#vrchat-general-2
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uhm
i've seen avatar theft on people with like nametag pins
you do know that they pull it out of their own log?
it was really funny
hacking would be going into someone elses pc
No.
LEL
Hacking by definition is getting unauthorized access to data in a system.
hacking is where you're going through a forest and you need a machete to get through the brush
Which, is what they do.
then what is cracking or modding leviathan
Basically
srsly doe, hacker is like a praise for those people
Isn't "Script kiddies" the term to use?
yeah
but i think it sounds childish and dumb
Script kiddies tends to be the slang term for hackers on borrowed tools ye
i mean i can call myself a hacker by the old terms even, i take things apart and figure out how to make them do what i want.
well, by that definition
Hacker isnt that great of a term, its really general and basic.
i prefer the term "maker" or "engineer" nowadays
some people in vrchat are hacking by rewriting the max poly limit
People just decided to make it holyshitomg
Without going into deeper detail of how it's done (And no one else should be either) about getting past the poly limit, "hacking" is a very generous word to use imho
Generous but still applicable.
well, personally i dont mind when people do that stuff as long as it isnt abused to worsen someones game experience
like, when they have 40k polys, but optimised it to run very well
or if they use a gigantic avatar way above max height just to replay king kong or so
make a local digital billboard show "traps are gay" instead of showing ads.
As someone used to hack before. Hacking tends to be something that drains the shit out of your fun really quick for some highbrow reactions and short lived fun.
Ever play a game for awhile find some cheats and then stop playing that game that very week?
yep
well, same thing with hosting a server for 1 friend
gets boring after a while
huh..
Out of sheer curiosity I wanted to see if I could play online matches with item cheats enabled on Mario Kart Wii on my softmodded console, which I could.
xD
If i get a commission for a model of my oc and someone steals it, id be flattered tbh.
I want people to love my character
There was no delay to the items aswell
perma bullet bills
Would go so fast I would clip above the track
It was fun to do twice, then I played regularly
you can fall through the floor vrchat style
I want boneitus to stop happening while sitting in chairs
I think I know which bug you mean
Apparently every 10th minute for whatever reason your avatar reloads or something, and if you happen to sit in a seat with standing mode you get crushed down into the chair
Changing to seated play before sitting down is a temp fix
jokes on u but my models dont work on chairs
I should import a walking chair...
judging by your name I guess you only use little gremlins as avatars

Actually made an animation override for one of my small avatars for it so sit properly
So simple
can send you the animation clip if you want
You'll probably need to finetune the properties
It's literally changing the root.Q value which determines the height
ye
Oh well
If anyone else wants it, let me know
FYI to override a sitting animation you override the "idle" slot and put the controller in the "seated" slot
What website do you guys use for objects within animations 
i make the animation and object myself ๐ค
Im to dumb to understand 3D modeling so
g
i just use the unity object
Doing the animations and materials its not to hard
still looks fine tbh
Like i only just learned how to combine objects within blender 
I can now make keychain plushies c:
well, i mainly screw around with particle systems
do people still play this?
!online
There are 4026 users in VRChat currently
^yes... Yes we do
Vrchat's population is on a rise. The knuckles boom helped it a lot.
well, depends
some people left vrchat cause of that
it massivly killed the servers
and the servers still havent recoverd fully
Im still not positive about ugandan knuckles
best for it to stay dead and never come back
Ugandan knuckles definitely helped vrchat get a boom
Only thing keeping me off is the crappy vive controls.
aka should've stayed at VRChat and not spread outside of it
I wouldnt think it would be all that difficult for them to add an option, but here we are like 3 weeks later and not a thing
Why? Elitism only kills games.
People thought it was funny. Nothing wrong with that.
I just got VR, so I don't know what the controls were before, but the new ones are alright for me
Which one?
"People thought it was funny" except for the people who legit wanted to stab themselves at the sight or memory of the little red bastards.
And HTC Vive
I always thought it was funny. Sucks they couldnt enjoy it.
Ah, yeah, the old vive controls were better. I barely play because of the change. It Sucks cause I miss hanging out with friends in vr
Then again vrchat gets dull since people form their cliques and its hard to intrude
I hated it. Before that, I hated fidget spinners, before that I hated terms like "angery" and "succ", before that I hated "boi" and "doot", before that I hated "Doggo" and "Pupper" and baneposting, etc.
Sounds like youre not all that fun of a guy.
and minor WMR users got their walking machine ๐ ฑ roken after that vive controller update
So maybe I just hate everything around me
Oh well, all different people in the world
Yeah, since wmr uses the same type of pad.
I know people tell me to get over it, but it makes me so mad trying to use it. The thing I do most in vr is move
I'm not standing still in vr. I want to move close and see
Explore in vr
Take away my ability to move effortlessly and its not fun. Its just annoying.
yes and no. vrchat doesn't officially support wmr and wmr only has 'native' support by emulating vive controllers
but got it working now, by modding the steam vr and remapping touchpads for gestures and joysticks for rotation/walking machine
wish they add native wmr support tho soon
I wonder if they will have an update soon
They haven't had an update in like
Beginning of the month
Maybe theyre starting to abandon it, since player count is still falling
maybe vote here so if this will be implemented, we wont be clueless anymore ๐ https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/more-and-regular-blog-posts (shameless plug)
okay
They shouldn't of broken it in the first place
It shows what type of group they are
You think they would abandon their project for no good reason?
