vrchat-general-2

[molten nest]

Great moderation

[paper cloak]

^

[vocal shard]

Wait What?

[molten nest]

Nothing

[crystal epoch]

@velvet quarry Should still press charges though. ❤

[vocal shard]

Alright.

[sullen harbor]

there are a good deal of people who use this program as a social medium; maybe their only social medium

or have great difficulty speaking

[languid trail]

well never mind thats to much work and I have no idea what I'm doing so fail on my part

[warm turtle]

At this point vrchat is life

[opaque hawk]

Quick question, where can I find the steam VRChat data cashe. I need to check how much I've downloaded locally

[dawn pewter]

Where do I go to report someone?

[velvet quarry]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[sullen harbor]

triggers me to know that people like myself who have suffered from social anxieties are made to suffer for somenes instant gratification

[opaque hawk]

I keep all my steam games on a seperate drive

[velvet quarry]

@dawn pewter #moderation-reports

[mortal light]

i mean

[opaque hawk]

thx

[dawn pewter]

@velvet quarry Cannot send messages

[mortal light]

i struggle a lot to socialise in RL

[velvet quarry]

@dawn pewter There's a link to the google form there.

[mortal light]

vrchat is helping

[dawn pewter]

Ahh alright, ty

[trail pebble]

i had 9 gigs getting used up ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[molten nest]

@velvet quarry are you in charge of reports

[crystal epoch]

Highly recommend using a symlink to store the VRChat cache outside of %appdata%/../LocalLow/VRChat

[velvet quarry]

@molten nest I do not handle anything ingame related, the "chat mods" handle the Discord and such only.

[sullen harbor]

during the sensitive time of trying to socialize it can be very damaging to someone to experience certain things. most people have good humor and some decency, but malicious people I really just have a hard time understanding.

[molten nest]

Oh

[mortal light]

oh yes

[molten nest]

If you had the chance to mod in game would you

[mortal light]

@sullen harbor I have met my fair share of them. usually only happens once I open my mouth

[crystal epoch]

WTF Windows plz, why can't I open the folder via %appdata%/../LocalLow/VRChat in Search Windows but it works just fine when I type it into the File Explorer address bar.

[mortal light]

people hear a female and usually just turn into asshats

[velvet quarry]

Possibly, would be nice to help clean the place up a bit.

[sullen harbor]

i'm sorry to hear that @mortal light

[molten nest]

@mortal light exactly

@velvet quarry I hope vrchat promotes you to in game

I think it would be a smart move but that's just me

[opaque hawk]

hidden folders

[crystal epoch]

I find it odd that specifics aren't allowed as I feel that bringing bigger public attention is better (when thinking long term) then just pretending things don't exist.

[wicked dove]

do you think vrchat should support text chat only between friends

[sullen harbor]

i'm not sure how to draw the line tbh, its a tough thing to do. because some memes and things are funny, you know? and some people get offended rather easily....so it just seems like a messy situation to have to sort out what is good humor, what isn't, without sacrificing creative freedom...i just want to see vulnerable people protected, those that have real issues vocalizing or speaking up themselves

[opaque hawk]

anyway I have a little over 7 gigs

[wicked dove]

i think thats a good feature

like just DM

[opaque hawk]

I wish it would just put that data on the same HD as the game I have installed

[crystal epoch]

@wicked dove https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/mailbox-messaging-system

[wicked dove]

oh

they send me vr letters

neat

[crystal epoch]

@opaque hawk Just move it where you want it via symlink, you can have symlinks on Windows, Mac, and Linux now... So...

[paper cloak]

yo, how do you do the "rocknroll" gesture with rift touch controllers? Anyone know?

[molten nest]

I agree on a messaging system however they should only be allowed to send them to friends

Not random people

If that were to happen

[vocal shard]

Rock and roll should be just holding everything except the trigger.

So lift your middle finger while holding the other ones, not pressing.

[molten nest]

But I honestly wouldn't want that until moderation is stable

[vocal shard]

@mortal light agreed, and even so they assume that I'm a trap most of the time

[mortal light]

tbh

I actually prefer it

[molten nest]

We can't have more things to moderate until things are running smooth

Just my opinion

[crystal epoch]

@vocal shard You are a trap most of the time though. :3

[mortal light]

probably sounds odd

[vocal shard]

Heh I guess

[strange gale]

im personally just waiting for the shitstorm to blow over

[vocal shard]

Reverse trap actually

[strange gale]

is it still at 20,000 users or something insane right now

[opaque hawk]

I would imagine having the ability to get DMs from anyone would suck for me because I sound like a teenager.

[vocal shard]

[wicked dove]

@molten nest https://imgur.com/a/RgTTw because this would happen

when meanies send u a letter

[molten nest]

@strange gale I might quit till it ends

[sharp moth]

go eat a seed ugly

lmao

[strange gale]

i quit like a month and a half ago

temporarily

[molten nest]

@wicked dove agreed

[strange gale]

but its sad

i wanna play again

[molten nest]

Or sexual messages to females

[mortal light]

but xayah tho

[vocal shard]

Poor birb.

[molten nest]

@strange gale it picked up during the holidays

[opaque hawk]

oh yeah sexual harrasment would be a super big issue if there were DMs to anyone

[molten nest]

Which sucks

[crystal epoch]

Same, I'd love to play again. I want to make it to the next ENDGAME. 😦 (Since I heard it's about people like me... lol.)

[wicked dove]

yeah it should be only friends

[icy horizon]

most of the time when i speak in a public area i get screamed at for being female. i don't think that type of behavior is ever going away, they can't moderate stuff like that. it's up to us to block them.

[molten nest]

@opaque hawk exactly and some people might not even want dms

[wicked dove]

then can send you messages

[paper cloak]

@vocal shard that does the victory sign for me

[strange gale]

it used to be not bad when a girl talks

[molten nest]

I get called a trap for being a female

[strange gale]

but when u get 20,000 10 year olds from youtube then im not surprised

[molten nest]

And chased and screamed at

[mortal light]

oh god

last night was like that

[molten nest]

How do people even stream it now

[vocal shard]

I usually have to say that I'm a trap because I don't want assholes hitting on me, even when I'm taken

[mortal light]

was talking to someone and just got hounded by like 10 people

[wicked dove]

well to be fair

[opaque hawk]

I recently saw people harrasing a female for having a deep female voice, calling her a trap and such

[wicked dove]

people assume every animu girl or girly voice

is trap

[molten nest]

It is awful

[wicked dove]

because the high male to female ratio

[vocal shard]

Try pressing in on the index finger one. @paper cloak

Smh

[sullen harbor]

!online

[molten nest]

I hope that I can play again

[floral flax]

There are 11519 users in VRChat currently

[molten nest]

But I think I'm gonna quit for now because it's going downhill

[vocal shard]

If that doesn't do it. I have no idea now bcause I don't got all memorised.

