#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 453

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:25 AM

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guess I'm never getting in the super secret club of "professional vr enthusiasts"

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uh

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dunno?

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:26 AM

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sincerely full body tracking is overrated in VRchat unless you the guy dancing all day ;)

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IK do a great job

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:26 AM

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what if I say my only capabilities are WMR if I sell a kidney

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people always crap on WMR because tracking

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but I'm really admiring the Samsung odyssey

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oj

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i might get a Lenovo explorer too, its gone wireless

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:28 AM

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the odyssey is quite good actually

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:28 AM

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actually the Lenovo beat the vive to it??

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🤔

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yeah, through tpcast

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but

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tpcast isn't compatible with WMR

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they said they'll add support

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but idk when

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"we support all mainstream headsets, Oculus, Vive, and WMR!"
"what about the Samsung Odyssey?"
"That's Samsung not WMR."
"...but Samsung Odyssey is WMR."

"yeah"

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i have a large covered balcony that's roughly the size of a small one bedroom apartment

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space isn't an issue but I need something to track it

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ik

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which is why I have thick curtains

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its covered

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has a roof

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walls

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only counts as a balcony because it's off limits

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humidity is a foreign concept to me

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which happens when you live in the desert

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it is a room just with glass windows

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which double as walls

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orig balcony which is airy

upgraded with glass walls

then upgraded with roof

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it just

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you see

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most my stuff is inherited

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:38 AM

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because glass walls =P

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:38 AM

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as in the home

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the place

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the land which I want to sell

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all belong to my father who inherited it from his grandfather

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i have an error that my avatar isnt uploading does anyone have a fix?

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now he doesnt have money of his own sadly

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it's all in the form of property

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yes but

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what do you do when you live under minimum wage

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have an image to upkeep

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and stuff to get?

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sacrifices have to be made

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i want it to be

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yet I have a dense father

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if you understand how I feel

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you think I wouldnt upload my brain to the web

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:42 AM

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@vocal shard I have a car, can you change the tires? (normally come the questions, sure which car, what size etc) you're too vague

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:42 AM

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id do it in a heartbeat

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it's just

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I'm still undeage legally

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and the land choice isn't really mine

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I'm just going to get some of the money

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and I want it to upgrade my stuff

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it's not my job, my father's pension.

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and it goes in his bank account

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:43 AM

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not much related to vrchat right?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:43 AM

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mother's pension also goes in her bank account

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yeah we can take it to #general-media

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i wish bro

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i wish

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:44 AM

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thanks

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one asked a question about the game but got passed

tame walrus Jun 17, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Can I ask about a name change for VRChat?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Yeah

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Support@vrchat.com i think

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Put your old name and ask them a for a new name

nocturne stream Jun 17, 2018, 4:23 AM

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has someone played that map with the fireworks on the boats because there should be a ghiost boat with event

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does anyone know how to trigger it

inner cape Jun 17, 2018, 4:31 AM

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Become a ghost.

vital bramble Jun 17, 2018, 4:35 AM

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is anyone else's vrchat loading super slow right now

minor gate Jun 17, 2018, 5:20 AM

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im asking for a friend

atomic vortex Jun 17, 2018, 6:10 AM

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Does VRChat support more vr headsets or only one?

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:36 AM

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@atomic vortex Lenovo, Windows MR, Vive and Oculus all work that I know of

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I'm sure it supports all VR

ebon crane Jun 17, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Could i bother anyone to load a model for me? i dont have enough hours to upload it myself

ancient kayak Jun 17, 2018, 6:54 AM

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can someone help me with hiding name tag?

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do i need to create a box above head and put invisible shader as the box's material?

idle cipher Jun 17, 2018, 7:05 AM

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won't hiding your name from everyone get you banned?

atomic vortex Jun 17, 2018, 7:20 AM

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Everytime I start up VRChat, the point of view keeps turning, the only solution I figured out is to quit vrchat, turn on my xbox 360 controller, and restart vrchat.

ancient kayak Jun 17, 2018, 8:06 AM

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How can I meet Tupper in game?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 8:17 AM

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why do you want to meet tupper ? 🤔

ancient kayak Jun 17, 2018, 8:29 AM

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is Tupper a goD?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 8:32 AM

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he is everything we need.

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He fixes "everything" we throw at em

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 8:35 AM

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Somehow Tupper's Status turned green =D

ancient kayak Jun 17, 2018, 8:36 AM

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which one is him? http://prntscr.com/jvvo0r

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 8:36 AM

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it's Tupper

tacit plank Jun 17, 2018, 9:30 AM

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Anybody who likes Cirno can only be a good person

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How do I get the tags: ""system_legend","admin_avatar_access","admin_world_access""?
My friends seemed to get them automatically when they uploaded a world, but I'm still without them so I'm curious

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 11:13 AM

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Cirno is overrated, fite me

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She's a minor character that does basically nothing

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She's a midboss in PCB but isn't even mentioned by name

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:14 AM

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cirNo that is the wrong opinion

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she's stupid, and cute

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cirBaka

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 11:15 AM

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I think Rumia fits that role better

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:17 AM

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cirNo

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 11:18 AM

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So many great 2hus and people pick that :^)

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How many Cirno emotes do you have lol

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:19 AM

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cirThink

quiet prawn Jun 17, 2018, 11:20 AM

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cirbaka

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:22 AM

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cirWut cirThree cirThink cirTan cirSlain cirShades cirSanta cirREE cirPrise cirPls cirPalm cirNo cirMini cirKiss cirHi cirHappy cirGreed cirGPantsu cirGasm cirFairy cirCop cirComfy cirBlind cirBlech cirBell cirLPantsu cirLove cirLewd cirLaugh cirBar cirBaka Some

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 11:37 AM

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That's not enough

shell dagger Jun 17, 2018, 11:40 AM

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YELLS

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Will I get kicked if I keep going?

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:46 AM

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So if I understand corrently, if I just log in through steam I will never be approved for using my own avatars?

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:46 AM

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no you wont

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Well poop.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Steam is basically a guest account

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Ah well. I haven't really made any friends yet so I guess I can start over outside of steam/download the non steam version.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Switching to a VRChat accont as soon as possible is always recomendet

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Really (O_0)...?

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:48 AM

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what i would recommend is creating your new vrchat account and goint to your friends in your steam account telling them to add your new one

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then switch after a day or two

shell dagger Jun 17, 2018, 11:48 AM

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That's a good way of putting it hmm

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:48 AM

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I thought I was using a VRChat account, actually. Since I went to the site and made an account/used it to log in. But I'm guessing logging into it through steam is a waste.

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Well, not a waste, but not getting me anywhere.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:48 AM

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nope it really is a guest account

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Lame.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:49 AM

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unfortunately there is not real info on the limitation during signing where you can choose

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Yeah, I read up top that the method is hidden to prevent abuse.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:49 AM

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no

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i mean that when you pick the steam account on the login screen

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you dont get any info that you will be limited in functionallity

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Ah. Yeah.

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So do I just need to go to the VRChat website and download the regular client, make my login stuff, log in, and from there just be active and eventually I will escape the realm of unoriginality?

