#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 391

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 2:58 AM

#

why my shader pink

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:02 AM

#

Thanks for making me realize all of my work and hours I've put into making models was a giant waste of time 😄

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:03 AM

#

Wait what

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:03 AM

#

just wait

#

it'll settle soon™

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:04 AM

#

^

zealous quarry Apr 25, 2018, 3:07 AM

#

So all the devs did was nurf art and cause it so the only animations people are going to make are troll animations I’m disappointed with the vrchat devs I found something I loved and now I can’t make beautiful thing thanks for ruining my favorite game

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:07 AM

#

VRC is no longer playable for me. My internet is too bad to load all the cameras.

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

the smol ball of light is causing u issues?

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

Walk into a room with 10 cameras for 10 different people just destroys my bandwidth

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

VRchat's a little bit more playable for me on my part because I can load into a lagless map as my spawn point

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

cause i dont think it renders to others

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

I get 950kb/sec

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

OOF

#

rip

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

No, theres a floating puck with a name above it

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

950kb/sec in 2018

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

When i look at them my game needs to buffer

#

Right. It's $60 USD a month as well.

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

Get some good wifi

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

Only thing where I live.

#

It's either that or nothing

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

what country?

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

Minnesota, USA

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

thought so

#

american internet is A SCAM

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

Land of the money hungry

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

i swear

#

one time the internet bill was $200

#

$200

#

????

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

Oh god, yeah. Comcast is so bad I actually use my phone's hotspot for wi-fi

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

Id pay $200 for anything over 2mb/s

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

.-.

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

a month?

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:09 AM

#

Yes

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:10 AM

#

😅

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:10 AM

#

Im paying $60 for dialup basically

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:10 AM

#

In fact, Xfinity/Comcast is so bad to us that our router only works like 1% of the time and the other 99% is it trying to establish the DNS and not being able to

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:10 AM

#

I specifically designed a few animations for an Undertale world that a friend made for battle animations to mimic boss fights and I put so much time into it. And now all the attack sequences I programmed an animated don't show up anymore. I spent DAYS working on it.
Eventually I will cool down, but I feel like thanks to these @#^% spammers and memesters EVERYONE gets screwed over. Because apparently everyone forgot a Block Avatar and Block User feature existed.

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:10 AM

#

I have to block anyone who uses the camera in order to play. This sucks

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

used to get issues with the router all the time with comcast but then just bought my own

#

and it works perfectly Hammhappy

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

You're a genius

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

I did the same thing and the routers were all a pain in the ass to use

#

:c

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

(:3」∠)

full ivy Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

meh x.x VRChat keeps glitching me in certain places and when i switch camera, it will take like forever and sometimes when i toggle on the steamVR menu sometimes happens that my vive controllers goes in tilt like x-x

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

@vale fog Yeah I'm getting that too.

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

I hope our internet is a lot better when we move up to New England

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:11 AM

#

The devs killed creative potential for a stupid poorly optimized camera.

full ivy Apr 25, 2018, 3:12 AM

#

i tough that the new update could fix some major issues for vive users 😦

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:13 AM

#

I'm worried now too, because now the community I am in is falling apart and people are just out right quitting VR chat because their avatars are ruined.

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:13 AM

#

its only day 1 they just need to wait even tho it was a dumb change

#

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 3:13 AM

#

That always happens with new updates

#

"New controls suck, I'm leaving this game" plays the day after

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:14 AM

#

I know, but you know when people with a strong passion behind their creations they spent a ton of time on just suddenly see their work get dumped on. It hurts them where home is.

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:14 AM

#

yeye

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:15 AM

#

I'm not trying to dump on the update, I'm sure somewhere somebody meant well? Maybe?
But I honestly hope it gets restored or at least increased to where certain peoples work can at least be of acceptable use to them. :<

wild stump Apr 25, 2018, 3:15 AM

#

is the new sdk broken

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 3:16 AM

#

Doesn't let me upload

full ivy Apr 25, 2018, 3:16 AM

#

also the extender of the camera photo does not have hitbox

#

only the camera has

wild stump Apr 25, 2018, 3:16 AM

#

ya i hope they fix

#

it

full ivy Apr 25, 2018, 3:18 AM

#

for me is ended like: Dark Souls 3 - WTF are hitboxes edition

winged quartz Apr 25, 2018, 3:19 AM

#

@feral stump my boi

#

I want to ask you something really quick

#

Oh, yeah, he's an admin

#

fuck.

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 3:21 AM

#

Big time failure boy

winged quartz Apr 25, 2018, 3:21 AM

#

:/

vale fog Apr 25, 2018, 3:21 AM

#

Where do make suggestion

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:21 AM

#

I'd ping Tupper and thank him for the help he gave a few nights ago to me but I can't DM him without adding him, and I don't think he'd add me back

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 3:21 AM

#

@vale fog #feature-requests

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:23 AM

#

@uncut talon tupper usually notices mentions here cirComfy

#

and lurks active often cirBaka

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:24 AM

#

Oh!

#

Well, then

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:24 AM

#

being @ 'd 24/7 must be cancer animewink

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:24 AM

#

@covert chasm! I'm sorry to ping you, but I meant to thank you a bit back for helping me with the avatar problem I had a couple to a few days ago and I wasn't able to DM you to do so; So, Thank you so much!

#

I can't blame any admin or mod for being pinged so much, honestly, and I'm trying my hardest not to bug them

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:25 AM

#

Uhh, the cameras are local though

#

GWseremePeepoThink

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:25 AM

#

@hasty wedge i guess you can't really avoid that with a important role in bigger projects

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:25 AM

#

troo

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:25 AM

#

(I mean, I kinda help with a Pokemon fangame so it's pretty relatable)

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

Bupper is also always watching

#

why my shader pink tumpper

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

did u apply the textures to the material

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

GWfroggyMonkaMega

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

🅱anned

uncut talon Apr 25, 2018, 3:27 AM

#

ouo;

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:29 AM

#

WAN MONTH

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:30 AM

#

MomijiOhayou

warped dew Apr 25, 2018, 3:35 AM

#

Is it true hackers can invade private worlds again?

slate shuttle Apr 25, 2018, 3:35 AM

#

Everything new related to cameras VR-only?

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:36 AM

#

ye

slate shuttle Apr 25, 2018, 3:36 AM

#

feelsbadman

warped dew Apr 25, 2018, 3:41 AM

#

So uh, can they?

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:43 AM

#

i would be very carefull with any hacking or security rumors curently

#

a lot trash talk curently cus they are pissed of by the update

warped dew Apr 25, 2018, 3:43 AM

#

Ah. Lol. Howso

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:44 AM

#

cus the new update brought limitations to the particle system which kind of breaks avatars that are over the limit

#

and those who invested a god fraction of time into that are understandably anoyed by it

#

but then again... this is an early access alpha... in other games shit gets wiped inbetween patches all the time cirMini

warped dew Apr 25, 2018, 3:45 AM

#

Is it to prevent people from abusing effects causing game crashes?

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:46 AM

#

not only crashing but generally overusing particles

#

unfortunately there is still ways to crash as i had to read a few times

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:46 AM

#

So basically

#

They can still follow you, from an instance to a private one

#

But they can't just get you in a private one

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:47 AM

#

as in follow into a portal?

