devouring their soul from a distance
#vrchat-general-2
tender sapphire
unborn gulch
UwU
F is fire that burns down the whole town used for uranium bombs
N is for no survivors when their...
tender sapphire
i got some pretty bad memes on my youtube already
unborn gulch
I can already imagine
echo comet
@unborn gulch why are u banned?
tender sapphire
hackerman
unborn gulch
VRSearch
Which I never installed on my computer nor knew about it till just a bit later
tender sapphire
talk to someone about that
tender sapphire
i hope you did email them tho because that's all you can do
velvet estuary
What's going on @unborn gulch on your end? Jw, I myself have been having issues trying to login to my account in-game, but can join if I go through Steam.
graceful parrot
i was with this knuckles who was clicking for celebration
tender sapphire
just mention me if you need anything. gonna go back to skool
echo comet
did notice a hack going on last night that said in bold later ( Ebtablish Connection)
front of my screen
letter*
worn ember
hate to ask, guess i don't stay up to date that well. What does vrsearch do? maybe i have heard of it just didn't remember the name.
echo comet
it just bring up a password u use to hack the game bassically
worn ember
ah so the same old thing, didn't really think it had a name.
unborn gulch
Apparently
I’m still pretty annoyed
Surprised I got accused of it
Or was one of them
worn ember
someone may have had your name, don't know
unborn gulch
Thats a first
I never knew someone would want to steal models I’ve downloaded from amazing creators and uploaded them to Unity
The funny part is how people actually hack in this game
worn ember
any time i even see a hacker i just leave, see them all the time.
unborn gulch
I never knew you would hack in a game that supposed to be for fun
echo comet
so u did do it @unborn gulch u told on urself
worn ember
I really don't see the point in even hacking this game.
smoky anchor
Do they just "borrow" the avatar or actually get the files
echo comet
get the files
worn ember
from what i hear they get the files now
echo comet
yeah u hack into the ip address on unity and steal the other person models and shit
spiral oxide
anyone trying to upload avatars we cant upload any
unborn gulch
@echo comet What? No
spiral oxide
me and 4 other people
smoky anchor
Someone copied my avatar like three weeks ago. I hope they don't have my avatar lol
unborn gulch
The website
worn ember
love this game, just sucks that the bad bunch have to follow along as well.
worn ember
the site or just people hacking?
modern sand
The site
unborn gulch
@echo comet I just said I never installed VRSearch
worn ember
alright
echo comet
alright
unborn gulch
You think I would cheat on VRChat after all the fun I’ve been having on it?
For avatars? Not worth it
echo comet
@unborn gulch well i mean u knew what it is first so who at fault here huh Cassie?
unborn gulch
I didn’t
smoky anchor
Even if I could steal avatars, i don't think I would because I like my avatars the best
worn ember
just wonder what people get out of hacking the game? like i see no real reason. Taking avatars instead of putting work into one just defeats the fun of it.
tender sapphire
Taxic did not know about the said cheat program existing until he was banned because of it
unborn gulch
@worn ember Avatars, people’s work, identity & etc
Like a lot actually
@tender sapphire Yeah
One of my friend told me what it was
Like 30 minutes after I was banned
Friends*
worn ember
well yeah, but there is no self accomplishment. just me.
tender sapphire
this means there's some sort of anti-cheat bug
echo comet
yeah Vrsearch
smoky anchor
It's not about accomplishing anything.its about annoying people
unborn gulch
I’m pretty sure someone just took my identity and it got me banned and ip banned
worn ember
don't think the game has a anti cheat. Thought it was just a report and one of the mods ban you.
unborn gulch
Nope
tender sapphire
possibly they took your identity and then reported you for having the same identity?
modern sand
@echo comet careful please
tender sapphire
i dislike this man's attitude
tender sapphire
ok
modern sand
No he can't lol
echo comet
like WTF, VrSearch is use to type the password in and u get them on the sever
unborn gulch
Lol
echo comet
there like of stuff u need to learn
unborn gulch
🤔 I’ve only had the game for 2 weeks
This is my first experience. I tried my best to stay away from cheaters
tender sapphire
i didn't know you could cheat until VRchat said you could
unborn gulch
I thought it was pretty stupid but, people do it regardless
And they try to bring people down with them
worn ember
They seem to be in almost every server, hard to stay away. Just what it seems like from all the time i have played.
unborn gulch
Well now I know
smoky anchor
I've only seen 2 of them on all the time I've played
unborn gulch
I’ve seen 1
worn ember
I've lost count, just kinda unlucky, but not i'd say taxic got it worse.
smoky anchor
Now inappropriate avatars is another story
worn ember
I don't mind that stuff
smoky anchor
I see those constantly
unborn gulch
Lol
tender sapphire
once i was told you could cheat it caused me to cheat every day from then on didn't change anything and i didn't notice anything different like there werent cheaters everywhere or at least not noticeable.
unborn gulch
Wut
smoky anchor
I mean like VERY inappropriate
unborn gulch
Now I can say I’ve mostly ignored that
unborn gulch
Haha
worn ember
i just block the cory houses lol. those i find annoying.
unborn gulch
That one is dead to me
tender sapphire
i hated it from the start
modern sand
I assume you guys report those to #moderation-reports and moderation@vrchat.com 
unborn gulch
Well I just joined this server
worn ember
I've only reported once. only because i was able to get video of it.
tender sapphire
nah. i've only encountered one Cory house and it wasn't that bad. i jsut hated it
modern sand
7pm
tender sapphire
noon 30
unborn gulch
Damn you stay on quite a bit
worn ember
They just get in the way, being so big and all.
