vrchat-general-2

[vocal shard]

I think that's what most people do... It has the same location as the nazi one..

[crimson robin]

The only useful thing they ever did was helping us brand avatars in a video game almost a century later

thanks bois

The eye thing sounds interesting but I'm not sure what you mean

[hasty wedge]

uh idk how to explain

[potent beacon]

they invented fanta too

[hasty wedge]

but certain TDA edits have a mark in their eye with numbers

[crimson robin]

True

[hasty wedge]

u cant see it unless u try tho

[vocal shard]

In a lot of ways, the Nazis were doing well

[crimson robin]

ALRIGHT BOYS LET'S CHANGE THE TOPIC

[vocal shard]

Then they messed everything up

[crimson robin]

There are plenty of things the Nazi Party did that could be considered beneficial but you're forgetting one key point

I was jOkIng son

I think I'd prefer the arm tag thing though, anyone got a model link?

[vocal shard]

Oh, I know, I was just pointing it out

[crimson robin]

inb4 banned

[inner cape]

Search for it, google.

[crimson robin]

Yeah but I reaaaaally don't want to have to use a Nazi armband

[shut scroll]

uh just change the texture

[hasty wedge]

its not a nazi armband if change the texture

[rough pulsar]

Open blender, make cylinder, delete ends, weight to arm, unwrap UVs, texture in MSPaint

[crimson robin]

I KNOW

[hasty wedge]

[crimson robin]

BUT IT FEELS DIRTY

[vocal shard]

@crimson robin not the Nazi party you muppet, the German scientists were effective and good to the world

[shut scroll]

and maybe uv

[crimson robin]

I was 100% referring to the Nazi Party, regardless of what the scientists in relation did to further advance science

but again

[shut scroll]

german science is the best in the world?

[crimson robin]

this is fucking VRChat

I'm not getting political

I DON'T WANT TO GET BANNED EITHER LUL

[inner cape]

Do what Gallium said.

[vocal shard]

"Texture in MSPaint" Lmao

@shut scroll idk

[hasty wedge]

u cant deny MSpaint is the best

[rough pulsar]

Do what I said

Also do what I say and get hot dogs this friday.

[shut scroll]

rip joke

[hasty wedge]

its efficient! with only 1 downside

no transparency

[vocal shard]

I want hot dogs

[crimson robin]

I must be the only person in the world who prefers Paint.NET over GIMP

[shut scroll]

eat food

🤔

[inner cape]

Photoshop here.

[vocal shard]

How is .net different from MSPaint?

[shut scroll]

i dont like gimp

[hasty wedge]

it can use transparency

[vocal shard]

Photoshop is like 10k $ though

[inner cape]

Miss me with that hobo shit.

[crimson robin]

Oh my goodness you poor child @vocal shard

[rough pulsar]

I mean, if you really want you could texture it in a nice hex editor after learning the entire PNG format.

[crimson robin]

lole

[inner cape]

[vocal shard]

Just choose a lossless format

[hasty wedge]

have a 8k texture

[inner cape]

16k

[vocal shard]

Then you don't have to figure out how the algorith scrambed the data

[hasty wedge]

[vocal shard]

8k textures on a model

Hell nah

Maximum texture size in most programs is 30k x 30k, but if you manage to make a 1 by 50000 pixel image, most people will bluescreen when they try to open it. It's pretty funny

Dont give people ideas

[hasty wedge]

my experience

when i first went wut if i make the size 3837828319 x 123781093712

[inner cape]

Why even?

[vocal shard]

Speaking about Windows, I have no idea what it would do i nVRChat. Probably fail already in Unity

[hasty wedge]

curious

[shut scroll]

socialise

™

[inner cape]

I doubt it will get past unity.

[rough pulsar]

At some point unity does clamp texture sizes, so might do nothing of significance.

[vocal shard]

About 100 megapixel is the maximum in Chrome, then it crashes

So some of my hentai has to be opened in Firefox

[rough pulsar]

I'm amazed chrome runs on my system and I have more ram than sense

And I have a lot of sense :|

[shut scroll]

wat

[vocal shard]

How many gigs? I have 32 myself. Don't really like Chrome though

[inner cape]

That's a very complicated sarcastic sentence.

[shut scroll]

completely over my head

[rough pulsar]

128

[inner cape]

Woooooot.

Pc masterrace.

[vocal shard]

Shitty browser. Google assumes the user is retarded, so it will only do what you tell it to if it agrees that it's a good idea. For example, sometimes ctrl+clicking doesn't open the window in a new tab, it just changes the current one

It also gives websites permission to intercept ctrl+c and ctrl+v. Horrible idea

[rough pulsar]

Chrome has become such a disappointment.
It used to be this nice fast slimmed down browser with the nice feature of each tab as a process.

Now it's so bloated it makes Jabba the Hutt look anorexic.

[vocal shard]

Wait, 128GB? Do you run on server hardware?

Yeah, it's bloatware and spyware

[inner cape]

16gb here. Don't mind me.

[vocal shard]

I can't really find motherboards which go past 64GB, and just those are super expensive anyways

[rough pulsar]

Almost. I've ended up doing a lot with VMs, 3D mesh processing/photogrammetry and animation rendering.
Being able to do them all at once is great.

[inner cape]

Reeee.

[vocal shard]

Sounds it

[rough pulsar]

Also ryzen threadripper 1950x

Anything beyon that and I would be going onto server hardware for their epyc line of processors, but the more cores you get the slower they go.

[vocal shard]

Just Googled that, it looks sexy

What did the ram cost? 32GB regular DDR4 ram is about 700$ here

[rough pulsar]

a lot 😏

[vocal shard]

You should ramdisk VRChat, would probably load fast

[rough pulsar]

I haven't setup an automatic ramdisk system yet (because I'm lazy) but running stuff from it is super fast

Although not vrchat, since this isn't my VR system.

[vocal shard]

128 ram

wot

You can just download ome random ramdisk software I guess

You have multiple computers at that level? I'm jelly. Guess I should get a job

[rough pulsar]

I run linux on this thing so the whole ramdisk thing is easy & built in to the kernel

[vocal shard]

Linux is way better than Windows, I wish all my games could run on it

[rough pulsar]

my VR system is a laptop because I wanted portability. Which worked out great when I got given a free Acer WMR headset.

I take the Vive with me when I know where I'm going (need a bunch of power outlets) and the WMR when I don't.

