Non-decimated that is
#vrchat-general-2
quiet prawn
300k also means a minimum of 6 meshes.
shy nest
well made mmd models are generally north 0f 100k while lower quality ones are mostly always under 100k
I will say though, that guy with "1 million polys" would be causing some lag
every 65k polys it splits the mesh which is another draw call, so 1 million will be quite a few of them
safe glen
It didn't lag me at all, but if it would've been multiple copies of him. I would surely lag without any doubt
If it would've been alot more people in that world at that time, I would've lagged
It was basically only me n him and another guy
sullen aspen
Yeah no our situation someone was legitimately crashing us on purpose. You would hear this thing saying “this is a witch hunt” and then the game crashes
shy nest
I wouldve just jumped off for the night/day they'd lose interest and id jump on the next day
safe glen
Same tbh
I've seen that guy Uzurimia
But when he was there I just got the hell outta there before he crashed me
Kinda feel like this is my fault now xD
Should've warned people on this discord about that guy
quiet prawn
That guy.
vocal shard
WHICH GUY
quiet prawn
Now lets be fair, I'm sure a 6.5mil poly 110 mesh avatar may make you crash
vocal shard
if you dont join meshed and shit then yea, maybe
polys dont mean lag
bad meshes do
^
atlasing to the rescue
polys just take longer to load.
the more that you have*
quiet prawn
I see acorn completely glossed over the joke.
vocal shard
no joke detected
mighty galleon
No penis detected
vocal shard
people in this server are so sperg that they'd use an arguement like that legitimately
no penis here? damn
im out
soz fam
mighty galleon
Run
lyric hawk
@modern sand Can you hit the DM's?
shy nest
oof pinging an admin
lyric hawk
I know what I'm doing
lyric hawk
I'm a trained professional
vocal shard
@lyric hawk
mighty galleon
@lyric hawk
lyric hawk
jokes on you, busy mode keeps me safe
lyric hawk
I don't
vocal shard
direct mentions always do
lyric hawk
I got this whole server muted
time to hide
lyric hawk
I am beyond human knowledge
lyric hawk
your attacks are weak
lyric hawk
I don't have toes
lyric hawk
I'm not gonna comply to your weird fetishes
lyric hawk
miss me with that
vocal shard
weak pinky toes
Lmao
Oh cmon
Don't blueball me on the stump
HEY EVERYONE THIS SUPREME GUY HAS WEAK PINKY TOES
@lyric hawk
GIBE US THE STUMPE
quiet prawn
fresh tiger
Where do screenies taken with the ingame camera go?
vocal shard
Wheeps
@fresh tiger idk have you watched the video that talks about it ;^)
you knpw
know
the one that the devs released
and tells you where its stored
orchid relic
eh its actually an alt account I dont feel like having any more ;)
not terribly important, but I do feel any site with accounts should also have a user-serviceable delete account button.
polar elm
@polar elm
vocal shard
@polar elm
someone dm me to help me with custom walking and running animations
i already asked there
and its dead
ruby needle
if no one there answered then no one here will 
vocal shard
you answered already
next birch
Hey if anyone likes werewolf and wants to play a hardmode version of werewolf that has over 33 unique, fun, engaging, and impactful roles I posted the rules in Vrchat pictures channel and add me Jammy ingame
vocal shard
Why do people keep advertising some shitty furry game in here
Go find a fucking community based around it
somber rapids
Werewolf is basically Town of Salem
indigo fern
Also please refrain from posting the same message in multiple channels
somber rapids
That too
vocal shard
Tf is town of salem
ruby needle
know mafia?
vocal shard
nope
vocal shard
ik what the mafia is
as in crime orginization
and until someone just tells me what werewolf is outright ill just keep assuming its a furfag card game or something
modern sand
@vocal shard moderation@vrchat.com please
vocal shard
@modern sand VERY URGENT
@modern sand VERY URGENT
Someone is in the gala night world, named "MAGIC OF THE", he has a model with a box above his head and he shoots particles at you and isnta crashes you. He is also fly hacking and everytime I get back on vrchat he tp's to my world and crashes me by shooting particles at me
covert chasm
Please do not ping all the admins/staff like that.
vocal shard
Sorry
Stop
Just trying to get attention while the guy is still on
Fucking record it
He is hacking and using animations that shoot at people
acorn
Instead of sperging out
i cant...
as soon as I join
he tps and crashes me
JUST PRESS WIN ALT R
before i even load into the world
Well then
I CANT
Just send crash log
Your not a staff
Lol
Go away
I am trying to tell the staff something urgent
Just send crash log to support@vrchat.com
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
covert chasm
Chill. Please post all the info you can get into the form available in #moderation-reports .
vocal shard
not the end of the damn world because someone closed your game 
no
they are doing it non stop
so what
so what?
I am trying to prevent the game from having toxic players that hack, and crash people?
Fuck off
if you want to prevent it then write your own anti's 
@covert chasm do i send the crash.dmp?
