#vrchat-general-2
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I've not used force at all to date
just finished uploading the model, I'll test it now and report back
Grav is set to 0.001 y
gravity appears to work, but it has to be quite extreme decimals. Its pretty much floating though.. and has an annoying amount of drag while running.
like, even with collision bones set, it still goes through them.
thats realy what gravity is going to do
its going to pull down your model if you rotate it
via y axis
Although, noticed I didn't put the -in
while force x y z axis affects how much it gets pulled down in general
Ah, it sets up things for a dynamic bone to collide with
ok
Ah, so force is a safer bet?
Any recommended amount for the vertical?
Clearly, quite extreme decimals need to be used hehe
Thinking -0.01 for now
havent used gravity nor force, so I cant give you a recomendation
Bah, trial and error
.. with a 10 minute upload gap..
I'm guessing vrc has its own physics handlers given the gap in behavior between unity renders and vrc.
I need help does anybody know a fix for the issue that you cant touch the ground in vr?
.. 'fraid that issue plagues me too
When calibrating the headset's height, put it on the floor, but try entering 10cm
... actually, no, don't do that, wrong way about
Raise it off the floor but enter 0
Which Headset are you using?
Is there a way to see who made a world?
so Im planning on getting a microsoft vr headset, anyone has one?
Hey sad weeb
Just finished uploading, ken. I'll let ya know how it goes hehe
I have your profile pic as a avatar inside vrc pfft find me 😉
@vocal shard bought mine yesterday just getting it delivred
lmao
@tranquil warren I seen like two poeple with her avatar, I wanna learn blender and unity so bad
This is what happened with gravity
in unity it looks normal?
I think even -0.01 is too high
ill private message you a really good video
It barely even moves in unity
I'm assuming it sets the position relative to its current position in world units
wait i thoughnt you said you'd use force instead
I added the middle finger to it
The large and muscular @vocal shard
Does the same in gravity, but it floats more in gravity
you said this is what happened with gravity
Yup, by that I mean, "this also happened in gravity"
ah i see
yeah thats why I dont touch gravity nor force lol
why dont oyu just keep it as is? its supposed to be fluffy
Yeah, I'd be leaving them alone to be honest, cus it works as is with elasticity etc
The issue is I feel it sticks up at the ends too much
@vocal shard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWu15n9rg_g
I wanted to make it use gravity so I could loosen the stiffness a bit, that way I can pick it up without it just vibrating around
I'll try increasing the decimal places
@vocal shard Use one on my laptop, not perfect but it's like 85% of the way there for the price
Iunno your budget sad weeb but..
@covert chasm sorry for interupting you, how long does it take for me to receive a verification code
when it comes to tech which is likely harmful to your vision and wellbeing, I go for the more expensive stuff
yeah I seen people using microsoft mr on vr chat and games, it looks pretty great
i have the dev acer one
the dell one that just came out seems to do the job pretty well
they're all pretty much the exact same
From what i know, they all use the same basic framework, its mostly aesthetic differences.
Which is a bit part in it, I suppose. Weight and external light in mind
do you guys have an opinion on whats better, an oculus or a lenovo windows mixed reality headset
I dont realy want to fork out an extra hundred if lenovo is just as good
Oculus in my opinion since I’m bias as I have one
Isn't oculus vr though?
Wow I just realized I made the FFXI worlds almost 2 years ago now
Whilst lenovo is mr
MR is just microsoft's terrible term for VR
Slight differences in how they work in general
it's all inclusive of vr, ar, etc
but the headsets are exclusively vr, there's no passthrough
Anything microsoft comes up with which is new, I question hehe.
Still sour from the kinect, windows 8, windows phones and the "home entertainment system" with drm up its butt.
its like a hundred dollars cheaper tho becuase of built in tracking on the headset
And might draw
And whoever thought maing windows store games run on a ported xbox operating system
yeah, the built-in tracking is super great
you own one, kazy?
Who wants a free drawing
Of their VR character
i have the dev version of acer
Built in tracking sounds great, lost track of the amount of times my hands have floated offscreen cus my body obscured the IR sensors on my vive controller.
by far the easiest to set up and get going
Well the hands have to be seen by the front facing cameras to work 😛
but it's a bit higher FoV than what you see
and it does some math to figure out if you reach behind you but it's not perfect
I'm surprised they didn't combine both external and internal tracking
they do
!clearcache
oh you mean with sensors
Yeah
not much point really
will camera tracking still be fine if im looking forward and my hands are just on my stomach?