It's pretty much the one redeeming feature of WMR headsets, if you have a portable system it'll work great with it.

[vocal shard]

Ah nice. A laptop which can run VChat is a bit pricey, but if you can affort it, great idea

[rough pulsar]

When I feel like really fucking around with this thing, I'm gonna see if I can get VR working in a VM with GPU passthrough.

[vocal shard]

Has that gotten easier recently? high-end graphics on linux used to be a huge pain

Good luck though

[rough pulsar]

NVidia's stuff generally works just fine on linux. Used to be a bit of a pain but not so much now. Only really need to faff around on a driver level when I update the kernel.

[vocal shard]

I see, cool! My knowledge on these things is getting very outdated

[rough pulsar]

It's only VR (and vrchat) that's pulled me back into even dealing with windows in any way lately.

Since 2005 or something I've pretty much been pure linux/mac os, with the occasional windows VM for when WINE wasn't good enough.

[vocal shard]

I gave up on my computer. It won't boot from USBs and has various other issues, but I'm afraid to touch too many things. It will likely brick soon anyways

And Windows sucks, VRChat is worth it though

[shut scroll]

:(

rip comp

[rough pulsar]

Worth noting, is there's a (slightly experimental) build of unity 5.6.3xf1 that works 99% of the time with the vrcsdk.

[shut scroll]

what breaks

[vocal shard]

Installed a 512GB M2 SSD. Not detected, even with a PCIE adapter thingy.
If I c hange motherboard I will need new ram and CPU, and have to spend at least 1500$ if I want decent hardware again

[rough pulsar]

@shut scroll I had some weird issues with triggers just not working but restarting unity and rebuilding/uploading fixes it, it seems.

On the avatar side of things I haven't encountered any issues yet.

[shut scroll]

is there any good things about using a diff version though 🤔

[inner cape]

What are the advantages of using that version?

[vocal shard]

It's software, it only makes sense in theory

[rough pulsar]

Of the linux builds 5.6.3xf1 is the closest that the sdk registers as compatible and things work.
Considering the exact one to use is 5.6.3p1

[shut scroll]

ah i see

gotcha

[rough pulsar]

Again, this is purely for running the unity editor on linux if that's your main system like mine is.

Plus it's probably rather unsupported by the vrchat team so if you get any weird errors you're probably on your own.

[vocal shard]

@rough pulsar can the unity editor run on a Windows 8.1?

[rough pulsar]

Should be able to, I know someone who's on windows 7 and it runs fine for them.

[vocal shard]

Ah, thank you!

[turbid agate]

8gb ram here dont mind me

[vocal shard]

I'm on a basic Win 7 N with only half the windows updates. No issues

[rough pulsar]

https://unity3d.com/unity/system-requirements

Check the left side "For Development"

[turbid agate]

the new unity looks soo good

The features oh my godness

[rough pulsar]

tl;dr
64bit windows 7 or above, CPU needs SSE2 and a >= SM 4.0 graphics card

[turbid agate]

the performance improvements for games in Unity 2018 is looking sweet.

[vocal shard]

I still hate Unity

[kindred glacier]

gets kicked from room because i didnt answered them where i am from

lol

[turbid agate]

Now thats a rude way of being kicked 😓

[vocal shard]

this happens quite a lot to you

Salty because Unity decided to brick my VS2012 install, all my programs are gone now

[rough pulsar]

finally getting that sweet vulkan support?

[kindred glacier]

i want multicore support for my ryzen 7

[turbid agate]

"The HD RP is a modern renderer that will support a limited set of platforms (PC DX11+, PS4, Xbox One, Metal, Vulkan — no XR support yet)."

[kindred glacier]

my poor fps ._.

[vocal shard]

I have yet to be kicked for some reason 😄

@rough pulsar I'm going to need to remove my graphics card from an old pc that i used and put it into my brother's windows 8.1 be able to be able to use it properly

[turbid agate]

I think Vulkan is implemented in the HD render pipeline 🤔

[rough pulsar]

I've heard that if vrchat were to update to a unity version with vulkan/dx12 support we'd get a massive perf boost.

[vocal shard]

That would be awesome

[rough pulsar]

We already got a decent one with the unity 5.3->5.6 update with single-pass stereo and some other bits and pieces.

[vocal shard]

I could pet twice the lolis ..

Well, IDK how different VR things work. Performance might scale exponentially

[turbid agate]

The new version is supposedly a huge performance boost, for one they are allowing you easy access to gpu and such i think. "Available in Preview with Unity 2018.1, the new Scriptable Render Pipeline (SRP) places the power of modern hardware and GPUs directly into the hands of developers and technical artists, without having to digest millions of lines of C++ engine code."

Performance is alot of cpu processing power atm, if you are in a big room, all the location of people, position of limbs, dynamic scripts, particles, draw calls.

[rough pulsar]

I have heard it's possible to do IK calculations on the GPU which would take a lot of load off the CPU and that may be possible with newer versions of unity.

[turbid agate]

Atleast i think

ooh

Shaders can be created using a node/graph network instead of code 😮

[vocal shard]

For example, if you have twice the people in the room, it might have to check the location of twice the body parts, but also relatively to twice the avatars, so 4 times the CPU used

[turbid agate]

Like Unreals or playmakers visual scripting 😩

[rough pulsar]

Or addons like Shader forge or Amplify Shader Editor.

[turbid agate]

Can i link unity dev update here?

[vocal shard]

Shader forge is free now I believe

[kindred glacier]

i can be in a room with like 20 people and only get like 20 fps with my ryzen 7 at best

[turbid agate]

This new unity stuff is going to be so goddamn helpful for me and my friends personal project.

[vocal shard]

I get more on my 970. Well, it depends on their shaders

[turbid agate]

very much so for me as a lazy artist

[vocal shard]

Can you make things in Unity 2018 and export them to 5.6.3?

[turbid agate]

nope

unless its compatible

afaik, backwards compatability does not work like that

[vocal shard]

For new features, it won't work, but if the new one can automate some things, it might.

Well, I guess it's unlikely to work, just wishful thinking

[turbid agate]

ye

Dunno if the VRChat devs are working on anything upgrade related or how feasible it is with their manpower but would be nice.

[vocal shard]

They already have a lot of work to do, so unless it's easy I think it will be a while

[uncut trail]

Um is it me or server having problem ?

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 4906 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

5k ppl appear to be on?

