vrchat-general-2

[alpine cove]

it's the opposite, the unity settings are only for desktop mode

[umbral reef]

Only one core gets used and people cant be assed to reduce drawcalls

[azure charm]

Yeah

Should I try finding a room with just 10 players?

there’s also this one world called the box

It’s lag free

Cause it’s just a box

[inner cape]

With a few different mirrors

[umbral reef]

Pizza it really depends

10 guys could lagg you but at the same time 20 peeps can be lagg free

Really depends how well the avatars are optimized

[frozen island]

how long do i spend with my vrchat account until i can upload an avatar?

[jagged timber]

from 2 hours up to 5 years.

I had to play 12 hours for example but a friend had to play literally almost a week.. so no one actually knows

[flat veldt]

next update particles are friends only

rip vrchat

[inner cape]

Next update after that, they introduce fps limit

So people with potatoes feel better

[flat veldt]

oh next update is sdk where they will ban for over 20k

[elfin forge]

which basically will kill vrchat's good lookin models

[umbral reef]

And where did you get that info from bud

[elfin forge]

also

anyone else having problems uploading'

[flat veldt]

mods

who else

[elfin forge]

well i mean they can go kill their game idm

it's theirs

[umbral reef]

To be fair knowing most people that spread information within these channels the guess of an alien space god would be just as likely 🤷

[flat veldt]

mhm

[umbral reef]

We get a ton of rumors here

[elfin forge]

fun fact: most good looking models can't be under that, specially mmd ones

aka

most of the models in vrchat

[flat veldt]

well most come out true tho

like with cameras

[umbral reef]

🤔 So far i know doing some manualy decimation, some dope shader work and tada

[flat veldt]

or playmaker

[umbral reef]

Low poly high end avatar

Playmaker has been in the works for AGES though

[flat veldt]

yah its not secure

[umbral reef]

That is far from a rumor or something people did not know yet

[elfin forge]

still pretty bad move to ban 20k+

[flat veldt]

thats why thay wont release it

[elfin forge]

since that's not what lags ppl

but no one seemst o understand that

[inner cape]

I just want my emote hand separatation, come on

[flat veldt]

yah they ignore canny

with material limits

[umbral reef]

And them doing something with particels is also far from new-
They did that in the past and got blasted to space for fucking the system up

[kind folio]

Can vrchat just release any solid news on playmaker (:

I'll take anything

even a "we quit"

[flat veldt]

yah they wont

[umbral reef]

All we know compared to a few months ago is that its being tested by the closed beta testers

[flat veldt]

they cant handle bad news

[kind folio]

lul ikr @flat veldt

[flat veldt]

even cameras friends only is not anywhere in news

or logs

or update

[elfin forge]

"we're lowering particles limit"

JUST PUT A TOGGLE FOR IT

you can do it for nametags do it for particles jeez

[kind folio]

toggle is always a games best friend.

[flat veldt]

http://icecream.me/uploads/583dcdd531c7bcef306b066a59432185.png

[elfin forge]

well that's not something you gotta tell me

[umbral reef]

Bruh

That is from world optimization

And tips how to make a world run more smooth

[flat veldt]

still

[umbral reef]

Not still...

And it was a joke also..

[flat veldt]

well i wont lough when it comes

[umbral reef]

Buttons for buttons is a dumb idea and tupper also knows that so he joked about that

[elfin forge]

@flat veldt ppl is still gonna find a way to go around that anyway

[flat veldt]

doubt u can bypass that

not with modded client

[elfin forge]

lucky lately all my models have been under the polycount since i've been deleting the whole body

migero you do know that every single sdk that was released was modifed to grant models above 20k right

[inner cape]

For sure

[flat veldt]

yah check your cs files

it was not

[inner cape]

Every single one

[kind folio]

people

[elfin forge]

every

single

one

[flat veldt]

where

[elfin forge]

as far as i know

[flat veldt]

tell me

[elfin forge]

it already works

[flat veldt]

mhm

[kind folio]

yikes

[elfin forge]

you already replaced as "Warning"

[flat veldt]

this is clean sdk from site

i did nothing

[elfin forge]

oh yeah it's the wrong line

i'm not dumb enough to say it here tho

[flat veldt]

fine with me

[elfin forge]

and as i said

lately my models have been game rips that made it so my models would be under 20k so i'm good and not in the need

they do need to understand that polycount isn't what causes lag issues

[flat veldt]

then rage more https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/limit-materials-not-polygons

[umbral reef]

Zuku currently it can be done but they can just start checking things server side and not client side

They did that when they tried to throw up the poly limit for a super short time

[elfin forge]

yeah but again. polycount isn't the cause of lag

[flat veldt]

^

[elfin forge]

it's dynamic bones

[flat veldt]

write to admins

[elfin forge]

separated materials

[flat veldt]

wait for replay

[elfin forge]

and over 1000 particles per particle

trust me i did

[flat veldt]

i have avatar with 20k and 1000 materials

that are spereate meshes

[elfin forge]

i have one with 5 different costumes that i can switch between during animations

and a monster that i summon with all materials separated or else it would break

plus particles

the model itself is under the polycount

but the additional clothes all spawn toghter would make it 300k or smth

no one ever complained about lag

k no but really is someone having problems uploading?

[near phoenix]

Hey all, what's the best way to get in touch with the VRC team?

[safe prism]

email [e-mail]

[near phoenix]

Thanks!

[shy nest]

migero wtf

[elfin ether]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 4908 users in VRChat currently

[flat veldt]

?

[shy nest]

"i have avatar with 20k and 1000 materials"

[flat veldt]

well its not braking anithing on sdk

so im fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shy nest]

worlds have a limit of 1000 drawcalls before they lag you know that right

remind me to block you if i ever see you

[flat veldt]

i know i have worlds

its not my main

its proff of concept

[shy nest]

doesnt mean shit, it obviously exists to lag people

should be banned for it ngl

[flat veldt]

well ban mods for not making material limits then

cuz noone said to me in beginning its not the polys

¯_(ツ)_/¯

and no i dont go public and troll people with it

[lavish kraken]

Oh hey DeeJay

[flat veldt]

@shell sage to late for that https:/media.discordapp.net/attachments/374501219923656707/451256099438592000/unknown.png

f no

have video

i know one way

but i guess its hard to tell from jsut screenshot

or what ever was submited

same here

well lets hope i get some answers

if hes using vpn

¯_(ツ)_/¯

just tiny bit

yah just slap a plane ontop of orginal owner

more and more plp use this

yah bilboard

yah i already get rumours of them beeing friends with mods

thats why

did not see

😄

mhm

i know where is a bot that removes posts with certan words

k mine got removed

xD

how to hack the system

use space

meh

yah seen similar

i just dont want to talk about mods beeing friends

the best way

just like china

censor everything

i miss the old days

when vrpill was in game

now its all just shady

[twin jacinth]

I don't think they're trying to silence you but rather keep on topic for the channels, if you're not satisfied with something you can mail them
If you don't think you deserve the ban you can also contact them and explain why and prove them wrong.
However if you can't do this of course you won't get unbanned.

