#vrchat-general-2
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For proof: How many models were stolen before this glitch was discovered?
you can steal content from SL directly from the asset server in fact
@cedar granite But what if a user records footage of "me" being an arse to people and sends it in? There won't be any unique ID attatched to that
@cedar granite So the issue is solely avatars being stolen? (And impersonation, but it won't lead to being banned)
Sorry for @ spam lol
With thousands of people online, there's a very low risk of that happening
No worries ๐
what about the username issue
As he said each player has a unique ID that can't be changed
So you won't get banned
This is off topic the topic of discussion right now, but, how many of you are getting grey screens in VRchat? I can play FalloutVR for hours w/o incident, but I'm lucky to go an hour in VRchat w/o having to reboot my headset and recalibrating my controllers
@cedar granite I have terrible luck, so if anyone gets hit by it, it would probably be me
thanks a lot @oblique wing
@torn shoal also you can stick to friends+ or more private instances and should be okay
I dunno about others who make their content from scratch but I'm going back to Unreal until this is solved :B
I mean, the unique ID can't be changed
Did they patch the glitch where private instances werent private?
but you're also not supposed to be able to steal avatars
I often get grey screens in VRChat, no other vr games do that but I think it happens because the server is having trouble processing whats going on at the time
so I dunno how much of a relief that is
@wise surge Exactly.
If only had friends 
I mean there's always been that sort of risk with the video reporting. i wager it wouldnt be too dificult to make a avatar with your nametag above it, turn off the proper nametag and take a video then.
I believe they've patched that, but best way is to look at announcements or patch history
it shouldn't be possible in general
sounds like they can change a unique ID if they really want to
No thats not how it works
The ID would be your identity and the username would be an afterthought retrieved by the ID
So the username could probably be changed since it's just an extra piece on your account, not very secure
henlo
That was a bad way of explaining it but you get what I mean
Devs should use this hack code and repurpose it as a custom avatar pedestal that allows people to actually save that avatar to their account.
!online
There are 13035 users in VRChat currently
Just think of how a normal database works ๐
why would anyone make a saveable avatar, they're used to get people into your world
Avatar stands
Rip @vocal shard
If you have to rely on avatars to get people into your world then your world isn't cool enough.
DISLIKE HIM
I mean
DO IT
It might just be an avatar world
get shamed
But okay
I'm just gonna hold off until there's more info on this

I like pizza.
@crystal epoch my world will blooow your miiiiind
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I don't feel safe playing like this
bullied
cyber bullying
@vocal shard Don't be racist.
Damn troll.
@torn shoal dont worry
โ
rip
Puprle
purble place
THE REACRS
Sure.
DAMN
that's a given lol
inb4 we all get banned for using emojis to react to comments
god just fuck already
Pizza
No pe๐ ฑ e allowed
This is some really weird use of reacts

boneless pizza?

but tbh i havent seen reacts be used outside of announcements or pins
@inland root just reading throught the roadmap on suggestions
https://i.imgur.com/zBdWJus.png
deja vu earrape playing in the background
well its about to def get blocked in this channel lol

@torn hawk yes
WHO JUST ADDED ME
M E
AAAAAAAAAAAA
NANI
I'VE BEEN HIDING IN THE SHADOWS
HELP
Omae wa mou, shinderu
NANI INDEED MY DUDE
๐ฆ 
What the fuck happening here?

Senpai, Notice me.
ใๅใใใๆญปใใงใใ
Oh christ I just got 5 different kinds of reacts and counting whats going on
We are happening
oh.
Apparently everything I post is 
Am i a trap?
depends
"vegr"
yeah.
NOT MY FAULT
;o;
๐ ฟ ๐ฆ ๐ฉ ๐ด ๐ท ๐บ

๐ณ๏ธโ๐
Me too

thanks
yw
๐ฉ ๐ฆ ๐ณ ๐ฐ ๐ฒ ๐ช ๐ฒ ๐ช ๐ธ
cheers peeps ๐ฅ
oh no
!online
There are 13025 users in VRChat currently
Goddammit
Oh dios mio
is game working?