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:47 AM

#

Imagine the follow command in runescape

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

i belive going to your home and from there to the next intance would be a good way to make sure you're private cirThink

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

Bingo

warped dew Apr 25, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

Because yesterday, there was someone in a never have i ever world that had an emote that if you didn't disable avatars or block him, he would crash your game.

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

Did you report him

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

well... yesturday way pre patch cirBaka

#

at least. depending on region

#

but its stil possible cirBlech

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:49 AM

#

Oh on the topic of horrible hackers/crashers.
Be on the look out for a Sans100.

#

Apparently he can still see you if you block him and steal your stuff private or public.

#

He also uses some odd things that manipulate interactive objects causing them to crash instances.

austere gulch Apr 25, 2018, 3:50 AM

#

Quick question, is avatar uploading still down?

warped dew Apr 25, 2018, 3:50 AM

#

Does he invade private instances? @stiff pivot

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:50 AM

#

He has.

#

I had him blocked at the time but another friend who did not know him was seeing him.

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:51 AM

#

i have updated 3 avatars an hour ago @austere gulch

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:51 AM

#

The community I am with is trying to catch him on video acting stupid so we can form a convincing case on him.

opaque hawk Apr 25, 2018, 3:51 AM

#

Good to know Ali

austere gulch Apr 25, 2018, 3:51 AM

#

@ruby needle With the new SDK? :\ Mine keeps freezing.

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 3:51 AM

#

”watch out for this thing you have no control over anyway even if you did meet it"

#

K

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

oh no i havent updated yet. right new sdk

#

time to grab it cirBaka

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

Catching him on video and getting a good enough case to get him removed is some form of control, but your stupid snarkiness is appreciated.

austere gulch Apr 25, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

Welp, time to downgrade my SDK then lul

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

inb4 hes reading this rn and already prepared a new account 👌

warped dew Apr 25, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

What avatar does he frequently use (assuming it isn't obviously sans)

jaunty apex Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

Where are the camera screenshots saved?

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

Frequently it is Sans he hangs around Underhub or Snowdin often.

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

ur picture library

jaunty apex Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

234 already WutFace

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

@jaunty apex Pictures folder -> VRChat

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

RIGHT

jaunty apex Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

maybe i shouldnt walk up to everyone and take a picture of them

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:53 AM

#

the screenshots are addicting af

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 3:54 AM

#

Well, that's because you are addicted to yourself

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 3:54 AM

#

aunnblush

slate shuttle Apr 25, 2018, 4:03 AM

#

wow

#

the newsletter from vr daily is savage lol

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:06 AM

#

What does it say

slate shuttle Apr 25, 2018, 4:16 AM

#

something about some RPers having better relationship than the previous RPer

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

#

"Remember. No russian"

blazing wave Apr 25, 2018, 4:37 AM

#

so i saw resently someone has the stream cam and their perspective cam going at once, how do you do that? Do you display mirror or some version of it as the game?

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:38 AM

#

@vocal shard Remember, no campaign in Black Ops 4

modest halo Apr 25, 2018, 4:43 AM

#

someone I know is claiming models over 65k tris/polygons are getting deleted from accounts in public instances I want to confirm if this is false information

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:43 AM

#

Who the fuck is gonna have 65k tris

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:43 AM

#

Sooooo many people?

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:44 AM

#

What makes you think that

modest halo Apr 25, 2018, 4:44 AM

#

idk but I just want to know if the guy is wrong cause it sounds false to me

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

#

It's still stupid to have that since Unity makes two meshes and you don't have any shape keys at all

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

#

I haven't had it happen.

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

#

@modest halo i dont belive it but even if it would be true, 20k is the limit if you are over then having them just deleted is actually nicer then getting banned for exploiting limitations cirMini

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

#

It sounds like you're new to it is all.

modest halo Apr 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

#

who is new to what

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

#

I don't think they delete them

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:46 AM

#

Can't really ban people for poly-count if they don't follow those same rules.

#

Just saying.

#

Well, all my models are under the 20k limit.

#

Not much for me to worry I guess, more of the lag and crashers still.

#

Materials are the name of the performance game really.

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:47 AM

#

20k is the max MODEL poly's you can uppload without hacking the SDK which is a ban reason

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:47 AM

#

Atlas your stuff, kthx.

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:47 AM

#

it doesnt matter how much sense it makes

#

thats the limit

#

its the rule

#

so respect it

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

It's a rule that even moderation and development can't follow 100%.

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

People have trouble creating bones in blender, lmao asking them to atlas their shit is hell

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

So I'm not worried.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

yea but... materials are easy to increase

modest halo Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

half the people that play don’t follow it anyways

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

It's like the nudity rule.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

and they make things look so good

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

You can atlas with cats anyway

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

I have screenies of mods saying it's tolerated.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

cats atlasing sucks

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

yes it does

modest halo Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

@vocal shard I want to see

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

I can't bring myself to go through tuppers long atlasing vid though

#

😦

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

depending on what instance it is and if all are fine with it it in deed is tolerated Saigo

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

Not worth it for me

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

that and I like being able to customize all parts of my model

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

I just don't atlas

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:49 AM

#

so 20+ materials4life

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

Nudity is a ban according to TOS and EULA.

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

I would not have admitted that

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

But mods say otherwise.

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

You can use nsfw in private instances

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

in public instances yes. in private, no

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

admit what

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

No, it's a ban, no matter the instance.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

being able to hit a + button in blender

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

#

Just so we're clear.

#

The mods are the ones saying it's okay in private instances.

#

TOS and EULA says no.

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:51 AM

#

it's precedence

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:51 AM

#

As long as mods are ok with it

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:51 AM

#

that is mostly to cover their ass in cases of legal actions tho

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:51 AM

#

TOS and EULA are the contractual agreements.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:51 AM

#

very loose ones too

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:51 AM

#

if the people enforcing the rule don't enforce it for some reason, that reason is attached to the rule.

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:52 AM

#

There's no reason attached.

#

It bluntly says no.

#

If there were exceptions, it should be there.

#

Just saying.

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:52 AM

#

it should but isn't. but we know how it's enforced.

#

so..

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

I mean

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

Sooo, they should update their documentation.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

lets be honest though

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

it's like weed in states where weed is legal, it's still illegal federally but not enforced.

#

all the same

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

Same with poly-count and modifying the SDK.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

does anyone actually follow the TOS and EULA to the T

trim oracle Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

anyone else having large fps drop sinc the patch?

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

Depends on what world you are in

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

Pug is bad

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

if you even have a tick box to flagg your content as NFSW and such in the SDK, then what is that if not a sign that this is a gray area but definitely nothing for public instances

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

afaik their whole shtick is "don't make other players have a bad experience"

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

right

trim oracle Apr 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

they are doing a great job of that themselves

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:54 AM

#

Tick boxes were Unity standard that they now take advantage of.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:54 AM

#

and lets be honest, there are lots of people who would love to see their waifu in full 3d flat lit naked glory

#

with a man voice

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:54 AM

#

Traps you mean

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:54 AM

#

I don't think they care

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

a male playing a female character is not a trap...

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

right

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

i have pictures of my nudes

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

thats normal here

#

ROFL

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

I know it's not a trap

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

ill post here rq but click quickly dont wanna get kicked 🤷

#

https://puu.sh/A24rj/dcbd86459f.jpg

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

Using trap avatars though

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

you leave felis alone

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

#

thats different

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

You're right. A male playing a girl ava isn't a trap. He's just a SINNER

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

felix

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

It's a female avatar. Not a male that looks female.