You have to be patient, the playerbase is growing and there's a lot of cases these days with hackers and stuff.

[flat veldt]

k im waiting 5h

so i still have time

sometimes i doubt they even read the mail

friend says that 1month ban repeats it self every month

i hope not

[twin jacinth]

Again, patient and wait for respons and it will resolve itself if you haven't done anything wrong.
There's only so much that can be done, you have to remember that this is a Free to play game.

[flat veldt]

^

mhm

now all they do is try to pull out updates just to roll them back

on next day

yah custom content is all i came here for

next update particles will be friends only

soon everything will be friends only

[twin jacinth]

It does not seem that you read or understand what i'm trying to say.
If you get banned, it might be unintentionall, if you're in this case innocent you will eventually be unbanned but you do not have the patient to wait for that.
Be patient, wait for a respons and don't be so ignorant.
You need to understand that there's a lot of people playing this game and that the capacity of the VRC team is limited, hence the long wait time for the respons you're awaiting.

[flat veldt]

true

we are long past that topic @twin jacinth

[twin jacinth]

Read.

''If you get banned, it might be unintentionall, if you're in this case innocent you will eventually be unbanned but you do not have the patient to wait for that.''
It happens even with big companies like Blizzard.

[flat veldt]

finds a bug in game consider that innocent

i doubt it

they are to afraid of bugs getting public

[umbral reef]

Blizard almost never bans without valid proof though

The odds them banning someone wrongfully is low

[twin jacinth]

It's rare but it should put it in somewhat a perspective considering the difference in staff and how professional they are etc.

[flat veldt]

hey 860 h in

o/

true

i dont remember bans back in 2017

[umbral reef]

Jufo, with how many reports i have seen (or claims how you want to judge it) of wrongful banning its not just a rare case imo

[flat veldt]

f i bought fbt for this game only

[twin jacinth]

I can understand your reason for getting mad when banned and you haven't done anything wrong but my point is be a bit calmer and wait for the dev to respons, you'll get nothing out of ''Crying'' here.
No offense.

[flat veldt]

let him be a crybaby

im sure u would do same

[tacit plank]

I have heard about wrong bans before

Did you get a ban reason?

[twin jacinth]

I've played games and interacted with support for years and i work with support myself (ICT)
I have an understanding of what goes into it and what to do that helps and not.
You're free to complain, nothing bad about it if you word it right.

[tacit plank]

Likely a mistaken ban then. Did you email the staff yet?

Also, have you used a VPN?

I see, how long have you waited for a reply?

Not that I know the usual response time, you'd have to ask somebody else who has send emails

[flat veldt]

i love how everyone asks same question

[tacit plank]

My bad, if he has replied to that one I've missed it

[twin jacinth]

General understading of the situation when you ask these questions
You can also figure out if there's something fishy going on.

[vocal shard]

Hello everybody i haw a question,soo i entered in room and someguy just did that soo how his doing that 🤔 https://ibb.co/eCxWNd

[shy nest]

i aint clickin that link

[tacit plank]

That looks super sketchy but I'm bored

[shy nest]

just upload to imgur like a normal person

[vocal shard]

k

[flat veldt]

@vocal shard shader that overlays your view

[tacit plank]

Lol Imgur content is no better.
But a guy made a shader which convers your screen, and then applied that picture to it

[vocal shard]

hmm

[tacit plank]

Still, your own menu should render on top of it if you open that

[vocal shard]

thanks for help 😃

no

i can't see my menu 😄

[tacit plank]

Strange, they tried to make it draw on top of everything in the latest update. Must have done it wrong lol

[flat veldt]

doe s not know how to draw on top of menu

[tacit plank]

Try waiting a bit more for a reply Beep, if that doesn't work I guess you have to spread awareness to get heard

[vocal shard]

that thing is annoying

[tacit plank]

Tried safe mode?

[vocal shard]

amm no

[young dagger]

I can confirm it still covers the menu.

[urban mulch]

Anybody knows if there is a downloadable version with working eyes etc of the Lolis in onesies but the Cat and Dog not the Panda or Tomato ones?

[vocal shard]

the safe mode don't work :/

[twin jacinth]

Said 24 Hours when i asked you tho.

[vocal shard]

it steel shoing that picture

[flat veldt]

@urban mulch try models-resource.com

same timezone

[urban mulch]

@flat veldt Models from there dont have an armature

[tacit plank]

That's only 32 hours and 47 minutes :P
Not sure what the usual time is though, they might have ignored it, and you might still be in the support queue

[twin jacinth]

Okai.

[vocal shard]

bdw that picture is in Presentation Room #95280

[tacit plank]

Google "model name" + MMD, that works for most models

[onyx patio]

could always just make an armature

It's pretty easy

[flat veldt]

@urban mulch then do commision to rig it

like i did

[inner cape]

Rigging is a nightmare

[onyx patio]

weightpainting is fun

[flat veldt]

depnds on model

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard it was a crasher

Grab the output log and send it to mods

[twin jacinth]

You should read the ToS before you do that

[vocal shard]

were can i get output log ?

[flat veldt]

@shell sage yup eu law is on your side

[vocal shard]

OMG

!cache

[inner cape]

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

[vocal shard]

Nvm

[inner cape]

[gilded ferry]

Good morning~

[vocal shard]

When you crash don't open the game up again

Or it will be deleted

[flat veldt]

when u crash get up

first

also RODO (GDPR) helps

[vocal shard]

were i need to send that outputlog?

[tacit plank]

#moderation-reports remember to read the text lol

[winged quartz]

[left tundra]

@urban mulch those should be on vrcat if you look up miracle girls festival

i think they're rigged with mixamo though so you might have some work ahead lol

[young dagger]

Wow... moderators never seem to show up when called.

[flat veldt]

not in 2018

[vocal shard]

thanks for help!

[shy nest]

of course they dont

!online

[floral flax]

There are 6049 users in VRChat currently

[winged quartz]

Not when there's drama around

[shy nest]

look how much people play, there is like 10 staff max that can jump on

[winged quartz]

No need to anyway

[shy nest]

if you think they can get to your problem, you're an idiot

[floral aspen]

you're probably not the first, second, twentieth, or even fiftieth in line. Gotta wait your turn

[young dagger]

It is not just my problem, it is a problem across several servers of the same world you dingong, and it pertains to everyone in them. Which is hundreds of people right now.

The Great Pug stuff really needed to be worked out.

@floral aspen I have waited for 20 minutes or more I think.

Maybe 30.

[floral aspen]

wow 20 mintues. look at you. what a long time

[young dagger]

I am not even sure how long anymore, honestly.

So take that with a grain of salt.

However, every time I have heard someone say "I am calling a moderator" no one shows up for hours.

I have also heard bad stories of the moderation team, as well as devs, when it comes to professionalism.

But have never experienced it myself.