[sullen harbor]

can anyone who has been playing a long tell me what the average userbase used to be? I just started playing in december

[wicked dove]

it used to be less cancer

[velvet quarry]

Used to be at around 50-200

[wicked dove]

and less knuckles

[vocal shard]

Less than a thousand max.

[molten nest]

Very low

[wicked dove]

only some people had the game

[vocal shard]

Most of the people knew each other.

[velvet quarry]

http://steamcharts.com/app/438100

[wicked dove]

and the old hub is the best hub

[vocal shard]

Ah

[sullen harbor]

thank you

[mortal light]

hate to say it but i doubt its ever going to go back

[opaque hawk]

Fantasys, best bet right now is the play with people you know or dart out of rooms if people get toxic

[velvet quarry]

I joined at around June personally

[pearl minnow]

This game has grown very fast.

[sullen harbor]

interesting.

[vocal shard]

End of September for me.

[sullen harbor]

things being cyclical, i wonder if its bound to drop again

[molten nest]

@opaque hawk there's a lot of bad stuff happening

[crystal epoch]

@rose timber Sorry for mentioning you but I have no idea who else to ask and you're mentioned allot in the description of the videos... So... What ever happened to the record of the last Endgame?

[opaque hawk]

I started playing a few weeks ago. I've had a handful of awesome genuine experiences, and a lot more bad.

[vocal shard]

Did servers just crash? I can't log in

[paper cloak]

ah fuck it, I'm just gonna override a different one lol

[molten nest]

Now someone is watching hentai in a room and playing it

[mortal light]

these people are not going anywhere

pop might go down again

[molten nest]

On their mic

[mortal light]

but it will be a population of them

lol

[narrow lodge]

I can't tell you if they crashed or not since I been having spotty internet tonight

[sullen harbor]

always be bad folks. i might be wrong but i think peopel who are legitimately interested in the game will outnumbered those and stay around past memes

[wicked dove]

i imagine the hentai room

[sullen harbor]

when pop lowers

[wicked dove]

being a bunch of people jerking off

with their vr

[vocal shard]

Ikr

[sand bough]

🤔

[wicked dove]

vive trackers on hand

[molten nest]

It is horrible what people are doing

[vocal shard]

Wh

[wicked dove]

[vocal shard]

Fucking mobile I swear

[sand bough]

[molten nest]

I think mods should be able to handle reports

Like have some part in it

[vocal shard]

Mhm

[molten nest]

Even if they can't ban people

At least let them help

Gives the main guys less to do by themselves

[crystal epoch]

Well I'm guessing there are in-game mods, and Discord chat-mods. Different people for different things.

[grim slate]

@analog marten

[molten nest]

Ya there are discord mods and then other people who handle in game

[crystal epoch]

Afromanas Discord avatar still freaks me out.

[velvet quarry]

👀

You should see it ingame

[crystal epoch]

Oh god you have an in-game version. Please no.

[analog marten]

@grim slate ohz I was just looking through them

[crystal epoch]

I already get nightmares about my online life. ^^;

[molten nest]

Everyone does ^

[vocal shard]

Same

I have dreams about knuckles

Rip

[mortal light]

my god I am so over that

its so cringy now

[vocal shard]

I like watching them what they do but they are getting so cringy now

[wicked dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlpq7TcfSxk @vocal shard

is this you

[trail pebble]

I have nightmares I am in MMD nightclub and my loli is to short to hit the music buttons and i just sit there sad and hope soemone comes to click the buttons. Wait.. thats no dream, thats real life!

[vocal shard]

Yes I can always hear “ spit on her “

😂

[crystal epoch]

Thought it was just a me thing. @___@;

[wicked dove]

just have you avatar have a gun

incase they try to spit on you

[crystal epoch]

I wonder if that one guy is getting tired of me mentioning him yet.

[vocal shard]

@trail pebble lol 😂

[crystal epoch]

@obtuse shuttle Why you do this? __@

[keen hawk]

yo

is it normal for dynamic bones to make ur hair and skirt stuttering

hey

whats the difference between running vr and nonvr mode on steam

[velvet quarry]

Do you have a VR Headset?

[wicked dove]

if u have vr

u use vr

if u have no vr

[vocal shard]

If the settings you used in Dynamic bone is not set correctly, it'll do that.

[wicked dove]

us non vr

[molten nest]

I'm going to go but I may consider quitting till everything is fixed

[keen hawk]

both are the same

modes

[crystal epoch]

@keen hawk The diffrence is that VR gives you a much wider range of motion.

[keen hawk]

oh

[crystal epoch]

But if you don't have a VR Headset the game will always launch in non-vr mode. Not sure why it's even an option on Steam. Somone should change it.

[keen hawk]

cant find the right values for my dynamic bones 😦

always stutter in vrchat

[crystal epoch]

Takes a lot of tinkering, but you'll find them eventually.

[keen hawk]

i need to make clear if its my computer or my values

[crystal epoch]

We need to have first person chess in VRChat.

[mortal light]

is it bad that im sitting here at work

[crystal epoch]

Yes.

[mortal light]

and the entire office is just like

breaking

and I am the only IT person here

[crystal epoch]

Depends on what kind of substence you're on.

[mortal light]

responsibilities

haha

[crystal epoch]

Oh, nvm then lol.

If you like dnb go listen to Fire by Matrix & Futurebound featuring Max Marshall.

VR will probably never be as advanced as Swordart Online, atleast we'll be able to have something like Ready Player One, someday soon.

[vocal shard]

Not with that attitude. :snap:

Why is there no snap emote.

more bibo

[crystal epoch]

@vocal shard I guess you could use this...

🎬

[unborn jasper]

@supple bison Hi

[vocal shard]

Close enough.

[crystal epoch]

[vocal shard]

[hallow lintel]

Hey guys, I'm currently writing a short paper about the social implications of VRChat and I wanted to see if there were any potential ideas that anyone else has had. I'm currently planning on covering harassment, social anxiety, psychology of being in an alternate reality, and what happens during a real life medical emergency.

[mortal light]

sounds like an interesting paper

[vocal shard]

sexual loneliness

[crystal epoch]

@hallow lintel Just write "i kno de wey".

[mortal light]

expression of sexuality is a good one

important

[crystal epoch]

Sexuality is a false god.

[mortal light]

much easier to come out of your shell and it actually mean something in VR

lol

[hallow lintel]

That's a good one

[vocal shard]

shows the more true side of an invidual

and why they pat lolis

[mortal light]

haha

[hallow lintel]

Being able to hide behind an online persona definitely changes a person as well

[crystal epoch]

Please note all our lolis are 💯 % genuine 🔥

[mortal light]

its not about hiding

[vocal shard]

people are more true when theyre on the line

[mortal light]

would like to talk about it more but probs not in public chat

[amber socket]

can anyone help me

is it possible to turn mdl files into smd files with textures?

[crystal epoch]

@amber socket #avatars-2-general ?

[amber socket]

shoot sorry

[mortal light]

maybe ask in the #avatars-2-general

[crystal epoch]

Unwoop the Zarniwoop.

inb4 Zarniwoop works for the Totally Spies.

