vrchat-general-1

[brisk oyster]

Ohhhhh

No

Ok

Do you suggest any groups with women

[unborn torrent]

no because women are fake, figment of imagination

[lucid wave]

This is not a dating discord im afraid

[unborn torrent]

is it normal to get a warning from dyno when i wasnt speaking (also without an explanation)

[brisk oyster]

Not looking for dates looking for a conversation

[half steeple]

You are a real one

[lucid wave]

Dyno warnings come from chatmods. Someone reported a message of yours and it was deemed to be a rulebreak. That can be any message youve ever sent

[unborn torrent]

also hi vrc team person :D

[half steeple]

Finding a windows96 fan in the wild is so rare

[unborn torrent]

im assuming they have to be accepted by the chatmods

[half steeple]

They are the same person

[tribal snow]

fr

remember, even if somebody sounds like a woman on vrc, thats 100% a man

[half steeple]

Truth nuke

[unborn torrent]

might even be a femboy

[tribal snow]

fr

all girls on vrc are actually a femboys

[pseudo ice]

And they hated him, for he spoke the truth.

Also hello, new here. Been on VRchat for ten days, yada yada stereotypical introduction.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905267728267489314/1038247158320730162/file.gif

[tribal snow]

brace urself

[pseudo ice]

Noted.

[tribal snow]

😳 👍

[next bolt]

Slowly the situation is reminiscent of Discord, where new features are being added mainly for Nitro owners, and it's getting to the point of moronic. You want to change the background that only you can see? Buy a Nitro. You want to change the little discord icon in Direct? Buy nitro. You want a beautiful backdrop for your avatar? Buy nitro, and then buy the backdrop. We need all your money, man.
At the same time I use Telegram where some of the features that are in Discord are free, for example the same stickers that I can use as and wherever I want are completely free.

[pseudo ice]

I've been looking for a Discord alternative for that EXACT reason. Among others.

[lucid wave]

You're free to voice your frustration but at the end of the day the core VRChat experience is completely free. We are a business, we need to make money somehow to keep the lights on. Adding premium features to our subscription is one way of doing so.

[lost mauve]

Among... us!?

[lucid wave]

People complain about VRC+ not having enough value so we add more value to it.

[lost mauve]

you can never make it right for everyone
someone will always complain

[pseudo ice]

Also true

[lucid wave]

And its okay, everyone can voice their opinions, but - again - at the end of the day we need to make money as a business to be able to offer the core experience for free.

Which tbh, we're already giving a lot away for free in the core experience.

[unborn torrent]

i mean its a free game
it costs $100 just to upload a game to steam (not that much for a business but still)

[tribal snow]

why bother when u got free discord mod 👀

[unborn torrent]

takes money to pay ze employees

[tribal snow]

but about vrc thats true

like 90% of vrc+ is just needless fr

[unborn torrent]

to you

[next bolt]

I understand the need to make money. I don't mind Camera Drone and Camera Dolly being available via VRC+, because regular users have an alternative for screenshots in the form of a regular camera. But what alternative do PC users have to using their hand? Reach your hand into the mirror? Really?

[unborn torrent]

for example: the new cameras are useful for avi creators bc it allows for more/easier ways to show off avatars

[tribal snow]

depends

[pseudo ice]

Oh hey, I learned about that trick last night. It's a game changer.

[unborn torrent]

ngl idk what this means

[lucid wave]

I think selfie expression is a perfect example of a premium feature. You get some very niche special tech that none of our competitors offer and in exchange you pay for the subscription.

[tribal snow]

camera features good, but u dont need it to make good avi at all...

[lucid wave]

It's an upgrade to the core desktop experience.

[wild rover]

Is it highly suggest to use a right a angle charger ?

[unborn torrent]

is selfie expression the changing expressions or smt with the camera

i didnt rlly read a whole lot of ze changes

[lucid wave]

It's eye, head, mouth and hand tracking for desktop using a camera

[unborn torrent]

i was pretty close

[pseudo ice]

So my laptop camera would track and apply my facial movements to my avatar? That's slick NGL

[unborn torrent]

i wish i knew what i was warned for
idk what mean thing i said 🥲

[lucid wave]

As long as the avatar supports it (with basic visemes and eye setup) yes

[tribal snow]

mostly vrc content creators gonna benefit from it, but all othem got vrc+ forever anyway x

[lucid wave]

How do content creators get VRC+ for free?

[tribal snow]

not free, they just extend it

[unborn torrent]

with what-

moni?

