If the second update ya drivers bud
#vrchat-general-2
umbral reef
floral aspen
what are your specs?
shy nest
laptop
i wonder why
floral aspen
lol pls don't say no dedicated gpu
Someone actually said that once and I facepalmed so hard
tranquil vortex
Intel integrated can only do so much...
floral aspen
he said he has an AMD laptop though
tranquil vortex
What kind of graphics controller does an AMD chip have
floral aspen
idk, depends on which AMD processor he has
gloomy sequoia
I'm sad. I can't watch videos with my friends since with the last update the screens stopped working.
vocal shard
the someone was me @floral aspen and dont worry i facepalmed equally as hard
you think i like having the equalivent of a geforce 310m running a vr game
tranquil vortex
Hold on nl
vocal shard
ok am holding on
tranquil vortex
tranquil vortex
Magic
median basalt
Those specs are for VR
You can get away with much lower on desktop
Low FPS is less of an issue on desktop as well
languid beacon
for real if you are epileptic, open user content sandboxes are really not safe for you in general. i've seen tons of siezure triggering things taking up my full headset. either stick with private worlds or disable particles entirely
iron heart
if you're epileptic your life is no fun allowed
owned
can't play this, can't play that, some games you can't turn off anything
what happens to these people when they have to drive through sunlight coming through trees? that shit is so light flickery and uncomfortable for normal people
indigo fern
quiet perch
เฒ _เฒ
tranquil vortex
ornate topaz
hi
ocean arch
@thorny totem I brought it to a technician and they've confirmed it to be a bad virus.
So yeah
Somehow got on the PC after visiting a site hosting a download for Voicemeeter
midnight willow
is there any admin by chance on?
ornate topaz
3 of them
ebon shard
prisma timber
How do you make object in a world move?
ebon shard
but ses what do you need since if its a report then it goes #moderation-reports or if its a suggestion generally it has to be forwarded to their support email
world or avatar
prisma timber
I can't seem to get the auto rotate script to work on objects in my world.
ebon shard
best to ask in #world-development then
midnight willow
@ornate topaz yes but Its more of a private matter that needs to be brought up IMMIDIATLY
ornate topaz
ok
warped pasture
on the vive controllers, what button lets go of items? i cant figure it out and no menu shows me how to do it :c
ebon shard
its the shoulder buttons on the sides
versed hound
It was not my behaviour nor the group I am in... Simply a cancerous person decided to be an asshole because that makes him feel good??? I honestly dont understand animals like this... I was there with my friends, few minutes after he arrived, I went to the corner with one of my friends to talk a bit more privately... I could hear him say "if I vote to kick her, will you accept it"... @umbral reef
And blocking is worth nothing, assholes still bully me regardless of being blocked or not... (different users)
ebon shard
what are you bullied for though
abstract dawn
Does anyone know what format of model I need to start with to import it to the game?
Like .xxx?
craggy hinge
I remember there was a doc with like users that had their account banned and reasons, can someone send me a link to it?
versed hound
It is usually *.pmx what you import to Blender... @abstract dawn
There are various reason they excuse themselves as of why they act as they do...
velvet quarry
Good question, advert's not responding, I'll just assume it was a mistake and go ahead and unpin that.
ebon shard
how many particles is too many particles
vocal shard
kek
ebon shard
velvet quarry
Ones message being "pinned" is nothing bad, just doesn't make sense in this case, in this particular channel
ebon shard
dunno how bad it would lag but can only find out by trying
vocal shard
hey afro
do you know what the hell a "dynamic material" is
on the vrc_worlds componnent
velvet quarry
Afraid I haven't tinkered with that personally.
vocal shard
k
versed hound
My PC can handle a lot of particles...
But not an unholy amount so I still crash from cancer people...
ebon shard
animating a megumin explosion so its pretty particle intensive
i've only used maybe 10 particles for the runes and 100 on other effects though
39 second animation too
ebon shard
what kind of song
old friends (half an orange) - chill
backbone (droeloe) - trap
labels (katelyn tarver) - pop sort of
versed hound
What is chill???
ebon shard
idk
versed hound
Is it a type of music or for chill???
ebon shard
its a good song tho
tough mesa
I can help you
ebon shard
dont know the genre exactly
tough mesa
What type of music are you looking for
tough mesa
versed hound
The first one is nah its slow I might sleep... DX
tough mesa
versed hound
I have high hopes for the next one...
ebon shard
got nightcore too so its higher tempo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlnSIrQ90B4&index=26
versed hound
Chill guys I cant listen that fast... @_@"
versed hound
But its nice to see people who are nice for a change...
ebon shard
๐
versed hound
Hey, I just called you nice... :c
tough mesa
Sounds like you don't know a lot of nice people, can we be friends
versed hound
I knew a rather nice number of nice people, but over time they got so comfy around me that they started to hurt me...