Yeah, not enough money
They haven't got a huge cash influx from vive or anybody recently
If the game is dying
I'm sure they have plans related to that
After all, the game being free was intentional. And the user count did drop a bit, but that was to be expected after the knuckles thing. Now they just need things to work properly, and to limit cheaters and such which might scare away new players
Eh I never understood the fear of cheaters
Its not a competitive game
And sure a drop is expected, but it's still steadily declining week by week
thats a good thing
I didn't mean the avatar-stealing part, even though they will also annoy players. I meant "earrape" and gore pictures
i hope thats not sarcasm cause it is a gud thing ๐ค
Gore is gore, we're on the internet
And hell earrape occurs in discord. There isn't much you can do about that
I don't mind, but some young person who has just installed VRChat, or a person who has a hard time with social things to begin with? They'll likely quit
just look at the date https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410356345297174530/429278269381017600/old.png
Ok?
I'm not sure what you're talking about, I've never heard earrape on Discord, and saying that you have to see gore on the internet is just giving up
I have, and I'm not saying you have to, just grow some skin
I've only come across gore when I've been an idiot (stayed on websites during 4chan raids, gone on an imgur-roulette website, face mashed my keyboard on Google images, etc)
I'm more annoyed at the people who break the 20k poly b limit
polys don't matter tho
They do, but it's just barely
They do
instead of being annoyed why not be more informed ๐ค
Especially even you get a bunch of peoplr who break the poly limit in a room
And performance tanks
Raw polycount is just one of the factors what makes an avatar performant
I can look at 20 players and get 60~ FPS, then drop to 30 FPS because of one fire-effect
number of materials, skinned mesh renderers, dynamic bones, ik tracking, etc. are the main performance hits
Why not ban the whole game
Not a bad idea
yeah lets just ban the main appeal of VRChat
Yeah
makes total sense
Dynamic bones is one of the major culpits of poor performance, if not done sparingly
Imo the only reason the game is fun is because of the avatars...
Most worlds are to boring to look at and have nothing else to provide
People are boring and if i just wanted to talk with movements id do it irl
I mean, polys count, sure, but if one shader can lag as much as a cluster of 20 people, they're a bigger problem. Maybe somebody should make a tutorial on proper fire effects with little to no lag?
I've been in a room with an avatar that had over a million polys and had no lag. Its not that big of an issue
The avatars are actually the least interesting thing to me. I'm also in vr so I like seeing some of the little details put into worlds.
CAffeine the problem is not that people dont know how to do it
People that really want to can legit just google and read up on these things
Its more that people dont want to put the effort into doing that
Without avatars, I'd have to leave. There have been countless interactive chats over the years, and this one is way better
I also like picking up shit and throwing it or juggling it in vr.
The fact that there are literally no limits to what your avatar can be is the main appeal of VRChat
@stable folio I often world jump all alone to find cool worlds
Legit 99% of the vrchat maps are nothing special
They put effort into making fire effects to begin with, so if they learned the proper, non-laggy way to begin with it should be better
I know
I dont play a game because 1% of something is great
Its why the game is starting to lose one of tbe main appeals
No actually creative maps
Be the solution you want to see ๐
make some maps then
Well, I've seen some really cool maps, but you really are limited in what you can do without scripting
Nah, ill just leave when I'm fully satisfied with it
Thats why i like the avatar
they can be just as detailed, funny or interactive as maps 
Its still rare to see it but not as rare as cool worlds
intellectual ^
In extreme cases... But yeah, some avatars are honestly amazing. Like the "custom avatar" guy
I do enjoy seeing maps that are ripped from games ive played
If you make your avatar a map, prepare to be blocked by me ๐
No but things from like the shop keeper avatars
The avatars that have insane animations (robots flying around, drones ect) or just plain joke things like i tend to have
So I can actually see what it is like in vr
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Don't joke about that on the discord, thanks, caffeine
Yes molestation is srs bsns
I meant I kiss random people on VRChat
I still want to attempt to make a space world
Think of all the molested kids
But i cant even model things with blender 
Unwanted sexual advances can be considered rape
grab a space skybox, put in a floating platform, add some nice ambient music and bam, you've got a space world
I'm going to do it in VRChat though, unless they're clearly against it
desktoppers have no defense theyll like it or not
Wow you're bragging bout forcing yoursrlf on people

That's disgusting
In VRChat, you think I ever leave my room?
I kissed two Kannas last time I played, one didn't react, the other made a loud kissing sound
The Hoppou ran away though ๐ฆ
its always the hoppous i swear
the otherday i had to spend 30min to get to hug her
gave up

well
more like 15min
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Aww, you will manage next time!

Otherwise, come find me, I'm a hoppou in a bikini with a static expression of a cat mouth and heart pupils
I just get abused and called names within vrchat by everyone 
Every friend group or strangers i meet
They always say the same thing

I had a group come up to me and tell me that nobody likes me and that I should leave. I just laughed at them but then remembered that they might say it to somebody who actually cares, which would be sad
People apparently can't remember what the iron giant looks like and always calls me that
Even tho its the robot from castle in the sky
Poorly colored
wow 
Never seen them before so they were clearly just running around being rude for fun
id walk up to them
Thats boring
maybe just don't go to public worlds
and kiss them until the MP shows up
Public worlds are the best
How would you make friends then tidus?