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
vocal shard
send that
fringe hull
hi hi 😄
vocal shard
welcome to the daily dose of retardation shizzuie
covert chasm
@vocal shard No, please send your output log. The crash.dmp and error.log are not helpful.
vocal shard
I mean you can physically see the guy doing it in gala night world right now as we speak :/
he has other things to do lol
he's one of lead staff, so you should prob just do what he says and send in a report normally
vocal shard
hec u im gonne crah ur dixcord wif my polyhonz! hehe xd
safe glen
Oh shizzles!
vocal shard
Jokes on you my uncle works for Roblox and he can hack your PC to give me your money.
im broke lol
pranked
somber rapids
Heya, Shizzu o/
vocal shard
I actually still have my Roblox account from 2008.
somber rapids
vocal shard
raven silo
@vocal shard turn on avatar default setting in system menu then get everyone vote kick him out
vocal shard
is it true that people with rideable avatars are getting banned?
raven silo
@vocal shard i dont think get banned next patch might block from useable again
there much worse then chair people lol
supple bison
@winged igloo @rough pulsar can you guys take care of doge in pictures chat
vocal shard
@vocal shard isn't being able to mess with other players not allowed?
raven silo
people abuse Particle is much worse then chair on avatar
vocal shard
dont see how its messing with people
@wide merlin one is for new users who dont have access to the rest of the server
raven silo
@vocal shard you can respawn out of the chair if you dont want to be on it anymore
plus need click on it
vocal shard
^
wide merlin
#vrchat-general-1 can't be written in when you're new, just seen
I was just wondering why make two general chats, one visible to guests, the other not.
velvet quarry
#vrchat-general-1 used to be available for "guest" users, but during a few population influxes it had to be locked, and just never got unlocked again.
At the moment they basically make it so there can be atleast two conversations going at once.
vocal shard
idk how many new people do we get a day now? could prob unlock it now
raven silo
might have other meme coming it way lol
vocal shard
i doubt it @raven silo
vocal shard
smh i was always a meme you dolt
hasty wedge
no u
vocal shard
brain.exe has stopped functioning
vocal shard
i do that alot
indigo fern
I'm more into ceiling staring
indigo fern
glossy turret
hasty wedge
it came already
no
wut
why the :/
O
for some reason my mind thought of particles
ehen u said poly*
wide merlin
Think only the latter part was the point.
wide merlin
If they raise that officially then it'd also mean higher system requirements for starters.
wide merlin
That's just ridiculous. The entire point of VRChat is 3D chat room with other people.
dawn plinth
How would you go on about reporting someone with no avatar picture or name who is stealing peoples avatars etc?
wide merlin
The community is pretty blooming right now, and the VR community as a whole is growing pretty fast. VRChat is already miles ahead of the competition.
vocal shard
Email moderation@vrchat.com your output log. @dawn plinth.
wide merlin
It's the creator's fault if they're incapable of making the model under 20k
dawn plinth
Ok
wide merlin
The entire mainstream VR scene is still only a few years old. It hasn't matured enough to allow limitless experiences, despite what it may already seem like.
I'm sure in the near future a lot will change in both VRChat and VR in general.
vocal shard
But VR itself has been around for decades, this is the what, third try to push it in mainstream? Now that we have the tech that doesn’t kill everyone’s eyes and instantly cause motion sickness for everyone... 🤔
hasty wedge
vr still suks until higher fov
dawn plinth
It's still really exciting being pioneers of the first "Good" VR right now though
vocal shard
It’s not perfect but it’s pretty good as is I’d say 😄
dawn plinth
Yeah
It's fun to imagine 10 years from now what VR will be like, or even just 5. It seems like it's growing really fast
I bet in the next 1-3 years even we will see some really good next gen headsets
hasty wedge
the new oculus tho
dawn plinth
I guess the question is if we will have computers to run it though.
hasty wedge
vocal shard
I just wish I were younger but meh, is not too bad especially since I have no family plans etc 🤔
sturdy zealot
god fucking damit i need to wait for the third piece of vive body tracker so i can use it for vrchat..
i have only 2 now
vocal shard
Plan is to never have kids which already helps 🤔
dawn plinth
You can still use the hip tracker while you wait though
vocal shard
I’m not interested in electrical engineering tho
dawn plinth
VR needs content as much as hardware too
So maybe that might be something to consider too.
I'm definitely interesting in learning and developing great experiences or games for VR in the future.
VRChat is a great learning experience for that
gaunt dagger
Sorry to bother but, anyone have a solution where uploaded worlds have everything duplicated in VR in the lens but in desktop mode, it appears normal? Tried checking in #world-optimization but it's pretty much dead.
dawn plinth
Hm yeah, it wouldn't be that bad if it was on newest version though
Never really tinkered that much in it, but UE seemed kinda generic/samey.
vocal shard
It's all in how you use it
dawn plinth
I guess that could be said for any tool really.
wide merlin
Unity is like Python - constantly criticized, but very convenient.