[floral aspen]

As was stated before, there are like max 10 people dealing with thousands of people. You're not special, the mods will get to you when they can

[young dagger]

Sure, but in my opinion, they should hire more.

[winged quartz]

No monies boi

Free game

[floral aspen]

gee, I wonder why they hadn't thought of that

[young dagger]

It is not free wtf.

[winged quartz]

4mi is not enough for so much

[shy nest]

the game is free lmao what

[floral aspen]

ummm, it is tho?

if you paid for VRChat you got scammed

[winged quartz]

it is free lmao

[young dagger]

Was it ever not free? I am fairly sure I paid, on Steam.

[winged quartz]

They don't sell you any vr

[floral aspen]

no you didn't

[winged quartz]

Wait what

[floral aspen]

it has always been free

[winged quartz]

Yeah 🤔

[halcyon ingot]

The game is always free

[young dagger]

Oh.

[halcyon ingot]

But they should still have a decent report system

It really isnt hard

[shy nest]

scammed kek

[young dagger]

Wow... Well, then I don't think it should be free.

[floral aspen]

They are going to monetize it eventually

[young dagger]

As they say, you don't get what you pay for. Or don't pay for.

[halcyon ingot]

VRChat would only improve if it cost even 5 bucks

[winged quartz]

Microtransactions boyos

[young dagger]

Monetize? As in monthly fees?

[halcyon ingot]

As in a one time fee

[young dagger]

Phew. Good.

[umbral reef]

How would it improve

[floral aspen]

No, monetize only means a way to get paid. One way would be to allow advertisers to advertise in worlds. Another would be to allow players to pay creators for their creations and maybe VRChat gets part of the cut

[umbral reef]

Dev wont go 5x as fast

[halcyon ingot]

It would give them money to actually employ people like support staff

It would drastically cut out trolls

[umbral reef]

Ever heard of a volunteer system?

[halcyon ingot]

If they can charge for gmod they can charge for vrchat mate

[umbral reef]

Also-- big odds it would not help any time soon

Settings new roles up within a company takes a fair bit of time

[halcyon ingot]

It would give them money to actually work on the game

instead of removing features with each update

[umbral reef]

Same for getting new devs all ready to do usefull stuff like the current ones would

[young dagger]

So, where are the devs getting their budget from? Donations? Investors?

Side jobs?

[halcyon ingot]

gaben

[floral aspen]

yup. Its not like if they suddenly got millions they could go out and hire new people tomorrow

investors

HTC invested 4 mil last year

[halcyon ingot]

htc give them money because vrchat sells vives

and trackers

[floral aspen]

but 100% is not going solely to development

[halcyon ingot]

i dont doubt it

[floral aspen]

making baseless claims doesn't help anything

[halcyon ingot]

Its a joke mate

lighten up

[vocal shard]

hello all.

[halcyon ingot]

I've heard many a complaint about ron

from several people

[floral aspen]

idk Ron's always been pretty chill whenever I was around him

[fading imp]

!hi

[floral aspen]

and G1fan so many people shit on the devs in here its hard to tell whats a joke and whats not

[fading imp]

oh, the command isn't work

[halcyon ingot]

fair enough

too be fair though

this game has a lot of issues that shouldnt be that hard to fix

[flat veldt]

i love how vrc has like 2-3 devs

[halcyon ingot]

small dev team has its upsides

[floral aspen]

I see people throw that phrase around. "shoudn't be that hard to fix". What are you basing that on?

[halcyon ingot]

as long as they are competent

[flat veldt]

yah all go wrong or right

[halcyon ingot]

@floral aspen How hard is it to have a decent reporting system

like any other game

a user is blasting ear rape?

select them

hit report

[flat veldt]

well 2018 is been only wrong for me

[halcyon ingot]

select a a reason

boom

Like any other online game

Rather than me having to be recording 24/7

[tacit plank]

That is rather easy to make

[halcyon ingot]

then posting that video online

then having to make a post on their google doc

thats ridiculous

[floral aspen]

How are they supposed to determine whats real and whats fake without video evidence?

[halcyon ingot]

Having actual active mods

or

[tacit plank]

Logs

[halcyon ingot]

base it on the number of complaints

[tacit plank]

That's the point of them, really

[halcyon ingot]

if someone gets tons of reports for ear rape

then clearly something is going on

[floral aspen]

the active mods issue goes back to the lack of staff and money issue
you can already send them the your logs. As for when they'll get around to looking at them.... well thats anyone's guess

[halcyon ingot]

I already suggested charging for the game

I'm not going to suggest an idea on how to improve the game without having some idea as to back it up

[floral aspen]

idk if they'll ever charge for the game, but I do know they have monetization plans in the works they haven't announced yet

[halcyon ingot]

That could mean anything

[floral aspen]

I know, but like I said, my best guess would be allowing companies to put up advertisements in worlds like virtual billboards or something similar, and paying content creators for their original, non-copyrighted creations and VRChat getting part of the cut

[gilded ferry]

In my opinion, if you put price to the game, it will decrease population, not everyone can afford the game even if it is 2 dollars or 5 dollars, yes, it might help the developers of the game to make it better, but it might disappoint some people who might want the game

[halcyon ingot]

I really dont want virtual billboards

and charging only a little for the game would do nothing but help the game and community as a whole

[tacit plank]

If you can affort a VR headset, you can afford VRChat lol

[halcyon ingot]

Most of the community arent in vr

[floral aspen]

most people don't play in VR tho

[tacit plank]

But I guess opt in things would be better

Like billboars, sponsored worlds, patron, etc

[floral aspen]

but if you're telling me you have a computer that can play VRChat but can't afford $5 you have other issues

[halcyon ingot]

Very good point tidus

[tacit plank]

I keep forgetting because 90% of the guys I play with have VR and half of them have FBT

[halcyon ingot]

The game isnt exactly optimised

[floral aspen]

true, but thats the nature of an unfinished early access game

[tacit plank]

Lol no, that's a bad excuse

[floral aspen]

the game being in an unfinished state is a bad excuse?

[halcyon ingot]

It's a pretty good excuse

[gilded ferry]

The game says Early access o .o

[tacit plank]

It's more work to make an unoptimized game and then having to fix everything runningly, than to just do it properly the first time

Being unfinished should only make it faster, as it has less stuff than it will have in the future

[floral aspen]

Why pour tons of resources into optimizing an incremental build of the game when the next build might undo all the work you did?

[tacit plank]

The whole "The game is in eta, expect some bugs and lag" mindset only started in games recently

[flat veldt]

i doubt vrc will ever leave early acces

[halcyon ingot]

regardless caffeine

it is still in early access

If you dont like early access dont play early access

[floral aspen]

When you buy into an early access game you give up your right to complain because you knew that you were buying an unfinished game.