unborn gulch
I like that
One of my friends was Cory in the house
I said “ Don’t make me block you “
@modern sand Who has access to the moderation email?
tender sapphire
@worn ember thats what she said happens
worn ember
Haven't seen it too much lately so i'm guessing it's pretty dead by now.
upper cedar
Can someone with vive tell me what the bottom pad gesture is?
tender sapphire
no
upper cedar
Very helpful
tender sapphire
thank you
worn ember
rockandroll
vocal shard
upper cedar
Really? I thought that was a combo gesture
vocal shard
Nip ^
upper cedar
Oh dang Ad-Chan ty
worn ember
it is for me, unless I'm just that one odd person lol
velvet estuary
throws Unity away
upper cedar
velvet estuary
Any of you know if there are sign in issues and etc in Unity when trying to sign into VRChat to upload avatars?
tender sapphire
Congradulations!
You have now thrown away a perfectly good copy of Unity!```@unborn gulch The only thing you need to worry about is if you sent an email or not, then wait.
tender sapphire
you will never know Yes
unborn gulch
Cat xD
boreal violet
cats and boxes, well know fact 😉
unborn gulch
Why do you keep doing that right?
gilded brook
On the new computer now and windows 10 is already annoying me.
unborn gulch
Wdym?
worn ember
my cat's like anything plastic. heaven forbid you leave a plastic wrapper out.
tender sapphire
to be fair, it actually takes a very high IQ to understand Windows 10
unborn gulch
Lol!
gilded brook
For some reason it doesn't like Irfanview
unborn gulch
So we all suck at Windows 10
gilded brook
totally glitched out
unborn gulch
Gg
tender sapphire
windows 10 is literally a re-skin of windows 7
unborn gulch
Imagine Windows 12
boreal violet
@gilded brook yeah its a bit of readjustment, came from win7, never even saw win8.
Upgraded for VR features
tender sapphire
however it comes with actually good antivirus out of the box
gilded brook
MSE was good
tender sapphire
windows 8 was BAD. i had to deal with that for 2 years
boreal violet
maybe i never messed with stuff in win7 enough since win10 seems off to me
gilded brook
Nobody cares about your onedrive microsoft when google drive is so much better
unborn gulch
Windows 8 made me die
tender sapphire
windows 8 felt like Android
boreal violet
I think this is the first time since windows 95 ive had a legit windows license
unborn gulch
Oh?
boreal violet
I never bought it, not that im against buying , i just never did before 😛
worn ember
lol
tender sapphire
I never pirate windows OS
*pirates games*
Not that i'm against pirating...```Lmao
boreal violet
win10 licenses were cheap and easy to pick up on ebay so i decided that the time spent wouldnt be worth pirating it
tender sapphire
when you try to download minecraft for free pc 2018 but it downloads a virus
OOoof
gilded brook
I pirated plenty of games and software when I was a neet
I don't do it much anymore now that I have an income
worn ember
yeahh i took the expensive way and payed like over $100, didn't bother looking for cheaper ways.
tender sapphire
oh yeah anime girls with animal ears nosebleed intensifies
worn ember
cat ears, got to be cat or fox ears.
boreal violet
the legit win95 was on a comp my mom bough subsidised through her job, that was just when i was getting in computers for real and ive built my own since then, always trying to squeeze the most out of the money i had
tender sapphire
not much of a difference between the types of ears. doesn't matter really
unborn gulch
Mmmmmmmmm
tender sapphire
MMMmm
boreal violet
cant even recall the last game i pirated, after i got a job ive just been buying stuff on steam for the convenience
unborn gulch
Mmmmmmmm
worn ember
........mmmmm toasty
boreal violet
except when the steam version have been more expensive than getting physical version
if a game wasnt a high priority i would just wait for a sale
tender sapphire
gotta love neko anime
worn ember
i don't really pirate, only time i did was for a game called starship troopers. but that was long ago.
unborn gulch
Yes!!!
worn ember
I'll take a neko lol.
unborn gulch
Same tbh
worn ember
ears and a tail. once it goes more then that it's a little off putting.
tender sapphire
there's a couple of exceptions to that sometimes
worn ember
yeah, there can be.
boreal violet
@worn ember was it the one based on the movies but with actual power armour? squad based action
worn ember
yeah, more like halo based copy.
just super soldier running around following the movie kinda just killing hordes of bugs.
loved the first movie so had to get the game.
boreal violet
first person shooter?
worn ember
yeah
boreal violet
oh, never saw that one
potent heath
I had a pirated version of win 7 and it was eligible for the free update to 10
unborn gulch
Lmao
boreal violet
i played one that looked down on a squad
worn ember
your going to drive yourself crazy waiting for that email taxic lol.
unborn gulch
@modern sand I was right on the email?
boreal violet
you could equip each soldier individually
unborn gulch
It was moderation@vrchat.com?
modern sand
@unborn gulch We don't comment on emails we receive. That is the correct email
worn ember
i like those games. i remember the avp one that they made, wish i could get ahold of that.
unborn gulch
Ok I’m just asking
boreal violet
I only played the first person AvP and AvP2, those were good
worn ember
loved the avp first person one, sadly the online servers were always pretty dead.
tender sapphire
check #general-media
tender sapphire
did you see what i said in #general-media ?
worn ember
overkill?
solid hound
They'd probably have to recode their whole system.
tender sapphire
complete overkill...
worn ember
i would assume a little hard. I don't know much about that stuff, but seeing the freedom we get i would guess it's a little hard to figure out.
hasty wedge
casual
worn ember
so like complete overkil as in?? full on animal furries?
