I wana see someone with a runescape knight model that has the captions "buying gf" over his head
#vrchat-general-2
plain current
sullen pumice
you don't understand, hackers can make you not able to see anything
including their name
and what you gonna record ?
mess ?
polar bone
How do they do it? I don't think it's sdk modification, probably cheat engine or something?
vague slate
well wouldnt surprise me if you can just send a teleport to the server and he gladly accepts it 😂
native obsidian
it's a change in assembly code
next quail
I met someone that made that runescape knight with the buy gf shop window emote
Pretty good stuff
worthy pollen
vr fuckt up atm?
vocal shard
no problems here
worthy pollen
everytime i teleport to somone i sent to the hub
vocal shard
sometimes get taken to hub instead of the world i wana go
wise surge
I've seen the buying gf model already too
charred scroll
so, what they can basicly do is take your name and avatar
do forbidden sht
and get themselves banned
true lantern
I mean I hopped off because I got disconnected
coarse blaze
Like, it's not even loading
alpine rivet
@coarse blaze i cant connect either
coarse blaze
Oh, now it is
charred scroll
random disconnects are normal
coarse blaze
And it doesn't load anymore
true lantern
and then saw this in a discord:
"Everyone that plays VRChat and is unaware. Do not get on VRChat today until further notice.
So just a heads up, there are hacked clients being used that takes your avatar like its on a pedistle and can change their name to yours. They were running around public lobbies as other players, saying racist things. There is also a glitch right now where private rooms aren't private"
So stay safe."
charred scroll
but if it isnt logging you back in, then you got teleportet
wraith anvil
Can't connect either; guess the fact it uploaded my avatar was a total lie as well 😦
worthy pollen
our daily dosis
vocal shard
Servers just died?
sullen pumice
rip you ded
vocal shard
Just tried to change world and constan connecting
cyan ridge
Same here
alpine rivet
yep looks like they are dead
tranquil radish
Fuuu I need to check my model
vocal shard
i can join worlds with other people just not freinds aha
warm mango
Vrchat back at again wwith there b.s
cyan ridge
Guess I'm going back to my book.
warm mango
Wat
plain current
Only I gotta put him in a fancy suit
vocal shard
so i shouldent play vr someone was saying its dangerous lol
wraith anvil
seems like i got in
vocal shard
yeah im just chilling
plain current
When do you think it will be clear?
vocal shard
Everything broke 😭
plain current
To enter
winged trellis
back
warm mango
Vrchat fails on securing the server
sage fern
every map i joined had someone spawning objects to the point of crashing
timid light
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 12725 users in VRChat currently
sage fern
i didnt take the whole "dont go to vrchat tomorrow" thing people were saying yesterday seriously
warm mango
Goto the old hub u weebs
sage fern
i saw tons of hacked clients
glossy mesa
anyone else having invalid login ?
low hatch
hacked clients?
sage fern
both grand pugs i joined
low hatch
old hub?
low hatch
lol
sage fern
it wouldnt let me change avatars and the server counts for people in them were way off
quick finch
Anyone else seeing nothing but stars on login?
sage fern
like one grand pug had a player count of 198
quick finch
No logging in or menus of any kind, just stars
quick finch
Oh ok thanks, good to know its not jus tme
blissful willow
how does that happen?
sage fern
i think they're having some sort of takedown attempt by hackers right now
blissful willow
hmm
sage fern
i saw threats last night
distant echo
I cant even login, The loading screen wont stop
blissful willow
ugandan hackers
sage fern
and was dealing with it a few minutes ago
vocal shard
why do people hack the servers like what did people do wrong
sullen pumice
how come 14k people are still online ? 😄
vocal shard
its not even a competitive game lol
plain current
If they are ugandan hackers I swear thats when memes go too far
distant echo
Because hackers are assholes
quick finch
Anything in the world that is popular draws the desire out of people to destroy it
sullen pumice
it's a game for hacker, you know, like a personal challange 😄
elder harbor
not making being the cutest a competition
sage fern
the people i saw hacking didnt bother changing their avatars
blissful willow
its already past its best before
quick finch
Human nature
sage fern
just basic starting models
blissful willow
humans are assholes
plain current
Sugoooiiiiiiiii
wild wadi
Hackers have a sadist nature of ruining things that others enjoy for "le maymay"
glossy wharf
Uhm, this might be interesting here
"Everyone that plays VRChat and is unaware. Do not get on VRChat today until further notice.
So just a heads up, there are hacked clients being used that takes your avatar like its on a pedistle and can change their name to yours. They were running around public lobbies as other players, saying racist things. There is also a glitch right now where private rooms aren't private"
low hatch
this type of people are the classic crappy people who doesn't have anything better to do in their life
elder harbor
"Don't panic!"
blissful willow
hmm
languid flicker
someone hacked the world i was in and all the textures were replaced with dicks
elder harbor
So, everyone panic? I like your logic.
blissful willow
i wonder
molten yacht
yeah i saw someone using my name and used my avatar for a spilt second
sharp moth
can't find my mobo box with the bluetooth antenna so i can't set up the psmove stuff until tomorrow when the bluetooth adapter gets here zzzzzzz
blissful willow
they can steal models?
sage fern
apparently
plain current
I mean I can use this time to work on models
glossy wharf
and ur username
blissful willow
that might explain some stuff
sage fern
i had people spamming items to the point of crashing
they really should put out a statement
vocal shard
oh no there going to take my avatar woooooo
sage fern
its been almost 10 minutes
sullen pumice
Saying "don't panic" is making people panic 😄
vocal shard
this game is so unstable... how have they not sorted all these constant issues, i get it the games growing alot but its been shit for the past month and its getting worse :I
sick crest
The servers
plain current
I heard they also wipe yo avatar list
sick crest
are all dieng
blissful willow
yeah i put hours into my avatar, i don wan dat
sick crest
Its just not loading people
low hatch
indeed last time i am on ha pug server, and the server crashed
molten yacht
got a 2nd account just in case this shit happens
atomic tusk
thanks knuckles meme....you made the game grow to fast and now we got this hacking stuff
blissful willow
as long as you have your unity projects, just re export
glossy wharf
@vocal shard they can take your name with the avatar, say racist shit and get you banned
vocal shard
holy shit aha
sage fern
this is so annoying
vocal shard
thats crazy
warm juniper
are the servers buggered again?
