#vrchat-general-2
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That's all
Can't keep up, eh? 
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Mate I'll destroy you in garfield kart
(x) doubt


hm where good place to find full body female at?
lol i meant full body tracking (i was lagging lol)
Oh lmao
You mean places to buy them?
No
Like if they wanted dance for events for Dirty Dancing Void Club event
(Every saturday)
I'm not sure what you're asking
Use cats and make one?
Hah.... good luck on that one.
lol mate i said it before it's for people who dance not buying geee
yes
why girls only tho
cmon
it's not like you'd know
^
I'd volunteer but i don't have vr and i can't dance
what a valuable volunteer 
It's for event and owner wants full body tracking females (and i'mhelping friend out lookin for them)
Why thank you
Why do they have to be female though
so if I had a female dog
is that fine?
she can roll around
it seems like a prostitution ring
it could just be a female avatar.. why does she have to actually b a female.. i don't trust this
The way the question was asked reminded me of r/incels
For some reason
Extensive use of female over girl or woman
Kek
Sounds about right
<@&378256373701410817> someone keeps putting up a hentai screen and crashing people ingame (had to delete 3 Twitch.tv vods today because of that)
@frail viper #moderation-reports please !

i have a question. i used an avatar off a pedastal and it crashed me, now everytime i try to log back in a crash cause its still on me. How can i remove it?
anyone know?
Is the bloody ARG over yet?
Not sure about that
@olive spindle try launching vrchat from this url: https://vrchat.com/launch?worldId=wrld_f628a674-4f98-470f-afc2-b37d3cbcbd06&ref=vrchat.com
Zarni said it theoretically should default you when you load into the tutorial map
please report if it worked!
it worked, thaank you
True hero 
@ruby needle thank you, it worked

Anyone start a new account recently and get access to character creation yet?
Yeah
I got mine after almost 30 hours
Right after accepting a friend request from someone
Which suggests it's related to activity
it is indeed not just time
So, in Unity, I imported the VRChat SDK and I can't click on settings or build control panel, so I can't login which means I can't upload. I literally logged in yesterday and nothing has changed..
Hopefully this is an okay channel to ask in since there isn't a direct help or support channel
No errors in import, or after clicking on settings/control panel
If I click on settings, literally nothing shows up in the console. But the control panel it loads some information but no errors, and it doesn't give me a window
This is definitely a weird problem because everyone complains about not being verified to upload or not seeing the correct options in the dropdown but this is super different
so it does not work on a empty unity project with ONLY the SDK
(nothing from that website not to be named)
Yeah, that's what I have open
Is there a way to get VRChat to run a bit smoother?
Or at least stop with the infinite 100% loading screens?
Also, about how long does it take before I can use my own avatars?
first, no
scond does it proceede eventually or do you get stuck there?
thrid: 24h+ is the word around but there are other factors based on activity in game too
anyone know any good avatar worlds that have avatars with pen fingers?
Wow, I finally got an error and it says invalid credentials. But it doesn't even give me the login though
uh... kay 
I'm just going to restart my computer 0_0
do et
So it didn't help at all, same exact problem.
I'm giving up for now unless anyone has any promising ideas, thanks for the help though @ruby needle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438536466558222336/445428829884907530/unknown.png
is this how you do full body tracking
Yes
So what happening on 17th i got few discord nessages to stay off pub world again but also stay offline due to a planned attacks may happensd ?
Disregard lmao
Huh ?
yea i'm not sure on the upload thing, but its definitely not just time
i've got 54hrs
been running around a bunch of worlds, chatting, changing avatars, etc.
maybe you need x friends or somethin
The screenshots taken from the camera, whatโs their location? In my Pictures directory thereโs a empty VRCHAT folder
My camera screenshots appear at C:\Users\(Username)\Pictures\VRChat
Hmmm mine is empty but I do remember hearing a windows error sound when taking my first pic with the camera
i tried using the camera in a neat world but it ended up taking a picture of my private home like 5 minutes later
that sounds weird 
Too long timer, phur?
Also I managed to take a picture of myself, but for some reason it was upside down. I felt like an old man trying to use new technology
vrchat first bday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUv8BBqEv3A
@uncut trail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EluzJU84-NU
Hi
How am I supposed to know which moron does it???
I am not one on one with them in a room...
If I would know which one was it I would obviously report them and not ask here...
Duh...
Thing is you dont need to know ~
How is every 1 today?
@versed hound If you're in a room and someone causes you to crash, before you start vrchat again you can grab your output log and send an email to moderation@vrchat.com and attach the output log to the email. They may be able to find (& ban) the one who crashed you.
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
I just woke up star so pretty good so far
Just got up too. Breakfast time :D
Good morning to u to gallium
wow...
Thanks @rough pulsar!!!
I sadly started it again...
Most of the people said a certain person did it, but he and a few others say it wasn't him...
If I found a cancerous player and I would like to warn people about him, can I post it here??? @rough pulsar
He is distorting peoples view and crashes people...
I have the screenshot of him...
He blocked me cus he got scared that I will report him... XD
Well send an email to moderation@vrchat.com mentioning their username and what they've done and the mod team can investigate.
And since it seems they're out to ruin people's day, you can search for their username (social > search box, top right) and block them so they won't be a problem for you any more.
Assuming the block function has been fixed, it's been flaky lately from what I've heard.
Sure, but I meant a channel where people can see who to avoid...
Such a thing would be too difficult to manage and very open to potential abuse.
It would be very easy to just make something up about a user and suddenly people think they're a terrible person.
Like the LA has a channel like that...
Do try to only ping admins if it's an emergency that needs urgent attention.
If you know their in game name, you can report them to the google form in #moderation-reports.
If not, you can send your output log to moderation@vrchat.com. Including the time that the crash happened.
poor tupper
just letting u guys know
Just telling us know without also reporting him has no effect btw ;p
So make sure you still do it
I'm glad you're telling us, Tupper just gets way too many pings as is
i just seen that he was the only 1 online as an admin so i pinged
That makes sense, but it's likely that 100 people are reported daily, so it's best to use the #moderation-reports instead of pings. They can't do much without the output log and timestamp anyways (or some related information, at least)
ok i did it
Thank you
Well I'm not really that surprised to see you with knives instead of your body simply because it's yours to have a fucking Dutch oven in here for a while and love the Tourette and I adore pale people who look like corpses and insane British airways to have a fucking Dutch soccer game on Saturday in the United States government agencies for anything romantic and insane British Columbia university's mailman bag to use at any time again and again until you were on the ground in a positive attitude towards me in the shower Advil with you around.
Nice Ulysses reference
That sentence is slightly confusing to me
LOL, i managed to glitch out the MMD stage
me and someone else both picked a song at the same time
people here are singing diamonds in the sky but it says Little Apple is selected, and i'm not seeing any models nor hearing any song
so
bit of a weird question
but what is the "norm" for vrchat marrying
do i have to have a male model to even get a chance 