I had gone there since I followed a friend, then went AFK to do other things
Through friends of friends
must be nice being in friends+ and private worlds 
How else do I get the latest and greatest cancer
Thats how I met all of my friends in vrc
oh, well that was assuming you had friends in the first place

Haven't met a decent worthwhile friend on a private world
And most of the time friends groups dont care about the third wheel
otherwise braving public worlds is your only option
Since theyre already content with their friends
^^
You have to go out and see the raw cancer, the bad acoustic guitarists, and the lag inducers
it may have its flaws but it thought me something
I'll pass on that
Then youre what is wrong with vrc tidus
Not being welcoming to new players and hiding in your hidey holes with your cliques
Smh
Hell is paved with good intentions
Havent used that idiom in a while
One of my favorite ones actually
look, I work a full time job and at the end of the day I just wanna chill with my friends in VRChat and not be harassed by knuckles, memes, and particle effects.
Desick maybe dont judge him instantly
yeah, you come off as a bit of an asshole
Lol we always judge instantly
Maybe thats explains why the respondse was pretty cuntish ๐
Just think why he feels like that
I got internship from 6-6 all day and i also dont want to see lagging bullshit avatars in my worlds but i still go to publick ones
Work isnt an excuse, its just your preferences
(and that is only work, i still have to cook and work after that)
I completely understand why you dont go to public worlds
I wasn't using it as an excuse, just explaining why I don't go to public worlds often
and you're entitled to your opinion
I know I am lol
Its my favorite thing about the internet
I can just broadcast my opinions
Desick maybe before you say dumb things like that he is the problem of the game dont do it while your insulting him and being kinda of an Ahole about things...
Kinda makes the comment look silly
I used to go to public worlds all the time when I first started playing VRChat. But just because I enjoy hanging out with my friends instead of only talking to randos in public worlds doesn't mean I'm whats wrong with the game
Do you strictly hang out with your friends in vrc?
That was the impression I was getting
Pretty much. I only play once or twice a week so I like to spend what little time I have in game with my friends
Never said that
Just said your arguments look shit because of it
I,mean if a mod wants to kick me for being an asshole
Then he can
And you dont have to listen to my arguments either. I'm not expecting tidus to change his ways
If he is happy, he he should do what he wants
lol whatever you say man. There are thousands of players in VRChat now and plenty of people who play in public worlds. Its not like its impossible to meet new people
My point is youre just deadweighting rather than,helping contribute to the success of vrc by encouraging new people to stay, and showing that vrc isnt a walled garden sort of game
But in the end, I dont really care. I'm just enjoying myself here.
Why does everyone need to put effort into improving an community though?
Shitting on people just wanting to hang with their friends doesn't seem to be helping to contribute to anything either.
I know lol
I do contribute though. I'm in the middle of making a world for VRChat right now. Not everyone has to contribute in the same way
Tidus just chatting here helps more then the average player does 
On a more relevant note, I hate how discord wont let you see,like a full size image of somebodies profile pic
What's wrong with people wanting to hang out with a group of friends that they know? I mean... people have no obligation to hang out with you.
There is nothing wrong with it.
VRchat is an social VR app. There literally isn't a right way to "play" it
Likr zarniwoops profile pic is like some frigging furry thing
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Thats not a damn cat its like a fucking cow thing with a vegeta haircut
Oof, low quality bait
https://i.imgur.com/XfKYBht.jpg This zarni?
What the heck is it tho? Like you got a full sized image?
It's my avatar I made myself.
It's a good OC
haven't seen that meme in a while oclac ๐
f**k new players. i am staying in my hidey hole
why is this desick guy trying to be so edgy
makes me understand tidus not wanting to go to public worlds
Because he thinks it makes him look sharp. comedy drum solo
if i have to meet ppl like desick there that are trying way too hard
bd tm tss
https://i.imgur.com/uLbgP6e.png This is why
i mean he does have a point. it is pretty hard to meet new people because most serious vrchat people are in private rooms all the time
Also while this chat is active ima plug myself 
Add me on VRC: Oclac
@rain turtle dont have more then those anyway so your lucky 
oh nice
i got a lot of those fish!
It is commendable if people wants to seek out new people and "bring them under their wings", however that isn't or shouldn't be expected of anyone.
oh no
ima upload em quick
i like that you can actually use the chat on the discord now though
when i started it was moving far too fast to get a conversation going
Hard to meet people? Theres hundreds if not thousands of people in public worlds at any one time
Ow you prob talked when the servers where down then orso
Its kinda rare how active it is currently
Normally this only happens when a server dies
it was pretty bad when vrchat went popular
even without server down
i miss my 250~ ppl online at the same time, times : <
me too moshi
Well the chat is pretty death now comapred to those times yes
But it was not flooding the chat fast most of the time
I'd like to think people are actually interacting with each other in-game rather on the discord
^
The discord is basically tech support, and that's fine to me
I love tech support though

mhmm, I basically only used this discord for tutorials when I started VRChat
have you tried turning it off and then on again?
Moto im sadly at the point where id rather replace the full machine then bother asking them to turn things off and on again
Its easier
God dont ya love nurses and doctors that got the power to break "unbreakable cables"...
Or a lot worse
Oh to respond to earlier, I'm just screwing around
I do think my point is valid
But I dont really ultimately care what people do
I'm working on a Audience Participation DND Dungeon Run for VRChat. Any writers around who would like to help out?
How would that even work?
I lead the audience through their location and then give them options to choose from. Think of it as a text based adventure game.
