#vrchat-general-2

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vocal shard
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this is way too much work for someone that just wants to dev

indigo fern
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Before I got my headset I'd sit in the pug and do nothing but listen to the ambient noise while doing homework

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Easy hours

haughty gazelle
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You don't need to develop something you haven't even played

vocal shard
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i'm making a model for someone else

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i plan on playing myself when i get a headset sometime

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Mfw I afkd in voidclub

full tiger
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I still can’t log in

vocal shard
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I come back

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Suddenly 50 ppl

full tiger
vocal shard
ruby needle
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@vocal shard and single digit FPS? cirBaka

vocal shard
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Fps is fine unless I turn the new mirror and everything else on

haughty gazelle
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You know, it needs a size limit for models

vocal shard
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then it dips

haughty gazelle
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Literal size not file size

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And it can be a playermod that world devs can increase if they want to allow large avatars

full tiger
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It’d be the same load in

ruby needle
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i would be very carefully with suck gating features Antivirus-chan

full tiger
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Yaaass. I have hithered into game

haughty gazelle
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Wat

ruby needle
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gating features always exclude parts from groups and experiences

vocal shard
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Suck gating

haughty gazelle
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Sounds lewd

ruby needle
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that is for example a reson why the particle toggle is a really bad option insted of a reasonable limit

vocal shard
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👀

ruby needle
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because then people who make stuff will go all in and those with not good performance have no chance of ever turning them on because of that

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thuse they will lack interaction when all others watch a demo or whatever

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or just simple nice effects on a avatar

haughty gazelle
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I have no idea what you're saying

ruby needle
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that is okay

haughty gazelle
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Or why it's relevant to me wanting a default max size for avatars

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Which would be modifiable at the world level

ruby needle
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what would happen to people who dont fit the size?

haughty gazelle
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Default Avatar

ruby needle
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and what exactly is that?

haughty gazelle
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The one you see in safe mode

rough pulsar
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A default avatar that fits the size requirements?

ruby needle
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but that would exactly mean what i said

haughty gazelle
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I mean if you're stupid enough to make your Avatar the size of a car in Japan shrine I don't care about your opinion

rough pulsar
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I don't see the problem with worlds having a min/max scale limit.
A very good example supporting this is Battle Discs. Having a tiny avatar gives an unfair advantage due to the smaller hitbox.

haughty gazelle
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I'm not saying you can't have larger than average avatars but when I can't see because you're covering things up

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There's a problem

ruby needle
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hmm

full tiger
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It’s someone’s preference

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Just make the menu not transparent

haughty gazelle
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That's irrelevant

rough pulsar
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Also doesn't the pug have a 'size limit' implemented that forces oversized avatar users to respawn?

haughty gazelle
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Idk I never go to that lag fest

ruby needle
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that should be fixed with the new update @full tiger

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the menue renders over everything now

full tiger
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Okay cool

ruby needle
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and you can hit it trough objects

rough pulsar
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I haven't been in VR since the update to try it, but the latest update should have menus forced on top of everything

full tiger
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But everything is taking twice the loading time rn

haughty gazelle
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It really isn't

ruby needle
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im not sure if that isnt just a bug due to all the respwan triggers around it Gallium

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since the pug is full of them

rough pulsar
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Could be a fortunate side effect.

ruby needle
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i belive so

rough pulsar
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Also the pug itself is pretty well performing once it loads in @haughty gazelle it's all the unoptimized users in it that make it a lagfest.

haughty gazelle
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I never said it was the room

rough pulsar
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the way you worded it kinda implied it was, my mistake.

haughty gazelle
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I could have used better working

timber junco
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Unoptimized avatars just gravitate to the pug

haughty gazelle
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Wording*

full tiger
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I just have people blocked by default

haughty gazelle
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What are people doing to display those images that take up your whole screen? I want to do something constructive with that

timber junco
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shaders

rough pulsar
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Screen space shaders, specifically.

haughty gazelle
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I'll have to look into that

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Cus I'd love to be able to display a small notification on everyone's screen in my room

indigo fern
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I saw a guy share an informative PowerPoint using a screen space shader, wish I had remembered what it was about

vocal shard
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People plz atlas

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Inb4 whats atlas?

hasty wedge
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r u making fun of my 37 drawcalls

haughty gazelle
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I just use Google maps

full tiger
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Wot

rough pulsar
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Imagine not atlassing your textures and having more than 10 materials on an MMD-based avatar.

haughty gazelle
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Atlas joke @full tiger

indigo fern
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Now imagine 20 of those people

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Death

vocal shard
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is there really anything stopping people from making furmark avatars?

haughty gazelle
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I'm going to bed, goodnight random people

vocal shard
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night!

rough pulsar
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furmark?

full tiger
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Like furries

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?

vocal shard
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the gpu stress test program

timber junco
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There is not

full tiger
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Oof

timber junco
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Apart from poly limit

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But I imagine it's mostly shaders

rough pulsar
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I mean, if you made a fur shader maybe. But if you went around fucking with people with it that's a great way to get blocked and possibly banned.

vocal shard
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I have 15 cuz i have weapons and emissions

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i love the freedom, but man can it be abused

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sadly

rough pulsar
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You might be able to cut down on that a fair bit with emission maps @vocal shard
Depends on your setup.

vocal shard
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I got 2 weapons on my back

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Wait

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Hmmm

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My eye

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My head

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My chest

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My legs

rough pulsar
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Are each of those a material?

shut scroll
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pleas e say no

vocal shard
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he pleads the fifth

rough pulsar
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Pretty much the only justifiable reason to have more than one material is if part of the model needs a specific shader to look right and can't be modulated by a texture of some sort.