basically vrchat marrying is normal now
but i want to know if i really need a male avatar
because most male avatars are shit
I don't think that's the case
all my friends and all their friends get married
i basically have weekly weddings to attend to lmao
and i hear so many people talk about marrying
This is the first I've heard of it in this game
are you active nuff
xd
or do you even attend public lobbies
or deeper stuf
do you have friends
Public lobbies are scary and unsafe
Not all friend circles are into VR weddings
but its not just friend circles
like i atleast hear 1 group of randoms talk about it in public lobby's a day
Not a big suprise.
U wont hear much if u sit with same ppl.
Yeah I've talked to people and listened in on plenty of conversations
In my case i sit only in friends+ and my internet is literally bullshit from 1985 so it takes a lot of time to load into new world o download people avatars
Yeah. If u make it urself and if itll look like a female
Just be lesbian
Like me
^o^
Same
You calling moi avatar shit ๐ ?
Fight
i cant use your avatar oclac
pfft
eh
what does being lesbian have to do with avatars
tf
Still c:
Having both people use female avatars
oh that works
2 girl avatars can marry? Duh
Lesbian sadly unchristian marriage
Im bi lesbian and christian
Quick, break his kneecaps
euro that would just make you bi.
Mmm
n8 shuddup you are my bae โค
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should i stay as shimakaze or should i try to fix yamato aswell
hmm
oh god
is there a wedding dress yamato or shimakaze
Stay as the loli slut
Doubt it, you'd have to mix and match that yourself bud
haga
my loli's are actual loli's tho
not legal loli's
plus my lolis are not really like that
i need to find a loli like that.
sheet
i still need to watch more anime xd
aanyway
nate, thats gon be hard '
i mean i literally just gained experience yesterday to do visemes, eye tracking and dyn bones
like wut
also i dont own my shimakaze model so getting a wedding dress for it gon b reaaaaal hard
unless i build a different version of shima myself just for wedding
Can't you find a model and do a head swap
why the head swap
So?
shrug
maybe i can find a wedding shima
sec
nop
theres one with a wedding ish kinda dress
but thats the young shima
that'd be illegal
xd
It's not illegal if it's in VR