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:52 AM

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no you still play trough steam

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just dont use the steam login

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:52 AM

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I am lost.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:53 AM

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you download and run the game trough steam

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but when you start it you get two options to sign in

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VRChat Account or Steam Login

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the second is the bad one

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Oh. Fart. Yeah I remember that.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:53 AM

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you can sign out ingame trough your system menue and then sign in with a vrchat account

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Alright. Thank you.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:53 AM

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np cirComfy

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 11:54 AM

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I actually was logged in correctly at first. Then I got crashed by somebody and used Steam. And that's when I noticed those random letters and numbers next to my name.

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Or at least I believe that is what happened.

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Or rather I was crashed in-game and it brought back up the login screen.

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 11:55 AM

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yeah that is when you use a steam account

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 12:19 PM

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No

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They looked into it, but eventually no

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Gods, the cliques and the crashers are going strong tonight.

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Today/tonight. Didn't see the time.

inner cape Jun 17, 2018, 1:21 PM

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vrcblocked

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 1:22 PM

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I hate cliques ... if you want to have a private chat alone with your friends, don't make a public room.

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:22 PM

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I hate people that have friends

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 1:22 PM

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Reminds me of the old days in AOL.

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:22 PM

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meguAngry

grave mesa Jun 17, 2018, 1:23 PM

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They do suck, don't they?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Not where they should illyaTriggered

inner cape Jun 17, 2018, 1:23 PM

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wants a private chat
creates public
complains

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Wat

polar elm Jun 17, 2018, 1:53 PM

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vrclove

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:28 PM

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the request mod option is vague, doesnt even tell you when the mod will be there or if the mod has received the message

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just that it had been reported

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~~also my inner typo freak is losing her shit over "mode game"~~

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 2:31 PM

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dont ping admins for non urgend matter.

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:31 PM

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yeah

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specially the peak mod

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Just use #moderation-reports or use moderation@vrchat.com

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:32 PM

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don't ping him because you are mad at a knuckles

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 2:32 PM

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it is a free game in a early alpha stage. if you want to invest some money so they can get more personal then do it cirBaka

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:33 PM

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it just has a player base thats 50% good players and 25% cringy kids, 25% script kiddies

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:33 PM

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Urgent as racist guy? Ezpz report
Particel stuff? Block and report
Someone dying? Well its urgent then

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:34 PM

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no I haven't heard of the spagett client

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unless you touched it

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Also more mods does not mean it goes faster or better...
They need to be trusted with the tools and also need to be checked themself

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Then say what it is 😂

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:34 PM

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then tell us already what it was

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damn

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like come on you pinged vrpill and all he'll see is you whining about no mods

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then you don't need to tell the mod

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deal with it

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Then make an canny.io post

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:36 PM

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didnt you hear him

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he "doesn't trust you guys"

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Also if you refuse to be helped by anyone but staff your gonna have a hard life

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:36 PM

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mods are people like us

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Most often users within these type of discord know things even better then mods

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Like with avatars and maps

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:37 PM

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just with more privileged and responsibilities

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Aww, we have a self-grammar Nazi :3 by that I mean @vocal shard

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you think if you go all gung ho on us it'll help you

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it wont

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Dont play early acess games then GWnanamiAmatsukazeFloat

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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what

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did you just literally

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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Also maps are user made
Not staff made

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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request a mod

ivory spoke Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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Early Access was a mistake vineHard

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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because your gpu is shit????

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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what GPU do you have?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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doesn't matter

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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what model is it..

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:38 PM

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some people will always have better

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and it won't run on yours

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connection problems sounds like

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Check the drivers
Check background stuff

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 2:39 PM

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is it so hard to answere the simple question?

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:40 PM

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@ruby needle we are not staff so we are not smart :^)

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:40 PM

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you seem pretty intent on the idea script kiddies are hunting you...

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yet you blame everythin on hacked clients?

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Didn't you say it was super personal? Lmao

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any client that's not the offical client is a hacked client

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oh but I'm not staff

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 2:41 PM

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Any non official client can get ya banned btw

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 2:41 PM

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I'm a stupid person

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/s

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Peace my dude

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remember to tell the mods if it was really important

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through dms or email

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who cares it's your call

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Just use #moderation-reports or use moderation@vrchat.com

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it's 2018 the internet is filled with secure means

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But those secure means can be easly cracked

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you just listed two

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So?

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I wasn't referring to em

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inem?

humble marsh Jun 17, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Hey people 😃

plain plover Jun 17, 2018, 4:24 PM

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yo

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 5:02 PM

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How are you so sure they know nothing 👀

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 5:44 PM

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»THE PASTA«

“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”

“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling wont help.”

“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”

“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident because you will be treated as a guest”

“Play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

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When was this implemented into the game?

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Less than a month ago

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Ahhh, I never noticed it

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Probably because I've had my vr account for months already

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Are you a usual player?

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Yeah, I play almost daily with my friends

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Then you are alright to go

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Not this weekend though

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I was worried because it seems like people have only started complaining like 1 or 2 days ago

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Once you pass the acceptance limit, you don't need to usually play

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Oh, no no, this has been going for weeks

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Ahh okay

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I need to keep up with the news lol

quiet prawn Jun 17, 2018, 5:55 PM

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Be a super casual.

young ridge Jun 17, 2018, 5:56 PM

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Do anyone know why i can't use my graphic/drawing tablet in the game??

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 5:56 PM

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@quiet prawn hit us with the Cirnos!

young ridge Jun 17, 2018, 5:57 PM

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like i can use it to press left mouse button but not move the cam

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 5:58 PM

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I wouldn't know I just use my regular phone

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I've never had a problem with my drawing/graphic monitor though

young ridge Jun 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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i'm using the tablet/pad without screen

quiet prawn Jun 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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No?

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rinismirk

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 6:14 PM

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I think I found a turnip

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For my avatar

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tanabae

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:49 PM

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Hey guys

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where can I find my outputlog.txt

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:49 PM

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!outputlog

floral flaxBOT Jun 17, 2018, 6:49 PM

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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:50 PM

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AppData folder will be hidden unless you've changed that setting in control panel

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:50 PM

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So do I copy paste that file path into like the run

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the run program

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Or will get removed if you re-login into the game

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Ohh I found it

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Okay so do I just send a copy of output.log to mods

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:52 PM

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you can email it to them

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or if you're using it to report someone, you can include it in the moderation report form

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Okay my friend is the one who got crashed

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They haven't exited the crash part

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But they can't find it after pasting that in the run program

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:54 PM

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have they searched for it manually?

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Well idk how to search for it manually

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:55 PM

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C:\Users\your username here\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Ok

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:55 PM

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there'll be a text file there

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:55 PM

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let me try

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:55 PM

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type that path into the top of windows explorer

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if your appdata folder is hidden

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 6:58 PM

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It can't be found idk why

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he hasn't re-logged

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 6:59 PM

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is there anything in that folder?

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inside that folder, there should be another folder called vrchat and then the output log: vrchat;output_log.txt

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:01 PM

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In appdata?

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:01 PM

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in LocalLow/VRChat

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https://i.imgur.com/r7Tnj18.png

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:02 PM

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Yea I'm able to find it easy on mine

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But he can't for some reason

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:02 PM

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hmm

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can he find appdata at all?