For example, I am a lazy shit and I could bring my avatar down to 3 materials from 4.
Body, Skin, Eyes, Hair.
I could easily 'merge' the Eyes and Body as they both use the Unity Standard Shader, I'd just need to make a smoothness map that sets the eye regions to what they need to be.
It'd be difficult to merge the Skin with anything as I have a (work in progress) pre-integrated subsurface scattering shader on it which would be a bugger to even try to merge with, say, the hair or eyes.

ruby needle
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one material in one thing but definitely not 10+

vocal shard
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smoothness map?

umbral reef
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if they had to throw up a cap id vote for 4

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still a lot but nothing insane

ruby needle
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i wouldnt call 4 a lot

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but definitely hard cap at at least 10

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(which is still way to many but a reasonable hard cap no one should be crying over)

umbral reef
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At 10? then nothing would improve lmao

ruby needle
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that is what you think

umbral reef
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I have not found an avatar that did not have dupe materials that resulted in 10

ruby needle
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a lot of mmd's have many materials

umbral reef
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Making a map of them aint a lot of work and aint hard at all

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Just takes time

ruby needle
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aint a lot of work yes

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but only if people care

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yes, 10 is definitely a lot optimizable

umbral reef
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Being forced is away to care--

ruby needle
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but a no brain cap people should not cry about

umbral reef
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Else peeps would not decimate stuff

ruby needle
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unfortunately atlasing is not as simple

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cat's definitely can be a help but breakt so many stuff at times.
but at least force partial atlasing

umbral reef
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Cant cat like do that fully automated for most stuff

ruby needle
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the auto atlasing unfortunately is not that great

umbral reef
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Well i get that as its something hard for a program to do

ruby needle
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the thing is it lacks some functions i dont understand why they arent in there

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it always scales and tears meshes apart

umbral reef
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But even manually
I have not found a detailed or easy tutorial for it (for VRC alone)
But for normal blender stuff and unity exporting i found a few that go pretty detailed into stuff

ruby needle
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there is no function to only allow it to move meshes and not scale them so they 100% are the same textures just ab map of them

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also i'd love to see 8k texture support

umbral reef
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8k texture support would be lewd

vocal shard
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damn

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i got a visit by 1 of the devs

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in my private world i made

uncut trail
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where the wakanda avatr at?

meager karma
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cant use the chair on my avatar anymore. RIP fun

vocal shard
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The chairs will be coming back in the future

iron heart
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I dont even wanna see 4k irl people.

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8k textures is like madness

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Fuck, i still dont want HD people and their greasy pores

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Blackheads everywhere

vocal shard
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Yeah

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Irl sucks

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Every1 so ug irl

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VR is superior

azure charm
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What is happening on VRchat

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Sounds like chaos

shut scroll
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it always is

chrome grotto
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Have a beautiful day everyone kannabear pikachu_dancing MelonBread

rough pulsar
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@ruby needle Pretty sure 8k textures are supported, they're the max unity allows if I remember correctly. Just have to make sure you set the size limit to 8k in the image import settings.

vocal shard
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I'm contemplating selling my Switch for a mixed reality headset

torn cape
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man there's one thing i'd love to get out of vrchat rn, and that's to have 25 people in The Great Pug at once and get constant 90 fps

umbral reef
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If everyone has perfectly optimized avatars that aint to much of a problem

rough pulsar
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If you head to the improv theater there's a blue & white avatar pedestal in there that's very high performing. Get everyone into that and you'll all have 90fps in most places.

torn cape
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It's a shame that so many people just don't care about performance at all

rough pulsar
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It's what the 20k poly limit is 'supposed' to be for, to subtly nudge people towards optimization research.

umbral reef
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Isnt that avatar just one draw call?

rough pulsar
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Yup.

umbral reef
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Then like 3 peeps with that avatar is like one normal avatar then 😂

rough pulsar
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There's one backstage that you can't get to without the passcode (no I don't have it and won't give it out if I did) that's one draw call and has no IK so it's insanely well performing.

umbral reef
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No ik? thats pretty neat

rough pulsar
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We did a test once with a very full theater (30+ users total) and the framerate shot up when everyone was forced into it.

torn cape
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It just sucks when someone has an avatar where every individual strand of hair is simulated 🤔

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i mean i'm exaggerating of course but you get what i mean

umbral reef
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Then you yell at those peeps
Tell them there avatar laggs and they should feel bad ad need to learn how to optimize stuff

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Ow for real though
there are legit people with that out there

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And they are ignorant about them being laggy

rough pulsar
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The best way to do it is confirm that their avatar is causing fps drops, then offer to help them improve it.

umbral reef
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"If im in a room with no one else no one complains"

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reee

rough pulsar
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Telling someone their stuff is shit and just leaving it there helps nobody and is more likely to make them hostile towards you.

torn cape
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"get a better pc!"

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cries in 8700k.

rough pulsar
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If you're going to criticize someone, at least try to offer a solution.

Unless they're a friend and it's kind of a running joke how they're 6 meshes and 7 materials. ;D

umbral reef
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Well ofcours you do not say it like i just said it xD
You explain it properly and get them-- Well gallium is saying the stuff

torn cape
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CPUs should hurry up and get better already tbh

umbral reef
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They are super stronk already

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Just that VRC is a single core game

rough pulsar
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Game engines just need to be able to thread better.

torn cape
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... Ohh, it runs on one core?

rough pulsar
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Recent versions of unity and unreal and such are getting better at it though.

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unity 5.6, and by extension vrchat is very limited to one core, with maybe some small bits and pieces handed off to others.

torn cape
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oof, there's your problem

rough pulsar
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Yup.

torn cape
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Well, people should still try to optimize their stuff, but

umbral reef
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Wait the unity version can run more then one core right?
Was it not a lot of other factors that could not?

rough pulsar
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A game engine that fully threads everything (and I get how massive a task that is) would run amazing on my threadripper

torn cape
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It would help pretty much every modern chip, tbh

umbral reef
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Man just a quad core engine could do wonders for most games

torn cape
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But yeah, Threadripper would demolish stuff

rough pulsar
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Yeah

umbral reef
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Most cpu's got a quad by now

rough pulsar
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Especially if it benefits from hyperthreading

umbral reef
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Jup

torn cape
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I was gonna get an AMD chip but the 8700k was compelling, not gonna lie

rough pulsar
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I've only ever had AMD cpus on desktops, and intel on laptops.

umbral reef
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What is an neat MoBo?

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I need to get a new one but boy

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so much to pick from

rough pulsar
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Not sure. I pretty much upgrade my desktop once every 6-7 years or something, and go all the way each time.

umbral reef
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Well same

forest pendant
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So uh, how long does it take you to be allowed to upload avatars? I already put in like 20 hours or so logged through steam and ehhhhh, i kinda hope it doesn't take too long since i already spent a decent amount of time in the game

rough pulsar
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I think it's based on your logged in time with a vrchat account. If you're logging in with steam I don't think that counts.

forest pendant
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yeah that's why i'm asking actually, i put in all those hours in the steam account and i just now learned that you need to be logged with the vrchat one to use the unity features, si just kinda hope i don't have another 20 hours to put in just to do that stuff

torn cape
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This is my first Nvidia GPU and I'm probably the only one to say this, but I wanna go back to AMD

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Just gotta wait 'til they have a card that beats the 1080 Ti ;p

rough pulsar
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The 1080Ti's are pretty damn nice though.

umbral reef
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Could try email support maybe zoinks asking for time swapping? Maybe they can do an upload check on ya steam acc and copy paste it GWnanamiLaceShrug

torn cape
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I don't really like mine, it's kinda finicky with the clocks