Like, I think the vive does track the headset if anything
C:\Users[Username]\appdata\LocalLow\VRChat
but the hands, not so much
I've never had any problems tracking hands on the vive
You get 'em if the IR towers are blocked
@ashen wadi
Same with body trackers
(except the time where my curtains were IR transparent and threw everything off)
They're a lot smaller, so your t-shirt can block it
yes hello
oh
i think?
It's smart enough to know where your hands are if you go just off camera and stop
Yeah, it predicts sort of
I just want a quick draw but if you don't one it oki
oh, you've owned one too shiina?
Well, its just generally what vr does if it loses track
Tries to predict movement
... usually works well but..
I've had my hands go under the map before
im back
server died?
hey guys
Server seems fine to me, just uploaded a model
do you know what will make someone happy if they feel down
Ey ken, gonna try -0.001 now hehe.
oh i need to fix my avatar
prepare for more skirt-through floor
for some reason the camera is like at the top of the head instead of eyeline
IPD?
I generally match my models to my irl height, so I'm not entirely privvy to how height reacts to differences
But I think IPD helps a lot.
is it bad if your ipd is like 1 mm off
.. same skirt issue as before, I guess I'll leave force disabled
I think 1mm should be fine if you're talking vrc 1mm
.. annnd depends on if you use vr or not I suppose
lenovo's max ipd is like 67 while i have 68
idk if its worth getting that extra 1mm for 100 bucks with an oculus
lol
Iunno, 100 bucks is a days work, nah?
i wonder where you work then :')
Also you trying to do dynamic bones right? With what i learned so far its best to just never tuch the gravity setting
Yeah, I was trying to apply the smallest gravity force possible to a skirt to make it float down after I touch it instead of it glitching about cus of elasticity setting
But it either glitches through the floor or goes full moon physics
Sorta given up, I'll need to fine tune elasticity and stuff.
You gonna be trying for around 2 hours though to get it right 
Its apain to get perfect
Its seems also Microsoft MR is compatible with all vr steam games (once you download that steam beta mr thing) damn yeah I was on the fence but I guess imma get that $220 headset
Here's assuming the servers don't go down.
i keep my headset on just move it above my eyes and for uploading i just disable future proofing because gotta live the risky life
ugh
Ah, I gotta take mine off, my clearance area is on the other side of the room, and there's like 4-5 cables
this guy just admitted to hacking
he keeps stealing props with teleport hacks
putting it all under the map
@errant sigil record him
I haven’t met a hacker yet in vr chat.
I've met a couple with modified clients
They've never trolled or anything ,just stolen my model and name
@brazen path just gotta click on there avatar and go to details
It often works to find the proper name.. not saying it always works but eh
Also staff can still work with it and they wont ban false people so there is no harm
Once a hacker steals a avatar do they keep it forever ?
Yeah, but the back end user IDs are spoofed, oclac
@vocal shard untill they logg off
Oh
They use players like pedistals basically, weeb
Had one today with an exploit that made everything glaring white, with rainbow flashing floors for the whole world.
At least they don’t keep OC avatars but it still sucks
@brazen path Dont they just take the things client side...
They steal the full avatar id but names are diffrent so far i know
They can save the Avatar
Indeed, spent weeks on my current one.
It's clearly in the files
For some scumbag to come along and lift it...
There's even a commands to erase a saved avatar
There we go, hehe.
Its an issue with the open endedness of the unity upload system to be honest
Its far too easy for someone to modify the sdk not to check user files
... then they can upload literally anything under the radar
Damn. I’m not surprise. With the sudden surge in popularity in this game it’s no surprise their are shitty people. Kinda wish the devs would sell the game at lease $10 so they can get some monetization to efficiently work on the game.
$10 charge would keep all the meme-tards out too
It's how Something Awful did it
all the desktop players who just join to pla as knuckles
for like..
2 hours
then leave.
Its good in a way though, it has forced the devs to tackle the security challenges
!online
There are 9144 users in VRChat currently
They'd have to do it sooner or later.
It officially launched over a year ago lol
It was just a time before the securit stuff would happen
I was there for 1.0
Thought it was still EA?
Its unity so protection is a pain to do
Unless that changed
You'd be surprised by the amount of decent people who wouldn't have played it if it costed money
Well, yaeh.
I've been playing since I had the DK2
And it clearly says beta everytime you open the menu lol
I dunno if I'd have bought it had it costed
.. and with that I wouldn't have bought vr either
or learned 3D modelling, unity, texture editing, and so on.
Hell, I even learned bits of C# due to it.