grand zealot
@wide merlin Did you actually just say that it's the creators fault for them not setting up the model below 20k? Okay, I'd like to see you try and make a model that looks actually somewhat decent that's below 20k lmaoo
The game as is has tons of limitations and actually can't handle shit, so that's why the limit exists
vocal shard
I think Unity has a poor reputation because of it's free status, meaning everyone and their mom can make a game
grand zealot
if they put their budget and time into developing their team and hardware, that limit wouldn't have to exist 🤷
vocal shard
It's the same reason people looked down on flash
grand zealot
also mind you, the SDK is on a lower version of Unity lol
dawn plinth
Yeah, I haven't used unity much myself but from the look of it, newest version of unity looks pretty decent.
vocal shard
@grand zealot I give you nearly every MMO in existence as proof of half decent below 20k models lmao
grand zealot
MMO's run on completely different engiines though, Pelinal
wide merlin
CS:GO models had 15k or something like that.
grand zealot
the difference between engine models and hand-made MMD models, is pretty different bro
wide merlin
They look pretty decent.
grand zealot
the game runs on unity's shit engine
So no, it's actually not the authors fault
it's the devs
wide merlin
Sounds like you could make a better one.
vocal shard
Yeah, there’s a huge difference between amateurs building MMD models and professionals making optimized models for games
grand zealot
Nah, I'm actually getting into IT and coding, but I've no interest in making a game on the unity engine which is extremely easy to get into
vocal shard
But how many people are actually making their own shit
grand zealot
I don't appreciate you putting down people who spend weeks worth of time making models for us foreigners
wide merlin
There's a thing called optimization.
grand zealot
Yes, optimization exists, and it's something that the devs of this game should really look into
vocal shard
point is
grand zealot
not MMD modelers
wide merlin
If your model is over 20k, it's something you should also look into.
vocal shard
There aren't a fuck ton of modelers
grand zealot
I laugh that you compare advanced engine models to basic miku miku dance models
vocal shard
The thing is, MMD models were never made for optimization since MMD doesn’t need it
and the more they work, the better they're getting at optimizing
like that one dude said
lilac swan
https://sketchfab.com/models/5615a4187bae4332a000c04f087981d2
~15k tri. Looks super nice.
vocal shard
CS:GO looks great with models under 20k
grand zealot
that's not MMD tho
lilac swan
MMD is literally a file format
grand zealot
I'm under the impression that Kezeal was
lilac swan
Not a specific type of model
vocal shard
Do you use MMD models in anything besides MikuMikuDance
well
ignoring converting them for VRChat or other programs
grand zealot
nonetheless, despite a model being above the poly limit, in no way does it affect performance, nor is it the authors fault for putting enough detail into these models to get them looking right for /THEIR/ program. They never created their models to be used in the unity engine, nor VRChat
vocal shard
I will give you one thing though
grand zealot
It's not the author's fault, so don't blame them specifically
vocal shard
this game is not an amazingly well built game
grand zealot
that's what I'm getting at here. Poly's don't even affect performance, materials do, aswell as particles
prove me wrong
vocal shard
even with models under 20k, shit lags
grand zealot
I agree that pretty much anything lags in this game
vocal shard
and some times I can barely play the game in VR because I feel sick
I don't get like that in any other VR game
Atlas and merge meshes and you’re fairly optimized alr 🤔
grand zealot
they really need to work on the game, and look into recruiting more people into their dev team
As of now, I only really play it and work on my models/animations to impress friends and give myself a little hobby to do, and to converse with others who stick to it ofc
vocal shard
how many people do they even have on the team
lilac swan
Not many other VR games allows you to upload user content as much as VRchat does, so performance is largely going to be at the mercy of others
grand zealot
don't even get me started on the whole hacker ordeal
believe everyone has something to say about that, tho
vocal shard
VRChat hasn’t made me feel sick at all 🤔 even at 10 fps
lilac swan
Unless stricter limits are put in place and enforced
grand zealot
if this game continues with its limits, it'll die
It already is dying, I remember when we used to get 12-14k players at peak time
grand zealot
The most we get is 4.5-5k now, and many people that I've known who play the game are leaving due to the stupid hacker shit
hasty wedge
tjhats cause of the normie knuckle invasion
vocal shard
Just because it’s slower than at peak doesn’t mean it’s dying
We also used to get 12-14k people because of children with their stupid meme avatars
Trust me
It had less than a thousand people playing for what, a year?
The next time there's a "hilarious" new VRChat meme, it'll peak again
grand zealot
tell that to the crowd who are rallying against the devs and the game for not discussing the hacker situation; and their potential plan to fuck 'em off?
It's a large crowd, maybe you don't see it.
grand zealot
... what
lilac swan
Quick glance at steam charts tells me a different story, just population is stabilizing
vocal shard
I don't see a huge group of people leaving
grand zealot
Dude, there's so many fucking people who are growing absolutely tired of the hackers. Because it's fun spending weeks on a model, only for some dude to glitch into your friends+ world, steal your model, and proceed to crash you. Or get this, overload and crash your PC?
shy nest
arent steam charts silly to look at now with the new privacy settings on by default?
hasty wedge
i wish all the ppl that use their voice quits the game already
ruining my experience
shy nest
like 75% of people wont have that shit disabled
grand zealot
oh
vocal shard
If you amend that statement to "people who always have their mic on with their speakers getting transmitted"
I'll agree
fuck those guys
shy nest
its 2018, how do people still use speakers
vocal shard
If I'm alone, I don't use headphones
shy nest
or rather disable them when playing games where you talk to people
wide merlin
If you're using voice, then yeah.
