#vrchat-general-2
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np!
Another avatar stolen by a guy who claims to have over 120 stolen avatars. Idiot even took one that has a logo on it.
-_-
Lool, that's rich
I wonder if people with stolen avatars have made avatar worlds with said avatars.
But I suppose anyone how steals avatars probably doesn’t use unity in the first place
Pretty sure there have been a few worlds with that stuff
So, whenever I start VRChat I notice it tells me the monitor and oculus have to be on the same graphics card hdmi. But I only have 1 graphic card hdmi, is it not possible for me to play VRChat in VR? 🤔
adapters are cheapcheap
Isn't display port better anyway.
yes
i don't, rip
grab one on the amazons
I use a dvi to hdmi adapter
im gonna have to use the adapter for my oculus then, because my monitor has a dvi to hdmi adapter already
lmao
My vrchat broke i would like to know all of ur location
ironically I have hdmi to dvi for my monitor, and dvi to hdmi for my headset
🤔
its because I have an hdmi switch for my pc and mac, and become my graphics card limits resolution on its hdmi port but not its dvi port
If we have a screenshot of someone using a stolen avatar that isnt ours but a friends can we submit a moderation report?
Someone stole my friends model and its been hard to get in contact with him because he is only on at night (australian time)
@small wing #moderation-reports
@vocal shard That is for animation on avatars. not for moderation reports of stolen content in game.
oh
you edited it
obviously
Yeah, thanks.
May I ask something?
What do the tacos in the intros chat mean?
@stiff vapor someone being edgy i assume
its kinda funny tbh
@raven silo I can agree that vrchat has opened me up a lot more.
I have very high functioning savantism and i used to be very social, but as of recently ive been dealing with some health issues. vrchat has made it easier to cope.
Interesting article for sure 👌
WHO can i talk to because SOMEBODY is ruining this instance with pictures that appear on your screen of glitches and naked people
and a mod request wouldnt send
Output log + #moderation-reports
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
Teamplay.
Ok.
Sending the output log is probably easier to do via moderation@vrchat.com
Just attach the text file to the email
Please mention which world and time
I can't find my output log. It just says the directory not found
In the email, that is
Oh boi.
nvm. found it
I have a suggestion.
VRChat should keep the past 3 output logs.
Then when the client is closed, it will 'shift' the saved logs, deleting the oldest one
@tacit plank you know there is a feature request channel? 'cause thats a good idea!
Oh right I forgot. My bad
@tacit plank even better... https://vrchat.canny.io/
But I'm too lazy 😦
Thanks!
you're wellcome...
Can someone please help me with modeling
I’m trying to stick clothing to a model
But when it moves the clothes don’t follow it
I’ve tried doing weight paint but it doesn’t work
does anyone know if you can upload avatars using a different version of unity
Maybe I’m doing it wrong but can someone help me with weight paint
This character has 2884 tris... In her nipples alone. The future is bright after all
I don't believe so, Seren. You're really recommended to use the VRChat version
Because I download models from a lewd site. Those guys care about quality!
That’s because you need the right unity version
plus i thought downloading a new version of unity wouldn't overwrite another one
Oh alright....
Lewd models ftw I guess
However
you have to use 5.6.3
i know
I need to put on clothes correctly, if someone an help me please dm me
i thought getting another version of unity doesn't overwrite it
I'm not sure on that one
60998 poly hair...
woah bruv
time to decimate
Yeah
decimate dat geometry dash
It's a character in only a bikini and thin panties, and it's 156k polies by default. Amazing
Eyebrows are 7k, why?
got to love those mmd models
way more polys than necessary
you could shave off 100k polys and you probably wouldn't even be able to tell the difference
I'm not going to put anything excessive into VRChat, don't worry
If I'm interested in a VRChat event, how do I know which world to join? It doesn't list the instance ID
Depends on the Event
Some events a invite link will be given, others have their respective worlds to join off
There's a link to a Google hangout thing, but I don't have any Google accounts
@placid umbra Is there a place to talk about world uploads? I had my world approved to be made public and never did any changes to it, now its somehow set to friends only.