I'm still not over losing my Japanese friend but you dont wana hear more of my stories...
alpine cove
oof, just got GPU crashed
versed hound
I is listen hard...
Head hurt :c
When you messaged me I almost screamed, but I am mute so...
I dont get messages too often...
safe prism
@vocal shard i think that's any material that'll ever be used in a world, not just the unanimated/pre-triggered ones, so it uploads them all.
tough mesa
Sorry
safe prism
it's usually filled automatically if you empty it and have nothing silly
versed hound
I even got scared of me putting this on the taskbar...
vocal shard
it doesnt delete materials when i decide nto to use em
should i bother deleting them in the end?
to free up space?
versed hound
I cant listen to S3RL cus it makes my nerves dance and I haven't had my medicine and I dont wana pass out...
safe prism
i haven't seen it clear unused ones
safe prism
ye
versed hound
I am so tired I forgot to turn on my woofy...
ebon shard
wait whats a woofy ๐ค
safe prism
if there's no animated/triggered mats, you can just zero it and it'll fill back up
ebon shard
where theres a will theres a way
versed hound
You promised beatdrop...
ebon shard
on which one
versed hound
No delivery... wtf angery
versed hound
tears her hair out
ebon shard
๐
versed hound
When I thought I am winning cus I am at the last one...
ebon shard
i got a whole 96 song playlist and another one thats 738 songs
tough mesa
versed hound
oh boy...
How to disconnect...
You think I can listen to that many???
I will go insane...
versed hound
Want to know how much my depression worsened???
I swore to never have one and I laughed at people who had any, now I have two meme folders...
versed hound
Mine are not even close...
But I dont mind...
I actually haven't visited meme sources for a week...
No, actually since I had to part my Japanese friend...
He broke my depression into something worse...
What the actual sexual intercourse...
ebon shard
hwat
versed hound
I won!!!
I listened to everything you posted and since you posted nothing new...
That was my luck...
I am watching a live video from Tokyo and trains pass all the time, but I saw a pretty one that I even know and like!!!
iron heart
so you live in japan huh?
versed hound
slowly walks away
iron heart
what lol
shy nest
Y I K E S
ashen moth
I just got kicked from a room randomly.... how wood
ashen moth
It was a room for friends of guess, and I said the map was shite, and I guess the owner took that personally?
it was like a square box with stretching textures
fading owl
yeah, owner can kick you
ashen moth
it felt like an appropriate observation
vocal shard
Not to be a pungent players but note I've been kicked twice in 40 minutes for political opinion inside of a public room(niether time I've brought it up, only stated my opinion and contributed to the conversation.)
Not sure who I should say this to but leaving a message in hopes of not being banned for said opinion.
fading owl
@vocal shard ive been kicked multiple times because people thought my avatar was lagging the room just to find out i did literally nothing
thats just how it goes
versed hound
I got kicked a lot in the two recent days cus I refused to unblock someone who was an asshole with me...
Cus being more of an asshole will make me unblock them...
fading owl
but i must say, some people will not have anyone ruin their fun
one guy yesterday projected nsfw content onto everyones screen
one guy stepped up and literally crushed him with words
and he left without saying anything ๐
versed hound
What kind of nsfw???
fading owl
...stuff...
fading owl
1
versed hound
Last week I saw a brawler bug on its back, I looked closer if i can get it back up, saw one its antler thing missing and ants bugging it, I almost puked and ran away... But looking at someones head whose face got peeled off and put next to him is fine...
I dont care what is shoved in my face, if it modifies my screen I hate it...
ivory folio
bass boosted distortion screen shake ๐ฉ๐
thorny totem
@vocal shard you should read this https://vrchat.com/community ; Inappropriate Content : Political & Religious figures and symbology. Civil discourse is allowed in private spaces where all participants are aware of and accepting of the discussion.
high coral
are there anyone in vrchat that speaks vietnamese ๐ค
thorny totem
Probably but there is no way to know. That said could be a good idea to add a little flag somewhere, manually selected by the user himself
high coral
I want to speak my mothertongue for once damn it
small wing
@high coral could always search the world list for a language specific world
i know there was russian worlds before
and korean
so might already be a place
high coral
hm
small wing
now if there is actually people there, thats another issue.
lots of worlds dont get the recognition they deserve sadly
everyone now a days just prefers going to the same damn world every damn day, never exploring.
too many people are boring i guess.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
high coral
a lot of korean and japanese
small wing
yeah
at around 5am to 2pm (EDT)
ive noticed most are korean and japanese at that time
anything before that you can find a lot more australian people which is cool.