[halcyon ingot]

If you play it you understand what you are getting into

[tacit plank]

That's not how it works. Building a game is like building a house. Redoing the foundation after the house is build is expensive and takes more effort than making a proper one to begin with

[halcyon ingot]

Unity is the foundation

what they are doing is more like adding a new door

to make it easier to move around

[flat veldt]

@shell sage did hear that to

[halcyon ingot]

Unless you have a credible source its a rumor

[floral aspen]

and where did you hear that? The rumors that fly around in here are almost always fake

[flat veldt]

i love how they had annoucements that servers cant handle 1000 people online

[floral aspen]

hell, not long ago people were saying the hackers could fry your computer or some other bullshit

[tacit plank]

You can make optimzed things in Unity still. They can probably blame the ond Unity for some of their problems though

[halcyon ingot]

A lot of people have no idea how programming works

[floral aspen]

change a lot to most

[halcyon ingot]

which one

[floral aspen]

yeah, you got a name?

[halcyon ingot]

you heard it straight from them?

[tacit plank]

I program myself, so I'm confident in my claims

[halcyon ingot]

same caffeine

[flat veldt]

give names lol

[floral aspen]

as do I

[halcyon ingot]

@shell sage thats not a source then

please dont go spreading rumors in here

its already rampant

[flat veldt]

even if u say it was tuuper nothing will change

people still wont belive you

[west oyster]

chill fam

[halcyon ingot]

@shell sage saying and not sourcing doesnt help anyone

[floral aspen]

unless you have proof, only saying what you heard just servers as fear mongering

[flat veldt]

stayin silent also does not help

[tacit plank]

If VRChat goes down I hope somebody else picks it up, because I can't live without it anymore, as much as I complain about minor issues around it

[halcyon ingot]

it does if its a rumor

If you are going to make claims to us you do need proof

otherwise keep it to yourself, because it doesnt help anyone

[floral aspen]

whether or not you need proof is irrelevant. If you want people to believe your claims then you do

[flat veldt]

it helps me conform what i did hear

[tacit plank]

Even if he gave you a name, he could have made it up on the spot

[flat veldt]

so s u

[halcyon ingot]

Would be less suspicious than no name

[tacit plank]

Ew, Microsoft, anyone but that

[floral aspen]

altspace vr failed due to some poor decisions on their part

from what I heard some stuff they did split the community

[tacit plank]

I just Googled it, the characters look like something from Wii

[floral aspen]

yeah, not a fan of altspace's avatars

[flat veldt]

^

[tacit plank]

if I can't be a little girl then there's no point.
Looks pretty solid otherwise

[flat veldt]

true

[floral aspen]

in a social game your avatar is a huge part of who you are

[candid kiln]

Why can u get banned for having anti crash

[halcyon ingot]

@candid kiln You are moddifying the client

That's a ban

[candid kiln]

not everyone wants to deal with the cancer that has took over this game tho

[halcyon ingot]

No one wants to deal with it

[tacit plank]

They will be able to tell if you mod the client, but not what you've done to it

Just find a group to hang out with in friend+ worlds, I have been crashed a total of 2 times in my 730 hours, and both were because I went to a public world

[flat veldt]

They will be able to tell if you mod the client ?

[halcyon ingot]

Probably

[flat veldt]

oh i just got banned for modded client but i have clean one

[candid kiln]

how do u meet people if u dont go to public the worlds

[flat veldt]

so

no

[halcyon ingot]

They can't tell if you have a modded sdk so who knows

[tacit plank]

Yeah, it checks if you've changed the files, and if you have, it automatically bans you for it

[flat veldt]

hmm good cuz i have video of that

[tacit plank]

I'm not sure what you're doing wrong then

[rapid heath]

discord is a better source to meet people than public worlds for now

[flat veldt]

and all i do is upload avatar

[halcyon ingot]

Ive got about 650 hours ingame and have had very little experience with hackers

[flat veldt]

and stand next to mirror

[halcyon ingot]

sometimes i wonder if its just overblown

or if im lucky

[tacit plank]

I've never had my avatar stolen, and only ever seen two people who could do it

[coral vessel]

2439 hours played i have a vrchat addiction

[floral aspen]

@shell sage , broken updates are part of the early access package. When the game goes into full release then you can complain. Until then all you can do is report bugs and hope they get fixed. As for poor decisions, I can agree that not all of the decisions they have made have been the greatest, but not so bad they would cause the end of VRChat. as for your last point, I haven't had any such experience so I don't know what to tell you.

[halcyon ingot]

@coral vessel Join the club

[tacit plank]

All my hours are active btw

[analog canopy]

I've only ever been crashed on purpose maybe twice, and I'm almost exclusively in public worlds

[halcyon ingot]

@analog canopy Same

[floral aspen]

I've never been crashed tbh, and I have hundreds of hours

[coral vessel]

same

[left tundra]

just play in the pug thats where most of the hackers go in public lobbies

[candid kiln]

@floral aspen but its different when your the person getting banned for no reason

[analog canopy]

I do lol, still no problem tbh

[tacit plank]

If you join the most popular world, and then the most populated one of those, you will probably end up in a bad one, because that's what the crashers do

[flat veldt]

@floral aspen guess someoen nees to meet my friend with 50 particle systems

[onyx patio]

I've had the most issues in Presentation Rooms, second most issues in Great Pugs

But never in like, Deathrun, or even in Japan Shrine

[candid kiln]

^ and open mics

[winged quartz]

I miss when I could join a random full world and have some fun

[tacit plank]

They don't want to crash 28 people if there's a room with 29 in it

[left tundra]

i could care less about having to restart my game because of griefers but the graphics crashers are a different story

[analog canopy]

Public presentation rooms are just awful anyways

[left tundra]

literally had my computer blue screen

[candid kiln]

@winged quartz init when i first started playing no one even knew about these crashers everyone was just tryna have fun

[tacit plank]

I'll take the avatar stealers over having literally 20 knuckles in one world like around January

[winged quartz]

Yeah, pretty much

I used to laugh a lot in this game back in November

[candid kiln]

mhmm

[floral aspen]

This game before the knuckles invasion reminded me of the early internet. It was great

[umbral reef]

@left tundra update drivers and can try updating bios but most often not worth it

[left tundra]

my stuff is all updated, still won't help you

[tacit plank]

Anyways I will go sleep

[left tundra]

the crasher is literally meant to stop your graphics card from working

[umbral reef]

It should not BSOD ...

Crashing the game and locking up for a short while? Yea sure nothing to odd

But a BSOD aint that coolio

[tacit plank]

Beep they will likely change into somebody else next week. But write your name somewhere on it next time I guess

[shy nest]

most people that get their avatars stolen and complain about it are mmd flippers kek

[tacit plank]

Anyways, laters

[indigo fern]

Gnight

[umbral reef]

And that makes it less worse Deejay?