Hmm interesting
I have already done some testing of the format and it worked well during an Open Mic Night
So I am building a world for it to run these events from
Yeah, it Sounds interesting
I Unfournately dont know any writers
You could tastefully lift ideas from books
I know the 5e dnd books have a recommended reading list
Well this is actually going for more of an entertainment comedic vibe on the whole DnD
Lots of Video game references
Ahh
Well, good luck, it sounds cool. You could trt putting up something on like wattpad or fan fiction. Theyre usually cringey enough
If I had experience being a DM I'd offer but rip.
Does anyone know about the audio source thing
i want to make a animation where i does multiple songs one after the other
if i add more than 1 audiosource to that object will it play both at the same time
look at how long each audio source is, then trigger each audio source sequentially in your animation. Or alternatively, just paste all the songs together in audacity and only have one audio source.
What do you mean? Are you referring to the multiple audio source method or the single audio source method?
the audacity one
you're just taking the first song, then pasting the second song to the end of it, and so on
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I've found that one of the fixes to the vive reversed audio bug is to use Nividia's Vive playback channel instead of the default HTC Vive.
@vocal shard can I chat with you privately
@vocal shard If you need to contact the dev team directly, you're way better off sending an email to hello@vrchat.com
^
Still a good chance to not get a response from my experience
Responses of course aren't guaranteed, but each mail does get read
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Oh my God... You know how there's a "Sexual Content" tag commonly used on the VRChat Steam page?
Whaaaa
Well, turns out Steam thinks I'm into sexual games.
o.o
Little hentai
Whatever Steam manages to present here, it's not exactly what I'd be looking for.
Steam doesnt lie 
Zarniwoop you still here
My tracking is really bad, sometimes it completely stops working, and I need to point the controller in a specific direction to be able to rotate.
Is this normal when you have a lot of stuff in your room?
You should have a clear space so it can track without problems
I don't have any more space :/ and the stuff is not nearly as tall as I am. It might still be "reflective surfaces" though
Is it normal that VRChat crashes average 2-3 times every hour with oculus?
could also be that oculus home and steamVR arent getting along
a pc restart might fix
Once i disabled virtual memory alocation and the game crashed all the time, so propably 8gb ram and 6gb allocated is not enough sometimes
You need more than 8gb of ram with vr
Hackers are evolving.I blocked him but still can hear him.Also he follows me every world
He shouldn't be able to join you in a private world
Sad to hear that
Did you mute him on top of blocking?
Rip
big odds you didnt block him if the name shows
Could be an alt account of his I guess
nope i blocked him and i dont see him anymore but i can hear him talking
He's like ''You can still hear me right?''
Hhh
got it
Hi
saaaame
oh, late chat lol
that moment when you read a chat and go you reply to it but find out apparantly +50 chats have happened since then
I hate that. I almost did that just now lol
My "Build and publish" button is greyed out for some reason?
@tacit plank Stuffs showing red errors?
No errors
checked the therms button?
Therms?
I uploaded avatars until now just find, btw, but now the button is greyed out on all avatars
Yeah, standing side by side
Try pressing the run l> Button
And then try it
At times it fixes stuff for me ๐คท
Else i got no idea 
"Cannot edit while Unity is running"
Well the problem is project specific it it throws that error
i know that for sure
and its often when an animation or alike is running i if i recall correct
Oh it only shows that error when I press play
uploading the avatars kinda works the same as running play ๐
Atleast its how i understand it
Dont quote me at all on it
Otherwise, no errors. The "Build and publish" buttons are just greyed out (in the list with avatars in the scene, I can't even get to the upload part)
but you are hiding all but the avatar your attempting to upload ?
If not try doing that
Not hiding anything. Not sure hot to either
If your in the hierarchy tree and you click on a model (so you get the full model and not just the body)
You will get the information about the full avatar
At the top left of that information part there is a blue check mark
I will just redo it in another project..
I'm trying to get my stream chat to show in my vr....how? DM me pls to assist
I have the opposite problem, my Steam opened in VRChat and it took me like a minute to figure out how to close it ๐
the more I use Dash the more I like the ability to grab and pin desktop windows as overlays inside of whatever I'm doing in VR.
I feel like a webcam connected to VRChat would be a neat technology
You'd be able to see which wire you're about to trip over or which wall you're about to walk into, without having to take off the headset
is there a way to fix outer space loading screen
is it loading forever?
yes
If any admins are online theres someone stealing avatars certainly stealing mine and says he going to sell it for 100
dollars)
delete ur id and remove
reupload
its a personal
oh
but he will steal it again'
update your avatar with legos and block and update then block him
i did block him in-game and i met him again he had a different one when i blocked him when i unblocked him he had my avatar
his name is bigdaddio69 im pretty sure
reupload when that happens aagain
Report them to the google document in #moderation-reports.
is a picture allowed here as a nice grim reminder of adulthood?
i answered my own question
I hope he gets banned or atleast get what that stealing avatar guy gets
You won't be able to post pictures anyways. But now I'm curious what you're refering to Reaping
Tell me what you think of my Mario impression!
https://twitter.com/ChrisPatstone/status/979855720261681152
If someone has a classic miku avatar with the different miku dances as emotes could you please send me it?