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:03 PM

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Yea he can

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but he doesn't find local low in there

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LocalLow

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:03 PM

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thats strange

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has he moved the folder elsewhere?

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:03 PM

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Maybe a new hack or something

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:03 PM

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because you shouldn't touch anything in appdata

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:03 PM

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No he just installed everything normally

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It's in his c drive

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He never heard of appdata either

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So I'm guessing he has never messed with it

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:04 PM

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does he have Local and Roaming folders in AppData?

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Roaming I think

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Screw it he just gonna close it

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Was too much trouble to find it

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:07 PM

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strange that he doesn't have those folders though

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that might cause problems with other programs on his pc

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Rip

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 7:08 PM

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Can he verify the integrity of his game cache

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Actually that might not help

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Dunno what that means but he just closed everything already

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he took a screenshot though

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432370357329068048/457982278891601960/JPEG_20180617_145800.jpg

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:15 PM

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can he send a screenshot of inside his AppData

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:17 PM

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He didn't want to do it anymore

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:17 PM

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oh ok

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Yea he got irritated with it lol

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I got crashed too

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:17 PM

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he should have all 3 of those folders in appdata though

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that's not a vrchat issue, that's a pc issue

arctic cradle Jun 17, 2018, 7:18 PM

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Ok I just got crashed too

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So I have2 outputlog.txt files

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Where do I send those

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:20 PM

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support@vrchat.com I think

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unless you know who did it, then you can fill in the form in #moderation-reports and upload your file to pastebin or something and provide the link where it asks for evidence

little rune Jun 17, 2018, 7:21 PM

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How long do I have to wait to post custom avatars that I made in Unity/want to use ingame?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 7:32 PM

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3 STEPS TO UPLOAD AVATARS TO VRCHAT:

STEP A - Play the game. PLAY the game. Don't idle. Don't leave it open. Don't mute everyone by default. Interact and talk to people. takes about 24 - 40 hours, which is the reported estimate.

STEP B - Wait for verification over E-mail/In-Game notification.

STEP C - Don't come back to us for questions about it, we know as much as you do about the trust system.

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 7:34 PM

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copy pasta, the sequel

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 7:39 PM

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How to complain about a player for stealing my avatar?

tacit plank Jun 17, 2018, 7:41 PM

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#moderation-reports

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 7:43 PM

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@little rune
»THE PASTA«

“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”

“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling wont help.”

“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”

“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident because you will be treated as a guest”

“Play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

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@vocal shard that is such a vague one

languid beacon Jun 17, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Has anyone noticed VRChat closing itself out when you take off your headset and idle?

worldly vapor Jun 17, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Never had that, I’ve been afk for 30 min before and not closing

north axle Jun 17, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Same, and I've been AFK for countless hours.

little rune Jun 17, 2018, 7:58 PM

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@vocal shard I've seen it already, but still thanks😊

magic osprey Jun 17, 2018, 8:01 PM

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So, I just got a message on my account, which states, You now have access to the custom world system. But I still have no access to Private Avatars or Uploading content?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 8:02 PM

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You have passed the acceptance limit

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Lord try logging into the VRC website
And if that fails just reimport the SDK

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 8:03 PM

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But can go to #moderation-reports or moderation@vrchat.com for your problem

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:03 PM

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That might trigger the check i you have passed for you

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 8:04 PM

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are avatars and worlds separate in the trust system?

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 8:05 PM

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not currently

magic osprey Jun 17, 2018, 8:10 PM

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To whoever told me to log out and in

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You were right.

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Sorry for jumping the gun

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:10 PM

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GWoooKarenSugoi

magic osprey Jun 17, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Thank you Oclac

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100 Pizzas to you.

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:11 PM

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As this dutch person likes to say
The Belgian reset is the best tech support tool

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 8:11 PM

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that is a long emote name blobsweats

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:11 PM

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You thanking me makes me happy enough so no need ;p

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GWowoKannaGun Got something against the emotes

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 8:12 PM

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nod

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 8:28 PM

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Just wanna give kudos to the VRC devs for properly accommodating all VR customization options.

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Just had to refund another VR shooter because left-handed mode swaps the control sticks.

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And it had no smooth turning at all.

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Meanwhile, this game works really well no matter your handedness, and offers a lot of different locomotion options

tacit plank Jun 17, 2018, 8:32 PM

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I wouldn't call it "a lot", but it's definitely easy to get used to. VRChat is solid in that area (there are a few gesture glitches but I think steamVR can take the blame for them)
Sometimes I want to do the peace sign IRL and start searching for a button with my thumb, amazing.

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:32 PM

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Its often like some game devs to not test there games at all or cant even think of things that most users want

hasty wedge Jun 17, 2018, 8:33 PM

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when ur trying to log off irl but remember theres no log off button feelsnepman 🔫

tacit plank Jun 17, 2018, 8:33 PM

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IRL isn't that bad. It's just a rather difficult video game

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:33 PM

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There is kinda

hasty wedge Jun 17, 2018, 8:34 PM

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no thats the uninstall button

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animesweat

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Ow you said irl GWtogaTheSaddest

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I cant read

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Well you could count a coma as a temp logg off?

hasty wedge Jun 17, 2018, 8:34 PM

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🤔

tacit plank Jun 17, 2018, 8:35 PM

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I think it's a overflow in Thread.sleep()

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Or underflow, I suppose

lethal meteor Jun 17, 2018, 8:39 PM

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Delete account 🤔

vital badger Jun 17, 2018, 8:52 PM

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BSOD IRL = murder?

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or

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traffic crash?

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Eh, maybe the game doesn't have "a lot" of movement options

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But it has proper smooth movement and it has teleport, which is good enough IMO

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There are so many games out there that still buy into the "literally everyone is motion sick" myth

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So they don't offer smooth turning

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Or it's a shooter with main and and offhand and they swap the ducking control sticks in left handed mode vrpill

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Jun 17, 2018, 9:22 PM

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There are 5566 users in VRChat currently

vital holly Jun 17, 2018, 9:28 PM

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just thought is there any way to suggest something for vrchat?

vital badger Jun 17, 2018, 9:31 PM

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no, devs only do what they want (SARCASM)

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jk idk

vital holly Jun 17, 2018, 9:32 PM

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uh ok

hasty wedge Jun 17, 2018, 9:32 PM

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the canny but it won't ever get into the game atleast not until 3 years later

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laffeyDrink

vital holly Jun 17, 2018, 9:32 PM

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oh just noticed #feature-requests

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oh god

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im blind

languid beacon Jun 17, 2018, 9:37 PM

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I think I’m going to do the oculus + Vive trackers thing. Has anybody here tried it but had a bad experiences with it?

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Hello

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Can you make best friends in VR chat

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👀

languid beacon Jun 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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I will be your best friend

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... for money

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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No thx

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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@languid beacon I think you need the Vive lighthouses for that to work

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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I want real friendship

median basalt Jun 17, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Which will be rather expensive

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Although Vive FBT is probably more reliable than double kinects

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But double kinects is still really good

languid beacon Jun 17, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Do double Kinects even track foot rotation at all

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I had very bad experience with my single kinect

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Using driver4all

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Are there better things to use the Kinect with?