[shy nest]

never said that makes it less worse, it just doesnt seem sane to me to complain about someone stealing a model that took like 10 mins to upload

just report and move on

[umbral reef]

Most people do not know how to report though 👀

[floral aspen]

they need to put like a poster or something in VRChat Home with instructions on how to report

[shy nest]

most people dont know how to search something either (mainly how long till they can upload)

[floral aspen]

unless you come to the discord you won't know how

[candid kiln]

there should be an easier way of reporting

to many hackers to have a emailing system

[umbral reef]

Well they got that google report forum but still

[halcyon ingot]

@candid kiln agreed

Have an ingame button

easy

[umbral reef]

It was a great fix for when the community was a lot smaller but after an insane user explosion that happened and then having the results of an large community (easy to use hack programs, bad avatar websites and ect)

[halcyon ingot]

@umbral reef Agreed

it was good when it was added

but it severely outdated for the current scale

[floral aspen]

honestly, the dev team just wasn't ready for such an explosion in population. They had neither the man power nor the equipment needed to handle it.

[umbral reef]

Main problem is time

Just having 4 peeps working on a report system wont make it go 4x as fast

[floral aspen]

yup. Do you focus on fixing the game and security issues, or do you focus on QoL features like an in game reporting feature?

[candid kiln]

hire more people?

[halcyon ingot]

they need money to hire people

its not that easy

[floral aspen]

and yeah Oclac, thats something a lot of people don't understand. Throwing more people and money at a programming issues won't automatically make it go faster.

[candid kiln]

i garentee people that have loads of time and love the game would work for free

[umbral reef]

Joltze ever worked with an un organized group?

[floral aspen]

I can think of multiple issues with that Joltze

[umbral reef]

Like a group of 20+ peeps

Not those small 5 people groups at school

If so, what you said should make you instantly nope and give you nightmare flashbacks

[candid kiln]

hmm

well idk im just thinking out loud

[umbral reef]

Having a system for even moderation is a slight management nightmare

[coral vessel]

think louder

[candid kiln]

like they should give us some love u know

alot of people think of this game as life like people that have no social life and shit like they gotta think about those people

[halcyon ingot]

they offer a service

[umbral reef]

Start up an community, help an community and ect

[halcyon ingot]

for free

[umbral reef]

Thats just as important

[candid kiln]

same ^

Like im just speaking for the peeps

[umbral reef]

Did they elect you 👀

[candid kiln]

no but im aloud to have a free speech no?

[umbral reef]

You do--
I was just making a joke from what you said

[candid kiln]

i guess i dont know im just tryna take this serious in all silly it might sound like online and this shit is peoples lifes and could be helping them with real life issues and were not even trying as hard as we can to stop them

[vale palm]

You have to stop seeing this as a social platform, honestly.

It is

But

What drives it is money

The first thing they have to think about is getting money

[umbral reef]

I know, i used to run a community (quit less then a year ago from owning it)
Spend more time with that community then i often did with real life friends

[winged quartz]

I got less scared of talking to people after starting playing

[floral aspen]

lol same. When I first started playing VRChat I was spending 6+ hours in game almost every day

[candid kiln]

exactly thats what im tryna say @winged quartz

[rapid heath]

irl social life? what's that? cross-eyed look

[candid kiln]

this kinda shit helps alot of people

[umbral reef]

@rapid heath That one thing you sold off

[shy nest]

only thing that makes me play more than 2 hours at a time of this game is alcohol, otherwise its so incredibly boring

[floral aspen]

its only boring if you don't have interesting friends

[rapid heath]

@umbral reef where's my money then? the heck

[umbral reef]

UUuuuuu

👀

[shy nest]

I did until recently, they started doing shady shit in regards to their discord so I removed them

[umbral reef]

Time to run

[floral aspen]

oof, that sucks DeeJay

[candid kiln]

idk all im trying to say is maybe we could work harder or even get trusted people as mods in game

i mean maybe we could make a big discord and try to get people to see these people that are hacking?

[shy nest]

Only way for me to ever meet new people is to make a stupid avatar or put on a facade that doesnt represent me at all

[umbral reef]

Having a witch hunt community aint a smart idea

[floral aspen]

I meet new people through my friends. I'll join on a friend and then start hanging out with their friends, maybe send a few friend requests. And the cycle continues

and agreed Oclac

[candid kiln]

why not?

[umbral reef]

Like, im all for that idea of community staff--
But its not something they can push out within an hour

[shy nest]

there is only one other person on my friends list that plays vrchat and he plays when I do generally

have to find people myself

[umbral reef]

Your legit asking why a witch hunt is bad? Ever seen twitter? Or know about the 4chan Boston bomber?

Uuu reddit boston bomber*

Its the same why that elon musk idea of juding the media is retarded and super scarry

[surreal cipher]

huh

[umbral reef]

People do not mind at all making false reports, making false proof even and abusing any group mentality they can use

[floral aspen]

rumors already spread like wildfire here. If a rumor got out about some innocent dude being a hacker and started a witchhunt, it would suck really bad

[umbral reef]

Same with that dumbass 4chan hack attack on the 17th crap that went around not to long ago

[rapid heath]

it's like people don't understand basic psychology: a whip method doesn't work - it only makes things worse

you should only use the doughnut method: either you give it..... or you take it away

[candid kiln]

i guess i didnt think about that

[umbral reef]

But ima be eating/cooking

Take care

[winged quartz]

[floral aspen]

bye Oclac

[candid kiln]

It was nice talking 😄

[indigo fern]

Take food pics and post in random chat

[coral vessel]

im eating air

ill take pics

of my meal

[analog hemlock]

;-; hooow looong till I can upload my avatar

[shy nest]

boy oh boy another one

[rapid heath]

error Patience wasn't found

[vocal shard]

[analog hemlock]

oof

I just got my first try building alone so oof

dun't hate me if I am not patient I just want to try it out the animation I did simpleee

[vocal shard]

I hate you

You used oof

[analog hemlock]

Bigger OOF

:>

[indigo fern]

F

[analog canopy]

[gritty laurel]

Anyone know what unicode letters are allowed to be used in usernames? I have seen others in vrchat with it in their usernames, but when I tried to change my name to one with unicode I was told "We do not support those types of characters in name changes". So anyone know? @ me if ya got any info.

[analog canopy]

They may be steam users, who change their steam user name

[sage pewter]

@shell sage I've heard of it and tried to look into it. How does the content uploading work?

Based on the tutorials I'm reading, it Looks like High Fidelity only allows custom models, rigs, and materials.

[floral aspen]

if true thats a higher barrier for entry

[sage pewter]

The benefit though is that it looks like you could set up your model entirely within the modeling program of your choice

It mentions adobe fuse and mixamo, but I assume Fuse is just for creating the skeleton and naming the bones correctly, which could be done manually with the knowledge to do so

And of course you can do your own rigging in a 3D modeling program

[floral aspen]

thats not really different that what VRChat does. You can already use whatever modelling program you prefer before putting your model in unity

[sage pewter]

But you would still have to learn how to use unity

You have to make sure the rig is configured right in the configurator, set up the materials, choose shaders

[raven silo]

just only need to learn 3d modeling only

[shy nest]

unity is the easiest part of doing model shit

[raven silo]

and be able host your own 3d model to server

[floral aspen]

unity is just clicking through a few menus in order to do some setup. All the actual work is done is blender/maya/etc.