#

Not a trap.

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

aunnblush

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

Lewd

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

its my old body

ruby needle Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

exactly @vocal shard

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

is the new one a jetski

#

?

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

#

everyone is a trap regardless of true gender or avatar /s

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

Well I agree

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

doesn't trap imply some degree of duplicity

#

everytime I see a female avatar I assume male

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

Was just checking up on the rumors about the hacker wars and account theft.

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

duplicity

#

the fuck is that wordd

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

Not as worrying as I'd expected.

#

HF!

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

i feel disrespected

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

Everyone is a trap because we trick the other person into liking us.

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

trick?

#

lmao

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

im clearly a boat

#

learn the difference

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

ECKS DEE

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

I think some people just stare at dynamic bones and like you

#

if you know where I mean

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

when u see undecimated pantsu

#

AILewd

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

😮

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

Undecimated nanachi

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

I donno

#

sometimes

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

Speaking of which i still need to make floating panties

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

id be happy if nanachi was decimated to 1 poly

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

I see decimated pansu in the right spots

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

With eyeballs

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

#

and it makes me glad I checked under their skirts

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:59 AM

#

wew

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 4:59 AM

#

That's why I use short avatars

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 4:59 AM

#

Nanachi will become ichi-poly

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 4:59 AM

#

I have an ant sized avatar

#

you cannot hide from meh

#

unless your avatar wears pants

#

then its a goose egg

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 4:59 AM

#

ant sizes are fun until the map messes ur menu up

#

feelsnepman

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:00 AM

#

under my skirt is a wild and wonderful acid trip

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:00 AM

#

How short you can be? What a limit?

#

Can I be microavatar

#

Nanoavatar

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:00 AM

#

As long as the sdk wants you to go

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:00 AM

#

animewink

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:01 AM

#

Talking mouth with visemes underneath the skirt, when

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:01 AM

#

o god

#

no

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

Real mouth, a fake.

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

have colliders on ur hand and dynamics on ur skirt and lift it up and talk

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

Or both move I suppose

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

I'd have nightmares for weeks

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

😅

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

Hahahahaha

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

naw thats not how you do it

#

what you do

#

is you pick the bones of the bottom of the skirt

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

But you can be so much long as you wish... lolathon

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

and animate it to reparent to your fingers

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

question, does anyone know if a hip tracker is worth it? im getting trackers and such at the moment but dont know how viable one for you midsection is...

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

a talking felix bulge blobthinkingsmirk

hollow grove Apr 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

#

thats the proper skirt flip

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

you have to have hips to have feet

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

leg movement is god but the real game changer is cause of the hips

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

that's a general life lesson imo

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

do you? coulda sworn i saw someone without it...the biggest thing is securing them, i really dont wanna spend 84 bucks for securing them tbh

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

its either 1 hip or all 3

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

rubber bands aren't 84 dollarydoos

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:04 AM

#

dollarydoos, lol

#

ffs

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:04 AM

#

they are exactly 84 VRCoin

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:05 AM

#

yeah, i might try that, hopefully it works cuz im just gonna 2day the 3 trackers

#

i'll be salty if they keep falling off lol

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:05 AM

#

Buttcoins

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:05 AM

#

LoliCoin

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:06 AM

#

lolis gachiGASM

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:06 AM

#

i'd invest the hell outta some loli coin

#

tbh

#

im a degenerate dontcha know?

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:06 AM

#

Wasu wasu wasuuuup loliicooOooin unity_chan_dab

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

BIT CONNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECT

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

LOLICOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIN

shy nest Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

one letter away from 👉 🚓

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

My sister was a loli once

#

I found her gold choco coin collection

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

my sister still is at 16

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

we need to cut up @hasty wedge into coin-sized pieces, got it

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

..... Twenty years later

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

You were a loli once 💦

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

stare2

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

Oh yeah, i was!

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

or a shota

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

like idk guys

shy nest Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

y'all are fuckin weird

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

fml

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

i was born as a WW2 destroyer

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

Tfw was also 14/f/cali at some point

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

#

Why you stop being loli? EXSGT

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

and suddenly became into the body of a smol grill

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

Because nobody dates loli

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

i marry them

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

oh no

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

kinirohappy

shy nest Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

vrpill 👉 🚓

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

Loli's are OP

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

all the lolis in the world are my imouto

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

Also no a s s

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

and ill stop here before getting kicked again

#

xd2

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

Nobody dates loli because 👮

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

Same, can't get too passionate in VRC General

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

feelsnepman

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

Any physical form with no a s s is a prison

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

#

ur just jealous

#

u disgusting developed t-thing

#

AIDisgust

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

#

And 3D loli == 2D divide loli

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

#

3d

#

go away 3DPD

#

reeee

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

#

3dpd

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

#

Not equal

#

So nobody dates lol u because 2D loli not existing

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

#

idk man

#

stay in denial but my lolis r real

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

#

tanabae

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

#

youmushrug

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

#

You're loli's are real? Can I have some?

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

#

no theyre my imoutos

#

REEEEE

#

u can hug and protec tho

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

#

H-hug

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

#

Bitch do you even know how annoying little sisters are

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

but

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

aunnblush

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

what if i make you my imouto

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

Oh my god i had so many fights with mine

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

then ill have no choice but to call u

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

If some people have real 2D lolis nobody gonna show that because it's dangerous for loli and you will never give them to other people

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

onii

#

SAMA

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

She was a fuckin menace that stole shit from me

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

WewLad

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

oneesama*

#

<3

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

ou

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

owo

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

uwu

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

UwU

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

don't worry, oneesama will take care of everything~

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

#

blobblush

#

wait shiet

#

its 1 A M

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

same

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

My imouto ran around so much as a loli that we had to keep her on a literal kid-leash

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

Bitch do you even know how annoying little sisters are
Onichaaaan tanabae

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

She was like a rabid animal

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

cute

#

aunnblush

tacit plank Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

Real kids are like pets. They're cute, but also a pain in the ass, so it's easier just to visit somebody elses

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

i listen to my imoutos call me oniichan atleast 97859 times a day and my heart goes doki doki everytiem

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

I'd hug the fucc outta that loli

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

Of course

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

#

Hammhappy

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

#

She was so active and fidgetty as a baby that she climbed out of her tall chair wrong once; i came into the room and she was almost choking to death on the table

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

#

BlobHyperSweats

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

#

Cause her fat baby head was hanging in that space

#

Little girls are too annoying lmao

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

#

vrpill

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

#

She also tumbled down the stairs a lot for fun

#

for FUN

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

#

it was fun

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

#

She had to go to the hospital twice

#

She bust her lip wide open both times

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

o

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

And needed stitches for head

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

She will be immortal when she grows up

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

Ah, i hate imouto sometimes

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

just building that immunity system

tacit plank Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

I haven't had younger sister, but I've met somebody elses little sister and she was such a pain

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

Well she isnt much better as a 24yo imouto now

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

Loool

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

Recently she fell off a ladder lmaoo

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

oooooooooof

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

Clumsy imouto.....