sage fern
is there little to no anti cheat?
blissful willow
yea
warm mango
Damn knuckles showing people the way and shit
lost agate
pretty sure this is illigal
vocal shard
open bob
lost agate
hacking the game i mean
vocal shard
well tbh you cant really cheat the game
frank lichen
vrchat is being a dick for me
vocal shard
you make models and talk aha
glossy mesa
wait whats this about hacked clients and avatar stealing? are they related?
frank lichen
for fduck sake
candid marsh
It's against the terms of service but
molten yacht
i dont think the developers expected this game to be that popular so that dont really give that much anti cheat
blissful willow
not hacking, but identity theft possibly and maybe stolen property?
vocal shard
unless u want like aimbot for those minigames
plain current
Guys how much money are ya willing to donate to the vrchat security team?
vocal shard
unless you like bypass character rules
warm mango
Vrchat should be payed game like 5$
still zodiac
why is it everytime i want to go on vrchat its either down or extremly laggy?
tribal current
can i crouch somehow without a gearset?
vocal shard
or whatever
wild wadi
Anyone using a MMD model is already breaking TOS tbh
native obsidian
not identity theft nor stolen property
blissful willow
i have a few bucks in my steam wallet
candid marsh
Y'all need to chill
warm mango
Shud up lewd
blissful willow
ye
blissful willow
lol
warm mango
No one cares who breaking tos
vocal shard
yeah lol the dev team havent annocuned anything bad we are fine lol
low hatch
@wild wadi why?
lost agate
ima build an army to kill all dead memes brb
vocal shard
But what if the model is something i ripped myself :v
plain current
I more just don't want my reputation screwed and to have to redo all.the work I put in @candid marsh
glossy wharf
@vocal shard i have literally seen someone run around as a friend of mine screaming racist shit
blissful willow
there should be a vrchat police clan
candid marsh
Your...reputation in vrchat
plain current
Hey @vocal shard Did ya make a Tamamo model?
vocal shard
i'm curently working on the mirror animation from F/GO
compact pendant
Nice I did the same with Katherine from Catherine lol it was a both but
vocal shard
sure i have one on my world
plain current
:O
charred scroll
am i the only one blaming youtubers that made the knuckle meme vids which caused the instant increase of players instead of a linear increase?
compact pendant
And yeah connection issues here too
vocal shard
but i can't seem to login
plain current
Nice
dim prairie
anyone know why when i get into vrchat, im sitting in space with no loading or login... just space?
steep turret
the log in is just frozen for me
frozen geyser
^ yeah
candid marsh
No, you are not
steep turret
apparently theres some hacking shit going on
frozen geyser
trying to get in
quick finch
TOS violations that dont directly harm the game are put on a TODO list im sure, but TOS violations that do directly harm the game are dealt with much more agressively.
vocal shard
Servers are broke atm
jaunty apex
@charred scroll no, everyone, at the moment, hates streamers and youtubers
wild wadi
Severs are currently having issues. Please wait until an annoucement has been made.
steep turret
or something idk
tardy ridge
welp
frail temple
Game is stuck on the first lagging screen
north fractal
also sitting in space no login pops up
plain current
I got D'Eon, Nero, Caster Nero. Jakku, Kato and Tiamat so far
frozen geyser
I've learned to hate knuckles meme now.
molten yacht
The creator of the ugandan knuckles even blames himself for importing that
frail temple
knuckles meme was born to get dank fast
native obsidian
best thing to do right now would probably be stop trying to log in and upload avatars and let the admins do their thing
vocal shard
login servers are dead or?
plain current
Tiamat may need to have her skin changed to blue
vocal shard
damn vrchat has so many problems in the past days
native obsidian
they fixed it before, they can fix it again
raw sequoia
I think the servers are ded
raw sequoia
They need to replace the hamster that turns the power wheel
wild wadi
back in the good ol' days
raw sequoia
The old one died
plain current
I can still prep models to upload later
candid marsh
woah
charred scroll
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 10091 users in VRChat currently
frozen geyser
hmm
candid marsh
I just saw a really trippy model
charred scroll
want some more proof?
frozen geyser
and how many are trying to get in? 😄
plain current
Unless that will stress the servers hardcore
vivid grove
knew this game was early access but I didn't expect game-breaking bugs
charred scroll
this is rush hour and its only 10k players
native obsidian
ya'll need to chill god damn
wild wadi
The sudden surge of players is what is making complications for it right now.
native obsidian
it's a free game with over 10k constant players
charred scroll
well, just look at the steamcharts XD
floral flaxBOT
There are 10091 users in VRChat currently
native obsidian
of course there's gonna be some issues
north fractal
only 10k?
vocal shard
They're a small team providing an experience for a lot of people for free. Gotta stop acting entitled guys lol.
wild wadi
Trust the !online than the bot description
finite vessel
I think that bot checks for in this server
native obsidian
like i said before, just stop trying to log in or upload avatars and let the admins do their thing
frozen geyser
yeah we had few k people on before knuckles stuff
charred scroll
im surprised this is the first REAL downtime of the servers
wild wadi
Back in my days
urban python
Like, you could come on the next day and just happen to see the same people
raw sequoia
It grew so fast because of UGANDA
charred scroll
@urban python i started around 1 week before it exploded
flint gust
the next day? more like the next room. few hundred days were great
wild wadi
Came at a bad time lmao
urban python
I would see Moeshop like 4 times a day
winged trellis
meh, its fine
wild wadi
That's not the real moeshop tho
north fractal
theyve probaly shut down the servers to work on them so logging in or uploading avatars dont matter its not gonna hurt to keep trying to login although theyre probably not up yet
sudden sphinx
It's my 3rd day on here too haha.
wicked dove
@dreamy geode people like to bitch about anything
paper acorn
Brudda, a friend come to me and say "game is hacked my brudda" and now i play game and game not load
Is this the way?