I checked the upload queue where they give info on why its not approved or approved and it still says public
Shoot an email to support@vrchat.com with the details, they'll look into it. Make sure to include stuff like the world ID to make things easier.
That's a weird bug from before the update
What do you mean?
Privilege?
I 🤘 the camera
Streamers get early access to content as a way of advertising the game and teasing the audience.
Its not really much of a privelage i would say as much as it is a legal agreement for free sponsorship.
But yeah i can agree that its annoying being teased like that.
cough
What is the hotkey to for changing to the default model?
Someone able to tell me that xD
shift + \
anyone else notice this shader issue where it shows people using standard that aren’t
Love how I've paid two different people to make me a custom model, one person made a character nothing at all like what I asked minus the hoodie, the other just plagerized a Miku model with a cheaply made hoodie and custom hair
Nope. Both of them were too happy with their efforts to accept someone not liking it
Ugh.
If you want something right, you gotta do it yourself
you didn't check if they had good reviews?
One of them had good models, and said he wouldn't accept payment unless I was happy
then why did he accept it if you weren't
Because he was a liar
S-scamazed. 
Scam in 2018
He wanted to do his own take on the character
any pictures of the models?
I don't have them anymore, no.
you don't have the models either?
The issue with the first one is he wanted to make a realistic looking person

I wanted the character from my avatar
if u were commissioning for ur profile pic that wouldnt be hard
why didn't he just make a different model not from what you requested
like for themself
All this taught me is 3D artists are annoying to work with
It was to be $200, both times
Totaled to $200 overall for two failures
Yes
Lmoa.
The first guy made his own model
Just very different from my request
Only the hoodie was good
Bad experiences m8. Can't avoid them in life.
Ye
I know
Then I have this friend on another server whom offered to do the model free, as a way to get practice
i get models for free
But they had to leave the server ;-;
and they end up being what I want
Dm? 🤔
Stuff came up, they're not online anymore
That hurts. D:
like idk if a person is charging $200 for adding parts together might aswell not do it
They're a great artist too

Like holy heck they're great at drawing
what like adding clothes to a model? $200? wot
Yes
i’ve seen ridiculous prices for models not from scratch
He prob researched how much other artists charge, and based his lazy efforts on that
In any case, I'm not gonna pay for another model until I'm sure it's good
welcome to the art world lol
Yea
It's worse that I'm the kinda person that believes in doing things right when you're paid for it
Next week's update for Virtual Week-ality is going to be so good you're going to be speechless for a few seconds.
So these people that don't do what I ask with $100 of my money in their pockets baffles me
i guess the biggest advice i can give is make friends with people in vrchat that make or edit their own models but doesn't sell models because you might be able to ask them how to do things to a model or how to make one.
The problem is I want it done well. Professionally. I want my model to be perfect, adorable like Teru is
I don't think my first model would at all be like that
makes sense well i wish you the best of luck there are some great artist on this platform just need to keep looking for the right ones
I can dream
Look at their other work, I guess, to judge their avatar style and skill
But why not do it yourself? You can always modify it and do multiple attempts, etc.
I think Yahtzee Croshaw put it best on his first LDR
I forgot the wording tho
Something about being a jack of all trades is terribly hard, and it's easier to use money to pay professionals
Assuming you can find a professional 
well what they’re doing you could do yourself too
or have someone else reliable do it
did you get your requests from vr traders?
My first request was some guy I found on Google
The second was a post I put on the VR chat steam page like a year ago
you should just join the discord cause it has people that take commissions and they have to be verified I believe
and there’s a review section
Can you DM me an invite?
ya
finally got my vive trackers! 😄 now im in usb hell D:
i have one
but i need a new one XD
cuz the cradles dont seem to work through it
@raven silo ill look into that one, thanks!
So new oculus coming soon ?
with 140 view point ?
🤔
well, that doesnt mean that it will be the last one. i mean how long did they push out dev kits and stuff before cv1
3 versions i think?