hasty wedge
not knowing about vrchat esports
worn ember
yeah, but you get to upload your own characters and worlds. I would just assume.
tender sapphire
you have copyright still
unborn gulch
That name though
worn ember
well you know i mean. I'm not a game maker.
tender sapphire
it's just people can rip your models
because you have to load the whole file to have it in your game
because i'm not
worn ember
it's hard to block ripping, every game i know so far can be ripped somehow.
echo grove
👆
tender sapphire
when you upload your avatar you take that risk
echo grove
If it's digital it can be accessed sadly
worn ember
pretty much
prime marsh
or like, not think a free game is gonna offer intense encryption and security when they can barely handle server loads
echo grove
You can prevent it👍
If you don't upload there will be no files to steal
prime marsh
^
lilac swan
:O
tender sapphire
preach
echo grove
You know I'm right Zarni 😘
prime marsh
lmao, the sarcasm is well appreciated
lilac swan
Submitting new security protocol
worn ember
can't disagree lol.
prime marsh
do it, that would be a great idea honestly
tender sapphire
it's like posting a meme and saying "don't repost"
prime marsh
[2:16 PM] Cat: it's like posting a meme and saying "don't repost"
tender sapphire
why?
prime marsh
lookit, wow, I copied something, I guess we should not be able to copy things
shrewd star
my other account cant login wtf
prime marsh
it happens
lilac swan
Also, you can't die if you're already dead. Immortality achieved
worn ember
sadly that would kill the game for me.
shrewd star
game sucks at preventing stealing lel
tender sapphire
it's literally copying and pasting
shrewd star
game sucks at preventing stealing lel, what a turn off
tender sapphire
ok
prime marsh
copying=stealing; theyre interchangeable when were talking about digital items
worn ember
lol
prime marsh
did you know, fruit person, that copying is the highest form of flattery?
tender sapphire
i'm thinking gay?
prime marsh
lmao
tender sapphire
ok?
prime marsh
Cat in with the comebacks
worn ember
your thinking the right way
tender sapphire
amen
lilac swan
In my experience people who are not content creators themselves usually don't understand why you might not want someone to use your work without permission.
prime marsh
who delet things
tender sapphire
i'm not a content creator?
prime marsh
I personally havent 3d modelled but ive done a bunch of importing at this point
tender sapphire
if someone copies my youtube videos and puts them up, it's good
prime marsh
and if I did some cool animations/effects to a model, I would love to have others use it
the more people the better
tender sapphire
yeah. it's increasing your publicity
prime marsh
exactly
thats kinda the point behind avatar worlds you know
like, you go there, you see this cool world and then you use something someone else made
tender sapphire
oh no we're copying Ugandan knuckles we're so bad
hasty wedge
when u think about it its like importing others work and then u gaining popularity instead 🤔
tender sapphire
i bet the creator of Ugandan Knuckles hates us so much
tender sapphire
and then you wait, and eventually people learn the origin of that work
umbral reef
Never knew i can just scan any art work and claim it as my own
tender sapphire
I made the mona lisa
hasty wedge
i am not the creator of this PP but i am the character itself
someone made a pic of me without my permission
but its a gud pic
misty turret
Anyone ever have an issue where finger gestures get stuck on?
hasty wedge
are u going over frames?
umbral reef
@misty turret For animations?
If so its pretty much always that your animation is not a single frame long
misty turret
No it happens even when there are no "special" gestures. Like finger point etc
it get stuck as "default" instead of going idle.
Does that make any sense?
tender sapphire
banana
umbral reef
Still check the animations you got
Can be if they are like a second long any animation done (within a second after swapping off animation) could break
misty turret
Hmm ok will take a look.
sour willow
there was some smol apartment world that has tomato girl in a wheel chair with weird decimation but I can't find the world in browser
is it ded?
tender sapphire
Bob the tomato?
sour willow
from yuru yuri
empty sand
I don't get how people who take models made by others taken from a an ip they don't own complain about having their character taken :/
sour willow
kek
umbral reef
@empty sand I wonder you ever put the work into making one?
sour willow
I have
misty turret
Sub it could be that they did indeed add to the model - special animations, or gestures. It takes alot of time to get some things fixing. Just uploading a model is a bit of work.
gaunt granite
@empty sand Most people do ask for permission before (for example) converting a MMD model into an avatar.
empty sand
Most people yah roght
umbral reef
i have made models for peeps for fun that took over 4 hours just to get decimated without looking bad and then another 2 to just make it optimized and stuff
sour willow
I'd like to see how you got a statistic saying most people actually do ask for permission
umbral reef
@empty sand The models worth stealing have peeps behind them that care about shit and almost alway ask so yea
No one is gonna steal the most easy publickly to use model lmao
But to be fair, unless you know the work it takes to make a model for someone breaking the rules while being lazy to steal it isnt fun
Would be that someone went to your graduation day, got the same grades as you with the same title but payed nothing or never went to the school 👌
Just that he walked in the last day
sour willow
that's a pretty bad analogy just to describe how dumb it is for someone to be able to copy already stolen from some company's copyright models you put work into setting up for vrchat
tender sapphire
^^^
umbral reef
misty turret
Alot of MMD models allow use at along as you give credit too. Its a grey area for sure. But people should not be allowed to copy people's avatars in game regardless.
umbral reef
I found my stupid example fitting for how bad his reasons where
tender sapphire
who's?
sour willow
On contrare, people should be able to share their models via in-game methods and have an option to make them not sharable as well
tender sapphire
^^
umbral reef
@tender sapphire From the sub
misty turret
That is what I ment Chdata.
umbral reef
And im all for that yea
The idea of being able to save pedastol avatars would be just as great imo
sour willow
aka people should have a feature to copy people's avatars given a consentual setting
misty turret
I was refering to people hacking and copying ones.