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I currently have oculus with 3 sensors, and a Kinect 360 that I don’t use because did not work with my 360 tracking

vital badger Jun 17, 2018, 9:41 PM

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driver4all?

languid beacon Jun 17, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Something like that

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I already uninstalled it

vital holly Jun 17, 2018, 9:48 PM

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I wish that I had any vr headset lol

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Get a job and earn money to buy one?

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 9:52 PM

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these knees

vital holly Jun 17, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Cant legally do that here lmao (I'm underage)

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 9:52 PM

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oh my goodness

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Oclac, do you have experience with avatars?

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@iron jacinth what do you define as true online friendship (O_0)?

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Depends what its about

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I ruined my fair bit of avatars and spend time fixing them up

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Uh

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Idk

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Someone I can love

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And talk to

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I want to love you

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Mostly ruined them by doing what (O_0)? Mostly putting the wrong layers and bones on the wrong places

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 PM

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👀

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Pls

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Plutonically?

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 PM

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👻

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😍

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Helton dont ask GWnanamiNotLikePapika

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Ok... (O_0)

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@umbral reef Do you know why an avatar may look like they have to pee while crouching?

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Like the knees are bending inwards

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 9:58 PM

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inwards?

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Hmm

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Yeah, towards each other

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Although leaning inwards might be a better way to phrase it

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Hmm... (Lemme see, full body intact and not teraformed, check🎷 ) (not half-Asleep, not a clue) (hyped, check 🎷 ) ok, starboi, treat me like one of your Plasma Gals!

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 9:58 PM

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That is something i never heard of before but id guess it has to do something with the hip bone connection with the legg bones

white saffron Jun 17, 2018, 10:02 PM

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bad ik

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probably

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 10:03 PM

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@iron jacinth wait... You are a newbie that's going straight onto VRchat with today's sets of rules? R u a mad lad?

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Rules?

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What u mean

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I do not understand

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 10:03 PM

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»THE PASTA«

“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”

“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling wont help.”

“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”

“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident because you will be treated as a guest”

“Play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I don't get it

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 10:04 PM

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You'll have to find good maps full of great avatars to have any fun with avatars
Or else, you can't have your own thing until you get a message telling you, that you are allowed to put your avatar into your ingame avatar selection

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Oh

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Ok

scarlet zodiac Jun 17, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Anyone know whats a good price for a vive

umbral reef Jun 17, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Fully depends on the country you live

scarlet zodiac Jun 17, 2018, 10:18 PM

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California

iron jacinth Jun 17, 2018, 10:18 PM

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450?

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Idk

scarlet zodiac Jun 17, 2018, 10:18 PM

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Someone i seeling theirs for 375

rocky blaze Jun 17, 2018, 11:28 PM

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can a mirror be put in the presentation room please like a small one

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like the size of the one in the VR home

surreal bobcat Jun 17, 2018, 11:42 PM

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So far today, I've joined the mountain dew thirst order, got chased by a giant dragon, recruited A LOT of people to said thirst order and we then invaded other worlds holding up our giant bag of doritos as our trophy

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Hey, I want to upload models onto my vr chat account but I know about the whole 24 hour thing. I have like 60 hours on my steam account and I know it doesn't transfer over, but is the only way for me to upload a model to idk like afk on my vr chat account?

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I don't want to move over yet to my vr chat account since I have so many friends on my steam accoutn

ruby needle Jun 18, 2018, 12:03 AM

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Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Thank you for that ^^

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Damn I would have spent alot of time playing piano too, but ill be alone so no point

ruby needle Jun 18, 2018, 12:19 AM

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cirLove

timid orchid Jun 18, 2018, 12:36 AM

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what anime is this
https://cdn.weeb.sh/images/Bkk_hpdv-.gif

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nvm

narrow iron Jun 18, 2018, 12:41 AM

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lol I unblock avatars for not even 3 sec and get crashed

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so tired of this shit

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 12:42 AM

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hi, i was playing with friends and told them how I was waiting to be verified for avatar upload but the leader of the world kicked me specifically to prolong the wait

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you guys have any idea how much that will affect it?

iron jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 12:43 AM

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So tommorow I get my VR

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Headset

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Will@my life change

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Hm

storm stag Jun 18, 2018, 12:44 AM

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there is this Kana avatar with a pink small cylinder in the head and everytime I look at this avatar i kinda lag

iron jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Hm

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I hope I'm amazes

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Amazed

blazing nexus Jun 18, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Do you have to play vrchat enough to be able to upload or do the things its mention on your vrchat account page?

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I have to make a avatar? how can I if I cant upload .-.

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and how does one make a world?

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https://gyazo.com/468d060c472408fca42a0e61b9f01c44

storm stag Jun 18, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Making a world just do it in Unity

blazing nexus Jun 18, 2018, 12:49 AM

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k

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:09 AM

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someone named "br bill" out in worlds crashing people. not sure where else to report this.

iron jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 1:10 AM

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Is ve chat good for acting ridiculous

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I'm good at that

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Dancing and prancinf

surreal bobcat Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 AM

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the general idea is to just be social and enjoy yourself, if you have a hard time with that, maybe try some liquid courage

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I had a conversation with someone about cheese for half an hour

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It was a good time

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I think it was around 15 hours that I was able to get upload rights, so it depends really

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:20 AM

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his ialt is apparently "nice ass" or some other alternative spelling, but he has a crash tool regardless.

clear flax Jun 18, 2018, 2:06 AM

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Can an admin/mod pm me a sec

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 2:09 AM

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For what?

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Oke then.

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You can tag the senior chat mods I guess. Kapp

kind wedge Jun 18, 2018, 2:17 AM

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What's the problem?

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Oh okay I see the context

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I've been told we aren't supposed to handle moderation reports through discord, but I wasn't sure if that applied to discord. I'd go ahead and make a report using the form in #moderation-reports and an admin should get to you pretty quickly. @clear flax

mint hearth Jun 18, 2018, 2:29 AM

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can u pin my birthday?
its june 29 1997

placid umbra Jun 18, 2018, 2:39 AM

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We don't use pins for that, sorry.

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 2:40 AM

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LUL

mint hearth Jun 18, 2018, 2:47 AM

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its ok

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this is me now

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my picture

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 2:58 AM

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You can remind us again on the 29th, I'm sure somebody will tell you happy birthday

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Happy early birthday, just in case I forget

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😄

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 3:34 AM

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LUL

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That's funny and nice.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 3:36 AM

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Lol it is what it is

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 3:36 AM

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vrcfriendreq GhostoQ

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 3:37 AM

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vrclike vrcwow

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 3:38 AM

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PogChamp

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vrcspeech or vrcmuted GhostoQ

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 3:41 AM

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vrcspeech vrclike vrcmuted vrclike Emmitt

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 3:42 AM

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tororo

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iris vrclike

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vrcfriendreq Ghost

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Same name in vrc GhostoHeart

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 3:47 AM

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You have been adderino'd

tranquil delta Jun 18, 2018, 5:04 AM

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

tribal silo Jun 18, 2018, 5:32 AM

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Ok so, a friend of mine is only seeing illuminated textures and im not quite sure how to fix it. Anyone else having this problem? If so and you know how or how not to fix it then plz dm me.

torn apex Jun 18, 2018, 5:39 AM

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I made a compilation video with my experience playing as spore creature