i like the diversity. just wish i could speak the language sometimes.
high coral
i wish i know enough jpn for a conversation
small wing
all i can say is explicitives lol
because i asked a korean dude how to insult people and he was kind enough to tell me xD
small wing
i can also introduce myself in japaneese and then also say i dont speak it lol
god forbid i even try to spell it.
stark gust
i fucking love deviantart when it comes to MMD's
shy nest
is that sarcasm
rustic galleon
anyone up?
dim aurora
i am.
rustic galleon
i need help making a avatar
stark gust
lol good luck
umbral reef
Within #tutorials there are some good video's explaining the basics on how to get a model VRC ready. Does not mean they are optimized at all (something you should look into once your avatar is working good)
And if problems happen that dont within tutorials then you ask in #avatars-2-general
stark gust
hey is any one familiar with vrchat and making avatars cuz i'm trying to upload this thing and my vrchat sdk is gone and if i go to export it into another project it takes away all my accessories on my avatar do any of you know how to fix that and i'm using accessories that where originally MMD's
umbral reef
Gotta connect the accessories to be part of the model..
Also #avatars-2-general is the right channel to ask forit
charred scroll
where does vrchat safe the (vr) panorama?
one of em is in the picture folder, but it is just a normal pic dublicated above it
vocal shard
do you see a loading icon before that @loud stirrup
and does it happen after you load the world only?
or before it?
connection problem, the world might have too many people which makes you softlock (softlock means you get disconnected for two seconds and then sent back to home or a new public instance)
or your connection is just weak
happened to me twice in a row trying to join a friend in a world, they were under the limit but because they were all gathered in one area and 90% of them used VR and IK i couldn't connect
try blocking non-friend avatars, it stops calculating IK which will help reduce lag and loading times
after the loading screen it logs you back in correct?
you're minding your own business when suddenly your viewpoint snaps to a 90ยฐ degree, you get the loading icon and then "Logging in as (VRC Ign here )"
strange
i get logged in auto
vocal shard
do you use a steam account?
do you have to login manually every time you run vrchat?
or is it just this thing that makes you do a manual login
it's not supposed to ask you for your credentials every time you worldjump
maybe your connection cannot access the internet?
it sometimes asks for a manual login when I start up vrchat without connecting to Wi-Fi first
this is a weirdly specific error
its like they dont want you to travel between worlds so quickly
or maybe its part of the trust system
how many worlds do you go through per hour?
per minute if an hour is too big of a time
maybe they fear you might be trying to crash instances or being used by a hacked client
some set up vrchat bots to hop worlds
lilac swan
Have you checked your output log? Might be some relevant info there
vocal shard
and crash instances
I'm not suggesting you're one
I'm just saying vrchat might be checking people who worldjump often
to catch offenders
robots can't enter creds using the vrchat login screen
if the client crashes trying to process what to do next (because a bot is automated) and doesnt log in they know it's a bot
it's like a captcha
lilac swan
support@vrchat.com might be able to help you out if you feel like you need it
vocal shard
bring it to their attention
lilac swan
๐
vocal shard
you welcome
empty wharf
Oof
strange meadow
lmao tfw you're banned for "loud audio", like wot, lmao. Songs classify as loud audio. And apparently grabpass shaders are bannable Kappa
can't remember the last time someone uploaded audio and didn't immediately get yelled at in 99% of lobbies for "OMG THATS SO LOUD". That's VRChat's issue for making audio so scuffed ingame, loud on some worlds, not so loud on others, no specific volume level to put it at, it's ear-rape one day, quiet as fuck the next
umbral reef
Its not VRC's fault people are to dumb to make there animations right lmao
wild wadi
Just fix your audio next time lol
umbral reef
Never experienced or heard about audio going 'magically' louder and then softer from world to world
polar elm
E mail them
wild wadi
Try to appeal I guess
strange meadow
if you're trying to claim someone could fuck that one up, and make it switch volumes per world, then you're just outright dumb lmao, and no, you can't just say everyones makes their animations "wrong" lmao, I've always used 0.2 or 0.4 audio volume, sounds never hit above 75% on the actual preview meter, yet here and there a few people complain that it's just too loud, even with a regular dropoff
wild wadi
What was the range at
strange meadow
30
wild wadi
There's your issue
strange meadow
That's the farthest it'd ever gotten
wild wadi
Volume with differ depending on range as well
strange meadow
My dropoffs usually go from 50%-0%
I never even keep it at 100% closest distance lmao
wild wadi
๐คท
ruby needle
unfortunately normal people + propper audio handling does not match at all (rarely)
ruby needle
many just plug their headphone into the audio aut and give it 100% and then just regulate each individual program...