Yeah this taught me a bit of unity
Dude I've learned so much from VRChat I could probably get a job as a game artist.
Well the devs gotta make some money some how. I want this game to be bigger and better in the future. Cause if this game, a lot of people I know who were never interested in vr are buying vr headsets in droves. And they’ll get to see other great vr games too
Far as I know they have funders.
I'd say let us donate
Especially most people who join don't know anything other than the meme side
I saw a jameskii video, thought it looked hilarious and wanted to see what it was all about
And I found out there was a lot more to it
Iunno if you've ever used a knuckles avatar in vr, but..
I say the "tank" memes are the worst.
It was clearly not made for VR. The viewpoint is very far from the body, hands don't work
I think it only has neck, head and spine
I wouldn't have paid to investigate what I thought was just a meme parade
.. sorta makes its purpose obvious.
Minimal-effort desktop-user-targetted meme avatar.
i hope my vr headser shipping will arrive in my country today
Spoilers, ship sank
My courier made me travel to the nearest city to pick up my vr.
Somalian pirates
^
Knocked the door once, ignored my notice on my door asking them to phone.
Then took it 40 miles down the road
I should upload my 20' bahamut avatar
And left it at a hardware store
@ashen wadi whats your ipd?
That sucks.
Didn't even tell me.
65
Top quality customer service
fuck, im 1mm off lenovos max
Yup, the joys of DPD.
yeah i'm lucky to be straight average
i dont want to wait so long for my vr headset oof
i think dell has a bigger one. but samsung (the only one not on sale) is the only one with a manual adjuster
Depends where you order from lion
go to a microsoft store and try one out
if one's near you
They shipped it pretty much overnight from birmingham up to my land where ginger people wear tartan skirts and throw trees
.. makes up for the £20 delivery charge I suppose.
Brb, testing changes to dynamic bones.
when can we pick up knuckles players
MrQ used to have scripts on his AV that spawned elevators to shoot people up
amazon says it will arrive next week >.>
Out of no where I got stuck with a 7 day temp ban for sexually innaproppriate avatar, which is completely false. Is there a way to appeal?
there's an email for feedback in the rules
Any of yalls got them good good voice changers? Not them shitty free squeeky ones. DMs pls
sorry for the ping kazy, wrong person!
@late cloud Send an email to moderation@vrchat.net
Audacity and a whole lot of work goes a long way.
@granite drift Thanks, but thankfully it seemed to have been resolved before having to need to do that.
To a degree, yeah.
Requires a lot of setup work.
Stereo Mix, A seperate audio channel, Audacity, and broadcasting through VR is like a day's worth of work.
But if you put alot of effort into the effects on audacity, you can have some pretty clean stuff.
Can someone tell me why it won't verify my email? it says its sent the verification email but it never actually appears in my inbox?
@vocal shard sometimes it may take a while to get it, i once was waiting on it for some days until i tried again
o rip
Its cuz yesterday I made a Kirito Avatar and I wanted to see it ingame to see if it worked properly
But then realised I was using my Steam Account and tried to switch over
but it was like nahh
so my game just kinda blackscreens now for some reason
vrchat lagging for anyone else?
imagin if VRC had an arcade world with a game like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rIjcRK_BNU
Hot
good morning guys
its hot
Hello again
how do you sit on somebody's shoulders with full body trackers? I've seen people do it.
Saw a guy that had his calibrated to the floor but was sitting on his bed so it looked like he was balancing on his tail earlier.
lol
Hey, I have a bit of a problem, my play area is hovering ~30cm over the actual ground. How can I fix that, I can't pick up items on the ground (using the vive btw)
is there a world with an itachi avatar?
Anyone know what the Average wait time for the Verification Email is? I've been waiting for it since yesterday. 😐
There might be a "resend verification email" button or something
There is but even when I click that and wait for about 10 - 20 minutes nothing happens
:\
I got a new error whilst trying to resize my VRChat window.
"Switching to resolution 1518x1017 failed, trying lower one
All resolution switches have failed
Screen: DX11 could not switch resolution (1518x1017 fs=0 hz=0)"
Now it keeps saying that every time I restart it.
Check your spam folder, that's where mine ended up.
my window is stuck as a microscoptic thing in the top left as far as i can tell
all i can click on it is the x
which is mostly offscreen
and fullscreen doesnt work
tab out, hit the maximize button on the window
it's offscreen
does anyone have the project file for that black hair red scarf blue eyes ooka miko?