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Sometimes it'll do this weird throttling thing where it says it's running at a high clock speed but the FPS gets cut in half

umbral reef
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Check ya connections then

rough pulsar
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Hm, never encountered that with mine. Then again, mine are in my linux system.

torn cape
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They're fine, it only happens when I OC it over 1961 MHz

ancient kayak
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popcorn

torn cape
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Which is still odd, temps are fine

rough pulsar
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Ah, I don't OC mine so that's probably why.

torn cape
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Unlike with other GPUs it's completely safe

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Worst you'll get is a crash

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You can usually get a lot more power out of it just by setting the power target higher, which is still in board spec

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But neh, I got kinda unlucky with mine, oh well

rough pulsar
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Oh wow, OCing nvidia cards on linux is surprisingly easy. Gonna have to at least enable the options when I get home.

vocal shard
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could i run VRchat in VR on a laptop GWupuGuriThinking

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i know it doesn't pass the steam vr requirements but i don't mind not having a constant 90 fps

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although i also hear there's some BS with nvidia optimus on most laptops that causes a slight delay on headsets

vocal shard
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i wouldn't even try tbh

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explain

umbral reef
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Well your laptop doesnt just have to be strong enough it also needs enough ports

vocal shard
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that depends on the headset really

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i don't know how many ports something as complex as the vive would require but surely there are some headsets that don't need a ton of ports

umbral reef
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vive uses loss the ocu

vocal shard
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i'm not really in a position to be able to afford either of those

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if i got VR it'd probably be a mixed reality headset

umbral reef
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Dont know about those so cant help with that

vocal shard
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i haven't looked too much into specifics but they're supposed to have everything built in

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the headset itself tracks the movement of the controllers

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anyways yeah i wanna know if other people have tried VR on non-VR ready laptops and if it's good enough

lilac swan
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WMR headsets should be much better to use on laptops than other ones if you're gonna do vr on a laptop is all I know

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Because they don't require as much resources to run as vive or rift

vocal shard
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hmm, interesting

lilac swan
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So if playing on desktop is totally out of the question then I'd recommend looking into getting a WMR

vocal shard
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yeah i don't have a desktop

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nor can i afford to upgrade to one at the moment

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i'd probably have a WMR headset by now if it weren't for the concerns with not being able to run anything well enough

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i know i probably could but it's still a lot of money to risk

lilac swan
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Going with a WMR for now and get another VR HMD few generations later works too, if you got a better pc then

vocal shard
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maybe i'll actually have a job by then so yeah

lilac swan
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Might be better off asking on any of the VR subreddits if your specs are good enough for WMR

vocal shard
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will do, thanks

vocal shard
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also speaking of later generations of VR the stuff oculus showed off a while ago was pretty awesome

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at least i probably won't miss out on that whenever it's commercially available

kindred glacier
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when you have a ryzen 1700x and a 1080 and only 3 people in the room

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and only get 30 fps max

vocal shard
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does it fluctuate below 30 or is it locked there?

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sounds to me like it could be an issue with some setting somewhere that's artificially lowering the framerate

polar rose
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or the ppl in your room have horrifically optimised avatars 😛

vocal shard
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i mean yeah but i don't think only 3 people would impact performance that bad

floral aspen
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what world were you in?

winged quartz
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oh

kind folio
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what world lol

vocal shard
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@kind folio

kind folio
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hi

tacit plank
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It's possible. One of my friends has a tiny fireball effect which almost halfs my FPS if I look at it

vocal shard
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Hi

tacit plank
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So it's equal to about 15 avatars

signal wren
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Why is the shininess to my armor gone now?

winged quartz
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did you wash it 🤔

gentle needle
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Did you accidentally press ctrl F?

winged quartz
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Ctrl F seems to be removed

gentle needle
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Could be that he pressed it earlier and didn't notice.

floral aspen
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2018.1.1 enabled a feature to convert shaders on non-friends to Standard with Ctrl-F. This feature is not complete or ready for release, so it has been removed

hasty wedge
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whens the hotfix reeee

earnest harbor
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if you're using a standard shader then it depends on the lighting in the world

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most worlds have ok lighting but quite a few of them have bad lighting which makes normal shaders look horrible

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flat colors or just completely black with no details shown

vocal shard
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is there a way to loop emote animations?

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Only manually?

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rip

lilac swan
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Making a generic avatar with that animation applied to it

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And switching to said avatar

vocal shard
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but how does that make it loop automatically 🤔

reef gale
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Could just use the debug feature

median basalt
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The joke is that generic rigs are bugged and emotes never stop

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@vocal shard if you want to loop emote-style animations and have a stop button, you'll want them on a gesture instead

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Disable your own mesh/skinned mesh renderer, enable a duplicate of your model which plays the animation

vocal shard
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oh i forgot gestures were a thing

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lol

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anyone get the upload privileges lately?

inner cape
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Lmoa

analog hull
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do you guys know if vrchat have any ports that i should open? Because i think my router might be blocking something from vrchat

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i just keep having trouble with loading screens

vocal shard
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i think it uses random ports, just opened it twice and the ports were different

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its probably related to server issues or your network connection

analog hull
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the thing is, nobody else who i play with is having trouble with it

kind folio
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I mean ur name is loading

carmine dew
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@analog hull wait what is exactly happening? Or is it fixed now?

analog hull
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i just get stuck on loading screen, saying "loading" for so long, and then it just disconnects and connects to my account again some times, and alot of times just end up on a private world (when trying to join friends)

raven silo
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@vocal shard to enough space on your hard drive

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each world you go to install on your hard drive

analog hull
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theres more than space xD

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like, its not downloading that is the problem, its the loading itself

vocal shard
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stupid question how do i request a mod

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fill out the form

zinc solar
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Is the 24hr 1 map limit based on time last map was made public or public requested?

vocal shard
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Is there a way to automatically delete files (textures,models,materials,shaders etc) that u dont use in ur unity?
Lets say i have 500 files and i dont use 100 of them.
Is there a way to somehow let the program see which file isnt used at all and delete it?

cold talon
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@zinc solar public requested from what i know

vocal shard
carmine dew
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@analog hull oh oh oh have you updated vrchat?