even if every program ends up at like 30/40%...
i know so many people who dont set their "normal" audio level propperly
and no wonder those get their ears blown out when something comes in at 0db or more...
strange meadow
I'm the same way, my speakers are usually at 50% but 100% for applications, so all audio is virtually half the regular sound
ocean bramble
Meister Propper approves
obtuse jetty
same
strange meadow
But for my VR , it's always at 100%, lol. So that's my point
modern sand
I think the issue had more to do with the screenspace shader than the audio
strange meadow
How can you regulate audio volume
obtuse jetty
gotcha
strange meadow
I don't recall seeing rules on grabpass being against the rules? And why include audio if it's got nothing to do with it lmao
modern sand
I said more, not completely ๐ค
wild wadi
๐ธ ๐ฆ ๐ฑ ๐น
strange meadow
Nonetheless, still doesn't make sense how it can be regulated if it differs per person. That's my main issue
modern sand
But like others said, moderation@vrchat.com is the place to go if you want to appeal or have specific questions
wild wadi
I said to Appeal ๐ฆ
strange meadow
Meh, I'm going to wait it out, not a big deal, I barely play the game anyways, just wanted to vent ๐
Happy fourth, nerds
wild wadi
I got called a nerd on 4th of July
obtuse jetty
happy america day
wild wadi
I have reasoning to live again
obtuse jetty
wait so whats grabpass again
ivory folio
takes whatever is behind it and uses that as a texture. Its not grabpass thats gonna be banned, its the fullscreen part ๐ค
wild wadi
๐ค
obtuse jetty
oh so like where someone just fucks the screen of other people with like hentai
vocal shard
Or jumpscares, or quick flashes of flickering light that can cause seizures
obtuse jetty
oh ok good ffs thats so abundant in public lobbies ๐ฉ
ivory folio
Yeah but those things arent directly created with grabpass. You can put shit on peoples screen without it
ivory folio
going to the pug in 2018 ๐ง
ebon shard
pug is gud place
median basalt
I like the pug as a concept but I hate the lack of optimization so much
And it's not just the player limit being too high
I know the author is trying his best, but there's clearly something going on in that map.
Might just be the usage of mixed lights
ivory folio
is there any occlusion on the map? So the ground floor gets removed when you go upstairs, etc?
median basalt
There is
near saffron
Donโt think so. I see the entire map when sticking my head through walls. Wish the colliders stuff was changed in the Pug so u donโt respawn.
median basalt
I mean, the map gives me small lagspikes on the stairs to the roost so I thought it had occlusion culling
But when I stick my head through the wall, I can see every other part of the map
That's a good point
Yeah, the out of bounds colliders suck too. They don't check for your player capsule, they check if any object at all sticks out too far
Can't even leave spawn with some avatars
When I look at how reflection in that map works, I'm 99% sure it has mixed lights (confirmed in Owlboy's changelog), and the floor was not marked static last time I went there.
Save the realtime lights for "pretty" maps, not for the bloody pug
Unfortunately hangout house is pretty unoptimized as well
Seems like maps are either unoptimized or 99% non-English
thorny totem
@near saffron that's the whole point of Occlusion...you see what you're suppose to see...if you look at it, it's not supposed to be occluded...
got it?
median basalt
There's a difference
I don't think he's talking about Unity's native occlusion culling, there's a similar technique using triggers that can actually disable parts of the map entirely
I've seen it done in Touhou Station, for example. It's the main cause for a lot of those "respawning spawns you in an endless void" bugs.
ivory folio
Yeah thats what I meant, forgot the culling part
thorny totem
yeah we got the idea Moons ;)
near saffron
Yeah I was thinking it as that way. But I get what youโre saying
thorny totem
Why using something else when O.C is optimized for that?
as far as i know they are using every trick, batching, OC, baked light
median basalt
Because using both can give you performance increases
But in this case it's probably not the lack of culling
Since the map's "source" is private we can't really say for sure what's causing it. I know for a fact that the Pug has a lot of mixed lights, which will severely impact performance depending on the amount of players
Can't he just make all lights Baked?
thorny totem
create an empty instance and check by yourself, not much lag at all, appart from the mirror area
median basalt
It's definitely laggier than other maps
I'm getting 45 FPS with two people, most other maps give me 90
My CPU is pretty bad but it's a good comparison
near saffron
Yeah if I go into a 20+ Pug Iโll be lucky to get 40 frames
median basalt
If the pug has mixed lights, the performance decreases will also get worse with every player added, making it easy to say "oh, it's just the players and laggy avatars XDDD"
40 frames in a 20+ pug? Christ, that's actually a lot
You must be on Vive or WMR and have a pretty good CPU then
In a 20+ pug with avatars blocked, I get 20 FPS total
near saffron
Most of the time in busy rooms Iโm jumping between 15-30
Nah Iโm oculus. Someone told me not having the oculus app running in the background helps frames but Iโve never tested if itโs true but I do it anyway
median basalt
Ah
I disabled the Oculus app and it made little difference
And once Rift Core 2.0 is released to everyone, you won't be able to disable Home anyway.