Perfect time for me
o
Would you prefer if it came out rushed like vive pro
vive pro wasnt meant to be vive 2.0
It was still a disappointment
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
But fullbody that barely works and instead you need to buy trackers for rift now
Good one
I see
now time to take my vitamin gummies
Now I have to listen to some good music
did my vitamin gummies inspire u 

if u have the money and want it then prob
No money but I want it
rob it
But I want legal stuff
Depends on how you rob it
Deflected
cant deflect wut i did to myself

I probably should
anyways i fixed my issue of the bent arms x3
What did you do to fix it
played with heights thing and it worked
put like 6.5f
or 5.5f
then try to put your arms straight
4.11 is the best setting haters would say otherwise
Where do you set those things
settings menu
The height?
whatelse
Set it to 6'5 because of tyler1
ya
steamvr playing up
validate to make sure all g, need to download 3 things (115mb)
finish downloading 3 files
steam starts redownloading the entirety of steamvr again
thanks steam
gosh darn volvo
Valve has always been like that
probably 😮
Even since hl1
are you kidding me
once again I get my game crashed by somebody
and this time by a hacker called "im not a hacker"
actually am getting sick and tired of these people
please someone, anyone, figure out a way to stop hackers from ever being able to get on vrchat, please
I had the same thing happen so I'm doing the best I can and sending in my output log zzz
they crashed like 5 people in my room before getting to me
if you saw that comming why didnt you panic mode 
to get the output log
I found this one jerk with a model that crashed people and came to him after he crashed me and was like "I hope you had a good time having your fun on this game because very soon you arent gonna be on here for much longer"
pretty sure he is banned now
unfortunately they propably just make new accounts 
they can make a new account but all their friends unless they have a memory of a god or only have 1 friend then rip
they are not normal players 
They have no friends you see
yup
it's easy enough to report that I don't mind
oh well i do know one who actually didnt
even if they just remake it's discouraging
-pats lee-
and that person even confessed but since i have obs on recording for exactlythat purpose all the time i didnt really remember the name
hewo obama
I wonder how people get those recordings out
lee best photo
o thank you
no this guy before actually had a lot of friends from what I heard just he happened to have a model taht can crash people
what do you mean nimbo?
and he was a jerk to a little to many people and myself so yeah he is gone
How do they make obs not crash when a lot of stuff is going on
you are confusing things
first of i said i talked with that person in a different instance just casually
he basically went with another firend to the pug as in "lets go to a pug and crash some people, brb"
but even on a normal crash the game is what crashes not obs or stuff
and then i do record on a second pc
¯_(ツ)_/¯
which is why i dont hear a crash ding in vr
from the second pc
I generally stay out of public lobbies if I'm working in unity or blender
because I know I'm most likely going to get banoodled
at some point
lee
why... would you even be in vrchat while working in unity or blender? 
upload avatar and test it
weird human
Aren't we all
not me
dab
im beautiful
pauls a cow
but you're in the vrsona discord
you're a cow, i cant be mistaken
🌮
🌮 🔔
god

I wis hthat were me
ooo a meat surrounded by glass
hungry
👌🌮👌
🌮 
🌮👀💦
i prefer pauls ;3
🦑 🌮 🦑
tako taco
and taco
lee become mine?
no u
me become mine?
🦑 👍
become your own mine
i want lee instead
transcend
diamonds equal profit
lee's equal ass stuffing
look at what hes playing
🦑 💧
Beware butt shingles
I fixed it
boorriiinnggg
There a real thing
are there tho
Excuse me. I need to confiscate that taco
over my dead ass
🤔
💥
as you wish
Like ass crabs
don't tempt me with a good time bud
🤔 really makes you 🤔
🤔🤔🌮
-inserts cow-
🐄 
yes
🐄 👈
this is a cow
Why does that cow look like a spotted pig?
looks like a confused amoeba to me
🐖 👈
it doesn't this is how a pig looks like
@ruby needle <-- this is a cow
Roasted
i think you should visit schools again 
🌮🕺
very beginning 
schools is for fools
nah
i dont see the issue here 
school for cows
moo
moooooeow
now thats something you impregnate
a cow that has kittens, what would they look like....
it sounds like itll be adorable
catcow!
a giant cow sized cat!
a cat sized cow?
a actual cute version of lee!?!
oof
A cow sized trollface
I just woke up to some roasting xD, what a day!
nice day to be alive
Why does the block function not actually work? 
there new bug happen in block only last 10 min people saying
oof lol
Yeah.
have fun with that ig
They appear as a gray avatar, and then after a bit, they just return to themselves.