[vocal shard]

I'm off, have fun peeps

[lilac swan]

I think it would be interesting if you included something about the difference between VR and desktop users in VRchat. Personally I feel desktop users usually don't realize or don't care for the "comfort" of VR users

[crystal epoch]

Why am I just typing random things?

[orchid pike]

Is anyone else having positional audio problems? like, hearing someone talking to your left, but they're right in front of you.
I'm in Vr by the way

[crystal epoch]

I keep hearing clicking in VRChat.

[proven stream]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 11728 users in VRChat currently

[crystal epoch]

@orchid pike Some maps have weird sound bugs not sure why since I've never made a map for VRChat.

[lilac swan]

@orchid pike Sometimes that audio bug can happen. Restarting the client works as a fix for me.
@crystal epoch Currently there's a memetic virus called "Ugandan Knuckles" going around. Hopefully it'll die off by its own in time

[orchid pike]

Hmm, I'm getting it everywhere.

[hallow lintel]

Either a bug or a dozen Ugandan Knuckles

[crystal epoch]

I know a map where a person can be in another room and you hear them like they are standing beside you, makes it really weird to find people on there.

[orchid pike]

I'll try restarting though. Thanks.

@crystal epoch Yes! It's super hard to talk to people now. I get very disoriented.

[lilac swan]

You can override the talking audio dropoff in the world settings per room

[crystal epoch]

Will let the map maker know.

[twilit kraken]

@lilac swan sorry for tag you, but there is any info about being unable to update public worlds? I keep getting the same error, i can update private worlds, but i can't with my public world

[crystal epoch]

Whoever just said "J" in #events got me ally excited for nothing. lol.

[supple bison]

@unborn jasper Lol hi

[lilac swan]

Can you confirm you are using the latest SDK?

Also whenever you update a publicly listed world, it goes private again

[keen chasm]

This vr maze is killing me man. But since the walls are bigger I know I must be close

[twilit kraken]

Yes, i'm using the latest SDK, and i can update my private world with zero problems, but when i use my public blueprint i simply can't =(

[lilac swan]

Sorry, I've never dealt with something like that before so I dunno what to suggest other than trying the "usual" stuff

[gentle plume]

lol foudn another avatar stealer

[shy nest]

what even are descriptions for in regards to avatars? i always put stupid shit in there

[vocal shard]

@gentle plume go to #moderation-reports to inform

[lilac swan]

@shy nest Leftover from previous versions of VRchat. Currently they don't do much or anything

[shy nest]

i see

[wanton dawn]

Any solutions yet to the blackscreen issue?

[lilac swan]

@wanton dawn Dunno if this'll work but try putting this in your steam launch options vrchat://launch?ref=vrchat.com&id=wld_97fda4a1-f820-4f09-a88c-2d2a95b668f7:1~friends

[wanton dawn]

Nope, tried a bunch of maps to spawn into

[lilac swan]

Hrm... Assume you tried validating your files?

[wanton dawn]

The issue isn't maps loading. In fact i know i do load jnto maps because of the music and sound effects of soad worlds playing

Yes and reinstallung as well

[lilac swan]

Aah, that kind of black screen. I would blame the servers right now

[wanton dawn]

For several days straight?

And shouldn't i be able to see the loadjng screen at least if it was a server thing?

[lilac swan]

In that case the issue might be on your end, I dunno

This is a bit beyond me

[languid adder]

There are three words that scare me to no end

"VRChat Funny Moments"

[wanton dawn]

Same

And usually the thumbnail contains an oxymoron ti the title in form of knuckles

[vocal shard]

How long untill a VRChat cringe compilation?

🤔

[mortal light]

or big anime assets

[lilac swan]

I'm pretty sure there has got to be cringe compilations already

[warm geode]

a lot of them actually

[mortal light]

many

[granite snow]

Omfg, MatSix is talking for real on his stream and he has a hot voice ^3^

Awesome

Omg

He just dissed nagzz for real with his real voice

The best

[mortal light]

who?

[rotund hornet]

ugh i think servers are disabled for me

got the same black screen as above

[mint aurora]

Improv event room private? Aww yeah

[valid quiver]

Gonna miss matsix

[vocal shard]

Lol, there's 2492 instances of the Maze 01 world

[granite snow]

Woah

[hoary quail]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 11706 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

9027 now regarding the instances, must be something wrong there, there's only 400 people in it.

[thorny pond]

Any idea what font the nameplates use?

[wicked dove]

walked into vr chat

see a xenomorph sitting on a black dildo

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL DUWANG

[mortal light]

🇰 🇾 🇸

[wicked dove]

rude

[mortal light]

actually no dont do that

lol

[polar arch]

Man. I have a problem. I don't do anything but make avatars all day.

I need to learn how to make a world so I can spread my works. 🤔

[rustic cosmos]

Saaaaame

[polar arch]

omg

[vocal shard]

oof

[subtle salmon]

oh dear

[wicked dove]

vrsex is actually true

[mortal light]

duh,

i mean

nvm

note to self

use gloves when cutting onions

[crystal epoch]

Who's chopping onions?

[mortal light]

i was

last night

now all i smell is onion on my hands

tried skin cream

lip balm haha

losing my mind

[crystal epoch]

Have you tried tomato juice? Heard it's the magic smell remover.

Never actually needed to use it myself though so not sure if it's true.

[mortal light]

no I havnt

though

im not sure how that would look at work

wierd girl washing her hands with tomatoes

[gloomy cloak]

How does one report an avatar stealer?

[crystal epoch]

Well I mean when you get home... lol. Plus it's not that weird, there are weirder things you can do.

[mortal light]

computers are smoking, printers are screaming and shes over there massaging some tomatoes

haha true

[lilac swan]

#moderation-reports And include your output log within the report @gloomy cloak

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

[gloomy cloak]

😃

[mortal light]

wow that bot kicks ass

[crystal epoch]

I'm still triggered that %appdata%/../LocalLow/VRChat works in the address bar, but not in the Windows search bar.

[vocal shard]

My back hurts ;-;

[crystal epoch]

I mean like common Microsoft where's the consistancy!?

[mortal light]

well

as someone who works in IT I could debate

but yes

that is dumb

[rare fox]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[crystal epoch]

Another thing that's inconsistent and strange is that if you have a symlink (I think Microsoft calls them junctions), using %appdata%/../LocalLow/VRChat will show you to the directory path the symlink points to, while C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat will show you the fake directory path.

Microsoft needs to step up, I like my file system being consistent.

https://i.imgur.com/2GxHdGg.gifv

[uneven dove]

im having a bit of a problem if anyone can help me that would be awesome

awesome*

[mortal light]

that cat is a terminator

[uneven dove]

lol

[crystal epoch]

@uneven dove Problems are resolved much faster when they have descriptions.

[mortal light]

lol

[echo comet]

who wanna partying it up on Vrchat?