But playing action games is really nice with good speakers.
Explosions make your desk shake
shy nest
its always great to hear my shit voice from someone elses mic
vocal shard
If you don't live alone, why would you ever play VRChat with open speakers
wide merlin
"Fun for the whole family!"
vocal shard
Last night I had someone walk up to me and yell "DON'T MAKE ME EAT YOUR ASS"
wide merlin
Stream it on TV and speakers on, everyone gets a laugh
@vocal shard Those random weirdos are half the fun of VRChat :p
umbral reef
you know what i wonder
if all the peeps comaplaining here about hackers and stuff
actually know how to report them
gentle needle
Half the fun of VRChat is all the random shit that happens
vocal shard
@wide merlin aren't those random weirdos that spawned the Ugandan knuckles?
wide merlin
Ugandan knuckles comes from a Sonic game review
vocal shard
I know that
wide merlin
There's still bandwagon memes going on right now
Just yesterday me and another guy were almost recruited to the Mountain Dew cult
vocal shard
But someone took it and made it 3d
wide merlin
There was a whole army of those guys
gentle needle
The THIRST ORDER?
wide merlin
I don't know, they were obsessed with kermiting suicide.
And giving everyone Mountain Dews
gentle needle
Hmm, might've been a different group then.
waxen oar
Hello o/ started playing like last week
vocal shard
Kermitting suicide was funny until I heard it every 20 minutes
shy nest
welcome to hell, we have anime and weird shit by the truckload. come settle down and convert yourself
dawn plinth
🙏
vocal shard
that's kind of the issue with "meme culture"
Shit's funny until you repeat it ad nauseum
vocal shard
I mean like
consider this
Take any comedian you really like
listen to a bit you really like
and put it on repeat
it's gonna get
bad
like, I loved the D Club bit and jokes from game grumps
mighty galleon
meme's were never funny in the first place though
vocal shard
But when I started hearing it over and over from fans
It wasn't fun
I mean
Some stuff was great
vocal shard
if I heard the Harambe stuff from a comedian as a passing joke
I'd chuckle and move on
mighty galleon
harambe?
shy nest
a meme itself if generally meant to be shit lol
mighty galleon
idk why anyone uses them then
hell i found almost every single one annoying
and i still block almost anyone who uses just a meme avatar
vocal shard
They are only useful in their own year or month...
vocal shard
@mighty galleon welp, I'm lucky i didn't put my Plushie painting on my profile...
vocal shard
@mighty galleon oh...
mighty galleon
whats a plushie got to do with this
vocal shard
Go to pictures
mighty galleon
i dont understand what tha picture is suppost to be
vocal shard
@mighty galleon my plushie
vocal shard
@mighty galleon yes it is
mighty galleon
ok
vocal shard
I had it since i was 3, except it's colorless, and it contains a ringer in it
vocal shard
Is it just an ordinary big bee plushie that you modified?
vocal shard
@mighty galleon Aww xD
mighty galleon
if i could i would post pictures
vocal shard
Don't have to, it's cute just to think about xD
mighty galleon
lol ok
vocal shard
I don't want to die of cuteness
mighty galleon
lol ok, ill get you next time though
vocal shard
(O_0)...
mighty galleon
:3
flat veldt
velvet karma
anyone got a problem with oculus?
wide merlin
What problem?
I'm using Oculus, other than headaches and the sometimes-crappy-tracking I haven't had any problem.
velvet karma
okay I am having an error again it's like what happened world wide last time
it's also like how I think Vive crappy too
umbral reef
That last sentence? Wa
vocal shard
Ghost, are you a ghost?
wide merlin
@inner cape They still have a problem if you're facing directly away from them and look quickly up or down.
signal wren
What is a way you can prevent someone from stealing your avtar if they have all ready obtained it?
I can't count on the mods to do anything about this.
vocal shard
Theres one guy who crashed random people in friends+ lobby.
I got his nickname (Afterspice) but i wasnt able to block him even via social tab.
Any ideas what to do?
You can block him from the website I believe
umbral reef
And you know
vocal shard
You can search him up in socials and block him there.
umbral reef
Report them
vocal shard
And that too. ^
vocal shard
Innocent normal looking model, then he has few ear-raping animations and most prob crashing animation
signal wren
I hard if you removed the blueprint they can no longer use it.
vocal shard
If they're banned, they can't use it
Upload a cube or something on the blueprint, then upload your avatar under a new blueprint.
wide merlin
@vocal shard Care to elaborate?
signal wren
SO just detach the blueprint right?
signal wren
Okay, Thank god.
vocal shard
Remember to delete the model in your acount as well and upload it under a new blueprint.
signal wren
Spent way to Meany hours making my own crap to have someone just COPY it and troll with my model.
sturdy zealot
when is there going to be an new update so my game get's fixed 😭
bleak crag
My Creator status: Not yet allowed to publish. When i get ability to upload my avatar and can i somehow upload it? Maybe VRchat support can help me?
wide merlin
What's wrong with getting your model stolen btw?