[rough pulsar]

5k is about normal for this time. Usually if there's server issues it drops a fair bit.

[vital badger]

seems legit

none of my friends are on 😦

[stiff vapor]

How do I get past the trust thing? I recently made my account but I can’t upload avatars to it because of the trust thing

https://medium.com/@vrchat/trust-systems-content-gating-9e501de487fa

[topaz notch]

Be good boy, wait a while, and make some friends. :D

[somber rapids]

Oh, so THAT'S why my avatar didn't go up

[jaunty apex]

just keep vrchat open while u sleep

[stark swallow]

i think you need more hours in game

[somber rapids]

Any idea on how many?

[stark swallow]

more than 50 i think don't quote me on that

i have more than 300 so idk

[somber rapids]

Ah, well, I'm close if that's the case

[stark swallow]

ask a mod they probably know

[idle beacon]

I'm having issues getting in.

[somber rapids]

Issues?

[stark swallow]

what do you see?

[idle beacon]

Yes, first, I could not switch worlds. Now I can not even log back in.

I log in, no loading screen.

Just space.

[stark swallow]

have you reset your computer?

[idle beacon]

What would that fix?

[stark swallow]

probably on your end

maybe your internet is bugging out

[fleet lantern]

yo boys whats the wait time before i can change my avatar?

keeps telling me i cant change my avatar yet

[somber rapids]

Uhhh...

Yes

I never had that

[jaunty apex]

just have over 400 of playtime 4Head

[indigo fern]

Yikes, I only have 200, I need to step my game up

[jaunty apex]

i said over 400

but i have around 800

[fleet lantern]

https://imgur.com/a/oKqmub8

[indigo fern]

Either way, I still need to step my game up

I feel like if I had 4x the hours I do now, I'd know too many people

[somber rapids]

I think maybe just play the game and shtuff and wait till you get the email.

[tacit plank]

I have 629 hours, but they're all active. I basically never AFK

[somber rapids]

I only have 37 hours

But those are all over the past few days

[tacit plank]

First week I played I reached about 100 hours

[somber rapids]

Ooft

[lilac swan]

1483 hours, 95% of those in VR 😩

[somber rapids]

I think I'd be spending more time in it if I had VR

[tacit plank]

Must have Oculus

Or two sets of Vives to charge

[indigo fern]

I played 50 hours my first week, bought VR the very next week. No regerts

[lilac swan]

And that's not counting the hours before I played before it came out on steam

[somber rapids]

I can get a cheap Oculus off of Amazon but the shipping is insane due to being an Aussie

To buy one would use up all my pay

Actually, with the sensors it'll cost more

[indigo fern]

Ouch, I'm sorry to hear that

[somber rapids]

[turbid agate]

i only got 300h in VR 😮

700h played

[silent wolf]

oof

[turbid agate]

But i quit as soon as i get bored which might be why my playtime is not as high as it can be

[silent wolf]

i got to 300 and started making models

now im at like 320h and only get on to look at stuff or hang for a bit

😭

[vocal shard]

Lmao

[umbral reef]

Not even 100 hours :lul:

[indigo fern]

what a normie

[inner cape]

How do I even check how much hours I got in unity. 🤔

[indigo fern]

You don't

[inner cape]

Too late adding it to steam, I've spent like 5 months in it.

[indigo fern]

If only discord tracked time like that shrug
But that's asking too much

[umbral reef]

I can track the last time i restarted my laptop

I got it to 1 month once

Then i felt bad for the poor thing and restarted it

[somber rapids]

Oof

I think I managed 1 and a half before auto updates got me

[vocal shard]

Hating your Laptop :(

[indigo fern]

I love my laptop, I give it a bubble bath once a week

[silent wolf]

What kind of bubbles

[vocal shard]

Did you bathe together?

[indigo fern]

Yes, I strip it's components down and we get in the tub butt nekkid

[silent wolf]

😃

[vocal shard]

Kinky

I think Cyhann’s components need some cleaning

[indigo fern]

Negative Ghost Rider

[vocal shard]

...Mine?

[indigo fern]

Well, they do need cleaning, but I ain't the one to do that

[vocal shard]

I got you some leeches

Why won’t you love me

[indigo fern]

Ehhh, I'm fine, thank you for the offer

[vocal shard]

Tfw no one wants your leeches

[indigo fern]

[vocal shard]

[somber rapids]

[indigo fern]

Wew, everyone flexing their nitro muscles and I'm here like

[vocal shard]

[somber rapids]

[vocal shard]

[somber rapids]

We're all pay2win here

[vocal shard]

Flex on him, flex on him until he dies

[inner cape]

N8, I got you fam.

[indigo fern]

Thanks bud

[somber rapids]

We still love you N8

[indigo fern]

Miss me with that gay shit

[somber rapids]

D:

[inner cape]

oh, btw, N8.

[somber rapids]

Is just loves

[indigo fern]

Give loves to someone else, there are plenty of people here

[inner cape]

I was in a room with a cute bear guy, who was shipping everyone. He shipped me like 3 times with 3 different people, lul.

[somber rapids]

Pffft as you do

[indigo fern]

Ohh, noice

[inner cape]

And I got rejected all 3 times.

🤔

[indigo fern]

Oh

[vocal shard]

@somber rapids delete

[somber rapids]

Delete...?

[inner cape]

Delete before mods ask you to.

[indigo fern]

That emote is uhhh, against the rules

[inner cape]

pepe.

[somber rapids]

.>

[indigo fern]

Offer some love to Ghost now

[vocal shard]

REEEE

sucks but what can you do

[somber rapids]

So no monkaS'ing either?

[vocal shard]

WHOMST BEING ALIVE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION

ni

no

no pepped

peppes*

[inner cape]

Gib love. T.т

[somber rapids]

[vocal shard]

or

got your back

[somber rapids]

I'll stick to TheSaddest'ing then

[inner cape]

cyhann, u got hyperbruh?

[vocal shard]

only bruh I have

[inner cape]

Oke

Good enough.

[vocal shard]

Send me pic and I upload it tho

[inner cape]

Doogle it, reeee.

[vocal shard]

Am lazy bruh

I literally postponed working on my new model cuz I gotta do mouth stuff for two months now

[inner cape]

[somber rapids]

Mouth stuff?