I'm pretty sure that disabling Oculus Home will make the tracking slightly more CPU-intensive so it's not even a net gain
I was just as laggy as ever
thorny totem
seriously the only time my perf drop is when Mr lookatme trigger his last fancy particles and animations and other Mrs heyIgot 1000 giggly bones cases, other than that it's ok, for the quality of the map i mean (details, features, size etc)
you can't disable Home since the 1.7 if i'm not wrong @median basalt
tacit plank
There's that semi-new catgirl avatar with white paw gloves and very blue eyes. Does anyone know which avatar world it's from?
median basalt
@thorny totem I'm on the latest non-2.0 version and I can disable it, although I need to use an exploit to do so
I need to set the Oculus software to run as admin
Particles aren't even that laggy as long as there aren't too many
I've seen people with literally 1 million billboards that lagged like hell because they all had collision and stuff
Dynamic bones and material counts are usually the biggest killers
At least Tupper gives the right example in his tutorial
thorny totem
@median basalt exploit? you mean the admin trick? it doesn't work anymore since the 1.7 at all
as soon as steam start Home start with it. Without home the HMD is not even detected. Worked with the older version (1.6 and older)
median basalt
Oh, then I'm mistaken. I must be on 1.6 then
thorny totem
yes it worked with the 1.6
Oculus doesn't like you playing with your stuff without home...they want you to spend some time in it...and have a look at the shiny Store to spend some money :)
Personnaly i hate that thing...
charred scroll
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5484 users in VRChat currently
median basalt
Yeah
I would regret getting an Oculus but the hand controllers seem better than anything else by far
Triggering gestures using a touchpad sounds irritating
I don't like touchpads anyway so the control sticks are super, super nice.
ruby needle
why regret
median basalt
Because
I have a bad CPU and Oculus' tracking is the most CPU intensive of them all. Although I'm getting a new CPU soon so that might be a moot point.
The other thing is that you have to stay in their walled garden
Which means always having Oculus home running since it doesn't support SteamVR natively, unlike literally any other headset
Excited for StarVR though
Not that I'd be getting it
median basalt
I wish this game supported the Oculus API so I'd lag less
ruby needle
soon(tn)
median basalt
Oh, really? I thought you didn't need to have SteamVR running if the game itself supported it
thorny totem
yes the touch controllers are pretty good, i had a vive before, no comparaisons. But soon with the knuckles everything will change
ruby needle
well...
thorny totem
Vrchat is coming soon in Oculus home, the native support with it i guess
ruby needle
how soon unfortunately is unknown but the faster the better
thorny totem
$100000 answer i suppose :)
let's ping Tupper :D
let's speculate then, i would say 5 months, because it's a good number
ruby needle
at least some when this year
--- thats the promise 
but yeah... if its dezember its still this year
vocal shard
Happy 2018th birthday America!
thorny totem
oh right it's the 4th of July
inner cape
Earth is 2018 y/o
thorny totem
but 2018th is a bit much :P i think
ivory folio
merry christmas americaland ๐ท๐บ
thorny totem
here come the divided by 0, Moons version
thorny totem
you'll upset a lot of Americans saying that lol
ivory folio
๐คทโโ๏ธ
thorny totem
well it not all about the colors :), there is some stars too, also the way colors are interlaced, the pattern
a lot of thoughts and idea behind it
i feel like the ready player one librarian right now, erfff
warm geode
Why is there a limit on Favourite worlds?
Why not save them client-sided so we can just have "as much as we want". that way we can even share our favourite worlds somehow through a file.
inner cape
Account linked data is stored on the servers, thus the limit 
true sky
yesterday me and my brother got hit by 1 parachute men rockets
good thing they dont do much ๐คท
ebon shard
dunno why you'd need more than 32 favorited worlds, at that point you're better off just looking through the normal world menu
warm geode
well, imagine the menu being redone so everything can be searched better and there's 1 million worlds, and u like 100 of them
xP
ivory folio
why would we crash ๐ค
vocal shard
new game take a shot every time someone crashes
if we all crashed together the game would be dead since 2017
shy nest
I feel like you'd get more drunk doing that with people asking how long till they can upload
proven veldt
Anyone know of some worlds with fireworks? I wanna watch some with some pals
ivory folio
there are a couple good firework worlds
versed gust
rustic galleon
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5434 users in VRChat currently
rustic galleon
How long do you have to wait to be able to customize avatar?
