasd to arrows

vocal shard
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dont do it

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vrchat has a policy against modifying the client

umbral reef
#

Keyrebinding cna be done client side :failfish:

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Its almost always done client side outside of the program

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Like OS layer

floral aspen
#

Luna you may have built your pc but you used the same parts that everyone else uses. If you have an amd card it will be on that website

vocal shard
#

it would warrant you a ban

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"Regarding reverse engineering our APP or using hacked clients - reverse engineering the VRChat app is a violation of section 9 of our TOS and can lead to a permanent ban from the service."

versed hound
#

You know I don't wana modify base files...

umbral reef
#

How the fuck would editing my keyboard layout OS side be bannable 😂

quasi cape
#

ive used there client rebind arrows are set on both slots its still wasd by defalt using desktop

umbral reef
#

Bruh you legit just press < instead of A and tell VRC you pressed A
You dont go into VRC to do anything

floral aspen
#

you don't have to modify the client to rebind keys

versed hound
#

But I have someone who can :P

vocal shard
#

using a third party software counts as modifying tho

umbral reef
#

That is not how keybinding works

vocal shard
#

you're allowing a third party app access to the vrchat client build

versed hound
#

Tidus, I said my PC is special for a reason...

lilac swan
#

JoyToKey might be able to do that?

quasi cape
#

i rebound using the seceret menu

floral aspen
#

@versed hound what makes it so special?

vocal shard
#

ah

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SAY THAT FROM THE BEGINNING

umbral reef
#

Instead of telling us tech nerd "Its special" tell us what is special from it

versed hound
#

I can't explain a shitload of IT stuff to you...

umbral reef
#

@vocal shard Me saying its OS side should be enough

floral aspen
#

@versed hound why not?

rough pulsar
#

@vocal shard Directly modifying vrchat files is not allowed. fucking with the input vrchat recieves is... well there's no rules on that in any way.

umbral reef
#

Give us the tech talk then- If you know the right therms its a few seconds work

versed hound
#

Think of it like frankeinstean's PC...

floral aspen
#

and?

vocal shard
#

so you built a pc

umbral reef
#

I can explain most complicated Domitica machines workings in a few lines

vocal shard
#

ok

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good for you

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do you have the make of the mobo?

versed hound
#

I said I can't, do you know what that means??? @umbral reef

vocal shard
#

the cpu at least?

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just tell us you have no idea

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dont make us feel like we are retarded or something

floral aspen
#

When you say you can't explain a bunch of IT stuff to us it sounds like you think we won't understand

versed hound
#

I didn't say you are retarded... wtf

vocal shard
#

how hard it is to tell us who made your motherboard?

umbral reef
#

Your legit refusing help now so--

vocal shard
#

you clearly think we are since your "IT stuff" is far too complicated for our so simple minds

umbral reef
#

Big odds someone in here can help you without a problem or piont you in the right direction that would save your friend time looking if you talked but eh-

modern sand
#

If you guys don't mind moving this to the random channel please

vocal shard
#

just call me a cavewoman and be done with it

quasi cape
#

how do you leagley forcebind something that involves not changeing any of the client stuff but using what the software grants you could it be because i have a qwerty keyboard and i use windows 10

vocal shard
#

should be working if you use the shift menu

versed hound
#

I learnt it once, built a PC according to it what was years ago, dont fucking expect me to remember anything from it!!!

floral aspen
#

If you don't know how to check then just say that

versed hound
#

This is why I hate to join conversations...

vocal shard
#

so open up your fucking pc and make a list, then come back to us!!!!

versed hound
#

I'll go cry on the corner...

vocal shard
#

jeexz

quasi cape
#

yup used the shift menu no change

vocal shard
#

report it then

umbral reef
quasi cape
#

theres a config of keybindings i rather not screw with that

umbral reef
#

You can download programs to only temporary do it- Once you close to program they will go away

quasi cape
#

thats what im looking for

#

can someone either pm me a name or a link i do not want spyware

thorny totem
#

Zarniwoop gave you one i think

vocal shard
#

@quasi cape joytokey

worldly relic
#

yo

#

may i ask a favor?

umbral reef
#

maybe

cold talon
#

State your request and we'll see

thorny totem
#

@cold saddle what is your motivation for doing such a map? just curious

#

any chance to found your grandma diaries? i mean the world could be more appealing

#

i see

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serving?