#

Sigh

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

#

cmonImouto

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

why did god have to give me a oniisan

#

feelsnepman

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

I want an oniisan or an otouto

#

I would spoil them

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

i am the oneechan irl

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

spoil ur otouto i c

#

WewLad

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

it's pretty good

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

KogasaLewd

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

My otouto can have my vidya gamez and extra pc partz

#

Always

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

Ye, my bro and I are on great terms with each other

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

#

And i would bake things for him

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

#

i'm waiting for my imouto and otouto to grow up a little so i can show them the ways of STEM

#

yaaa

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

#

Uuuu, can you bake for me, I can be your lil bro

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

#

Well i got some velvet cookies rn

#

You can has

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

#

why am i like this: https://i.gyazo.com/b5cb21dde5b8c24a5fb426a4a0246c13.png

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:17 AM

#

POGCHAMP

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:17 AM

#

i think thats the most reaction ive ever had on a statement

#

FeelsGoodMan

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

how did u know it was my birthday

#

so generous

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

I made panko breaded chicken too in the oven

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

blobblush

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

Inviting all otoutokuns to help me eat it

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

Ideal Onee-chan 💦

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

I feel like the "without the smug" is a lie >_>

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

brocon

#

wew

#

u see

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

#

smug is only as smug as the mug it's smugged on

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

#

i made a deal with my pet cat 2 months ago

#

to not smug for a month but it is still going on

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

#

Uhoh

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

#

idk why

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

What if you lose

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

Oh i thought you were gonna say your cat has to become a nekopara

#

Phew

#

A CAT IS NOT FINE TOO

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

i dont wanna know temmie monkaS

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

Cat in society too

knotty notch Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

headset question - my headset keeps going black, aside from reseting my computer all the time, how else do i fix this?

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

the cat is a high lvl mage

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

i'll be loli's nekopara

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

G a y

safe prism Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

okyyanyooo

#

ww

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:21 AM

#

wkwkwkwkwkw

#

(:3」∠)

#

ok

#

ima go release the heat o/

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:22 AM

#

Heat comes out of your...
Exhaust?

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 5:23 AM

#

wat

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:23 AM

#

due to not wanting to make something canon and ruin the current creative works from the fanbase from setting it to stone i cannot answer that question and it can only be revealed through proper research and from the clues since the very beginning thank u for the understanding

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:24 AM

#

Ah, understandable, have a nice day

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:24 AM

#

Hibikek

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:24 AM

#

We live in a society

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:24 AM

#

A society.

#

A.

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:25 AM

#

We truly do

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:26 AM

#

I made croquettes

#

LF otouto to help eat

#

My imouto doesnt like em

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:27 AM

#

wha?

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:27 AM

#

Therefore she must not be human

#

And probably is a lizard person

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:28 AM

#

What is otouto

iron heart Apr 25, 2018, 5:28 AM

#

Younger bro

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:29 AM

#

you taking applications?

vital rune Apr 25, 2018, 5:30 AM

#

!online

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:30 AM

#

just gonna have to retype it

vital rune Apr 25, 2018, 5:30 AM

#

!online

floral flaxBOT Apr 25, 2018, 5:30 AM

#

There are 5073 users in VRChat currently

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

#

Few

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:33 AM

#

?

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:43 AM

#

That feeling someone calls this chat obnoxious

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

yea, i read that, in avatar channel

#

lul, we don't know all the answers

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 5:46 AM

#

Lul i don't have VR set

#

Even good computer for playing no VR mode

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:47 AM

#

aw, rip

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:48 AM

#

At least you can enjoy the good avatars

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:48 AM

#

ill sell u a rift + 3rd tracker for 320$ ZoomEyes

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:48 AM

#

Better buy vive

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:49 AM

#

what a steal

#

not to mention, smug is even throwing in their scent

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 5:49 AM

#

Smug aint included so it aint a good deal then

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:49 AM

#

it has my scent tho that alone is over 200 VRCoins

#

could give it to perfume lab and make millions

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:50 AM

#

Does it have an extra 100 VRCoins

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:50 AM

#

hue

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:51 AM

#

That's pretty cool but

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 5:51 AM

#

Fck man i gotta get out of my bed and make food

#

for today but im to lazy

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:51 AM

#

kozu

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:51 AM

#

Where are your fingers

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:51 AM

#

in my hand i think

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:53 AM

#

Skeletons are scary and spooky, but you know what else is?

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:53 AM

#

u

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:53 AM

#

Teenagers

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:54 AM

#

remuthink

#

still u tho

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:54 AM

#

Do you feel this connection that we have?

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:54 AM

#

roasted

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:54 AM

#

I've been feeling it all day

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

#

oh my, slide into them DMs

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

#

I know, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

#

steal smugs scent

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

#

No no you say it first

#

Ok, I'll say it

#

6606.48 divided by 2

#

kisses

hasty wedge Apr 25, 2018, 5:56 AM

#

vrpill

#

torpedo squadron attac

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 5:57 AM

#

hecc

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 5:58 AM

#

I watch Rick and Morty

#

If you tear apart something I love, you might cause me to shed a tear

#

Yeah I need to go to sleep

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 6:00 AM

#

time?

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 6:00 AM

#

12am

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 6:01 AM

#

oh ye, you need some sleep

devout island Apr 25, 2018, 6:01 AM

#

And I have school tomorrow so

#

Good night or good morning whatever

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 6:01 AM

#

g'night

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 6:02 AM

#

I have 9 am

#

Night

mighty galleon Apr 25, 2018, 6:10 AM

#

<.<

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 6:10 AM

#

so much for the new particle limits :v

#

took all of 30s

#

to figure out how to remove them

shut scroll Apr 25, 2018, 6:10 AM

#

didnt know nimbo was micheal

sick vector Apr 25, 2018, 6:11 AM

#

just wondering, where do screenshots taken with the camera go?

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 6:11 AM

#

in the pictures folder under vrchat

#

well, if youre on windows of course

sick vector Apr 25, 2018, 6:12 AM

#

hmm, they are not there

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 6:12 AM

#

🤔 strange

shut scroll Apr 25, 2018, 6:13 AM

#

tried C:\Users\user_name\Pictures\VRChat

#

?

sick vector Apr 25, 2018, 6:13 AM

#

let me check

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 6:13 AM

#

You mean new stream camera?

sick vector Apr 25, 2018, 6:14 AM

#

aaa there they are, thank you!

shut scroll Apr 25, 2018, 6:14 AM

#

all g!

trail stirrup Apr 25, 2018, 6:52 AM

#

im constantly moving and i cant access the menu or stop

#

i cant seem to find any help docs on the new movment controls

foggy raven Apr 25, 2018, 6:52 AM

#

What if you plug off your keyboard?

#

Or you are playing with VR set?

trail stirrup Apr 25, 2018, 6:53 AM

#

vr, desktop wasnt changed

#

hmm it says it's classic by default dont know whats wrong

indigo fern Apr 25, 2018, 6:53 AM

#

classic vive controls were the controls from like a month or two ago

#

advanced is the one that we've been using since then

trail stirrup Apr 25, 2018, 6:54 AM

#

oh i see

#

dunno what went wrong but it's fine now

#

probably my controller's fault

glossy wharf Apr 25, 2018, 6:54 AM

#

I had that on desktop yesterday too

#

That i would just randomly run forward

#

And it didnt stop

elfin elbow Apr 25, 2018, 7:22 AM

#

Coldfront isn't showing up in the world list, is it down for updates or something?

covert chasm Apr 25, 2018, 7:28 AM

#

It is down for updates, yes. 😃

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:35 AM

#

@covert chasm hey my dude, what's this ?
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/4ff8b5d96eb531398a330c2452e227e4-png.jpg

#

someone posted that in Avatar channel, i didnt see anything about it

covert chasm Apr 25, 2018, 7:39 AM

#

It is an internal component that users cannot use-- ignore it for now 😃

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:43 AM

#

So we get a new camera and own home AND mirror as well? And the camera works like the one in avatar testing!!?? On nice so i have no reason to leave my home...just like irl except to work....And i have no reason to go to avatar testing to make new friends =D......I love this game <3!!

simple tinsel Apr 25, 2018, 7:43 AM

#

Well web panel input is broke...