Should people be using character models from other companies no, but neither should people be able to copy people avatars in game with out consent. Two wrongs doesn't make a right.
still cedar
none the less, the game wont really promote uploading original content until hacked clients are dealt with.
pseudo dawn
This is the first time I cleared my cache for VRChat since I started playing on December 27th. I had over 58 GB of data that built up in the cache, lmao.
sour willow
I still believe it's goofy to be too bothered by hacker copies - anyone who's put effort into anything worth stealing should have the knowledge to know that they can just reupload it and delete the old so the hacker loses the copy. If you know this and you're still bothered by it I can only call that unintelligent.
misty turret
Iron is oddly large and really wish I could assign it to another drive other then my windows drive.
sour willow
like sure the hacking is shitty, but you can do something about it
Also, if we had avatar sharing/saving, less people would be inclined to use some avatar hacking copy
still cedar
it's different now tho, now that they are able to grab it just using ur username.
umbral reef
@sour willow just unbinding the id doesnt fix it for some peeps from what i heard 👀
still cedar
U can reupload as much as u want, but u'll have to change accounts and shit if u wanna stop them.
misty turret
I am not bothered, but I still think it is a large secruity risk.
still cedar
until they find u again.
sour willow
ah that sucks then @umbral reef
still cedar
Kinda tedious having to make new accounts to keep ur original content tho.
sour willow
I don't see much in terms of security being risked from my avatar being stolen, tell me when they hack everyone's passwords
still cedar
But i guess it's just generally a bad idea uploading original shit while the game is in this state.
sour willow
not really
misty turret
What if you fully made your avatar CHdata...
sour willow
why let some hacker prevent you from uploading stuff when the hacks are likely to be inevitably patched
still cedar
Do u actually make anything?
sour willow
Yes I do
misty turret
Model, rigged, textured.
sour willow
I don't do 3d modeling but I've done most of the other stuff
still cedar
ight u dno what it really means to have patent on something that could potentially be sold.
sour willow
People are going to sell vrchat models? damn
still cedar
That's not what im saying.
tender sapphire
you have copyright on your model
unborn gulch
Jesus what did I miss for an hour?
smoky anchor
@unborn gulch same here
still cedar
If ur willing to understand, the content u make, u can sell to 3rd party game creators.
sour willow
My bad I was imagining mmd models, not actual selfmades
tender sapphire
@unborn gulch a whole hour about ranting about stealing their models
unborn gulch
Ugh
still cedar
It's only a question of time before they start exporting our avatars from the client.
sour willow
But if you're making actual game assets you plan to sell in your own game, it's unlikely that you'd want to upload them to vrchat
still cedar
That's what im saying.
sour willow
derp
still cedar
. . .
sour willow
Yeah, and you're only talking about full selfmade models here
still cedar
Funny how this was where people were disagreeing before. now it's flipping back on myself. wut
tender sapphire
they are doing what they can to stop the ripping but it's a free game so expect nothing and don't trust anyone
still cedar
It's like ya'll didn't read haha
sour willow
What I'm saying is that you shouldn't really let some guy hacking your copy of a kanna avatar you're already ripping off of another copyright with your own crazy particles and stuff
shouldn't let them stop you from *
that sentence is butchered
tender sapphire
do not upload models you do not want stolen. instead, make a simpler version that is different from what you want to keep
still cedar
I like where this is going
no reason for creativity or originality at all.
This will turn out great.
Everybody will be Kanna
👍
sour willow
nice strawman
still cedar
Is it wrong?
safe prism
oh. it's you.
tender sapphire
hi Nyano
still cedar
whats that supposed to mean.
safe prism
hi neko-chan
tender sapphire
yay
still cedar
@sour willow yeah it was a pretty good joke, i've never seen it before 🤡
misty turret
Chdata again it is the issue of them being able to do that to people who make 100% oriignal content.
tender sapphire
like Pewdiepie?
people have trouble getting words out
@echo grove SPEAK ALREADY
sour willow
And I already agreed that that's pretty shitty for people actually doing that
echo grove
@sour willow you mentioned people selling vrchat avatars being a suprise, there is a discord server with over 2k users filled with people making and selling avatars 🙂
@tender sapphire wait what?
tender sapphire
you were typing for 10 minutes
echo grove
Must have left a character in the chat window 😅
tender sapphire
oh
sour willow
My wording was bad, I know people sell model ports a lot, but we were talking about someone uploading a model to vrchat that they plan to use commericially elsewhere
tender sapphire
stupid idea
sour willow
^
echo grove
@sour willow it's more than ports over there, people model things from scratch
wild mulch
You can sell something to someone if it is your own work
sour willow
I know... and?
tender sapphire
i feel like we're all arguing for the same thing again...
echo grove
Sorry 😅 your wording made me assume that you thought people only sold ports
echo grove
:kissing_heart:
tender sapphire
does anyone have details about the marching band of cats?
smoky anchor
What do you mean
sour willow
they have a discord, I found it through loli army, but it's probably in their world
tender sapphire
what-where-how @smoky anchor
vocal shard
Don't they have their discord link in that world?
tender sapphire
hopefully someone knows the name of the world
sour willow
cat marching band
tender sapphire
thats it?
smoky anchor
Look up cat
sour willow
kitty cat land
tender sapphire
Cat brings up one world with two cat avatars and a mirror
tender sapphire
ok thanks.