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
vocal shard
Quite a lot of people dislike getting their personal uploaded content to be used by others.
signal wren
Because Its a work in progress and it's my work? I spend my time makeing my own stuff?
To have someone just take it and then troll with it is just disrespectful.
vocal shard
@bleak crag Just continue playing and you should receive a notification/email saying that you are able to upload user-created content after a while.
bleak crag
@vocal shard How long it tooks?
sturdy zealot
advert-chan, any idea on how to fix my game.. ever since the new update has released it broke my game somehow. i can no longer hear any user speak in game. No the safe mode is off, no the "mute users by default" isn't checked.
vocal shard
Can't say how long it will take.
You can ask around #user-support-old for that, Viper.
signal wren
If your ping gos higher then normel
it happens to my friend who lives in scotland
He can't hear anyone when his ping go's the slightest.
up*
vocal shard
Hmm...🤔
wide merlin
All videos need to be at least 2 minutes and show context for the situation am I the only one who finds this silly? The last part especially. Highlight videos are banned then?
inner cape
Wdym highlight videos?
wide merlin
Showing the funny parts of a 5 hour session for example.
Like chasing someone with a burger.
Just a crude example.
vocal shard
Hmm... So If something random out of contest happens in the video and you can't explain it, it's not allowed here?
https://media.giphy.com/media/HjheuybfwDGnu/source.gif
wide merlin
It's a really vague and bad rule imo.
Who decides what counts as context? A single moderator who may dislike you?
Is there a way to quick-activate an emote? Or do you always have to clunkily stumble into the menu for those?
chrome flume
I'm afraid that logic could apply to any hierarchy of checks and balances. The issue would be with corrupt enforcement. Not so much the method. Even with a clearly outlined set of definitions and rules, it still needs to be reviewed and judged by a human being.
And yes, you can animation override your hand gestures for easy emotes and more
wide merlin
Do the buttons A and X do anything in-game on Oculus touch controllers?
Could technically put some hotkeys or something on those
vocal shard
Huh, there is a "Green Shy Gal" in the dancing gifs, i think my life is complete (O_0)...
wide merlin
who dat
vocal shard
A character, mostly treated as lewd...
vocal shard
Most of it is nsfw, i just like the little non sexual dances
vocal shard
Umm... Its genderbent shy guy...
wide merlin
Woops, I meant shy guy, not shy ghost
vocal shard
Delete this
wide merlin
no
vocal shard
You’re going to have a nice day and you’re going to like it otherwise I am going to hide leeches in your showerhead
dawn plinth
But that's the only way I have a nice day
Is starting my mornings with a leech shower
wide merlin
Leeches were used medically in the past.
vocal shard
Yes, they were used with the idea that they could help cure disease by draining blood
Which was completely false
@wide merlin to suck out poison and infected parts i think
wide merlin
Leeches are effective at increasing blood circulation and breaking up blood clots.
They release the proteins and peptides that thin blood and prevent clotting.
Plague doctor my ass
:P
vocal shard
But they didn’t know that back then, they used them a lot more for disease than anything, which made it
@wide merlin but they can also cause their own infections
Worse, rather than better usually
wide merlin
If it's dead then it's not sick.
vocal shard
Astute observation
You’re hired
xD
That's exactly what caused the bubonic plauge to go unchecked xD
Here is your bird mask, herbs, and person poking cane.
Go wild
wide merlin
I already have a plague doctor avatar :p
It needs some work though
Pretty sure it doesn't even have a skeleton.
vocal shard
Not that 049 weakness
wide merlin
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892123955 so you have this
vocal shard
@wide merlin ah, you are a man of culture as well?
Definitely Kezeal, gotta make sure I’m lookin thicc
wide merlin
Indeed.
vocal shard
blazing wave
Anyone ever had a point where you're brain was so loud with chatter that you couldn't focus on what someone was saying?
vocal shard
nope
wide merlin
That's a medical condition. Seeks professional counseling.
vocal shard
@blazing wave isn't that ADHD?
blazing wave
I dunno? Just having one of those days
vocal shard
Brain
Loud
Pick one
Anyone know what I should get for my PC or VR? I can't afford an i7 right now and everything else is good.
dont need an i7
gentle needle
What are your current specs?
vocal shard
@vocal shard you could probably get away with a very late gen i3 or an i5 core
@vocal shard I stream and I have an i5-7500
if u can just use your current on your new pc
@gentle needle GTX 1060 6gb, i5-7500, 16gb ram, 500 watt psu
it should be fine
I'm not getting a new pc, just looking for an upgrade
oh
lol
what you have is fine for vr 
gentle needle
I'm running a GTX 970 and i5-6500 with 16 gigs
vocal shard
I mean streaming and vr simultaneously
should be fine
and would the i5 bottleneck my gpu?
