damn sigh dunno which brand to get tbh :(
#vrchat-general-2
uncut trail
versed cape
and if i do that it will prob get stolen
my personal opinion is the touch controllers > than full room tracking
and you can get a 3rd sensor for the rift to do full room for another $70 i think
finite trout
"I'm uninstalling,
if they can't clear up their own shitheap of unregulated garbage then that's their problem,
not mine."
- 1 Cheezy Gorlfren
grim hill
with vive out of the box tou can get room scale with the rift you neeed to pay extra
uncut trail
i dont like full room tracker
versed cape
hey cheese check it. this game exploded in size overnight
versed cape
there was no way for them to prepare for that
finite trout
I get that
versed cape
i promise you they're doing everything they can but it will take time for them to get caught up
grim hill
then i would go for the rift then if you are just going to be doing seated play
versed cape
ive only ran into issue with tracking in a few games
uncut trail
ooo hmm
finite trout
ye
versed cape
when i first got on vrchat if we saw 20 people in a room we were like holy crap lets see whats going on in there haha
grim hill
both have pros and cons i woud look up reviews on youtube for both so that you can decide what would be better for you
misty agate
Ok gotta leave for real now and good night guys
finite trout
the only problem i think is that using unity to upload models means people can put scripts on them
which is what allows for things like the hacked clients to get their hacked stuff in
maybe
versed cape
you can upload a script but it wont work
finite trout
not exactly
versed cape
i dont know for sure how the hacks are done but its not always an easy fix
even if it sounds like one
finite trout
You know the Loli Army, right?
versed cape
yes
vocal shard
Mhm
uncut trail
if occulus rift are now $599 right now i should get it !!
versed cape
ok so
there are scripts obv everything has to be told what to do and how to work but custom scripts wont work
thats a built in feature
versed cape
things would be a lot worse if you could
finite trout
we need to cut them off at the source
grim hill
the rift will be about 560 not including shipping
versed cape
im not sure, I think im gonna actually look into it
uncut trail
$560 that cheap af but lol
finite trout
lmao the only way to stop the hackers is to become one?
true timber
my rift is making really loud buzzing noises randomly, and it happens every single time I start steamvr
anyone know what's wrong? :X
versed cape
from the speakers or where from?
shy nest
maybe not in correctly? heard you can detatch them
versed cape
so im set to load into a room that plays a youtube video
true timber
I tried replugging both ends of the hdmi cable
uncut trail
@shy nest :) hey mate
versed cape
and for some reason it will sometimes play a sound like how you described instead of playing the video
true timber
it's weird cause i was in game and right after I hit to use this air hockey table it said my rift's HDMI disconnected
versed cape
could be one cause off the top of my head, oh wiat you said starting steam not vrc
true timber
and ever since I reseated it it's been buzzing
grim hill
@uncut trail it's up to you if you want on i would jump in and gram one
versed cape
did you try restarting your computer?
true timber
yeah ima try that right now
finite trout
Hey mello
shy nest
lol why'd you ping me? who are you
finite trout
I had an idea
grim hill
im heading off for a bit be back later
versed cape
yeah?
uncut trail
huh n9 ?
finite trout
what if someone downloaded the hacked client, and then told the mods what changed in the files
hushed bramble
Quick question, where do I post my crash reports?
I was told y the crash I was supposed to send them to a developer or something.
finite trout
use the support ticket system
versed cape
tthere is a pin in the bug report channel that tells you where you can report it
versed cape
anad send the file
uncut trail
oh deejay i was with best gurl while go
hushed bramble
uncut trail
lol aka falados
finite trout
Thoughts, Mello?
versed cape
figuring out how they are doing it is typically the easy part
its figuring out how to fix it that can be challenging
finite trout
I'm not a game programmer
Can't we just lock the folders the files that are edited are in?
versed cape
sometimes they can find holes in systems that are so deep in the code that it cant be fixed without completely recoding the system
hushed bramble
Where is the report located again? As in the one the computer made.
finite trout
Uggghhhhh
versed cape
there are a lot of possibilities.
finite trout
THe best solution to a problem is usually t he easiest one
but what's the easiest thing to do?
uncut trail
btw for long run vive pro is better ?
versed cape
they may be able to find an easy way to do it or it may be a difficult one
previous company i worked for we had a small mail bug in one of our games that would display mail notifications when there was nothing
but due to the way the mail system worked we had to literally recode the entire mail sytem and how it worked
old scroll
lol I made a world how do i get it published so people can search for it
finite trout
Yikes
I just wish i could help in some way
instead of twiddling my thumbs like an idiot going "Man i sure do hope it's fixed soon"
versed cape
typically players dont see the complexity of actually creating a game. another example in World of Warcraft players always asked blizzard to make the backpack you start with have more slots
finite trout
it sounds easy enough
just make the npc give a backpack with more slots than the starter one
but i bet there would be unforseen complications with that
versed cape
however they came out and said that they cant do it becaus eof the way the bag is implemented it is unchangeable without having to rebuild what ever it was buried in
exactly
it wasnt a replaceable bag
and you cant always just cut something out and replace it
finite trout
This is why i'm just a concept artist and not really a programmer
versed cape
a lot of the time doing that will cause other things to break, pretty much anything that it is tied to
finite trout
i do concept art and storyboard and that's where my job as a game designer ends
versed cape
the more fun stuff haha
finite trout
yea p much
versed cape
im not creative enough for that haha
finite trout
i took 3 classes in game design and wound up just playing around with spheres and cubes rather than actually making a game
Couldn't model, Couldn't Code
but i did concept art in all our group projects and o look at that i passed somehow
versed cape
i do like being unique though. thats why im so bummed about my model. took me so long to get ideas or find what i liked and then get it all working an dlooking good
i'd prob be more bummed about my current project though
def the most creative idea ive had
but not 100% on how to do it yet. i know of a way but im kinda hanging tight on it for the moment to see if i can think of an easier way to do it
tender smelt
I'm surprised the model stealing is still so rampant
versed cape
well gotta have some proof that it happened
they may not be able to detect whether or not someone is hacking or still developing a tool to detect it. so the only way to really prove it atm would be with video and screenshots of it happening
im probably just gonna start streaming to have my twitch auto record everything
so if it happens i know illl have video of it
and maybe ill get lucky and accidentally rebuild my stream lol
tender smelt
eck no mods came after half an hour, rip
versed cape
what happened liz?
