#vrchat-general-2
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Well I didn't, but I do now!
VRchat has existed for several years already, I don't see it going away in a flash anytime soon
I miss when it wasn't so popular tbh
I really need to hop in more
I find myself in discord more than the actual game, it's just easier
When the pug at most filled up almost one instance? Those were good times, everyone basically knew everybody
It wont die untill I find someone to claim. and trust me, with my luck i wont find anyone
Yeah
That's what I always say zarniwoop
It was hella easy to find your friends
I don't knoe, it was so... Different these days
Growing from a small to large community has its advantages and disadvantages
Yeah, pretty much
I definitely prefer a large community, there's something awesome about popping in a new instance and not knowing anyone
But I still wish to be able to do as I did on those times
coldfront's pretty fun
I wish I could find a waifu to claim
barebones but welcome new shooty mode :d
Youre a husbando
I hate you
I got to test it briefly before, need to play around with the current version

tbh I want better headsets
I found it through a porta from some random world
Grenade launcher and shotgun is my favourite combo
Something that's nice and light, with good ventilation, and lenses that aren't trash
I just want to feel warmth in the game
2 shot kill with fastest bullet travel o baby
I got like one, maybe two kills from a large distance with the sniper
I sweat like im working out sometimes so i can feel the warmth in vr
yeah my headset gets uncomfortably hot
i only ever sweat in just dance hehe
Feels bad man, got the sweating palms problem
Sam3
Lmoa
Im not sweaty
Grow up
I'm cold
:^)
π€
Yes my queen
I didnt say youre not allowed to continue your conversations.
In fact, it's a really good practice to engage in thoughtful dialogues without my initiative.
Because trying to keep so many chats alive all the time is quite tiresome and it would be good if atleast some of my friends were a bit more active.
@inner cape do you need a hug?
It's no use. I need much more than that.
Is there anyone I can get into contact with over an unusual 7 day "inappropriate avatar" account ban?
Your avatar was most likely actually inappropriate. Tell me, what's so unusual about your ban?
VRChat Developer Update be like
SOON(TM)
π

I have no avatars that world be classified as "inappropriate" that I carry around in public worlds, which is why it is an unusual ban
maybe someone in your friend group reported your one you dont use in public rooms
Some say "friends plus" arent safe enough.
Friends+ isn't safe
To be honest, everyone in my discord is saying that it is probably because 2 days ago I stopped a raid into a world I was in, and the raiders had ended up being Drekwiz and Woops, while they were streaming to hundreds of people
lolrip
That might as well be the reason.
Ugh
I suggest you only use these avatars in private worlds with a small group of friends.
sigh
I just need to contact a mod that actually has the reason, so I can make sure that it was that avatar that they deemed "inappropriate"
have you tried support
yknow
like you'd normally do in a situation where you need help
excuse me, i meant moderation@vrchat.com
Tupper needs to make a video addressing security issues
Instead of getting other nonimportant stuff added
Security issues should be #1
Iuno wtf hes doing over there
In their own world
Not even 1% of his video addresses security π
because security isn't an easy fix, and the more you publically talk about security the less secure it becomes
People abusing collisions to throw people off maps. Spawning crash bombs. Stealing avatars. And tupper just looks the other way
you're delusional if you think the team doesn't know about the issues and isn't working on ways to fix it
it'll take however long it takes
security isn't just an overnight fix in any situation
Nah, they just need to hit the "fix it" button. π
I have to submit logs through a google document why is there no ingame button that sends it for me?
what good would an in-game button be when someone crashes you out of the game in the first place?
When the game geta crashed there should be a button that you can press to send
and there's not much of a point in dedicating development time to a band-aid fix if actual fixes are in progress and coming down the pipeline, when there's already a functional solution
an upload button would upload the entire log, meaning people checking the reports would potentially have to sift through an hours-long log to find a single report reason, taking time away from actually acting on the reports
Its been in progress for years
League of legends is a free to play game
league of legends has a monetization system, that's the shoddiest comparison
Fortnight is freetoplay
Why not
because then you'd be in here complaining that they were working on the cash shop instead of security issues
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
i recommend developing your own game and getting a feel for how difficult security issues are to lock down
then you might understand why it's not just an overnight fix
League of Legends also has 2.5k employees. VRchat has... well...