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account by accident because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
vocal shard
takes shot
vocal shard
depends
do you have concrete evidence that they crash people (videos, testimonies from other people, witnessess)?
coral steppe
well, they crashed my pc, i had to restart it
vocal shard
how do you know that it wasn't a pc problem
if you didnt launch vrchat again, you can grab the ouput log and send it to the vrchat team
coral steppe
and i have a picture of them doing that to another person
vocal shard
"Please post all moderation reports at this link -> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScy051RCaR0BRe8JPiWpfAgYlAf-VyunKVTm14Q4YMZPY3jDQ/viewform?usp=sf_link
New guidelines on videos/images posted to moderation reports form -
"Reports will not be responded to. They will be reviewed by the VRChat moderation team. Only unlisted YouTube videos or photos on imgur, tinypic, photobucket, flickr, google photos will be looked at."
Another new guideline for moderation reports - All videos need to be at least 2 minutes and show context for the situation. Also need to show nametags of person reporting clearly."
you dont post here
we are not your personal army or anyone elses'
vocal shard
output log gives information from when you logged on till you crashed
everything you did and everyone who was in the room
and every room you visited
if someone crashed you, its in the output log
i dont remember the command dammit
coral steppe
where can i find it?
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
vocal shard
clicking the link will take you to a forum
where you input your info
click and drag the output log to the last answer, see if it works
if not put it on google docs or a txt hosting site and paste the link in the last answer
coral steppe
i would have to past the link, directly posting doesnt work
vocal shard
yeah
coral steppe
thank you, it was helpful
coral steppe
what kind of information can they gather from that file?
mainly, how will they determin who caused the crash
fading wolf
So
avatar stealing is a thing now huh
had two guys steal my avatar in a server
t w i c e
fading wolf
well i found out about it yesterday
glacial reef
it will wipe them from having it
glacial reef
grab the logs report them โค
fading wolf
ye
nah but they could also change their username
cause this guy had a steam id behind his username
but could still just change avatars
glacial reef
Struggles of free games
tacit plank
Checksums can do that
glacial reef
Long process of getting a company or spending mad $$$ into programming a anti-cheat system that can consistently check files for tampering and instant kick and or ban players who do it
tacit plank
That's a local protection though
glacial reef
no anti hack/cheat system = manual ban labor
tacit plank
This one should be fixable, though
umbral reef
Almost all anti hacking things that are client side can be bypassed without a problem- Might take some time or tries but it always gets bypassed
So just throwing a file check is uuu...
fading wolf
true
tacit plank
Yeah, and the current file checking seems to have false positives
tacit plank
When somebody changes avatar, the server should confirm that it exists as a pedestal in the current world before downloading it
Of course, this might require the server to make an index of all avatar pedestals or worlds first
umbral reef
Bind avatar id's towards account id's
For pedestal avatars you provide a diffrent type of avatar id that shows its open use
fading wolf
^
umbral reef
Why would that not work 
umbral reef
Might be lots of work but so far my tired ass brain can check it should be fairly fool proof
tacit plank
That would work, but if you make a pedestal and then remove it again, the ID still exists
fading wolf
but you'd see that the ID isn't currently in use
tacit plank
The server knowing which pedestals are in which worlds is probably better in the long run
fading wolf
so if someone uses an avatar with that ID, you could know it's not allowed
glacial reef
well whats funny about the ID's is you can't just take one from unity and upload it to another account without first detaching the previous ID, so why the same system isn't inside the game for when someone steals the avatar and notices the ID x2 it should instantly kick whoever just pulled it
fading wolf
that's too much work for skiddies
hasty wedge
umbral reef
Qbiug, if its to much effort for kids to use the cursed as shit websited thats click and upload for unity
they will not be assed to use a tool to do that but with evne more extra steps
glacial reef
on a side note, why can't I use my blueyeti microphone as my audio source anymore (headphones plugged in through it)
hasty wedge
u could mess up ur avatar and make it normal with a shapekey which could prevent the model from being ripped
tacit plank
At least, making avatar stealing more difficult would mean less avatars stolen
fading wolf
maybe don't plug headphones int oa microphone
tacit plank
And less work for the admins
glacial reef
it works with everything else and worked fine with VRchat forever
but now it doesn't
glacial reef
mad salty because I use my headphones through my yeti
fading wolf
lmao
fading wolf
oh
glacial reef
other wise i'm playing deaf basically
glacial reef
because i would have to go through the process of changing everything
fading wolf
just plug the headphones into the pc
glacial reef
to my PC output device
fading wolf
plug the mic in
glacial reef
and PC tends to give nasty feedback
glacial reef
the buzzing noise
glacial reef
crap soundcard with the motherboard that is old as me
fading wolf
oh god
glacial reef
not really but still
fading wolf
yeah there's your problem lmfao
just
get a normal microphone
you can bet a BM-800 for 30 bucks
and it's great
glacial reef
ew
glacial reef
studio quality mics or i cry
ruby needle
BM-800 for 30 bucks 
inner cape
I heard BM?