wild wadi
stop.
elder harbor
The only way is no way
compact pendant
Pfft
vocal shard
coarse blaze
Perfect time for the servers to shut down tbh
charred scroll
the way of the knuckles is to NEVER FIND IT
plain current
It's a beta so bugs are expected
worthy pollen
for the alliance!
coarse blaze
right as I thought I had finally finished the avatar and wanted to test it
winged trellis
Lol I just started playing to see how many players would actually talk instead of the Ugandan Knuckles meme people
vocal shard
Reeeeeee
plain current
But still good luck to the vrchat dev team
charred scroll
^
austere walrus
wait what happened to the servers? they got hacked?
charred scroll
give them your energy guys
wild wadi
They're just under maintence
plain current
Like godspeed my good fellows and laides and whatever
paper acorn
So there is no way?
https://i.imgur.com/osUOsJy.png
elder harbor
But that's my energy though
quick finch
All the accounts here are rumors. might just literally be an outage
wild wadi
Tupper is still working on it
plain current
I am sending positive vibes over
lofty quest
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 10091 users in VRChat currently
winged trellis
lol
paper acorn
why are you lying
charred scroll
no there isnt @paper acorn
shell osprey
wishin' good luck to the vrchat dev team ❤
quartz urchin
You gotta meet up with the correct plaayers to get into a talk group @winged trellis
wild wadi
They probably didn't leave the game
winged trellis
@quartz urchin yeah
meager plaza
did u guys heard about the ''dont play vrchat today cause hacked clients can take ur name and avatar'' n' stuff?
torn shoal
As much as I like VR chat getting bigger, this huge sudden growth was the worst thing to happen ever
imo
plain current
I did but Unity and blender are up ya know
paper acorn
My brudda, I wanted to be join but the server are down
wild wadi
Okay but that doesn't mean the moment you're logged in you're hacked lmaoooooo
winged trellis
I avoid the Ugandan Knuckles avatars
paper acorn
I am unlucky because my brudders are all ingame
plain current
I gotta give.myself practice time
coarse blaze
Okay so, the ugandan knuckles avatar isn't that obnoxious
coarse blaze
what is obnoxious is the people running around in it and being original
worthy pollen
SERVER IS WORKING!
wild wadi
@strange trail Severs are currently having issues. Please wait until an annoucement has been made.
signal flame
I just crashed
worthy pollen
OR NOT!
strange trail
aight
paper acorn
@strange trail That is not the way my brudda
plain current
Don't go on
signal flame
so I imagine not
native obsidian
please read server status before asking
plain current
Unless ya wana risk being hacked
strange trail
@paper acorn Ilost da wei
cunning kiln
plain current
For now either don't go on or take caution
wild wadi
Am I gonna have to copy and paste again?
winged trellis
but I actually did laugh when I saw a Ugandan Knuckles tank avatar xD
like really hard
paper acorn
My brudda, that is not the way
crimson tartan
hello guys
paper acorn
Tank knuckles is not my brudda
crimson tartan
why are my accounts getting deleted
plain current
Oh
coarse blaze
Well, there are some unique ones
wild wadi
Accounts?
worthy pollen
to much hentai on it
plain current
Accounts are being delete
strange trail
the jetpack one is godlike
plain current
Nani
winged trellis
@coarse blaze agreed
odd iron
The screaming Russian mini tank knuckles had me unable to stop laughing for a minute when I first saw him xd
plain current
I am concerned now
frozen geyser
what?
wild wadi
Tupper is working on the issues of accounts and emails/recovery passwords
yall need to wait and chill
frozen geyser
accounts being deleted?
crimson tartan
yeah
paper acorn
@crimson tartan What the fuck you saying brudda
quartz urchin
There are far better stuff to laugh at in VRchat that is not as cancer as knuckles nowdays @winged trellis
wild wadi
yeah
crimson tartan
make another account
plain current
Lewd Senpai I am a patient person relax
tardy ridge
the server is down
velvet quarry
Your account has not been deleted.
native obsidian
when people start talking as if they were a ugandan knuckles in anything other than vrchat
wild wadi
Servers are having issues @crimson tartan
native obsidian
that's when the concerning part happens
tardy ridge
No accounts are being deleted, you just cant log in
paper acorn
@crimson tartan Cuz servers are down DEADASS IDIOT
wild wadi
So it's not going to register
velvet quarry
Login systems are having issues
teal tree
me the only problem i see is people who take avatar of people
crimson tartan
ah okay
winged trellis
yeah there is better stuff to laugh at
plain current
By all means the hardworking devs can take all the time they need
uneven lynx
velvet quarry
@paper acorn That's rather unneccesary
proud wadi
me smaping the login button
plain current
If it means more fixes
strange trail
Wait,was tupper always working for vr chat?
stable aurora
what would we do without tupper
odd iron
Yeah someone mirrored my avatar and name a few days ago
shell osprey
"Tupper - Hoje às 18:53
@here Yet another :mention: ! Our servers are having some issues with logins. We're aware and are working the problem. We appreciate your continued patience! 
"
stable aurora
❤
shell osprey
there.
frail temple
there you have it
wild wadi
It is.
uneven lynx
paper acorn
@velvet quarry Sowwy
delicate merlin
love this game still
native obsidian
maybe take longer to fix the servers so people will actually get on with their lives
plain current
Then a non rushed quality update is better than a rushed half assed one
spare root
hows everyone doing?
high lava
Annnnnnnnnnd there's the annoucement
delicate merlin
memes are spicy and cancerous
vocal shard
Q_Q
strange trail
I thought he was a random making guides on models and sht
vale palm
Afromana do you know anything about that "dont play vrchat today cause exploit allowing ppl to "steal" avatars" ?
civic cove
i appreciate the updates but the spamming now its insane..
plain current
Err wording might have sucked then
noble edge
c'mon now
odd iron
It was freaky xD But reported it etc
native obsidian
and realize they don't actually need to stay logged into vrchat 24 hours a day
hardy raven
wait since when was tupper staff?