when you ask about information but you're not actually on vrchat at the moment
viruses are actually latin poision
smoky anchor
Do you think vrchat will ever implement a setting that will stop people from walking up in front of you while you are in the menu and blocking you
random terrace
quick finch
Thank you VRChat Mods for that announcement! It goes a long way as a show of support for your community to publically aknowledge our concerns 😃
high lava
😂
vestal musk
What do people mean by stolen? Like, just copied or actually taking the avatar from your game and making it unusable by you?
vocal shard
thin sandal
Funny
high lava
I don't even make models anymore. Won't be till security gets better.
sly veldt
@smoky anchor yup it's on the list to get done
smoky anchor
I will thank you
thin sandal
Do you guys feel a revamp of the upload system is in order?
stoic pike
Charge people $10 to play, please. We need some kind of paywall to add gravity to the effect of bans.
10bux aint' much but it's more than zero.
smoky anchor
@vocal shard Do you mean thanks to hackers
polar rose
with the amount of false positive bans ive seen/heard of in the half-a-week i've been watching the discord. no thanks.
smoky anchor
That is not vrchats fault
molten nest
Is it safe to play vrchat
stoic pike
I don't trust individuals when it comes to claims regarding false positives. I'm sure they exist, but I'm sure 9/10th of them are smokescreens for bad behavior.
thin sandal
People who say they were wrongfully banned usually are banned for good reasons
smoky anchor
It's the players fault
white saffron
safe & vrchat
thin sandal
And my dick
stoic pike
Ha.
molten nest
🤔
lilac swan
True. If you play VRchat you might never want to stop, which will eventually result in death. 👀
molten nest
Hmmmm
thin sandal
/s
molten nest
Risky
tender sapphire
people import NSFW models
vocal shard
You will be selling your soul to mods/admins/devs once you start playing.
vernal totem
is there any incentive for not getting banned? cant they just make anopther account?
hushed galleon
I think they should have a NSFW vrchat client
stoic pike
Whatever, man. Paywalls keep a lot of the trash out.
hushed galleon
for those who wish to partake in that sorta stuff
molten nest
Too many people doing stupid stuff on this game
stoic pike
Kosaki, what do I have to gain from convincing you of anything?
sour willow
getting banned is pretty hard, this game is really fun
molten nest
Did anyone see the video that was just made of someone stealing avatars
tender sapphire
link it
molten nest
Like 2 days ago
stoic pike
Ha, yeah. The important* thing is their CCO saw a user beg to pay money for something that's currently free.
😈
molten nest
Harekuin made it I don't wanna link it here if I'm not allowed
thin sandal
You're not banned lul
tender sapphire
@gritty arch you have to manually select a lobby with players in it. you're not banned
gritty arch
i did
thin sandal
This time with feeling
gritty arch
okay
tender sapphire
the ones that are 25/30 not the ones that are 453
molten nest
I'm sure this guy is reported
tender sapphire
kill me
molten nest
I hit 200 in like 2 weeks
gritty arch
oh it worked now, i guess it was my client running on an older version because an update just came for me
smoky anchor
80% of my time is in blender. 20% is vrchat
tender sapphire
blender is too confusing. i'll stick with Unity and SketchUp
molten nest
80% of the time I spend in the otaku bedrooms
modest halo
i suck at blender i just know the basic stuff 😫
inland bear
hey guys so i have latop and i just got the rift i have audio on my rift but no display
anybody know what to do?
tender sapphire
make sure it's a VR rated laptop
inland bear
laptop specs i7 770hq 16gb ram gtx1050
smoky anchor
That works
safe glen
Thank you VRPill, we needed that announcement
Glad to know they are working constantly on it
tender sapphire
someone help him i dont have the knaawledge
smoky anchor
I have the vive sorry
tender sapphire
same difference
smoky anchor
Does the rift have a light that tells you it's working
glacial reef
yes
inland bear
there is a orange light
glacial reef
white = active orange= inactive
inland bear
when i put it on the light goes away
glacial reef
it should flick to white and stay on you just don't notice it
lilac swan
http://www.spacex.com/webcast
5 minutes until SpaceX's first test launch of their rocket, if anyone cares. 👀
tender sapphire
first time i played VR i was stuck on the oculus and everyone else at the convention was just watching me
opaque hawk
man I remember those old oculus dev kits and how blurry they were.
tender sapphire
i was supposed to be playing a scary game but i jumped a fence and broke the game
opaque hawk
I go to GDC every year so I usually get to try the cool vr stuff on the expo floor
tender sapphire
when i think back i probably spent too much time on the headset when other people could've had a turn
smoky anchor
I bet everyone did the same
unborn gulch
Hell yeah
tender sapphire
you'd be depressed for a decade (i don't actually know much about the game besides the scary parts)
uncut trail
morning all
signal thunder
Hello hello hi
vocal shard
is there a fast way to remove polygons?
timber pike
Decimating
earnest harbor
decimate the hair first, best way to lose polys without ruining model quality, unless you are horribly over the poly limit
visual sand
Get CATs for easier decimation especially MMDs
desert patio
why would I have to install steam vr like once a week? like its just gone and I have to keep re downloading it..
earnest harbor
also delete the stuff in the head, such as extra eyes, mouths, blush and ect
tidal aspen
select the whole mesh and delete it
earnest harbor
and glasses...
tidal aspen
bam 0 polys
charred scroll
north socket
How do I get to the World Finder? I cant find it through search
shrewd star
why cant i login to my alt account?!
vocal shard
discord?
shrewd star
vrchat
torn cape
Also, gotta wonder, are there any performance optimizations planned?
vocal shard
performance optimizations are being worked on
torn cape
sweet!
surreal roost
there needs to be some kind of age demarcation in this game I stg, there was some 9-year old kid wandering around and a hentai cube came in
uncut trail
Hoping they improve the WMR for VRchat
vocal shard
it's almost impossible to make a strict age rule without making the community tightened
age demographic statistics per server?