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Both times it needed?

zinc solar
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Hmmm... That makes me curious. are unused assests/textures I never use in my map that just take up space affect map? I'm usually messy and never organize things and keep assests I usually replace later on in a random folder

analog hull
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i have

vocal shard
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Mhm alright, its not exactly deleting it but its exporting things the project uses.
So i could do that export thing, then simply remove every file from project and re-import the things i exported, right?
(wow explaining 10/10)

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yea, in a new project

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i think that would work

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Oh in a new project, i was thinking about just re-importing the exported files

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I dont really know how to explain that properly but i can just try it myself in new unity project

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Sorry lol

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importing a package would just merge/copy, so you'd still have all the unused leftovers in your assets

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but yea, starting a new project and importing your package would be a clean start-ish kinda deal

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Thats why im going to delete all of them first

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Then import the exported files

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that could work! as long as you have stuff backed up just in case

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Cuz doing that the way like on the "tutorial" it only exports used files

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it doesnt export unused files

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Ima create new unity project in a few and try it

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ah man i wonder what a VRchat world with a curved world shader would be like

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possibly nauseating

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but would be cool to have an animal crossing kinda effect

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Oh wow, i used shader renders double if not more in VR

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fucks with ur eyes "a bit"

safe prism
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means something with a material scuffed

vocal shard
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I used that shader on not moving cube in my world

carmine dew
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Well weirdly enough some updates won't load for vrchat unless you 100% quit discord and try and run through steam

safe prism
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should make a new material with a diff name but all the same textures and stuff, should be fine, unless it's literally a shader just not built for stereo rendering

vocal shard
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Second thing, i think

safe prism
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oh

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hm

vocal shard
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I can try to send it to u if u want

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and u can have a look

carmine dew
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My friend has a model thats an image but if you see it in vr you see like 8 of her

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4 on your left eye 3 on your right

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Or a 2d model to be exact

safe prism
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i'm tempted to do something cancerous and render a different model per eye

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xd

vocal shard
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I can send you that shader then lol

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im going to trash it anyway

safe prism
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i can write one, nbd

vocal shard
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Oh shoot

zinc solar
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Would censored body pillows be counted as 'too lewd' if I censor with uganda knuckles face?

carmine dew
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101%

viscid juniper
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i was kinda wondering for a while why we cant see our online friends anymore on the vrchat website

runic trench
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Hiya quick question, anyone here having random problems since steamvr updated with vive controllers and sometimes baystations stop responding

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Or the baystations turning off mid use

zinc solar
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There is a guy who keeps going to the Never have I ever map and his avatar always crashes everyone

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It's a lewd anime image. be careful in that map

umbral reef
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Then they can find out who did it and get him banned GWnanamiRankoPog

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!outputlog

floral flaxBOT
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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

umbral reef
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to get the log btw

zinc solar
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His name is Gakuto

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He jumped in lobby when I default all the avatars and everyone crashed as soon as he jumped in

vocal shard
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just send output log lol

ruby needle
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yes send the log, while it is the most likely assumtion it can also have been bad timing

vocal shard
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^

vocal shard
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me; waiting for vrchat to fix that bug that makes you join your friends previous world that they went to when following them

topaz notch
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I only get that if I havent updated when a update came otu

floral aspen
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thats more likely a server issue rather than a VRC bug

barren whale
#

this game is always broke, i want my money back

vocal shard
#

it WAS FREE

barren whale
#

can't get anything past this guy

#

he's far too clever

vocal shard
#

of course ye cant

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im a trap

stable aurora
#

deathrap

mighty galleon
#

Boobytrap

stable aurora
#

goobertrap

mighty galleon
#

Goofygoobertrap

stable aurora
#

yeah

vocal shard
#

traps?

stable aurora
#

yeah

vocal shard
#

yo

#

anyone here use the 360 kinect for fullbody tracking?

gritty patio
#

@vocal shard I do

vocal shard
#

two questions:

  1. does your hip/legs rotate? im finding a lot of conflicting reports on this
  2. do you use driver4vr or kinectVR?
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thank you!

subtle prawn
gritty patio
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With the current version of driver4vr, there's 3 methods for leg rotation. The first uses inverse kinematics, which does it based on the rest of your body. They also have two other options of directly using the kinect skeleton (which is very beta at the moment) and just using the orientation of the headset.

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But of course, using the kinect will be nowhere near the accuracy of the vive trackers.

vocal shard
#

thank you! its been a bit hard to find anything. also, im already aware about the vive trackers thing. unfortunately i only have an oculus, but fortunately i already had a 360 lying around

#

bought the PC adapter a few days ago 😄

floral aspen
#

I have an xbox one kinect, but sadly the adapter for it has been discontinued

vocal shard
#

me too, when i saw that it was $260 i just walked away GWnanamiNotLikePapika

vocal shard
#

hmm

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i forgot that the kinect works for full body tracking

#

can it be combined with any VR setup?

#

considering the standalone xbox 360 kinect is pretty cheap using it for tracking sounds interesting

#

if possible i might consider trying to use that if i get a WMR headset

#

can anyone point me to a good and reasonably priced 360 kinect adapter?

south tiger
#

hi

#

how long should you wait to publish a personal avatar?

iron heart
#

wow, never use vridge/riftcat

#

it like, never works.

#

after about 10 minutes your phone overheats and then in the future if you wanna play again it just doesn't sense your phone lmfao

south tiger
#

what?

vocal shard
#

whats vridge? @iron heart

grim oak
#

its phone vr for pc by using an app on the app store and using a task on your pc

vocal shard
#

🤔

#

"what is english"

iron heart
#

oh well whatever i fixed vridge jn

#

then i remember how disappointed i was last time cause every time i go online

quiet perch
#

I think he mean to essentially use your phone as a vr headset

iron heart
#

there's like screaming BR kids

#

and then there's hella french people

#

._.

#

least i played a bit

#

man, i totally prefered ugandan knuckles cause at least they spoke english, ffs

grim oak
#

yeah

quiet perch
#

There is a way to do it with like google cardboard and Samsung gear vr. BUT. You run into the problem of latency because it uses a network like Wi-Fi or Ethernet.

uneven plank
#

Hi

quiet perch
#

Salutations

barren whale
#

There's a third party company making the Xbox One kinect adapter now

#

Prices will drop soon

vocal shard
#

would you say it'd be worth waiting for that to happen or should i just buy an xbox 360 kinect as soon as i can

inner cape
#

1 is definetly better than 360

#

I would say, 360 is not worth the trouble.

#

Because setting it up might be a nightmare for some.

vocal shard
#

is there any word on when the xbone kinect adapters will be available?

#

with how expensive they seem to be right now one might as well just get a vive

iron heart
#

yeah.

vocal shard
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

#

One message removed from a suspended account.

iron heart
#

yeap.

inner cape
#

Eh, I don't know. Might as well get a kinect for pc, it's cheaper than an adapter...

iron heart
#

honestly all these workarounds are shit lol

vocal shard
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

inner cape
#

Let's go rant on their forums like people do on this discord, it will speed things up for sure.

vocal shard
#

I just bough the kinect v2, gonna solder on a power adaptert

#

One message removed from a suspended account.