I really want it.
welp, at least i am now just back to the one issue
which is my game being completely black
loading screen, hub, everything is just black
To maximize a selected window without clicking the button, press windows key + up (or alt+enter for fullscreen)
And is it completely black, or the galaxy background image?
black, completely
i hear some noises like the loading screen noise
or when i tried loading into the winter hub city thing i heard the music
but that's about it
vr or non vr?
non vr
I think it's just login servers being weird, how long has it been like that?
since yesterday night
tho the last time i was on thatfunctioned was the day before
so the night from friday to saturday
there has been a windows update since, not sure if that's related or not
I still wonder why my left hand just flies off into space half the time.
My window gets like that when I accidentally grab it when it's active
Stupid question but did you restart your PC?
Whenever I get screen troubles, restarting my computer wipes it
That's weird, it could be Windows. Is there anything in the log file?
Is it possible to upload while playing vr chat
Yeah, just detach the id and upload it and it should appear after a few minutes.
yes
at both , dream and soraka
when you hit the little arrows on your personal avatars, it refreshes them
or tries to
Does anyone know how to fix the problem when u plug ur Vr into your pc/laptop you can’t hear anything and VRchat refuses to work?
yeah i can hear, move, open menues etc
it's just all black
just changed my world to the pug and could hear the doorbell as i walked in
Sounds like your Windows or GPU disagrees with VRChat after your Windows update
watching people have complete giggle breakdowns is the best time
Is there a world with really good drawing apps? I have seen presentation room and. sculpting room
whats been happening
Talking about the avatar stealers? It's temp anyways, they can't keep them
Due to the newly released Intel flaw, any Javascript on a webpage can read the saved passwords in your browser lol
your avatar got stolen aswell?
JS can according to the sites I've been reading on, they even had JS example code
They'll patch it
yeaahhh riiigghhttt
Google was aware of this shit and tried to warn them
but only passed it off as a spook story
There's two new attacks, one also targets AMD and ARM processors, so pretty much every cpu made after 1995 is vulnerable (except some old atoms or something)
...and this is a long time ago
Game modes such as Steel n Gold, CTF, and Bowling are bugged. Steel n Gold and CTF doesn't place players into the game when it starts. In bowling, if you do not get a strike, the pins become invisible forever until a new instance is made.
I can confirm
That explains why only my lane worked when I went bowling, I used the light that appears when you rightclick to aim so I basically only got strikes
yea Bowling is broken
which is a damn shame
since its my favorite activity in VRChat
seeing me playing Bowling properly is so jarring
kinda silly seeing people avoid the game in fear of their avatar being stolen when they didnt make the model or texture in 99% of cases
yes indeed but some people have
I just wish I could favorite models ;_:, but it's whatever.
however i can say i only import tryed to do rigging but its a pain and making a model is a pain too
The amount of hackers has been drastically reduced in my experience.
Meanwhile, I've never actually run into one.
rigging is polarizing since blender control is weird
I remember talking with someone about yanderes here, and he convinced me that yanderes are dangerous, but then i was bored af, so I went into YouTube and searched for yandere stories, and hearing some horror stories and watching that yandere simulator com.... whatever it is called, I just said to myself " well man, yanderes aren't bad, they're just obssessed with their crush, and if there are girls who worship bands like 1D, then I wont mind if I had a girl who worships and s 100% protective."
indeed
'le infinite loading screen?
only patient people enough to learn rigging properly like manual rigging
yes
i only now how to put bones in the right places however doing paint waiting is fucking bad for me
uh you need to set your launch args to escape i believe
what
🇺🇬
If you trust Google you've misunderstood someting
duckduckgo/startpage/searx are better engines
Anyone know how long the wait for a Verification email normally takes?
What do I do when a loli is going under my dress and going "Is my home."
man
Oh I completely understand what google does with my data
slap it
I have encountered the greatest person I ever encounter in VRChat
She ran under and went "Honey I'm home."
a person that ACTUALLY recognized the entirety of Muse, Frank West and Doomguy
why are you running
And then made some noises
I showed him Nozomi, Nico, Maki, Eli and Honoka
and knew all of them
tho he's dissapointed that there's no Yoshiko/Yohane
I jokingly went "Holy shit is that doom guy!" to some master chiefs
lmfao
hahah lol
I've never felt so happy
shame he didnt recognize the FEAR 2 Replica dude and the RE characters I have
And I saw another sans undertale
Shame people use avatrs they don't recognize where they come from.