[vocal shard]

Mouths are wierd man

[somber rapids]

Yis

[vocal shard]

Slightly different angle and it goes from happy to goofy to angry

[indigo fern]

I'm guessing you have a model with a facial rig instead of shapekeys?

[vocal shard]

Yep

[indigo fern]

I love those, so many possibilities

[vocal shard]

30 or so bones on the mouth

[indigo fern]

Yeeep

[vocal shard]

The constant missclicking tho

[indigo fern]

just don't misclick then

[somber rapids]

Ctrl + Z

[vocal shard]

I wish I could

Selecting the wrong bone

Reverting won't help me much with that ^^

[somber rapids]

Ooooh

Gotcha

[inner cape]

🤔

[sturdy zealot]

still waiting for an quickupdate so my problem goes away

O U F F

mine is worse

i can't hear anyone or anyone can't hear me

before you say anything

yes i uninstalled and reinstalled the game 10 times

yes i verify integrity cache

yes i am in online mode

triggered

PTSD

only vrchat

ever since the update released

yea 4 people are facing this problem currently. i am one of them

same exact problem that i just told you

alright let me give you my full spec pc

Graphic card: GTX 1080ti aorus Xtream edition CPU: intel i7-7700K ram: g.skill tridentZ 32GB internet: Ethernet powersupply: Evga 650W

i forgot the rest

[vocal shard]

Did you turn off block avatars by default and mute users by default

[sturdy zealot]

its already off

still nothing

[vocal shard]

That's all I know :/

That's rough

Ik just making sure lol

[sturdy zealot]

also i didn't do safe mode on nor i didnt mute user by default

nibba

nein

D 0 C H

this is sad

aReYoUaMaCuSeR?!??

linux

?

lol

mine is windows 10.... (ofc)

what happens ... if i switch back to windows 7...

ouff

i dunno..

i mean i am a 1 monitor boi

ouff

T R U S T SYSTEM

maybe he isn't worthy enough.. jk, this game is going to eventually die sooner or later

every f2p get's corrupted slowly when they get "famous"

but ill shut up for now and watch

yea

it sucks that not just one person get's punished cuz of what that other person did. no, an entire people get's punished with him

indeed

that's what i said

oUfF

yea avoid public lobby's for now

if you have alot of friend's try to play with them when they are in friend+ or invite only.

and no discord wasn't a mistake

lol

[hasty wedge]

5 months since the script kiddies came and still waiting for someone to steal my model so i can kiss myself

still waiting

[sturdy zealot]

dew it

[hasty wedge]

no

its not the same

they can rip the unitypackage

but cant take shapekeys unless they figured it out already

cats has a auto system that does it for u

just need tochavw the shapekey on 100 in unity

that sounds like useless effort

[vocal shard]

@hasty wedge just send me the model and I help your dream come true

drean

[hasty wedge]

it's not the same

[inner cape]

You can't even do yours, what are you gonna do for others.

[vocal shard]

[hasty wedge]

it has to be random

[vocal shard]

lul

[inner cape]

Emote broke.

[vocal shard]

I can upload stuff just right

No

[inner cape]

ACCOUNT SHARING! YOU'RE GETTING BEANED.

[hasty wedge]

🍆

[vocal shard]

not the beans

[merry gale]

Are there any good websites besides sketchfab and model resources to get free star wars skins? Im looking for a rigged ewok skin, but I cant find it. I met someone yesterday and they knew about a website with free rigged models, even from star wars, but I cant remember the name! Anyone know about a website that I could use ?

[delicate perch]

anyone know a good way to make a picture/render more like a painting?

[vocal shard]

Oh snap, what happend and why is this shrine map so popular

we got eggplants up in here?

@vocal shard DOONT

what

Nuthing

[supple bison]

[vocal shard]

do et

mfw somebody sells porn mags in a holy shrine

Holy prons.

🙏

!cache

hmmm

Go to the vrbot chat/bottalk

🌮 🍆

@vocal shard

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[vocal shard]

ah, thx

Does anyone know of any good playmaker tutorial's. I recently impulse bought it during the sale and i have no idea what i'm doing. :p

[sweet stream]

Why do people like showing off their shitty avatars with earrape and overused particles

And YouTube is a good place to start

Also I heard that playmaker comes with a manual file

So read that

Probably has a FAQ too

[haughty gazelle]

I read that and thought it was integrated in VRCHAT now

My hopes and dreams qq

[hasty stag]

Hey

[dark cape]

what the faq

[vocal shard]

[stark swallow]

VrChat should only be allowed for streamers haha

[vocal shard]

if you dont want cancer play altspacevr

simple as that lmao

[vocal shard]

Anyone know why youtube changes my main channel icon but not my brand account?

[ruby needle]

brand accounts have their own

they are technically own accounts that are managed by someone (or multiple persons)

[spice patrol]

If I bought a computer that meet the requirements of vrchat would a laptop or desktop be better?

[vocal shard]

desktop will always be better

no matter what you do

[umbral reef]

Fully depends...
Laptops can be moved around and if you dont plan to use Vr with it why not have that thing already for your future school and ect
But laptops do get hotter faster when running the same games as a desktop

Also twofist that is kinda bullshit..
Aslong as the components are the same the only big difference is heat
That the parts at times cost more

That should be a given really

[spice patrol]

I'm definitely getting very lol

Vr *

[umbral reef]

Then go for a desktop and having minium specs while using Vr is not recommended btw

[vocal shard]

thing is theyre not the same

they are specifically designed for laptops, making them worse

plus desktop is cheaper

[umbral reef]

Stats wise they can underperform a tiny bit when running high end crap
But again its a laptop, they have more problems with heat then anything else and cost more as well special parts

But the stats under normal times are perfectly the same

Jim you wont be banned for reporting someone you think was really hacking

[spice patrol]

Any particular desktop set up I should go for?

[umbral reef]

And indeed desktop is cheaper so its the big go to with VR
You wont be moving that shit often anyway and best to go for better cooling at a cheaper price

Well depends on the budget

And stay away form anyone that suggest water cooling to you

[vocal shard]

network cards are worse in laptops usually, the drives are usually pr crap, then the heat issue, plus everything running worse than the actual thing, and you can want to upgrade / replace something that broke

[umbral reef]

Drives are often worse but that fully depends on the product within the laptop

Upgrading with a laptop is logical you cant do that properly

Same for repairs

[spice patrol]

Budgets like 700 to 1000 possible

[vocal shard]

desktop

[umbral reef]

And network cards shit? Lmao the cheap ass work laptop i got has a hella rocking one

[vocal shard]

where you from?`

[spice patrol]

In us money btw xD

[umbral reef]

He is in the ron room

[spice patrol]

Someone said a I 7 8700 was something I probably wanted to get

[vocal shard]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tQQ3ZR

there you gop

[spice patrol]

Okay thx

[vocal shard]

forgot wifi card but w/e

[umbral reef]

You got any current stuff you can use in your pc midnight?