20, i believe tupper said
Put a cash shop so you can gift stuff to people
Sounds about right
Hello
and i'm not sure if he meant 20 including community facing side, or 20 developers
Inventory system
20 employees in total, not devs
all of the things you're saying right now would take time away from the security issues
mouse sensitivity when
It is
ffs
oof just heard people are selling my avatars to get money
What the fuck?
what a sad life
Just brand the avatars then
they are
doing 180s on 200dpi isn't acceptable m8
they dont care
How did they get them?
lol
fortnite of course because they have a mouse sensitivity slider
macaroni and cheese versus parachuting, who wins?
Holy fuck Mei
That's a lot of times
yeah, but i can change mouse sensitivity in fortnite
there are more but those are the only times they stole my stuff and somone did a screenshot
the only lobby I was in is the very first the others are just friends reporting
I get sketchy dm's of people telling me they bought my avatar ID n shit
meanwhile my HDD broke and I dont even have the files anymore
So if you have bought a HTC VR recently anyway I can get the pro and turn in the old headset to be cheaper?
afaik yeah
How much do I save?
So they wonβt let you return the headset for cheaper price
no thats why ppl are selling it themselves
Thatβs poopie who would oh wait that means the market for it would be cheaper for the non VR users
Yeah but you would have to buy the controllers and base separate so would that be cheaper then the bundle
Thatβs poopie on how they handled it
Just stay with the vive
get htc'd xd
@lilac swan make sure the VRC team knows lots of us appreciate the work they're doing <3
last night i tried on a knuckles avatar and gone on a knuckles raid with them. it was a HORRIBLE experience
Why did you do it
sometimes you get caught in the tide
jk 
And you gotta play it cool
So what's the newest announcement talking for
Or just leave
a single controler is 130 from five? o_O
where is the valve knuckles? BabyRage
last night i tried on a knuckles avatar and gone on a knuckles raid with them. it was a HORRIBLE experience
that's not the same knuckles π€
Get blocked by some knuckles haters
No...

You have to do it
what sorta essay?
#feedback I saw the developer update and it is great that VRC team is making an effort to communicate with its userbase, but I was sad there was no mention of security updates regarding hackers who steal avatars. I have a few unique avatars which have been put countless hours of work into and the thought of some bozo just coming along and yanking it just because "they can" makes me vommit, I want to return to VRC and be around more but when people can STEAL someones work or commissions without any consequences. Public lobbies are the fun place to be but personally I feel the experience got ruined when the hackers popped up.
othello
π€
how many words?
Glhf and remember, don't procrastinate

procrastination is the only way to greatness
^
or something like that
That won't work on me
cheat the system
woah
if you procrastinate all your life you never work a day
π
Become the glitch in the matrix
damn son
Good luck
poor someone
That someone is gonna get paid though
1 big mac is my offer
Good enough

Better than no big mac
So how would the htc company for the members who just bought it
Some people have all the luck
Getting the pro
Like a discount for when you turn in your old headset should be in the deal
pro isnt even worth it from what i've seen
only thing that's different is the head strap
and it doesnt even come with controllers
And I think slightly higher res
They say itβs better res
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Knuckles controllers for the knuckles avatar
Ehh, I really dislike the lack of thumbstick
Thats what I love about the touch controllers
I want a joy stick VR
Vive never had a thimbstick to begin with ripperoni
wand DansGame
it looks like it'd be just as versatile as an N64 controller LOL
u wot
3 hands OP
it's far more versatile than the current stuff from what I've seen
and you can use em to punch ppl * _ *
rude
anybody having issues where they can walk through walls and eveywhere is lagging
idk are they
Here's an odd thing that's been popping up since yesterday and the day before; My new avatars have been confusing VR players for some reason; In particular, Oculus users, and they seem to be seeing double of my avatar for some reason? like one eye makes my avatar follow their camera and the other is normal. I don't know what's going on...