but it'd look so weird
because young shima is a sleepy kinda girl
and older shima is a sexy energetic person
ill just see if i can get a vrchat gf ANYWAY.
i mean all my relationships so far have gone much further then vrchat
i just want a casual one reee
buying gf 50k
50k of what?
roblox coins
VR Bux
Ill take 0 and im urs
Just tell me about you a bit, i dont want to get annoyed or dissapointed lul
Oh i thought u were talking about me lol
Pizza (no pineapple, lots of meat), hentai, lewd, memes, suicidal thoughts, no will to live, few other mental issues, mute
marry me
๐ online dating again i see
you are like me
Go back to sleep
Well suicide together later on ๐ค
yall take it to the pms
Mmmhm... getting scared of dying i see
Im ready to die
Oh fuck uh.
Dont one month me plox
Just message me @nova flower if u really want to.
Hai EuroPantsu
How is it going?
Pretty good i think. I forgot tgt school so i wasnt on half of lessons
Still around 1h more
I finally finished all my coursework, so no more "full day working on some shitty project" for me.
i'm taken but i'll take that 50k if you want
lmao
i didn't say i would do anything in return

Accepting bf applications, just deposit $2,000,000 and I'll consider it
Not sure if worth
What do you offer
im in if free snuggles are included 
snuggs and tuggs
Goye
no u
Yes me. ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)

๐ค
i agree






why cant i upload my avatars from unity it Vrchat
Does it give you an error? Which SDK version are you using?
Your trying to upload an avatar where the ID is already linked to another account
You're trying to upload an avatar which has an ID associated with another account, for some reason.
Well i know why ๐
Lol wow, what are the chances of randomly hitting a UID?
a 32 character string can be made in like 2*10^54 ways
This is probably just a case of a downloaded project/avatar
I'd imagine that the unique ID's are actually distributed uniquely
It is
Otherwise, there's always the birthday paradox
Atleast im willingly to bet my money that its a downloaded project
Logged 12 hours yesterday and still no trust system message yet dang
its not just time played though
Oh I know . Iโve been meeting people hitting up worlds and having fun
I'd say if after 24hrs you've been playing VRChat and making new friends and you still haven't received upload privileges then its time to start asking questions. I know the whole after 24hrs thing hasn't been officially confirmed, but I just can't see it being any longer than that. idk, maybe 48 hrs but even that seems a tad excessive.
I had peeps who afk'd for like 35 hours come to me asking why they dont have anything yet 
But at the same time i doubt they really use a VRC acc at times
I hope you told them afk-ing doesn't work
@umbral reef no its cause my last account got banned
and also cause i make avatars for people but i guess u cant have them on two accounts?

Does anyone know how to set your proper height in SteamVR?
I used OpenVR Advanced Settings to manually move my playspace slightly lower, but now I want to see if I can "apply" this change somehow
So that I can reset playspace to a normal value rather than having to readjust every time
I already did the room setup obviously, but it makes me a bit too tall
@umbral reef okey thanks
If I can get the height issue resolved, I can finally ditch the Oculus app
how do you ditch the app ๐
@median basalt u can do i ingame?
I need to do it in SteamVR
I already have my height set correctly ingame
And it works if I have the Oculus app open
But it eats a solid GB of memory
Any chance we will ever be able to upload av via our steam account? Why is this currently not an option.
I know lol but it is going to be a pain to add all my friends etc to the new account
Just curious why we don't have that option via steam
It's going to be an even bigger pain if you wait
Just write down all your friends and make a new account now
Besides, you can't upload anything on a new account, you gotta play for some time
@median basalt really? I'll go ahead and make my new account tonight then. I have a commission being made for me now that I should receive at the end of the month. Do you know how long you have to play to have upload priv?
noone knows
lovely
Nobody knows, they don't tell us that (on purpose, mind you)
Apparently if you "interact with people" for a while, you'll gain privileges at some point
just curious, what is the logic?
We don't know that either lol
They don't tell us anything because they fear we'll abuse the knowledge.
considering you said you'd get it at the end of the month, I assume you'll have upload privs by then
I have over 100 hours on my steam account
So we know literally nothing at all
And hours on Steam doesn't matter unfortunately
right dang okay
@shy nest good point I should be good by then
I feel like the devs and vrchat while they have an awesome product and its free could really do some small things to monetize the game and really bring in some large improvements for their user base
Maybe they get a lot of vc funding idk
anyone know maybe if servers are down ?
They already have ideas for monetization, they just haven't been announced
nothing new in #server-status
"not yet"
oh ok cus i cant upload ty
How do people start using their mic? I mean I have one and all but I don't really know how to start going up to someone and such..
well, you can do anything, talk about their avatar, give your 2 cents on the convo
I mean, it's a little easier than real life since most everyone here is expecting interactions
a little
if I'd say something about someones look irl
that wouldn't come of as well in most cases