Lol
block feature allway get bugging after update lol
last year you can block people put they still see you
moo
need help with vive trackers is it possible for me to just buy 2 for my feet's or do i need one for my hip as well? like is it a must have for vrchat
-pats @vocal shard -
@pastel inlet vrchat works with either one tracker, or three.
@rough pulsar yeah, but if i just want to move my legs i can just get 2 ye? and forget about the hips?
Nope. It's either hips only, or hips and feet. There's no 'feet only' option.
gallium
damn living in australia is tough then lol
it comes to $400.48 with just 2
rip
and now its AU$ 544.07
for 3
I suspect because the IK needs a middle point otherwise there'd be too much guesswork.
rip
gallium question mama
guess i wont be getting on, far to expensive
go for it
11:43pm rn, should i go drive to gt something to eat
What's open? Also, what are you craving? Pizza? Burgers? Some nameless evil from before the dawn of time? Chicken?
kfc?
jack in the box chicken and tater munchie meal
Well, considering the number of tims I've gone to mcdonalds at 2am, or that one time I drove 30 minutes to the nearest burger king, I say go for it dude.
jack in da box is 7 min way by car xD
i should really buy food to have in my apartment one day
Or maybe order takeaway? There's this one chinese in town that's dirt cheap and the meal for one is so large I have to split it over two days.
i dont like having chinese often
b/c of it mostly having spicy or a lot of veggies it makes me feel sick
Although, the day I can order takeaway over the counter inside VR will be the day we've truly entered the future.
yeah xD
anyways off i go to put on shoes to drive!
I'm surprised the drive through is full
Guess everyone's hungry
Gallium hold my steering wheel?
I was about to say "do I look like jesus to you?" but apparently I do, only with nicer hair.
And clean
That too
And hopefully non stinking breath
i make beef n broc at home
cause it's not even hard
also dat curry chicken in a pan is gucci too
I have just uploaded at world with 700 avatars on it
how many copies of the same avatars?
None of them are copy’s
@mighty galleon there are a lot of nonspicy curries
there is?
Theyre really just yummy saucy or creamy curry things, so meaty
A lot of asian curry isnt spicy
never had any then
I mean even indian curry doesnt have to be spicy too
Cause moms make it for kids too and kids shouldnt be going spicy
Do they have any ETA on the block feature? It's still not working properly
And I'd say it's a pretty important feature to have fully functional, seem to be affecting a small player base though
^ Would love to know that
Quick question, how would I go about reporting a hacker?
Hey guys anyone know about the kinect 360 having tracking issues a friend of mine is currently having leg tracking issues
Still about to add chairs to avatars?
@old kraken Report them to the google form in #moderation-reports
@vocal shard <3

Non.
Oculus or Vive? 
Bonkulus.
Gonna cry.
Whei?
My life is a lie.

Im just trying to figure out some full body stuff 
You could try asking around #full-body-tracking 
As if i;d ever get an answer. 
it might be an avatar problem 🤔
I can't help ye 'cause I don't use those. 
I’m gonna try to get a Kinect so I can have some ghetto full body
kinect doesn't work for me because it doesn't install the required drivers ¯_(ツ)_/¯
can we ban particle in vrchat my client crasht many times today people spamming world full of it making loud sound
That moment when you really need help and get 0 response of 7 mods
Yea as those 7 mods have to look at this chat 24/7 👀
fed up with people using crash guns
Report them then
cant if i dont know who did it
You still can though ~
Can send your output logg and time of it happening towards moderation@vrchat.com
And to get the loggs ->
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
Do they still use the google form?
Jup but you cant send the file via that
Yea, that sucks :/
Well you used an email to sign up for steam/vrchat acc account anyway so
Can be its down for maintance
Helpdesk oclac 
If only i got payed for this
Thats more a bribe then a payment then 👀
I like to call it nda 👀
@Cyhann where's my check from last night? 😠
Wowie what di you two do then
@umbral reef ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jup
Sounds good
Anyone wanna meet up today if I'm free?