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:44 AM

#

alright

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:44 AM

#

Where do I give my feedback for this garbage particle system update

steep pagoda Apr 25, 2018, 7:45 AM

#

Kizzy it's being looked at and tweaked just wait it and and give the devs time to adjust it lol

#

They have been bombarded today about it lol give em a bit of slack lol

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:46 AM

#

@true timber Here if you want to tell them that they are garbage, that the game is dead, etc etc
https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/particle-system-limiter-feedback

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:46 AM

#

Nah, I'll add my voice to the horde.

#

Because this is a pretty dumb change.

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:47 AM

#

Calm down and stop overreacting.

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:47 AM

#

in that case please upvote this

#

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/toggle-particle-systems

#

a necessary feature

steep pagoda Apr 25, 2018, 7:48 AM

#

It's just a bit overboard atm >.<
Needs tweaking
Tho the fox in general is needed just needs to be adjusted like between friends and stuff
So it's less harsh if your a friend or something

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:48 AM

#

Tupper himself literally said numbers are up for changes.

#

And you don't have a valid ground to complain about what the devs did anyways.

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:48 AM

#

making a toggle change is a much more efficient tool for both optimization issues and creativity purposes

#

limiting particles limits the community

#

toggling them makes both streamers and memers happy

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:49 AM

#

It's basically having a problem of 100 flies in a china house, and you use a sledgehammer and kill one fly but break a bunch of china in said house. Still killed at least one of the flies. Missed the 99 others. And also broke the china in said house. :v

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

yup

#

toggle those flies away

#

no harm done

#

set up a similar system to the safe mode

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

An idea I was considering was rather a maximum limit in the world itself

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

which already turns off particles

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

where once it hits said cap, new ones wouldn't be spawned

steep pagoda Apr 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

Yes but it's not that easy to implement toggles like that atm so it more likely would be easier to implement it to not deleate particals from friends lol

Just give them some feedback or mabye even the avatar I'd so they can do testing and give them some time to adjust and change things

stoic haven Apr 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

Why not have the limit in public worlds and no limit in friend and invite instances?

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

Also people don't seem to get it's not a finalized decision/numbers

#

it's always up for changes, as VR Chat always is in general

steep pagoda Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

^

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

that's why we need the polls to get upvoted

#

or get them some attention

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

and something people should be aware of is

#

vrchat isn't their own game, it's the devs'

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

You guys are suggesting idea's that are insane to code most of the time...
They could do it yes, but they can just as good set limits on other things, and raise them on others

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

the devs can change stuff however they want

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

Bitching here does not change anything at all

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

the time/money/effort you put into various fancy things in the game

#

is irrelevant

#

sure, it sucks to lose it

#

the devs still weren't in the wrong

steep pagoda Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

Lol they already have tons to work with and litteral avatars from users with particals from testing
Spamming a upvote Isint gonna help atm lol

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

sure, the solution they put in was still heavy handed

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

i'm not here to bitch about anything i just want to get the toggle-system some attention

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

and missed a lot of actual issues

#

:v

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

Oclac - bad cop
Me - good cop

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

Then throw it on the canny

uncut trail Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

Hype for my occulus rift :) 2 more days

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

and have peeps vote on it

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

The devs are aware of the actual issues, k thx

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

I suppose people just like to complain. It is pretty fun to do so every now and then tbh, but it never is productive.

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

problems won't get attention without anyone complaining

steep pagoda Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

Toggle system probably won't happen proforce
It's to much to implement right now and to hard

As said it will most likely be a system based on friend so the limiter won't affects friends

idle cipher Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

is it me or the update made everything laggy especially when looking at a crowd or a mirror

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

@gusty adder "stop overreacting" lol, seriously? Do you know how many people spend weeks upon weeks making awesome looking avatars with particles that are now completely useless?

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

People complain about the wrong things and without offering constructive feedback.

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

Luckily it seems most people hate this change and have given feedback.

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

Okay, good for you? So what?

#

Good for them too, so what?

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

they already have a toggle system through the safe mode function though

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

That's on them to spend all that time.

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

The restrictions sound harsh, but can't you combine them or something?

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

That's on them?

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

On a still new game that's always being changed.

#

That's their problem, not the devs'.

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

are you kidding me LOL

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

the people using the hacked clients have already made their own toggle system to escape those with crashing particles

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

They voluntarily chose to spend that time knowing the game could be changed at any time.

#

It's simple logic.

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

are you trolling right now or are you actually serious with this nonsense

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

???

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

#

15 hours of the same arguments now

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

If you go into someone else's sandbox and build a fancy 20 ft tall sculpture with your own time, effort, and money, good for you?

steep pagoda Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

A bigger issue atm is the performed drop in this update
Aswell as adjusting the partical limited and changing it for better
Lol so calm down and just wait it out it won't be like this forever wow guys >.<

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

You don't get to complain at the owner of the sandbox if they destroy it by putting a ceiling 8 feet above the sand to protect it from rain.

light osprey Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

the game is built around having a community, i don't see your logic here

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

My only problem with it is that they decide the limits. As in, I should be able to disable the restriction for myself if my computer can handle it.
Just like games have an "Ultra" setting

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

It's literally just a first step measure, @vocal shard

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

The cameras are like, almost exclusively the cause of performance issues atm

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

Tupper said numbers and whatnot are all up for discussion

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

@light osprey People got a lot further in chat last night here when they gave proper explanations, with good idea's and feedback and posted them on the canny then the animation community 'raiding' the discord screaming at staff

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

Alright, so lets say your account gets permanently banned for no reason tomorrow Lilirin

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

Like they cleared up misunderstanding while giving proper fixes then
Even people who never touched avatars understood why it was a problem then

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

Guess you're shit outta luck, you could have been banned at any time, your fault

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

Instead of saying "Fix X and do Y'

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

Okay so let's say the world randomly explodes tomorrow for no reason, Kizzy

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

Yeah, I know. And it's not a bad idea, I just think that players should be able to choose to display all particles. Others would be able to crash me, but I'm fine with the risks so why not let me?

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

Why is x shit and does not work
Why would Y work

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

let's not use meaningless random arguments that don't contribute

#

try again bud

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

The Pug was already poorly optimized but if even one person turns on a camera it’s like 30 fps

true timber Apr 25, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

Your argument is meaningless, in fact it's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in weeks. It's the animation community's fault for not predicting that the game devs would completely screw them over?

stoic haven Apr 25, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

To be honest, I think restrictions on public worlds should stay anyway to discourage abuse of those systems. No restrictions on friends and invite worlds make sense and the ability to toggle should be implemented anyway since even in friend/invite instances not everyone can handle it.

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

It's not your game. It's not the animator creators' game either. The devs can do whatever they want to do to their game, and it's fully in their right to do so, and they are not wrong for doing so. They are ESPECIALLY not wrong for doing so when literally the only thing they said regarding particles and particle systems is that it was allowed. Not how many, not limits, etc.