[uneven dove]

when i join a public lobby i dont join anyone

[mortal light]

when you click on the room down the bottom there are instances

[uneven dove]

like in every place i go too

[mortal light]

pick an instance wiht players in it

by default it makes a new room for some reason

[uneven dove]

i did that i can only join friends to see people

[mortal light]

odd

check settings maybe

[uneven dove]

bit

ill try

[crystal epoch]

I blame Tupper, I've learned to always blame Cirno for these things.

[uneven dove]

lol

well everythings normal

[mortal light]

can you hear anyone?

[uneven dove]

no like i dont join anyone at all

even if i do the instance

[mortal light]

you must not be doing it right

or its broken

[uneven dove]

idk might just need to reload

for the 6th time XD

[crystal epoch]

Have you tried to...

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[mortal light]

how are you picking the instances?

[uneven dove]

at the bottom

[stoic citrus]

doesnt something like that happen when something is outdated?

[uneven dove]

i updated

imma try the cache

[stoic citrus]

huh.. that's really strange- though i had something similar happen where i'd join a world that had 30 people in it and enter one that has 2, but i think that was a server issue

[uneven dove]

just pressing fo dosnt work still but the instance works now

go*

[mortal light]

pressing go never works for me

[lime loom]

can emote animations be cancelled midanimation?

[vocal shard]

found a huge group of chileans dudes

we told sad stores and stuff

we've got a discord and whatsapp group even

cool stuff man

everyone buying vr headset...

just wait and then buy one of those like in sword artonline

omg please fix the file record bug when uploading avatars, wasting 5-10 minutes uploading only to have it fail at the end is terrible

[wicked dove]

not waiting till the holodeck is real

its like you dont want to expereince true vr

[vocal shard]

whats different?

does it need less ram?

[thin bay]

anyone know a fix for radeon graphics cards causing anything with cubed's shaders to not render while using VR?

[nimble adder]

someone keeps making this Pug instance completely black

[lethal ibex]

gets on VRchat after taking break

whole session so far is a bunch of a people saying the N word and a model of a naked man

[uneven adder]

Are the hackers still running about? is it safe to use the original models now?

[wicked dove]

meaning that a holodeck can simulate any enviroment

so you can actually be there

[vocal shard]

vrchat the place to learn anatomy

-.-'

nah ill wait for when we can actually use superpowers in reality

[granite grail]

Is there any easier way to map buttons in vrchat

[vocal shard]

welp i cant upload no matter how much i try

;~;

[meager sundial]

my avatar become trash anime grill. why!

[vocal shard]

recycle it

[fervent bramble]

We did the maze!

@uneven adder they ar still around yes

[uneven adder]

ok thanks

[vocal shard]

i hope riftcat does not contain malware

[hollow tendon]

is anyone else having problems with the avatar menu?

sometimes i can only see the 1st avatar on the lis and no others

[vocal shard]

Riftcat does not contain malware

[strange girder]

just saw, anyone else having trouble uploading Avatars right now?? I saw one person talking about it

Don't know if this is an ongoing issue

[vocal shard]

...

.

On going issue, specify your issue in #avatars-2-general you may get a fix

[crystal epoch]

You can't have issues uploading avatars if you don't upload avatars.

[vocal shard]

[strange girder]

lmao

[quiet mica]

i wish vrchat could show me how long a friend has been offline for

[vocal shard]

#feature-requests

[crystal epoch]

I wish vrchat would solve all my life problems.

@covert chasm Should totally accept my FR. loud licking sounds

[hollow tendon]

i can't see my avatar thumpnails

i can still select them though

[timid light]

good moring guys

[hoary quail]

not the best 3:22 of my life but good night/day

[vocal shard]

hey

[short ingot]

theres yet another person with modded client

[vocal shard]

modded client?

[short ingot]

yea

they change to the avatar ur using when facing u

n keep that avatar forever

[sterile sonnet]

yeah sadly they can steal it and save it but could just override your blueprint id that model was attached too and erase it from their hacked account

[short ingot]

i dont mind em stealing my avatars, just because its from internet, but it isnt fair if the victim wasted weeks to make it n get stolen

[vocal shard]

how does one rotate with mouse and keyboard?

[sterile sonnet]

yeah thats why i hide my bubble they click on to steal so meaning my avatar cant be stolen, plus if i notice anyone steal my avatar i wasted hours on that isnt like anything online ill just steal back and remove from their account

[vocal shard]

I don't know if I should sleep and there being a chance of me waking up late vs staying up all night so I won't wake up late sacrificing sleep

[short ingot]

how to hide ur bubble o.o

[vocal shard]

@sterile sonnet how would you steal it back, unless you did the forbidden thing

[sterile sonnet]

@vocal shard you just put the blueprint id they stole onto a crappy model and it will override the one they stole

so meaning they wont have your hard work model

[vocal shard]

"steal"

[sterile sonnet]

yeah you steal your hard work back from the hackers

[jade zephyr]

Just make a hacker sign model and let that override it. 😄

[sterile sonnet]

exactly

[hasty wedge]

take a drink everytime u hear stealing avatars in 1 day 🤔

[shadow prism]

bar crawl was last night

[supple python]

Wish a mod would have actually shown up... there was just a guy with a very disturbing avatar...

[polar bone]

@sterile sonnet how did you hide your bubble?

[tough jay]

blacker then black and darker than dark i command you to mix with my deep crimson. 😄 i'm making a megumin with an explosion emote.

then im gonna make a hank hill that goes super saiyan to the BWAAHAHHAHHH sound

[quiet willow]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 9202 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

@supple python what did he have

[hollow tendon]

the game is unbeleavably broken after the last patch

[vocal shard]

hm?

how do most people play this game

do they like walk around in the room?

well people join worlds and then start talking

i am using the GearVR and i need to use my keyboard to move around

find like a group of people and just join in the conversation

nah im ashamed of my voice

you dont have to speak

i wish it was easier to move around though, that one could just use some keys to turn around

if you wear the VR glasses you are forced to move your head around

[glacial reef]

I mean even with my VR I use my controller for turning more than I do looking around

unless someone makes me turn my head for something

so its alot like the keyboard turns just using a analog stick to trigger it

[crystal epoch]

Is it bannable to inject custom shaders into VRChat on the clientside?

[leaden kiln]

without modifying the sdk?

or the client?

[vocal shard]

@glacial reef i dont think its possible to use the controller to turn around with GearVR

where does one find scrungusbungus?

[crystal epoch]

@leaden kiln Neither? What?

idk

Custom shaders into VRChat without modifying neither the client or the SDK. But I guess you inject into it so you kinda are modifying things but it only effects how you see things...

Cellshaded VRChat

[leaden kiln]

hmm

I dunno, sounds interesting

[crystal epoch]

@leaden kiln Left is cel shaded, right is not... https://i.imgur.com/5kSpHjl.png

My point being is that it kinda makes things look more HD by making them have more contrast and be more cartoony.