tender smelt
Portal spam, i reported it a while ago and waited
versed cape
i personally would just take a ss /or short vid when something like that happens and submit a mod report
tender smelt
aight, although its blocking off an area, so I cant tell where they lead to or who they're from
I'm afraid to touch em
versed cape
they will be able to investigate the logs from the timeframe to see what happened
just give them as much info as you can
grand willow
Does anybody know if the creator of keyblade graveyard is in this discord?
versed cape
can try looking for his name, not familiar with the room/author myself
who wnats to make some hacker bait models with me and go hacker hunting lol
shy nest
hacker bait models
so literally any model because the hackers dont have the mental capacity to make one themselves
versed cape
yeah but you gotta make it look desireable/difficult to do
i got snagged 3 times today
vocal shard
oh are you talking about people stealing your avatars?
versed cape
yeah
vocal shard
yeah that's fucking annoying
versed cape
yes it is
vocal shard
i had my floating shopping list and crippling depression avatars stolen a few times
shy nest
my experience with avatar stealers is that they come up to me, take my avatar and show off that they took it as if it was some sort of great feat
you're talking about the lowest of IQ people here
versed cape
i have like 4 to 5 models i use regularly but i have 1 model that ive put the most amount of work into and thats the one they got me with all 3 times
they dont want just any avatar that can be thrown together in 10 minutes
vocal shard
fucking lazy ass bitchese
versed cape
but ill dupe some custom animations and stuff and throw it on a diff model to make it look deireable to go catch some hackers haha
video proof can get them IP banned
versed cape
hacker hunting vigilantes
shy nest
tfw its coming up on the third week since you uploaded a video of a guy boasting about editting the sdk to get high poly models but the video hasnt even been viewed by any sort of team member since you sent in the report
vocal shard
i have a quick capture system that lets me capture the last 5 minutes of gameplay
nvidia experience iirc
shy nest
seriously considering just pinging the guy since he is in this discord
versed cape
a hacker?
shy nest
nah a dude that has high poly models because he manipulated sdk scripts
shy nest
he shows an avatar that is "100k" polys and everyone in the group he was boasting to say their fps dropped to like 13fps while he had it on
vocal shard
what the FUCK
shy nest
he took it off after like 30 seconds because i guess he didnt want his crowd to lag out
vocal shard
for what purpose
it probably wouldn't look any different at like 40-30k
and 20k> would look only slightly different
for most models
shy nest
my guess was to lag people out when he wanted to
versed cape
a 100k model shouldnt be causing frame drops that high
rugged brook
it makes people notice you. positive or negative, it doesn't matter to them
as long as they stand out from the crowd somehow
that's what they care about
shy nest
well once it hits a month that this video hasnt been viewed ill just ping the guy on here and call him out
versed cape
i like to stand out from the crowd
shy nest
people praise reports for being quick but my experience has been anything but
rugged brook
now see, it's fine to want to stand out from the crowd, but there's also the factor of how you go about doing it
versed cape
i spent hours and hours and hours in unity and this discord to do it haha
vocal shard
i mean if i want to stand out i just use my three avatars that get the most attention so far
rugged brook
besting a limit intended to prevent people from making models that depress the experience of the game is not a very good way of going about it
vocal shard
"Floating Shopping List" "Buffsuki" and "Wheelchair Sayori"
versed cape
be careful about standing out right now if you dont want your work stolen
versed cape
3 times today for me
rugged brook
quadrupeds are a more advanced matter when making avatars. you're better off trying to get a biped humanoid wokring first
versed cape
first 2 times was the same guy though
few hours apart
idk if he just forgot that he took mine already
rugged brook
np
uncut talon
:o
versed cape
i was sad when i heard they can actually download the files
rugged brook
wait WHAT
mighty galleon
-pats sugar-
rugged brook
that's new to me
versed cape
i was uploading a 3d model of a potato in the place of my avatar to that avatar id
versed cape
a reliable source told me tha tthey can in fact save it
vocal shard
wew
shy nest
i remember a guy coming into #avatars-2-general and asking how he can use a .vrca file
rugged brook
sheesh, i might stay off of public worlds for a while, too. my avatar is uncommon since it's an unpopular touhou character
shy nest
someone thought it was sus so he deleted his posts lmao
uncut talon
Which Touhou character?
rugged brook
lyrica
versed cape
i was sad to hear it i was just annoyed having to upload so many potatos and reupload my avatar
vocal shard
good thing i made a new version of my wheelchair sayori avatar after it got stolen
uncut talon
Ah
vocal shard
mainly because i found a higher quality version of the model
rugged brook
only pre-TH10 kids remember her Kappa
mighty galleon
Never played tohou and never will
uncut talon
The models I get are supposed to be at the least uncommon to use (Mainly because people go to avatar servers anyway)
rugged brook
all I know is I haven't seen another lyrica
uncut talon
I haven't seen another with any of my few avatars except maybe one or two
rugged brook
apparently my friend found someone using the same mystia model that I'm trying to get right
so I won't be the first with that
versed cape
ugh
curiosity will kill me
just read something in the rules that i now want to know why lol
mighty galleon
Which rule
vocal shard
i'm just surprised i never seen another floating shopping list
other than the guy who stole it the other day
rugged brook
oh yeah, I saw that and thought it was a bit odd too
vocal shard
that's oddly specific
rugged brook
my best guess is that it's severely outdated
uncut talon
Hmm...
versed cape
i would guess it can probably be used for something malicious
uncut talon
Yeah...