[lucid wave]

By paying money? Yeah thats how a subscription works

[tribal snow]

from my point its based to sponsor ur main content platform

[lucid wave]

[tribal snow]

maybe im just descibing it wrongly xD

[unborn torrent]

vrc+ isnt sponsoring

[lucid wave]

Yeah i dont think ur getting the point across

[tribal snow]

2nd lang, so sorry xD

[unborn torrent]

pe laf :D

[lucid wave]

its ok its my second language too

[next bolt]

In my opinion, if a PC user will always have the money to buy VRC+ to use Selfie Expression, it will be easier (and probably cheaper in the future) for them to buy some Oculus Quest or Pico than to pay money for the feature every month.
In my opinion, it can be done in a way that both developers can earn extra money from this feature and players will be happy. The ability to use hands is open to everyone, and the head is already in the VRC+ subscription.

[cosmic trail]

Sai, as a long time VRC+ subscriber (since day 1), may I ask what happend to the promise of some VRC+ features becoming available to everyone?
Because there are definitely a few that should not be behind a paywall, like User Icons.

[unborn torrent]

Sai who's the most based vrc team member

[tribal snow]

just find vrc mommy, who ll buy vrc+ for u

seems as a good plan

[lucid wave]

That promise is consistently being re-evaluated as we add more features to VRC+

[unborn torrent]

vrc sugar mommy/daddy is wild 😭

[pseudo ice]

To be fair, English is my first & only language, and it's not easy for anyone.

[tribal snow]

they exist! xd

seen proof with my friend

[unborn torrent]

i know

[tribal snow]

😂

[tribal snow]

when u ll become one?

[unborn torrent]

no.

[tribal snow]

[next bolt]

It's hard to express yourself in a language other than your mother tongue xD

[lucid wave]

@coarse steeple for sure

[tribal snow]

fr, if u use it only in vrc

[unborn torrent]

dont even need the admin role, peak

[lucid wave]

You can get a lot of months of VRC+ to get to the point of a VR Headset. On top of that a VR headset is expensive to run. You either require the right hardware to use it on a PC or you get a slightly downgraded experience on standalone. This is a valid middleground for people to be able to get some more expression in the meantime without having to shill out a full headset price.

And again, its completely optional and can be cancelled at any time.

[coral sundial]

I think they were talking about how for example big streamers get all champions in League of Legends for free.

[lucid wave]

Well we dont have a partner programm like that.

[unborn torrent]

hi annieiee :D
can i dm you frfr

[cosmic trail]

to quote strasz from the Changelog video: "Show, don't tell".
IIRC, none of the ever introduced VRC+ features has become available to everyone...

[coral sundial]

ye

[lucid wave]

That's correct, so far they haven't.

If you've watched any of our developer streams we talk about this pretty transparently

At the moment our focus is on generating revenue so we don't have to worry about revenue in the long run. Once that's achieved we are able to focus on other areas more again.

[cosmic trail]

I don't watch streams, sorry >.<
(no streams, at all)

[coral sundial]

I can't watch the streams Twitch ads make me wanna take my brain and put it in the trash.

[unborn torrent]

i know it says age veri available earlier access with vrc, but i assume it wont become free

[lucid wave]

We will make a vods channel very soon

so you can watch the vods on youtube without worrying about ads :)

[coral sundial]

Could just also stream to YT. 👀

[lucid wave]

And by we i mean myself

[coral sundial]

But I do agree YT has a garbage chat system.

[lucid wave]

Not a fan of youtube for streaming

[pseudo ice]

Oh that could be cool to kill time while I sit at work doing nothing

[lucid wave]

Im biased as hell as a twitch partner but i prefer being on the platform we're on

[unborn torrent]

twitch partner for wha

[pseudo ice]

You could do both? Simul-streaming is a potential option

[coral sundial]

Honestly, i think their streaming setup is pretty good it's just that their chat layout is like the worst I've seen out there. I'm unsure why they've never refined it to bring it up to part with Twitch or even Kick.

[cosmic trail]

I fully understand that, which is the reason why I pay for VRC+, to support the company.
But it just paints a bad picture on the company as well, if promises aren't kept...

[lucid wave]

Then we have to worry about chat merging, multistream also encodes two different streams at diff bitrates etc.

[next bolt]

Well, I put my thought in terms of standalone mode. Basically, it all depends on how much a person wants to invest in virtual reality, and how profitable it would be for them to buy a VRC+ if they take it for selfies.
Anyway, that's my take on it. I'm afraid that one day VrChat will become like Discord, where new features are added, but for most users they are not available on subscription. Again, I want developers to make money, but there should be a golden mean. These are the features that will be more reasonable in VRC+ subscription, and these are the features we will give to all the guys, let them be happy.

[lucid wave]

Just because it isn't fulfilled in the near-future doesnt mean it won't ever be.