#

for which country? (curious again)

#

what i thought

#

and you found that fascinating right?

#

would you call it political in some extent?

#

i see so it would be a museum world of some sort?

#

or just because svastika?

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by?

#

no i'm ok thanks

#

boredom make you do silly things sometime :P

#

but if it's made with taste and with some sense behind it, why not

#

but as soon as it become political in form and shape, i suppose the TOS will slap you (if it ever get publish anyway)

#

hmm interesting, the investigation process is quite cool i recon

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well when you're done and if it ever get published drop me a name ;)

small wing
#

someone said the hub is gone but i cant jump in game rn to see

#

its this true? 😮

whole lodge
#

Wish there were more accurate hit boxes instead of a giant pill shape

#

But guess that would be hard to keep consistent

median basalt
#

Accurate in which way?

#

It would be hard to standardize a proper player collider in such a way that it works on every model

#

Especially while keeping it lag-free

safe yacht
#

Would it be possible to get an admin or such in PM? Got something to talk about that I’d like to avoid talking about openly.

floral aspen
#

they don't DM. you have to email them

safe yacht
#

Alright

ivory folio
#

looks like its not listed in the featured tab, but its still there @small wing

umbral reef
lilac swan
#

If it's discord related then you can DM me.

grand zealot
#

why the fuck is vrchat taking so long to publish my damn modeeels

#

reeee

floral aspen
#

if you were able to successfully upload a model they show up in your avatar list almost immediately

grand zealot
#

apparently not

floral aspen
#

if not, something is probably wrong

grand zealot
#

I've been modeling for a very long time, this is the first this has happened in awhile

#

seems so

thorny totem
#

just tested, it seems ok, instantly in the list

whole lodge
#

@median basalt yeah that's what I was thinking. Just maybe have humanoid looking colliders instead of a giant pill.

I'd personally like something so where if I duck. The hit box comes with me. Just a dream I suppose.

median basalt
#

Ah, like that

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Well, that should be possible though

#

Just lower the upper end of the capsule I'd say

whole lodge
#

Hard to put on a show and do all these full body maneuvers "Like jumping over a disc in Battle disks" and you just have this giant pill that says "NOPE"

median basalt
#

But that might make things inconsistent unless desktop can also crouch

whole lodge
#

I mean.. It is called VRChat. That could get it later like the gesture update.

#

Just my few cents. I'd love to dodge weapons and shots with my hit box. Would give me as Rakan more flair

#

Or anybody for that matter

hexed flame
#

How do I manually connect my mic to vrchat

#

i did something wrong

floral aspen
#

you can select which mic you want to use in the VRChat System Menu

hexed flame
#

No, I mean

#

It's not popping up

#

in system

small wing
#

I can account for this being a big one on ram usage, could help out more than people think.

#

Might also make a post suggesting some other things such as allowing world creators to put reverb in thier worlds on the voices in the room for better spacialization so people can pick out people in the room better. Altspace has a very similar function and ive noticed it helps when trying to talk to people in the room when there are multiple convos going on at once.

#

could help, not sure though on that one. Would be great to see the communitys opinion. Or even add a voice reverb slider in the menu to disable it if need be.

#

did it up. if you agree or disagree lemme know, would be sick to talk about this in the comments.

jovial storm
#

out of curiosity. Has anyone seen a working Vash from trigun avatar in VrChat??

#

or a working model of Grave/brandon heat from gungrave?

wispy ivy
#

yo if anyone knows how to fix this i cant hear music in vrchat clubs anymore, and all my sound options are up

#

like sound fx and everything

floral aspen
#

I'm pretty sure I've seen a Vash avatar before

jovial storm
#

nice.