show hair
you've... seen me haven't you?
what
Just say "Y-You too"
my heads' a bit hazy recently but not that hazy 
show head
just go into my personal channel cyhann
you need more coffee
@floral aspen fair enough, there is just so much potential with this game haha.
Oh I completely agree. I think one of the things they want to do is allow content creators to sell their own original creations from within the game
don't quote me on that though
CHAIRS NOW PLS
yea that would make total sense and then they get a cut on the transaction
Also 90% of the content here is from Japan anyway
as corny as this sounds
ready player one (the book) really outlined a nice format to make unlimited funds
but vr isn't quite ready for all of that yet imop
not necessarily, obviously their is a fictitious base but there are some real implications of what we will see at some point
again I am referring to the book not the movie
idk only read the book
point still stands
nothing works that way
from societiy to hacking to vr
to copyrights
well to say nothing from the oasis will be implemented in the future of vr is a little naive imop
I mean vr chat already gets around that
Anyways, I was referring more so to the world of the oasis. With the user created worlds, traveling through space in your own air craft or paying for teleportation etc.
Once vr is truly mainstream ish is going to get crazy. Just think how addicting it is now and we are really still in the infancy of vr.
On hgtv they show homes with vr rooms lol when did you ever think you would see that.
people won't pay shit for any of these
some companies allready try
guess what, these aren't vrchat and currently failing

Because the user base isn't there yet
to think that their isn't going to be a complete online vr economy one day is short sighted.
cmon
that's literally against what the web is for
I never said that
but it's nowhere going to be like that movie
cuz it's bad in how it works
yea again I am referring more to the book
u just said that movie haha
yea that and companies selling our data
how do i fix this http://prntscr.com/jht8d0
when uploading an avatar, I cannot publish yet due to the new trust program. How long do I have to wait or be in game to receive that email that I am now allowed?
Should have translated the shape keys in blender before exporting.
@vocal shard apparently no one knows
Question, if ill make a world, that is lets say full of gore or vore (i wont do that kind of thing hell no), and ill keep it Private
Can it get taken down/removed or could it possibly affect my account? (Ban etc)
oof
my work just sitting there
@vocal shard just curious how many hours do you have under that account?
@strong pelican @vocal shard started my account about a week ago. Have roughly 36-42 hours on account
Still havenโt gained privileges
well apparently not enough...
I 12 hour logged yesterday and I was meeting new people and everything having fun and all
Can the mods not address this or are we just going to be left in the dark?
Gonna be left in the dark most likely
The main purpose of all of this is to moderate hackers /avatar spammers
hmm
seems like people could just report those people in game and the vrchat mods could review and ban as needed
yeah but with no time frame for the people who want to create...
Believe me I have a wedding in less than two weeks and my avi is ready to upload so Iโm just silently waiting while I play for the notification
In game
i never get al this mariage stuff 
@waxen shadow can you dm me when you get passed I would love to know what the cut off is.
I donโt really believe itโs a cut off my dude
then what would it be haha
I believe itโs just a whole mess of you jumping worlds . Logging hours making friends etc
They said in the patch notes itโs different for different people
ugh that sounds awful lol
I just want to create with my friends that were grandfathered in Dx
From what it sounds like itโs a probably a points system
I wish I could just transfer my steam profile then I would be good to go ๐ฆ
Same dude . Got over 350 hours on my steam
I honestly don't understand why we can't do that should be super easy on their side
it's not that easy if you want it to be seamless as in have friends and stuff transere over too, and there currently is other things that have way more priority then those quality of life features.
the hell's the deal with all these people and their virtual weddings
it's called erp
foreplay for the wedding night ofc