No. No no
YES
B A N N E D
BAN
I wasnt spamming though
FOR YOU
pls mercy
ban for you, and you
no
and all of you
no
We're reaching levels of shitpost I didn't even think were possible, friends ๐ฅ
JOEL NO
Its time to stop, pls.
im very smol.
JOEL LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN
โฐ
You better be
@vocal shard The game is working but there is a bug where people can steal your avatar and change their name to yours. You can't get banned for this but it does allow them to permanently save your avatar.
SMOL ;;;;
So if you don't want that, don't play until they patch it
ok
You like jazz?
Oh jeez a Philippines country ball
wait how the fuck do they steal your avatar
@oblique wing and that is why i don't get on vrchat nowadays
You speak the language?
DO
Dont really speak filipino that often
YOU
and when i do its in phrases or single words
*Tagalog and yeah
๐ฝ
Same
I guess
This is improv hell
๐ฝ
well yeah
๐คฐ
vrchat is the best game in the world.
Lets tell a story one word at a time. I'll start.
๐ฝ
Ehhhhh
Im filipino and i cant even say my own language, ah
๐ฝ 
Knuckles
The
knows
no
bawal pinoy
No
way
Ass or tits?
Why
do you
ass
@vocal shard WHY
im kidding
"Knuckes the know way why ass WHY"
xempre owd
why
whyu
haha
pinoy knuckles
blinks
Okay that's the title
Knucles the knows no bawal way no ass why ass do why i pinoy im " xempre why whyu haha here's " pinoy a blinks okay
what did I walk into ๐
What's the subtitle
Lets go
you guys have spammed this channel to much, now it's gonna be removed.
i regret to tell you.
I dont really like Pinoy anyway
What
Yeah, I'm having it removed.
Its the same premise every time xp
Is happening
nooooo
Several people are typing...
@viral mountain fight me mate
I think I saw the start of a new meme guys - some yellow looking dinosaur thing that after every word would go "Ppppppppt"
I blame @oblique wing
okay lets start again: once
@viral mountain I blame you and your TOILET ROMANCE
I blame @viral mountain for letting this happen
i agree with that
Several people are typing... 
Alright its time for me to leave
It waaaaaaaas
i hope all of us get banned for ruining this christian server
for I have seen everything
I bet @oblique wing is behind the avatar stealing!
hmm so the mods are aware of those avatar stealing hackers ๐ฎ
Yep, I'm out of here.
once for all @viral mountain i i several nooooo it i alright it i for i hmm yep
@viral mountain I would never take anyone elses dirty avatars, mine are too pristine.
I bet @meager sundial knows where the ban button is
@south oyster something tells me that they noticed by now.
No offence
Lies, it's all liesssss
Hackers will give up when they notice the only models they steal are knuckles
Shitposting is over?
^
!p Justine_Apple
is it the same as the hawaiin nuclear emergency button
@final quartz oh shit good idea
@crystal epoch ๐
@crystal epoch ๐
Can we have a shitposting channel for this gestures at everything
@final quartz that will make them even more angry than just messing with their scritps
badidea.jpg
OK let's stop shitposting: NOW
Yes my son
who needs life when there is vrchat?
no
ehh
you guys aren't stopping
@vocal shard vrchat doesn't give you food or sleep so i prefer real life ๐ค
๐ฝ
what is this uganda?
yes it does
when you are told to stop STOP
I want a shitposting specific channel so I can ignore it and continue to shitpost here
plastic food doesn't count ๐
u go to the pub theres food and drinks
YOU'RE ALL BANNED NOW EXCEPT @final quartz โค
its real!