#

i got some help on a vash avatar. but i can not do anything with it. lol.

median basalt
#

Yes

#

I have a Vash avatar in my world lol

#

And a friend of mine has one too

#

@jovial storm

#

Pretty sure I was one of the only ones with that model in a world, although I might not be the only one anymore

jovial storm
#

nice.

median basalt
#

It's one of my first public models though, so it's not super great and I kinda wanna redo it

jovial storm
#

i want to get a vash model cause i was told i look alot like him.

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was also told i act like him to >.>

median basalt
#

You have a model for him, right?

jovial storm
#

i have one but it keeps saying limbs that are there are missing.

median basalt
#

Oh

#

Can you show me the rig setup in Unity?

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The whole one

#

Just a screenshot of the green outline guy

jovial storm
#

i can try but i would have to switch computers. got a new one and have not been able to transfer stuff yet.

median basalt
#

Oh, alright

vocal shard
#

What is difference between roomscale and full body tracking

jovial storm
#

i think its because i can not seem to get him to be in t pose outside of the rig setup.

hasty wedge
#

roomscale is being able to walk around ur room and fullbody is in the name

vocal shard
#

hm

jovial storm
#

when i leave the rig setup the avatar dissapears.

vocal shard
#

How much area do I need to do steamvr standing only setup

#

I mean minimum scale

hidden hearth
#

I run with 6x6 ft :×

jovial storm
#

ugh i gives up. I keep trying to put the char in a T pose but it will not keep.

#

I leave the rig setup and he is in the reverse Y pose when i go to rig he is in the T pose >.>

median basalt
#

Uh, what

#

You mean he's A-posed in the scene? That's normal

#

T-pose only happens inside the rigging window @jovial storm

true sky
#

^^

jovial storm
#

okay then why does it still say everything is wrong with the shoulders and spine? It shows its all good in the Rig.

true sky
#

did you set the bones up in the rig properly as in define the shoulders and spine?

jovial storm
#

i think i did but i can check.

#

i know when i look at it everything is in the green at least.

true sky
#

is the error occur when you try to upload it?

median basalt
#

Can you post a screenshot of the rig setup please?

jovial storm
#

yea.

true sky
#

post a snapshot of your rig setup

jovial storm
#

i can't get a screen shot or do not know how to at least. never taken one before.

median basalt
#

Open the snipping tool

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Just type snipping tool into the start menu

#

Then drag a box around the green silhouette in the rig setup (right sidebar most likely)

true sky
#

Ctrl + Print Screen also works too

median basalt
#

Save the image and upload to imgur

#

Yeah

gilded bone
#

my dad beats me

jovial storm
#

where should i post it?

#

i will post it in avatars.

knotty parcel
#

red holograms

kind folio
#

thonk

#

What does "could not log in - unauthorized" mean?

#

Everytime I close vrchat this appears

#

Is this normal lmao?

signal wren
#

keep getting pit out of account lol wtf

#

spit XD

vocal shard
#

@kind folio Installing that enables VRChat to automatically open when you click on VRChat world links.

#

red holograms

#

how to fix

#

reupload avatar

#

other people

#

unless its other ppls avatars

#

yea

#

i see tons aswell

#

not sure, probs something with the servers

rose sage
#

Anyone else having issues with red avatars / unable to join worlds?

#

Oh whoops, my bad. Probably should have read the chat

long acorn
#

so every 5 minutes my mic cuts out to other players but if i rejoin the world it resets the time.....
how do i fix this

languid beacon
#

What kind of mic is it

whole lodge
#

Biggest thing would be to try reinstalling the game.
Try a new port for your microphone.
Check to see if the mic does it in any other applications.
Check and see if your pc is automatically setting your mic to another in the pc settings.
Make sure your mic is selected on Vrchat. If it is, try switching to another than back to yours.