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 5:51 AM

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Suka both politics and posting the same thing in multiple channels are disallowed

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The whole nazi accusation thing is overdone anyways

tardy goblet Jun 18, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Hello

torn apex Jun 18, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Hi

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Eyo

tight galleon Jun 18, 2018, 6:50 AM

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hey tupper

covert chasm Jun 18, 2018, 6:50 AM

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@vocal shard Please don't repost the same thing in every channel. cirPalm

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Hi Yui!

torn apex Jun 18, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Anyone interested in seeing my compilation where i play this game in VR as spore creatures? xD

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 8:33 AM

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That's not very nice of you

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GodotCatchingCoffee

torn apex Jun 18, 2018, 8:42 AM

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What i dont understand is why the great pug runs like shit on a 1080Ti

plain plover Jun 18, 2018, 8:45 AM

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yo

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 8:45 AM

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It's optimized for uhh

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Nothing I guess

paper tusk Jun 18, 2018, 8:52 AM

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Check your CPU and GPU usage, I find that the game is more CPU bound so a 1080Ti won't help you.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 8:53 AM

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Breh you need some tea

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Japan Shrine funnily enough is more chill

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 8:59 AM

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cpu usage looks really low and then you switch to the thread overview

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:04 AM

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I've found Japan Shrine to be better aswell, i rarely visit pug nowdays because of the lag and the people.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:07 AM

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Most of the time the lag within the pug is because of the users though 👀

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:07 AM

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The mirror usually has the chillest people tbh

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:09 AM

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True that Oclac

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:13 AM

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The map itself is pretty bad already though

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:16 AM

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don't say that Korbo or OwlBoy will be mad at you

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don't you dare to insult his perfectly optimized world.

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:17 AM

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Rokk would say that too

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And you know it

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If only it were perfectly optimized

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:19 AM

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9years of development

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villager

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that's so dumb

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forcing avatars on someone ? probably never going to a world like that

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:22 AM

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^^^^^^

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I mean why blame on avatar optimization if a world optimization was already shite

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I used to visit the Pub aswell till it got more err...

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the c word

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:23 AM

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absolute garbage ?

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the only world that make me lag like crazy even with like 5 dudes in it

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:24 AM

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is it okay to say that c word

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:24 AM

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probably yeah

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:24 AM

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cancerous

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:24 AM

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Any other old schoolers on?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 AM

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Depends what you count as old school

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 AM

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I only visit the pub when its friends on guests or friends only

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 AM

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Like pre the big boom or even pre that

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 AM

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Before the big boom

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Pre that

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Ish

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 AM

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Well i was active around 3 weeks before the big boom so GWnanamiLaceShrug

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 AM

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👌🏻

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Miss the old vrchat :c

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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same, i played that game around july

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Only 90s kids remember

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@brisk creek miss the old vrchat ?

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it's way better now

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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enforcing avatars is still dumb

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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Nope

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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some creative people gave us a lot of new cool stuff to work with

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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nobody complained when there's one realistic dude in a pack of anime girls

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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it was plain, at best, before

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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Before it used to only be 20-ish people playing

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Family-ish

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:26 AM

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find some good friends and it will be the same

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i still have the same feeling as before

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:27 AM

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VRChat is improving I think. Mostly glad the Knuckles are gone. The modded clients can be annoying tough

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:27 AM

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it's just more easy to find new people and see more creative stuff isntead of the same bullshit avatars

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:27 AM

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Mhm i hate the drama stuff

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:27 AM

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don't bring up the Ugandan Knuckles again

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I swear to fucking god

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:27 AM

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But you can still find a group to hang out with

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Yep i usually stick to my old friends

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:28 AM

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i remember a group of people that went everyday to uganda worlds to crash all the knuckles

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fun times

brisk creek Jun 18, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Just miss greeting new people into VRchat

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Lol svelsien!

vital rune Jun 18, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Wakanda is okay

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Uganda is KOS

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:28 AM

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it's been a long time since i saw some knuckles

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:29 AM

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I still see some now and then, but it's like 1 per week at best

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:29 AM

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yeah same

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:29 AM

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The only knuckles I see are custom ones

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:29 AM

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there isnt any big groups like before

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i don't mind that much when a knuckles is custom made, some are pretty creative

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:29 AM

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I think the Japanese like them more than us. They're too facinated by western memes to be critical of them

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:30 AM

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You don't see too many japs outside of nippon shrine tho

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:30 AM

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They are too nice to be cancer

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I haven't heard of a Japanese person breaking the poly limit yet, never heard loud music from or gotten crashed by any either. And some days I meet about 100 of them

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I haven't tried that, actually. Closest I can think of is Russian tank raids

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I think there was a Korean group of hackers at some point

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Lol! That's a funny thought

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:34 AM

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I have this issue with people constantly assuming my nationality

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:34 AM

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Any avatars are fine, any skin color and gender, and same-sex lewdness is okay too. But if people have a foreign username you might be critical of them. There's something funny about that 😛

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Every 20th or so lanch of VRChat gives me a "fatal error in gc". Then I close the error and launch again without problems. Software is weird

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But what if I'm both the loli and the one lewding?

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Aren't furries kind of a subgroup?

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Well, not exactly, no. But both seem related to hentai in some way

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It's a subgroup of hentai still

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:38 AM

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Time to get that eye bleach

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:38 AM

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🙈

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:38 AM

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I hope they won't make fur.. The fur shaders are FPS heavy afaik

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:38 AM

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Just make flat fur :^)

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Thats how it works right

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:38 AM

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Doesn't look as good, but it can work

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:39 AM

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Burn fur 🔥

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True

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xD

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I log on and see that

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:39 AM

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ANIME TIDDIES BOYS

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:39 AM

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Hentai is all erotic art which is drawn in a Japanese style

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:39 AM

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Anyways, anyone wanna play VRC?

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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For example, porn of the simpsons characters isn't really hentai

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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5:40

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Furries are okay tbh

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Many furry artists are japanese and draw regular hentai too

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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As long as they stay in their containment zone

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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WHAT

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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The only difference is that some of the characters have fur

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Furrys are leif

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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I can't remember the exact spelling of his name, give me a sec

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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Take this convo out of my christian server GWchiakiVanillaPray

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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I need a new keyboard

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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is girls with cat ears and tail furry?🤔

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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no

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That's a neko

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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kagerofu

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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tfw uneducated fucks associating me with furries because i like awoo girls

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WanWan

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:41 AM

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No, they're only "furry" when their skin is replaced with fur, until then it's a nekomimi

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:42 AM

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I have had the same opinion
My friend calls me a fury because i think neko girls are cute so i just wanted to confirm.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Or neko for short

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Lol, how come? His pics are cute

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Ima leave....

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Lol!

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:43 AM

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aku whats your thoughts on the sonic fandom

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:43 AM

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🤢

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furries making fun of anything

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K

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:43 AM

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Most furry stuff I can find is definitely hentai, and drawn by regular hentai artists...
If you get yours pics from deviantart, it might look more American, but I think think's hentai

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It's true that Disney has been personifying animals for 50+ years though

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Furries have these real disturbing subgroups

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What about the babyfurs then?