[sage pewter]

I'm not saying Unity is hard, I'm saying it's one more thing to learn. That makes it more intimidating no matter what

[floral aspen]

plus if you rigged your model correctly it will already be setup correctly in the configurator

and if you mapped your textures correctly, your materials should automatically import

only thing left is to choose shaders you want

sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out

[mild skiff]

C++ is a massive turn off. But I suppose it would be faster and more efficient?

[vocal shard]

I'm looking at building a new pc with Ryzen in mind. Does anyone know how well the Ryzen 5 1600x vs Ryzen 7 1700 works in vrchat? Will an Nvidia 1080 graphics card be bottlenecked by a ryzen 5 in vrchat?

[raven silo]

@vocal shard i run amd Fx 8350 you should be find new update CPU

plus vrchat only 1 core programed

vrchat need someday get to unity 2018 want to be multithread

[vocal shard]

Ohh okay. I am currently running a ryzen 3 1200. And to my knowledge that is just a binned chip, so if I just get a 1080 it should work well. Is that correct?

Ryzens have a lot of cores, but performances per core are lower than Intel processors per example

and since the 2nd gen of Ryzen processors is available now, I'd recommend getting a 2XXX series

[raven silo]

anything above amd FX 8350 and 1080 GTX is fine with VR

vrchat problem is 1 core use and people make poorly avatar models

with alot material

and dynamic bone

[vocal shard]

which is why I'd recommend a processor with good per-core performances

in my case I went with a i7-8700k but I don't know your budget

Thanks @raven silo. The 2XXX series for my workload is too much since I primarily game.

Windmill of friendship avatar

[raven silo]

@vocal shard even if you get best CPU vrchat still hold it back because how it programed right now lol

[ruby needle]

if you have the money for a 1080 why would you want a ryzen

[vocal shard]

Well... I just checked the prices and looks like the ryzen 5 2600x is in my price range. Does it perform as well or better as a 1700? I would have to look at benchmarks myself

@ruby needle I look at intel prices for 7700k's and I find it too much for the performace/if I will utilize it as a primarily gamer.

[raven silo]

yea best choice for gaming is intel

[ruby needle]

as a games you want the i5-8600K

the newst gen comes with 6 cores and has a higher IPC then the ryzens

[raven silo]

i game with amd fx 8350 all the games i play work at 60fps

[ruby needle]

fx is one of the worst CPU's out there, specifically if badly or not at all multithreadet

[vocal shard]

I'm looking to game at 1080p144hz. I have heard some people say ryzen is better for high refresh rate and some say intel is better. Not sure though. I will look at the i5 8600k then for sure.

[ruby needle]

ryzen is a cpu heavily optimized for multi threaded things

[vocal shard]

old compooter had AMD FX-4100 and Radon HD 7770, I didn't even try to install VRChat on it

[ruby needle]

however the i5-8600K will be one of the best choises for gaming.

[raven silo]

be more future proof just get i7

[ruby needle]

no

as a pure gaming machine an i7 is rarely worth it at all

[vocal shard]

@raven silo I remember someone told me you can alocate the cores to vrchat somehow. Is that at all possible? Or was he misinformed?

[ruby needle]

you can asign cores to programms and i have experimented a lot with it

but in the end it doesnt really help

[meager solstice]

nah it doesnt help

[ruby needle]

it might help a tiny bit

[raven silo]

vrchat would need programmed that in support more then 1 core

[ruby needle]

for example i removed the access on the first core which is primarily for the system and gave it realtime rights so if any other software uses that core vrchat is on it can snack the performanc estill

also i dont allow it to use the hyperthread's

cus you dont want a single threaded programm to execute on a hyperthread

[wild stump]

i just love that i just join a friend to see how is doing and kick out by the host of the loby i feel like there is some cancerous ppl in vrchat not all but some.

[ruby needle]

there is always cancerous people in bigger communites / games

[wild stump]

yep

[vocal shard]

For ryzen ram speed is important. Is there a specific ram speed I should get if I get a i5 8600k?

[wild stump]

how much Ram do you have

[vocal shard]

I am speaking of building a new pc and plan on getting 16GB. I currently have 8GB at 2400Mhz because the crazy ram prices are terrible.

[ruby needle]

you should definitely got to 16

[wild stump]

ahh ya

[ruby needle]

8 is super outdated

[wild stump]

ya i was at 8gb now at 16gb i love the speed

[rough pulsar]

I've had vrchat get a memory leak and go over 9gb memory use, sooo...

[wild stump]

my one friend has 32gb of ram on his pc

[rough pulsar]

my VR system has 32gb. It's done me very well for both VR and non-VR stuff.

[wild stump]

nice

[rough pulsar]

Can't beat my desktop though ;D

[vocal shard]

Ik. It is a big disadvantage but I want to put money into a new pc not just upgrade mine slowly rn. My first is a new gpu if I am to upgrade slowly. It is hard to play vrchat om a 1050ti 4GB

32 GB here too

[ruby needle]

1050ti 4gb should be ok for it tho

[raven silo]

Amd fx 8350 Gtx 1080 16gb ram

that whati run

[wild stump]

and i just got a GTX 1050 last year so ya

[vocal shard]

I phrased it weirdly but I get never 90fps. Always 45fps in a room with 2-3 people. Any more people and 20-30fps

[ruby needle]

CPU is the main factor for vrchat currently

[wild stump]

ya some ppl avarat's can do that too you

[rough pulsar]

some
most you mean :B

[raven silo]

@vocal shard need remember some people avatar are crappy made lol

[ruby needle]

i would really recomend first upgrading your cpu Angel

[wild stump]

with the practical effects

[ruby needle]

then seeing how well you perform

and gpu second

[raven silo]

what lower perfomance is the user who dont understand how to make 3d model

they think it cool add effect and material and different shader

[ruby needle]

those who dont care about optimizing

[raven silo]

they forget that drop performance for people

[ruby needle]

or.. dont care

cus they just play on desktop ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vocal shard]

@raven silo what do you get performance wise?

[raven silo]

1 material, less dynamic bone or none at all dont use particle lol

remove all mirror from your worlds

[vocal shard]

When I lower my render scale to .6 in steam vr my fps goes up maybe 2 fps. Does that mean I am bottlenecked by my cpu?

[rough pulsar]

Most likely.

You can see which is your bottleneck by opening up steamVR's frame timing

There's options on it to view it in VR, it attaches to your right controller.

[vocal shard]

Mkay

[rough pulsar]

Just be aware, if you're the slightly obsessive type turn it off as soon as you're done otherwise you'll be overanalyzing everything and driving yourself to a new kind of insanity. The kind with small furry animals singing show tunes.

[ruby needle]

[umbral reef]

Aint that just watching to much cartoons?

[rough pulsar]

Not when they start singing while you're on the toilet, or trying to order a coffee.

[umbral reef]

You sure your tv aint on then?