Random channel is shitpostung channel
Wow this is racism in the workplace
lolis rain from the sky
And watch as I ignore it and shitpost here
Anyone excited for Playmaker? ๐
Yes
"dank"
Howdy
Yes... If with playmaker i can create world like portal and portal gun
i am
Portal gun
OH
Is that actually joel or no
Ilija_Cvjetkovic: i am a victim here
no
no
PORTAL AVATARS WITH WORKING PORTAL ANIMATIONS WHEN
No i am his dopleganger
/ Portal map
o
o
o no
o
o
@torn hawk the s&box hype
Think about me.... That i am your friend joel
Motion sickness
@crystal epoch Sizebox?
''Quickly make gameplay prototypes, A.I. behaviors, animation graphs, interactive objects, cut-scenes, walkthroughs... '' that sounds exciting ๐
Not real joble. But joble
A joble none the less
^
nice
jobel are you drawing dicks again
:+1:
No i am not a child
there was someone in the avatar testing world with a giant pink dildo on a stick
Stop overusing memes
damb
o
That's all VRCHAT is
Overused memes
They call it a culture, but it sucks you in like quicksand
Killer bees finally make it to Tokyo
Juliet never made it with Romeo
But check out the video later
Terminator III's gonna preview the next fifty years or so
Nice poem
Thank, is best lyrix
@viral mountain ban inc
๐
we all know you can't type over 20 words per sentence or you get banned
im the most pure person here.
It's snowing on Mount Fuji
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oh fuck. me.
alright
ok
fu
HAH BEAT YOU TO IT @polar bone
it's too late
I refuse to do the sex
MINE NOW
๐ข
I hope joel will play in vrchat... I already have Bulk Bogan model for him
that was meant as a response to your message GET NAE NAED
logang ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ฏ
What is going on in here
leave
WHAT THE HECK ? ? !
leave while you can
once you see the chat, you can't leave
and things turned to shit
Yeah I'm leaving
o
o h
my grqndpa played vrchat, he was using kanna model.
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how are there 13k people online? I can't stay logged in for a minute w/o it relogging me in and sending me back to the hub
O
@vocal shard theres a better way
Its the knuckles
Top right of your screen
he'll be happy
dont b
Dont
no
You will die
don't do it
DONT
@vocal shard Set this as your launch options vrchat://launch?ref=vrchat.com&id=wld_97fda4a1-f820-4f09-a88c-2d2a95b668f7:1~private
@amber blaze
DO NOT
๐ด ๐ฐ ๐ง ๐ฆ ๐ฎ
THX
ok bai
@polar bone where does that go my dude
@oblique wing
The man upstairs and to the right
Oh my
which world is that ๐ค
NANI
Home, what did I miss?
inbefore knuckles
Right click vr chat, click properties, then launch options
@polar bone is that the standard send you to the old hub?
Welcome back
You missed avatar stealing.
yes
you don't
now no one can steal avatars
break compute
ez
delete system 32
throw it out
How are people doing it? is it cheat engine, or just a bug exploit?
Aleady have that, about a minute in, lose all tracking and it sends me to the normal hub after relogging me in
@polar bone It's a hacked client
cheat engine is 2011
Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if cheat engine worked
shit people already have hacked clients?
yuh
There doesn't seem to be any cheat detection at all
cheat engine is actually a nice tool for the reversity
@polar bone basically the code is unobfuscated and it allows you to edit the .dll
Cristian Moms Against Anime would
bc its le funni xdd
Its also the internet. Low lives live here
i know it was a joke because people are hacking it now
SugarMommy: AAH SPANK ME HARD
@inland root What dll?
game dll
^
no
as a mother of three i do not want my kids to be exposed to annimay pedos
lol
B A N N E D
vr pill pls ban this man
B A N H I M
ban
Ban him for his crimes against humanity
You piece of shit autistic creature
woah rude
You're all banned
I'm playing VRchat
imma go before they swing the ban hammer
Who wanna play with meh.