versed cape
man but MMD models are just so well done and so much easier to work with
versed cape
oh fyi you can walk backward through portals and it wont port you
shy nest
also, if they dont lead anywhere they dont do anything from my experience
mighty galleon
-hugs sugar-
vocal shard
oh
versed cape
but when going through a large amount of them it is possible to trigger
rugged brook
yeah, i remember figuring out that trick
rugged brook
didn't know it would help me best portal trolls
vocal shard
tfw the portals blocking the spawn
versed cape
or think of it as an adventure and see where you end up lol
vocal shard
i don't know about you but i don't want to be randomly teleported to uganda
rugged brook
yeah, some people don't like their models being used willy-nilly
I check the readme in every model and run it through google translate to figure out the perms
bleak igloo
well, it IS copyright infringement...
vocal shard
that's why you gotta check if it's okay to edit them
rugged brook
lmao, no it isn't. no one can copyright these models
bleak igloo
nevermind that most of them are infringing the design copyright first.
vocal shard
all of the mmd models i have ported so far have allowed editing
rugged brook
especially since the franchise is already copyrighted
vocal shard
yeah it sucks
versed cape
eh
vocal shard
but ey i respect people's boundaries
versed cape
if you dont want your model used openly then dont openly distribute it
rugged brook
here's the thing. You respect the permissions that the author requests of you, and they'll respect you back by continuing to make their models
vocal shard
^
bleak igloo
exactly
rugged brook
you break that trust, they'll just stop
versed cape
i follow rules in regards to not editing or changing things on someone elses work
rugged brook
the worst I've found so far is "do not use for commerical purposes"
versed cape
i agree i respect those rules but just plainly saying dont use on vrchat, why?
rugged brook
probably because they have a personal vendetta against vrchat
and given ugandan knuckles
i can kind of understand that
bleak igloo
Because some of them find someone using their character as a skin, not as the character itself creepy?
rugged brook
that's another factor
vocal shard
i mean i dunno it gets funny when a deep voiced manly guy uses a small loli character
versed cape
i think thats a bit silly
vocal shard
like the other day i was using Nico Yazawa from Love Live with a Duke Nukem voice
versed cape
however, if you want somehting restricted you need to restrict it and not just ask for it
vocal shard
though nico's not a loli lmao
versed cape
its the internet
rugged brook
well, that's the thing. no one has to
shy nest
like legit, there is an mmd locker for a reason
totally blocks any attempt to put into blender
rugged brook
it's purely a matter of unrestricted ethics, which anyone familiar with society knows is fickle
versed cape
but where are the ethics when discriminating against a single community
shy nest
you can try to unblock it but the "fix" to "unblock" it still screws up the port into blender
bleak igloo
fact remains, while the imagary of the character modeled belongs with the franchise, the new work with effort placed in creating a 3d model of said character has its own legal copyright. (unless it is a game rip... I'm talking from base parts here) and the only way we legally use it is if we fit with the authors rules.
versed cape
there are a lot of toxic people here for sure. but there are def alot of awesome people here too
rugged brook
well, the fact that you're arguing against it proves that it's a matter of ethics
a point of disagreement about what is "right"
versed cape
very true tess. but its not exactly something able to be monitored. i try to follow an authors rules out of respect ive personally never seen one listed dont use in vrchat though
rugged brook
and while some of it might upset me, i don't get angry about it. rather, i'm fascinated by how the different communities interact with each other
shy nest
the mmd community is odd, generally all models are a mash of other peoples models so... e.g hair from one base from another, eyes from another ect ect
versed cape
not saying either is right
bleak igloo
ethics be ******. american and international law is the point I'm making. If my ethics were against it, I probably would have put more effort into finding the author of my skin.
versed cape
just saying that you cant throw food in front of a bunch of starving people and say dont eat it and then turn your back and just expect it to not be eaten
rugged brook
copyright is a legal process, tess
you can't just make something and have it be copyrighted
rugged brook
try arguing that to a court
versed cape
you ahve to be able to prove it tess
errant merlin
What are the chances of finding love in VRChat? 
shy nest
about 1%
bleak igloo
(source... hours of lectures on interlectual property rights some years ago)
versed cape
nah
rugged brook
depends on how desperate others are and how charismatic you are
versed cape
honestly you could find love in vrchat
errant merlin
I'm not desperate, I'm just curious
versed cape
i did in world of warcraft lol
rugged brook
my answer was half-joke anyway lol
bleak igloo
and you are also right on the proof side though... which is why companies love using "found"/"orphaned" images on their websites.
errant merlin
If it's even possible
versed cape
we're not together anymore but we moved in together and almost got married
errant merlin
Since everyone is pretty much roleplaying
rugged brook
well, yes, actual love is just as possible on vrchat as it would be in a regular chatroom
versed cape
meeting people online is always a crap shoot though
rugged brook
of course, that would require getting past the RP part (unless that's what you're into)
versed cape
watch the show catfish
errant merlin
Into RPing?
versed cape
lol
rugged brook
ever heard of furries?
errant merlin
Uhh.. who doesn't
versed cape
yeah
rugged brook
that's what i mean by "into the RP"
errant merlin
They wear fur suits and end up accidentally fucking their sister
versed cape
i dont understand it but hey if thats your thing
rugged brook
their love revolves around the RP sense in many cases
versed cape
everybodys got their own fetishes
rugged brook
i suppose i should disclaim that I'm talking about the serious furries
not the ones that unironically have an avatar on the internet and nothing more
versed cape
ive alwyas wondered if the majority is due to being attracted to animls or just the rp of it
but i dont judge, you do you haha
rugged brook
¯_(ツ)_/¯
versed cape
one of lifes great mysteries that ill never find out
rugged brook
it's all a matter of perspective
one's sense of reality is a construct
thus everyone's perception is different
therefore, what makes sense to one may seem like madness to the other
versed cape
indeed
versed cape
its difficult to fathom other peoples perspectives as well. like i sure cant fathom why you'd wanna be a furry or be attracted to that but im into things that im sure someone would look at me and think the same thing
well i think i may get on vrchat for a few with a potato avatar and see if i can still make friends
SoliuS is my in game, feel free to add if you want
uncut talon
I'm Nikkitine in-game; Might get on for a bit, too. I usually just hang around at the Pug
rugged brook
in-game name is the same as here
i'm still trying to figure out how to get these dynamic bones to function acceptably, so i'm not gonna be on anytime soon
uncut talon
Alright :o Good luck!