Age limit is 13+.
umbral reef
lmao shit still relies on parrents
lean pivot
surreal roost
looks real stringent to me lmao
umbral reef
Not sure if people forgot but its not like games are daycare centers for kids that should not be on websites/games they are to young for
Its just bad parrenting and not paying intrest in what they do
shrewd star
Has anyone seen a penis coming out of the ground lately?
vocal shard
shrewd star
someone has a giant penis coming out of the ground avatar
surreal roost
I kind of wish there'd be like hey, here's the teen zone and here's the adult zone cause I'm unsure if kiddos should be mingling with thirtysomethings
shrewd star
they should make an adult zone like in second life
shrewd star
I left second life because the performance was so bad
not talking about the servers performance, it was just visually lagging all the time
surreal roost
damn that sucks 😦
tacit plank
Ever played IMVU? My computer sucked when I played it, but still, it would freeze for seconds at a time
hushed galleon
KAH KAAHH GAAYY
surreal roost
never played IMVU, this is pretty much my first rodeo with social games
floral quiver
Mine usually runs alright ish at 15 simetimes 25. I get lag but recently. Iv just been dipping below 10
vocal shard
1 fps club
floral quiver
I cant get a better PC so im stuck with this much fps. Iv even changed the setting for vrchat
uncut trail
I'm stuck with 960 GTX Nviada graphics card yet still able to play VRchat
mellow pilot
Guys, please be careful in game if you have custom made avatars... There is someone running around stealing others hard work and using it for themselves. I have video footage.
floral quiver
I had that happen one day. People just have no respect for people's work
floral quiver
My friend made an avatar i wanted. And somebody takes it
vocal shard
floral quiver
Also yesturday someone did disturbing stuff. First they flashed everyones screen white. Then they showed alot of innapropriate images
mellow pilot
Yeah @floral quiver that was because of me...
Someone was trying to get my twitch channel banned.
Already got ahold of the devs for that.
vocal shard
When those happen, go to invite only instances.
floral quiver
I got a headache from it
mellow pilot
I apologies for anyone and everyone who had to go through what I went through.
And I did @vocal shard
tacit plank
Is it still impossible to see the menu when it happens?
It's possible to navigate to a world without looking I guess, but it's not easy
floral quiver
When it happens i couldnt see the menu
tidal aspen
is there no limit on the render queue for shaders?
visual bear
2 different rooms someone doing the ransomware spam
tacit plank
Could add a custom keybind for "panic button" which goes to your home world
vocal shard
would it be possible to make your own makeshift menu by putting objects above the menu, but you can still press on it because it's touch through
not for the 2d one
tacit plank
On Desktop you can code a macro to move the mouse and change world
mellow pilot
@tacit plank I was streaming... If I took my hands away from my eyes, I would of gotten banned from all the bad pictures.
tacit plank
That sucks Twitchin
vocal shard
so youre saying it's possible
tidal aspen
yeah if there's not limit it's really easy to make things overlay the menu
tacit plank
Could overlay it with a picture of the menu screen so that you can still use it
lyric nebula
Aarghh fucking idiots are gonna make us end up with shader restrictions
Which is no fun at all
tacit plank
Could add a "restrict shaders" option, like there's a "personal space" one
And let people decide the restrictions themselves
lyric nebula
There’s really not a lot of ways to do that, you’d have to whitelist and every shader is unique if you write them yourself
Yeah that might be possible ian
tacit plank
I like that idea ian!
Anyways, I'm off to bed
uncut trail
I would LOVE to see Window Mixed Reality get some support 😦
earnest harbor
it is supported, just not a good platform for vrchat
quiet prawn
If it works, go for it
pseudo dawn
Why is there only the option for 1920 x 1080 for resolution for VRChat now?
I remember being able to put it lower not too long ago.
Now my VR experience is getting a bit laggy again.
vocal shard
Hello ~
Somebody can help me about why the most VR games lagging anf freezing with my oculus rift ?
I mean the steam vr games
coarse crest
What are your system specs?
soft turret
hey same
vocal shard
Vga: geforcebtx 1050 TI 4g
compact bluff
hi
vocal shard
looks like the steam vr is kinda buggy when I want to play with the VRChat
Hello ~
some reasone is getting freezing and the screens is froze and i can move out my head in the dark space.... =_=)"
Anything else work well and awesome but the VRchat is the only one what i can fix it 😛
I play that before the with my mobile vr and its work well not even a single lagg ....
but now is absolutly freezing and seems like the two vr program want to work at the same time ...
worthy pollen
server broke?
brittle fern
login is broken indeed
lone tundra
brittle fern
it works again
buoyant willow
just give it some time
high spire
Anyone know how to make the Camera in Avatar Test world to freeze frame?
wet vector
no, but if you want still images you could use iris ai photo studio
soft turret
you need someone to press the camera button on the wall by the mirror
minor hound
hi
unborn gulch
O_o
vocal shard
rippo omni
unborn gulch
I'm very bored tbh
wispy scarab
Someone told me to ask in here, supposedly there's a Runescape model Discord that I should join, is anyone here in it?
vocal shard
Are they ever going to increase polycount? Just curious.