i will โค
joel is a pedo
I'm down
Okay. โค๏ธ
Lmfao
CuteCHIPPY
wew
That's my username
okay
that escalated quickly
โค
im coming~
@vocal shard fuck you i am metalist
Im thinking of a number between 1 and 50
๐
-1
no
๐
-2
๐
no
-3
no
guys its the REAL JOBEL
-4
inb4 @viral mountain meets Chris Hansen
no
Add peterpan123 if you enjoy having a loli stare at you for 1 hour straight
-5
no
WHAT
-6
-7
also no
42
-8
24
Though we really should take this to Random-chat
-9
unless you guys wanna get mugged
Yeah we should tbh
LMAO ECKS DEE
-10
๐ช
i am already being mugged what are they gonna do now
mug you harder
๐ช mug drop 500k or failRP
Sky's the limit
i need tounge trackers
@vocal shard oHNO
Hehe!
You're giving the pedos too much power
@vocal shard no
I'm a cute Loli-chan~~~
loli-chan is just a loli but all the appendages are lolis
XD
I'm a cute sugarmommy c:
my right ankle needs a tracker
my pen.. okay nevermind
loli molested everyday on vrchat
cute loli-trap
let's leave it as pen
LOL
Kinect thought I was Mighty Joe Young
hi can i be spanked~ ?
No but legit chill on the spam and junk
owo
my pp so small the trackers wouldnโt even detect.
Hi can I go home please
Guys. Lets talk about jojo
o ... um im sorry daddy
blinks
;;
Hey Joel if that is you
@meager sundial when are we getting part 5
What are the optimal settings for dynamic bones?
Things like hair, cloth, boobs, etc
Never
I cry
ive seeen him in an actual server and thats not his username
jiggle to the moon
$5 says this whole channel gets nuked and restarted tonight
@pure junco uh we know dude
Part 5 anime will probably happen in 2020
i doubt they check vrchat_general
5$ this chat gets renamed to vrchat_shitpost
vrchat-general*
this is our domain now
YES
Part 5 will be done with smell o vision so you can sniff spaghet
Part 12 manga would be ongoing by then
I hope for ps2 jojo remastered for ps4
Yerah
Rename it to shitpost so I can go shitpost in public lobby
Same
Hey guys. ๐
we have to claim all the channels
nuh uh
Giving a warning, this needs to stay related to VRChat. #general-media exists for a reason.
GOOD POINT
Aaaa mods
There we go
all hide.
finally
@placid umbra Thanks God
Speaking of Jojo
okay lets talk about vrchat shitposts then
@placid umbra ass or tits?
Duck and cover (Also avatars and logins [Don't ban me] )
I actually am going to try and find some JoJo models today
@plain current avtr_1e451b14-f054-49fa-887c-e8896f07160e Tequilla Joseph
how are the servers doing now?
Saved
You have avenues all over the internet for shitposting, take it somewhere else.
wait if someone gives you an id can you overwrite it
Wait where do I put that?
@plain current create world with floor
should i buy oculus for $280 only for VR chat
World with floor
And place pedestal
I had an idea to counter the avatar user spoofing thing
probably not possible with custom scripting
Yep
Thanks Joel
@chilly brook the same temptation i have, but with the vive, however with the current server stability over the past week and a bit, not too sure atm
I usually play late at night anyway so it isn't too terrible. I bought a vive for $400 but just returned it because i didn't think 400 was worth it sicne i only play vrchat
but i found one i can get for 280
lol
er
i want VR
rift for 400*
400 dollars is so worth it for vrchat
Kinnect and cardboard 50$
$400 for headpats and noseboops
Several people are typing
ya exactly juonkiku
is vrchat sponsored by vive or oculus yet
got damn u overpaied
Vive
Vive if you can run other games
@earnest ermine vive
occulus if you cant
o noice
like i probs wont get a vive since i doubt this laptop can run anything with it
get a pc dumbwit
oh rip
yeeep
always check the vr compatibility checker before you even consider getting either of them
this laptop actually runs games well
On spain you can buy it with 970โฌ that would be 1180USD. Now it costs 700โฌ ( 853USD)
I mean it runs VRChat with like, no lag
And thats how i met your mother
shoulda gotten a labtop with a 970 or higher
beep
though a 970MX is like, ok
it runs enough
im gonna start saving up again to build a rig
Which I was doing then it broke
build a mech suit
thats not my point Candy, if the laptop GPU isn't able to handle the VR, you're buying a $300-600 brick lol
get gud rig m8
I will
you never know, the Version2's may actually be out when you get your rig up :)
Buying VR only for one game.... I think is not worth. If you are going to play lot of games, will be worth it
phone, then laptop then tablet pen
does anyone know where I can get the murasame avatar from in a room?