[leaden kiln]

I guess see what the devs say. I don't see any harm in it.

[crystal epoch]

Also saw some newer Fallout 4 mods kinda wanna play Fallout 4 again lol.

[polar bone]

play it in VR

[tranquil warren]

ew

[crystal epoch]

Not buying a VR headset.

[tranquil warren]

Fallout 4 vr is quite bad ;-;

[polar bone]

Yeah, I've heard

[tranquil warren]

Wish it was better thank god it wasn’t my game

[crystal epoch]

Just use mods to fix it.

[polar bone]

Yeah, people have made un official patches

On the topic of porting games to VR, Metroid prime is amazing.

[timid light]

so whats been happening

[raven silo]

right now Mircosoft vr is cheap

[timid light]

OKAY

oh shit left caps on

!online

[floral flax]

There are 8085 users in VRChat currently

[lapis lintel]

holy shit

is discord shitting itself?

[timid light]

why do u think that

[placid umbra]

Seems to be the case

[timid light]

how is discord fucking up

[placid umbra]

"26 servers are unavailable due to a temporary outage."

[timid light]

oh

okay

well thats discord

server

[pale sundial]

discord went down?

[timid light]

lol

any way ill be going now see ya guys later

[gilded spade]

How do you make portals stay open longer?

[vocal shard]

Timer resets when someone goes in it

I think

did we die?

[raven silo]

@gilded spade somone has go in portal make portal stay open longer

[hollow tendon]

i love that people that do something by accident get banned but theres a guy with a giant dick running around with 0 problem

[languid adder]

It's always fun to check out new worlds.

[hollow tendon]

yeah this is the exact reason i avoid popular worlds though

[languid adder]

I love the pug, but then you find interesting maps. Like.. Last night for example, someone ported over the Radiant Emerald course from Sonic R for no particular reason, it was great

[hollow tendon]

yeah i personally love the horror maps but not many people hang out on those

[wanton dawn]

anyone figure out what to do about the infinite black screen yet?

[hollow tendon]

i haven't seen that yet but youll probably have to stay posted

the games pretty broken after the last patch

[leaden kiln]

dammit, walked into the pug to hear a girl with an absolutely beautiful singing voice and missed it because of that stupid audio bug.

[plain oracle]

Has anyone had issues with memory leaks?

It's weird, it almost seems like the opposite effect of a memory leak. VRChat just slowly stops using CPU/GPU cycles until the game can barely run

[safe yacht]

Would it be worth reporting people that troll with portals?

[buoyant oriole]

why is it that after I deleted my avatar I still see people have it in game days later

does the blueeprint id not detach if you delete it through manage content

[vocal shard]

which one is yours?

[buoyant oriole]

Nyan cat

[icy horizon]

@buoyant oriole either it doesn't truly remove it or it has something to do with your cache, maybe. i've heard of people updating avatars with models of just cubes or something similar when their avatar gets stolen to prevent others from using it.

[buoyant oriole]

so how to i find the blueprint id now that I can't see it in manage content

[wanton dawn]

anyone know how to reset the game's settings to default?

like basically remove the locally saved ones

[plain oracle]

Wow this is getting pretty unplayable.

[hasty wedge]

did u make it from scratch or some edits

[plain oracle]

Wew, not only does this game have a memory leak that hits pretty fast, it wont use my GPU in any way.

And barely touches my CPU

[vital rune]

its friggin Unity

[buoyant oriole]

I made it completely frome scratch

[vital rune]

its so top-class with its memes

[plain oracle]

No GPU usage, barely any CPU usage. Runs better when minimized, eats up 80% of my 16GB of RAM

[vital rune]

I just made it DesktopLOw

and it only slightly improved the performance

[wanton dawn]

i found a solution finally

[vital rune]

keyword slightly

[wanton dawn]

it's absically temporary gonna report on what I did once I made it permanent

[raven silo]

@plain oracle vrchat only use cpu. plus unity limit how much it can be use on cpu

[vital rune]

I even made an assumption

that Unity is still at 32bit

[plain oracle]

Why won't it use more of my CPU, then?

[vital rune]

because its a meme

[plain oracle]

It's lagging, yet wont even use my CPU more than 20%

[vital rune]

the devs of the engine just don't give a crap anymore or just don't want to

[raven silo]

well 2018 verison unity i hear might be use more cpu

there 2 mods for 2018 unity

[plain oracle]

Or the fact it wasn't supposed to blow up in popularity like this

Is there any form of GPU acceleration, in any way

[icy horizon]

sounds like it is an issue with unity and not vrchat specifically?

[plain oracle]

I have a strong system, I shouldn't be lagging

[vital rune]

or you know, completely update Unity?

[plain oracle]

The Unity devtools run just fine

[vital rune]

oh wait we have to do our avatars and world on scratch again so shiiieettt

[plain oracle]

We shouldn't, though

Unity still uses the same model system, I was building my models with the new Unity tools instead of the old one and it still works

[raven silo]

for right now best optimize your avatar till we get better unity update some day

[vital rune]

I'm still imaging VRChat on the Unreal Engine

[plain oracle]

The issue with that is I have a 19k dynamic avatar and a shitty 7k Waluigi.

[wanton dawn]

Ok so if anyone else has the issue of the game just being black from moment 1 but with sound playing and worlds loading, change the resolution of your desktop, start the game(which should now work) and then just set your resolution back to what it usually is.

[plain oracle]

They both have the same impact on my FPS/system.

[vital rune]

like

[sturdy cove]

@vital rune yeah. 0 players 'cause too hard to make your avatar

[vital rune]

I felt like VRChat would benefit GREATLY with the Unreal Engine

[raven silo]

dyanimic bone use the cpu because how the collection movment of the bones

[plain oracle]

I was at least trying to force multithreading or SOMETHING

[sturdy cove]

@vital rune only in terms of performance

[plain oracle]

My performance issues

[raven silo]

most everyone have same perfomance problem

[plain oracle]

My performance issues are from Unity not using my system in any way

It becomes unplayable within 20 minutes

[sturdy cove]

@plain oracle what cpu do you have?

[vital rune]

hell, I played a recent Unity game called DUSK

and its silky smooth

[plain oracle]

Uuhhh

FX-8370 octocore?

That should be it

[raven silo]

@vital rune they have everything optimize but in vrchat need remember alot new people learn unity so they wont know how to optimize

[sturdy cove]

@vital rune yeah the problem is that avatars and worlds are poorely optimized in general

[vital rune]

meanwhile VRChat constantly shits itself

here's the greatest example

entering the Great Pug

if you are zero tolerant on 1-5 FPS, don't enter there

[sturdy cove]

@plain oracle well not really a good cpu tbh. You need good single core performance

[raven silo]

Great pug has good perfomance it the people around the problem lol

[vital rune]

because at times it would load properly, but at other times?

you'd enter it in 5 seconds and it took like a minute to fully load the thing

and you're stuck in the 1-5 FPS

[raven silo]

the people around dont know how to optimize there avatar

[vital rune]

my LL avatars and Doomguy himself are like close to 15-16k

so I might be part of the problem lol

[plain oracle]

4.1ghz clock speed per core is still pretty nice.