I always like doing the kid voice when using my chibi avatars but it hurts my voice
ok so i mangaed to get the files for the custom avatar in sonic forces model parts but they
@vocal shard IN game on your gui is a button to ask moderation to join you immediatly, either do that or fill out the report at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScy051RCaR0BRe8JPiWpfAgYlAf-VyunKVTm14Q4YMZPY3jDQ/viewform?usp=sf_link
are in a wierd file type but after i extract them from that file type they are in another wierd file type i know nothing about
Does anyone have a miku avatar with miku dances you can send me?
the models themselves are in a .model format
Hmm
sounds like @cyan rapids #avatars-mmd
they're not mmd
what are they then?
these were legit rips
oh
You aren't allowed to discuss ripping in here.
i know, its just im curious about the file type
and google ain't doing s*it to help
i've been waiting a super long time to get these files i don't wanna have to wait even longer due to the files not being useable
psst
hate to interrupt here but i just would like to ask, is there a way to be able to change the camera sensitivity? i find it way too fast
I don't think there's a way to do that currently other than changing your mouse sensitivity itself.
NEVERMIND I FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET THEM WORKING
there's a program that converts them to fbx
oh crap
i just forgot i still need to extract textures too
looks at avatar stuff FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
WAIT NVM THE TEXTURES ARE ALREADY EXTRACTED YYYEESSS
Anyone else been getting really slow download speeds for worlds lately? Can't seem to get over 5-10 Mbit/s on worlds, but other stuff downloads faster. A speedtest while downloading worlds shows 100Mbit/sec+ of available bandwidth. :/ Wondering if they're cappin' down speeds or something.
Quick Announcement! Dont play on public worlds werewolf! there are some guys going around teleporting all cards and pens somewhere on the map and having loud music on!!! 1 of them is playing the Sephiroth Battle Music of Final Fantasy! If u see 1 of them be Advised to instantly kick them before they break the game!
In the Following Picture the Name kewbIIIIIIIIkwob is the person playing the sephiroth music and teleporting those cards!!!
People play werewolf in public rooms? O.o
we were explaining the cards but this ass teleported them all the time.
and he left before we could kick him.
or he is able to avoid the 1 hour kick of the room somehow.
Report them to the google document in #moderation-reports.
@weak hearth how do you even check that?
Thanks @vocal shard just used it to report 1 of them wasnt able to get the other one.
@mental shuttle Ctrl+Shift+Escape and you can see how much you're currently using in the Ethernet section of the Performance tab. (Windows 10)
And speedtest.net for checking the remaining available bandwidth.
Why do Custom Maid models have such high polygon count? (Not actually asking, just ranting a small bit.)
'cause with all the details it has.
I mean, I managed to get the one I use for my PFP to work but I had to heavily cut down on details and remove extra hidden polygons. That thing sat at around 50,000.
Then I see models like this and they are somehow under 20,000 https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/911291156957755028/D59608E9EA0C38A826D83F9711E1AD61A6F33C7F/
If anyone has some advanced tips on decimating high polygon models and keep the retainability of its details, I am more than willing to learn.
Retopology.
You can learn it to keep most details as it is while having less polygon.
I'll check it out, thank ya'
@vocal shard that's mostly texture detail tho
that one in particular
cause i bet if you go look at her the skirt is pretty plain mesh, the hair isn't much
Yeah, pre-decimation the hair all-together is a total of roughly 10,000 polygons.
The front part of the hair is about 2000, back part 5,500 and twintails are 3,300.
A lot of stuff that MMD makers use polys for can be done with alpha and normal maps.
That's completely useless info for anyone editing a MMD model, though.
Wish there was an easy way to bake detail of polys to normal maps.
what's so hard about it
you'll want to duplicate the lowpoly mesh and alt+s it up so it's not inside the highpoly mesh for best results
i guess that is getting complicated
Makin' the low poly mesh isn't always straightforward either. ;p If all you have is the MMD
So I can export the model as a pmx or obj file straight from the source.
is anyone else seeing spotlights that follow random people around and blare earrape at max volume? they don't count as players, and we can't find who is doing it.
people who downloaded public cheats from a website
check the output log so you can find the hidden user
it should be along the lines of "so and so" has joined the room
You could also email your output log to moderation@vrchat.com. Make sure you include what time they appeared when you saw them.
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
Anybody think they can help me out with attempting to find a model? Just want some tips on where I might be able to find it, had a quick romp through nicovideo and deviant-art in attempting to find it with no luck. Pretty sure it's an MMD model, Trigger Chan.
You could follow this video seeing as it's an MMD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P0ljQ6hU0A
Oh, I'm not trying to import it yet, I'm just attempting to find it online. I found the model in an avatar world so I know it's around, just can't find it.
Oooh, wait, find a model, I read that as import a model. Sorry.
What does it look like?
I'll put my screenshot in imgur real quick, just a sec
https://i.imgur.com/WlkXmiN.jpg
I know the character's name is Trigger Chan
Or possibly Luluco
Definitely can say that I haven't seen that model in nicovideo.
Yeah, niceovideo was the first place I looked in
Have you tried asking the person who uploaded that where they got it?
There's the thing, it was just sitting on a pedestal in an avatar world, I'd love to ask the creator of the world but I'm not sure how I would go about finding them
From 'Tea, Cakes, and Avatars'
:/ Most I can find is an old model of Luluco in normal form and that one doesn't have a download link.
Yeah, at this point I'm trying several websites I've never even seen before
looks like a gumi edit to me
Does it? I'm not too familiar with the ins and outs of MMD models so I wouldn't know what it was derived from originally
It doesn't look like a Gumi to me. 