Cuz it's the first time in 2 weeks I've played and I wanna get a squad going
I'll leave this here, anyone who wants to have a fun time just pm me
Hey do you know what would work if someone sees a crash avatar screenshot it send it to a dev and boom they are banned
ay
lmao
does anyone know the email for vrchat support??
yes
i need help
what
send it to me~
thankiez
np
I need healing
f
Hi
sup morte
How are you doing?
This is quiet bizarre, Everyone who isn't y friend doesn't have a shader. But only my friends have shaders activated.
I'm new to VR so I'm not sure
slightly tired, not enough coffe hbu morte
I caught a palm sized spider
☕
I thought of keeping it a pet
But it would have been better to set it free
So I did. It was adorable 😃
Did you name him before letting him go?
I send the pic if you like
Wait, it depends, just the palm or palm+fingers
send tbh
Palm
^
It won't send
Can't post in this channel yea
😭
😂
It's adorable
i dont like this.. i have a bad feeling about this "trust" system.
what about existing users?
Hopefully it’s better than the Twitter one
hasn't the first part of this system been in since the last build?
yeah will I have to wait
So, basically, this is the closest we've got to "Levels" and "XP" in VRC.
this trust system sounds a bit finnicky
oooohhhh.
bit slow to post an update about it when many people have already been denied uploading due to it
but still..
couldn't people abuse the trust system just cause they don't like you?
true
That trust system doesn't sound oppressive in the slightest.
why do we have to level up in a virtual world where we just stare at each other awkwardly and chit-chat.
sounds annoying for uploading avatars for other people
you meet someone that doesn't like you
several people are typing...
get everyone to abuse the system to get you unable to upload avatars/maps
Several people are triggered
whoo boy
and the note about using the social features to defend yourself is a bit funny considering both blocking and muting is currently bugged and have been for more than a week
It sounds like it's attempting to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
🤔
block/muting someone doesn't work, right?
it unblocks/unmutes them after like 5 minutes
it works, for 5 minutes
Other people can't "vote" you down to a bad rep. Other factors that goes into play here
5 M I N U T E S is plenty
What kind of other factors could it be
jk
also people you have blocked a long time ago might be able to see you even if you can't see them. had that happen yesterday
@wet burrow so it’s a cathy mitchel infomercial? 🤔
5 minutes isn't plenty for blocking someone
ik i said jk
They strongly implied that it is based on the use of blocking and muting
I feel like the dev team is stealing only the most mediocre ideas I've suggested over the past 7 months.
By reminding us that those functions exist in the blog post
It's so strong
Cant users still bypass the Trust system with the Hacked SDK's that they already used?
then if it is, people can definitely abuse those systems
No Trixelen, read the post
Pan Diman is the real backbone of VRChat
I did read it.
@vocal shard No, as mentioned in the post: If a user does not have access to content uploading and they attempt to upload something via the SDK, they will receive an error. If they aren’t running the latest SDK, this error may not appear properly, but they still will be unable to upload content.
this wouldn't personally affect me, but this trust system seems weird
Weird how?
they are about to add this feature, yet i can't figure out why my game is so dam broken that i had to reinstall 7 times. and still can't hear anyone voicechat.
Well you know what they say, fellas
Anyone getting 'black mirror" vibes? That one "rating" episode
All toasters toast toast
Tupper, is there a way this system can be abused in order to get someone you don't like unable to upload avatars/maps?
A large part of VRChat is the content creation blocking that ability seems counterintuitive to me.
@sturdy zealot are you offline on steam
No, I didn't think of that episode at all
This is going to kill the game
@paper bluff for the 10th time no
ehehehehehe...... Not sure if this trust system is going to be good or disasterous. But okies. We'll see how it goes.
it seems like a nice system that will prevent people constantly making new accounts after they get banned to just continue on, but it's not very useful with the blocking bugged
Existing user policy? Will people who have a lot of stuff already done have to gain trust still?