Be sure to add colliders when you can as well, those are really useful
uncut talon
Oh jeez
rugged brook
basically, the dynamic bones are positioned just right that the lower appendages go straight in between them
requiring massive radii for any sink to work
full tiger
Anyone down for a marching cat band raid?
bleak igloo
wish I could but I've got to go to work now.
Have a good day all!
toxic comet
So I seem to be having a camera issue
My camera in vrchat is a couple feet above my character, but the camera in unity is in the right spot
versed cape
theres a tiny white ball that is floating in the air near your model when you select it
that ball is the representation of where your in game camera will be
in your avatar descriptor the first thing is your "View Position"
toxic comet
wait where would the ball be? unity? or in vr-chat?
toxic comet
<post DM fixing>
thanks for the help, now I can know to fix that from now on, including whne I get the model I ripped from a game to work
sharp condor
anyone have tips on adding audio to an animation?
there has to be a way to script it like you script any other transformation or rotation, right?
vocal shard
Right click on heirarchy -> Audio -> audio source -> Stick it in one of your bones
void echo
anyone else getting weird audio direction stuff ingame?
like sounds coming from the wrong direction?
vocal shard
Werp, that's a bug and lots of people have been having that.
Renatus, you need to stick it in one of your bones, peferably the hips, spine or chest.
sharp condor
ah ok
should I make the volume lower than 1? or will it be ok at 1
I don't want to hurt anyone's ears
soft patio
try 0.6 or 0.7
vocal shard
If the audio source is still the same as before, 0.2 is already loud so try around that much.
sharp condor
alright
are these settings good? I only want it playing when the emote calls for it
https://prnt.sc/i7k2wo
vocal shard
Change the range of it as well.
lean mortar
.>
vocal shard
The orange/blue sphere indicates how large the rand of it is.
lean mortar
good morning
vocal shard
Morn' 
sturdy cove
The audio sources do sound really quiet lately. And everyone tend to set soundfx to 40% or so... Usually most of effects you make will be really quiet. I have to ask people to turn their soundfx to 100 most of the time so they will be able to hear the effects lol
sharp condor
so I should keep it at 1?
also I have the two sounds i want on the chest, what Property do I add to the animation timeline?
icy thistle
help! there no other players online!
jolly blaze
That just isn't true
icy thistle
How do I fix this?
south citrus
Check if client is uptodate?
jolly blaze
check integrity
jolly blaze
Yup
thorny sparrow
Is eye tracking still broken atm?
coarse blaze
Either with insane amount of animations or earrape sounds
sharp condor
yeah I ain't about that
I just want my guy to grunt and then make a punch sound when he punches
hearty cosmos
Does anyone have a dva model that can pose with me :D
icy thistle
i've validated them and still nothing
hearty cosmos
I wanna take photos with them
icy thistle
you forget to make it humanoid
jolly blaze
weird
coarse blaze
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 4437 users in VRChat currently
icy thistle
how do i fix this?
jolly blaze
very weird
pastel glade
does a user report require proof material?
icy thistle
it works now i guess now i have to select an instance every time i click on a world
north socket
I cant change avatars with the avatar pedestal
north axle
I almost can't believe it, Uganda isn't on the front page of "Active" worlds anymore.
It's always been here even during the peak hour in EU time zone.
hasty cedar
I swear
if someone else has done a tamamo no mae avatar yet
kill me
I swear this is the first
hasty cedar
it matters cause I put 8 hours of work into getting it to work
and I'm gonna be suprized if anyone else has done it yet
untold bloom
I've spent days on a model before and someone's done it
cunning rivet
I had a model from a world named Supreme Avatars I would regularly get (the Neptune school uniform) but that world seems to be down now, as well as some others I'd liked. Does anyone know how I might be able to get that model again, or possibly find it to assign as my default model when launching the game?
sorry if this wasn't the right place for help/questions, should've checked that first lol
hasty cedar
it's not, but I'm lookin for ya
cunning rivet
thank you
lean mortar
@cunning rivet could be private rn and needs to be reviewed
hasty cedar
I don't know what the original model looks like
but
I have found a serefuku nepnep
lean mortar
the server could be back
for me all my avatrs that i use are self imported
even if they are bad
well not bad
just super simpley imported
hasty cedar
you could always make your own
find a cute school uniform on a base
nepnep hair
(not a dl, but you get the idea)
cunning rivet
oh nice
thanks, though I still have a lot to learn with this lol
i was just lazy and went straight to the world
figured i should get started on stuff like this anyways, for facial expressions and items/effects
but that serafuku nep is probably what it was
where did you find it?
cunning rivet
oh lol
cunning rivet
nah its all good, thank you
hasty cedar
a bit mentally exhausted after taking a model from 122K tris down to 19988
cunning rivet
thats huge
hasty cedar
it has issues
but
I believe it's the first successful tamamo no mae avatar in VRchat
cunning rivet
nice
uncut trail
and rl work done wiah i could afford a vr gear fo experience the vr chat ;(
orchid plank
i have question for vive tracker owners.
is this something attractive to you to get only 2 trackers and have 3rd (for hips) purely virtual ?
i guess it would behave very close to actual hip locatio using some kind of reverse kinematics
grim hill
don't own any but from what i can tell it's just so the game can tell where you are better so that you don't have your hips inline with both feet (or close to it) and to help do some other things in game like stick a arse out
earnest harbor
How nice, we found a hacker
who is constantly changing between stolen avatars
looks to be from pedistals
rough pulsar
@orchid plank I've been using 3 vive trackers & full-body since shortly after it got into the release client, and I can think of a number of cases where an estimated hip tracker would stuggle to find the correct solution.
earnest harbor
aside froma few
vocal shard
@rough pulsar Hey, uhm are you able to answer me a question? In dm :o
earnest harbor
no mods online for the world though 😕
rough pulsar
@earnest harbor Grab screenshot showing the name of the offending user, then get your output log and drop an email to moderation@vrchat.com and attach the output log. Also mention in the email when you witnessed this.