[raven silo]

it material dyanmic bone

[plain oracle]

Good enough to run unity.

[raven silo]

particle

can cause fps drops

[sturdy cove]

@plain oracle and gpu?

[plain oracle]

R9 390x

[raven silo]

amd not best at make graphic card either alot games have hard time support them

[wanton dawn]

doesnt help that some faggots tinker with the sdk to further make their avatars tank performance of others

[sturdy cove]

Wait do you use it with vr or just in desktop mode?

[wanton dawn]

because muh pretty anime waifu has to be viewed in its full glory

[plain oracle]

Desktop

[sturdy cove]

Well I had no such problems with i5-4570 and gtx 770

[vital rune]

I'm surprsied

I havnt seen a FNAF avatar just yet

[sturdy cove]

I mean framerate could drop but not that much

[plain oracle]

It didn't do this before.

I'll try varifying my gamefiles

[raven silo]

if you in room with more 20 people alot world have problems

it more to do to the person avatar

[vital rune]

but yea

I'm honestly surprised I havnt seen a single FNAF avatar in VRChat

don't ask me why I'm curious

[vocal shard]

I saw a single freddy once

[vital rune]

I have seen enough of Ugandan Knuckles in my fucking life

[raven silo]

there been FNAF

[vital rune]

not on my experience yet at least

[vocal shard]

pretty sure there's an avatar pedistal for it

[vital rune]

however, I did once saw a Locus avatar from RvB

[wanton dawn]

now that oyu mention it, like 200 hours in and me neither

[vital rune]

I know I said it already

[wanton dawn]

i kinda expected dozens of fnafs

[vital rune]

extremely rare sight

[sturdy cove]

You need models for that

People usually use MMD ones

Since they are kinda seem more accessible for them

[vital rune]

I mainly used MMD for the Love Live avatars

XNALara for others

I have yet to find a decent NiGHTS model

without looking low poly

[wanton dawn]

well there is the wii game

i'm sure someone ripped those models

[vital rune]

yea

but at the same time

they're low poly

accuse me for being a graphics whore

[wanton dawn]

well, you are literally not gonna find somehting better than the latest game

[vital rune]

damn shame

[raven silo]

time to learn 3d model make your own lol

[summer crater]

@supple bison any reason why when I setup world particles for my avatar, my avatar ends up bouncing up and down in the game preview in unity and spazzes out in game?

[vital rune]

I actually have the All Stars Racing NiGHTS model

but its unrigged

and rigging it with Mixamo is a death sentence

[raven silo]

@vital rune there autorigged plugin for blender

just watch youtube

on it

[vital rune]

thanks for NOT supporting textures Mixamo

even if I did the zip file bullshit

[plain oracle]

Doing a core test while running the game

64% utilization of core 1

It's not even using all of the first core before just... not doing anything anymore.

[vital rune]

I'm also extremely lazy

I couldn't assed myself doing eyetracking for my avatars lol

[wanton dawn]

oh i forgot about all star racing

[vital rune]

funny how SEGA just left the IP to dust

[tepid kestrel]

Someone's abnoxious model is blinding everyone in my session if a mod can take care of this

Name is Headline

[wanton dawn]

probably because it's not very good...

[vital rune]

Journey of Dreams just bit the IP to dust lmao

[tepid kestrel]

"masamune. 1098" is their username, they're straight up blinding everyone <@&397642795457970181>

[vital rune]

and now like HUNK from Resident Evil, NiGHTS' role is reduced to crossovers and cameos

sad day

[vocal shard]

@tepid kestrel #moderation-reports, please.

Take a screenshot/video of them and fill in the necessary info there.

[manic ginkgo]

Hey is it possible to make separate animations for example

Handgun on right hand would give you a pen but give you a knife if you did it on left hand

[wanton dawn]

man, i need to find the guys that make the movie servers

[vocal shard]

Yes, you just need to put it in separate emote overrides.

[wanton dawn]

and just point them towards the mmd club server's functionality

[manic ginkgo]

Hmm there are emote overrides specifically for right/left hand?

[vocal shard]

Nope.

[manic ginkgo]

Then what do you mean?

[vocal shard]

Make one override that only spawns the gun, another one that only spawns the knife.

Put the gun override on one of the custom overrides and put the knife on another one.

#avatars-2-general would be a better place to ask that because I am really horrible at explaining.

[pastel spruce]

I'm still getting an issue where I'll drop to around 10-15 FPS until I touch my mouse/keyboard, and then it'll be fine for another 5/10 minutes - anyone have a similar issue? I'm on Vive.

[plain oracle]

Sitting in a small empty server, still starting to see lag.

Wew

[manic ginkgo]

Well thanks for trying atleast hahah, I'll take a deeper look into it when I'm at a computer

[buoyant oriole]

When you delete an avatar through the manage upload content does it also clear the blueprint id because I deleted a stolen avatar but I'm still seeing it in game. Can anyone please help

[vocal shard]

If they restart their game, it should be gone.

[buoyant oriole]

It's been like 4 days and I just saw someone today with it

[wanton dawn]

i mean, did you actually make the model yourself?

otherwise maybe someone else just made the same one

[vocal shard]

^

[vital rune]

^

its called coincidence

[vocal shard]

Don't forget about that.

[vital rune]

I even ran into the same guy

who had a Frank West avatar

except his were made with more effort

[buoyant oriole]

I made the entire thing model, texture, animation myself

[vital rune]

even had a tiny version

[buoyant oriole]

it's actually impossible for anyone else to have the same thing

and it not been stolen

the cape has my signature on it so I know it's mine

[raven silo]

@mild sleet mostly like they copy your avatar with hack client.

[vital rune]

whens the goddang security update

[summer crater]

does anyone know why my avatar is bouncing up and down after trying to add a world particle effect?

I turned off gravity on the rigidbodies and constrained them in xyz

[vocal shard]

you fucked up

[granite halo]

Does anyone know how the Cinema map works?

[raven silo]

if it use web panel need restart your client because web panel are really buggy

[buoyant oriole]

at this point I give up I'll just wait for someone using my model to cause a seizure then maybe I'll actually get a response from support

[ashen wadi]

it's like 5 people total, give them some time

[summer crater]

i figured out my world particle problem, somehow my avatar had a springjoint on it lol

wtf

[vocal shard]

@buoyant oriole safest way is to upload a cube or knuckles avatar before deletion, this way u can make sure its overwritten with some crap

[timid light]

Hello

[buoyant oriole]

It sucks cause I already deleted and I don't know what the id was so I guess it didn't get overwritten

[vocal shard]

Doesnt the model get deleted also after u delete it from "Manage uploaded content" ?