#

One message removed from a suspended account.

inner cape
#

Wot?

vocal shard
#

there are kinects for PC?

inner cape
#

Yeah, there is.

vocal shard
#

hmm

#

on the outside it appears to be identical to the xbox 360 kinect

#

is it any good?

#

oh wait it's also kinda expensive

inner cape
#

I don't know if it's any good.

vocal shard
#

It doesn't work very well. You can get the Kinect v2 (One) for 40 USD I guess, then you can solder on a 12V power adapter yourself if you know how to do that.

#

yeah... i don't

#

then you can buy the super expensive adapter :b

quiet perch
#

12v how many amps?

inner cape
#

Saying as if every single person can soldier stuff as if it was unwraping a candy.

vocal shard
#

3A

#

check it out on youtube first, the tracking is pretty limited and it's a bit of work to set up

#

kinect tracking

#

e w

#

now now

#

its not good lol

#

not everyone can afford the fancy bourgeois vive

#

its like subpar even compared to WMR

quiet perch
#

Dual kinect!? haha ive seen some examples of that and it looked pretty good

vocal shard
#

even just one kinect looks fine to me

#

it's a little janky at times but seems good enough

#

;O

#

L O L

indigo fern
#

I mean, I use WMR and I don't mess up that often

inner cape
#

You can use vive trackers with oculus but pretty sure you need vive base stations as well as the oculus ones. vrpill

vocal shard
#

true 💸

inner cape
vocal shard
#

hmm

#

so is there no cheap alternative to using vive trackers then?

raven silo
#

only Kinect and ps move controller

vocal shard
#

people were just talking about how the kinect is bad 🤔

#

yea, its an alternative but its dogshit lol

raven silo
#

if you want perfect fullbody you buy vive tracker

vocal shard
#

i didn't say perfect

#

just good enough

#

kinda like how i'm planning to settle for a WMR headset instead of a vive

inner cape
#

Xbox 1 then

vocal shard
#

so is the xbone kinect actually decent? maybe people are just calling the 360 one shit

raven silo
#

360 verison hard get it work

inner cape
#

1 is actually decent.

raven silo
#

xbox one work with driver have window 10

vocal shard
#

oh, alright

#

so whenever the price of the adapter for that drops would you recommend it?

inner cape
#

360 is a matter of luck, for some it's a nightmare to set up. For others, it's not.

raven silo
#

check local game store might cheap one

inner cape
#

I would.

raven silo
#

use adapter

vocal shard
#

alright, great to know thanks

#

gamestop seems to have a cheap one

raven silo
#

i would go to nonrband game store

#

like game store sale used old videos games

vocal shard
#

also, just for reference, how much would a standalone vive tracking setup cost?

#

i don't actually know the exact cost of the standalone trackers

raven silo
#

1 vive tracker $100

#

so you need 3 cost $300

vocal shard
#

oof

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yeah kinect it is then

inner cape
vocal shard
inner cape
#

I got 360 from a friend for a symbolic €10. I was lucky it wasn't too much of a nightmare to set up. It works, uh, fine, does it's job good enough for others to go "woah, legs" but it's barely satisfactory from my point of view.

vocal shard
#

i asked before but nobody seemed to have an answer, is there any word on when cheaper xbone kinect adapters will be available?

inner cape
#

If you haven't got an answer, that means no one knows.

vocal shard
#

oh well

#

hmm

full tiger
#

Anyone else have the problem where anything in vrchat takes an eternity to load? Since last night it’s taken me like 20 mins to load any world or avatar

opal tangle
#

how do I take out oculus rift controller battteries x.x

#

they are like supe rstuck

#

im scared of getting shocked lol

quiet perch
#

Controller batteries shouldn't shock you

haughty mountain
#

Does VRChat run on Vista (Windows)?

vocal shard
#

umm

#

probably not

near granite
#

seem to be crashing as soon as i get in the home in vrc wonder why

haughty mountain
#

So does it?

quiet perch
#

I think most here have win7 and up. Its always worth a shot to try.

haughty mountain
#

Okay.

#

My sister wanted to play it but she has Vista

quiet perch
#

If you do end up trying it id like to know how it goes and if it does work or not

haughty mountain
#

Okay

vocal shard
#

blicky stiffy uh

quiet perch
#

Umm wat

tacit wing
#

is anyone else having trouble with the vrchat mods site

#

Everytime i've tried to download a model it gives me a size of 0 kb

vocal shard
#

i recall someone saying that we're not supposed to talk about that site here

#

though i don't recall seeing it in the rules so i'm not sure

tacit wing
#

hm.

small wing
#

dunno where this would go cause im a derp, but where do i find the new ik follower thing in the unity sdk?

vast tulip
#

yeah

vocal shard
#

hey guys where do i go to get crash logs to report players whose avatars crashed my game

#

actually i can probably find those in the game's files on my own

#

hmm, the last crash doesn't seem to have registered as a crash

#

my whole game froze but i closed the window myself so i guess it doesn't count it

#

rip to reporting whoever that was

vocal shard
#

Will they ever raise the poly limit? i mean tupper himself said that polys aren't the main issue, dynamic bones and ( i forgot ) are

raven silo
#

@graceful gorge mostly like not

rancid mortar
#

As I understand it, draw calls are the most disruptive part of avatars

#

(having many of them)

vocal shard
#

Yeah

ancient kayak
#

Help.. my avatar is inside the floor

dim aurora
tacit plank
#

Can a staff member deal with two hackers if I provide the usernames? I'm too lazy to use the report function

#

But if you search their name on the website, their profile pictures will show up as blank

ruby needle
#

no

#

support is only handled trough official ways pretty much everywhere because it needs to be tracked and processed correctly

#

you will also need to have some kind of prove

tacit plank
#

It can't load their image at all, image source is just a broken HTML tag. I'm 99% sure it's because of the "no avatar" hack

ruby needle
#

submit a report torugh teh normal way, include the output logg

tacit plank
#

One of them is called "VRCHAT ADMIN"