#

The devs can change around values and such whenever they want. Particles and particle systems still work just as before, but in a capped amount now.

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:58 AM

#

Cameras and mirrors in general lag it if they're not made properly

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:58 AM

#

If you don't like that, don't invest that much time into a continually changing and still developing game where they haven't given a concrete defined word they won't change certain things. Which they won't, because the game will still be continually developing and changing.

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 7:58 AM

#

Yeah, the new streamer cameras are having some issues

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:58 AM

#

jesus christ

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:59 AM

#

Even if you thinkthe devs have all the right to do it and the animators have no reason to be angry at them.

They still should have applied a better fix for problems then they have right now. Most of what they wanted has not been solved while the still highly optimized avatars and simple but good looking animations are borked

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:59 AM

#

the lack of common sense

#

I mean yeah that's something I acknowledged

#

it's a heavy handed fix that didn't fix most of the issues

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 7:59 AM

#

They also have the right to scrap the project, but it would still be wrong lol

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:59 AM

#

ie, trying to kill 100 flies in a china shop with a sledge hammer, killing 1, and breaking a good bit of china

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 7:59 AM

#

It also broke plenty of small non ages spend things

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 7:59 AM

#

1 fly still died

#

there's also still 99 left

#

and china also broke

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:00 AM

#

But then you also should agree they can be angry about it but should not just flat out yell and instead suggest fixes, make reports of what limits are reasonable and ect instead?

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 8:00 AM

#

If people want to be upset, be upset it's heavy handed and offer actual fixes, or how to not 'break the china' by offering better solutions that would specifically target certain issues.

#

Don't be upset that the devs put in a measure in the first place to try and counteract particle abuse in the first place that didn't go well.

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

My idea is just that, like videogames have an "ultra" graphics settings which basically means "bring it, I have the hardware", VRChat could have a setting so that you can see all other players particle effects if you're okay with the risks

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

Yeah, that could work. Basically a client side cap to the world you're in where it caps out particles/other such particle related effect properties at a certain number.

#

IE, if you're at the lowest setting and there'd be more than X amount, any past X don't show/spawn for you altogether or such.

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

I am far from sure myself about what im about to say but
That kind of sounds like something that would take months to develop

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

Yeah, that's also the issue.

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

@ supposed

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

Development takes time and effort and money and human labor and resources :v

#

Saying stuff is a lot easier than actually coding it in

#

when coding it in will also usually introduce ~10-30 new bugs

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

True, but this one shouldn't be very difficult to program

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

It would be the best fix
Even for worlds and ect to have settings for most of these things

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

Of course, it depends on how it's made

full tiger Apr 25, 2018, 8:03 AM

#

https://youtu.be/JWFc75LIMbM anyone know this world name by any chance?

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:03 AM

#

The trick is getting Unity to play nice with ideas

worthy swan Apr 25, 2018, 8:03 AM

#

So is there gonna be optimization done on the game?

#

This update realyl has put a huge damper on FPS

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 8:03 AM

#

getting Unity to play nice in general

#

:v

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:03 AM

#

Also
Keep in mind, the game is FAR from finished

#

Its in pretty early bate

#

beta*

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:04 AM

#

I don't think the current limit is done in Unity? Otherwise it would only apply to new avatars and not current ones

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:04 AM

#

I imagine they’ll fix whatever is causing the performance issues that were introduced with the patch

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:04 AM

#

Yeah

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:04 AM

#

But I wouldn’t expect much more optimization this early in development

worthy swan Apr 25, 2018, 8:04 AM

#

Few buddies of mine are unable to play and I am even restricted to certain rooms now with streaming

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 8:05 AM

#

the camera function is lagging people a ton apparently

#

from what I've heard so far

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:05 AM

#

I believe most of the FPS issues are related to cameras

gusty adder Apr 25, 2018, 8:05 AM

#

esp. with multiple cameras out

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

@worthy swan did they try the things in #vrchat-support

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

Well, active cameras mean that much more is rendered. Is it really a bug?

#

wtf

#

i formatted my computer

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

Wat

#

why would you

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

nowit says i cant upload my avatars because i havent had enouhg play time

#

because

#

i upgraded my computer

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:07 AM

#

I would say probably a bug because it should only be giving a performance hit to the people using cameras

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:07 AM

#

Playtime is stored locally now?

#

it always was

#

Join a private world and minimize the game for a good 10 hours I guess. Or edit the playtime file, wherever it is

cyan pond Apr 25, 2018, 8:07 AM

#

anyone here seen infinity war?

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:07 AM

#

if i understand what u mean

#

ihave 120+ hours

#

wtffff

#

I never knew about the avatar uploading limit

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 8:09 AM

#

That seems to be new. I've heard of atleast one other user had issues with their playtime not being recognized. Do email "support@vrchat.com" and let them know what's up

#

Like they had 400~ hours played, or so they claimed, and that definitely should be enough. So obviously in some cases it doesn't work properly

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

what's the playtime requirement

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

Personally I have no clue to be honest

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

i uploaded my avatars the other day

#

It sounds like it's clientsided when it shouldn't be

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

🤷

#

But unless you have a fresh account and you've clearly been around for a while, email "support@vrchat.com" and tell them about the issue and give as much info you can

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:12 AM

#

ok

soft rivet Apr 25, 2018, 8:12 AM

#

how do you access the pictures taken with the camera?

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:12 AM

#

By the way, I hear CM3D map is broken now.

#

That is upsetting.

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 8:13 AM

#

In your default windows pictures folder

#

Inside the "VRchat" folder

soft rivet Apr 25, 2018, 8:13 AM

#

thanks

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:13 AM

#

I liked stress testing while watching my avi dance.

#

xD

#

Can we get a .ini file for screenshot locations?

#

I'm low on space on my C drive, so I'd like my screenshots on my secondary.
Steam does the same thing, btw. When I save a VRChat screenshot, I get two (one in c/users/pictures/vrchat, and one for Steam, but I forgot the path. Some "sync/cloud" shit)

jolly totem Apr 25, 2018, 8:24 AM

#

wait, is the camera really causing fps drops?

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

i doubt it's the only thing

#

but it definitely does cause fps drops when multiple are out in a world

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

That's what cameras do, render stuff. But it shouldn't cause lag unless it's in use

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

i feel like it shouldn't be causing anyone except the person with the camera out lag too

#

like if 3 people have their cameras out and i don't, it doesn't seem like i should get a performance hit

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:27 AM

#

True too. Aren't they clientsided? Does it really affect everyone?

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:27 AM

#

seems to

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 8:27 AM

#

Everything is client side beside some part of the camera

#

No idea what part was not again but eh

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:28 AM

#

If it does affect everyone, it will get fixed soon

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:29 AM

#

the only part that actually shows for other people is the lens

#

but i definitely notice a framerate hit when multiple people are using cameras

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:31 AM

#

That's interesting. It will definitely be fixed though

#

"we don't want to allow global cameras because they lag people"

Create local camera that can still lag people.

#

But the important question is, can I use it for upskirts?

#

yes

#

I currently have no complaints

#

first thing i tested 👌

#

You're a man of culture

#

woo can i use it for upskirts lmao

#

everyone used the camras in the werewolf game lol

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:39 AM

#

here's my issue with the cameras

#

why can't i grab it and move it by the selfie stick attachment?