@sturdy zealot oh... great
"kill the game" lmaoooo
@covert chasm What I'm hoping for is for custom scripts to be allowed for map creators eventually with this new system
Guys, are you all aware of the negative implications of the Trust system lol
It's going to kill the game, just like the shitty vive controls did
except the new vive controls are better
XD
I like them better too
Haha, it's not a free VRChat world anymore
as long as I'm not blocked from avatar uploading (I can currently upload freely and have 120+ hours logged in game) I am happy.
Limiting creativity in this game will be bad 😦
feels like this will only thing it affects is people who are a problem to the comunity
okay, that's overstating it
I'd say let's calm down a little and let the devs try it out, and we are able to give them feedback if it's good or not
Of course it sounds that way, that's how it is supposed to sound
Same, im at like 70 avatars amd a few worlds
This is clearly for people who are abusing stuff
@wet burrow Got an odd definition of dying because the weekend of the vive controll change the users count even went up just like the weeks before again...
Hopefully doesnt hurt me lol
hold my beer i have 537+ hour play duration on this game
Like avatars that are extremely annoying to deal with?
until it broke on me
I have to have like 40 avatars at this point
I wonder how they are going to police people acting badly with this many users?
The devs actually seem pretty smart considering how difficult some of the things they're doing are
Yeah I hope it ends up only affecting abusers
I was kidding
I have over 310 avatars.
this seems aimed at people that keep using crash avatars and the like
the chroma take: this will be a bit messy at the start but will ultimately reduce the amount of garbage without affecting user experience much
It really depends on how the devs go about this, really
You can tell because I was talking about the game dying once before
This is an ok idea imo
Out of curiousity, are there any other games that use a "trust" system effectively?
The fact that you actually have to wait for someone to manually grant you access to customization sounds fatal to me
No
I just want a day without people having to crash others 😂
Trust systems are always garbage
maybe csgo but that's an objective-based game
Just worried about the existing users
and even then that system arguably has issues
It generally kills the game, brb popcorn
it's too bad i can't play vrchat correctly because i'm still having issues hearing certain people despite doing everything i can to try and fix it
The way things actually work when they let the users decide who is good and bad never end well.
Does this mean the devs can look into the avatars you've uploaded?
@thick rivet you should be getting that automatically after the time passes.
SEVERAL PEOPLE are typing
I just hope users who don't have too many negative interactions get banned lol
@surreal cedar im having this problem as well
I REALLY hope there are safeguards against abuse of this system
I honestly hope there arent
Several people are raging...
then they will have to revert it
The only issue I'm still experiencing is lag in places, especially with only 20 people.
If people want to create content and do stuff in the game, waiting for a while shouldnt be an issue.
i'm confused and bloody annoyed by the lack of transparency on how this all works.
@covert chasm Will the devs look at the avatars you've uploaded to determine if someone is trustworthy?
several people are triggered....
it seems like a nice system in theory, so hopefully they will handle it correctly
@sturdy zealot i've had this problem ever since the latest update
I use the block/mute system to get people who are cluttering up photos out of the way sometimes, I don't wanna negatively affect them
which is im one of them
and it sucks
@surreal cedar metoo
honestluy
Only big issue is gonna be people who get banned and cant get back to be obnoxious
honestly*
The problem with looking at avatars, is, some things are okay in certain places.
that trust system sounds so trash
I'm sure they'll clear things up soon
meh say what you like this will be a decent step in the right direction, id honestly like to see something heavier like having to pay for uploading as it would deter people making trash or at least reduce the ammount of it
You can't assume everywhere is public.
Obviously the devs won't look at your avatars to see if you are trustworthy, since new users start out marked non-trustworthy.
The system seems abusable and soon no one can upload everything. I'm very worried even though I never do any harm to anyone.
Too many overreacting to this. We as players can't "trigger" a bad rep state automatically on another player
the trust system sounds good on paper, but being effective with it is going to be extremely hard
imo the trust system is a huge mistake
eh, lets see what happens
it's completely unecessary
lol @ people thinking a simple trust system is going to kill vrchat
Its a massive block for anyone coming in with annoying avatars wdym

it's better than nothing when it comes to people using avatars to crash others, then immediately make a new account when they get banned
We can just use the existing tools to defend ourselves.
Will it work like maplestories fame systen?
It shouldn't affect me, overall I think... I don't think it'll be too limiting
I would really hope for more transparency on a system like this, which is affecting such a core facet of the game.