At this point I wish I could find the world creator and just ask them directly
You can see their name if you look at the world in the menu, try to see if they're here.
Oh, can I? Shows my level of attention.
Can you what?
Yeah, this shows my attention span right here, just went into the world and their discord is right on the wall as you spawn in
RIP me
Oh, well, that makes it easier for you to ask. 
i got 'em working
but the textures keep looking wierd on the face and head stuff
they're darker than they're supposed to be, they should match th e body
Well that explains why we can't find it anywhere, it's their own scratch made model and they haven't released it publically yet
Guess I'll just have to go to the avatar world until they maybe put it up for download
hi, is someone playing with a mixed reality headset and a 960 minimum ?
one of my friends is playing on mixed reality with a gtx 1050
do you know how much it is playable like how many fps ?
Well, they weren't complaining much
idk since i only have a 960 i need to know if it will be enough
for a playable gameplay
Anyone know any worlds similar to fever dream ?
You'll bring peace, freedom and security to your new world
lol
I cant go to any public server anymore without getting kicked because of idiot ingrates spamming the crap out of people and because I recently joined everyone blames me. And because everyone's muted and blocked with panic mode I can't say anything about it to defend myself! Then it makes me look bad when I get kicked and twitch streamers show it. But to their surprise and demise its not going to help them at all!
thats twice ive been kicked like that
are you sure it's not just something you're doing
every kick i've ever seen are on people being inconsiderate
im sure, it was some other dude making images stick in your screen of Nudity and Halo stuff.
not even i knew who it was.
idk the only thing to do these days during these weird attacks are just uh
get that output, send as mod report
i guess it'll just be a fad and hopefully pass
yeah.
nothing else we can do
Panic mode is nice, but turns out its a double edged sword.
is someone here playing vr with a gtx 960 ?
Do you think MMD model downloads skyrocket after VRChat?
yea
before it really was just people playing around with actual mmd or just posing around for fun and scenes
or putting it into some other games i guess, but that was harder
WITH MAGIC OF CATS PLUGIN, BLENDER, AND UNITY, I PUT THIS MODEL INTO MY ACCOUNT!
Before VRChat: "oh this model looks cool but simply posing this is just lame."
After VRChat: "This looks cool! Where is the dl?"
Honestly me I find some models to fit with voices I do
cause honestly its a nice way to practice improv
Trying to perfect my insane german voice
with streaming and the facerig thing to not have to show your real face online,
models like this also became more popular
My face is already public lol so that is out fo the question but wanted to try facerig
But I would need someone to make a rig similar to my profile pic
@kind folio we will see lol maybe learn how to make rooms
Bird aee fairly old for vrchat standerts
And traps is a anime meme more then vrchat
And also a lot older then the knuckle stuff even x
lol
I wonder if I can do Terrormons voice
Not gonna lie, I used Google Translate to talk to foreign speaking people
I feel a bit bad xD
Traps have been here since the start of VRChat
Or when the support of MMD models is available
ah
catfishing is a sport as old as the stars
honestly I go both teams so Im not fazed xF
mm
What ever happened to the rainbow bears? It is like they disappeared from vrchat
I'm getting login issues with VRChat
does anyone know what happened to controller support on vrchat? ever since the gesture and panic mode update the option for using a controller on vrchat disappeared
My Steam and XBox 360 controller appears to work fine ever since the update, are you sure the option is needed?
since i keep hearing mixed things, does anybody actually know if stealing avatars is still possible since the pedestal method was stopped? i am trying to decide whether i want to play as my character at all in pub lobbies
i've heard everything from "no" to "yes, they can rip all of the files and put them in their own unity"
some proof or reliable info instead of more hearsay would be appreciated
Unity games themselves aren't known for their super great security, and yes, there are ways to rip user models from the game (Which obviously I'm not going to get into here as to how to do it). Good news however is I'm working on a way you can set up your models yourself to make it a a major pain in the ass to actually get your model working, if someone decides to rip the files.
At this point I just need to confirm with a friend who knows to rip models that my technique actually works out, then I plan on making a video tutorial to set it up.
Short version is you make a new blend shape, you randomize the vertices into an unrecognizable mess. You set that shape as basis. Duplicate the previously existing blendshapes from mix so you need to have the previous basis shape active, plus the other blendshapes to do visemes, eyeblinking properly. Inside unity you set the previous basis shape to always be active so it looks proper, but technically the default state of the model is still that gargled mess of vertex points.
As to why this works, is because getting blendshapes is either really difficult or downright impossible I have been told.
So I'm looking into using blendshapes as some sorts of "anti-piracy"
my question is why, Zarniwoop?
Is getting an avatar 'Stolen' all that big of a deal? Like hear me out, I make my avatars from Blender
and put them in and whatnot
Why help content creators protect their models, indeed...?
Sure, i guess. I'm just more curious is it worth adding a bunch of just unneeded complexity to it?
if you're one to care about it, yes
Will it lag the game at all?