[jagged herald]

Hey guys, can I ask a question

Everyone list top 10 of the avatar they like / want to see in game
I will be making them for everyone

[candid marsh]

more

traps

[vocal shard]

IS IT

Bad i have 5 slime avatars in VRChat

[wise surge]

I want God in VRChat plz

[thin ember]

I been looking for a quality shinobu

[vagrant sequoia]

someone just copy my avatar. i thought that hack was already pach.

atleast they didnt copy my name

[glad thicket]

If it was patched they would of sent a everyone ping to warn everyone to update he game

They have only really had some small updates to help combat the hackers and fix the the problems those updates have created but at this point of time they are still working on the hacker situation

[vocal shard]

just use some temporal avatar in meantime and dont touch those original ones outside of freinds or invite onyl rooms

[north axle]

If you find any, go to #moderation-reports.

Also, you can always send us your VRC output log to [e-mail] to specify the details.

[hazy cloak]

So do any of you lot have VIVE Trackers and can answer a question?

[vital rune]

@vagrant sequoia completely from scratch?

or pure coincidence

[north axle]

#full-body-tracking

@hazy cloak

[hazy cloak]

Beauty!

Cheers mate

[crystal epoch]

I thought those weren't out yet?

[pastel spruce]

I've seen a few people with them

usually making suggestive poses with female avatars :P

[north axle]

You can buy them any time you want.

It's more like a "developer kit" or something, but a lot of regular users have them.

[hazy cloak]

yeah, they are out

just bloody expensive

like, stupidly so

[pastel spruce]

I've seen one person that was dancing really well with one

[hazy cloak]

You could buy a whole new vive for the cost of one

[pastel spruce]

Was actually impressive

[crystal epoch]

Heard you could just use a Kinect for full body.

[hazy cloak]

Sorry, One set

Eh, you can, but it's never going to be as good

Besides, you can whack the tracker on anything

[north axle]

Kinect sucks in comparison to the trackers.

[ocean needle]

5500 :o y so low

[crystal epoch]

Well obviously because it's a camera that was made for tracking basic/wide motions, and the VT is designed specifically for tracking 3D motion.

I think they will be cheaper when they come out of the Dev Kit state. Maybe even some other companies would make cheaper solutions because with Vive stuff you're also paying for the Brand.

[hazy cloak]

Yeah, it was a slow release because there aren't really games for it yet

VR Chat is pretty much the be-all and end-all for full body motion

[vital rune]

can I ask one very simple question

[hazy cloak]

There's a few games like Climby and soccer and such, and a really good Monster one

[vital rune]

am I fucking late to the party since I joined in like the end of 2017

[hazy cloak]

but VR Chat is the biggest

Nah

I mean, you might feel a bit bloody cheated cause the pros about to come out

[north axle]

I think Pro is gonna be pretty much the same.

Maybe with just a few improvements, like resolution and a few other things.

[hazy cloak]

Yeah but I mean to buy the original vive when it's about to get cheaper, I mean

[sturdy cove]

Until gen2 VR headsets are out I'm a fan of oculus

I mean the controllers are so much better

And oculus dash is no brainer

The only downside is lack of full body tracking

[hazy cloak]

Dash?

[sturdy cove]

But it's much cheaper

[hazy cloak]

Oh, dash. Man there's a million of those already out

To be honest, as cool as it is for all of a moment

monitors work just fine

Virtual dash boards will be worth it when you can properly pull out any number of windows, like a hologram style. But every one I've seen so far has not been like that

[crystal epoch]

Pro has better graphics, built in audio, and that's pretty much it lol.

[north axle]

They're both okay. But even though I'm a Vive user, I support Oculus for lowering the prices.

[vital rune]

RIP Oculus

motherfucking Mark Zuckerberg got them

[sturdy cove]

@hazy cloak I mean you can actually pin a desktop window in game. And type on a virtial keybord with you hands naturally, drag and press like on touch interface etx

[north axle]

Vive has similar features.

[sturdy cove]

@north axle yeah. Everything is good as long as it has VR in it and decent enough. I agree here

[crystal epoch]

@hazy cloak dashboards like the ARI from Heavy Rain. Would be 10/10

[hazy cloak]

@crystal epoch Spot on

My problem is that all virtual ones right now, even if they try to disguise it, are basically just letting you see your monitors in VR

[sturdy cove]

But not PSVR lol

[hazy cloak]

you can't TRUELY pull out windows and just toss it anywhere, ARI style

Like, I mean, why buy multiple monitors when you can have infinite with VR? Except that it doesn't exist yet 😛

[crystal epoch]

I think they have something like that already let me find it.

[north axle]

Oh yeah. PSVR is probably good only for those who already got PS.

[sturdy cove]

@hazy cloak you can pull windows in oculus dash

But the problem is resolution

[hazy cloak]

Have you used it?

Does it work well?

[sturdy cove]

Well I like the feel of it. It creates virtual 4k monitor (I mean it appears in your devices in windows device manager as well). You can move and scale windows, pin them in game, touch the virtualdesktop items like with touchscreen, type on virtual keyboard quite natural etc

On topbif that its a gsme overlay. So you'll see whats going on around you

[undone slate]

test

[lofty oracle]

What vr headsets do you guys use

[undone slate]

cool, IM ALIVE

[sturdy cove]

I mean ita nowhere near sci-fi kind of virtual monitors but its good enough for bringing desktop on game

[undone slate]

Vive HTC

[hazy cloak]

Okay that's pretty nice

[onyx heath]

i have a Rift

[hazy cloak]

The overlay in another game is nice

[sturdy cove]

I mean you can even have a discord call while in vrchat and pin it say above your head

[hazy cloak]

I use Open VR but it's not great

[lofty oracle]

What would you recommend

[hazy cloak]

VIVE

[undone slate]

VIVE!!

FTW

[north axle]

Both and neither.

[lofty oracle]

Thats the best one?

[crystal epoch]

I'm tempted to save up for a Vive. Simply because I heard it's better. But then again I'm kinda on the fence.

[hazy cloak]

Well

[wispy imp]

Pc master race

[undone slate]

full body tracking

[sturdy cove]

Well for vrchat I'd stick with oculus because of contollers

[hazy cloak]

The vive is better yes

but do you want better?

[sturdy cove]

I mean they last a week

[hazy cloak]

Are you able to afford better?

Oculus is perfectly servicable

[lofty oracle]

Vive or oculus?

[wispy imp]

Just say the name

[hazy cloak]

Especially if you just want to move aorund in VR Chat

[undone slate]

vive if you can afford it

[crystal epoch]

That's why I said save up. :p

[hazy cloak]

😛

[onyx heath]

Vive isn't worth the difference imo

difference in price*

[undone slate]

Occulus if your desprate to join us 😄

[lofty oracle]

Why

[hazy cloak]

The biggest thing with VIVE is the increased area and moddability

[north axle]

@lofty oracle It really depends on what you want and what you can afford.