grand zealot
paper acorn
But deadass server not running
wanton dawn
so is this one of those "you might get in if you keep trying" issues or is there no point to even doing that?
hardy raven
like are they a paid employee now?
unborn compass
Hello everyone
vocal shard
@covert chasm is VRchat created with anime characters molesting each other in mind?
hardy raven
i haven’t looked at vrchat in ages sorry
charred scroll
more 50 mb updates :)
vocal shard
.
sage fern
i personally know i saw 2 separate instances of hacked clients @velvet quarry is there an ongoing issue today that you know of?
somber sluice
Several people are typing...
sage fern
ive never run into hacked clients until today
proud wadi
ya i think i keep seing hacked clients staling peoples original work
winged trellis
Yeah, still love VR Chat
plain remnant
If i could i def want to donate to the devs so they can have more than 1 hamster for the servers Q_Q
shell osprey
we should just chill out and wait
hardy raven
confused
winged trellis
hallo
sage fern
i think its down down right now
hardy raven
okay well i guess it’s honorary cuz i’m getting no answer
paper acorn
@wanton dawn From experience, I can tell you that is not the way, my brudda
clever sorrel
wait u guys mean uganda is gone
native obsidian
pls stop mentioning the moderators
vale palm
define "hacked client"
vagrant estuary
Is there any way to use phone as "hand controller"?
like to move my shitty ass hand in vrchat
by moving my phone
halcyon ingot
They needf to start charging
winged trellis
when I am not playing VR Chat all I am doing is watching documentaries or researching history related stuff ;P
vagrant estuary
or any way to stimulate that fucking shit
sage fern
there NEEDS to be a statement about the hacked clients issue
paper acorn
What exactly does one do with a hacked account
What benefits do hacking accounts have
torn shoal
It's kinda sad that people start hacking into a game meant for social interaction with no goal to accomplish
wild wadi
I wish
vagrant estuary
i just want to have hands :-------(
soft skiff
I wish I could play vrchat right now
vale palm
ok @native obsidian
soft skiff
😦
plain current
Just chill people relax
strange trail
@vagrant estuary look it up on youtube
placid pivot
paper acorn
@vagrant estuary Yes, but you'll be an amputtee and bullies will laugh and you'll cry
wild wadi
Don't discuss that
paper acorn
So buy a second phone
wild wadi
You're only going to make people try to get it more
plain current
I wana give headpats and hugs
vagrant estuary
@strange trail idk how to google that
noble edge
@vagrant estuary yes https://developers.google.com/vr/daydream/controller-emulator
warped nymph
@vagrant estuary You can't use any motion controller without headset I think
noble edge
you can
vale palm
its a f2p game, its to be expected
vagrant estuary
@noble edge ios :---(
noble edge
no it isn't
serene onyx
vocal shard
hellos i have vrchat question
wild wadi
It's EARLY ACCESS
Lmaooooooooooo
noble edge
it's Android
wild wadi
Chillllll
strange trail
@vagrant estuary yikes
noble edge
Oh, you mean you're using iOS
vagrant estuary
i mean im having ios
soft skiff
I wish knuckles meme would leave
wild wadi
IOS = 💀
woeful kraken
Evening all. I was going to ask about the so-called "Hacked Client" Issue but i see its already hot topic.
outer bronze
you do not know da wae
brave furnace
With the influx of people who are both griefing and actually being destructive (stream sniping to make sky boxes porn or force respawn people) are you going to be opening up moderator positions in world to police this soon?
plain current
Hey people I got an anoucement about the knuckles
Try not to feed them and they go away
torn shoal
Who even said that hacked client stuff. An source for that comment?
wild wadi
Doubtful
soft skiff
We are crashing this server with no survivors
low hatch
!online
paper acorn
https://steamcommunity.com/app/438100/discussions/0/2595630410182827408/
lmao this is awesome
floral flaxBOT
There are 8336 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
oh dear
if anybody knows the answer to this please respond, i cannot login with my vrchat account because it keeps saying invalid credentials
wicked dove
YOU RE A BIG GUY
vocal shard
is anyone else not able to play vrchat
vocal shard
even though i reset my password a few times already
paper acorn
@vocal shard Literally everyone
pale copper
I heard players being hacked
clever sorrel
i saw someone cover the gaia terrain in greentext that just said traps are gay
wicked dove
need a Bane avatar
vocal shard
aww man @paper acorn
final venture
dude these people stealing peoples avatars and stuff are messed up
noble edge
I think the player count is fine.. retention is just poor because VRChat is unreliable
pale copper
Randoms seem to be fine
vocal shard
wait VRChat got hack
oblique ginkgo
Anyone esle having problems of vr chat just loading?
paper acorn
@pale copper Do not spread fake rumors, you're just causing more panic in the community
plain current
It is a beta chip
stoic goblet
Yep
forest salmon
Just a short question concerning the vr hacking problem. Do the hackers actually get access to your account or are they just able to copy your avatar from the server when they are face to face? I assume it's the second one but then why are they able to delete your avatars? Or are they doing that by getting the avatar ID through the server and overwriting/deleting it there?
north fractal
okay boys im gonna go take a nap
brave furnace
90% of you are spewing the same garbage without witnessing.
plain current
Bugs are expexted in an alpha and beta
pale copper
Someone posted a thing in our discord
dawn pike
just reposting here for info:
Leeroy [LoliSquad] - Today at 3:49 PM
@everyone that plays VRChat and is unaware. Do not get on VRChat today until further notice. There are hacked clients being used that takes your avatar (like its on a pedestal and can change their name to yours) People are running around as others saying racist things. There is also a glitch right now where private rooms aren't private.