@long acorn

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Of course. A few of those require you to wait the 5 minutes.

languid beacon
#

Open audacity and leave your mic open while recording background noise and see if its slowly building up static

#

If so, noise cancellation is slowly getting more aggressive until it starts cutting you out

chrome drum
#

May I ask why some people have a vortex loading screen and some don't?

vocal shard
#

TUPPER FIX THE GAME

#

WTF

#

lol

chrome drum
#

I've still got the old loading screen

languid beacon
#

The vortex can be turned on and off in system menu

#

Idk what it’s called but it’s the only checkbox related to loading

chrome drum
#

Oh cool I'll see if I can find it next time @languid beacon

languid beacon
#

If Tupper helps make VRChat does that make VRChat Tupperware

whole lodge
#

Yeah I turned the Vortex on

#

Reminds me of respawning in Borderlands

vague hound
#

Anyone use Kinect for full body tracking?

ruby needle
#

Adeon

#

why

vague hound
#

I can't seem to get mine to work.

#

It makes my character unable to move, T-poses, and disconnects from my IRL body motion

ruby needle
#

you need to calibrate when you use FBT

#

did you do that?

vague hound
#

yes

ruby needle
#

and you need to do it every time

vague hound
#

I calibrated. Joined. Stuck.

ruby needle
#

not sure if you need to recalibrate on each room switch cirThink

vague hound
#

Nope, calibrated, ran, same thing.

#

Can't use analog sticks to move, t-posed, seperated from body when I walk IRL

#

I'm beginning to hate Youtube tutorials. They're all the same. here's how to install, here's the calibration, let's launch the game.. wow! It works.

jovial storm
#

I hate youtube tutorials to.

#

though mine my thing is for the avatars. but thats just me possibly. 😃

vague hound
#

Yeah, I can't find a good weight painting tutorial yet.

#

I know how to do it, but none of the tutorials cover known problems. I've got a tir clipping into my chest when I move the neck. I took off all weights associated to the neck, but it's still weighted to the neck.

#

And about 30 minutes ago, my left speaker stopped working on my oculus.. I feel like I'm facing down Murphy's law of VRChat.

worthy swan
#

There is a guy streaming stealing avatars and doin racist stuff on twitch

#

If any mods are up to check

modern sand
rustic galleon
#

Hey Anyone online?

vocal shard
#

VRchat still has people stealing avatars? haha! oh my days how long has it been and its still happening huh? fun stuff

ivory folio
#

i doubt it'll ever stop happening

vocal shard
#

It's gotten to the point where i started putting a bage/watermark on my avatar so people know it's mine

#

Really annoying with this stealing and crashing

#

Crashing, so people are still using localplayer and flooding with particles even now? i assumed that a global particle count would of been added by now on avatars limiting usage. I've returned after about 5 months.. i see changes but not quite security.. which should be a priority.

near saffron
#

Well they have now made the new particle limiter which helps.

vocal shard
#

I'm sure it would, but sounds like its not being enforced Globally on all avatars.. if people are still crashing others by overflowing stack with particles.

polar jasper
#

You have to enable it yourself

vocal shard
#

And people are aware of this i take it.

polar jasper
#

yes, but it's still in beta stage and they do want to have it in the UI at some point

rough pulsar
#

Just don't set the values to 0, that causes things to break. :D

vocal shard
#

Yes.. UI should be a priority really.. even still i did see a limiter.. although seeing as 20k poly was limit enforced globally i would of assumed it would be just as easy to apply this to the whole on particle count to begin with.

#

Gallium hey 😉 what if we really break it and use negative values?

rough pulsar
vocal shard
#

haha, i will have to break it and i will report.. soon as i have all this crap reinstalled.. you can count on omega to break your system.. dont worry.

rough pulsar
#

Ah the joys of reinstalling shit

vocal shard
#

Yeah no joke.. reinstalling unity and 3dmax.. and unreal engine.. oh my days its horrible

#

i imagine the size of the file would be truly massive.. but we could put all programs into one executable to make it easier on people

kind folio
#

20k poly limit lul

#

it's a great limit and helps with lag a lot:)

fresh tiger
#

Hey yeah can you mods not join in on private friends only instances

#

streamers popping into our meetups is a big problem

vocal shard
#

Just use an invite only instance.

runic pollen
#

ther is a guy whiv a hitler avatar psedo: Killeurwolf741 I report him

vocal shard
mystic wadi
#

Can there be two vrchat accounts on the same steam account?