U P D A T E T H E S D K 
Oclac they're not telling.
Let's go back to Second Life 
How is this new system going to help at all except limit creativity
idk @coarse blaze there are avatars that crash vrchat
I think it will harm things to start but it's not going to kill it, unless existing users are set to untrusted
So your hating on something while you have no idea at all how it works
i have that funny feeling those people saying it will kill it are the ones killing it now
You cant just join and be annoying anymore. You can still make things
while claiming it can be abused
i see nothing wrong with the trust system
how you block em if vrchat crashed
Let's form a resistance against this trust system.
then report them and ban anyone who uses the simialr system
Are you blind?
What worries me is that my avatars tend to scare people and I've been blocked by a few because they couldn't stand to look at me
:kappa:
Btw, how does it work?
yeah as much as i hate spammers and annoying people
You can still crash if you have them blocked
I'm PRETTY sure in logs there is info how you crashed
i don’t like how this sounds
@lusty drift if it works the way we suspect a group of trolls can mute a user and have them unable to upload anything
and what caused you to crash
I get the system, but I do not see anything new in game yet
screencao
i screencapped people before
or write a mail
this might hurt people with those horror avatars, depending on how the trust value is determined
@meager rose you won't get bad rep from just having a scary avatar.
It's pretty easy to figure out it's the avatar
remember the name too
So if I don't like someone's avatar I can mute them and then they won't be able to make more avatars, great!
my friends crashed from someone's avatar, because they were able to play just fine when that person was a diff avatar
soon as they changed back tho, they crashed again
you're talking about people specifically crashing you, but that doesn't do anything about people crashing entire worlds when they first spawn in
@wet burrow Where does it say that?
This chat is in ruins right now.
I doubt us as players will get that ability my guy
"This man isn't Black"
@umbral reef funny you think I'm hating. I'm just worried.
Have they fixed avatar theft yet?
This game keeps logs
you have announced something that you shouldn't have done it
unless they are google i dont see users having that power XD
I'm pretty certain they cann track how you crashed
@plucky whale no
several people are in rage mode.
ffs
Ffs
ffs
they are all butthurt cause now they cant troll
Now VRchat will for SJW's
they don't track how you crashed, but there are crash logs
Press ffs to pay respects
@umbral reef It doesn't, I was responding to someone's reason why they thought the system was a good idea
lads, vrchat future is gonna be dark.
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they could also just apply limitation to animations with those particles that crash you
that's also possible
imo
All of the panic
man everybody overreacting lol
fix the block bug and i'll be happy
So you do not know at all if something is part of this system and you use that as a argument for why its bad 
There's nothing wrong with a trust system, but the fact that they're unclear about the definition/requirements of "trust" and effects it might have, that's what's worrisome
Oh man that recent update it reminds me of something a old boss said “rules we made because of assholes”
i know i'll be fine and i'll still be able to upload avatars
Fixing bugs? 
They're just trying to find a way where they can not have to moderate avatars themselves
server muted till people change their bloody plugs
The Trust System is going to be abused.
Bet its a time based thing for accounts to be trusted
i just wish they fixed muting/blocking/this stupid voice error i keep getting
it seems so yes
That's all I will say.
I'm not raging, because I don't troll with game-breaking avatars. But somehow, I have a bad feeling about this feature
I got a feeling it will legit just be a time gate and a "oi you did not do bad shit so its ok" gate
Not "Need less then Y reports bet X day"
Who decides who to ban and who to "trust"
yeah i hate game breakers and abusers but
Who can I voice my concerns about this new feature to?
but ah well, in the end it shouldn't affect me
@umbral reef and that's why it's a bad thing
If its time vased, theres no issues lol
i don’t like how this sounds
@pseudo dawn twitter might be good
So a time gate is bad? That shit cant be abused so
wonder how they going to montior every single new user this might push people not want make stuff
There's a good chance their just protecting users against the only-visible image spam where people get banned on twitch and youtube for showing porn when it's just someone being malicious
I feel like it'll be like GTA V innocent banning but in VRChat mode
Couldn't I just DM one of the devs on Discord?