Like, I do comissions and it is really hard to make a model from scratch under the polycount T.T but I manage every time
white saffron
No until they randomly decide to
vocal shard
Mhm, or maybe 30k
white saffron
100k!
vocal shard
No confirmation on poly count increase.
They should limit materials, not polys because you can adjust how many materials are on the model and therefore drawcalls each cpu uses. You know? Then again I just make models and have no idea how the games engine works
cunning dagger
Hey, anyone know how to submit a crash log?
cunning dagger
Thanks
vocal shard
Wait, was it moderation or hello...
still quarry
why do i keep getting timed out when trying to login?
vocal shard
@cunning dagger It's support@vrchat.com, sorry.
visual zealot
prtobly cause servers patoot'd
cunning dagger
No worries, thanks
visual zealot
Cause I can't log in myself!
vocal shard
@rain oracle 🇫 
off
visual zealot
what is this, 1998
If you don't send it to at least 10 servers, he'll show up in your bathroom with a knife 
paper cloak
what the fuck lmao
vocal shard
Good thing @ everyone doesnt' work or there will be 30K people that are going to be mad at you.
cant log in 😦
Also, deleting that because copy pasta.
visual zealot
Frostwolf's gonna stab you 8 days and 4 hours from now
paper cloak
I love the concept of them "working hard to remove this user from our database"
fresh tiger
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
paper cloak
like what the fuck hahaha
visual zealot
bro, he's past the 7 proxies and is integrated with the digital mainframe
vocal shard
frostwolf is going to do something to you if you stay awake at 3am on discord
unborn cipher
Did Vrchat crap out?
spiral trail
@unborn cipher took me three login retries to get in the game just now
vocal shard
yes
small radish
the toaster started smoking
unborn cipher
Yeah, servers are having issues again.
vocal shard
did the window accidently close
white saffron
better work when im done work 
paper cloak
so I was going through and deleting old footage to free up space, and I found a video where I blocked this dude for following people around spouting horrible profanities. Then another video from a month later where "some guy who's voice I recognized" stole my avatar, and it's the same dude. Except judging by the number at the end of his name, it's his 5th account.
in the second video he's also speaking globally to the entire map, and has no avatar in the lobby
paper cloak
lol
elder skiff
Anyone wanna upload some avatars to my account for some dollars over paypal? Would be amazing concidering I've spent countless hours not getting anywhere. Thank you, please send me a dm 😄
paper cloak
go to the vrc traders discord
elder skiff
@paper cloak Thanks, I will do!
dense cedar
mfw I accidently learned how to do it.
vocal shard
candid marsh
m a d
whole lodge
If you have a witch hunt. Please take your pitchfork to their email
vocal shard
buT mY mESsAgE
whole lodge
If it isn't talk about big anime tiddies. I'm good 🍑
vocal shard
i chose an avatar and didnt realize i couldnt see my feet through my big anime tiddies
whole lodge
I had to use colliders to push them apart so I could see small people below me
Hilarious though
I'll stick to my fellas
And look at the tiddies instead of having them
Having them seems like work
vocal shard
opaque hawk
I once got called 3 headed lady because my avatars boobs were that big. No shame
whole lodge
Nothing wrong with giant boobs. As long as they look good.
Too much tiddy love tho. Not enough 🍑
indigo fern
^ what they said
dense cedar
I'm a man of thighs.
indigo fern
I'm a man of thin necks
opaque hawk
The beauty of this game is you can be anything you can craft
dense cedar
Ah, I see you're a man of culture too.
indigo fern
chokers are cute too
opaque hawk
crimson tendon
any guesses on the price of the htc vive pro?
thin sandal
Servers slow for anyone else?
tardy ridge
cant log in
vital ember
dense cedar
I want to ask for some people's opinions on if I should get the HTC Vive or Oculus rift (Or some other VR product)
Like what's good about HTC Vive? What's bad about? And same with the Oculus rift and other products, I've wanted VR for a while, but most things I've searched online are biased.
Also hope this is the right/okay channel to put this in.
white saffron
vive for ez large roomscale, oculus for controllers. imo
i just really like the oculus controllers
dense cedar
Plus HTC is like £600 for me.
white saffron
yeah and the vives more expensive
shrewd urchin
If I were to purchase either Vive or Oculus, having used neither one I would get the Oculus personally.
blazing trellis
i use WMR
shrewd urchin
I use WMR aswell
white saffron
Thats another decent option for the price
trail ridge
I've done 0 research on that, how does mixed reality even work?
dense cedar
That's why I wanted to know.
I liked the rift's controllers, but I dunno about HTC, all I know is everybody praises it.
dense cedar
True, so anything else? Like I'm seeing more for Oculus which is odd since I expected people to say more about HTC.
trail ridge
Might just be that more people have the Oculus, so more people to talk about using it
shrewd urchin
The controllers are one of the most important things for me and the Oculus controllers are just better imo.
still quarry
do the microsoft mixed reality headsets have controllers?
shrewd urchin
Yes
Although the current controls for VRChat with the controllers are a little wonky. Doesn't use the analog sticks except for driving in the little gokarts
dense cedar
Yeah, plus I like the look of the rift controllers more, sure I won't see it much, but the design and how I can assume it feels looks good.
white saffron
They fit the hand well
i also hear that the touchpads just isnt nice on the vive wands - dont know for myself though
dense cedar
I fear i'm more likely to hit something in my room with a HTC than an oculus controller.
shrewd urchin
You're probably just as likely to hit something. If you have a tiny room like I do, then it will happen all the time.
trail ridge
Gotta do the old Wiimote armspan swing thing
dense cedar
^
shrewd urchin
Just get google cardboard and rig up your old wii motes
trail ridge
Haven't gotten my Oculus yet, but I feel like I'm going to have more trouble with kicking things than swiping at things
dense cedar
You know, I feel like that is something I should do in the mean time.