ISG you wana see a rebecca chambers model someone made me?
sure
Mkey it's just her cowgirl outfit
but yea, this prompt me to finish the Muse gang
and then do more soldier/mercenary characters
But I'm trying to port her stars outfit over to vrchat
Sounds like fub
another extremely rare sight
*fun
I still got my mandark model to do
I wonder if they have molded models from RE 7 yet
nah not yet
Or a Birkin one
The more nightmare inducing the better, I seen a Nemesis walking about
yea saw it like two-three times in my entirety of VRChat
Same
the first time I saw him, a Nico avatar was alongside him with full VR
Well I think either that or 4 times
fucking Void Club
First time I was using some trap model
Felix is good to use when knuckles are about
its even hilarious in hindsight that a school idol is alongside a Umbrella B.O.W
Lol
excessive bodyguard
The second I see a jack baker model available
I'm gonna port it
Or an Evelyn one
Gotta figure out particle effects and custom animations out first though
Im about to do few STALKER avatars
Ooouuuu
@plain current Jack baker already excists
VRChat hates it
Just get it from Gmod workshop
There you go

Always CHECK GMOD, SFM Or SFM LAB about this stuff
Padoru is the best
How do I get it into blender 🤔

Nosa I got access to a Santa Lilly Jeanne Alter that when it spawns in a world for the first time plays the padoru sound bit
since he's in a game that nobody but in Asia even plays
@plain current check your pms dude
I gotta check if everything is mapped right on a model later
wait ISG what model was you looking for?
I was counting how many avatars I have
you mentioned one earlier up top
707 is part of it
I have like 7 male characters and 5 females, all of which consist of Muse
goddamn I need to take a break from this shit
I don't
I got my project que like on high
I gotta get through a chunk of them before I take five
Is rigging for vr more of a pain than rigging for desktop?
probably
rigging is ABIT of a pain for vr, put belongs you have the rig angles and the rig placemtns of bones. You should be all good.
Got it
I meanually rigged my Models that i ported in for some of my anime characters
besides
my fucking VRChat experience with all 9 Muse members is going to be the unofficial sequel to the movie
so only problem i got is not 180 angle which isn't a big deal since i don't do full body tracking
Long as I can crouch down and give head pats I'm good
Or just grab shit normallt
*normally
Should be fine, Then, Fullbody i believe is like with leg trackers i believe
So you should be good
Yay
I have to wait 3 more weeks before i get my HTC, and then I'll start experimenting
Particles, Sounds, Move sets with hand gestures ETC
Dabbibg
what verion of unity i have to have
I wana make a logan paul model that emits demonitization symbols and nooses when it dabs
5.6.3p1
thx
No no
It's referencing when he went to japan (and shat all over the country) and he went to the suicide forest there and uploaded a video that contained a dead body in it
Uncensored, not even cut
Ik.
But uhh if that model isn't allowed then I'll not put any effort into attempting to make something like that, I got plenty of other material for edgy humor
Which is usually executed late at night when sleep deprevation kicks in
btw

I originally plan to port an Afrika Korp guy in VRChat
but seeing fear that I would get banned for Nazi imagery
Huh?
I decided I won't
ISG I seen hitler in vrchat
then again I saw a fucking Hitler in VRChat
I seen nazi shit in vrchat used ironically
complete with germanic propaganda shit
there's even an ODST guy ironically doing the salute
Yea that is the same when i wanted to POrt Richtofen into VRCHAT. 
taking vrchat serious
not taking it serious
I mean I seen a third reich knuckles shouting nazi propaganda
Just don't wanna get banned
Then a soviet knuckles tank came in blasting the soviet national anthem at full blast, spooking the nazi knuckles away
Like one blasted, two more tanks came in after
oh man
Soviet National Anthem at full blast
Eli Ayase would have a fucking field day with that
If that was planned, that was amazing
since she's partially russian
Honestly, this game is helping me learn other languages
Sort of
I gotta practice my Espanol a bit
I saw a richtofen in vrchat @solemn sapphire just had any nazi imagery removed from it
hello everyone
Fun fact: the swastika originally was a buddhist symbol of peace before the nazis tainted it's meaning
I'm not joking about that
no shit
@shy nest Wait what version of richtifen as it?
and did he have a raygun on his back?
if so that would be my richtofen
uhh no idea just remember that it was a richtofen with a red armband where the nazi symbol would usually be
Ah
i blocked and muted someone yesterday and he's literally back and pestering me again
rip
chasing me around and asking me things that are not okay.
@dusk dagger Block them again. If they come back again, #moderation-reports
alright
is there a way to message VRChat friends?