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:40 AM

#

because they are still working on it

#

KNOWN ISSUES

Buttons on the camera can be difficult to select (hold the camera while you select buttons)
Camera extender is difficult to grab (point your hand towards the camera to grab more easily)
Nameplates above cameras are not toggleable
If you have a camera held in your hand and disable the camera, it will prevent you from grabbing things with that hand. Disable the camera while it is not being held.
If you have your "Mic Defaults On" setting unchecked, your microphone will be muted when you enter a new world

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:40 AM

#

oh, you can actually grab it. lol

#

i thought it just didn't have a spot to grab

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 8:40 AM

#

Lmoa

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:40 AM

#

those buttons though

#

oh my god they're hard to hit

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:41 AM

#

ikr xD

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 8:41 AM

#

Not as bad for me, not perfect, but manageable.

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 8:42 AM

#

i really like the easy selfies though

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 8:42 AM

#

I just got to take more screenshots on top of my already 589 screenshots already taken

plain oracle Apr 25, 2018, 9:04 AM

#

More and more limitations being put on avatars. This sure is fun

slate shuttle Apr 25, 2018, 9:05 AM

#

Wait

#

Since when did vrchat have discord rich presence?

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:06 AM

#

It does?

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 9:06 AM

#

I have over 4k screenshots

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:06 AM

#

I don't see it

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:08 AM

#

Sup zarni

#

I see you got an art drawn of your custom avatar

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:10 AM

#

Hell yeah

#

Out of nowhere too

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 9:11 AM

#

Famous boy zarni

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:12 AM

#

Suprise fanart is pretty sweet, not gonna lie

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:12 AM

#

Lucky you

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 9:13 AM

#

Ghost get someone to draw fanart for you GWoooKarenSugoi

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:13 AM

#

No one is gonna do it for free these days unless Im famous

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 9:14 AM

#

Well zarni aint super famous

#

So

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:14 AM

#

He's a mod tho

#

Or hes in a good relationship with a friend who draws.

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 9:14 AM

#

Boy we should start streaming more

#

Or well i should start and you need to do it more 👌

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:15 AM

#

Do it today?

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 9:15 AM

#

I first have to set things up then xD
and big odds i will never stream VRC

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:15 AM

#

Hardware issue?

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 9:15 AM

#

Kinda but also dont want to

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:16 AM

#

I could use ovrdrop for both of our chats :lul:

#

That would be funny

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 9:17 AM

#

Watching a stream in Vr that is watching a chat of another stream while in Vr that is playing a game in VR

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:17 AM

#

unity_chan_dab

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:18 AM

#

I am friends with a lot of talented artists, but man, never expected this

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:23 AM

#

Maybe you could introduce me to them, ya know what I mean ;)

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:26 AM

#

Her VRchat name is Lhannan, that's all I'll say. She also made "Fish Person's Cove" in VRchat, check her shit out.

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:27 AM

#

Shit? 🤔

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:28 AM

#

Only the best shit 👀 👀 💯 👌 👌 👌

#

In all seriousness, she does make wonderful stuff. She made all the assets in her world herself

#

Got huge respect for that

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:32 AM

#

I assume she is a well known person then. Which means a rather big circle of freinds which then means I wont be able to aproach her.

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:33 AM

#

So, I have a plan. I'm going to try and put a Soldier 76 facemask and jacket on an Ooka base model.

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:36 AM

#

I don't see why you couldn't?

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:36 AM

#

well, personal skill is going to be the main limiting factor. lmao

#

the mask is easy, i've already separated a face mask from soldier for my current model

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:37 AM

#

I meant what Ghosto said

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:37 AM

#

i'm unsure of my own skill when it comes from separating clothes from meshe- oh

#

that makes more sense haha

mighty galleon Apr 25, 2018, 9:37 AM

#

<.<

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:37 AM

#

But you go for it, with your model too!

#

Modelhacking is fun

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:38 AM

#

i was happy with the results of separating the mask from the main model

#

probably the trickiest thing i've done so far

mighty galleon Apr 25, 2018, 9:38 AM

#

<.<

#

-pats-

#

better then ive ever done

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:39 AM

#

It's nice, I wanted to be able to do like people do with their helmets where they can remove them with a gesture and they appear in hand

#

took a solid few hours

mighty galleon Apr 25, 2018, 9:39 AM

#

oh

#

isnt that where you always have a helmet in one hand at all time but its invisible, but when you press a gesture it appears and the other one dissapere?

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:40 AM

#

yeah

#

the issue was that with the original model, the mask was part of the same mesh as the rest of the body

#

so i had to go through and make sure i selected each vertice to split it out

#

... vertex*

#

actually, i think adding a blink viseme to the other eye of the model was harder than that tbh

#

because selecting all of the eyelid + eyelash vertices without grabbing the eye beneath was a nightmare

mighty galleon Apr 25, 2018, 9:43 AM

#

i bet

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:45 AM

#

Well I'm not good when it comes to big groups of people

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:45 AM

#

https://i.imgur.com/d9gc3br.png
Here's a tip if you want to seperate meshes. Click on "face select" so you're viewing the faces, mouse over the part you want to seperate and hit L. Then on the far left side you can click on normal, material, seam... to finetune your selection

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:45 AM

#

And especially if I tried to get someones attention, in a big group, i wouldve miserably failed

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:45 AM

#

i'm weird in that regard -- i'm super okay going into a packed public space, but i have too much anxiety to join friends in a Friends+ world because I won't know anyone else there and feel awkward

analog patrol Apr 25, 2018, 9:45 AM

#

just select your polys, hit space, type seperate, press enter, done

#

to seperate a mesh

mighty galleon Apr 25, 2018, 9:46 AM

#

im fine going anywhere

#

and also fine being completly alone

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:46 AM

#

hmm, this face selection might have helped. the main issue was getting the eyelids and eyelash without accidentally getting the eyeball too

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:47 AM

#

you can also select bunch of faces and press H to hide them temporarily

#

ALT+H unhides

#

In case they're in the way

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:47 AM

#

but i also don't understand how to do blender very well, clearly, because sometimes i have issues selecting vertices. like i have to angle the camera just right to grab some of them.

#

i dunno if that's just an issue with my selection mode or what

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:48 AM

#

Sometimes you might have to select a face/vertex where you are working and press the dot on your keypad to focus in on that area

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:48 AM

#

man, i should look into blender shortcuts

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:49 AM

#

You should find a good infograph to consult

#

Because shortcuts is a must in blender

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:49 AM

#

yeah definitely. i barely know what i'm doing with blender

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:50 AM

#

It took me about 2-3 weeks playing around in blender until I got comfortable enough to say I've learned most of the basics

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:51 AM

#

yeah, my current methodology is to watch a few tutorial videos, then mess around in it

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 9:51 AM

#

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFt_AvWsXl0fEx02iXR8uhDsVGhmM9Pse
The first 3 videos helped me out a lot when I started out

#

You get to see the shortcuts he uses in the video too

#

You get to learn some basics on how to operate blender too, like camera controls and such

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:52 AM

#

Man I havent done anything apart from decimation, eye tracking and visemes in blender. Me be so bad

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:53 AM

#

hey, that just means you haven't needed to do it

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:55 AM

#

Im happy enough with my avatar so far

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:55 AM

#

i'm incredibly happy with mine

plain oracle Apr 25, 2018, 9:57 AM

#

Good to see the bug where I get kicked out of servers is still a thing.