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Sorry for mentioning them

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:45 AM

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These boards basically have all erotic drawings worth seeing though 😛 some have 5m+ pictures

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:45 AM

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the fuck.

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:45 AM

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It's called toddlercon in hentai lol

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Also, a lot of furries are gay, half the furry pics are of men. On non-furry sites it's about 90% female (yes I did the math)

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:46 AM

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GWnanamiHideriPray Christian server boys

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:47 AM

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It would be a sad day when they overrun vrc

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:48 AM

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Aslong as they are not obnoxious as fuck with it meh

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:48 AM

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You're not going to see a lot of furries in VRChat, because there are a limited amount of furry models

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:48 AM

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But yea, as akumo said, if they do it like there its obnoxious as fuck

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:48 AM

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i don't ever think vrc will be overrun by furries, the loli's is too great with vrc.

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:48 AM

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There are some which can make custom avatars, but it's few

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:48 AM

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Caffeine the crazy guys will pay peeps to make them

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:49 AM

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I have 86 avatars uploaded, only one is not loli. I will out-supply any amount of furries

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:49 AM

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To be fair we can just make a low effort furry map and get rid of them that way

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Keep the problem in a small area 👀

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:49 AM

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It's a good thing there's few furries in vrc, it means we have the ones that can still communicate with us normies

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:49 AM

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That's a good point. It's difficult to fight obsession

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I wonder why we're not seeing more furries actually

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:50 AM

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True

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People make mad dosh drawing people's fursonas

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Why not make them models

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Those that can handle the weird fetish requests do, Korbo 😛

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:51 AM

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I suppose

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Wtf happened to this chat (O_0)

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h u h/

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Animals are cute because they are animals right?
I actually find furries a bit disturbing but i have nothing against people that like it.
I don't really have the impression that the furry group is that big as i've rarely seen anyone.

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:53 AM

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My pacifier-wearing avatar will fight you with its snail marker

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:53 AM

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And man does it get FILTHY

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:53 AM

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Nah, that fight is going to happen between the genetically inferior Dwarfs and genetically Superior Humans

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:54 AM

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e621 (furry site) has 1.4 million pictures, Danbooru (mostly non-furry) has about twice that.

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The biggest question though, is, how does people who're into animals have so much more money than me?

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:55 AM

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@twin jacinth ~~shhh~~ communicate with em while they are going haywire with earch other

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:55 AM

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And even 20% of all hentai being furry is a large portion I think

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Hahaha

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Caff they spend all there excess money of that shit

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Really makes you Thonk

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Danbooru has good non-furry nutless hermaphrodite pics. FIGHT ME

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:57 AM

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They have 5k in excess, I don't even have 5k net.
I can't really function in society myself so I'm wondering how to get money

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Danbooru has many good pics, but Gelbooru is better

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I bet

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I want money so that I can live in VR and order pizza

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 9:59 AM

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I'll keep myself to nekomimi, way cuter thank you.

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 9:59 AM

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You're gay? Knew it lol. I have nothing against gays, but furries are just gay so often. It's interesting actually

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Catwoman and batman were the first furry drawing in my mind xD

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Suka you've linked that like 5 times now, what is it?

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Make that 6 times

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Stop spamming it please, Suka Man.

timber junco Jun 18, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Whats the gender ratio for furries

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Are there any stats?

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 10:01 AM

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How many of you here find Hermaphrodites gay 🤔

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 10:01 AM

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I know that about half of e621's pics are of male characters

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Do move to #general-media.

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 10:02 AM

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IDK what ULF is or who Gormundur is. I even forgot the definition of sanction--

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Can someone just ip kick the ruski?!

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Oke Advert-chan

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 10:02 AM

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@vocal shard nah, you are bi, stop lying to yourself

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 10:03 AM

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Guess we should go to random-chat, or try to relate this to VRChat somehow

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You mean cute and soft?

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 10:04 AM

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We're drifting out of the topic often, it's better to move to the random chat.

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 10:04 AM

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I've seen one. He had fullbody tracking and an OC avatar. Impressive I think

vagrant sequoia Jun 18, 2018, 10:05 AM

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today my view point was change twice, i wander when the hackers will be ban

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 10:09 AM

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SL looks like a less laggy IMVU. I think VRChat is like 2 generations newer

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And appeals to a larger group

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Any1 wanna play VRChat?

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 10:26 AM

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I think that's what we're here for 😛

warped urchin Jun 18, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Anyone know why full body tracking likes to just reset?

twin jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 10:31 AM

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I want to but i'm working :///

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Theres probably a balancing setting, or it's batteries are depleted

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 11:26 AM

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@warped urchin a lot of issues with steamvr and it’s compasitor

stark oriole Jun 18, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Don't you love when the decimation screws up your model?

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:38 AM

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You need to learn how to"retopologize" i guess

stark oriole Jun 18, 2018, 11:39 AM

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yeah

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Any tutorials on that on blender? :/

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It usually just screws up the chest of my avatars

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and the dress clips on the body

still dock Jun 18, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Can anyone here tell me how long it takes for the vrchat sdk to finally allow me to upload a character? It doesn't give me any info, it just says "use the app more" but I have played vrchat for over 25 hours. Thanks in advance.

ruby needle Jun 18, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

cold talon Jun 18, 2018, 11:40 AM

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FPaul take it away

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:40 AM

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for blender have no idea i don't use it, but retopology is a method, so learn the methodology and you should be ok @stark oriole

stark oriole Jun 18, 2018, 11:41 AM

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I see

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can i do that on unity too or?

ruby needle Jun 18, 2018, 11:42 AM

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unity is a engine not a modelling program.

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:42 AM

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you need a CAD software, you basically remake the geometry

stark oriole Jun 18, 2018, 11:42 AM

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Kay thanks

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Also you can manually decimate or learn other ways to deduce polies

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For most models its not too hard to fix them up to 20K

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Its often harder to fix up clipping then making the count good

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:45 AM

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yes but retopo should be the way to go

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Got no idea how that works and cant be assed to learn more then i have to

pale plume Jun 18, 2018, 11:48 AM

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You cant upload until you use are program a little longer

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I cri

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Inside

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Also from the tutorials im watching it looks like a pain to do

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Also mesakey they mean using VRchat more

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Not unity

pale plume Jun 18, 2018, 11:48 AM

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I knowww

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:48 AM

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well it's a good introduction to modeling, if you want to do your own models one day @umbral reef

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Well avatar models are far from my thing
If i ever get into modeling for VRC its gonna be objects

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And i know how to make most (simple) things within blender

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:50 AM

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avatars, objects basically the same things -> geometry, learning how to optimize them is a good skill to have

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Well i kinda disagree

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When making objects you have to pay attention to other things then with models

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:51 AM

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uh?

clever echo Jun 18, 2018, 11:51 AM

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I think this conversation has gone a bit astray

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What @thorny totem is trying to say is that optimization is always useful in the long run no matter what you model.

cold talon Jun 18, 2018, 11:52 AM

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oclac starting 3d modeling confirmed?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Bahka you know im lazy

cold talon Jun 18, 2018, 11:53 AM

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no

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did i manage to kill the chat again?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Jup

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Bad bahka

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 11:57 AM

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@umbral reef lazy is not an excuse anymore =P, you have some great tools integrated with Zbrush, modo, 3dcoat etc, to do it quite easily (even if the auto is never the answer),

cold talon Jun 18, 2018, 12:01 PM

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:feelsbadman:

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Trust me being lazy is an excuse GWtogaTheSaddest

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Its the reason why i skip most of the learning i could do

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and make most of my work good enough instead of perfect

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 12:02 PM

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A way of life i guess, each their own ;)

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but the satisfaction you get out of it, hmm priceless

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going from a 3 millions poly to a 19k is always fun

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 12:11 PM

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Well if its something insane like that and i really would want to use it big odds il learn it

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But as this is legit a side hobby, it is not even my main hobby

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 12:15 PM

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I got that, but still, one day you'll have no choice but to learn it if you make your models or geometry in general yourself

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At least if you don't want your 20Millions Poly models to look like a legit potato in realtime engines (Unity or UE), or want to save some time and ressources with your rendering/animating work

visual venture Jun 18, 2018, 12:47 PM

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i just got kicked for no reason

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 12:48 PM

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You never know.