Or you starting fresh

[spice patrol]

Starting fresh if I don't think I could use the desktop I have in storage xS there from like 2000 I think lol

[willow sorrel]

I'm sorry if this is rather bold but I'm just curious if anyone has been having an issue where they load in on VR chat (Steam) and they get loaded in an apartment like room but the model doesn't load and seconds the game crashes.

[umbral reef]

Tried doing the stuff in #vrchat-support yet?

[modern sand]

Less spam please

[umbral reef]

Gl wiht trying to do that within europa lul

[vocal shard]

sorry
keeps going anyway

lmao

[umbral reef]

Europe..

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard can you fucking shut up about it yet

please

thanks

[vale palm]

is blocking ever gonna work again? D:

[vocal shard]

yes

probably

Hello

[candid kiln]

where do i report crashers

i have screenshots for proof

[umbral reef]

!outputlogs

Or fuck whats the command again

But you email them to [e-mail]

[candid kiln]

cba

[umbral reef]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[candid kiln]

there should be a channel where we can just post

[umbral reef]

And the time it happened

Like thats a valid way to get peeps banned for crashing... a word to word system..

[candid kiln]

thats so silly

[umbral reef]

Its not 😂

[candid kiln]

they really need to fix the crash files thing because going through all that effort just to report someone whos gonna make another account

[umbral reef]

Its legit one email with the name and the date

and a file

[candid kiln]

at least make bans ip based

[umbral reef]

You read the latest announcement?

[ruby needle]

now they gotta play for 24h to upload tho

[candid kiln]

bots?

[umbral reef]

Also other stuff we dont know yet fpaul

[candid kiln]

avatar stealers

so many ways of getting around it

[ruby needle]

yes also other stuff

but at least 24h is what is known isn't it

[umbral reef]

Jup

[vocal shard]

Hey

[umbral reef]

[vocal shard]

Are cameras resource intensive

[ruby needle]

yes

[vocal shard]

i wouldnt think do

[umbral reef]

You are rendering a small space extra

[vocal shard]

so*

[umbral reef]

So you render more what means you take more from ya pc

[vocal shard]

If i block out my vision and use cameras to view

Would it be less intensive

[ruby needle]

[umbral reef]

No?

Also that would not work nice

[vocal shard]

Has anyone made a functional gundam using cameras

[umbral reef]

Isnt a gundam a big mecha?

[vocal shard]

Yes

[umbral reef]

How can a camera help with that...

[vocal shard]

Iuno

But

Having 360 vision on cold front is op

XD

Just add a camera to a normal avatar

Hue

[umbral reef]

I call it taking the fun out of games

I do that also with mmo's

[vocal shard]

Lol

[worthy swan]

https://twitter.com/MysticalCyan/status/993587862301020160

[vocal shard]

I dig your name m8, reminds me of something

[worthy swan]

All I want, are the friends Ive made, the events Ive been a part of, to not be hampered. To see people that were playing before to come by and actually have fun again, and to finally have communication.

[vocal shard]

k

k

very petition-esque when you read iy id say :^)

it*

[worthy swan]

Its the proper channels :p

They made that for feedback, I made my feedback, and told people who ran into the same issues who are adding onto that

[vocal shard]

would you classify it as a petition tho

and yes they already know about those issues

they should adress it then

[worthy swan]

I didnt know they knew about the issues, they never addressed it lol

[vocal shard]

they will

[worthy swan]

Then do it, its been two weeks.

Typing a paragraph takes less than a minute

[vocal shard]

a rollback would have been so easy

if you wanna bitch about it then do it and fix it yourself

Only two weeks

[tribal island]

wow

[vocal shard]

In software development that's literally nothing

[umbral reef]

You do realize your talking to a company?
and if they claim or say anything its set in stone for ever?

[vocal shard]

plus a rollback isnt as easy as you think

lmao

[tribal island]

enlightening advice here

[vocal shard]

like maybe a server rollback sure

[worthy swan]

My dude, it aint my game. Im just here to play it, and give the feedback when necessary. If your game is broken, its not my job to fix your game.

[umbral reef]

If they claim X or Y thing in text they need to do that else well..
Peeps here are cunts and the community as a whole is worse lol

[vocal shard]

but a fucking application rollback isnt very easy

and they dont turn a blind eye to feedback they get

[worthy swan]

Idfk what they do, all I want to hear is "Listen, we know several players are unable to play, the recent update caused a performance problem and more bugs to fix that have resulted in some players the inability to play. We are currently working on it. We dont know when it'll be fixed, but it'll be fixed when we can fix it"

Thats it, Ive heard nothing.

Ive heard rumors

[vocal shard]

they are like always working on the game though

even if they dont say

[worthy swan]

But never anything ever official, no response on the FEEDBACK PAGE THEY MADE FOR THIS STUFF

[vocal shard]

can staff even reply on canny.io?

lol

[umbral reef]

Your not entitled to an reaction though really 👀

Like its nice when they do

[vocal shard]

yea

[umbral reef]

but they dont have to explain how or what they are doing to us really

[vocal shard]

^

they need transparency

[umbral reef]

Like who knows
Maybe the lagg is something else totally unrelated to what you guys think

[vocal shard]

wich they dont

[umbral reef]

No you dont

Its a fucking alpha game

[vocal shard]

yes they do lol

its not alpha

they are transparent

[umbral reef]

Bruh

[vocal shard]

you could call battlefield a alpha

any thing they do show us is usually explained

at this point

[umbral reef]

It says big ass EARLY ACESS in the menu

and the devs have said they are FAR from done with the game

[vocal shard]

and the gui really feels like early access too

battlefield is like completely reworked from when it originally came out so idk what you mean segway

which is fine since that's what it is

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worthy swan]

They are transparent? They never responded at all about the audio bug before which forced people to restart their games and cause actual audio issues. Only thing they ever talk about are the hackers, which yes thats good talk about htat. We like to know what you are doing regarding the hackers issues, THAT is good. We dont hear anything about bugs, we dont hear anything about performance problems they caused. The few things I hear is "Oh its not our fault, its the avatars and maps" which is a fair response, if the avatars and worlds that were used before the update were perfectly fine for hundreds of people then suddenly when an update is released, we cant even DO the same things before. Idk what is going on, idk what they released. I mean hell I tested the cameras in the beta with a few people before it was officially released. Whatever happened is causing people to not play, preventing people from doing the things they could have done before. If you release something that prevents things from happening, address it.