I feel super bad about it too :c
Maybe the eye tracking was set incorrectly on the avatar
No, I have eye-tracking set properly
I thought it was an oculus bug; 3 people have pointed out the problem to me, but I think it may also be on my side. I don't know what's going on.
Did you try using desktop mode
I am using Desktop mode, that's the thing!
I mean OTHER PLAYERS are having this problem
I can see my avatar just fine, but other people are seeing my avatar weird
did anything look weird in avatar testing? mirror or camera?
Everything from cats to the SDK plugin is updated; and no, nothing looked weird at all
Did you try with any other avatars
I want to think it's just a bug on Oculus's part but it's only happening to me in the perspective of others and no one else
I might have to ask some people if they can take a screenshot and send it in bug reports or something
Cubed's toon shaders
huh π€
Just the regular shaders. It's really weird
π€
I wish I knew how this is working because honestly I would've fixed it by now if that were the case
People with their huge models and specials effects lags the game for me
huge models aren't any different than a normal size one
So it just the effects
@stable raptor
@has anyone imported a Second life avatar in to vrchat?
@covert chasm I wanted to ask you a question about whether or not you guys would be willing to work on a Do Not Disturb mode so in public lobbies i dont have a bunch of friends joining off of me.
It's been requested a few times! I think there's a Canny post somewhere.
@digital tree avatars if propably the better channel for it but i if im not wrong there are rigging differences
@covert chasm do you think it'll become a thing? it's sort of stressful lol.
Maybe! Don't know. Here's a Canny post about it. https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/add-a-stealth-mode-to-allow-people-to-appear-offline
who else cant see avatar world called jinx's avatar world
@vocal shard they might be updating it!
should i get a kanna avatar?
@vocal shard i can send you a link to a download for one if you want π
@covert chasm Thank ya much! I'll spread word to some others for votes π
i dont know how to use unity so i uninstalled unity @vale crown
@vocal shard i'm pretty sure theres some on VRC, lemme look for ya
k
if you need help feel free to message me
yes
Shit i hope it didn't damage my folder
it doesnt
Jeez that guy was an asshole
@vocal shard I was just updating it, however had a small issue that was sending back to hub. I did fix the issue, but they were so fast making them public, so it might be down for 24 hours depending. You should be able to enter with this link though https://www.vrchat.net/launch?worldId=wrld_c6c3afea-6956-493b-9a7c-76b79c70619c&ref=vrchat.com
how does one request an account name change?
Please first check to see if you are using a Steam account. You will know this as your account will have a combo of letters and numbers after your name.
If you are using a Steam account, please signup for an account at https://www.vrchat.com/ with the new desired name.
If you already have a VRChat account, please email support@vrchat.com. Make sure you are emailing from the same email you used to create the account and mention this in the email. Also put your original name and the desired name you wish to change to.```
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So now we have CTF/Steel And Gold + Miner and now ColdFront ?
tfw u cant play those in public lobbies
Wait for real?
or else le keyboard invisible bois

Time to play as Nanachi
Full body tracking question: I want to buy just one tracker for my hip so that the game will know when in bending, leaning, or only turning my head. Will it work with just one tracker?
Yep
Earlier versions needed two trackers for hip because of a bug but thankfully not anymore
for complicated reasons i cant ge the leg ones and everyone tells me that i need a full set of 3 trackers if i want the hips. I JUST want to buy one for the hips, so i needed to verify it would work.
Well you need one for the hips, one for right leg and one for left leg
i only want a hip tracker
i cant do legs
but i need to know if it will work with just the one tracker
I did a little research and it will not work with just one tracker, you need three
Most people are inactive here so you got lucky lol
I imagine it would look odd
i just want to be able to turn my head without my body following.
i already put in the feature requests for them to turn down the sensitivity of that, so players can turn their heads at a wider angle before the body follows, but they threw my request into the wrong category.
guess i could try again
hmmm. a little bit concerned after watching the developer update. he wasn't talking about the hackers and lack of anti cheat. just an easier way to turn on safemode. but these ppl are unaffected by safemode

werewolf games are impossible atm (for me atleast)
every third or so has a hacker

mmyea
would be weird for the public actually to talk about this
but the coldfront release is poggers

yea
that's what i meant
they can just run around freely, can't block, mute or kick them
i reported one about 5 days ago because i met him outside of his invisiblity but he's still there
does anybody know who started the custom avatar meme?