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Oof
@ruby needle that is understandable, seems like it should be as easy as putting in a user name and pass tho
lmao
The only thing you really can do is just play the game and hope for the best
its definitely not that easy Ensane
you need a way to authentificate with your steam account. then create a new account that then gets linked for EVERY database entry so you still have all your friends, and they have you.
and all that has to be implemented in a safe non exploitable way into the infrastructure
gotcha
when you find a nice model, than accidently click another and can't find the previous world Me = dead.
or do it the OAuth way like reasonable adults and not have separate vrchat/steam accounts, just vrchat accounts you can log into via steam :x
@ruby needle I guess I was thinking if you could just use the steam authentication but it sounds like it isn't that easy
hi people
What are the requirments for uploading avatars? My friend a new account like half a week ago and she is still unable to upload anything.
@waxen oar welcome to the club lol
For compirision i could upload stuff on my account the next day i made my account
accounts made after 4 May have to wait some arbitrary amount of time to upload anything, and i'm not so sure it's purely time.
word around is minimum 24h but also other factors
play the game normally, make some friends and go around worlds
you'll get a notification/mail once you are verifyed for uploading 
how long before people starting selling accounts that have been approved for uploading
cause thats going to be a thing
is there anyway to get in touch with a vr chat dev
not directly
if you play VRChat long enough you might run into one in game though if you're lucky
Yea
I met ron
1 of my friends met tupper and he spammed tupper with particles
L
Lol
@inner cape how do i do that?
@vocal shard you can email hello@vrchat.com
anyone here using a kinect for body tracking?
Cant tlak in this chat how to rip models from games @vernal wing
oh ok
Ayy the new cats 8.0 update is lit
yeah it looks really cool
What are the new features?
Show me some tiddy physics ๐
it can merge weight painting and armatures now. So stuff like head swaps have just become super easy
Oh snap, I can finally stop using pmx editor?
yup
Oh boi
you used pmx?
I did for one model
kms'd my existance
and figured out how to do in blender
and hated myself not for trying to do so earlier
๐ซ
I used to use mmd and pmx back in the day, already had experience in it
๐ Negative ghost rider
sweats they've been purged, never to see the light ever again
And I'm glad they're gone
lmao
Yikes
I guess this runs a bit deeper than I thought
sorry for bringing your trauma back up
Just a crazy kid with crazy dreams, now I'm grown with crazy dreams
hail satan
Hail you?
Well, the only Satan I'm hailing is this one
never heard of him
I know a Hugh Jackman
I call him Jacked Hughman
sometimes you have people with names that could describe something
and they just
become the description

^
Do they ever reply to emails from hello@vrchat.com?
well... do they?
saa
?
just a bit bitter because I've been tracking down the last 30 videos by someone I follow
even some relatively recent stuff got deleted and it's ruining my outlook on life
yes that's truly dramatic
ww
k...
i definitely don't have fans but sometimes there are those videos you just have to delete
you could just not make em

zing
^
Delet
the worst thing is when you have one channel from a really long time ago
to be fair the videos I'm after are actually just set to private, so if I hacked his acc(.............. ) ... nope
and it's got the cringiest shit
I see it as a monument if anything
i have so many people on my friends list that i dont even know and at this point i am too afraid to ask
well at least 10 years ago
but you can't get rid of it because you abandoned the email adress and all long ago
lol
hope nobody finds out then
just ask owo
"who are you"
works every time
everyone on my list is someone i've talked to either ingame or here
anyway remember kids
once more than 10 ppl know you did a vid
it's on the web forever
so think twice 
Ow boy a mention
@covert chasm Did it fix audio issues or nah?
"I SAID LEAVE ME ALONE"
this is silly
oh boy maybe i shouldn't have posted that vrchat video the other day
i think one of my friends shared it to reddit and it got a couple of views
i mean
on the other hand if you let them leave without adding them, chances are you'll never meet them again
ohh?
Test failed :^)
discord works
test
Wait a second ๐ค
I might know the problem im having with discord
:(
Mouse without borders might be the one messing things up
@elfin cloak read the announcement before spamming things please
read the announcement
lol no
does anyone mind me asking how long you have to play before you can create custom avatars?
it's not just time
can go between 24-40 hours from what i've seen
appears to depend on activity as well
without any official explanation on how the system works people are just guessing, and it seems based not just on time, but how many worlds you visit, how many friends you got
wait there is a pasta for it
Being able to upload isn't solely based on your playtime. There are other factors that are included to you getting your upload permission.
Once you do get it, you will receive an in-game notification and an email saying that you have gotten the permission to upload user content.