[vocal shard]

bruh they dont have time to go over everyone's bugs

yes they do

and some people never even experience the audio bug

fixing a game is priority

and no, they dont have time for that

they have time for major shit & implementing new things

[umbral reef]

They adressed that in the support channels...
They almost never talk about hackers... Just that they are fixing up security what always happens
Bugs get splashed often with work arounds or fixes before a patch, Read #vrchat-support or #user-support-old

Also
They are not a one man team, they can work more then one thing

[ruby needle]

@vocal shard this is early access alpha... bugs are to be expected and fixing things is not always main priority especially since new stuff propably gonna break some things again anyway. keeping it working is important but optimizing and perfecting is thigns for release and late beta

[vocal shard]

We like to know what you are doing regarding the hackers issue

dud

plz

its not working well at all tho

true but they're probably more focused on other shit than tons of little bugs rather than the game breaking ones

[ruby needle]

and after all this game is FREE TO PLAY

[vocal shard]

they dont lack cash

saying its free to play is dumb

[ruby needle]

no

it is free to play

[worthy swan]

So what you mean the update the a few hundred people to stop playing cause they couldnt anymore? That sounds game breaking

[ruby needle]

what they get is not your problem

not your deal

[vocal shard]

but it is? you dont have to pay a fuckin dime to play the game

lol

Ok cyan

[worthy swan]

It is free to play, but they were paid 6 million roughly by HTC and FB to work on the game and keep it in top condition. As well as their kickstarter

[umbral reef]

They dont lack cash?

[ruby needle]

that is right and who know what they report them?

[bright widget]

Still free to play lol.

[umbral reef]

Ever ran a company man?

[ruby needle]

but you are the player not HTC or anything

[vocal shard]

I havent heard of anyone crashing really outside of what you said

And the canny.io

[umbral reef]

Also most problems are user made

[ruby needle]

^

[vocal shard]

Only crashing is from people who do it on purpose

If you want your friends to be able to play tell them to get off their 2010 laptops and get a better fucking pc lol

[umbral reef]

Crashing is user created
they made a shoddy fix that got validly shot down hard and i expect them to set a proper more polished version up soon

[worthy swan]

Then you are an idiot, and live in your own world if you dont know that performance is so low after the update that several people cant even play. The community is a lot larger than your little group of 15 people you hang around in presentation room.

[vocal shard]

fun fact, in coding just throwing more money at something doesn't fix bugs

[umbral reef]

The crash avatars took a hit a few days ago with the trust system

[vocal shard]

I do know what the performance is because I have played the fucking game

I have like 160 hours ingame or something

160 hours with how many people in worlds

[umbral reef]

I love how you make this personal 👌

[vocal shard]

Usually like

20

lol

i usually play with 50 people in a world at a time

or more

[worthy swan]

used to lol

[umbral reef]

Totally makes us respect how you think about this and take your arguments into an account isntead of throwing feelings at this

[vocal shard]

with no issue until the new update

[umbral reef]

Valid way to go

[vocal shard]

why lie

[worthy swan]

Why lie?

[vocal shard]

great pug with 50 ppl

[ruby needle]

the update broke stuff.
one of the next updates will fix stuff.
this is what an alpha and early access is all about

[vocal shard]

[worthy swan]

EUgh no, pug with 50 people? thats absurd

[bright widget]

Great pug limit is 28 or 32 I guess?

[vocal shard]

yea its like 24

[safe prism]

28

[vocal shard]

idk how they bypassed it

lol

[worthy swan]

Yeah roughly, and even then before the update it was like

[umbral reef]

Is that the join cap or user cap

[worthy swan]

you couldnt even be more than what like

[safe prism]

join cap

[worthy swan]

20? before fps on high end machines just died

[ruby needle]

also you can not reliably test stuff on test builds and servers cus often shit only starts breaking once its out in the wild with tons of people

[vocal shard]

full world suddenly 20 or more extra ppl joined

[umbral reef]

That is because the game runs on unity

[vocal shard]

Lol what

[umbral reef]

That is a unity problem

And a shitty avatar problem

[vocal shard]

I have a shitty pc with an i3 core and 4gb of ram, it can handle 20 people fine

so

[bright widget]

Nice.

[vocal shard]

[ruby needle]

desktop and vr is different tho

[umbral reef]

I been in 40 user rooms and im running low end Vr in Vr machines talk...
Like just a tiny bit above minimum stuff

But ey

[worthy swan]

I guess I roughly underestimate what 20 people is, tbh Idk when it lags only when I see a sea of people. Dont bother counting

[umbral reef]

That room forced everyone to use a one draw call avatar

So dope

[vocal shard]

true, but most vr setups can go just fine

[worthy swan]

Highest room ive ever been in with decent fps was nighttime park with 80 people and had decent FPS

[vocal shard]

[worthy swan]

But now cant even be in it with more than 30-40 and then it starts lagging

AFTEr the update

[umbral reef]

Again
Its clear that peeps optimize there shit not at all anymore compared to like 5 months ago lmao

that is a big problem also

[ruby needle]

yes, and it will be fixed at a future update again. just gotta wait

[bright widget]

+1

[umbral reef]

But no way to yell at users instead of the game so who cares

Not like those unity packet websites have sheit avatars

[vocal shard]

harassing devs with petition will make them work faster tho 😠

[umbral reef]

and promote bad avatars

[vocal shard]

Petitions arent even allowed in here

Unless if you have staff permission to post it in the first place

[worthy swan]

Their canny.io is meant for feedback :p
Not even a petition, its a feedback and a request by people to address the issue.

[umbral reef]

Lets start a VR union :kappa:

[vocal shard]

But you already posted the link to it in here lol

how's that different

[worthy swan]

Because its the proper channels.