ruby needle
they go for 15
glacial reef
i heard its free
ruby needle
and not its not studio quality at all
glacial reef
Kappa
fading wolf
don't make me recall numbers?
thorny totem
@glacial reef voicemeeter your next best friend, google it :)
ruby needle
but they are usable
inner cape
glacial reef
I have it @thorny totem
fading wolf
did you see Roomies video?
fading wolf
using a model basically identical to the BM 800
against the most expensive mic out there
fading wolf
the BM-800 did really well
glacial reef
I watched all his comparision videos
fading wolf
and sometimes better
ruby needle
its an ok mic with a good price ration
fading wolf
well, not a BM-800 but it looks and sounds the same
if you couple it with an audio interface, it's just amazing tbh
thorny totem
@glacial reef create a cable for each then plus one feeback
ruby needle
but it's far from good and studio quality ๐
fading wolf
did
cold talon
Rly ghost 
fading wolf
It sometimes did better than the most expensive mic out there.
glacial reef
@thorny totem might work, i'll have to try
fading wolf
depends on what you're doing with it
thorny totem
@glacial reef it ll work
fading wolf
so it's great if you want to play music on vrchat
inner cape
@cold talon imma ping you, what?
fading wolf
and it's better than a usb mic
ruby needle
a video shows nothing. who knows how much after processing went into it
fading wolf
Look
I use it
It sounds great
lol
also, he did comparisons unprocessed, and processed
glacial reef
when need smellivision
cold talon
glacial reef
change my mind
fading wolf
We need all senses for VR.
ruby needle
as i said. it is an ok mic and does its job better then you would expect.
cold talon
Smellivision ๐
inner cape
Hair tracking when
fading wolf
^^^
glacial reef
toe tracking where you at
fading wolf
where is taste tracking
vocal shard
@ruby needle
ruby needle
but if you know what you are doing and listening for its night and day for real quality mics
cold talon
Actually could be kinda possible
inner cape
Tongue tracking 
cold talon
The hair traking
glacial reef
Surgery to have sensors put in my body hello?
fading wolf
we want more tracking
umbral reef
Having sensors inside your skin 
cold talon
Nah that would be inefficient
rapid heath
smellivision and other similar senses are too abusable: and I'm not talking about some simple trolling - imagine some sick ppl inflicting physical pain on you with full anonymity?
glacial reef
yolo
cold talon
Use reflective material as constelation tracking
fading wolf
where is my VR headset that makes me sleep
glacial reef
use axe body spray
cold talon
Or that ^
ruby needle
wont happen
fading wolf
I refuse to use Axe
umbral reef
@rapid heath Giving users to much control over those things is stupid
But for other games, treatment or alike its awesome
cold talon
Oof
fading wolf
I am not using the same deodorant as Chris
umbral reef
Not everything has to be a VRC thing
thorny totem
@rapid heath you have some twisted imagination if i may hmmm
cold talon
But axe will get you in the game
glacial reef
unlimited POWAHHHHH
fading wolf
it is for straight men, no gays pls
-Chris
rapid heath
I'm a sadist but not a masochist @thorny totem, I would think these things through
fading wolf
Sadism is best ism
thorny totem
@rapid heath yea i knew that already
cold talon
nosulus
umbral reef
So always thinking of the worse possible result of things is machoism?
cold talon
Nan
rapid heath
no, lul
umbral reef
Ok good 
umbral reef
Trust me bahka not everyone does that
cold talon
Oh 
umbral reef
If you give me a machine the first thing that pops into my mind is "How can i abuse this thing or break it"
cold talon
Umm yes
umbral reef
Meanwhile one of my friends goes more like "How can i use this things to do that other thing"
cold talon
That sums it up pretty well 
inner cape
Fite them
upbeat portal
When i press the Build and Publish button, its says : you have to spend more times !