copied to my private support document 
probably have to log into the sdk in unity 10 times as well. who knows tbh
Would be great if there was a testing environment for new avatars
that indeed
where you didnt have to log into vrchat
that way you can find out what the hell is wrong with your avatar without ahving to boot up and connect
Depends what type of support you need
If its for avatars throw it in #avatars-2-general
If its simple stuff throw it first in here so others can help
If its about a bug throw it in #user-support-old
custom avatar upload privileges
If its insane matrix level problems email support@vrchat.com --
Ow
lemme copy paste something
or he could scroll up 10 lines
Once you do get it, you will receive an in-game notification and an email saying that you have gotten the permission to upload user content.```
Tl;dr Just play the game with your VRC account
but for how long?!?
Bruh
lol

if you absolutely can't wait and you got a friend with upload privileges, you can have them upload it then put it on a avatar pedestal in a private world. you can then make that your launch world
How long have you played so far?
As being able to upload avatars without showing them off to friends aint fun anyway
Guess
i was a dumbass and played 4 hours on my steam and not use my vrchat account lol
Yikes
Well then how long did you play in total?
or just wait for the mail / message because time is not the only factor 
i used my vrchat at 4 hours
I mean
that's not exactly dumb, but making and playing on a vrchat account is more vital than ever i guess
3 hours on my vrchat account oof
kill me
i had a few hours on steam until i found out i needed a vrchat account to upload
100+ years to go
never dealed with steam cus for future native oculus version again
Big odds you need more then 25+ hours to get a proper trust score
But as we said, there is no time gate so just playing is the best way
there really should be a notification about that when you start playing, unless i missed it
yes
And what is the fun of showing off new avatars if its only to strangers and not your friends
Well there is a canny.io request to swap the name of steam accs to guess accs
3h 
i have vrchat friends....and real friends...
not many real friends...only 3 real friends
isn't having people compliment your avatar what this game is really about?
see, you need more real friends
go onto the streets and just send friend requests 
no
Jup its all about bragging rights within the game and memes
why would you care about ppl complimenting you
it's 2018
having an ego is sooo 2017
ah yes, i forgot it was current year. i was also joking

Insult yourself and others, it's 2018 bois
shut up slut
What did you say, thot?
calm down.....
your species a feces
You're right
Also a question
why the fuck would a website add this big top bar... https://i.imgur.com/Uu3ximW.png
i cant read for shit on my small laptop
SHARE THE STORY
The announcement ping doesnt go away. Im triggered
i have 7 vrchat friends
restart discord
Where can I find the Terms of Service for VRChat?
i see most of those things every single day in the pug
never seen a moderator though
@opaque remnant thank you
These streamer cam updates turn me into a giddy schoolgirl
Nothing wrong with that
The age section of the EULA always makes me laugh
I'll bet ten dollars that some VRChat users are ten years old
Lol
I can understand if there's tens of thousands of users that some rules like these get broken
That's literally just life m8
I blame the parents before blaming the company
oof
Well yeah?
mom i need to sign up for club penguin can you read the EULA for me
club penguin is DEAD
no u

Company just needs to throw it in there ToS and take action once they find out a user is not old enough
They dont have to go hunting for them according to the law
What is dumb lmao
sleepy