So stay safe
wild wadi
Stop spreading false rumors.
noble edge
Yeah, I know @plain current, but there is such thing as a blue/green deploymenty
pale copper
^ that
noble edge
*deployment
paper acorn
@pale copper Who?
plain current
What is blue/green deployment?
noble edge
It means you test changes with a small number of users before deploying to everyone
pale copper
I haven't been on this discord so idek what's going on
wild wadi
Just like the 10k other people
brave furnace
Your avatar isn't actually stolen. Calm the fuck down. The hackers ARE stream sniping and turning worlds sky's into porn, I witnessed that first hand, and also Teleporting people / force respawn in.
wild wadi
lmao
noble edge
Broken deployments and lack of scalability has been an issue
pale copper
Welp
paper acorn
Oh wow, someone stolen my avatar, whatever will I dooo!! This is the worst thing ever, hackers literally make the game unplayable
Stealing avatars is illegal
vocal shard
so. its normal rn for your client just to be a space BG, and nothing else?
paper acorn
Death should be the punishment
noble edge
Most of the avatars in the game are technically stolen
wicked dove
yeah
brave furnace
Mfw almost all the avatars are already copyrighted
solemn mirage
yea
noble edge
^^^
shadow wraith
I know someone that has the tool and gave me the software too, only does teleporting and changing names, tbh
wild wadi
Especially MMD Models are copyrighted
vocal shard
^
noble edge
yeah
lone spire
Some guy teleported all the people in the world I was in and started stealing out names and avatars wut do?
wild wadi
They're not even suppose to be used in-game
noble edge
but you're not using it commerically
vale palm
mmd models are not copyrighted
vocal shard
almost all avatar are copyrighted >_> so we are stealing
noble edge
so, it's fine
dawn pike
yea, most avatars are modified copyrighted characters
plain current
Stealing borrowed assets
noble edge
They are
wicked dove
WE ARE CRIMINAL SCUM
vocal shard
my vrchat client just... is on a black space BG. no loading...nothing.
vale palm
TIL all mmd models are TDA
paper acorn
Mommy, this hacker stole my CJ ass inflated avatar, this is the worst day of my life wahh wahhhhh
brave furnace
Id just like the idea of moderator positions
wicked dove
but im using unity assets
plain current
I mean I consider using my models as free advertising for the franchises
shadow wraith
•.•)b
forest salmon
Doesn't that still fall under fair use?
wicked dove
techically its nto really stealing
brave furnace
They need to expand their mod team
dawn pike
but, charging / gaining money from them is the illegal part I beleive
stoic goblet
What is actually going on though? I cant load VRchat at all and everyone is talking about some people stealing stuff
noble edge
It depends on the source @forest salmon
tepid raptor
TDA could actually sue VRchat 🤔
get sum money out of it
north fractal
the game is free so theyre not making money off of it which means avatars are free reign
shadow wraith
I made one avatar and got too lazy to make anymore
vocal shard
vrchat needs better security i guess.
wild wadi
Yes they can
odd iron
My avatar was totally snatched a few days ago, along with my name. It was odd 😄 Weird seeing someone with my same name above their head moving around me
wild wadi
Inb4 Future Lawsuit
noble edge
Issues with servers, nothing new @stoic goblet
soft skiff
vrchat is down it seems like
vocal shard
im not having any troubles im hopping worlds fine
plain current
Lewd Senpai it's feee advertising tbh
stoic goblet
Oh, so should i just wait before trying to play again?
forest salmon
@noble edge yeah I guess you're correct, some have special criteria
fringe cliff
mines down
soft skiff
login servers
paper acorn
@noble edge Except this time it's because of some ultimate beings called ""hackers""
plain current
*free
foggy storm
is it working now?
woeful kraken
So can we confirm this "Hacked Client" Thing? True or False????
narrow ermine
Oh good I thought my pc was messed up
wild wadi
@plain current Yeah but the creators don't want it to be distributed
plain current
Ah
stoic goblet
Hacking?
paper acorn
@woeful kraken Probably overreacting
stoic goblet
What hacking?
halcyon ingot
@shadow wraith Please dont spread it mate
plain current
If the creators are ok with distribution I will download it
dawn pike
always check the licenses on models before you get them
plain current
That's all
shadow wraith
Not worth it imho
halcyon ingot
@plain current I doubt they are ok with people distributing game hacks on their own discord
plain current
If they don't want it distributed I won't use the model
vocal shard
this is ass man
shadow wraith
I need ass
halcyon ingot
oh you meant the model
plain current
Oh distributing game hacks...
I thought you meant distributing models lol
deep nymph
I just quit my job to come home and play VRChat and it's down FeelsBadMan
plain current
Lol fuck
paper acorn
You're telling me, that the free VRChat account I made can be hacked, and someone will take their time to impersonate me and say racist things, and get my fully replaceable account banned? :OOOOOOOO
wild wadi
FeelsBadMan
tepid raptor
@plain current a lot of creators on bowlroll turned off their DL option since ppl don't give a fk about redistribution
noble edge
@deep nymph wut
plain current
I know
paper acorn
😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱
noble edge
@paper acorn hacked isn't exactly the correct term
plain current
I appreciate the ones who don't mind redistribution and use of their models
wild wadi
Modded Client is more correct.
north fractal
@deep nymph why?
noble edge
@wild wadi correct
plain current
I like the quality of how it is so I like using them
noble edge
@wild wadi nothing serious, just poeple using a custom client
wild wadi
Exactly.
noble edge
Which is simple, because Unity.
shadow wraith
Here is the thing, even if they change their name to yours. When you select their avatar to add or block, it shows the original users username not the copied
vocal shard
I’m understanding this correctly, there are hackers running lose in VRchat atm?
noble edge
SecondLife manage, VRChat will eventually
wild wadi
yeah but someone recording what they do won't know that @shadow wraith
noble edge
I like the idea of third-party clients
tiny fjord
oh hihi o.o
weary mural
There was a breach in the servers??
noble edge
Any enforcement should be done on the server-side
light ivy
I mean they dont have to hack it happened to me they just click a script and they are you with your name
frosty dome
if this happens to you just find your avatar id and upload an empty box with the pipeline manager
plain current
I never knew of the modded client thing till today.