Or that its the alcohol

[rough pulsar]

I have been attempting to focus my magical powers for the past week to turn a can of pesi into booze and it's just not happening. All I got was a headache and $10 I found behind the sofa.

[umbral reef]

Sounds like you can summon money then

[opaque remnant]

so someone started crashing people in the pug i was in, including me, and i got it recorded, but there's no context for it, so it's more like 10 seconds worth instead of the 2 mins required for a report, plus he was standing behind some of the booths so his nameplate can't be seen

he did have a shader that made him visible through walls however, and he used a lightning effect when crashing you. i was actually scrolling through the social room list when it happened, and i saw his avatar there

i also went into task manager so i could terminate vrchat, since it was at 10GB memory

so that's part of the recording i guess

[delicate stump]

in the future virus throw lightings at you

[rough pulsar]

@opaque remnant If you still have your outputlog you can send a report in. If you've quit vrchat since this happened, don't re-open it as it'll wipe the useful log.

Send an email to [e-mail] and attach the output log file. Do mention what time this happened (local time, the one on your PC) in the email.

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

[opaque remnant]

yeah, i made a copy of my log after it happened. haven't launched the game since

so will do

[vocal shard]

@rough pulsar Earlier you said to open steamVR's frame timing. Is this it? because I can't fine the option to put it on my right controller. (I have oculus not sure if that changes anything) http://prntscr.com/joojgj

[rigid anchor]

um can somebody help me

I cannot upload my skins to vrchat

it says you have to spend more time or something like that

[devout python]

they implemented this to keep out bad models from what i have heard you have to play the game from 20 to 40 hours

[flat veldt]

^

[split canopy]

I'm doing my skins here but I'm giving a boring thing that does not stop me from loading the skin to my account.

[vocal shard]

the game just logged me out, same for my friend

[ivory lake]

Same here, I also had issues with loading avatars before it happend.

It defiantly wasn't, like it would load me back to my home world. then it did it again but it did not load, just darkness.

[vocal shard]

I could login again

and I'm being logged out everytime I try to join the SAO Redux map

my friend tried to follow me and experienced the same problem, except the game then crashed for him

[ivory lake]

is it like when you load somewhere, everyone disappear, it relogs you and sends you back to your home?

[vocal shard]

I have to log back in manually

[ivory lake]

that is what I'm experiencing at least.

[vocal shard]

since I have a password-manager generated password, writing it in VR is… uh.

at least the VRChat keyboard is better than the SteamVR keyboard

[rough pulsar]

@vocal shard SteamVR Settings > … video? Display? There's a button somewhere in the settings window itself that mentions frame timing, it'll open a new window that's a constantly moving graph.

[twin jacinth]

Can someone help me with my Mic?
I'd like to have it so it's on constant because i'm playing in VR but i can't find the settings for it
When i'm on desktop i have it set for V Push to Talk but on the Vive it's no button for it if i'm not wrong?

[vocal shard]

mic toggle is in your quick menu in vr

should be bottom left side

[rough pulsar]

In the settings there's a 'mic defaults on' setting, or something with very similar wording.

[twin jacinth]

I'll try and come back, thanks for the suggestions 😃

[dreamy crystal]

the photos you take with the ingame camera were are stored?

[umbral reef]

D:\DATA\Pictures\VRChat

[dreamy crystal]

thanks

[winged quartz]

Sometimes I just keep in the random chat thinking it's the vrc general 🤔

[devout island]

This one is better because more drama

[vocal shard]

Is there a channel to talk about of your VR setup available space/room?
More likely I want to discuss about optimizing the room space with minimalistic furnitures.

[sage pewter]

Microsoft Kinect can be used with VRChat right?

[devout island]

Yes

Not sure how to set it up

[floral aspen]

you'll need additional software, like Driver4VR, in order to use it with VRChat

[vocal shard]

Hi

[floral quiver]

My vrchat keeps logging me out :(

[sage pewter]

The system's antibodies at work 😉

[vocal shard]

mhm

[haughty mountain]

How would a Switch port of VRChat work?

[devout island]

Right now I don't think it's stable enough

And I'm pretty sure vr wouldn't work well on switch

[ruby needle]

how would vr work on a switch at all

tape it to your face?

[vocal shard]

Is the Switch even powerful enough to render vr?

most probably not, at all

[toxic dagger]

Barely runs NuDoom while looking like it's using low graphics presets

[vocal shard]

it's already having troubles keeping the fps counter high in some zones of BotW

[toxic dagger]

So probs not

[ripe moss]

Hey did anyone have any information on how to get into the playmaker beta stuff on VRChat? Just curious on how some stuff would play in VRChat 😃

[signal thunder]

Is there a way to view your time in game per account? I have an alternate that I'm using but can't upload avatars with. I'd like an idea of how much time I have left..

[onyx patio]

Nope

[winged quartz]

That would be pretty nice

[dark narwhal]

is there an issue with the mute and unmute button it doesn work on my keyboard or controller even after restarting?

thevermind fixed it by turning it on and off in settings

[vocal shard]

Wow
I still don't have permission to use my own avatars

So it is by hours on the game

[inner cape]

It isn't only dependent on hours played.

[vocal shard]

I'm just not sure anymore

At least no infinite 100% loading screen so far since the update

[inner cape]

I just said it isn't, you're still not sure.

[vocal shard]

By any chance do you know any worlds with a Kafuu Chino model?

[inner cape]

I don't go to avatar worlds, so nope.

[vocal shard]

Darn it all

[small wing]

Someone told me tupper is going around catching those crashers woooo!

They are finally doing things. Im so happy.

Clean this mess of a community dad.

so i can finally meet new friends haha

best thing ive heard all day.

I might actually go out in public soon for once

👌

[inner cape]

[devout python]

what about the people that have been falsely banned

[raven silo]

@devout python email hope they left it up

[devout python]

i have

its just a matter of waiting

[raven silo]

yep

that why say hope

[devout python]

also i'm not banned just trying to help a friend get unbanned

[raven silo]

just have to wait keep bugging somone not make get outbanned faster

[devout python]

i think my plan is to send an email once a week so i'm not spamming

[warped dew]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 5478 users in VRChat currently

[warped summit]

hi

[fickle plinth]

hello everyone

[jaunty kite]

about 2 days ago Vrchat stopped loading videos for me, any tips except for deleting expired certificates?

[devout island]

You should clean up your cache

[jaunty kite]

i reinstalled the game as well as deleting the VRchat folder in appdata

didn't help

[devout island]

Don't know what else to tell you

That was the only solution I knew

[jaunty kite]

well shit, cuz now voidclub or any world which gets its music from YT doesnt work

[south oyster]

ah, home sweet home.

[indigo fern]

welcome home?

[devout island]

Welcome to vr home

[south oyster]

thanks 😏

[vocal shard]

hello all.

[devout island]

Hello

You're late

[vocal shard]

?

[devout island]

Chat is dead at these hours

[umbral reef]

boop it

[vocal shard]

oh, was only saying hello though.