Unless you know their discord/steam, none.
ah 😦 it would be a useful feature
Rae's retreat is a great world.
guys need help my freand having diffucalty creating an vrchar account with error code 401 can't create account
So blocks aren’t permanent? Or...?
They are unless the person removes the block on you.
So much work running around as a bartender.
Ah. Was confused how they got unblocked then
My feet hurt.

r the servers down for the web cos i cant verifyed my other account
I dont know as i cant tell
okay
Either wait 10 mins for the email or contact them: support@vrchat.com
i do have the email just dose not verify it
Well you need contact them with the email support they have
ok
Mutiple reasons why your account isnt getting a email
It could be blocked by spam or very slow so it didnt bother sending a email
@timid light I know it sounds dumb, but go to vrchat website and put your email in again. I had to do this twice but it finally sent it
Servers maybe down
but dont worry about its just anather account for a freind cos he could not get his account for some reason he gets an error code called 401
lucky lol
A buddy of mine kept having to confirm his email, some tricky stuff happens with that sometimes.
indeed
I have the worse comes to games
any one know where i can find MMD - Date A Live - Yoshino
Negitive
Any reccomendations for vr headset for vr chat
I havent set any yet, ill just save for whatever i want.
I want 2 controllers with it atleast
:o
HTC VIVE VR has everything i need but damn that price <.<
the guy in the video seems to like his headset alot
just waiting for mine to be delivred
@proud notch its worth the price.
Does the gen 1 oculus work with vrchat btw 🤔
yh
but if i want arm motion is it enough to get controllers ?
So i can use them with gen 1 oculus 🤔
It does, but even WMR is way better than Rift DK1.
Yea, im just pretty sure i can get a super cheap DK1
My friend bought the new oculus so he has one left over
my friend is getting the login error, is it down for anyone else?
I wouldn't suggest it.
yaa the wmr is wayyyyyyyy better then dk1 or dk2
I think it's super laggy or something with DK1.
DK2 isn't great either, but at least it's not a complete garbage can.
does anyone active in this chat have a wmr
I know one person who has WMR.
same lion
He bought it several weeks ago, said he liked it as his first VR HMD, but now he's considering Vive or Rift, because WMR is just not comfortable.
which version did he get
Acer, I think.
the blue one?
yeah the one im getting review said tracking not bad
It's not just that.
With any WMR headset you have to constantly keep your hands in front of your head, kinda like a zombie.
Nah, trust me, you'll like it if you never tried VR before and if your expectations aren't too high.
i borrwed my freinds vive for a few weeks aha
Well, then it's gonna suck.
Does WMR even have sensors or is it all headbased tracking for the hands?
also its not really true that you need your hands in front of you always
Maybe I'd suggest Rift. I have my Vive, but I don't feel like HTC are treating customers as well as Oculus do right now, even though they're a part of an evil company now.
@odd ravine the headset tracks everything
@north axle How so?
i think the wmr is the best rn
I want the wmr because it looks to require less on computer then the others
@odd ravine The only thing HTC offered to me as an early adopter was the trial of the Viveport subscription or something, and Viveport is just full of garbage.
but the game will require the same thing
@north axle Why should you get something as an early adopter? Thats kind of the point of early adoption, you go in knowing that its not the final product or price.
so lion do u enjoy using vr chatr with ur lenvo?
Shh, I know, I'm just salty because I bought it right before the price drop.
@lean mortar
It would be nice if Steam would bite the bullet on the deluxe audio strap and just make that standard
Steam has nothing to do with HTC.
i mean Steam has all the money so i think they could spare 100 bucks per headset
Dont they own the vive though?
I wish Valve bought the rights to sell HTC Vive.
Hey guys
Gaben will rule all soon
Does anyone here have any cool shaders for unity by chance?
I would hope so. Of all greedy companies, I actually like only Valve at some point.
He will sit atop a thron of Nvidia cards and when he is pleased he shall rain upon us an endless wave of bitcoins
isn't htc vive owned by valve already?
@vocal shard i said im waiting on shipping 🙃
oh right
@jaunty apex thats what im sayin
nice
I might need another sensor
@sterile bone Too true
My play area is a bit small tbh
Did I miss the news on Valve/HTC?
i bought a hp mixed reality (its vr i dont know why they called it mr) it came with the controlers but no headset
@north axle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pJwOa4qEOY Recap of CES
But I heard the rift is better than the vive so idk
Idk whos SteamVR constantly crashes cause my works fine
Bought my rift on black friday. Expected it to be gimmicky but so far i've been blown away. To this day.