The what.
How is that a meme
That is just people wanting to do something that was allowed
is there a certain version of unity u wanna get or just any unity works for uploading models in VR chat
There is only one version that will work
the 5.6.3 p1 thing?
dis meem
sooo some how for me my downloader keeps telling me that the internet is lost
when i am clearly on it
What does it exactly say?
internet connection lost, please re-connect and click retry
From the official website?
If so can try swapping the ip4v or ip6v and if that fails its prob the website
give me a sec some how my computer is just not working right anymore
could i do a share screen with u so u can see what i mean?
Im at my internship so no
hope u have fun
I'll take it as a no that nobody knows who made the custom avatar meme
Can't say I know the name of the guy who made it a meme but I remember it was someone who was asking "how to make custom avatar" with a weird accent.
anyone else having issues uploading?
"Custom avatar" is a meme?
I though it was just poking fun at newbies, and then made popular by the guy who does great custom avatars which all say "Custom avatar" somewhere on them. He has an avatar which is literally a guy in a giant blender.
10/10
@strange wagon weβre working on ALL of security and safety ongoing so donβt be concerned
@viral stratus not avoiding or not sure. Know whatβs up.
Are empty names really possible? Are they spoofing/forging names?
I thought it was just people using unicodes or spaces in their names, but that shouldn't make it impossible to block them or anything
By the way, thank you for taking the time to validating that you're working on security
For sure. Canβt always answer or explain. We see all that everyone else does and more you probably donβt. Safety and security is important and will be an ongoing effort.
There are areas where fixing things seem near possible (For example, textures that crash people)
And other areas where I'd argue that VRChat could use a little work (API key included on the website, worlds giving the asset URL to everyone, etc)
I can see it slowly improving though
maybe a setting that autoblocks people on extreme load or something? Idk.
They can profile avatars pretty easily, but if a texture is crashing you with a bug, there isn't really a way to stop it. Unless the game validates the texture before loading it (Like how unity shaders turn pink if you make a mistake when coding them)
hmmm okay
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tasks.png This should explain it
has anyone run into avatars that you can't mute, block, or even see?
If it happens throw your output log with a time you think he joined (and when you noticed him for sure.. That way they are not seeking for a neelde in a haystack) towards moderation@vrchat.com
When he joins in, it should write his name in your output-log, even if it's empty
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
To get it btw π
Wont work if you restarted the game since then as the output log gets overwriten ever boot
thanks
Is anyone down to play Werewolf? Message me if so
Hey, just a quick curious question. What should you do if there's multiple scripter's in a lobby you can't select/see their names?
@strange sable leave and run
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just go into social and block people with empty pictures
They're teenagers who lack power in their life, and the competence to hack anything, so they go onto old cheat forums to download somebody else's scripts
A script kiddie, as some would call them.
Is there any other high quality avatar worlds? :S
Apparently they scripted themselves out of the social menu, and i can confirm it cause i blocked every avatar and they could still talk to me
They're likely abusing some Admin feature, or changing their name to something which the social menu fails to load
you cant select them in the handheld menu, but you can see their orb floating
one of em just tried adding me named "test444" Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I am glad to see the new avatar protection system working a lot better though
test444 has a visible avatar
they stole a few avatars before resorting into their current avatars
it is visible in the add friend social menu, but not ingame
Good thing about invisible avatars though... They're easy to render!
He stole some avatar called "Ghost"
avatar protection system?
Yeah, it's something new you apply in cats
So when they steal your avatar, all they get is something that looks like a huge lag bomb
it's at 0.7.2 now I think
yolo
I mean, how many of those do you really use though? Probably not a whole lot
variety
and sometimes used to communicate with people
or in general trying to make people guess what X is Y
I would just take a day when things seem slow and then use that time to update em
communicating people without a mic is
a hell of an experience
often resorting to nods or emojis
and emotes
can agree
You need to configure it right. It's a pain, but there should be Youtube tuts
getting a mic isnt easy around here
make one
I'm not tech savvy
I'm not like the Radioman from Spec Ops the Line who can make a functioning radio out of jury rigging spare scrap parts
There's probably tutorials on it online if you have a lot of free time. But just buy it online? You can get anything shipped to you cheap at a reasonable speed
I don't have that money
thank you very much
@shy nest just a shame most of the game's story is pure wank
Radioman made me entertained until his "dropped the bridge on him" death
I have a strange question that someone might be able to answer.