[coral sundial]

And of-course no API for Streamers to use to allow users to interact with the stream like Twitch has.

[pseudo ice]

Oh yeah, fair. I simul-stream through OBS and don't have merged chats.

Might be an issue for people with acual viewers. XD

[lucid wave]

Tiwtch is just the de-facto best streaming plattform

that being said, youtube better for vods

[unborn torrent]

cus yt saves them all i think

[lucid wave]

I mean ill manually upload our vods there

[coral sundial]

I should probably post my money making idea... on https://feedback.vrchat.com/

[cosmic trail]

Well, it's been more then 4 years since the introduction, that's not really "in the near-future" anymore.

[fluid bane]

Good morning vrchat general chat 1 I miss my wife

[pseudo ice]

Yeah that's what I'm probably gonna do, stream on Twoitch and VOD to Youtube. Seems alot easier.

[unborn torrent]

which one

[fluid bane]

Yes

[pseudo ice]

Especially since Twitch limited everyone to... what, 100 hours of stored footage?

[lucid wave]

A lot of things that were said / planned 4 years ago just are realistically not accurate anymore. We've gone from a startup to an actual company in that time, scaled up operations, introduced an actual management layer and reprioritized basically every single aspect of the company

Sorry to go full corpo speak but thats just how the reality is

[unborn torrent]

did you get a chance to look at my dm btw

[coral sundial]

If you've just sent it, not yet. Writing something real quick.

[lucid wave]

4 years ago was a lot of "lets build this cause it could be fun". At the moment its a lot more of "lets build this because it can sustain us as a business in the long run so we can make some features again that are fun"

[pseudo ice]

Priorities.

[lucid wave]

That being said, i think we're doing a good job of combining fun and monetization atm.

I assure you you're being heard though. Like i said, VRC+ is obviously a very important topic for us at the moment and as such a lot of things are constantly being considered.

[pseudo ice]

Ten days in, I have no complaints. Aside from nitpicky issues with EasyAntiCheat being a butt.

[cosmic trail]

Don't be sorry to tell the truth ;)
I understand that, but at the same time the company also needs to understand that the community is what's the value is of it. And keeping the community happy is very much important to keep the lights on in the long run. Unless you want to go full enshitification and just start milking.
It's a thin ridge to walk to find the middle ground ;)

[waxen field]

The drone stuff is cool but is there any features on the works that won’t be locked behind vrc+?? I don’t think there has been one in at least 4 months

[lucid wave]

I'm fairly certain we've been doing a lot of a better job at keeping the community happy than we have ~2years ago. The reception across all platforms is usually very positive now when updates roll out and in general i also believe we've been a lot better at communicating our ideas and efforts to the community.

It feels a lot less like we're just steering blindly from a community POV.

We make an effort to let people know where we're heading and why.

[cosmic trail]

but I think it would be nice to see at least some small features becoming available to everyone, some of those features shouldn't cost the company nothing at all (or very little) to release to everyone, like some of the first features (menu background and user icons for example)

[lucid wave]

I dont disagree at all

[waxen field]

I feel like vrc is a tad over monetized

[lucid wave]

Its funny because peoples biggest complaint was it doesnt have enough value

now we add value to it and now the other side complains

[cosmic trail]

Oh, I can see that. It's much much better then it was in 2020 for example ^^'
So good job!

[pseudo ice]

You will never make both sides happy.

[next bolt]

I started playing VrChat since last October. It was probably the best gaming experience I had last year

[lucid wave]

Of course, but the majority is happy with how it is so thats a good thing to aim for.

[waxen field]

Well look at it from people who don’t have its perspective. You guys add a marketplace lock age verification behind vrc+ and then haven’t made a non vrc+ feature since persistence.

It’s not a great look

[lucid wave]

Age verification is locked behind vrc+ because it directly costs us money to verify you.

You can pay for a single month and get verified and cancel again

[wild rover]

Guys what’s the best way to charge the Q3 while playing, but not causing it to overheat.

[tribal snow]

people ll always complain, just choose benefits at the first place

[cosmic trail]

well, the biggest reason for that is that most people don't understand how investment works and how much it costs to run such a backend.
You don't want to know how often I heard it from people that VRChat got millions from HTC and other companies.

[unborn torrent]

is it possible to refund the vrc+ after verifying? thatd be silly

[lucid wave]

VRC+ is non-refundable

[waxen field]

Isn’t vrc like the biggest vr game on the market. And didn’t they just add a marketplace??

[unborn torrent]

didnt know that

[lucid wave]

Biggest VR game on the market? no, thats gorilla tag, a game with much stronger monetization.