Where's Valve in the video? @odd ravine
Its only more comfortable cause it weighs less
@forest prairie wait how did it come with no headset nani?
I think my PC is just being dumb as fuck
@north axle oh you meant news about Valve owning HTC
@north axle pretty much for htc vive it was htc vive pro and wireless adapter for said htc vive pro
I've had no issues with my rift so far. worth it for the price compaired to vive tbh
It's just me then
When i say Valve owns the Vive i mean that i think that they own the headsets patent but outsource the manufacturing to HTC
I only have two right now
But small play area
Do you get a grey screen occasionally in VRchat?
A big plus so far that i see with rift are all the free games.
I guess the original patent was owned by someone from id Software, but that's more related to the Oculus issue.
Where it kicks you out of it and has a vrchat loading screen in steamVR
or even just grey
Well yeah the loading screen thing happens, but I assume that's vrchat
what is the stuffies called that tracks ur legs
From what i just read it seems that Valve had the idea for Vive but since Valve doesn't have factories and stuff they had HTC build it for them
No really bad tracking issues in other games
Honestly, I think I'm too tall and too close to my sensors. I'm 6"4 and about 3/4 of a metre away from my sensors
So it cant track me properly
Oh yeah that's tall, lol
I need a bigger area and to move further back
@odd ravine About the HTC/Valve collab, in short words, Valve made the software, and HTC are producing the hardware.
Can you mount them higher?
I can try to
@north axle yes so theoretically Valve could make a deal with HTC to supplement the 100 dollar cost of each audio strap themselves
one of em is a bit low
which i think they are going to do with the Vive Pro to make the price friendlier
You could also try the diagonal setup for better 360 tracking.
It could be possible.
I bought some usb extention cables that are coming in tomorrow myself, hoping that will fix the little things for me
okay im bk whats happening
If you have 2 sensors you definately want diagonal setup
Yeah I want to do the diagonal thing tbh. Imma try that when the cables come in
Vard mentioned that in his experience it's way better to place 2 sensors on the same side of the area.
I have an almost diagonal thing rn
like one is in front and the other is on the side
I guess, either leave them on the front side, or buy a 3rd one.
Yeah a 3rd is supposed to make it much better, but that costs $$
SDMG you get yours working with usb3?
Hey, I keep having this problem with my right vive wand, where I can't turn and it just moves forward instead and then my mic keeps muting itself. Any ideas?
@remote raven are you trying to use the touchpad to turn right in VRchat?
Yeah
Yeah it just started last night out of nowhwere
i can turn left with it but not right sometimes
check your controller
make sure the touchpad is completely free moving in every direction
Oh I cant turn at all, just when I press right, it moves forward
I turned off the whole vive AND restarted my PC
must be a VRchat specific bug
Im thinking so
btw how is audioshield? It looks amazing
Its fun, pretty good workout to be honest
looks like VR guitar hero
where you guys download your models ?
iam curious cause most of the models on the site iam using are not working :x
I got it free with the vive
oh you got the bundle
@vocal shard i dont, i am of the firm idea that their should be a character creator in game
so i dont download models
@odd ravine Don't worry about Fallout 4, I heard it's so unoptimized that it's pretty much trash.
It's also probably the worst Fallout game in the series.
Agreed
It's not bad, just the worst, probably.
I'm really looking forward to VR in Rockstar's games.
That would be sick
but their games are so big they might run into optimization problems
I remember running GTA V on my old PC that could barely play Battlefield 3 with 20-30 FPS.
I just ordered a headset yay
It was all right, but driving was just a whole new level of uncomfortable.
lol
Congratz, Palm.
@split vortex which one?
Dell wmr
I've had the cv1 before
I guess its alright, just remember you get what you pay for
Too much screendoor effect
I think there should be places setup where people can try all the current headsets and compare them
like a phone store for VR headsets
If the wmr was at retail price of 400 then no way I'd go oculus
But it's on sale rn so it's a no brainer
Way more in my budget
Yeah, it's okay if it costs 200.
Plus when I had the cv1 it was super cluttered at my desk
yo
The vr I do is mostly stand up and desk area
But screen-door is an issue with all headsets at the moment.
I dont get people that say that
"screendoor is a problem"
i dont see it most of the time
It's just something we have to deal with for the time of current generation of VR.
It wasn't that bad with the oculus but I hear it's better with wmr cause the res bump
And I'm a pixel whore
Just don't get too excited.
And be ready to break immersion a lot because of tracking.
Do you have one?
I know someone who has.