try it and find out
I have it in my pc already.
not worth upgrading your pc if it already does what you need it to
I'm wondering if the i7 would make it all much faster or really no difference
so check if it can stream vr
It can
i7 would just do what you normally do
but doesnt matter much
Ok.
bc VR is more gpu intensive than CPU
so
Yeah
Alright thanks
yep np
You prolly wsnt an i7 if youre gonna stream too
vocal shard
Vrchat is more cpu intensive
Because they wont make the game multicore
Probably would be better optimized if they made the game utilize more than 1 core
Its not even that hard
It could be done within a day
umbral reef
Beside that its not a good unity version to have more then one core on
floral aspen
its not that they won't, its that they can't. Unity 5.6.3p1 doesn't support multi-threading
and no, optimization isn't so simple that it could be done in a day, thats absurd
vocal shard
Unity 5 does support it
safe prism
it's not that unity 5 doesn't support it or not, it's if everything they use also supports it
floral aspen
^ thats what I meant. right now I think things like ik can only be calculated using one thread
theres canny.io
wide merlin
@plucky karma #feature-requests
floral aspen
use that to post feature requests and suggestions
velvet quarry
https://vrchat.canny.io/ allows you to post feature requests and bug reports, be sure to check for similar requests and vote on ones you want to see.
hybrid cloak
question. I may be mistaken but I think i recall a time where playmaker is in closed beta testing how do you join that closed beta testing
floral aspen
I don't think they are accepting any new testers at the moment
floral aspen
No, there isn't a website
Back when they were doing sign ups I think it was either you dm'ed a dev or filled out a Google form. But that was months ago
hybrid cloak
0_o
raven silo
you can fill this out https://goo.gl/forms/3kMRJ2d8HUvbzg3f2
but might need good background in programming even get in that close beta
@hybrid cloak
floral aspen
just post your specs here?
vocal shard
oki
inner cape
Send nudes specs.
floral aspen
you might have a hard time running VRChat on a Pentium cpu
inner cape
Might want to upgrade both, cpu and gpu...
vocal shard
just for a short time
vocal shard
made steam vr test shit
floral aspen
steam vr? You're not trying to play in VR with those specs are you? You might could squeak by on desktop mode but I definitely would not recommend trying VR
vocal shard
could i play some old vr games
rough pulsar
Unlikely. You need to be able to hit 90fps for VR. 45 if you're willing to live in reprojection hell.
ruby needle
that pentium might eben be ok
1050 or 1050ti? (4gb vram?)
a core vor VRC a core for windows, steamvr and oculus home (if oculus)
obviously you wont multitask with anything
no browser in bg no nothing
fervent crypt
Custom Chris avatar is bannable? 🤔
inner hazel
Anyone know if VRC will support haptic gloves with full finger tracking in the future?
floral aspen
idk
vocal shard
@fervent crypt who?
floral aspen
I'd imagine they'd like to though
I know oculus is working on full finger tracking without gloves using only a camera
inner hazel
i'd rather have the haptic gloves because of actual force feedback though
imagine being able to feel all the anime boobies.
I mean
I'd be cool to throw stuff around, right?
vocal shard
meh
uncut trail
Gloves would be bad due to sweat
floral aspen
depends on the material they're made out of
vocal shard
hey so with this new safety content thing
as long as I have friends I hang out with every day I should be ok right
and should we stop votekicking each other as a joke
inner cape
No. And yes.
If you have played more than 24h before, and you don't behave inappropriately, you should be fine.
But don't kick without a reason too often.
floral aspen
yeah, like getting kicked once isn't gonna make you lose uploading privileges. More likely if its on a regular basis though
vocal shard
State ur evidence
inner cape
You have a trap on your profile picture, which is a common and unoriginal theme amongst the VRC players! Being unoriginal is not cool!
vocal shard
oh
inner cape
I'm kidding. Traps are cool.
vocal shard
no i am cool now
inner cape
Hm. I agree now. Well done.
vocal shard
yes
cerulean relic
what does a sudden dissappearing of everyone and locking onto Y axis mean?
inner cape
It should be fine. One of the 2 that I said at the start.
Probably.
But if it occurs again too often, come back here. Try to do some research yourself, look for patterns.
vocal shard
I wish people could go to other maps outside of the common ones like the Pug or Presentation room. I would go those other maps but there is no one there and none of my friends are online most of the time.
vague slate
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
vocal shard
I need to learn how to do multiple facial expressions for vrchat at some point
I have so many Pokémon models with different expressions yet never used em
wide merlin
Can I somehow delete models from my collection?
wide merlin
Thank you!~
brave folio
I haven't play vrchat for while because irl stuff
when I tried to open the game.. it appeared
I've tried to reinstall the game but it didn't worked
vocal shard
same, my game wont launch and reinstall didnt work
i still would love the framerate drops to stop though
raven silo
only way to stop that go system setting click avatar default
signal field
hey does anyone know how long you need to wait till you can publish avatars with a new account? i joined vr chat about a week ago and still cant and i emailed them and they just told me to wait haha
vocal shard
how many hours you got logged mate @signal field
signal field
17 hours @vocal shard
signal field
oh ok thanks 😃
vocal shard
Just leave it open on desktop mode lol
signal field
haha i can handle 7 more hours in vr 😃
vocal shard
Yeah, same. On my first day a few months ago I spent more than 7 hours in VR 🤔
vocal shard
All of it in VRchat for me 🤔
There’s a reason why I have over a thousand hours in this thing 🤔
wide merlin
I've just been staring at my new robot model for an hour now, trying to figure out how to make it look better.