#

I don’t want my brother using mine

ivory folio
#

if you choose to sign into the game using steam, it'll use whatever account is currently logged into steam on your pc

arctic trellis
#

hey is VRCVideoSyncs broken?

ivory folio
#

really you should make a vrchat account anyway, there arent any advantages of steam accounts over vrchat accounts

mystic wadi
#

Um my brother is stuck at the spinning cube part

polar jasper
#

@arctic trellis no it's not. What issue you having with it?

arctic trellis
#

i cleared my cashe and it started working

#

idk what happened lol

#

glad its working again tho :P

polar bone
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i know no one here cares but season 5 of fortnite means more avatars i can import into vrchat

tacit plank
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I just thought of something great

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It's possible to make an online avatar store with coorporation with VRChat. To prevent theft, the user could get a special token on the name plate when the online store has verified that purchase and told VRChat (maybe through API or something?)
This is not the right channel for it, but I'm too tired to value my ideas much right now. Didn't want it to go to a waste either though

mental verge
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everything they sell would have to be free or copyright would hit em hard

tacit plank
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It would be custom models

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If you can sell models reliably without worrying about theifs, then you would likely get many sales. This would make it worthwhile for pros to sell cheap high-quality models

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Kind of like commisions, but with a larger aaudience and coorporation with VRChat to ensure that the avatars aren't stolen (Anyone with the custom models but no name tag for it would be banned)

umbral reef
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The thing is though-- VRC just has to enforce copyright laws once they become aware of it
Once they get a notice they have to take action but before that they just need to minimize the copyright infringement (What is hard to do). So they just force you to 'legally' sign the avatar your using is fine and all G

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So if avatar owners want to take action- Its against the user ripping the model- Not using it right (aka editing it) or selling it

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Not against VRC

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If someone uploads your song on YT- You dont take YT to court - You ask them to remove it and if shit goes wrong you take the uploader to court

tacit plank
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They will be custom, so there is no copyright violations. As for avatar sealers, there's no need to go to legal route, admins can just ban anyone who has the avatar but aren't certified to have it

mental verge
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avatar stealers dont have friends anyway so it doesnt matter

storm berry
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Huh. Opening the Avatar menu seems to be causing VRChat to crash, at the moment.

true sky
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@storm berry have output logs?

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could help out the vrchat development team

proper prism
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Hoi

gritty socket
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I need to spend more time in the game to publish avatars, but how does the website know how many hours my account has if I never linked my steam account to it?

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And there doesn't seem to be a way to do so.

umbral reef
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Because it doesnt count steam hours

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You need to use an VRC account to be able to get thrown into the pool of the trust system

gritty socket
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So I can't just play the game?

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I have to do something with the account

umbral reef
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You make an VRC account- Like you need one to log into the SDK and into the website anyway so you already got one

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But once you start up the game instead of loggin in via steam you login via that account

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and then play untill you unlock the uploading stuff

gritty socket
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Oh, alright then.

vocal shard
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question why when i get kicked it says this will be reported to the mods?

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what does it mean get 100 kicks = ban?

median basalt
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No

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It's a stupid canned message

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Nothing will happen

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I doubt kicks actually go to the game's mods, and even if they did

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The mods are too busy to be dealing with that

vocal shard
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okie thx time to break my record of 57 kicks in 1 day

umbral reef
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Big odds if you get kicked that much you will be banned :lul:

inner cape
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Thats a way to get banned, yea

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You're prolly being super annoying

shy nest
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well can only hope

vocal shard
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no no im not im just asking them to vote kick me