worthy pollen
server ofline...the moment when we all did not find the waay in vr world
little pond
So just a heads up, there are hacked clients being used that takes your avatar like its on a pedistle and can change their name to yours. They were running around public lobbies as other players, saying racist things. There is also a glitch right now where private rooms aren't private
Got sent this today so it seems like great fun \o/
plain current
It sounds shady and shitty tbh
wild wadi
Everyone already knows \o/
vocal shard
I didn’t know
weary mural
Rip vr
plain current
I just want to make cool models, talk and interact with people and meme
vale palm
@paper acorn stop being a retard already, a ban on vrchat needs a new mac adress, a simple new account doesnt work
spark sentinel
plain current
I'm a trap of simple pleasures
graceful juniper
It takes long to load rooms for me in general anyways
wild wadi
somber sluice
Several people are typing...
vocal shard
models can be ripped very easily from vrchat, even without tools or hacks.
shadow wraith
0:
zenith gate
Me too @plain current
low hatch
Fuck. i hope anyone of the hackers go around with my nickname stolen...
shadow wraith
I plan to buy a VR soon
pure junco
GIVES ME ANXIETY
weary mural
I just got vr this morning rip
sullen pumice
Rip Tupper, dealing with hackers "D
wild wadi
Trap btw
stoic goblet
Oh boy now the devs are aware
paper acorn
@vale palm What's a mac adress? And why wouldn't a new account work :P
weary mural
i played for like 12 mins then got kicked out
vocal shard
Is anyone having problems actually just starting VRChat?
dull sail
wait so people can literally stael and reupload your models?
rich ember
here we work on the honor and honesty system.
chilly widget
rip custome avatars
rich ember
it's easy to rip models, but please dont ^_^
pure junco
same
vocal shard
Login servers are dead
robust wraith
"ban on report" that's pretty scary
pure junco
and its more they can impersonate you
half cloak
does this mean they don't plan to be able to save avatars from pedestals?
final fulcrum
rip....
wild wadi
@vocal shard Severs are currently having issues. Please check #announcements for updates.
delicate merlin
i saw someone take my avatar
chilly widget
everyone back to default unitychan
vocal shard
Pointless to hack on Vrchat >_> why even bother, no lifes
shadow wraith
Oh nice @weary mural
delicate merlin
by walking up to me
queen brook
"Ban on report" sounds easily abusable
pure junco
the bigger issue is to
vocal shard
wait, we cant upload custom avatars anymore?
delicate merlin
granted he was part of our group but yes its possible
polar arch
Boiiiiis. I get my Oculus Rift back today. 8D
plain current
Plus I mean this is also helping me improve my social skills too since I'm more comfortable talking to people online than in real life
vocal shard
Yea someone took my Avatar too about 3 weeks back
pure junco
to take someones name
stoic goblet
What is going on?
pure junco
and pretend to be them
vocal shard
Watched it happen, was really sad
delicate merlin
the name thing tho im not sure
pure junco
and cause shit
vocal shard
What the fuck?
wild wadi
@stoic goblet Servers are currently having issues. Please check #announcements for updates.
pure junco
and not get banned
weary mural
I was using the vangaurd guy thats a preset one
paper acorn
Oh no, hackers, if you're listening, DO NOT TAKE MY ROBLOX AVATAR
tardy crag
Saw someone with the name copycat doing that, his default avatar was a pokemon Ditto, so conceptually it was funny to see him clone people, but definitely not cool to do.
vocal shard
"Protect the queen" 30 knuckles ban everyone in a server.
shadow wraith
Which VR is best to get?
vocal shard
thats why they updated yesterday
rich ember
I really don't carea bout avatar theft. Sure you worked hard, and you impressed someone so much they stole it
knotty cosmos
wait u cant upload avatars?
vocal shard
to stop cheaters
rich ember
not like you're losing money over it
stoic goblet
HTC Vive, I would say
vocal shard
VrJosh copycat did that to me too
stoic goblet
But idk
vocal shard
He had that client weeks ago
polar arch
If someone took my snake avatar I'd be so sad.
wild wadi
If the servers are down, you cannot upload avatars.
opaque prism
500: FLAGRANT SYSTEM ERROR
Unspecified but probably pretty catastrophic error!
Oh, our server admin will definitely want to hear about this. Send them an email at support@vrchat.net.
weary mural
Hey how do you get more charaters?
vocal shard
Does de hackers know de whey?
timid light
dam
polar arch
I worked my butt off on it.
hazy maple
Oh my god what a horrible thing! You spend hours upon hours ripping models from someone elses games and someone just rips your model straight outta VRChat!
delicate merlin
de hackers do not no de wae my brudda
queen brook
Less worried about meme knuckles than over sensitive children
polar arch
Everyone in game knows me as the snake lady :C
tepid raptor
who cares tbh..
vocal shard
lol
pure junco
guys the focus is impersonation
noble edge
@delicate merlin 😂
hazy maple
There is no justice in this world
lofty coral
Are servers working again?
stoic goblet
I mean I made my own model for scratch in Blender...
pure junco
not the avatar taking
rich ember
@hazy maple lol exactly
vocal shard
Spit on de hackers
fervent bramble
Servers are not working, no
pure junco
someone could pretend to be someone, and cause shit and then get THEM banned
noble edge
Just watch #announcements
shell nest
@covert chasm it's called encryption, it'll help prevent avatar theft
undone belfry
If anyone takes my avatars, none of them are even really "finished" I hope they enjoy broken models. :^)
lucid totem
Took your avatar? dont be too hasty judging someone, spent 4 hours making one last week and when i logged on to use it i found a player with an identical one ^^ if you use a popular avatar there is a big chance of other people making one themself just like it!
vocal shard
Wait so you can't upload avatars anynore?
frosty dome
Deleting your model won't stop them from using it btw, you need to copy the model ID down under "manage uploaded content" and upload an empty box and attach the model ID to the box. Deleting it does not stop the person from using it.
wild wadi
Jfc
noble edge
@shell nest I'm sure they're aware. It's just a massive technical challenge.
wild wadi
^
plain current
I am working with mmd models for practice till I can figure out how to make my own from scratch
vocal shard
If you take an avatar I make, enjoy thanks for the signal boost 😄
noble edge
It took SecondLife years to iron out issues
stoic goblet
So to guarantee your avatar doesnt get stolen just dont play vrchat right now?