What to add, what to remove, what to change...
It's nice and sleek, but at the same time it's pretty bland.
south oyster
😦
iron heart
Spill oil all over it.
south oyster
🤔
wide merlin
It will already be black with dark red jointy-areas and brigh red eyes.
Kind of like a grown-up version of my previous sexy robot
The previous sexy robot
wide merlin
90s were over 18 years ago
iron heart
Ew you made me realize kids born in 2000 are in the dating scene for realios now
Fuck i gotta block more of these fools out my inbox then
wide merlin
2000s kids are now in porn 😏
wide merlin
https://i.gyazo.com/2491823550e8b4cc8c936d3f2e641dcb.png Current version of the "grown-up" version
vocal shard
Wretched mortals, worms.
wide merlin
That fell doesn't even have 3k polys
waxen oar
I need some friends on vrchat :/
austere raptor
so i dont know why but ive been trying to upload an updated avatar and it no longer shows on my avatar list
so i checked sdk for updates and now i can't even update the sdk
proper prism
Hi
mighty galleon
hi star
vocal shard
Hiya star!
vocal shard
What did you try to draw 🤔?
sage pewter
Not a lot of people in avatar testing lately
mighty galleon
i blame people
vocal shard
And Japan shrine has more players than the pug
It used to have like 20 people on average then one day it had 600. Still don't know how that happened
mighty galleon
people getting religious
vocal shard
Well there's a lot japense talking people there 
mighty galleon
maybe they like big hard things?
scenic rapids
How long o you have to play, before getting upload privs?
indigo fern
Word on the street says it's 24 hours, but we aren't too sure
vocal shard
Ingame 24 hours...
scenic rapids
ugh
vocal shard
That's like 2 holiday sessions
vocal shard
Are there any good tutorials how to properly weight paint models?
I didnt look for them yet tho lol... id just rather ask for that here, maybe one of you know some good videos
shut scroll
useful for starters
pinned in #avatar-rigging
youll want to go there for help
auto normalise and x mirror while weighting is very useful too
if its someones stole your avatar i doubt it
raiding or the like
those just get reported
if you got hacked its your fault
vocal shard
Oh alright i see. Ill have a look at it when ill be home. Didnt check #avatar-rigging cuz well its rigging not weight painting but looking at that rigging also needs weight painting...
lilac swan
Send an email to "hello@vrchat.net" if you need to talk with them
vocal shard
ffs
vocal shard
You could also tell us what problem u have instead of telling us "i need admin"
morons asking me if i installed the sdk properly = get block idiot trolls
lilac swan
Then all you can do is wait
vocal shard
Dude they are trying to help you wut. What happend tho @vocal shard
no they arent
they are trolls
dim aurora
no they arent?
shut scroll
yeah there are a lot of times where people have a version that is too old
vocal shard
Alright they are very bad trolls. But what happend to you?
" HAVE YOU INSTALLED THE CORRECT SDK?"
seriously
dim aurora
they are going down the list of normal issues
shut scroll
its pretty important
vocal shard
i was trying to get the video player to work and they make up bullshit solutions that dontwork
shut scroll
i agree with hamster face
shut scroll
pretty sure video player is only for worlds
vocal shard
yes i know
i was doing my world
Could u send me screenshot of audio source, vrc audioplayer etc? On pms
but these idiots seem to think they know stuff which theyd ont
andthey just ask troll questions
dim aurora
relax, your way to angry about it, they are just trying to help you they best they can.
shut scroll
there are people who are new here so they know little
vocal shard
those idiots that i blocked have no idea what they are tlaking about
dim aurora
you should be understanding to people, just say "thanks but i'm sure that my sdk is the newest version"
vocal shard
i dont have patience for trolls
shut scroll
its hard to when youve heard a million times
vocal shard
Well i mean they kinda know what are they talking about. Sdk might be the problem (seems like its fine for you tho).
my SDK is functioning 100% fine
So again if u can, send screenshots
Of prefab in hierarchy etc
shut scroll
^^
dim aurora
Oh, i forgot to change my nickname on here to my vrchat name rip
mighty galleon
ha
vocal shard
pat
Ur current nickname is cute tho ^o^
mighty galleon
-pats the non vrchat name person-
vocal shard
Whitmire! Hayo!
vocal shard
someone in a deathgun avatar shot my avatar and crashed my game (deathgun from ggo disconnects people)
shut scroll
ahaha
dim aurora
uh, well then
vocal shard
U can try to send output log to support about that and if u know the person name, block him
shut scroll
thats so stupid i love it
vocal shard
I mean even if they will ban his account he still csn reupload the model to other account
dim aurora
what is?
vocal shard
i thought it was just a normal custom deathgun avatar
but it was actually a deathgun avatar that crashes your game
i dont remember his name
dim aurora
what?
vocal shard
Gettin more depressed in school.