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and then they do it

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easy way]

inner cape
river drum
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I feel bad if that what you find as enjoyment in life haha

inner cape
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Let the man be

river drum
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I am, if he isn't hurting someone Idc I just feel bad =3 i am allowed to

inner cape
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You didn't have to say it out loud in public

river drum
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It's kinda like dogs and cats I feel bad for them. They just sit there all day and sleep haha but I'm here hitting up anime babes on vr chat =3

inner cape
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I mean, if thats why you are playing vrchat, then I feel bad for you too haHAA

river drum
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Not why I play haha just happens ^~^ I rarely play now cuz Idk what to do

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I don't really talk on vr chat because my voice is girly so I get many weirdos, so I explore worlds with friends but that gotten boring since worlds are not out put a lot or design for running around. Many are just avatars

inner cape
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No surprise

polar jasper
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A lot of those lately yea. But I do know there are a few developers that are making more interactive worlds

inner cape
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Vrc has a lot of desperate weirdos

junior rock
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Yeah thats true

versed hound
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Please tell how to select some mesh so I can delete a small bit!!!

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I forgot :c

inner cape
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Select a vertice n press ctrl + L

vocal shard
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i can understand the mod

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but it allowed someone nobody knew to join

inner cape
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Wat

umbral reef
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Ruby dont give hard questions about staff :^) We know they are perfect and never shothun punished or alike within the game /s

vocal shard
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this mod was invisible in the instance

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and then a streamer joined off of him

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you can clearly see heh ad nobody added but the mod

inner cape
kind folio
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lol

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not surprised

vocal shard
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its already weird the mod is invisible

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but his friends can join off of him?

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streamers nonetheless?

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:s

kind folio
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streamers are basically mods didn't u know

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:, )

inner cape
vocal shard
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i guess so

inner cape
vocal shard
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🤷

versed hound
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Nevermind...

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I figured it out the long way...

kind folio
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curious if they plan on releasing something to do with avatars and Udon

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hmMmM

inner cape
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Udon?

kind folio
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the new node based system

vocal shard
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would be neat

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i hope so

kind folio
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they are making

inner cape
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Yee

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More scripts on avatars when

kind folio
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same. having real animators other than the crappy / confusing unity ones would be nice. especially ones designed for vrchat

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udon would be that

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IF they plan on it

inner cape
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All I want is a teleporting system

kind folio
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they did say when they announced it they said they are using udon instead of a playmaker as a basis as part of the sdk so they can add on instead of an external one like playmaker

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just make ur own ghoost

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ez

inner cape
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Sure

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Let me just modify the sdk and upload my own scripts

indigo fern
errant vault
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cant wait to see if Ai is even possible with udon

kind folio
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I seen a map with AI earlier

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truth photos and me

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it's only local ai but it worked.

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and let me tell you, that was by far the scariest map I've played

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it also took advantage of the inventory system I'm assuming that uses the player follow scripts

errant vault
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i think you cant grab player data. maybe player cam.

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not sure +_-

inner cape
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Grab player itself

kind folio
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idk but they managed to make a really weird system that worked locally

errant vault
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how can you reference player, i can only see that happening to custom player cam

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changing topic, that moment when youre in the locker room at nightshift and the building gets a blackout.

iron heart
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maybe there ought to be a dialog by now when you login and the game detects this is a steam account tbh idk

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let them know they gotta gtfo that account

errant vault
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(pulls out phone flashlight , sees co worker suddenly appear)

iron heart
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if they want custom shit

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cause there's so many people by now who put like 20 hours into the wrong one.

errant vault
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wow, they'll probably feel sour about that.

median basalt
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You sure it was a mod and not a modified client?