ruby kraken
Random question, can you put an actual presentation/slideshow up in the presentation room? I know you can do something like this in the theatre environment?
vocal shard
honestly i think just need to update
icy horizon
SL was never capable of stopping "copybotting"
wheat patio
@everyone I hope you read the announcement #StaySafeOutThere
umbral reef
beside the fact they got your name also....
loud roost
tbh im more worried about the stolen name and people possibly impersonating me
pure junco
its not just about the content
shell nest
it's 2018 and encryption has proven nessecary yet places still refuse to use it, yet it should be implemented from the get go
sullen pumice
Avatar AND nameplate 😄
lucid totem
you cant complain unless its a 100% custom avatar you made yourself ^^
light ivy
They gotta know your friends though too right? Or else they are just a random person being you to rando people
pure junco
its about the- what Rush said
pure junco
like, the issue is someone getting you in trouble through impersonaation
meager lantern
if they arent able to save the avatar they stole for later then it doesnt really matter
scarlet zodiac
Im confused
pure junco
not just hte avatar steal
scarlet zodiac
What the avatar pedestal issue
noble edge
@shell nest agreed, there's always a vulnerability though
pure junco
since they can change their names
granite coral
i think the main problem is the name steal thing, is not nice to see your own model stolen, but is worse to risk a ban cause someone else is being racist under your name
frank lichen
Dude
quick finch
A good number of folks do have 100% self made avatars
grave girder
hey when you click on an avatar on a pedestal can you unlock it permanetly in your personal menu?
odd iron
So what would you do to 'erase' the model from VRChat servers so the ID isn't reusable?
frank lichen
Is VRCHAT working for you guys?
loud roost
@vocal shard of course but there are stupid people in the world that love doing that and getting people into trouble for kicks
frank lichen
Because mine isn't working
wild wadi
@frank lichen Servers are currently having issues. Please check #announcements for updates.
vocal shard
@frank lichen Yea
plain current
Main issue for me is the name stealing thing
icy horizon
Just be thankful they are looking at this NOW and not after they implement their marketplace.
frank lichen
Ohhhh
shell osprey
@frank lichen nope, vrchat is down for the moment
shell nest
@noble edge true but it'll make it more of a hassle and the kiddy scripters won't bother cause it won't be worth their time to waste on it.
pure junco
Like
frank lichen
Someone ping me when it's back up
vocal shard
Are currently uploaded avatars still available?
pure junco
I have 100% FROM SCRATCh avatars
frosty dome
@odd iron no it doesnt erase with delete, you can have to overwrite it with a box or something
pure junco
id be a bit, peeved if they used it
vital bay
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6966 users in VRChat currently
stoic goblet
Same Candy, same
pure junco
but i wouldnt care as long as they dont start pertendign to be me
modest halo
!online
placid pivot
if I can see the model, then I must have the model
floral flaxBOT
There are 6966 users in VRChat currently
modest halo
is it broken
stoic goblet
That doesnt seem right
shell nest
@modest halo
odd iron
@frosty dome so basically just replace my avi in unity with a box and upload that? Then delete?
knotty nest
are servers up?
pure junco
then again ive only made animal people so
wild wadi
@placid pivot Literal VRChat Logic
tepid raptor
Name change is false rumor tho, it's only avis they can copy
placid pivot
not sure how they can easily protect against that
solemn mirage
but uh
pure junco
Ive seen name change
modest halo
@shell nest hi
solemn mirage
cant the team take the servers down
pure junco
like, in chat
shell nest
@modest halo hey girl
crystal epoch
VRChat needs VAC.
odd iron
I saw name plate stealing myself, someone did it to me
lucid totem
well every avatar that is of something popular is highly likely gonna me made of several people, so unless its something you make up yourself (and not something from a series or movie or whatever ^^) ^^
stoic goblet
VAC?
solemn mirage
nobody steals shit
dusky trellis
i use counter strike models and i had to decompile .mdl files into .smd files and then open them in blender using blender source tools and then export them and rig them using mixamo
modest halo
@shell nest is the game broken
stoic goblet
V A C ?
pure junco
someone was spamming mic under a diff name
sullen pumice
I would recommend BURNING EVERYTHING DOWN
wild wadi
Why VAC
faint quail
whats next? VRChat is able to inject viruses?
pure junco
steam vac
placid pivot
yes some form of anticheat essentially
solemn mirage
lol
shell nest
@modest halo yeah girl check out the #announcements
pure junco
and that wouldnt really work
noble edge
@shell nest SecondLife still has issues with people ripping models. They've made it super difficult and irritating, but it's always going to be a possibility. The fact is, the client recieves the model, so you can just dump that info. Sure, you can obfuscate everything and use a custom/proprietary protocol to transmit the data; but, it's just time before someone reverse engineers it.
stoic goblet
some sort of anti chest, but not VAC
hazy maple
VAC.AVI
modest halo
😭
vocal shard
early access game
solemn mirage
only valve games have vac
umbral reef
@tepid raptor It legit says "as well as modify their nameplates to potentially impersonate others""
vocal shard
in development
zinc halo
Vacbans for a game like this would be depressing
frosty dome
@odd iron yes just duplicate the model, detatch the ID on orignally and make a new one, on the second box put a bot and paste the ID in there and overwrite the original with that box
lofty quest
Wow, guys
frosty dome
@odd iron as deleting doesnt actually delete it
solemn mirage
guys wtf
vocal shard
Curb your privilege all, this is in development.
plain current
I am just being patient
solemn mirage
only valve games have VAC
stoic goblet
I have only seen that work like once or twice in my 5000 hours on steam games in general
vocal shard
Insane early access
odd iron
@frosty dome tyvm :3
undone belfry
<- if anyone sees my first name in VRC right now. It's not me, screencap and find if you can see their actual name.
frigid frigate
Log in servers down?
crystal epoch
VRChat needs Battleye lul
flint gust
@odd iron even if you replace it in the game, its not gone from vrchat i will say that muc, but it will stop that part of copying models.