[tablet pen being 50$ to replace]
make sure it has 2tb of ssd 32 gb ram dual titan x's and watercooling
Thanks huion
dual titan x's? you planning on looking through multiple dimensions?
anything is worth it if you want it bad enough and have the funds
I oughta sell like
anyone know?
anybody know if the problems of modified clients is fixed?
think there is a couple of avatar rooms with Murasame, can't actually remember which ones
You better save money for a Threadripper too.
Also VR isnt really a thing I need/can use right now since coleg
how hard is it to weight paint a simple model
tbh, the kantai mmd models are fairly easy to import as is anyway, the decimation limits are decent with most of them
@meager heron I have not found and avatar room with any Kanti Collection yet, probably because they have high poly.
im a kantai
im a weeb
u wizh
ive been searching for hours
Kantai Collection - Shimakazi or whatever he throng wearing name is.
Shimakaze*
I put mine in not pedest
Thank you my anime grammer is off today
sok :D
been through like 10 avatar places hmm
I see you like to type your accent to @cinder citrus
being southern I like to shorten my words
like yall
i just shorten down too many words heh
instead of you all
NYALL
don't think i've ever used y'all before
lol
Where can i install a grey alien playermodel?
Ive been told I have a boston accent even though I live in the Southern USA
Kingz its default
I want to be able to get one and customize it
The default model?
If someone want jojo model. I can send u only 1 id
i saw the blue robot and unity chan in the store
*Get Dio Model *Animation override for Zar Warudo *Freeze everyones computers.
Its masaka
Anybody tried or dared to get on ?
Wild I imagine having like
an orb which gives the inverted colors could work but
itd crash so many rigs
I saw someone do an orb for a TWEWY avatar
@warm mango i wouldn't risk it atm, not till an official announce goes out
Is it clear to log onto vrchat or no?
And is it clear to go upload models or not yet?
So while you CANNOT do an actual Za Warudo freeze
you can totally do the time stop orb
If you can do it in unity and it doesnt go over 20k polygons
it works it seems
someones done a working cellphone to do selfies
@plain current wouldn't say its clear, the 'hackers' afaik are still about
Which ACTUALLY takes images
hao dee frands
!online
There are 13358 users in VRChat currently
that number does make me wonder just how widespread the issue is atm
WHERE IS THE SUGGESTIONS PAGE
Take into account people are also in private + friends only worlds and such
For?
Best stay friend only world dont avatar stole till fix it
they're getting past that aswell Jazneo
To suggest something to the dev team directly
hey can you help us lelkun is back again and he is trolling VII kremit and others @vocal shard
Report them
You can suggest things here: https://vrchat.canny.io/
Anyone else's avatar not changing when you select one from your personal list? Mine wouldn't change on my end but still changed for everyone else
Yes
I'm spooked ๐จ
@vocal shard can I request a loving boyfriend there?
sup @shell nest
thanks @vocal shard
To earn a loving boyfriend you must first find the unturned leaf.
asks to requests a boyfriend; "Several people are typing"
for it has yet to blossom.