Feel free to join me if u want to
mighty galleon
im customizing my HUD in ff xiv and changing colors to the chat
trying to get everything the same as i have it on my ps4
vocal shard
Noice.
How is it going so far?
mighty galleon
i think i got it right so far
had to take pictures of my moves though b/c thats hard to remember
dim aurora
unless you use the same moveset for every game
dim aurora
lol
mighty galleon
fight me bored!
dim aurora
where, when, and how
mighty galleon
here, now, "sword fight"
dim aurora
oh hell
vocal shard
Which sword type?
dim aurora
im too tired to sword fight
mighty galleon
ill leave that to your imagination ;3
vocal shard
I'll choose... Hmm... An African Armorslayer!
mighty galleon
kk
also damn its been so long since ive played ff xiv i forgot how to get some moves to work
vocal shard
Hmm... I've only played final fantasy 1 through 6...
aaaand my game crashed again by a kanna
mighty galleon
ff xiv is a pay to play online game
vocal shard
@vocal shard the plauge doctor Kanna?
no
Now there's another one?!
a normal kanna with little rabbits around
used a long beeping sound to crash people's game when they look at the kanna
Huh, a literal time bomb
I love the crash particle meme
I know I'm late on replying to the above message, but that GGO reference is genius
I wouldn't even be mad if I got crashed by him
I rather dip someone framerate that crashing tbh
umbral reef
Thing is the line between making someone lagg and crash is more then just blurry
vocal shard
wow the great pug is like almost empty now, i think it crashed everyone
umbral reef
Shit for Pc players means Vr players cant handle
and even then machine differences
vocal shard
Why do you think its dying
Cuz anyone with a crashes can just hit the wall and kill everyone
oh hell naw! i aint going near those rabbits
umbral reef
And people dont take the time to report those users but have time to complain for it 👀
vocal shard
Just get the outlog lmao
It's possible to crash everybody undetected
Yep
I just block avatars by default
umbral reef
Not without the loggs going crazy 
vocal shard
Doesnt matter really
You could probably crash a good chunk of VRChat players in half an hour
Yep
umbral reef
If just two peeps report that guy then
the odds of him being banned properly is insanely high
vocal shard
I don't think logs display who has used particle effects or the properties of the particles.. But it should be relatively easy to add in the future
Nono
The outlog can actually read avatars
And the mods can see people avatars and gestures
Even tho its deleted it can still be read
The log is useless if you don't see somebody walk up to you with a gun
crashed once again by same person. i was even gonna report to a moderator....
Bruh
umbral reef
And to be fair
its not hard to check what time pepes crached
Looked who joined / is active at the time and then compare
Then check avatars and gestures and tada
Reporting ingame does not work btw
vocal shard
Should tbh
Report option should be better
You will just know that you've crashed, not by what or who. The output log is just 1000s of lines of "X joined the room, Y left the room, avatar Z has a script error, you got a notification", etc
umbral reef
Better to report via email -> moderation@vrchat.com and submit your output log, with detail (like time it happened, it happened when he joined or later, name/close to his name and ect)
vocal shard
Doesnt matter who or what did it
umbral reef
And imsupposed
Logs are highly underated
vocal shard
They can just find the avatar
I'm saying that the output log doesn't provide any information on who crashed you
I know
umbral reef
You really think a website like facebook would not take any datapoint they could from you if it did not meant they can advertise you anything?
It still does report the current active users and timestamps
vocal shard
Server side logs are probably better, but our logs are useless against crashers
rocky mantle
@vocal shard SDK documentation says to use Unity 5.6.3p1, pretty sure you said you were on latest before? Might be the cause of your issue
vocal shard
Thats why i dont go to public lobbies at all lol.
If u have few friends try to join them in non public lobbies instead. @vocal shard
umbral reef
They are not...
Else they would not ask for them to be included for fucking everything
vocal shard
They really arent
umbral reef
From a crash report from hackers to bad rendering within the game...
vocal shard
......
They are really useful
i swear to god
They can find out who crashed, by downloading every single avatar that every person in the room has uploaded, and then going through every single emote on them... That would take days
😡
Like my avatar has -500 mil polys
umbral reef
That would how it would go without those loggs...
vocal shard
Yeah same
If somebody enters the room and you crash afterwards, that can be an identification, but if that guy has been in teh world for 10 minutes before crashing everybody, you don't have a chance of knowing that he did it
But
umbral reef
You can
umbral reef
Or well, maybe not pinpoint it instantly but going from 40 people to having 2a3 be the focus
vocal shard
And hidden poly count
umbral reef
What means you just track those id's or even check them
And thats just clientside loggs then
vocal shard
Logs say "Person X loaded a new avatar". You don't even see the avatar ID anymore