I've been seeing what I think is a catgirl model running around in VRC. It's wearing cat keyhole lingerie, and I'm wondering if anyone knows the source material for the character
do u have a pic
no, unfortunately. that's actually why i was checking for the source, a friend wants to see the character haha
I'm assuming for scientific reasons, correct?
Well, I dunno why they want it. I was just telling them about the model and they asked what it looked like. I'm not one to pry, y'know?
( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
Cat lingerine? I found that on DA with a search recently
Actually, in #vrchat-instagram, a short scroll up, Dieu posted a few pics of the character, but in a different outfit
oh i don't want the model, i just want a picture of the character to show my friend
I'm in class so I can't treally find it atm.
ok, i found it, good news
and it's probably good that i found it because it's an OC
https://kirakotova.deviantart.com/art/TDA-OC-Kitonura-Seiki-D-O-W-N-L-O-A-D-S-625774233 if anyone else wants to do the research. for science.
Whats that?
Wowe
reeee
Hello darkness my ol' friend... my friends list is shrinking. Less and less people are logging in daily.
Dreamy December Days amirite?
any suggested website for getting more custom avatars?
Devianart and that japanese site I cant remember but I do have the link on my pc
I cant get rid of the ping in announcements from yesterday reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Yeah i was about to say on pc its fine but phone nope
Same with muted channels
I muted the channels I dont go to and it actually says "muted" but they still give me notifications when im on my phone
That doesnt help oclac
Atleast for me
just dont use discord on mobile devices lmao
Does anyone know if they'll ever raise the poly limit? I really want to use this but it's more than 20k. I can decimate it but it's difficult to do. https://kurumi13.deviantart.com/art/MMD-Tokiko-Download-377416061
@vocal shard illegal ways to upload exist but Im not the one to teach you this
I know, but I don't want to get banned.
Beaned
If It wasnt the official vrc discord I wouldve told you what I think
Well, I'm pretty sure you can take someone else's model, convert it to MMD and then say you can't use for VRChat
Just saying.
I think all MMDs are fair use or something?
Also is it pure OC or made out of other's base and meshes?
Idk.
Even if it was an OC, people use it for 99% of other things, so why limit it?
hey was wondering if anyone knows where i can download the Re:zero Pack MMD?
been searching for a while but only found a japanese site where it is distributed privately via twitter list, for japanese people only
set up an elaborate ruse that tricks them into thinking you're japanese
Sometimes searching in Japanese will give you more results. Or Googling the bowlroll URL
do the long con by doing it over a couple weeks
who needs help with mmd models? i can help lol
I need help with finding a cute trap slave
^
wtb trap waifu 10 gold
lolis arent disgusting
Let's just pretend we didn't read that then
u get a real disgusting thing
How do I stop the urge to claim someone, stop being creepy and just generally start being nice to people
but you are nice for the most part
well, i mean, youre a ghost, what do you expect
:c
Also Ghost, i'm pretty sure you're cuter than half these "traps" anyway
No one would be with a ghost
how do i stop making reall nice models then puttinga meme on them?
also if you have someone annoying you i have some good ear rape
i dont do rp sorry

kinda weird
ugandan knuckles is dead
You say that yet they still exist
figure out that i've got kicked out from a werewolf game, just because i did a gesture as a joke >_>
and that i runned away since i were asked to get the f**k out since i don't play, but they didn't even asked if i were in or out to play it...