vocal shard
🇭 🇦 🇨 🇰 
supple bison
Pog champ guys
shell nest
@noble edge ye imean while psy-fi GitS proved that no matter how secure something is you can break into it, even the major got "hacked"
supple bison
Pog champ
odd iron
@flint gust ty
plain current
It's surprising how well this is working (sort of) despite it being early access
supple bison
We did it reddit
hazy maple
I will copypaste that nick into my name when i create a new account
native obsidian
tbh if you expected that your limited edition vrchat model wouldn't get ripped or stolen, that's a little naive
frosty dome
@flint gust yes I thought that was weird because one time I uploaded a new model and still had original, so it seems to keep old copies
placid pivot
if you could show the model without sending the model to the client then you'd ```
a) be a god
b) not be in the game development business because the NSA have some great job openings for you
@shell nest I'm a security analyst, you're preaching to the choir
lofty quest
Select the player who steal your name and screenshot it. Then report it.
noble edge
@placid pivot precisely
wild wadi
@noble edge be my choir daddy
noble edge
❤
flint gust
@odd iron still can be copied tho. no way around it really
vocal shard
Can I ask what’s going on fam
placid pivot
uwu
shell nest
@noble edge 😛 i was trained in Net+ Sec+ CCNA and MCSA
vocal shard
I spent a year making a model, gets stolen with one click
tepid raptor
@umbral reef that's why I'm saying it's a rumor. I've seen copycat in action and they could only take models, not the names
wild wadi
@vocal shard Servers are currently having issues. Please check #announcements for updates.
ionic hamlet
monkaS
crystal epoch
Show models via encrypted data streams and scrambled packets.
vocal shard
Thanks fam
placid pivot
which are decrypted on the client end
noble edge
@shell nest CCNP bish
warped nymph
@lofty quest If he steals your name, there's not much use in screenshoting your own name
odd iron
@flint gust Of course, but my nameplate and model was mirrored a few days ago and just kind of annoying more than anything else. I already reported, etc.
wise surge
you realize encryption is for transportation
vital bay
placid pivot
and theres nothing you can do about that
low dune
Anybody else get space when they try to log in
flint gust
@crystal epoch it does that kinda, but youknow...its unity
shell nest
@noble edge bows down oh my master I shall follow in your steed!!!
gaunt bear
yeah i do
wild wadi
@low dune Servers are currently having issues. Please check #announcements for updates.
noble edge
@shell nest ❤
meager plaza
xd
placid pivot
"I hash all my packets with SHA-256"
lofty quest
Pees are spamin omg
placid pivot
vocal shard
Encrypt the decryption and then encrypt the decrypted dycrypter
gaunt bear
how long with it take to fix?
vocal shard
Duh
raw sundial
this game needs a disclaimer for the models; it was obvious to me that the models can be copied, there's no way around it. AAA devs can't do it either because it's impossible.
lofty quest
H
meager plaza
whole day maybe
native obsidian
maybe with vrchat actually down, the knuckles will realize what they're doing and stop coming back to it
inner fern
👀
low dune
XD
crystal epoch
But will people actually bother reversing encryption especially when the packets are scrambled? But idk it works well for Sketchfab.
placid pivot
tiny fjord
XD hopefully
placid pivot
stoic goblet
The day that happens there will be a day of celebration
undone belfry
@native obsidian we can only hope
raw sundial
@crystal epoch you can still copy the streamed model
everything has to be drawn in the end
vocal shard
There’s also the crusaders though. They’ll just fill in the void
soft skiff
I dont like the knuckles but at the same time they do provide a lot of content
noble edge
It's bringing attention to the game
wild wadi
Youtubers: Don't take away Knuckles meme, my ad revenue
xd
stoic goblet
Hey, Im a crusader myself and we arent just gonna become the new knuckles, yo
noble edge
Which is good, but it's not good that the game is not prepared for scale
tiny fjord
my boyfriend likes the knuckles xD
shut fossil
Yo, boys, why the fuck can't I got to the login?
wild wadi
@shut fossil Servers are currently having issues. Please check #announcements for updates.
vocal shard
Servers deaded
plain current
Crusaders will become just as bad as the knuckles through
noble edge
@shut fossil #announcements
vocal shard
Lmfao
plain current
That's the thing
native obsidian
i like the knuckles that do stuff with their models and contribute to the community
vocal shard
@wild wadi ❤
stoic goblet
How so? @plain current
plain current
It's like a horseshoe
wild wadi
uwu
vocal shard
I don’t see how they’ll avoid it
shut fossil
Cheers, @wild wadi
warped nymph
@soft skiff I hate knuckles, but I wouldn't know about the game without them at all
vocal shard
And I’m in the god damn serber
noble edge
It also means a lot of people are trying Unity and 3D modelling for the first time
Great for the gaming industry
vocal shard
the knuckles i've met ingame are mostly really nice and polite and bring fun with them
tiny fjord
I just spend my time in the hub
tired sphinx
I remember seeing a video called "get any vrchat avatar easily" yesterday, curious if that's where all this BS is coming from but I can't find that video
tepid cape
this game is turning me in to a weeb
vocal shard
and they give me interactible items
stoic goblet
Most of the knuckles ive met told me to kill myself
vocal shard
3D modelling is depressing, I can’t atlas to save my life
stoic goblet
Not good times...
vocal shard
ayy
meager plaza
actually got into anime again cause of VRChat
noble edge
@tepid cape 
rich ember
@noble edge I may have used blender/unity for the first time to upload my avatar, but litteraly did no modeling
north bloom
Nameplate editing is not allowed?
placid pivot
tiny fjord
first people I met were nice and funny... then I met this person who kept asking to draw on my pussy so I left back to the hub
umbral reef
@tiny fjord Welcome to vrchat after the user explosion
wild wadi
not at the moment @vocal shard
meager plaza
xd
noble edge
@north bloom I hope they change the style of the nameplates or at least make them configurable. They look like trash
stoic goblet
I made my avatar from scratch in blender to unity to vrchat, it may be only 2566 polys but im proud of it
placid pivot
if you giveth anonymity you getteth the trollage