[cold talon]

Twist it

[vocal shard]

Scratch it

[haughty mountain]

Back to my Switch post, I was thinking more of it being another way of control

A controller.

[sleek bone]

oof

[nova flower]

ok so

i have 2 invites left for the crew 2 closed beta

anyone?

[nova flower]

nein?

[onyx patio]

What's that

[shy nest]

ubisoft game

first crew was sort of a flop

or rather just your average ubisoft game on launch

touted to be awesome but pretty mediocre on release

[onyx patio]

hmm...

[shy nest]

only thing from ubi im hyped for is bge2

[dire charm]

i want to die

[mystic wind]

ok

@dire charm You will one day biologically

if you don't wish to be immortal

[dire charm]

smh lmao

[fading imp]

can someone just fucking stop the fucking cancer crashing the game

[timid garnet]

@shy nest Still got those invites? Ill check it out.

[shy nest]

if you scroll up just a tiny bit above mine you'll see that im not the person with the codes lmao

[timid garnet]

Oh whoops

Tired as hell lol

@nova flower If you got the invites still ill check it out

[kind folio]

:pink:

[nova flower]

nope given away lul

[tender smelt]

god there's so many avatars circling around that lower your fps like crazy and almost crash you

[weary cypress]

Rawrrr

[polar saffron]

is there a functional alternative to the Rift/Vive because $400/500 is kind of insane.

[vocal shard]

Windows Mixed Reality?

Goes on sales for muricans that makes it considerably cheaper

[polar saffron]

oh that's a good idea

[floral aspen]

just keep in mind the tracking isn't as good as rift/vive so you get what you pay for

[vocal shard]

It’s not bad either

Not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, you just need to be aware of its limits.

t. WMR user

[polar saffron]

I mean I can deal with a few tracking hiccups, I'm more just trying to see if at a later date I want to invest in better VR gear

(and not get complete crap meme VR like a cardboard cutout)

[vocal shard]

Yeah, if you wanna try out VR without having to set up sensor towers and probably cheaper price and kinda waiting for the next gen, WMR isn’t a terrible choice

[floral aspen]

yeah, probably a good idea to save your money and wait for gen 2 since its coming either next year or 2020

[vocal shard]

Unless you end up like me and spend all your free time in VR ofc

I feel the limits of WMR somewhat hard with my about 1k hours spent on it

[floral aspen]

man, going from WMR to rift or vive gen 2 is gonna blow your mind

[vocal shard]

I’m probably switching to basic Vive tbh, the time I spend on VR means it’s worth it

Not waiting 1-2 years

[floral aspen]

understandable

I think the gen 2 feature list will be worth the wait tho

[vocal shard]

I’m probably going to get gen 2 when it comes out too

With a job it won’t even be difficult 😛

Not having kids etc to drain my resources means it will be fairly trivial

[floral aspen]

lol yup. Easy to have money if you have a decent job and no kids

[visual kestrel]

Hello, does anyone know after how much time I will be able to upload avatars with the VRchat SDK?

[floral aspen]

no one knows. Its not just based on playtime, but a number of other factors as well

[visual kestrel]

I've spent all day on VRchat yesterday and already got almost 10 friends that I fooled around with

[floral aspen]

All we can tell you is keep playing the game

[visual kestrel]

ergh

alright

I mean I've played more than 40 hours with my Steam Account on VRchat

but didn't know that I had to have a SEPARATE ACCOUNT to upload stuff...

that sucks

[floral aspen]

playtime on your steam account does not contribute to the trust system unfortunately

[visual kestrel]

shit

what a bait

[vocal shard]

I don't believe you'll be able to upload if your account is still very young, I also spent quite some time but nuthin since I basically arrived 2 days ago

[floral aspen]

ehh, not really a bait when it says you have to use a VRChat account

[visual kestrel]

it'd be nice to link it to Steam tho

Oh well

thanks for the information

[floral aspen]

np

[rapid heath]

steam users can easily change names, which might be problematic when you have hackers and stuff

[floral aspen]

I don't think you can change the 4 digits that appear after your name on steam accounts though

[visual kestrel]

^

[rapid heath]

do they always appear in VRC? actually didn't pay attention to that

[vocal shard]

the 4-chars discriminator always appears on Steam accounts

[floral aspen]

^ nothing you can do about the 4 digits

[rapid heath]

cool then.... disregard what I said before

[vocal shard]

pretty much the same way you have a 4-digits discrim on Discord, except you can change this one with Nitro

discriminator

that's how Discord calls them, and that word fits their purpose

if two people have the same name, that's how you can discriminate (in the sense of "to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately") them

upon changing it discord calls it discord tag tho

https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000270351-Custom-Discord-Tags-with-Nitro

yeah, because it's easier for people to understand

I'm talking about the API-level here :)

api is api

if you talk in api

although we use "tag" for the name+discrim in some libs

we were also talking about "discrim farming" before changing it with Nitro was a feature

[median basalt]

I think the four letters/numbers on Steam accounts are hidden from name tags if the name is otherwise too long

But they're still there on their profile

[vocal shard]

someone tell me. whats mame of this music name?

someone turn it on at VRchat.

https://youtu.be/JqvXmBpAx3g

i record on it. but i cant find this on soundhound.

i spend time almost 32hr. no sleep.

oops Was this story to be done in the lobby?

i found it tnx all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsgrCaJ14KU

have a nice day

[vivid grove]

is anyone else getting an error opening oculus saying that it may be updating?

[high spire]

Any idea if or why the World Uploading / Updating is having hiccups?

[vocal shard]

i cry... my mate got turst after 24 hours i got now 60 hours play time ( run around and stuff like that ) what a sad life ....

[opaque remnant]

sounds like you need to add more people, also people blocking/muting you is probably detrimental so try avoiding that

[vivid grove]

I booted up kinect2vr but when I turn on the skeleton tracking on the app, it doesn't show any skeleton. what am I doing wrong?

[heavy timber]

SafeMode is useless

There are modders that can circumvent it

[devout island]

Just get your own anti crash mod

[indigo fern]

🤔 become a modder to avoid modders?

[raven silo]

then get banned

[indigo fern]

^

[floral aspen]

modifying the client is against ToS, no matter what reason you have

[indigo fern]

they dont see the uses anyway, all they see is a modded client
so you there sitting your seat, dont ever modify your client

[vocal shard]

le me making a random appearance to remind you about the same with Discord, they don't track client mods but those are still against the ToS, that's all for me, back to VRChat

[shy nest]

tfw instead of crashing normally unity decides to spam hundreds of text boxes complaining about the error

like cmon fam just close and make me lose all my progress like normal

[clear hinge]

Man

De big gae

[calm stag]

Oh yea I forgot I've been gone a while

Hi vrchat discord

[south oyster]

[hollow kraken]

eyyyy, i managed to be able to upload avatars in 15 hours, i don't know if they changed the Trust points needed or something, but i'll take it

[ruby needle]

trusts "Points" have never based on time

if you are really active you can even get access below 10h

at least if the rare claims are true