If the trust thing depends on how much you were kicked from a server, then it's truly terrible
Yes, it can, you just gotta get reports enough
implying the gtav players were actually innocent
id you mean the banwave earlier then yes
If you got questions ask them in here for basic stuff
Its they are big boy things email hello@vrchat.com
This is going to seriously harm Avatar Commissions 😦
but most bans in gtav are legit
They have dm;s turned off so no need to waste time in there ;p
Is there messages being removed by admins here?
I got banned from GTA V because a hacker gave me money 😂 😂
you are all so funny to watch here, you literally have no idea whats happening and so you are acting like itll end the world, typical human reaction, try waiting to see wtf is happening before you go full autism
well no duh
My most trolly avatar is actually a bomb with 1k polys and a soccer ball with like 200 polys XD
After I tried leaving
tbh I'd rather not have my avatar stolen than not crash once
I didn't want to take part of it, but..
probably
@fast bronze people are afraid they might be harmed by this
@plucky whale add your name on it?
the moment copyrighted characters are banned would be the moment it really died
@plucky hemlock They can't. It's a free to play game. Can't really monitor that easily.
if they continue this path, trust me.. their platform isn't going to survive anymore.
I'm afraid too cause me and my friends often fuck around doing weird shit and we keep getting messages "a mod will review this" or smth
You can't police copyrights and permissions
and that really scares at least me, that I'll be mispunished
no people are afraid they will be harmed by users abusing a system that has no user influance XD
Are the devs doing ANYTHING to help with stealing avatars
hopefully you'll have your upload privileges revoked @coarse blaze
You don't know who asked for permission etc
@stark swallow You know people and mainly companies can do more then one thing at a time?
@opaque remnant smh y u do dis
@stark swallow just code in a embedded file into the textures so they can open them and see its yours
Tho I am wondering, if you don't have your upload privileges, do you keep the uploaded avatars
anyways who thought that it was a great idea to implement this feature?..
or do they all get... deleted?
You'd need an entire army of lawyers to police VRChat avatars in a fair manner lol
then the accounts with the clones will be identifiable from the devs end
But how hard is it to get
We know nothing about the system, bitching right now about what it can be and what it isnt and going out off the worse has no effect...
Just wait until you get more information 
What will be next?
The ban on uploading avatars from other games?
We have peeps already complaining about things that wont even happen
this is like when the family toaster catches fire and grandpa's groaning about the endtimes
Is playmaker still on sale
I’m saying for other people. If someone has my Avatar they instantly have a dick in their face
But avatars could calculate a hash based on the file, that way duplicates would be easy to spot. Problem with this is just that some avatars are public and others are private
It says in the article that we will be given no more information, so waiting for information is pointless
@stark swallow sounds like an amazing idea
lol
No srsly, I'm wondering.
If you get your upload privileges taken away, do you still keep your avatars or do they all get deleted?.. Or what happens with the ones you have uploaded
yo uh spicy question for y'all panicbois, why would they do something that anyone knows would kill the game?
@stark swallow hey man to some people that's a nice sight
better than my idea of “hey this avatar is stolen”
some
@vocal shard Implying people testing with an new acc if its just a time gate or not is not knowledge
like i said just encode a line in the textures and you can have the devs look directly at them and see its your work
Their screen is just penis yes
I'm okay with that
@vocal shard even if they have account not able upload own avatar they still figure way steal avatar
They won't do anything about copyright unless they get a specific dmca, even then it would only apply to that single instance
Yeah you can steal avatars without uploading them. But you might not be able to change to them if they block that
i mean everyone knows that
We know jack shit about how this works and we think its way to strickt, does things we dont want and can be abused 😂
cucks will abuse it lmao
but why ping me in particular
Lots can be abused, not everything
"meme avatar, muted and blocked"
@kind folio playmaker is still on sale
abuse me
i take back that statement
Okay
You can fuck a table
lewd
DIVIY
@umbral reef I know they can do more than one thing. But avatar stealing is one of the top issues in this game
lol
Okano
Sooo... How long is it gonna take to get this ability to upload? I can't be that active due to my life being busy, but I have uploaded both avatars and worlds, never with malicious intent.



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