#

I shouln't really need proof that it's a troll

ruby needle
#

well that is the name you saw

vocal shard
#

doesnt matter

ruby needle
#

they can change it

tacit plank
#

They can't

vocal shard
#

u still need to either send a log or video proof

#

yes u can

ruby needle
#

they can fake nemes yes

tacit plank
#

There's no numbers after his name, it's not a steam account

vocal shard
#

you just email support lol

#

and they will change your username

tacit plank
#

The account exists on the website, and its image is bugged

#

Any account called "VRCHAT ADMIN" should set off red flags. The user is also online still

ruby needle
#

if that is the case

#

submit a report

#

that should be prove in it self that that account isn't really there for good use

tacit plank
#

He crashed a friend, not me, I have no log. The name and glitched image should be proof enough though

#

Blocks are also logged, he should have quite a few by now

ruby needle
#

again, report trough the official document

dim aurora
#

cant you get your friends logs?

tacit plank
#

That's so much work for dealing with someone obviously bad

vocal shard
#

!outputlog

floral flaxBOT
#

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

ruby needle
#

private support is not a thing
support in nearly any companie is handled trough tickt systems for logging and archiving

vocal shard
#

@tacit plank

ruby needle
#

you should have red the messages Acorn

vocal shard
#

or tell your friends to

#

if they were crashed

#

lol

tacit plank
#

Any staff reading the chat can look up the avatar as well as his mute/block count in 2 minutes though

vocal shard
#

just report it officially

#

like said before

ruby needle
#

the amount of time we talked here you could have filed 10 reports 😄

vocal shard
#

yea

#

lol

dim aurora
#

lol

tacit plank
#

Yeah fuck that still

vocal shard
#

so what

#

there's a system for it, use it

dim aurora
#

your not going to get much help without officially reporting it

vocal shard
tacit plank
#

That's like having to file a police report while being stabbed, it's stupid and I refuse to do it. I will tell my friend that it's a possibility for him though

full tiger
#

I’m not sure the problem but since last night loading anything in game takes over 10 mins. I’ve checked everything on my end

ruby needle
#

did you clear cache, temp and reg already?

full tiger
#

Yes

ruby needle
#

did you do it twice?

tacit plank
#

Some players have that

full tiger
#

There’s nothing left in the cache

tacit plank
#

I know that fullbodytracking can mess with wireless internet

ruby needle
#

i know... twice was a joke cirBaka

tacit plank
#

But no other guesses

ruby needle
#

but only the cache or the temp and registry also

vocal shard
#

its ironic because police will not help you if you're being stabbed

ruby needle
#

you know what

#

they file the report

tacit plank
#

Not in England maybe

ruby needle
vocal shard
ruby needle
#

documenting and writing reports is a big part for things like police, and other emergency services

#

because it needs to be documented for the system

#

still, you will need to add to the report

#

you will be questioned and give all details after beeing stabbed

#

here you just fill in the form and done

vocal shard
ruby needle
#

this is a stupid comparrisons

#

just report allready cirREE

vocal shard
shut scroll
#

you know how it is

#

document or dont

#

pester people here

vocal shard
#

or u know theres a 3rd alternative

#

accept that crashers & model thieves are probably always going to be an issue and move on with your day 🤔

raven silo
#

moderation have to go though process before banned someone because if banned wrong info be more of headache for them reason they tell them to email them to them

#

if more report that same person more like doing something

graceful gorge
#

@raven silo everyone

vocal shard
#

@graceful gorge

raven silo
#

@graceful gorge ?

vocal shard
graceful gorge
#

You mentioned me earlier instead of another Echo you were talking to. :3

#

This is the third time it's happened to me!

vocal shard
tacit plank
#

The proof is already there, was my point

vocal shard
#

so what

#

they still need to email support with their crash log

tacit plank
#

It's a useless log for the staff

dim aurora
#

not if some other player crashed them, they use it to get info on who to ban.

#

or something along those lines

tacit plank
#

We already know who

#

And logs can be faked, so they will likely also check on their end... So my point is that they might as well do that to begin with, as we know it's a troll already

vocal shard
#

logs can be faked

#

who would be assed

#

lol

#

and before you answer

ruby needle
#

they dont nessesreily ned the log to take aktions

vocal shard
#

the correct one is

tacit plank
#

ctrl+f "username1", replace it with "username2". It would take 10 seconds to frame someone

vocal shard
#

nobody

ruby needle
#

but they need an official report to track in the support system

tacit plank
#

That's not how it works

vocal shard
#

and it wouldn't be that easy to frame someone i'd imagine lol

tacit plank
#

They provide a ban reason, that is automatically stored.
If an admin himself comes across a troll, it's not like he'll use that report form. He will just ban the person

vocal shard
#

i'm sure mods are decent people who at least check content a user has before they ban them

#

so

tacit plank
#

It wouldn't be easy if the logs are validated by the staff, which means that they have something better to rely on anyways

ruby needle
#

it is a complete differente scenario if a team member does it tho

vocal shard
#

^

ruby needle
#

and they will definitely fill in infos after that too

#

you know you can always ask for ban reasons via mail

#

why do you think you can do that?

#

cus they logged it

#

cus there is a ticket for that case

tacit plank
#

Well, I provided the username, so any mod can join them and check out what they're doing. Log is useless still

#

It's logged when you ban someone, yes

vocal shard
#

they still want the log

#

not a name

tacit plank
#

They want the log when it's unclear what happened

ruby needle
#

they dont have the time to manually do that tho caffeine. thats what they do with in game reports but not with external ones

waxen rune
#

tfw someone looks and me and goes "hey he looks like he knows a thing or two, ima ask him for help!"

tacit plank
#

But there's nothing to be uncertain about

vocal shard
#

you said they crashed your friend though

#

so your friend needs to send his log

#

at

#

!outputlog

floral flaxBOT
#

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

waxen rune
#

oh

#

was bout to ask how for future reference

vocal shard
#

magic

tacit plank
#

I know where the log is

vocal shard
#

then tell ur friend

#

and tell them to file a proper report lol

ruby needle
#

the log is gone by now most likely

vocal shard
#

prob AdvertShrug

ruby needle
#

since it still gets overwritten

vocal shard
#

which means mods will prob not be bothered to look at it since no file

ruby needle
#

i think they should create timestamped logs and like keep the last 5 or so

tacit plank
#

My point is that the log is useless bureaucracy in this situation

vocal shard
#

how tho

tacit plank
#

I already told you

vocal shard
#

tell me again

#

but this time

#

with good reasons

tacit plank
#

One of the offenders is called "VRCHAT ADMIN", which is not allowed

vocal shard
#

still

#

doesn't matter, they'd prob just tell them to change their name

tacit plank
#

Any information provided would make VRChat staff look into the information server-sided to validate it. So the client-sided part (the output log) is near useless

vocal shard
#

do you even know how much information goes through vrchat

#

look at this

ruby needle
#

its not useless cus they can use it to find out where to look

vocal shard
#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 7253 users in VRChat currently

ruby needle
#

and when to look

#

timestamps

#

etc

vocal shard
#

it is the dead of night in one of their most popular regions

tacit plank
#

the guy is still online

vocal shard
#

the USA

#

then join him and get him to crash you

#

then send a crash log

tacit plank
vocal shard
#

its not that hard, really

tacit plank
#

You do it if you think it's important

waxen rune
#

Hm, prof icon wont lead for me either... Maybe I should log in.