Some people in public are too serious about their werewolves
and so got insta-kicked without even a warn...
totally ape behavior
and also got marked as bad behavior that notifies the mods π
bs
well, as i'm not in a hub, i heard that i'm fine about it
i didn't :/
because then i moved
ofc, when coming back there, cannot even move or do anything but force-close the game
What's that game anyway
the one about see who's the werewolf
@last ocean i was looking for a RE:zero Pack MMD model if you know anything about that, would be great
theres only singular characters what i find
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/mag_s/blomaga/ar971067 this is what i found but they only distribute through twitter to japanese people so not much use
this one http://rezero.wikia.com/wiki/Pack
has anyone gotten the good ending for mirror curse yet? i did the sacrifice but nothing changed :/
deviant art seems to be the place..?
you can get it ingame from the re:zero world
can you play vrchat with motion controls without vr
if so what do you guys reccomend for motion controls
Is there not a vrchat skin stealer Chat here?
Uh, Razer Hydra nightmares.
If you know their in game name, you can report them to the google form in #moderation-reports.
If not, you can send your output log to moderation@vrchat.com. You need to include what time the avatar stealing happened in your report for this one.
Yet, still no news on favorite worlds? Why?
take a sip everytime someone says they got crashed and then take another sip when it's a stolen model

@hasty wedge I would never stop drinking for over a year
a name u wantnppl to call u 
oof
when u chose a name not expecting to find a community of where the char is from and then it becomes a paradox

touchscreen phones ere a mistake
Why take a sip whenever they say that rather than just drink whenever you want.

@vocal shard VR Pill
@hasty wedge Brilliant job, now go and have fun
You can't have fun?
Lol no
I can't want for the neet life again
π
let's erp for 10 hours to pass time
:d
I bet you can't
Ikr
Knowledge
i seen people crashing ur games more then stealing skins
i even tell them i prefer the knuckles meme over this crashing method
Hi, does anyone know why is my avatar upload stuck at 100%? it stays there and sometimes starts again
wrong channel 
my vrchat crush hasnt been on for like two days
what even is younow :lul:
You don't wanna know
That doesn't really belong in here. 
A shit website as it forces you to use adobe flash
lmao
xddd
this is me xd
first Epicnea not being on for weeks and now the french one not being on for two days
hahah
It's not really related to VRC though.
i wanted to tell her how i feel but i cant now, she hasnt been on for days
That's bad
I was talking about Emrleo's link, not yours. @vocal shard
I can't say the same as you because all crushes I had ingame just fucked with my head :lul:
It's hard
I'm too lonely
Always too lonely
Get a crush on yourself 
It'd be hard for you to feel me π€
They want to appreciate how beautiful they are
If they don't feel like that in real life
It's just natural for them to keep on staring at their own reflex
last time i asked someone out on vrchat she gone offline for weeks
At times i wonder if people see VRC only a a dating thing
i look for someone to date because i had a horrible break up last friday
^ my rem account
I mute myself some times
Just because I don't feel like talking
but I don't like being a mute anime trap π€
ooo epicnea is online
epicnea is one of my crushes
Who's that
it's someone ND likes
Who wants to play vrchat
Me but I'm in school
me but im too lazy to put the headset on
Rip you
if I'm trying to find a model online that someone used ingame, and I wanted to see if anyone knows the one I'm talking about, what channel should I be asking in?
aye aye, cap'n. didn't know if it was just for dev stuff.
Honestly, I think you can just post it here
I asked there once for an avatar and I got a response so don't worry
It's likely just a simple avatar anyways!
w
Is wtfast still a thing lul
obv or i wouldn't be asking
π€
Is there an object size limit?
Scaling things shouldn't make them any more difficult to render, so I'm wondering if I can create a globe and scale it to the size of the actual earth.
Just because it would be funny to do
I'd move it far above the map anyways
objects you spawn in an animation don't have a size limit. Though if you scale a globe to be 1:1 the size the of the earth you won't be able to see all of it because it will exceed the max render distance
However you can just settle for making it really freaking big
Do you know the render distance?
no
Alright, I will try "really freaking big". I know animations get wonky past 100k though because Unity only bothers to calculate 7 digits precision
Hey, I have a question about VR
So I got to try VR today at friend's house and it was REALLY fun and I want one myself, but my problem is that I have GTX 750 Ti
HOWEVER
I read that 750 is capable of running VR
and I thought what if VRChat doesn't really use GPU, it's CPU dependant after all
and the GPU is simply necessary to load the 2 screens
so I was wondering whether I could actually have a nice experience in vrchat + VR and 750 Ti
An 750 TI is like the lowest of lowest any vrgame can run on...