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
earnest harbor
they didn't steal mine though
rough pulsar
Dodged a bullet there. Still, send in the report and they'll get banned once the report is looked over.
earnest harbor
I'm eagerly awaiting when they do, they'll get stuck with an ugly old miku
vocal shard
@rough pulsar ban wont do them any harm as they can swap ips and import all old ids they have stolen to new account
hushed bramble
Did VRChat just update
vague slate
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
cobalt geode
I'm using the launch options so that I start in my world, however it throws me back to the hub for some reason. Why?
Even teleporting to my world from anywhere doesn't work
it throws me back, my world worked fine btw
spiral pumice
hello everybody
vocal shard
spiral pumice
oh hello again @vocal shard
vocal shard
Howdy do~
spiral pumice
fine and U ?
vocal shard
Yes, Language Servers. So people who wanna be able to understand others can not have to struggle to find a server who speak their same language.
There are language servers in discord, check in the >Other tab
I've been struggling to find people who speak English in VRChat. The actual game.
I know there are lanuage servers in the Discord.
If it's in game, people have been making worlds that says "___ Server" You could try searching for those.
Alright...
cold nymph
I speak English. Hi hello.
spiral pumice
hello
flint gulch
I speak arabic french and english.
مرحبا.
Salut.
Hello.
flint gulch
Damn nice~
lean mortar
Thanks
spiral pumice
i cant but i cant want to to play on not vr version
flint gulch
.
near root
VRChat is VR is so incredibly fun
grim hill
the head patting is worth it alone
spiral pumice
but do you think that without VR it could be cool ?
near root
It can still be fun but it's not as fun
grim hill
still fun but a bit limited of what yo can do
vocal shard
DT users cant pat smolis
grim hill
yeah you can but some of the games are harder to play
vocal shard
Das not real pat tho-
flint gulch
Close enough
spiral pumice
but i think i will be just on vrchat to talk and follow people
vocal shard
/shrug
cold nymph
You can headbutt each other
spiral pumice
😦
grim hill
if you're just going to do that it's still great
spiral pumice
yey i think
grim hill
that was how i played it first
grim hill
acording to steam
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10
Processor: Intel® i5-4590 / AMD FX 8350 equivalent or greater
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 970 / AMD Radeon™ R9 290 equivalent or greater
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 1 GB available space
vocal shard
4?
grim hill
so the min is 1GB but then you have the other worlds
spiral pumice
ok thx @grim hill
vocal shard
Ooh
grim hill
no problem
grim hill
sya later have a good one
vocal shard
lean mortar
Hello there @vocal shard
flint gulch
cold nymph
Advert-chan, I think I saw you at the uh madcat? Place last night
uncut trail
So how does one upload random avatars via steam client ?
uncut trail
Where do people mostly hangout at this time lol
vocal shard
Hanging out ist much of a problem with friends, but if you're still hunting in the public wild. You go to active worlds
Sayori
flint gulch
Natsuki
sage pewter
Eye tracking is broken, is blinking broken as well?
vocal shard
Yes.
uncut trail
Man so depressed i can't afford VR headset due toi expensive prices in AUD
north axle
Sooner or later, it's gonna get better.
vocal shard
@uncut trail should go buy it, money is nothing
uncut trail
I wish i could but yeah over $800
north axle
I payed ove $1200 for mine, and I live in Ukraine.
uncut trail
which one did u get
shy nest
vive ofc
north axle
Still not sure if it was worth it for me, especially now that the price got dropped, but I'm glad I have it.
shy nest
nothing else would be close tbh
north axle
Yeah, it's Vive.
shy nest
if you're seeing a price anywhere near 1k its a vive 100% of the time
vocal shard
I paid like $2000 for vive, no problem.
north axle
There were some other headsets worth more than 1K as well, but I'm not sure why anyone would bother getting other HMD's.
north axle
If you've got FBT, it's probably worth it.
vocal shard
Hey I’m rich, I studied very hard to get my PHD I make money everyday so no problem.
shy nest
highly doubt any of what you just said is true
north axle
Maybe he/she is Swiss.
uncut trail
EB Games here selling Vive for $999
vocal shard
All I can tell you is, money is life and money is your only motivation.
Your technically not wrong.
north axle
@upper cedar You don't know how painful it is to understand them sometimes.
vocal shard
Dude I had someone keep speaking russian to me yesterday and I had to mute them they kept getting right up in my face
upper cedar
The just come up to me as I’m vr-ing around and they’ll just say “fuck you” over and over
north axle
The only good Russians are weebs and traps, so stick close to those guys, God bless them.
vocal shard
It’s worse when they speak it towards you and know you’re speaking english and keep speaking russian.