irrelevant
no u
RIPD
@umbral reef agreed
Well to be fair one way its not that dumb for the companies side but from an legal side its legit an "Oi dont K?"
lel
ToS says not to use content in VRChat "...that a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, profane, indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, hateful, or otherwise inappropriate"
Define "reasonable"
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Reasonable+Person (disclaimer: i am not a lawyer, i just know how to google)
That is a dope website 
What a normal, dry cut well functioning human would judge as those things
sold for robox bucks
embarassing ๐ค
Well it looks like "technical" user data is recorded anonymously, which is plausibly acceptable
But this is a free service. Where is the catch
is there a way of turning off motion blur for vrchat?
Which multibillion dollar multinational company is being sent our user data
I don't see mention of affiliates getting the data
But this doesn't make sense
Who wants user data of a bunch of anime girls licking each other?
Well beside that there are invesors like HTC dont think they earn money right now
Plenty of start ups in the tech world work like that
The platform has to be profitable somehow
Grow fast, monetize later
Ow investors and dreams
That is how a company like Space X works
i think many websites would love data of anime girls licking each other
i visit a few
They made jack shit money at first and the risk was super high
He managed to talk down the risk, got money and now it looks like an good investment
Or Tesla lmao
yeah
High end specialized cars taht earned ya almost nothing
elon musk is cool
Not its a wide spread more normal cars that they cant build fast enough
though i sometimes wonder if he's going to turn on us one day
In my opinion the money and value come from world builders and users supporting world builders
Guy knows how to advertise shit and sell his products
make an independant colony on mars and nuke the earth
World builders for VRChat are being paid?
No, but that's a potential revenue source
Donations at max
Do they have to pay VRChat?
So you're saying...
The game is legit only known for being creative and its the main thing that is special about VRC compared to tohers
others*
Tipping a world Creator and VRChat taking a cut would be a great revenue model
VRChat is run by privacy-respecting, non money-grubbing people?
I mean money is important eventually
VRChat could potentially survive on crowdfunding like Patreon
You mean like wikipedia
Also most peeps using VRC do not mind spending money
VR is not really a cheap man hobby in general
do you ever feel guilty when wikipedia has the message asking for donations and you ignore it
I donate to wiki
Every other year i do it now
Not every time they hound me, but a couple times in the last few years
i'd probably do it if i had a consistent source of money
If I had a consistent source of quality worlds to donate to how will I be able to afford my Model 3???
^^/
My only concern is the freedom of speech, or lack thereof
Its a company
They dont have freedom of speech and dont lend it to people
It must have been a deal they made with whoever funded them
If a company wants to randomly ban every 10th user they can
Why stop at the 10th? There's too many users on VRchat to survive. We must eradicate at random half of all users
i swear i laughed when i saw that mini model s
it was on display next to a model x
the x was pretty cool
no model y
It's electric, the little car
:(
Or perhaps they feel compelled to conform to international hate speech laws
Apparently can go 6-8 miles an hour
models s, 3, and x
And/or being Commiefornians
Too s3xy
๐ youtube does not agree there
That's because Google shekels
Google buys up half the known universe, nobody seems to care
Google has a hiden monopoly that is all
Then we start having problems with their services and people wonder why
Righty?
elon made a joke out of it saying said company killed sexy
no
that's what happened with the model 3
they originally wanted to make it an E
What do you mean by "Righty"
rights
afaik there haven't been any official statements regarding a potential model Y
but it might come to be at some point in the future
intellectual property?
lot of model creators are putting up not to be used with VRchat
oh yeah it was
my bad
anyway I hope the model y annoucement comes with a sexy back track

So you're saying that some other company "stole the IP rights" for this proposed model car
@vocal shard
Just another story to log in my "reasons to be against IP Law" folder
nah
his own fault for not getting it in time
ip rights are very important
iirc the rights to the name were already held by someone else before elon came up with it
it's only when elon decided to use the name without knowing that it was copyrighted that they got in trouble
"IP Rights are very important"
Explain
Intellectual property
be a guy
have an idea
make it
someone steals basically all you did
????
k
What is being stolen?
You can have an idea, plans to make an idea and that be stolen.
Something physical? Like a car, or wallet?
That sounds more like plagiarism
Claiming that you are the originator of an idea
Would MMDs be considered intellectual property?
But surely you know that everything is basically a remix of a rehash of a reboot
Inventions are existing ideas stacked on top of each other
hyperbole af m9
plz
if I could just make my own pokemon game
and sell it
that's ok in your book?

True but as long as something is different in some way. Say a cup holder and painted red. That would seperate it enough to be considered its own thing unless it doesnt hold in a court case.
well apple saying they hold the shape of a phone as ip or something is fucking retarded
but that's something else
I remember some game trying to take a common word as their property...
this is this and that is that
nobody said the laws or systems are perfect
ofc there are issues
but abolishing them won't help anyone either
I blame EA
I wouldn't abolish outright. These things take time. I would do it slowly, rolling back the worst offenders, until everyone finally realizes it is generally a bad concept
The laws are in place to protect someones property. For creators having your stuff stole and made a profit for it can hurt the creator