I use a 960 and some games throw frame drops at me
I just don't want to invest on another GPU so soonn
And evne if the game is CPU intensive an gpu is still needed for any other game
as I bought 750 Ti last year and I still have warranty
And you should not buy vr for just vrc at all
It mostly uses the CPU when loading avatars, but the 970 is a minimum for a good reason
Judging by benchmarks I just found, the 970 is almost 3 times faster
If i may ask what did you pay for it...
970 is the minimum everywhere for VR tho
And because any proper vr set up costs more then you should spend on a single game imo...
Hey
but the thing is, imo VRC is one of the less GPU-intensive games
Has anyone gotten unloadable maps
so I thought 750 Ti would show decent performance
Still what is your CPU then
AMD Phenom II x4 955
I cannot load tiz nightclub
That is dekstop though isnt it?
does VR consume processor, tho?
It consumes fucking everything
isn't it mainly loading 2 extra screens..?
Processor is CPU
Also i dont know anything at all really about AMD V intel stuff so cant judge if the cpu is good enough
Vr isnt just two more screens
but it's decent
Also has to process tracking and ect
@coarse blaze If you get VR and stick with your current card you're going to have a rough time.
VR is pretty intensive on both the CPU and the GPU, especially since it has to run at 90fps for a smooth experience.
Still gonna be rough.
Even then VRC is far from greatly optimized
how rough?
You might not have enough vmem either
endless reprojection hell.
I saw that 750 Ti runs at solid 60-70
Also gotta make sure you have enough ports for what Vr you want
motion is going to stutter, linear motion will ghost
I have a 970 and a good CPU, I only run okay-ish. Mirrors can make me lag though
Mirrors make anyone lag
Mirros lagg everyone though
Not my friends
Pretty sure if you run 9th gen intel stuff you still lagg π
Depends what the mirror reflects
Idk, after I tried VRchat with VR
They have 5 models with camera in front of two mirrors, and while my Desktop mode is lagging they're dancing around with VR FBT
I feel like desktop is so boring without VR
Maybe not noticably, but if they pulled up the steamvr frame timing and looked at a mirror they'd see a visible change there.
Had mirrors that i didnt even notice because they only show the avatar and plane walls
But as almost any world does not hae that and forces the game to properly render new things
@coarse blaze The important thing to remember is this: VR is NOT a cheap hobby.
It always drops frames
You could get a HMD now and suffer with your current card while you save up for a better one. But that's up to you.
You can make mirrors only reflect avatars and the ground? Cool, there should be a tut for that
HMD?
Head Mounted Display
ah
@tacit plank Dont include anything in the space the mirror can reflext
Boom ezpz quick guide
generic term for the expensive hunk of plastic and silicon you strap to your face
I'm wondering how hard would it be
cause like
I don't think I'd mind lower fps, it wouldn't cause any issues to my health
It would
Eye strain and nausea are a big thing then
I played at my friends with solid 40-50
And yes
had little to no impact
it was my first time with a headset too
first 5 minutes were dizzy since I wasn't used to VR, but otherwise it was completely fine
even after lots of spinning
Anything lower than 45 is going to be irritating no matter what. Since that's the point reprojection can't save you.
A few minutes of stuttering screen and hands dragging behind within the game is annoying
After a longer time you get nausea from it or big eye strain
FPS needs to be stable for less nausea
People more often complain about these effects after a day or two of playing like this
if it keeps jumping it makes it worse
The game just doesn't handle low FPS well I believe. When I lag, the screen starts getting shaky
thatβs just vr in general
π€
Like, very shaky
damn I really don't want to spend extra 200 just to play VR
cause like, vive is already 600
Proper hardware is expensive
Can get an Ocu and be cheaper off
But as caff said
Proper tech takes money
and this is pretty new, cutting edge tech
Especially recently, wtf is up with ram prices?