I had no idea why he kept talking to me but I couldn’t understand him at all
north axle
I pretended I didn't understand them once, they kept talking right in front of me and discussing how weird I was.
vocal shard
Lol
uncut trail
I never used VR before so how hard to get started ?
jolly nebula
I hope not. I have friends in many countries. How I supposed to play with them?
opaque jewel
@uncut trail what do you mean?
uncut trail
nm lol
opaque jewel
Alright 👌
mighty dew
stealing of avatars is getting pretty rampant
most lobbies i join someone is stealing
public lobbies seem like a bad idea for anyone who spends time on avatars
pure hemlock
I've seen a few sneaky ones pop into a public lobby, quickly clone someone, then load out. I think they're just trying to hoard them on their account before the hacks get detected?
vocal shard
probably
vocal shard
uncut trail
seriously what's with people adding nudity stuff in to vrchat
north axle
It's gonna end some day.
lilac swan
Reminder that the best way to deal and report hackers is to either report them via the form on #moderation-reports or email moderation@vrchat.com and include your output log! This is most important! Include in the report what world and what time (your local PC time) it happened in.
charred scroll
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5406 users in VRChat currently
lilac swan
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
coarse blaze
how the fuck do you guys meet the hackers
mighty dew
@coarse blaze you dont know theyre in your lobby
coarse blaze
I usually notice people around me, though
and well, they probably don't go to unpopulated worlds
foggy storm
yo guys anyone having issues turning on the night mode in steam vr . i cant press it but its there. do i have to do something to activate it?
upper cedar
Man, it’s not even fun anymore when literally nobody speaks your language
foggy storm
hey nip remember me?
north axle
I guess VRChat needs to let us split into different language categories.
north axle
We've been waiting for guilds and clans since early 2017 too.
charred scroll
well, there are gangs
north axle
Yeah, but not actual labels.
They have some custom avatars with tags above them, but it's not really what I'd like to see.
mighty dew
DOLLYHNO_BR stole my avatar just now
He is one of many
I can't provide screenshots of every single person who can download this highly accessable hack
lean mortar
So close
mighty dew
avatar stealing is rampant and you can install it with one click
lean mortar
Its almost the end of the dag
Day*
And tomorrow is the big day
My vr headset is finally going to arrive
uncut trail
Man looking at people who use vr controllers are awesome how they move their characters
vocal shard
i guess that if there is a fix, when it hits servers wil ldetect if id belongs to the owner or not. probably all pedestal avatas would have to be adjusted or reuploaded, but all "stolen" ids would become a bantrap <dreams>
i dont mind reuploading all avatars. especially if hackers can share all ids between them...
mighty dew
same here. if it will ban the hackers then I'm all for it
vocal shard
no they dont
vocal shard
that will happen anyways
no matter if we get rid of id stealing or not
what servers need is working ban mechanism nto depending solely on ip
or just ban all vpn hosts <good luck with that lol>
timid light
Ban mac
mighty dew
i dont care that hackers can copy my avatar like a pedastal, but the fact that they can save my avatar FOREVER
timid light
Address
mighty dew
no
buoyant citrus
stop asking for bans, idiot.
mighty dew
just no
timid light
Nvm
tepid raptor
Like it how a lot of ppl are outraged over avatar theft yet most of them use mmd's from nico or bowlroll that clearly state not to use em anywhere else but privately 🤔
buoyant citrus
vpn shouldn't be banned at all, people talk politics in their private worlds and don't need monitoring
vocal shard
well if someone uses original or heavy modified core he has right to be pissed
timid light
I dont realy care
haughty parrot
That there is true
timid light
About all this stealing avatares
mighty dew
if you spent tens of hours on single avatars you would care a lot more
timid light
Reason is i use other people chars and just import thwn
charred scroll
well, what i do is place a "made by Aaregon" ontop of it
timid light
The only part i can say is if i made my own cos ill put tons of hourse into it
vocal shard
yeah, watermarks all over the palce is the only way u can survive atm 😃
buoyant citrus
so many low IQ on this chat, all you need to do is cover up the blueprint ID and make it verified and this won't happen.
charred scroll
i replace it with a box that always flys upwards really fast
so they cant access the menu
buoyant citrus
and yet you all ask for reinforcement on the bans, ridiculous.
charred scroll
and thus they have to make a new account
vocal shard
because they can easily bypass bans now?
unborn jasper
RWDS could you please explain that, most of us have no idea what that entails
vocal shard
wait, are u banned and are using bypass of any sort right now? that would explain ur approach
charred scroll
well, multiple times i heard that it is actually an ip ban
buoyant citrus
when you upload avatars, you have IDs corresponding to it, if thats not masked therefore, theft.
vocal shard
the strong protectiong includes both strong prevention, detection and punishment
charred scroll
but never got that being approved by an admin/mod
unborn jasper
How do you mask that
buoyant citrus
coding.
tepid raptor
it's never an ip ban
vocal shard
yet, it takes them 2 weeks so far and we cannot see any cure
mighty dew
@buoyant citrus sounds like trolling
fluid atlas
servers are unstreamable
unborn jasper
Sounds like you should do a tutorial RWDS, so us lay people with low IQs can understand. Talking down to people is t helping the situation
misty agate
Good morning guys
buoyant citrus
it doesn't sound like anything, pop open unity and you will see it under the pipeline component if you have VRCSDK
charred scroll
all you said is how to find the avatar id
buoyant citrus
that should be viewed by the creator, not hackers on steroids.
charred scroll
you know whats sad aswell
turbid agate
Need encryption of sorts
charred scroll
normal people and people who can make custom avatars are leaving
more and more script kiddies are joining
buoyant citrus
the pug is dead
charred scroll
sooner or later it will be script kiddies stealing avatars from eachother
charred scroll
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5638 users in VRChat currently
tepid raptor
I mean... it got a bit boring tbh, there's only so much one can do
Most ppl joined the yt and stream hype I believe
turbid agate
I joined a public world for the first time in like 2 weeks, went afk to lunch at my desk, saw someone steal my avatar then my fps dropped to 5fps
vocal shard
someone just broke one of the great pug servers
yet streams got killed by trolls, creative people avoid gaming until fix is present
worthy pollen
got mmd tool error in blender
tepid raptor
nice
turbid agate
fortunately i sent in a screenshot but thats all i did manage to do before fps tanked
vocal shard
@vocal shard how this time? 😛
it made everyones screen go white and scream some racial slurs on repeat @vocal shard
worthy pollen
vocal shard
i swear this will bring shaders restrictions :/
turbid agate
🙁
vocal shard
or at least detection for fullscreen effects
turbid agate
Ye
charred scroll
or size restriction on moving shaders
vocal shard
i had to use task manager to close the game
tall monolith
Hey guys
vocal shard
they can be big if u are close, it wont matter
tall monolith
Long time no see
vocal shard
also some client side detection -> shader full screen - disable all particles and custom shaders -> enable on wish from menu
tall monolith
I just wanted to say that why is crchat crashing lately
charred scroll
no idea
turbid agate
Those shaders that block the GUI, grrrrr
charred scroll
it also seems to get the sound bug and that kinda stuff way too often
vocal shard
@vocal shard public room?