[umbral reef]

^6

Big difference kinda

[worthy swan]

They made it for this reason

[vocal shard]

[umbral reef]

They should not care about Type petitions on random odd websites

[worthy swan]

It would be different I made like, a google doc petition with phrases

and shoved it all around and said "add your own thing"

Since that ISNT the proper channels

That would be against the rules

[vocal shard]

lol what

[worthy swan]

Yeah, you can make a google doc page that you can vote on

Google docs is pretty fancy, I like a lot of the things you cna make on it

[vocal shard]

yes i fucking know that but you brought it up out of nowhere p much

[umbral reef]

lmao VRChat fanclub group fucked up one of those docs today

Cant even do permisions in 2k18

That is why i like Typeform more

[vocal shard]

Ohh, my bad I missunderstood the whole website

[worthy swan]

... No? Im comparing it saying if I would've made a google doc page requesting the Devs to do stuff, THAT would be ban worthy and result in action taken against me because that isnt feedback and an actual petition. Since I went through the proper feedback page which is Canny.io that is the actual proper channels to do feedback.

Which, I kind of like canny.io its a pretty nice website tbh

[umbral reef]

Sadly you gotta pay for the insane cool question logic stuff and can only have 1K results be shown a month

And its a pain if you get close to that cap and dont want to pay

[vocal shard]

[worthy swan]

Guys ever visited Shroom Island?

On VRC?

[vocal shard]

nop

[worthy swan]

Legit one of the prettiest maps Ive ever seen, large as hell, and Im actually surprised how optimized it is

[vocal shard]

never even heard of it lul

[worthy swan]

Usually when I join Void club my fps takes a pretty decent chunk out with around 20-30 people, but in shroom island it stays pretty decent

Im not surprised, it doesnt even have any public worlds lol

My friend showed me the other day, its legit as fuck

Just look it u p next time.

Shroom Island

Very pretty

[safe prism]

whats it called again

[vocal shard]

eh

Void is badly optimized

Same as the pug

Because they are old worlds they dont have to fix them and vrc admins dont care

bored as shiet

They are exempt from optimization due to being the original worlds

[vocal shard]

anyone know how to make emotes last longer

or like last forever until you move

whomst'd've tagged me

for like say. a pose. i want to make that last until i move my character

i need help please

[modern sand]

@vocal shard #animation

[vocal shard]

reee cube got to it first

[grand verge]

[vocal shard]

[floral aspen]

emotes only last as long as you make the animation

[vocal shard]

when im in game and i look at certain avatars why do they look like this ;w;

https://imgur.com/a/IZpPsFK

cuz they were made that way?

when i wear it it doesnt look like that

might just be a triffer

trigger*

also some mirrors don't show effects n stuff

happens to other people avatars too

when i see them

[inner cape]

Maybe they fucked up their animation that does stuff with texturs/shaders.

nvm then.

[vocal shard]

Hey guys my avatar sucks and im stuck in the ground and cant change my avatars cause im too low to access my menu

is there a way to switch to a default avatar using a shortcut?

go into unity and delete the avatar

im retarded and dont have it anymore

get it

unity?

[floral aspen]

what do you mean you don't have it? go into unity, go to the VRChat tab, go to manage uploaded content, and delete the avatar from the list

[vocal shard]

prob means he uninstalled unity

I can't even follow that process tho

upload avatar

delete unity

i go to manage uploaded content

log in for the first time

and its not there

oh lol

are you properly logged in?

You can change to the default avatar by pressing Ctrl+\

advert with the hacks

[floral aspen]

didn't know that . Advert-chan appears to save the day

[vocal shard]

thank you so much @vocal shard

i was stuck for like 30 minutes lmao

im retarded

mom has all the answers

42

[vocal shard]

i get a error when i try import new sdk ;w;

[inner cape]

Did you delete the old one?

[vocal shard]

yee

[inner cape]

Did you do it the right way?

[vocal shard]

mhm

[inner cape]

That's rather weird.

What kind of error is it?

[vocal shard]

awooooooooooo >.<

[mighty galleon]

AWOO?

[vocal shard]

a little wolf girl howl

[mighty galleon]

I know I was just doing a manly howl

[vocal shard]

oh

[mighty galleon]

Talking back in awoos

[vocal shard]

oh

[mighty galleon]

Yeah

[vocal shard]

[mighty galleon]

Acorn good

[vocal shard]

uwot

[mighty galleon]

Iwot

[vocal shard]

what the hell is the victory animation within the custom override

[mighty galleon]

?

[vocal shard]

we dont have a victory animation within the animations

[hasty wedge]

peace sign

[mighty galleon]

So?

[vocal shard]

oh. so shift f whatever

or the shift f1-f8 keys

[mighty galleon]

?

[median basalt]

Victory is peace sign

Shift+F5 or whatever

On desktop that is

[vocal shard]

ok

nani

whats strafert45

and strafert135

so like, how long exactly do we have to wait to upload avatars? I have had this new account for several days, played for hours and hours, and still nothing....

contacted support and they said: play the game...litterally had the game up while reading it lol

[ruby needle]

you'll get a notification/mail once you are trusted enoght.
there might be more then just time to it tho (aka dont stand afk around)

but the factors, weight's of them and algorithms are not known

onyl that time is a factor for the first verification (24h ???)

[thorn ermine]

Er I'm not 100% sure if this is where I should post this and if not please let me know the appropriate category.
I'm trying to trouble shoot the VRChat Camera, I've tried taking photos and they are not saving. The camera worked on launch day in which photos saved to Pictures > VRChat
However since then the pictures have not been saving, and yes I have been taking pictures with the camera , not the stream camera.
I've also attempted searching my computer to see if the photos are saving else where by searching VRChat_ with nothing showing up but the pictures I took on launch day.
I also tried uninstalling the game and reinstalling and no luck either.
Not sure if anyone can help a gal out, thanks! ❤

[ruby needle]

did you also clean the cache and temp during the reinstall?

[lilac swan]

I don't have a solution, but I know there are atleast a very few others that also have the issue where the camera doesn't save pictures

[ruby needle]

could it be a permission thing maybe

[thorn ermine]

Yes I've tried that cleaning cache yet, temp not sure what that is.

Im just confused because it worked fine on launch day and died right after

[ruby needle]

%TEMP%\Vrchat

[thorn ermine]

that looks pretty but what do i do with that LOL

[vocal shard]

Do remove the pepe emotes, thank you.

[thorn ermine]

Oh sorry!