Already here yur boi
Stop
You've baited them
123 for gf
123
looking 4 gf
So these guys with 'hacks'
whats good @shell nest
god I wish Runescape was a thing
Do they only steal the avatar?
still
does anyone know where kantai collection avatar rooms are at?
not much working on models
they can also use name
Or they also steal the nameplate?
so
both
I need what is confirmed
@everyone wtb bf for free models
Oh I saw someone with a Polaroid camera deal which was neat
both is confirmed
same, mine wont load in game @shell nest
So recomendation?
survive
Learn Unity/Blender
I got models to test
@plain current you can load into a private invite only room
Is there a bug that won't work with though?
@frail flare no i mean i will do free modeling for a bf
silence
@shell nest my model is cute AF
cricket chirps
I mean dm me if that is the case
all mine are
Nyohoo~~~
damn i can't even buy a bf
Dojaaan~~~
@shell nest i don't think thats a guarenteed method atm, from what i've been hearing 'private rooms' are sometimes glitching as not private
@cinder citrus you're right but the issue is not that it's actually the server is sending randoms into the wrong instance
ah, got it
Gotta learn how to make a world
so pretty much, as long as you're loading into a 'locked' instance, you're relatively safe?
yeah pretty much
@plain current simple
or upload your own map that's private and you're 100% safe
so luck of the draw on whether the private map loads and you don't end up thrown to the public hellhole
i do question you guys sometimes XD
i saw nothing
there needs to be a verified 18+ channel for avatar discussion
o/ im here aswell as ingame
quick roll a dice and if you get six you like @mortal hamlet
!roll
eh well i tried
!barrelroll
!doabarrelroll
Damn, it didn't work.
How do I enable models?
enable?
!enablemodels
@muted fractal In unity?
exec model.exe enable
in game @sage pewter
WHOOAAAAA We're half way there, WHOAAAA a lemon and a Pear!
Oh, nevermind
Whoooaaaa we're half way there, whoaaa Lincoln on a bear
Whooaaaa we're half way there, Whoooaaa a lemming on a chaaaiir
Whooaaaa we're half way there, Whoooaaa a wizard at a fair
any ideas when mods are getting rid of people using others accounts ?
Whooaaaa we're half way there whoooa i put on to much nairrrr
0-0
wait what does tupper mean by modifying the client?
!searchuser royaloutlaw
Hacking
not IN VR
you hack using C# or something
reverse enginer the client
and alter code
to do what?
. . .
I'm so confused
oh jesus
well there are people who I know who sneak in more Faces and tris then allowed
is what I meant
or thought at least
someone just turned skybox to Nyancat and i got disconnected
well then...
i escaped the purge
Why can't we have nice things?
ty god
someone projected a collage of dicks onto my screen
okie dokie just wanted to know
I just went into a map where everyone was being teleported to one place, and you're unable to move to a new world unless you're fast enough/make your own instance of it (buttons to join new worlds grayed out)
Oh, I didn't know there was a hard code enforcment of polycount. I'd inferred all this time that it was a suggestion
koalatee game
Lol but we should chill the fuck out guys
oh sorry
@shell nest Not something to be discussed here, thanks
I didn't realize that was not allowed to be said
So everyone is using the hacked client now? There are tons of them
Modifying the client or SDK is against ToS
Yea take care of these guys please
The team has been crazy busy, they're working to handle it quick
sdk is opensource. but fair enoug
can't really complain about a free game
you can too
still entertainment
polycount does not cause lag. dynamic bones do
I started blocking all knuckles today. It makes the game much better.
When its easier to hack the client to steal a model someone else made than to spend 10+ hours learning unity to create your own garbage nightmare model
Hackers still there mimicing people?