tepid raptor
Just need a toggle particles button for other ppl, I'd be happy
charred scroll
old hub is the only safespace
charred scroll
well, i can defend myself against those
also, if someone has a shader that blocks my menu
then i just use my particle cannon :)
it doesnt lag him out or anything
it just has a really wierd sense of collision with players
mighty dew
So you all know, you can take your avatars away from hackers
You have to delete the avatar from your uploaded content, detatch the ID in Unity, then reupload your avatar
It will have a new blueprint ID and the hackers wont have it
PSA for everyone in here who was talking about it
versed folio
ez game
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
lilac swan
Not for hackers, no
dire dragon
@mighty dew You are correct, sadly it's just a temporary solution until the next person copies your avatar
velvet quarry
Video is no longer required for that
mighty dew
@dire dragon true. I'm now going into the habit of reuploading my showiest avatars every day or so
pastel glade
what about people with gore particles? should i upload a video about that?
lilac swan
Getting their account name should be enough
dire dragon
@versed folio Speak for yourself and maybe stop calling people "idiots"
mighty wadi
Im pretty sure I could code something to stop all particle fx from being a thing in my game but not sure if thats ok
versed folio
yes gore is scawy pls weport :33
lilac swan
Admins can confirm their avatars on their end
dire dragon
Okay I get it, don't feed the trolls...
charred scroll
well, you can still make the sound on a special priority
which will cause it to delete any spawned particle in the range of its max sound
max distance*
dire dragon
I hope VRChat gets VAC integration at some point. I feel like this might highly discourage people from using hacked clients if they actually lost access to some of their games because of a VAC ban.
But I guess we'd need steam workshop integration for that first.. but maybe in the futue 😃 (if this whole thing is even applicable here of course)
versed folio
glhf on that
lilac swan
I think it's pretty safe to say chances of VAC integration and steam workshop is as close to zero as it can get
dire dragon
You don't really have anything worthwile to say, do you?
lilac swan
One of the reasons being it would tie VRchat to steam
versed folio
vac is barely functioning in the games it was made for
what makes you think it will work in vrchat
dire dragon
Mh.. I didn't know it wasn't already. Good point in this case.
tawny elk
I'm not aware of this but what do hacked clients do for VRchat
dire dragon
A variety of things. Copy avatars and their blueprint ID, Impersonate another person by using their name (this can be identified by mods however), forcing teleports on others over and over and a few other things
quiet prawn
spoofed nameplates can be identified by anyone
tawny elk
Teleportation?
dire dragon
I stand corrected in this case.
tepid raptor
The new hacked client can steal your birth certificate now. gg
dire dragon
It's over.
tawny elk
quiet prawn
I wonder why I never run into hackers.
dire dragon
All in all it's probably affecting not a ton of people since many avatars are freely available, but for some, who really put a ton of work into their appearance, this can be quite disheartening
queen trellis
hacked clients are honestly so limited that it's a mystery anyone bothers
queen trellis
Everything they can do you can counter with ease
buoyant citrus
except when they rape your UI and you have to force crash.
queen trellis
Then start the game again
dire dragon
Yes, it's more the question of : How often are you willing to file a report, take a screenshot, send the log and then go into unity and delete and re-upload your avatar
buoyant citrus
"can counter with ease"
queen trellis
you can reupload in minutes with a new blueprint
buoyant citrus
"start the game again"
queen trellis
oh no, clicking an executable is so hard you guys
buoyant citrus
i'm countering with ease with this 2 minute load time
dire dragon
You are missing the point here.
buoyant citrus
that'll show the hacker!
queen trellis
lol trying to "show the hacker" is pointless
tepid raptor
Press X to counter
queen trellis
you can stop them stealing your avatar everything else must just be dealt with
I'm saying they can't actually cause you any harm. pretty weak
even fake bans don't last
dire dragon
VRChat is a social experience, if these things keep on runining it for people (maybe not for you, but probably the majority) then it's bad, both for the reputation of the game and for the player.
queen trellis
I'm not sating they're good or okay
tepid raptor
#hackerlivesmatter
quiet prawn
In all reality. People don't need hacked clients to steal your avatar.
queen trellis
but as is nothing is stopping them from making an alt and getting right back on
yes i know awr but shh
dire dragon
See that's where I believe you are wrong (someone correct me please if that is not the case)
lilac swan
Even if you cannot find or identify the user with a worldcrashing avatar, it's still recorded in the output log. Send it in with your report and mention what world it happened it and roughly what time.
quiet prawn
And this is why output logs are so god damn useful.
lilac swan
Keep in mind every time you start the client the old log is deleted and a new one is generated
vocal shard
starg charging $ for account creation, invest profit in net spec guys :>
queen trellis
is someone going to correct me on my statement about alts or is that actually how that works?
lilac swan
That is someone gets banned, they can just create an alt?