Wii remotes...
shrewd urchin
I never have a full armspan of open room, it makes it hard not to hit things 😦
white saffron
i have enough room to move slightly
if i took out some things id have a large space though
but its a lot of work to do that
dense cedar
E f f o r t ?
shrewd urchin
My desk is in the middle of my room and I can't really move it. I made use of my small space as best as possible. Makes it harder for VR though
Still completely playable. I just have to check my surroundings a bit more than others.
white saffron
I could definitly make better use of all the space in my room
I have wall mounts for my sensors
didnt put em up yet
shrewd urchin
I have another desk that's only used for storage. Could be a bookshelf and save some room.
white saffron
cause again, work
trail ridge
Work is generally why a lot of things don't get done
dense cedar
Working hard, I see.
shrewd urchin
I wish I could be on Discord at work 😦
white saffron
I dont gotta do anything for another 15 minutes
vocal shard
hey what Vr should i buy?
white saffron
I work at a gas station and play my switch all day
shrewd urchin
Google Cardboard and Wiimotes
dense cedar
^
trail ridge
Think that discussion was just had, that's a pretty good takeaway from it yeah
dense cedar
Realisticly, it can depend.
white saffron
I went straight for an oculus myself
dense cedar
I'm going with oculus rift. :P
trail ridge
Depends on your wants, do you want your hands to feel good or do you want to walk around your room
shrewd urchin
Oculus is the one I'd choose
trail ridge
To me those seem like the two main factors
shrewd urchin
If you want to spend the least money then WMR
trail ridge
That too
vocal shard
i got $500
dense cedar
HTC is 599
vocal shard
anybody know the world with the hl2 models
dense cedar
feels bad
shrewd urchin
If you don't care about how much of that $500 you spend, then Oculus. If you want to save some of that, WMR
vocal shard
guessing vive is the best?
dense cedar
@vocal shard
Did you try searching stuff like "Hl2" and "Half-life"?
white saffron
theres no definite best
shrewd urchin
If I had to choose between buying Vive and Oculus, I'd still choose Oculus.
dense cedar
It's more of an opinion.
shrewd urchin
^
trail ridge
Preferences, I think in terms of specs they're negligible in difference
Don't quote me on that though
dense cedar
But if you're in england, go with the oculus.
Don't get scammed because they won't convert the price.
vocal shard
@dense cedar i tried that
I got A whole room with the center open space as my bed and computer setup is on opposite sides of the walls
just best thing you guys think
white saffron
Do you know the size of the room
some rooms are small.
and if youre spending 500$ max and want roomscale id go oculus
dense cedar
Just know you'll be expected to do effort.
vocal shard
well im 5 10 and if i lay down its about 2 of me from one wall to another
white saffron
lmao
vocal shard
so what about the windows mix reality vr set
shrewd urchin
With WMR you get worse controller tracking, but at a much cheaper price
shrewd urchin
Yeah
white saffron
oh really
shrewd urchin
I'm sure it's less accurate
white saffron
yeah
shrewd urchin
But you can
opaque hawk
I’ll know in a couple days how good wmr is
white saffron
tbh im very satisfied with my oculus
shrewd urchin
It asked me to set up roomscale at the start and laughed at me when my room was too small 😦
white saffron
it exceeded my expectations
vocal shard
so yall would say occulus is good
white saffron
I would
vocal shard
btw whats roomscale
near root
Oculus - small room
Vive - large room
vocal shard
im coming into Vr Blind
white saffron
playing with your whole room
shrewd urchin
Being able to walk around your room pretty much
vocal shard
so they said the new vr set is going to be a windows vr/pc hybird i wonder how would that work on vrchat
trail ridge
The ability to walk around your room basically- yeah
white saffron
not like sitting in a chair
opaque hawk
Yeah, oculus is good
vocal shard
0:
trail ridge
minimum play area needed for oculus is apparently 3ftx3ft, don't know what max is with 2 or 3 sensors off the top of my head
vocal shard
oh pewdiepie uses a oculus rift
cyan rapids
hey guys, does anyone know what this means by the bone has a length of zero?
vocal shard
I'm patiently saving up for that hyped vive pro
cyan rapids
vocal shard
btw is the foot tracker thing worth it?
shrewd urchin
I think WMR asked for 5ftx7ft
opaque hawk
I’ve demoed all the vr headsets besides wmr
vocal shard
o ok
Depends Senpai do you get a "KICK" out of it by being able to lift them up and down?
vocal shard
i was googling the other day and i seen the new full body vr set and how would that work in vrchat when it comes out?
they said you can actually feel the evironment
whoah that sounds amazing
quasi blaze
WMR needs 5x7ft to set up boundaries
white saffron
what
vocal shard
Yeah I saw that would be too scared to have it on for VR chat
trail ridge
First I've heard of this, what's it called?
white saffron
finally going home soon
vocal shard
Hey guys if someone touches me in the game I can feel it in real life "anime chick walks up and stabs me with her sword"
white saffron
maybe ill see one of you on vrchat 
byee
trail ridge
👋
vocal shard
o
shrewd urchin
Have fun not being at work
vocal shard
nice
shrewd urchin
I have to fast for a health thing at work tonight 😦 Not eating sucks
trail ridge
I'd be more impressed than terrified if a vr suit could mimic being stabbed