[vocal shard]

yea

theynot allowed

"hate speech" figure

[thorn ermine]

Ohhh okay. Ooopsie!

[mighty galleon]

Like acorn

[vocal shard]

its dumb but there are normie tards here who still think that

[ruby needle]

let's not get into that

[vocal shard]

smh im not a hate speech figure

i AM hate speech

[mighty galleon]

You are

[thorn ermine]

So um cough whats the temp thing.

LOL

[ruby needle]

paste it to your explorer bar

itll bring you to the folder

%temp% is just a enviroment variable

[thorn ermine]

And what is zee the next step :3

[ruby needle]

delete the folder

[vocal shard]

delete the vrchat folder

lul

D E S T R O Y I T

[thorn ermine]

.... breathes heavy are you sure?!

[ruby needle]

yes

yes i am

[thorn ermine]

in b4 SIKE

[vocal shard]

sike

[subtle trout]

while playing the game some guy told me that if I smoke enough weed I can speak japanese

[vocal shard]

So what did you do?

fiesta salsa

[subtle trout]

I disreguarded that info

[vocal shard]

That's a slightly boring way to end the story, albeit the correct choice.

[subtle trout]

well what else was I supposed to do? believe it?

[vocal shard]

Well not really, just saying it doesn't make for the best story that's all

[subtle trout]

i'm not nathaniel hawthorn

[vocal shard]

you wouldnt know if you didnt try it

exactly

@subtle trout get your damn weed and smonk till you a jap

[subtle trout]

@vocal shard i am not in the possession o marijuana

[vocal shard]

then get it

Just sit next to stoners, passive smoke also works

[subtle trout]

i regret starting this topic

[copper furnace]

Dunno if anyone knows the solution, but recently in Vrchat in VR mode whenever I spawn into a world it's not in the normal spawn location. A lot of time it's way off the side of the map and I just continually fall over and over

[vocal shard]

Anyone here experienced with animations? Please DM if so, thanks.

@copper furnace did you try a different avatar?

[copper furnace]

Yes

[hasty wedge]

did u try recalibrating?

[copper furnace]

Its every avatar it just spawns me way off tot the side

Not yet wasnt sure if it was issue with SteamVR .

odd that when i hit respawn though not putting me in spawn location

[hasty wedge]

🤔

[vocal shard]

@copper furnace

R u good with animations

[copper furnace]

Yea sucks like half the worlds i cant go to because i just fall loop spawn cycler

[regal sedge]

Hello, I have a question. again. I see some people streaming and showing both the new in game stream camera, and their view through the goggles. How are they capturing both? I can't figure it out...

[copper furnace]

Meh, just basic spawn animations lol

Hmm wish a tech person knows wtf is causing this issue. I didn't change anything too so not sure why this started happening

[quiet prawn]

Phasor they are capturing both their VR display and the desktop display seperately. There is an addon for OBS that picks up VR display. Look into that

[regal sedge]

ahh

[quiet prawn]

I not home right now, else I'd just send you it.

[regal sedge]

I think i found it

[quiet prawn]

Note, this will capture everything in VR displat. Including any and all overlays you have active

[regal sedge]

that's fine. I don't mind if people see my chaperone

yay, thank you

got it to work

[somber rapids]

Which version of Unity should I be using?

[shy nest]

5.6.3p1

[sullen aspen]

I have a question

Because this happened last night and it has affected my friends accounts .

[shy nest]

what's the question?

[sullen aspen]

In a situation where we have people crashing other players repeatedly, but the crashees are the one who get temp bans what do they do?

[shy nest]

might be a good idea to send [e-mail] an email detailing the events with their output logs attached.

[safe glen]

What kind of temp bans?

Tell me what it said exactly

@sullen aspen

[sullen aspen]

One moment let me lol back

It says Error Could not log in :Temp Ban expires in a month :Crashing others /user harassment

But these players were not the ones crashing the games,

They are crashed themselves

[safe glen]

I understand

This sounds like something have been used against you in an exploiting way of abusing the system.

Kinda sounds like you have been banned from the new "trust" system

sorry, "by" the new trust system

[sullen aspen]

It’s ok

I don’t know if it happened to me yet

I am currently still at work

[safe glen]

It is not their fault, or anyone else's

The system have been abused, and the wrong people have been banned from the game

I strongly advise you to email directly to VRchat, instead of sending a report

[sullen aspen]

Will do because we have the names

[safe glen]

Good

Honest opinion here, I knew this would happen with the new trust system

It is a good thought from the devs, but we all knew this would be abused

[shy nest]

assuming it happened because of the new trust system

could be hackers just using other peoples names, not exactly unheard of

[safe glen]

Hah, well then it would not be for bad behaviour. Then it would be a ban for "hacking"

[shy nest]

"Error Could not log in :Temp Ban expires in a month :Crashing others /user harassment"

"crashing others"

[safe glen]

Which is avatar abuse

[shy nest]

tbh it just seems you have a hard-on for hating the new system

[safe glen]

I don't, I just see it being abused

[shy nest]

you've made clear multiple times that you see it being abuse to the point that anytime anyone asking about friends being banned or some shit that you instantly associate it with the new trust system

sure I don't particularly like it but its not the sole reason for everything when it comes to people being banned lmao

[sullen aspen]

Yeah that

Wait

Sorry my bad

[safe glen]

Well, crashing people is avatar abusing is it not? And if I remember correctly the new system is supposed to be preventing that.
But when it gets abused someone else gets banned, and I have no idea if you ever been a victim of this.
But I had friends already being a victim of this particular abuse.
This is not my first rodeo seeing this happen.

"lmao"

[uncut trail]

high poly avatar mate

[quiet prawn]

Personal gripes aside, all you can do is contact moderation or support depending on the nature of your issue. Nothing can be done without documentation.

[uncut trail]

hence you cause others to crash

[shy nest]

high poly doesnt = crashing

its materials and dynamic bones that cause the lag you get in game

[safe glen]

I agree with Deejay on that part

High polys are usually not the case of crashing someone

I've seen one guy with 1 mil polys and I didn't even lag :-P

[shy nest]

most mmd models are never optimized and are generally rocking 15-20 materials

[vocal shard]

That's a lot of polys

[shy nest]

where they using alloy from horizon zero dawn or something

[safe glen]

Yeah, and they go skyrocket with Polys aswell

A normal MMD model has around like 300k