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 9:58 AM

#

I just added a sword and a mask in unity. Idk what to even do in blender

plain oracle Apr 25, 2018, 9:58 AM

#

And a brand new bug.

#

I'm... a strobe light or something. What is causing this I wonder

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:58 AM

#

yeah, I added my ears and tail in Unity

plain oracle Apr 25, 2018, 9:58 AM

#

https://gyazo.com/e027444c8dfcfda1c51fc2911a4bbf69

#

What could even cause this

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 9:58 AM

#

I'd like to go back and add it in Blender instead, to save on performance

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 10:00 AM

#

What shaders are you using, Brandon?

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 10:02 AM

#

No.

#

Like most of the other "people can do this and that to your account/computer," it isn't real.

plain oracle Apr 25, 2018, 10:03 AM

#

cubed paradox

#

Also

#

https://gyazo.com/0db3254dfa2e6fa6846e6dcdc9460d1c

#

This, too. What in the world

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 10:03 AM

#

of course it's true, they can get anything they want.
they can even download your RAM and take your GPU for themselves. /s

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 10:03 AM

#

some other people were having issues with cubed shaders earlier too

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 10:04 AM

#

yes

#

just some dumb people starting to spread rumors to make everyone panic

#

especially streamers

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 10:04 AM

#

^

earnest harbor Apr 25, 2018, 10:04 AM

#

mostly because some streamers used bad passwords and their avatars got deleted

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 10:05 AM

#

Slam your head on your keyboard to have a secure password.

earnest harbor Apr 25, 2018, 10:05 AM

#

pro tip abc123 shouldn't be your password for anything >.>

lilac swan Apr 25, 2018, 10:06 AM

#

Pfft. Holding down Q until the password box doesn't accept more input is the way to go. I did this for Runescape as a kid

earnest harbor Apr 25, 2018, 10:07 AM

#

random question btu anyone else getting stuck at "Processing Upload" when uploading an avatar?

#

I am using the new sdk..

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 10:08 AM

#

@earnest harbor detaching your blueprint works, if you don't mind losing your avatar's screenshot

#

i mean you could redo the screenshot, but if it's a complex one

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 10:09 AM

#

Take a screenshot of the screenshot, make that a material of a plane, take a screenshot of that screenshot.

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 10:09 AM

#

that's... really smart, actually

earnest harbor Apr 25, 2018, 10:09 AM

#

bah

alpine cove Apr 25, 2018, 10:10 AM

#

but yeah, detaching my blueprint let me upload very quickly

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 10:13 AM

#

:thinking:

plain oracle Apr 25, 2018, 10:34 AM

#

I have 5 emitters on an avatar, now only one works.

#

I'm guessing that limitation was to limit it to one emitter...

dawn plinth Apr 25, 2018, 10:38 AM

#

If it was per emitter, people could just bypass it by making like 50 emitters

#

Unless they made a limit of emitters too.

rare cliff Apr 25, 2018, 10:59 AM

#

Where are the photos that the camera takes stored at?

dull oar Apr 25, 2018, 10:59 AM

#

In your pictures folder under VRChat

rare cliff Apr 25, 2018, 11:00 AM

#

Awesome thank you.

shell sage Apr 25, 2018, 11:06 AM

#

Did they update again?

#

I rememeber reading that they limited the emitters to 10

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 11:07 AM

#

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-particle-system-limits

shell sage Apr 25, 2018, 11:07 AM

#

Yesterday after the update i tried my avatars and the emitters were working, but after a few seconds they ran out of juice and were spitting only one particle from time to time

vocal shard Apr 25, 2018, 11:12 AM

#

Hiya

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 11:37 AM

#

@vocal shard hallo

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 11:52 AM

#

My friend spent a week on making a really cool energy sword and it does not activate anymore even though he edited it following this guideline. So many of my friends are just straight leaving because they feel like the devs "saying they fixed particles" are more like spitting in their faces for all the hours of hard work they put into making really cool stuff.

plain oracle Apr 25, 2018, 11:53 AM

#

What kind of energy sword?

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 11:55 AM

#

It was a really cool plasma sword that emulated the same effects as Kylo Ren's saber. It did not use any solid objects as a base. He would activate emitters that would come out of the hilt to form the sword.

#

Like a mix between Zero's Z Saber and Kylo Ren's saber.

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 11:55 AM

#

And you think complaining here fixes it?...

#

There is a canny going
Give proper feedback there and provide what limits they have to fix

#

That gets everyone a lot further
Get the dev info on the place they want
You guys can help the dev and solve this

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 11:57 AM

#

No but its cool that you feel the need to act like a prick assuming that was my intention. Plenty of people are aggravated that their weeks and hours of hard work being broken by something being toted as a "fix".

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 11:58 AM

#

Honest to fucking god the animation community is toxic towards everyone because of this

#

Be happy that i take my time to explain how you guys can help fix this problem

#

But nah, just call me a prick for pointing obvious things out and giving a way to actually get things done

leaden kiln Apr 25, 2018, 11:59 AM

#

@umbral reef They don't listen

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 11:59 AM

#

Nah but you can at least not be rude and be civil in a discussion the first thing you said was not even a thing that was needed.
At any rate I am looking to gather everyone who has been effected negatively to create some form of feedback.

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 12:00 PM

#

I dont want to discus this ebcause im on your fucking side dude
I give you a way to fix it as that is what you want

#

And that is the fucking canny

#

That is legit the point of the canny website, the reason devs look on there and why i pointed you towards it

leaden kiln Apr 25, 2018, 12:00 PM

#

no, that is literally them implenting the fixes that were handed to them

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 12:00 PM

#

Its the place everyone votes to get X thing added or Y thing changed

#

So like the animation limits

sudden palm Apr 25, 2018, 12:01 PM

#

I linked them the canny page

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 12:02 PM

#

Danke. That was not a thing I knew existed.

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 12:03 PM

#

Next time if some suggest something even if its in an aggressive flat out way and you dont understand what they are suggesting.
Ask for details first

inner cape Apr 25, 2018, 12:06 PM

#

@umbral reef ive been away for 10 mins and here we go again...

stiff pivot Apr 25, 2018, 12:06 PM

#

Im sorry, I was up until about 4 am trying to get things to work. I am agitated and got no sleep.

#

I am very passionate about the work, and its just effected me a lot and I have a lot of misdirected stress for the hours I put into things. It has not been easy coping with it.

karmic bear Apr 25, 2018, 12:09 PM

#

I am torn on the particle limits

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 12:09 PM

#

Its fine
Honestly you still saying thanks and ect makes it more then fine GWoooKarenSugoi

#

The idea was good, the way they did it bad

karmic bear Apr 25, 2018, 12:10 PM

#

Like I appreciate that it has messed up the creations of some very creative people

umbral reef Apr 25, 2018, 12:10 PM

#

Borked to much stuff and fixed almost nothing

karmic bear Apr 25, 2018, 12:11 PM

#

but for every creator that has been hamstrung it must have stopped 10 spod faced idiots from making another anime that shits out a torrent of 👌's that all play gucci gang at max volume.

#

There's got to be a solution that ticks both boxes

timber junco Apr 25, 2018, 12:11 PM

#

It doesn't even stop the 👌