Oculus has built in optimization so it should run a bit smoother than a vive on lower end cards
vive has better tracking so far i noticed
32GB of the worst DDR4 ram on the market is like 700$
no, basic vive
Doesnt ocu also godray more is was it vive that did that
Oculus does have a bit more of a God ray effect yes
what's god ray effect
But the controllers and the slightly sharper text on oculus was an easy win for me
glare due to lenses
Look it up
Do you know the reason? I heard about a factory fire but that was years ago and they can't keep using that at the excuse
@coarse blaze when you're looking at a bright area in a black background.
Godrays π₯
High contrasting rays
Hello
hmm
?????
so Oculus has better view-ability
Bruh the market is just insane with asking and paying money
The demand aint going down and peeps keep payng
but Vive has smoother tracking?
Can someone tell me how to fix unloadable maps?
They're fairly similar
one has facebook tho
the big advantage to the vive is it has a larger max tracking volume. By quite a lot.
Also it's a lie when people say vives tracking is that much better. Unless you want full body tracking oculus has equal tracking
I tried both
Perceptibly, the tracking is the same.
When you actually measure it, the vive's is better.
The advantage on vives end is if you're gonna be playing in a huge ass room
@little relic used both and imo the vive tracks nicer
Lets call it that
Like when i was doing stupid shit the ocu could lose connection fairly easy
with the vive i legit have to block them fully for them to not work
It depends how you have your sensors set up
GPUs are expensive because of miners, but why are regular mobos 300$+?
The CPU I bought 4 years ago has almost doubled in price since!
well, the best way for me to test whether my pc can handle or not
So when anything is not optimal i say the vive is better with tracking
Oculus works best when the sensors are up high
is for my friend to bring the vive to my place
Mainly because of the way they track
Not in front of you
but I don't think he'd do that
Bring your pc to his place then
@tacit plank Most parts have not dropped in price for ages... most even got raised
@coarse blaze You can also give this a try
http://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/SteamVR_Performance_Test/
It's not a perfect magical measuring tool, but it gives you a good idea.
What's your specs?
That vr test is fairly nice though imo
and it had 60-80 FPS
at least in the video
mostly 70-80
but sometimes would go to like 67?
;_; Why, hardware industry? With all the new backdoors you can at least fall in price or go up in speed
What card and cpu do you have @coarse blaze
Press X on that claim
Most machines do a lot worse in that test then in the acutal game with it
this video
Getting those fps would throw you up the green zone
@umbral reef true
@little relic Asus GTX 750 Ti and AMD Phenom II x4 955 black edition
I got "medium" in the VR test, but I had 2 browsers and desktop VRChat open at the same time lol
The lowest card I've seen someone use vr in is a 750
Well if you want to ruin the card the video is a good example
I'm off to bed it's midnight now
as far as I remember, it's Asus
??????
Or is he not bothering to overclock
Helllllooooo???
@coarse blaze with that card you should get an oculus
@umbral reef got warranty for another year so..
You'll be ok
I guarantee it
Wait
and it's cheaper too
ok ok ok lemme 
You can return it otherwise, right?
Yeah I didn't want to trust just one source
Anyways, laters
@little relic it's 2
Oh shit
Getting fps in that program is not the same as FPS within VR itself
Then idk
The test result at the end shows clearly its not vr ready at all
And thats for a reason
Those tests are bs
My friend keeps getting warnings on his oculus that his pc is not vr compatible or ready
And he plays games just fine on it
my main concern
Ocu test is bullshit imo
is VRChat
His is below the specs
but that steam test is fairly okish
@coarse blaze vrchat is more cpu reliant than gpu
Vrchat is super CPU intensive with single core so far i know
How much vram does it have
might be a bit low
2GB of vram is pretty low indeed
Since a lot of people have high res textures
Yeah it's low
But what was the cpu again? As i cant be assed to scroll up
AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE
Ahh, the goold ol' Phenom II processors.
for the price it cost, it's a really nice processor
My PC might be the most budget you could see that runs mid-end fairly well
I had a Phenom II x6 up until recently. Lasted me since I got it around 2012. Damn good thing.
An average i5 4th gen outperforces the shit out of that thing