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:13 PM

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Lazy isn't just an excuse, it's a lifestyle

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Hence why it has taken 6 months to get my model in its current state.

pale plume Jun 18, 2018, 1:14 PM

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How long do I gotta play VrChat to be able to create stuffs Q-Q

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:14 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Jun 18, 2018, 1:14 PM

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There are 5785 users in VRChat currently

gaunt fox Jun 18, 2018, 1:14 PM

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a friend posted this. is this true? i dont see this anywhere. would not mske sens if i have roomate who also use vrchat """""Guys don't upload avatars for other people on their account there is a banwave going on atm because they don't want people to share their account data so no uploading avatars for other people or you WILL receive a ban this goes on until they implement the gift function""""""

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Half true

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Yeah instead just share assets and break unity tos

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xd

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Half true
but for real.. your acting pretty dumb if you share your account information with anymore for any reason
If its for models just request the unity project files as you can then make your own animations at a later point

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:17 PM

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I don't think you will get banned for uploading content for others, unless the person you upload content for gets ipbanned

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:17 PM

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^^ that also

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That would be the risk of it

gaunt fox Jun 18, 2018, 1:17 PM

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roomate doesn't put unity on her pc since she strugle understand how to use it (i guess i could do it on her pc) so i upload for her.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:17 PM

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also- Unless you use dynamic bones and ect your not even breaking unity ToS

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:18 PM

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I hope you know requesting the unity project will include sharing the assets which is against unity tos

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Unless you want to give them a fuck ton of errors

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Sooo WHO just added “gaming disorder” to a list of disease. 🤦

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Fuck what Unity thinks

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:18 PM

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I mean. There are reasons why pretty much every other service heavily discourages account sharing.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Unity is what this game is made with lol

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Think

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Ey your breaking the VRC rules if you share accounts so GWnanamiLaceShrug

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Or have odds to

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:18 PM

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What do you mean errors? A friend just send me a unity project. I copy-pasted it into the assets folder and uploaded with no problems

gaunt fox Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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as in account sharing or upload to a different account?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Its the same really
You have to share your account to upload on an avatar

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Not every unity project is just a model lol

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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You can send whatever. Just zip the entire folder

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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No you idiot

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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you can export the model and just the model.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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If you do requests for avatars its not hard to make a new unity project

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lmao if you get payed you have no reason to half ass things

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:19 PM

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If you share the assets you are breaking unity tos

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Period

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Oh, I'm talking about errors. You can send anything without errors

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I never gave a shit what Unity wants me to do

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Jesse, if i dont use dynamic bones what rules am i breaking then?

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If the avatar i use it self made so sharing is allowed because well-- its my thing

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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?

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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My dynamic bones is pirated to begin with

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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The VR SDK is allowed to be shared

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Yeah so you are breaking unity tos

gaunt fox Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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i bought dynamic bone add on

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Shouldn't say that in public caffeine. Kapp

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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And the shader plugin is also allowed to be shared

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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We have a personal responsibility to break dumb rules

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Besides, if we're talking models. Why are we focused on Unity assets. Shouldn't we be more interested in fbx or other 3d modeling files.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:22 PM

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im more talking about a easy way to provide content to peeps who payed for avatars or friends helping eachother out

gaunt fox Jun 18, 2018, 1:22 PM

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ok

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Right but if vrchat wont let you upload for other people then they are incouraging their users to break unity tos

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Is that something that they are going to admit

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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If you zip the entire folder, it will export all model data and work 100% of the time. It's just easier I think.
Also you're probably breaking the avatar creators ToS, MMD's ToS and using parts that random teenage girls made many years ago and only destributed to friends

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Jesse... they don't have to break Unity tos.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Really?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Did they tell us to share unity files then?

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Again, talking models.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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So no commissions then?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Unless the answer is a super clear yes they do not encourage peeps to share things

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:24 PM

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I’m talking avatars

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Effects and all

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:24 PM

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Wouldn't you just share the completed 3d model fole.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:24 PM

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Not just models

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:24 PM

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How people do there VRC things is not the VRC peeps there problem GWnanamiLaceShrug g

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Aslong as it does not break VRC rules

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:24 PM

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They'd have to edit for Unity themselves still

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:24 PM

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Also what unity ToS gets broken then

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If its payed assets, those are easy to just not use then

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:27 PM

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You know how vrchat has a tos and if you break it, then you can be denied service. Well unity has the same, and it may not affect you, but if vrchat doesn’t create a better banning system that doesn’t create a fuck ton of false positives and force commissioners to break unity tos, then unity has the ability to deny VRChat service to their engine.

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:28 PM

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Remember it's only against unity tos to share assets FROM THEIR STORE

astral pine Jun 18, 2018, 1:28 PM

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HELP ME PLEASE

mental verge Jun 18, 2018, 1:28 PM

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no

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:28 PM

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Right but do you know how many assets from their store are used in commissions

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Just because you don’t use them doesn’t mean others dont

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Go on vrctraders

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Where thousands of avatars are sold

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Thousands sound a bit exaggerated

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:29 PM

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?

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It’s actually not

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Have you been on that discord?

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:30 PM

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Well then, maybe your doing the wrong type of commision.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:31 PM

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????

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Lol

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Not everyone just commissions models

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millions

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:32 PM

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I still dont see how its vrcs job to enforce unity assets rules

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And sharing files can be not breaking the tos at all
If its a model without payed assats the odds are big its totally fine

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:33 PM

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I have, yes. Avatar reviews are about once per day, so there's not even 1000 in total yet over the lifetime of VRChat

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But there's more posts than I expected, I'll admit

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:34 PM

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I understand that people will pay for anything because they don't have time to do it themselves. But it isn't VRChats job to police Unity TOS. if you can't do a commission without breaking unity TOS, either don't do it, or do it and risk the consequences. It's just how life works.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:34 PM

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It’s not vrc job to enforce unity’s rules, but t is their job to follow them

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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And they do that

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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If they encourage their players to break the rules

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Then they themselves are breaking them

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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They aren't.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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They dont encourage people though

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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They ARE

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Lol

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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No, technically commissioners are.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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How then

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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They made a system that puts commissioners at a risk

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:35 PM

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No?

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Yes?