I know a lot of people play with a frigging toaster, and Unity isn't the more resource friendly application sometimes
People who actually take the time and create their own models don't want just anyone to use them. To me this should go without saying
Hmm. I suppose it just boils down to preferences
I find it very disrespectful to artists to say "It's just an avatar" when they want to have control over their content
also commisions, if you paid a decent sum of money to someone to make a model only for some script kiddie to come up and copy your avatar, you'd be pretty pissed
That too
I suppose
I always viewed it as "Im using it, thats all that matters" after I create my avatar
if somebody takes it, thats fine with me
Its mostly the convenience that I can simply pull up the avatar instead of going to an avatar world and going through the 1000s of avatars to find one
im not really one to care if people "steal" mine because all I generally do is port them over and only recently started doing gestures
but i can see where people are coming from when they get angry about it
Like I said earlier, the only thing I could see people getting angry over is the paid commissions
Since they paid for it, but
Additional and better avatar security can only lead to artist being more willing to upload their models to VRchat. I honestly don't see any downsides to this
Only thing I'm concerned with, is lag. If it starts lagging the game, then I'll be annoyed.
what about people that sink days/weeks into things like particles and shit?
Bully for them I suppose
In my case, if having one blendshape always being active is causing any issues, then being able to play VRchat would be a miracle in itself
wonder if anything is planned in regards to dealing with screen covering shaders
I think vive locomotion options are more important than avatar theft prevention.
I haven't encountered that yet
can you not access menus?
Ah
The "panic button" that was implemented a while ago is a short term fix for that
only way to deal with that is safe mode
Yeah
@stable folio some people spend literally hundreds of hours on an avatar and make it "just for them"
i'm one of these ppl - i do not want others using my work
sounds like your opinion
I guess you're learning the program very well
So there is that
Yeah, I'm aware of what an opinion is, thanks.
i mean all gaming and VR etc boils down to being a "waste of time" at the end of the day
and yes i have never made anything for any game before, so i have learned a lot
yeah tell me about it. I'm frigging wasting my time here instead of studying. EMAG2 sucks, don't become an engineering student
Self inflicted bash wounds are cheaper
I do like that communities like this encourage people to learn a program.
although i'm afraid i dont think i'll use blender ever in my professional life
i've learnt that game development, while very complicated, can be a lot of fun. and honestly the most rewarding aspect of creating content for VRChat has been that i have a newfound respect for the work that goes into other games
having to go through the entire process of putting something into a game has kinda given me a new perspective on it idk
quite literally a new perspective ๐
lol
I've learned enough about software development in general
that I hate doing it
I don't like thinking in code
because originally I was going to go into a programmer-esque field
Doing something of the scope of even this is a hassle. Unity does make things easier obviously
Since a lot of work can just be bought from the store and they dont need to sit there and reinvent the wheel
my mind strayed halfway thru that last sentence smh
unfortunately a lot of software dev and game dev too involves a lot of reinventing the wheel
constantly
the only reason im not a software dev is i suck way too hard at mathematics. so i chose another sub-industry of IT instead lol
Yeah, if they have to create the engine rather than modifying one
Ah, nah i suck dick at math, but im still here in electrical engineering
well, i guess if you compared me to my peers. A lot of them solely go to school
I work and go to school fulltime so i can't study as much
i mean it goes all the way down to assets as well. like every game studio out there probably has a completely different way of having a character throw a grenade. its kinda silly when you start thinking about the fact that the same thing in different games is probably radically fundamentally different behind the scenes
that sounds like not much free time left lol. i couldnt imagine doing a job when i was in university full time
tfw calculus makes u have to switch careers 
best system 10/10 would go to college again

Wheres a good place to have rap battles?
oh no i just decided to not do something i knew i wouldnt be good at @hasty wedge
not the most practical sometimes
thats why you get yourself a calculator that can do the heavy lifting
oh...well, could easily be for me too LOL
then you just need to understand the concepts
Im awful at doing math, but i understand the concepts that my calculator skills get me through
How do I add a sign to let people know im streaming?
you could slap a avatar with like
'im streaming' or even classy with a camera with a light turned on
I saw someone with a selfies stick
Yea, and there's that streaming new crew that goes around
Anyone else having problems joining worlds?
i just press menu choose a word and say join
sooo any fix for the "pushing those upload speesds" glitch. i just finished working on an avatar and dont wanna restart
https://i.imgur.com/FgwIank.png
Made a TLDR guide for the anti-piracy measurement. Should be pretty self explanatory, set OriginalBasisShape to 100 on the skinned mesh renderer component and use NewMouth shapes for visemes/eyeblinking
It doesn't show in blender, but for unity you need to create those new shapes from mix. Otherwise when visemes activate the mesh transition between the "exploded" state and normal looking, which obviously looks bad and is undesirable. @polar rose
interesting. is there something that masks these blendshapes from being available to avatar "pirates"?
Just doublecheck before uploading that you can activate OriginalBasisShape and NewMouth shapes at the same time in unity without the mesh exploding
When ripping avatar files from cache via the common ripping programs, blendshapes are tough, if not downright impossible to rip
So you can use that to your advantage
Obviously it's not 100% secure but it works flawless against the common tools
that's good info to know. in an ideal world, all we'd need now is for the VRC team to make it so that the game modifies your blendshapes in this fashion, if that's possible.
but i imagine this is something that probably needs to happen at the blender stage and not as far along as the game
This process could probably be automated with a blender plugin
having an "anti-piracy" button on CATs or something would be godlike.
I need to work on other stuff, but until I get around making that video please do let other people know about this and confirm it actually works great
definitely, i saved your image and will pass it around my circles/groups
So far I've talked with a friend and he said he couldn't rip it, but I want to know the flaws with it and check with more people first
So I don't go around saying this works great, when it might have a gaping hole somewhere in it
gotcha. well at least it's something promising
i'm too lazy to do it to my existing avatars so i'm probably just going to dis-use my super personal ones in pub lobbies, shove a nametag on everything, and make some other fun avatars.