I believe they are IP banned
versed folio
vpn's are easy game
versed folio
its actually a mac address ban
tepid raptor
who even has static ip nowadays?
versed folio
which is hardware
queen trellis
Only reason I know of to have a static IP is if you host a server of some description
I have static IP
versed folio
MAC ADDRESS
queen trellis
I know but they asked
I have static because I host a lot of servers
Most people i know are not tech savy and they've got dynamic as default
also tbf you can change your mac adress. less easy than a dy. IP but still
versed folio
yep
bans are useless
its easy to access your network card and change the mac address whenever
which tbh is easier than even setting up a vpn lmao
queen trellis
I had to change my mac adress on my office pc because I ticked the wrong box in teamviewer installer and the license gating was tied to my mac adress 😂
buoyant citrus
hurr durr i'm a low iq hurr durr what is spoofing
ban is useless
utterly useless
dire dragon
sighs
buoyant citrus
haven't you learned from SL yet
queen trellis
not a thing? arent VAC bans mac adress based or am I insane?
like, actually insane
versed folio
yeah vacs are account tied
queen trellis
oh guess I wouldn't know. never been vac banned
dire dragon
What Kotha said, but you need steam workshop integration for your app for that in the first place
quiet prawn
That would be useless as well
versed folio
useless...
queen trellis
atm all we can really be thankful for is that the worst thing they can do is make you restart your game
gritty pulsar
guys is there a way to delete avatars from hackers????
these cancer * stole my avatars
queen trellis
because other than removing their stolen avatar and temp. banning them theres not much in the way of actual moderation
hushed token
I just wish the game was optimized better so i dont drop from 100-0 frames every 5 seconds in crowded worlds.
quiet prawn
Delete and re-upload.
gritty pulsar
cant they save it?
queen trellis
wish you could set a distance in settings for model culling
dire dragon
Delete your avatar in unity under "manage uploaded content", detach the blueprint ID and re-upload the avatar, you'll get a new ID for it and the guy who stole it loses access to the avatar
rough pulsar
@gritty pulsar They can't save it. Just 'copy' it to their own avatar list.
queen trellis
so I'm not always loading mr fuckwits enormous avatar with 50 billion meshes when I'm far away
buoyant citrus
actually they can save it
hushed token
Hackers are only able to copy the one you have equipped or all your avatars?
gritty pulsar
dude they fcking stole all of my avatars dude
queen trellis
its just a link to whatever unity project file was exported for vrchat uploads
gritty pulsar
and i cant even report them idk why
queen trellis
they can get that from their local files and save it as well
gritty pulsar
i dont have the option
queen trellis
"local" but not easy to access at least.
well not for the avg user
rough pulsar
@gritty pulsar There isn't much of a report system inside vrchat itself, you need to get screenshots, or if need be, video, and your output log and send a report with those.
queen trellis
most of it seems unusable but theres ways
vocal shard
Im not sure what i should do with those so im just going to leave it here
fickle rune
Anyone playing vrchat right now?
jolly blaze
Aaargh
I had someone that was just throwing around the N word, but I can't report em, because his particles/avatar caused a whiteout of the world so I couldn't see his name
umbral reef
@jolly blaze if you cna still acess the social tab you could just block and unblock him to show who is doing it
I got lucky a few times and managed to do that
vocal shard
Where you also blocked from using the menu?
vocal shard
Send your output log to #moderation-reports and say what and when it happened.
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
mighty galleon
I say menu should invert
jolly blaze
I think someone reported him, but yeah
mighty galleon
I like my mouse inverted x3
vocal shard
Aaalright, so after 5min of my last message there was 3 cheaters that stole my avatar (its protected by a wall of text so ppl stealing this model are getting screenshoted by other players) and after that there was few ultra bright models
All of them getting reported.
I wanted to ask, if i see THAT happening, should i call mods?
using "Report Abuse" button
dire dragon
Would be interesting to know what exactly is deemed "urgent"
I'd wager a stolen avatar isn't but someone massively trolling a room with particle effects or similar things might?
queen trellis
nude raids seem to be pretty urgent :v)
vocal shard
yo, whats the wait times on avatar uploads? its been like 10 minutes. used to be barely 30 seconds
queen trellis
I've never taken more than like 2 or 3 minutes for an upload
vocal shard
i mean, the upload process is done, its just not updating in-game even though in my uploads manager it says its there
ive restarted the game too lol
dire dragon
Not updating or showing a red placeholder avatar?
vocal shard
not updating
i updated an avatar and uploaded a new one and neither are updated/uploaded in-game
dire dragon
either way I'd give it just a bit, servers can hiccup sometimes
vocal shard
yea thats kinda the only thing I can do rn
rough pulsar
@vocal shard Try clicking the red arrow next to your personal avatars, that usually forces a reload of the list.
If it's one you've updated, switch to another avatar, get it to reload the list, then switch to the updated one.
dire dragon
Amazing how we went from ~130 (not 800 my bad) all time peak players in november to 20k in early january
did I say 800? I mean 138 xD
vocal shard
@rough pulsar Hey man, it's been a while. IK you can do that, but it isn't doing anything rn. tried that, changing menus, worlds, restarting game, etc etc. its just being finnicky
I played pretty much every day for hours pre-december, but I had overtime @ my job all month so i wasnt able to play, just got back into doing stuff in unity & VRChat
vocal shard
my mistake, i thought call would be some way to copy/paste your user into a mention lmao. @dire dragon
16 hours for what?
lean mortar
My vr headset to arrive
vocal shard
nice, which one
dire dragon
Ah, I was wondering 😉
lean mortar
@vocal shard lenovo explorer
vocal shard
oh, interesting
bronze quail
Hey doess any one know what my problem is every time I add some to my avatar the Tris just skyrocket for no reason and the Tris count for the item is super low
elfin agate
So what do I do exactly if there's an hacker in my lobby
vocal shard
Click on them, go to details, take a screenshot and report to #moderation-reports
Include your output log as well and the time they were stealing avatars and such.
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
elfin agate
Alright done, thank you
magic jolt
eckkkk
vocal shard
sour quartz
why can i hear everyone in the room on gaia even though im on the top of the mountain.... they're not even that close to me
rough pulsar
unnessecarily large audio range, probably?
Or you've been hit with the audio bug and spatialization is broken. Restart vrchat and see if it's still an issue.
hazy pasture
Avatar stealing people are pretty annoying
terse finch
vocal shard
I dont have a update, thats weird
turbid thistle
I do
worn walrus
YES PLEEASE
turbid thistle
just finished updating
worn walrus
I want ee tracking back
vague ice
same