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If you sign into a banned a account then you get banned

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Maybe

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Welcome to the general risk of account sharing.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:36 PM

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How are commisioners related to VRC themself ? And not by saying they upload content as you claim you have all rights when uploading stuff

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Why do you thonk it is discouraged EVERYWHERE

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:36 PM

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If someone requests a commission, and you go to upload it and that person got banned after the request then you get banned?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Welcome to not being a retatd

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Sharing any account for any reason is bad

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Ok so explain an efficient method to do commissions

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If you can’t share assets or upload to someone’s account

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Like for school im delivering a project as a company
You think im allowed to make the account for the client?

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Is that vrc's problem? Fyi it isnt

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Is it not?

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Ezpz fix
Dont use dynamic bones or other odd scripts and sharing things becomes aye owkay within unity

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Not from a legal standpoint

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:39 PM

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A major of the player base commissions avatars (including their precious streamers)

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:39 PM

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@vocal shard you got it backward, it's commissionners that take the risk, sharing tools, selling models not made from scratch and so on

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:39 PM

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That might be a better way to explain what im wanting to

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:39 PM

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if it's free a blind eye is the rule, if not...well one day it'll cost them a lot of money

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:40 PM

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?

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:41 PM

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if you do commission for free, they'll not hunt you, if you make it for money, that's how you get in trouble

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:41 PM

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Lol no one commissions for free

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:41 PM

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some do

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:41 PM

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It’s not a commission if their is no money involved

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Lol

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Bruh

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:42 PM

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what the hell...

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:42 PM

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That’s just a gift

rapid heath Jun 18, 2018, 1:42 PM

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that's not what the word means

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:42 PM

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If its a gift they give away it away under another copyright rule

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:43 PM

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...

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This isn’t even the issue to begin with

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Well reread what kane said when he joined

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He explains it perfectly

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Change the topic then

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It’s ok, just keep breaking unity tos, totally fair to the people who made those assets in the first place

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:46 PM

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I've shared my model to an individual without breaking unity TOS.

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:47 PM

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and you can as Oclac said, just tell the commissionner that if he want an option (dynamic bones for ex) to buy the asset for himself and you're set

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:47 PM

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Or dont take commisions at all with payed assets

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:48 PM

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yes it's an option too

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:48 PM

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That people do not care about it does not mean anyone but those people are responsible for ot

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:49 PM

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Which comes full circle into this not being VRChat's responsibility.

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Isn't this the players responsibility?

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:50 PM

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It is.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:50 PM

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The seller*

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He is the one providing assets he cant share and giving service he isnt allowed to

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:51 PM

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@quiet prawn sure, but you know when it comes to hosting a good lawyer can turn it around, look what happened with megaupload years ago, he was just "hosting" and got in trouble for the users content

quiet prawn Jun 18, 2018, 1:52 PM

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I'll just add, the entire reason that the account security thing was made was probably related to how comfortable commissioners were getting in demanding account info.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:53 PM

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And users being stupid to provide it

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 1:53 PM

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They did well

tacit plank Jun 18, 2018, 1:53 PM

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I think it's just the ip-banning system banning every user to log into that IP

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Well, I will hop on VR now, laters.

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Take care

iron jacinth Jun 18, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Hello

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Frens

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How r u

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 1:57 PM

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But what if two peoples only way of playing is by the same ip?

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Hey StarBoi, how ya doing

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Good question, there is not a lot of options for Vrc, it's the offending IP or HWID, in both cases no options to be more chirurgical, at least not before faceid become a thing ;)

vocal shard Jun 18, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Where do you guys usually put your view position balls when uploading your model?

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just curious

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 2:31 PM

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depend of your model i guess, VR not VR, double sided shaders etc. On a very basic one i put it on the frontonasal suture

umbral reef Jun 18, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Hight dependa on the model and i normally put my vieuw point around 0.05 with depth inside the face

candid kiln Jun 18, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Vrchat down?

median basalt Jun 18, 2018, 4:00 PM

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@vocal shard Z 0.02 for VR

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It's basically right up to the head bone

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Works fine for me personally

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The head is hidden locally, so you don't have to worry about clipping into your own head

languid beacon Jun 18, 2018, 4:02 PM

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I think there is some confusion here. You can make custom avies using dynamic bones, and you can distribute the avie that uses dynamic bones, to someone who has a licence to use dynamic bones.

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Litterally does not break any rule.

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If target recipiant does not own a licence for dynamic bones, buy it for them, add it to the price of the comission, and include it in the unity package you send them.

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100% ToS compliant for both VRChat and Unity

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Or if they say they already own it, do not buy it for them, do not add it to the price of the comission, and do not include it in the package you send them.

median basalt Jun 18, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Yep

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Just have them import dynamic bone before they import the model

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You should be sending unity packages of the model + scene setup

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Not entire projects

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And no SDK either

languid beacon Jun 18, 2018, 4:12 PM

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yeah the model will already have its dynamic bone parameters set up ready for the package and once they add it they'll all work. it does not strip them away just because the package is missing, parameters are there just not the code that runs them

median basalt Jun 18, 2018, 4:12 PM

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It can actually strip them away if you unload the scene while the script is missing

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It does that with missing prefabs

languid beacon Jun 18, 2018, 4:13 PM

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really thats news to me

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well they'll still have the zip hopefully

rough pulsar Jun 18, 2018, 4:14 PM

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If there's a way to prevent it from stripping the missing DB script paramaters, then that might be a workaround, since I'm sure VRChat just reads those paramaters and applies its internal copy of DB to the avatar.

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It definitely does some adjustments to some paramaters, like capping the update rate.

languid beacon Jun 18, 2018, 4:18 PM

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VRC should not insert code based on names. just because its named DynamicBone it cant assume what code should be there

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Including a paid copy in the price is the way yes, overall we'll see far less dynamic bones around which is a good point for everyone. Or one could simply use "cloth" which is free and comes with Unity. Not that heavy if painted only where you need it @languid beacon

rough pulsar Jun 18, 2018, 4:22 PM

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With a setup helper script and collider layer options on avatars, the DB script could be completely eliminated and replaced with Unity's physics joints.
Which would render this whole problem, not a problem anymore.

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Cloth on hair. Think

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 4:24 PM

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yes why not, just be sure to have a proper hair geometry ;) meaning, yea you know what i mean ;)

languid beacon Jun 18, 2018, 4:24 PM

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personally i don't use dynamic bones, i think manual animations look better

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you can spot a dynamic bome a mile away

shy nest Jun 18, 2018, 4:27 PM

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its more unlikely to not spot one these days

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Animate your hair so it moves with you, hell yes. LUL

languid beacon Jun 18, 2018, 4:28 PM

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you can just do custom animations for walking and jumping and stuff to make them react to motion. they won't respond to sublte mocap, but in return you get fine subltle, "artistic" control over how it looks

thorny totem Jun 18, 2018, 4:28 PM

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yes backed animations could be a trick too

inner cape Jun 18, 2018, 4:29 PM

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But is it really worth it.. ?

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Majority would say no.

median basalt Jun 18, 2018, 4:31 PM

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@languid beacon doesn't work for Idle VR movement though

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Animations aren't as good

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Dynamic bones are fine if you actually optimize them (most people do not)