[hazy cloak]

Like trackers, the new headsets, the new camera

Plus, less USB ports

which is actually a problem for me 😛

[lofty oracle]

Well it seems like vive is a winner ill get it

[sturdy cove]

Oculus:
+
Contollers
Cheap

No fullbody

Vive:
+
Fullbody

Expensive
Controllers

[hazy cloak]

jesus that was quick

[crystal epoch]

Vive is backed by Steam, Oculus is backed by Facebook.

[lofty oracle]

Yea lol

[hazy cloak]

Eh, I like the VIVE Controllers

[neat wyvern]

Speaking of the VIVE, When you're holding the controllers, how the fuck do you use your hands?

Like, putting them into fists

[undone slate]

try Virtual Boy

[hazy cloak]

Pull the trigger

or squeeze the controller

[sturdy cove]

@hazy cloak did you try oculus controllers?

[neat wyvern]

Huh

[crystal epoch]

🔫

[onyx heath]

oculus controllers are awesome

[neat wyvern]

Guess I'll settle for the VIVE then...for now...

[hazy cloak]

I've not tried them, but I've see them. They are neat and I'd say better, but not signifcantly enough

I love the VIVE controllers because a significant portion of the games I play are shooters

and they are generally better to use with that, especially if you have a stock

[crystal epoch]

I heard Vive is working on more natural controllers.

[hazy cloak]

yeah, that's been a rumour for a while

[dawn plinth]

The knuckles?

[hazy cloak]

Honestly surprised it wasn't announced with the Pro

Yeah

[sturdy cove]

@hazy cloak well not really. I know people who sold vive because of controllers. And peolle who bo vive after oculus and were cursing the controllers

[north axle]

Valve's making them, not HTC.

[dawn plinth]

Unfortunate naming while the knuckles meme is around lol.

[hazy cloak]

@sturdy cove Sold their vive cause of the controllers? Seems a little mental

[dawn plinth]

I really like the vive controllers so far.

[hazy cloak]

There's nothing wrong with them, just a different design to Oculus

I'd say the Oculus ones definitely have a better design though

[crystal epoch]

@dawn plinth Not their fault the characters name is like that.

[hazy cloak]

Even just down to more control over fingers 😛

[sturdy cove]

@hazy cloak i mean there's a trigger on oculus controller too. They aren't any worse for shooters

[onyx heath]

vive wands feel like tools

[lofty oracle]

$600 for the vive but im a big gamer so ill get it

[onyx heath]

touch controllers are an extension of your hand

[hazy cloak]

@sturdy cove No I was referring to the grip shape of them plus the size meaning you can actually mount a stock

Eh, I've never felt like they were tools

[sturdy cove]

@hazy cloak

[hazy cloak]

They feel pretty natural once you are in VR

[north axle]

I feel like both regular Vive controllers and Knuckles will be a great addition to each other for different purposes.

[crystal epoch]

If only you could just use the Oculus controller with your Vive.

[hazy cloak]

Still the biggest pain is the damned cable

[crystal epoch]

Problem solved.

[hazy cloak]

Can't wait for the wireless widgit

OH, there you go

[vital rune]

btw

[lofty oracle]

Do you think wireless vr will be a thing

[vocal shard]

Use controller X to hold controller Y in VR.

[hazy cloak]

Buy a vive because you can go wireless Q2

[sturdy cove]

I'd say oculus + lighthouses

[vital rune]

am I the only one who gets triggered if somebody mistook my/your avatar for a certain game

[hazy cloak]

@lofty oracle It already exists, and yes, VIVE literally just announced it for this year release

[vital rune]

or anime or show or whatever

[dawn plinth]

Wireless is pretty much gonna be the future for VR

And hopefully a standard at some point

[vocal shard]

Go to a shop, test both and choose the u liked more. Problem solved

[crystal epoch]

Can you use Oculus controllers with Vive?

[sturdy cove]

I'm still waiting for VR headsets gen2. I wonder what we'll see

[vocal shard]

@NanoAi#4132 no

[lofty oracle]

Technology is advancing so fast damn

[hazy cloak]

I mean, pro is sort of gen 2

[dawn plinth]

Yeah, it's great

[hazy cloak]

gen 1.5?

Like the PS4 Pro

[dawn plinth]

Vive pro is like 1.5 sorta, isn't it?

[crystal epoch]

@vocal shard Feels bad.

[north axle]

Also, if you can't afford Rift, there are WMR headsets for, like, $200 on Amazon. They're not great at all, but I would pay for what they can offer in your place.

[vocal shard]

@crystal epoch Yup.. ;-;

[hazy cloak]

The thing with VR is that we'll never see a normal GEN 2, because you can't really just upgrade the graphics and memory like in a console

[sturdy cove]

Until that time I tgink its good adea to stick to the cheapest option. Which is at leadt as good or even better for vrchat as the more expensive one

[hazy cloak]

We'll see expansions in the "bits"

Like Vive trackers and wireless widgits and such

I'd consider Gen 2 to be wireless VR

[sturdy cove]

Damn these wmr are not any kind of good for vrchat

I mean no hand tracking beside your back...

[dawn plinth]

Isn't it only front tracking?

[hazy cloak]

Blurgh

[dawn plinth]

So if they go out of view it stops tracking

[onyx heath]

you can still give head pats which is the only thing that really amtters

[hazy cloak]

VR was crap when it first came out because of zero room scale

[north axle]

WMR is fine as long as you keep your arms in front of your eyes, like a zombie.

[hazy cloak]

Sitting down in a chair was only good for like, Elite Dangerous at best

[sturdy cove]

@north axle haha lol

[hazy cloak]

VIVE and Oculus Touch revolutionized VR and I'm so glad it did

[sturdy cove]

I second that

I really glad I managed to support VR with buying a mobile headset first and then oculus

[vital rune]

can I share another pointless experience?

[north axle]

Sure.

[vital rune]

so I was strolling around in Uganda as a JoD NiGHTS

saw a bunch of Ugandan Knuckles

and one in a fucking Tank

praising their commander or whatever

[hazy cloak]

Did he scream COD russian quotes and then drive away to the russian anthem?

[vital rune]

@hazy cloak sadly no

it wasnt a soviet tank

[north axle]

*luckily

[vital rune]

Eli Ayase is dissapointed

[hazy cloak]

Well then

[sturdy cove]

@hazy cloak its the USSR anthem I believe

[vital rune]

but anyway

[hazy cloak]

not as good as the other tank in that one video

[vital rune]

I "joined" the crowd but instead of "praising" their commander

[hazy cloak]

Eh, russians were soviet

[vital rune]

I just danced right in front of em

[hazy cloak]

soviets were russians

[vital rune]

and they got fucking triggered, including the tank

SPIT ON THE DANCER!!!

like dude I was just dancing what's your problem

chill the fuck out

[crystal epoch]

I like how Vive still hasn't perfected a release for the Knuckles when Oculus is already working on this...

https://www.wareable.com/oculus-rift/oculus-rift-vr-gloves-video-demonstration-hand-tracking-5869