Everyone I know that has one says they're great
And videos have shown tracking to be perfectly functional even in "non supported" games
It works fine in fallout 4 vr even for example
I did way too much research trust me lol
I mentioned earlier that Nip bought WMR this month. He likes it, but it's really uncomfortable for him, so he's going to buy Vive/Rift a bit later.
The problem itself is that you must hold the hands in front of your headset all the time.
Not necessarily
It works either way, sure, but it breaks the immersion.
They just have to be in a 180 degree general fov and there's positional tracking for the back that helps
It's not as accurate as the vive or rift but it's damn near close and perfect for games
I just don't understand the stigma of trashing wmr lol
Actually, now I get it why it's called "Mixed Reality," even though it's just VR. Without the immersion, you don't really feel like you're in the virtual environment.
In Europe, mixed reality is 500€
@jaunty apex Amazon sells them for $200 in the US, that's the dream.
Yeah, but you're from Europe, a damn mixed reality headset costs more than a oculus rift bundle
if you're*
@split vortex Not true
I was stating a fact calm down
I actually love the prices on Amazon.
Oculus supports full roomscale with enough sensors
Yeah but you gotta dish out the money for the extra $60 sensors
you can do roomscale with 2 sensors
@odd ravine And don't forget hand controllers. Also, for some people full-body tracking feels like a must.
if you set it up correctly
@north axle Full body tracking would be amazing
How much does full body tracking, vr headset, hand controllers, x? sensors amount to?
i wanted to learn to dance like a korean pop star then go into the void club with full tracking and bust it out
alas my computer cant handle vrchat most of the time ;<
how many vive trackers would one need for them legs ?
You need a bunch of vive sensors for full tracking
@slender grove Either Kinect or 3 Vive Trackers for hips and legs.
One for each leg and one for your waist I think
Obviously enough, Kinect is a cheaper alternative.
I heard Kinect is shit though
so hips, knees, foot ?
But those sensors are like fucking 100 a pop
But it still works.
kinect cheaper
?
Also, no, not the knees, @proud notch. Just one for the hips and two for the legs.
You can get a kinect 2.0 for $80 USD on amazon
As i said to my veiwers, "The only thing i want to do is dance as an anime" 😆 .
You don't even need VR for that.
y same
shh, its about the experience XD
Wait you can use kinect for full body tracking?
Dude, I have one that I never use
Is anyone else experiencing an issue whereby games such as CTF don't teleport players into the game?
Yes, Jake
Yeah ctf and the western games are broken right now.
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😢
Feelsbadman
also theres problems with the bowling. Unless you get a strike alot of things disapear. Playing in hard more
Had to have someone respawn and kill everyone for it to work
Reminds me of a friend who keeps telling me that he's not going to enter VRChat until he gets his own headset, but he's poor as hell, so I guess he won't be joining me till 2022.
He said, "It's the experience." I still don't get it.
If so, krissy, Imma have full body tracking boi
shieet
Like I have one that I've never used
I presume the thing ps3 had too, works
I bet it does. people have used that for cheap vr on youtube
Almost went that route, but it's not as good as real vr
found this "real vr experience" oculus thingy for 2000$ haha
@odd ravine Ok so FO4VR works fine, so its just VrChat
wha?
in a few years vr headsets will be the same price aas ps3's
$2000? wtf?
that isn't US$ I hope
yo, if u guys ever find a Kennen Bloodmoon mmd model. Hmu
2200$*
Yeah I can't read that page, lol
the package looks like something ive found for half the price, maybe the store just likes pricey things
its in norwegian dont worry fam
Yeah I was thinking it was somewhere around there. My guess was swedish

Haha I have to many people like that added, Dswopey. I have randoms added when I play drunk
adds sound unity removes character that doesnt have animations and fucks everything up
something like that kinect der
Yeah I just used my rift for some rift applications
No hitches or bugs, tracks and works great
VRchat though, lags and tracks weirdly sometimes
I think it's the servers. mine is the same way. gets jumpy if I join a world with a lot of people
How much power does the htc vive take btw ?
Like my laptop runs vrchat fine, shouuld i worry about the htc vive eating power
VRchat only really lags on great pug and places with lots of people. But my GPU and CPU are great so idk
yeah
servers need fixing
Anyone use nolo?
I'd reccomend a rift krissy
@odd ravine FIXED, I reinstalled vrchat
Can your laptop handle vr though?
Cheaper, has access to both oculus and steam VR, lighter on your head and better controllers
Im not very good hardware wise
oh I thought you meant your specs were bad
I'll just buy some pc parts for my old dekstop instead