Other than blendshapes, shaders are super hard to get aswell
So if your avatar highly depends on a very unique shader to look proper, then that's one way too
Anyone know Lewd.chan? I love two of his or her avatars but only way to get to his or her avatar world was the hub and that doesn't always show it.
sadly no
psst hey is there someone here who goes by fighting blaze on vrchat
Someone's called that in here, you can DM them and check if they're the person you're looking for.
Might need scroll quite a bit to find them though ->
Movies, most of the time, exaggerates stuff.
It's not because the movie was bad. It's because I loved the movie so much that it made VRC seem like a rip off of the Oasis
it's because their avatars had more polygons
I wish that someday the polygon limit would increase, not by alot, but maybe just from 19,999 to 29,999
Heck, even 24,999 would be nice.
well
in movies they don't use Polygons
they use this thing I forgot the name of
it takes longer to render
In The Oasis you could do alot more than you can do in VRChat
What is a harmless April fools prank for vrchat?
telling everyone that anime avatars are against guidelines
I was thinking... pretending that you blocked everyone.
that'd set fire
New controlls for everyone ๐
everyone is turned into a knuckle
Harmless prank, give back old vive cobtrols
Lol but in all seriousness, disable avatars for everybody
That'll get a reaction
Thats how you get people hella sick
but it's a prank bro just a prank
Does someone know how to take screenshots in VRChat? Google says it's Menu + Trigger but it's now working. ๐ฆ
Which one are you using?
Windows Mixed Reality.
And which menu button are you using? The VRC menu or the steamvr menu button?
Ohh, there's this button beside the sticks. Give me a sec.
Ahh, couldn't post images.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/images/controllerimage-750px.png
There, the Trigger and Menu buttons described there is the button I'm pressing.
Oh if I do that it goes to the "Mixed Reality Portal." haha.
Trigger + Joystick press.
Here's something to help you: https://ayaldev.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/wmr.png
Oooohhh,, nice.! Thanks.! ๐ I knew I was doing it wrong. haha! Appreciate it Advert! Thanks.
Definitely. ๐
Does anyone remember the name of the world with
and a pirate ship or something?
What would you do if vrchat was Shutoff for Tuesday and Thursday?
I'd probably start working on my term papers.
Is there issue for upload world now? dialog is saying "Almost finished!!" but didn't close for long time.
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this is the best day ever
@bright star ยฏ(ยฐ_o)/ยฏ (Jereemo) well the years start coming and they don't stop coming
ouch man ;n;
hearing about this new thing in vrchat where people are trying to break your gpu
Huh?
basicly they are crashing peoples GPUs violently
my friend had it happen all of a sudden
Is this done in a ddos fashion
no idea
Thats crazy
his vrchat started to lag a lot, crash and his pc was slow asf
i told him to reinstall his driver to see if it fixes it
Did it work?
no word back yet
Huh? Good thing I just started to use the "block user avatar by default"
Just to make my audio not slow down
best turn on friend only avatar mode then find that person block him
It might be a corrupted shader tjat the compiter is forced to download for those avatars
Go into the crash log and Google the error code.
guys i have some info and pictures about 3 guys using stolen avatars an crashing people wirh 2 crash avatars
omg i hate people
yep my friend has done a disk clean up, reinstalled his graphics driver, his oculus stuff and it still lags to fuck
so either his headset or his gpu is fucked cause some asshole on vrchat has to ruin fun for everyone
Yea but thats not how games or computer parts work
Just because a game crashes does not mean the parts are scuffed
can confirm stolen avatars fro user: O.O stole mine but all my stuffs water marked any ways xD
Can report them with the google form in #moderation-reports
๐
I'm doing something extremely disgusting to one of my creations.
I guess you can read about it on the news soon enough.
Oh avatar stealing still a thing? The 'private' option didn't worked?
Never mind, I can't upload my world because of the infinite loading.
It's 4 in the freaking morning, so I spent this whole time for nothing.
Well, I'm gonna go now. Gotta get up in about 4 hours ASAP.
no not workin
@wind gate vive only need 2 base it best tracking over rift
just need setup them correct
Currently you can only use one or two base stations for vive. A third one won't work.
However when the version 2 base stations come out you will be able to connect pretty much how many you want, so you can have a whole house set up with them if you really want
Jeebus
I'm gonna trade and pay the difference for a vive and wait for valve knuckles
Oculus sensors too op
House-scale VR plus a computer backpack with VR... ๐คค
Zarn you're killing me
I'm just tryna' buy leg trackers but they are always sold out.
^ I want that too
Getting mine in 2 weeks
Getting 3 trackers
Nice
For VRchat you can only use one or three for full body
I'm in Canada. So it'd cost me like $400+ for 3 trackers
Hip plus each leg
Been waiting since like late January for my store to get them in stock
From vive site? They sell that fast?
Yeah everytime I go to the site they are always out.
I should check newegg
I don't think they have any on newegg.
Darn they don't sell trackers
I would just make sure to check the vive site every day. That how I managed to get trackers.
How do add props
Hey, i can't seem to upload my vrchat avatar, everytime i upload successfully it it doesn't appear under my personal avatars.
Make sure you don't have an old avatar ID attached in the pipeline manager also confirm in the "manage uploaded content" inside unity that it's uploaded @jade folio
@frank lichen oi there fella