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@vocal shard

vocal shard
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yes

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that wasa streamer

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he joined off that alien guy ron

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apparently when mods are invisible it doesnt stop their friends from joining

polar jasper
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(yet)

vocal shard
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thats some nice optimism you have there

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id like ot have some of it too

polar jasper
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There are "status" stuff being worked on (if you see in the API)

vocal shard
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playmaker was being worked on at one point

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:^)

umbral reef
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Phaxe its still bullshit--

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And even if that gets fixed- Why was a mod in stealth looking at a friends group

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Not creepy at all or something

polar jasper
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Maybe someone sent a mod report?

vocal shard
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because its a 4chan group and 4chan is big ebil

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nah

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mods have been stalking them for a while now

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i take issue with people joining off the mods

polar jasper
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Why do you even care though?

vocal shard
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whe nthey're doing their moderation duties

median basalt
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Yeah, it's kinda creepy to have random mobs just join private instances

vocal shard
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streamer joins off of some invisible guy nobody knows

umbral reef
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Then its still creepy and imo discussing that mods lurk on all the other people within the room

vocal shard
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gee billy i wonder why i care

median basalt
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Mods*

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Especially if they're invisible

umbral reef
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what if one of them is talking in confidence towards a friend?

vocal shard
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exactly

indigo fern
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Hi we've update our privacy policy vrpill

umbral reef
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Nice trust building for mods and users 👌

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Not like that shit is high anyway

median basalt
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And especially if those mods can then drag their streamer buddies into the instance

vocal shard
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a big one at that

median basalt
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Tbh I would have kicked the streamer on sight

vocal shard
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he was

umbral reef
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Its nothing odd if a mod joins while he can been seen
Im all for them being invisible in public worlds to find bad guys-- But friends only worlds?

vocal shard
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can you see ron in the clip?

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that map is small you can see the entire room

umbral reef
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And lets throw it into another light
Its also bad if anyone can join a friends+ room by a game mistake-

errant vault
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+_-

vocal shard
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yeah by joining his mods friend

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his mod friend*

polar jasper
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As I said, It seems they are working on some "status" stuff now, so all that could be/will be sorted then.

umbral reef
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Is it though? All that changes is friends of mods not joining mods by accident
And "soon" within this team deification can be tomorrow morning or next year-

median basalt
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Yeah, it could take another year

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Playmaker was "soon(tm)" too.

vocal shard
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you scroungign the API doesnt even mean its being worked on

median basalt
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Ever since I joined, all we really got were some small (but nifty) SDK updates for world creators, and... cameras.

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And that's it.

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I joined like half a year ago

vocal shard
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nor does them working on it guarentee it'll see the light of day

errant vault
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same

polar jasper
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The stuff was added to the API in the last month.

vocal shard
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playmater soon(tm)

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cant guarentee "worked on" stuff will be released

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that said udon will probably be better than PM ever could be

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wait wut

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da-rama!

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an in house system for "game systems" is better than play maker

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im psyched for node graph

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i learned how to make worlds just for it

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vrchat is going to become a platform

median basalt
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Playmaker was really powerful though

vocal shard
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i think people will be joining vrchat just to play the games and the playercount will go up

median basalt
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I think Udon will be better tailored to the game but worse overall

vocal shard
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there's certain things about it that weren't convinient

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well thats at least what tupper said

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I mean, if it's turing complete it's turing complete.

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yeah its too limiting

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udon is in house so it can be more restrictive and less restrictive at the same time

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they cant just modify playmaker without getting hti with legal issues

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and we'd have to pay to use playmaker too

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which to make it shin it would need to be able to be modified a bit

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yep

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that'd be fucked

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(some people already did)

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their biggest mistake was taking so long to start the swap

median basalt
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They can modify playmaker though, adding custom actions is supported and expected

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And they can restrict actions

vocal shard
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its not like they dont have the talent of resources to fund and man the udon making so it should easily be better than PM

median basalt
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I think one of the biggest issues is that Playmaker was paid

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But at this rate, it'll be two years before Udon releases

vocal shard
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they can't modify the base

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anybody hare got the miko ooka fox avatar?

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itd be nice if we could get a unity upgrade

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rub you're a beta tester right

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do you know how complete nodegraph is

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or udon or whatever it is

polar jasper
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@vocal shard go to their discord and you find it there

vocal shard
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mikO ooka >.>

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discord