tacit plank
#

I'm too lazy to put effort into the exams which decide my future, so uploading logs is out of the question

waxen rune
#

Smart!

vocal shard
#

i dont have a pc so i cant catshrug

waxen rune
#

.>

dim aurora
#

im not really sure that your whole 'his avatar icon wont load' cause if you actually click on the name it will load.

vocal shard
#

^

waxen rune
#

I<3BUGS

dim aurora
#

its a person named vrchat admin

vocal shard
#

lol yea

shell raft
#

Anyone else getting stuck in the galaxy opening scene with no login popup showing?

waxen rune
#

Your alone in deep space

vocal shard
#

RIP bella

waxen rune
#

And with this bug. JK idfk, but Im unfamiliar with this issue

dim aurora
#

rip leave an f in reaction to pay respects

waxen rune
#

F

#

H

#

(H for half life is dead, as a mesure of simpathy XD)

tacit plank
#

When searching, only that guy and his friend would show up as blank

#

But staff will know if it's a coincidence or not

shell raft
#

I deleted the cache folder, & reinstalled the game but still no login popup is showing 😦

#

desktop & VR both not working

waxen rune
#

OOF

vocal shard
#

"that guy and his friend" is awfully specific

#

🤔

waxen rune
#

Ever Uninstall and delete the "VRChat" folder as a whole then reinstall?

shell raft
#

yea

waxen rune
#

Well

#

Reinstall windows

shell raft
#

👀

vocal shard
#

delete system32

waxen rune
#

Thats just my be all, end all answer to an unfixable bug.

full tiger
#

I get stuck with just the vrchat loading box and then an empty room

waxen rune
#

hot

full tiger
#

It would take about 10 mins to get anything loaded but now it’s just done

waxen rune
#

Hawter

tacit plank
#

Fine, search "tenshi_" then, his avatar is blank too and he's also using some sort of hack

vocal shard
#

click on his avatar

#

lol

tacit plank
#

It will show the default vrchat robot

vocal shard
#

yes?

#

so what

tacit plank
#

But he's using a custom avatar (or at least he was at the time), and every other avatar loads just fine on the website

vocal shard
#

what if he just uses the default avatar? catshrug

waxen rune
#

Umm, ive had inaccurate prof pic avatars displayed before on my account. Almost as if it just takes a while to swap icons sometimes.

tacit plank
#

You can't crash people with the default one, neither have I seen him with the defualt one. Only those two's avatars fail to load. There's a hack which makes you appear invisible in game.
I doubt it's a coincidence

vocal shard
#

yes you can lol

#

all they would have to do is add subemitters to the default avatar

dim aurora
#

you can find the defalt models on mixamo cant you?

waxen rune
#

Transparent materials maybe?

tacit plank
#

If they're modified, they're not the default avatars

waxen rune
#

da

dim aurora
#

duh.

vocal shard
#

hurrdurr no dip

#

lol

#

"oh this modified avatar isnt default"

waxen rune
#

Uses default avatar model. By default the model is visable. Once model senses in-game use or user triggers an action the avatars materials swap to transparent ones, maybe?

tacit plank
#

If he had modified a default avatar it would look different

dim aurora
#

or

#

you know how people put pictures on their avatars infront of them?

#

what if they put the pic infront of it.

waxen rune
#

hmmmmmmmmmm

tacit plank
#

You guys aren't listening

vocal shard
waxen rune
#

no u

dim aurora
#

we are

tacit plank
#

That avatar is uploaded in 2016

dim aurora
#

yeah

tacit plank
#

By the VRChat team

vocal shard
#

yes we are, you just arent aware of how crafty people are

dim aurora
#

yes

waxen rune
#

Hi Im Bored: "you know how people put pictures on their avatars infront of them?"

#

I think maybe

tacit plank
#

Yes, that would make it a 2018 upload

waxen rune
#

maybe

tacit plank
#

that one is from 2016

vocal shard
#

and?

dim aurora
#

how do you know when they are uploaded?

waxen rune
#

waiiiit, are you saying that there is a recorded prof pic upload date attached to each prof pic?

tacit plank
#

It is with 100% certaincy the default robot avatar, uploaded by vrchat staff and not modified by anyone for 2 years

#

Yes

waxen rune
#

Where?

vocal shard
#

^

tacit plank
#

Your avatar is called "Jak(Jak2)"

#

It is uploaded this year

waxen rune
#

neato, but wheres that "date" located?

#

cuz idk

tacit plank
#

I send the link before, no? In there it was

waxen rune
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So its recorded in the image link

tacit plank
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For older avatars, yes

vocal shard
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where's it in the image link?

waxen rune
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(((())))

vocal shard
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amazonaws

tacit plank
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Yup, VRChat uses amazon

dim aurora
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🤔

vocal shard
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Thats not the URL I get when I check his image's link

tacit plank
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You're likely getting this then: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vrc-uploads/thumbnails/194889991.thumbnail-200.png

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Oh, we're talking about "vrchat admin", not Lethal's

vocal shard
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I checked VRChat admin's url as well

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And got the same thing

waxen rune
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I think acorn is comparing

vocal shard
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for all 3 in fact.

waxen rune
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as you said earlier "Your avatar is called "Jak(Jak2)"
It is uploaded this year" as if you identified it through the link as you did the other prof pic link that said 2016

tacit plank
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So you're saying that every avartar is Jak?

vocal shard
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No lol?

waxen rune
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wut

tacit plank
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That's the link you send

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Before saying that every avatar had that link

waxen rune
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You.. I... How did you...?

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AHH.

vocal shard
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Lolwut

tacit plank
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Also Lethal, I can link your avatar preview image, but it contains some ID that may be your avatar ID or something else of importance

waxen rune
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Im saying that ealrier you figured out my upload date. And you found out the other guys upload date. Im assumeing you found the dates in the same way as each other. Though mine doesnt have a date in the link, so how did you find it out?