^ cause they impose a trash limitation of 20k polygons
Or are they contained?
not worth learning if you can't have a nice looking model
@meager karma but it doesn't even take 10+ hours unless you're literally going from scratch
@cinder citrus blender and unity take a while to learn and if you want a unique model it takes hours
mate i spent at leat 8 hours trying to work out how to fix bone issues on a MMD model
You can do a ton with 20k polygons, it isnt VRChat's fault that many downloaded models have extreme polycounts
But making a model from scratch takes a lot longer than 10 hours, and it's a bummer to do that only to have it stolen by some troll knuckle
@meager karma exactly
well... bone issues is a little more on the extreme side of the learning i guess lol
Or Im just ok with being a little bit jagged around the edges ๐
sorry but to have a character that looks 3D and isn't just a flat single texture 20k is not enough
Decimation is a skill, just like the other parts of making a model
Had the weirdest expirience: Was in Gaia Night, everyone kept getting teleported to the same spot way off the middle of the map. Some guy right in front of me TURNS INTO ME, like my avatar and all, then disappears. I was very confused.
@shell nest you're totally wrong ๐
I guess it's possible to take other's avatars now?
i agree with you there Aev
yeah sure cause I have no knowledge in it @lyric nebula
Great :( my game won't even let me play.
20k is plenty of poly for some models anyway
for SOME
its just that it kills alot of them aswell
Most of the games you play that feature many simultanious onscreen characters are either not using much more than 20k models, or are swapping them out for lower res models when they are far away.
@shell nest "sorry but to have a character that looks 3D and isn't just a flat single texture 20k is not enough" this is objectively wrong no matter how many years of experience you have
and to be unique 20k limitor takes away that ability greatly
Different the game has hackers now stealing avatars etc so for safety don't log in until it is fixed
you can still manage good looking avatars from good use of textures
Im a mechanic, not a professional graphic designer. There are dozens of kanna models around, why cant i just click that ingame and have the option to save it in a "favourites" tab? instead i gotta make one myself and have it not even slightly work properly
Blarg, stolen huh?
@lyric nebula no it's not but okay, any6ways i gotta go get paid to shove pills downmy friends cats throat
I will admit though, that most VRChat users are importing existing models, and the 20k limit is very difficult to work with in that pursuit
the limitation was probably put there as some kind of barrier to entry but then someone automated that entire process ๐
just saw the best knuckles
You can work around the 20k limit with creative use of animations, since those don't count to the 20k limit.
that aswell
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I really hope they do not extend the poly count beyond 20k
The issue really is that MMD model makers don't have any real reason to optimize, and a lot of people are trying to bring in MMD models
why do animaations get a bypass on 20k limitor and can have a million polys but my main character is reduced to trash
img's allowed in this channel if related to VRchat Aev?
For example: My avatar has a battleship like thing around the waist like a belt. Make an animation that simply un-hides the battleship part: Bam.
they don't get a bypass, it just wasn't put in from the get go
Yea what @placid umbra said, these artists are designing for use when the application is spending all it's resources rendering one or two characters
Correctly decimated models can look amazing under 20k, but that usually requires a lot of work and skill decimating
Retopology, etc
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSyKw2CWsAACyD4.jpg:large 16k tris or something?
I have extra room to make the hat better but cba
poly count should remain at 20k and below.
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Adding more would prove problematic right now.
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@placid umbra you're asking kids, teens and unprofessional adults to be profession 3d artists when the poly count isn't even what causes lag
most of the strain on others is from overuse of dynamic bones
polygons do not cause lag
Some rooms are packing 40 avatars on screen
they're probably gonna restrict the dynamic bone use too tbh
since it's being misused
welp
Polycount doesn't have as big of an impact on performance as other aspects of avatars, but that's not the same argument as saying "it's impossible to get a decent avatar under 20k"
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vr chat sorted yet?
there is alot of things being misused, if you look between the lines really
@shell nest While you are right in some circumstances, skinning and blendshaping a model increases the workload on a per vertex basis. It DOES add up
So you're saying it's the other parts of the avatars like maybe custom animation and/or physics?
That causes lag?
That and with a bit of extra time after decimating the model you can just use edit mode unless the model is to far gone you can usually just repair it to the point where any broken meshes etc can't be seen
physics yeah
Dynamic bones, IK, people who don't merge their meshes
people with huge 20 bone anime hair that just have to have colliders on them ๐
physics from dynamic bones etc, they contribute to performance drops