How can i fix that
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account by accident because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
aka... literally waht the message tells you
spend... more... time....
upbeat portal
how to i link the vr chat account to steam
vocal shard
tfw made an alt with a . On my name and took me 2 days
cold talon
hasty wedge
inner cape
umbral reef
@inner cape You guys dont like my music so 
vocal shard
Reminder having a unicoded name is useless now
ruby needle
you can't @upbeat portal
inner cape
Mkay
upbeat portal
@ruby needle What do i do?
vocal shard
Making your name blank is just going to make you a big target
hasty wedge
inner cape
What space?
hasty wedge
cold talon
Better
ruby needle
@hasty wedge (1)
inner cape
@hasty wedge
thorny totem
@hasty wedge how do i click your link? :)
cold talon
hasty wedge
inner cape
ruby needle
๐ 
hasty wedge
cold talon
@hasty wedge what do pings do?
hasty wedge
inner cape
hasty wedge
this is just the beginning
just wait till u see random @ s in random hours for the next 2 days
inner cape
I'll still love you bcz you're my child 
cold talon
At that moment bahka knew
He fuked up
http://imgur.com/b6buHUd
hasty wedge
vocal shard
time to take another shot
hasty wedge
LOL
vocal shard
Shut up
cold talon
inner cape
vocal shard
you can run vrchat on a processor two generations older than the minimum requirements
and get 20 fps
hasty wedge
the requirements are for VR
inner cape
1 core btw
hasty wedge
inner cape
hasty wedge
1 core ๐
inner cape
ruby needle
iGPU 
umbral reef
Can i run VRC on half a core 
vocal shard
with no dx11 support
hasty wedge
LOL
vocal shard
i got a solid 20 fps alone
ruby needle
hasty wedge
is hardware acceleration on Kappa ?
umbral reef
@hasty wedge Gotta give it 230 directly, cut the PSU out
hasty wedge
cold talon
Dx12 and you blazing
vocal shard
#squadgoals
umbral reef
Also while doing it just use one hand, makes the 230v feel a lot less bad
Trust me
Sadly that aitn even sarcasm
To both things
cold talon
Can confirm
vocal shard
also for some reason if you happen to own a geforce 310m
using the dx12 might make you feel like the fps is higher
and cuts mirror lag
ruby needle
310m
vocal shard
but its unconfirmed i need to test it more
cold talon
Hah than ill use dx13
cold talon
oh god
ruby needle
and SM 4.1
cold talon
Big oof
signal wren
So Removeing the ID for your avataer will no longer work for those that want to take it
they copy it take the ID then make their own copy
Then they can keep it forever
signal wren
LOL
cold talon
Got em
hasty wedge
not if they only have the id
signal wren
The Peer to Peer thing is a really bad choice to be honest
hasty wedge
he ded
cold talon
inner cape
Crash particles btw
vocal shard
They only emmit 3000 each
inner cape
Just a mere 3k each
vocal shard
The circle of c4s i set on tupper xd
cold talon
Oof
inner cape
How many bombs are there?
vocal shard
100
vocal shard
He had particle limiter on xd
inner cape
In blender ofc
vocal shard
Really hard particle system to explain to begginers
cold talon
Im offended
I was curious if they were spawned on collision or remotely thru an emote
median basalt
AFAIK it's basically just an emote that enables the emission module of the system
It uses subemitters to spawn an explosion on death
indigo fern
ye, i remember seeing it on a batgirl(?) or something
inner cape
Rokk, ya ignored me earlier today 
Or just didn't see my msg.
Nvm
Actually ignoring.
median basalt
Wot?
@inner cape I have most channels set on mute so I have no idea what you're referring to
inner cape
Aaah
charred scroll
people trying to crash potential devs/admins e.e are those looking to get banned?
inner cape
I'll just copy paste my msg into your dms
vocal shard
Yes cuz they dont care cuz they can ban evade xd
charred scroll
cause vrchat doesnt have ip ban and vpns are a thing e.e
charred scroll
yep
vocal shard
Which i clearly don't understand
ebon shard
why not ban them to the shadow realm
charred scroll
where do you think those guys come from?
vocal shard
Why tf you playing a game where you social interact with players when you're just going around crashing people when the player can just get back on in 5 seconds
ebon shard
???
ebon shard
you just lift it up, close the crashed vrchat and reload with steam
vocal shard
Lmao never happened to me xd
ebon shard
it doesnt do anything to steam vr
ornate topaz
is there a way i can use a vrchat login and not steam
ebon shard
yes
charred scroll
well, for vr its potato
vocal shard
Lmao disable particles
charred scroll
then it WILL
ebon shard
๐ค
charred scroll
@vocal shard that was back when you couldnt do that
ebon shard
then you just have to turn the controllers back on
vocal shard
Xd
charred scroll
is running along vrchat
ebon shard
yes
ebon shard
no it doesnt
charred scroll
it basicly looks for the most performance eating things
aka, vrchat then steamvr and finally oculus app
and terminates those
ebon shard
???
ebon shard
youre spawning a fuckton of particles how does that purposely terminate steam vr