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oh?

tacit plank
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There's two URLs, the thumbnail and the full version

vocal shard
tacit plank
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It no longer gives an exact date, but if the URL contains the avatar name, it was made this year

waxen rune
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I would like to compare. Can you link mine and other guys?

vocal shard
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Ok, then where do you get the full version's URL?

tacit plank
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https://files.vrchat.cloud/Avatar-Jak(JakII)-Image-5.6.3p1_.file_e2ff47c7-cb6d-4742-b1f4-10e0ae3cc552.1.png

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Other guys avatar is further up

waxen rune
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Mhm

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And is that full or preview?

vocal shard
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ok i misworded

tacit plank
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Full

vocal shard
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how*

tacit plank
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https://files.vrchat.cloud/thumbnails/4084570603.thumbnail-500.png this is thumb

waxen rune
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Full-sized images link, and you access full image by clicking on the avatar?

dim aurora
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prolly through inspect element maybe.

tacit plank
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Neither

waxen rune
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...

dim aurora
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then explain how to get to it already

tacit plank
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It's not important

waxen rune
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:<

dim aurora
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tihs is like ayoutube vid that ill take2 secs and its being dragged out for 10 mins

tacit plank
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It's even besides what we were discussing

waxen rune
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:{

vocal shard
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yea but how'dya get to it Think

dim aurora
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just report it.

tacit plank
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It takes 10 minutes because you want me to prove every line that I say lol

waxen rune
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Cause you fail to explain well in the first place

dim aurora
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yeah and every ten mins you waste talking wtih us you could have just reported it.

tacit plank
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I'm stating things, just take my word for it

waxen rune
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hard thing to do. I dont know you personally XD

dim aurora
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thats like telling someone 2+2=17 for a test answer and it actually being 2+2=4

waxen rune
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Hm, stretched comparison. But ok

vocal shard
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🤔

dim aurora
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you stating things could also be stating wrong things is what im trying to get at

waxen rune
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^

tacit plank
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I'm telling you that there's a troll, and you won't believe me. It's not even my problem to begin with that you doubt me

vocal shard
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we already know he's a troll lmao

waxen rune
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Well. I would love to believe you. Then again....

dim aurora
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if theres a troll block them and move on.

vocal shard
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i never said he wasnt

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OMG

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i just said you should send in a normal crash log

tacit plank
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Just thought I'd report their names so the staff had an easy target if they had time

vocal shard
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someone's using some shite that's displaying pornographic images on my screen

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lmao

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i can't even tell who it is

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dude nice

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so i can't report them for now

dim aurora
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just report it already my dude

tacit plank
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Safe mode

vocal shard
tacit plank
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I'd rather stab myself, bored

dim aurora
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yeah i say taht about alot of things but i still do them.

tacit plank
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Oh, I'm serious

dim aurora
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its called doing it and gettting over it.

vocal shard
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do it

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🤔

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i legitimately can't tell who's doing it

waxen rune
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u

dim aurora
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my dude Haganeth go into safe mode

vocal shard
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i don't really care for that

dim aurora
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well then do it by process of elimination.

vocal shard
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go into safemode

dim aurora
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'or switch worlds.

vocal shard
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and unblock people until you get it again

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ezpz

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they seem to have stopped

dim aurora
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lol

vocal shard
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they prob got bored

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lol

dim aurora
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not getting reactions out of anyone anymore

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so prolly setting offto a new world tbh

waxen rune
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What I do with bubblegum boobs

dim aurora
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okay now back to the whole "vrchat admin" username troll guy i guess?

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blow em?

vocal shard
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but yeah be warned there are now people with avatars that can fill your screen with porn

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if there weren't already

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im bored with that topic now

dim aurora
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thats been around for a while

vocal shard
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^

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i didn't know it was possible to fill the entire field of vision with an image

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LUL well.. now you know

waxen rune
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ive only seen large mostly clothed juggs and ahego so far

vocal shard
waxen rune
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hah, idk

vocal shard
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and what are "bubblegum boobs"?

dim aurora
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acorn do you have betterdiscord?

vocal shard
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no

waxen rune
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Princess bubblgum model heavily modified by me to be even more sexy

vocal shard
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isn't betterdiscord now against the ToS

waxen rune
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skin tight, and nips poke a little

dim aurora
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no

vocal shard
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no?

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weird

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its just not supported by discord.

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could've sworn i saw something along those lines a while ago

dim aurora
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it is just somthing that makes discord look less bland

vocal shard
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an addon for it might be against ToS but BD in itself isnt

waxen rune
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btw the glasses our outdated and are see through with live blinking animations

dim aurora
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im about to hop on vrchat rn actually bout to meme it up with my loli voice and then my normal one that kinda sounds like a boy to mess with people, long explanation imo but im tired and rambling

soft patio
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what's the Japanese character for "ch" ?

vocal shard
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i hate my voice so much

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people always mistake me for a boy

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having a tin can mic doesn't help

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hewwo

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non

vocal shard
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oui oui

soft patio
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baguette

tight egret
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does anyone know the game Chaos Legion?

stable aurora
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good morning GWnanamiRokaWave

vocal shard
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good morning

wide merlin
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Gewd moaning

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Wonder if any of you still remember 'Allo 'Allo

somber rapids
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Mornin' Chipp

vocal shard
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why r nearly all the friends i've made off vrchat so bad w responding to discord messages

wide merlin
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Because talking to yourself isn't healthy

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o3o

vocal shard
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that didn't even make ANY sense cuck boy

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Good afternoon!

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Heck

wide merlin
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@vocal shard I was jokingly implying that you don't have any friends other than yourself.

vocal shard
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@wide merlin you make me cry

wide merlin
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First the owo, then the world.

vocal shard
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what gaming videos should i make for my youtube channel?

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or should i start livestreaming instead

vocal shard
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Is it just me or uploading avatars doesnt work?

kindred glacier
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why do my friends appear as in a room

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even when they clearly arent their

vocal shard
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ikr

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same

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and also something else strange happens. whenever a friend leaves it still says they are still in the same world im in

wide merlin
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^ spent like an hour trying to find a guy, turned out he left the room before I even joined

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Granted I did get sidetracked by people with funny avatars.

vocal shard
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its illegal to lewd a loli BUT is it illegal if the loli lewds you? 🤔

inner cape
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Either way, in court she's gonna say that you lewded her.

vocal shard
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Yes

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Lolis are evil

somber rapids
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.>

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<.<

vocal shard
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hello, chris hansen here

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may i have a talk with you

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please, take a seat

toxic dagger
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I knows who you are, Chris Hansen, but you sees, I call yous Chris Handsome

vocal shard
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xD

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I approve

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i heard youve been lewding a loli is that correct?

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Who

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(its a chris hansen joke)

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You're a chris hansen joke

toxic dagger
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I came here looking for come Chris Handsome booty