[pseudo ice]

Wait, verification stays even after you stop paying for the feature that gives it to you in the first place? That's neat

[lucid wave]

Yes, you can literally pay a one time fee (1 month sub) to get verified.

[pseudo ice]

How much is VRC+ again?

[lucid wave]

Okay anyway, as much as i love yapping about the platform we are all very passionate about, i got some stuff to do

[lucid wave]

10 bucks iirc

[cosmic trail]

same with groups that you created, tho I think you can't change the Icons or Images IIRC, but change everything else.

[unborn torrent]

we should make it $10 and 1 cent

[pseudo ice]

That's half the price IMVU charged me for the same thing fifteen years ago.

[lucid wave]

Thats right, you cant update the images because theyre tied to the gallery which is a vrc+ feature

[coral sundial]

I'm about to get obliterated for this post, I feel it. https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/groups-more-advanced-features-for-groups-as-a-subscription-for-group-owners

[waxen field]

Despite the logic it defeats the purpose of age verification. Which is to make sure people of a certain age can’t get into 18+ instances. When you lock that behind a paywall it’s not reliable so people won’t use it for its intended purpose

[lucid wave]

Our data shows otherwise

[next bolt]

By the way, and with the new Selfie Expression feature, there could be a lot of new vtubers....

[unborn torrent]

great feature
didnt read it but i can already tell

[void pulsar]

good luck with work

[waxen field]

I rarely if ever see 18+ instances

[lucid wave]

Its not work, im clocked out for the night lol

[coral sundial]

@void pulsar I posted the thing.

[lucid wave]

ive already done my hours today

[void pulsar]

Oh.. I just started

Have fun!

[lucid wave]

Depends on the communities youre in. I see them all the time cause the communities im active in make an effort to host them

[cosmic trail]

then go do something else. Work/life balance is important.

[lucid wave]

Ok anyway, enough stalling, time to go

[pseudo ice]

Have a good night

[unborn torrent]

byeee

[waxen field]

Gn

[cosmic trail]

Bye :3

[next bolt]

Bye

[lucid wave]

Ty everyone for keeping the conversations civil, makes it a lot more enjoyable to transparently talk about things

[waxen field]

Though when the team spends 6 months doing nothing more then beefing up vrc+ and making a marketplace. You must see how that screams greedy corporation. A feature not related to profit every once in a while would go a long way

[lucid wave]

I don't honestly. 95% of the vrchat experience are completely free

[waxen field]

My point still stands. Persistence was the last major update for non vrc+ and that was months and months ago

[next bolt]

I'm pleased that I'm not getting banned for my opinion, which may not be to the developer's liking 🙃

[lucid wave]

As long as you stay civil while expressing it nobody will ban you

[waxen field]

Obviously Vrc needs profits I don’t argue against that. They need to make vrc+ enticing

However when you neglect anything besides that it’s not a good look

[lucid wave]

I don't believe we do

[waxen field]

Again there hasn’t been a significant feature for non vrc+ since persistence

Which I will say is absolutely amazing persistence is great but it’s not half a year great

[fluid bane]

What significant features that change the main experience has vrc+ gotten in half a year?

[cosmic trail]

well, we all know that VRC+ is the least expensive part of playing VRChat >.<

[waxen field]

Well age verification for first.

Then you have the ability to print out photos to easily share with friends

[tribal snow]

fr

[cosmic trail]

but that one does kinda make sense, as it does cost the company money to do so.

[fluid bane]

As sai mentioned, that directly costs them money for each verification so giving it to free users makes no sense

[pseudo ice]

Definitely cheaper than OTHER 3D emulator clients' premium features.

[void pulsar]

Yeah, that's probably also the most expensive feature they ever added to VRChat. So I'm not surprised that went in the VRC+ bucket.

If you can think of a way that age verification will make VRChat money, then no doubt it will be free.

[waxen field]

I understand that but the more they add to make vrc+ more enticing and push the marketplace. The less power that argument. Has

The marketplace actually negatively affected a lot of worlds

[cosmic trail]

and if you spend any significant amount of time on VRChat to warrant to be age verified, a one time 10$ isn't as expensive as it sounds.
Just think how expensive it is to watch a movie in the theater, and that gives you entertainment for what? 2-3h?

[cosmic trail]

I agree. I hate seing more and more monatization in the worlds. There were quite a few worlds that I just left, because it was to much.

[waxen field]

Because the economy is kinda crap rn

[pseudo ice]

Yep

[fluid bane]

Not really? If age verification were to be free they would have to make up the cost elsewhere. The vrc+ features we've gotten besides that are fun yes, but they're really not essential to the experience

[waxen field]

That’s my point. The monetisation seems to be taking full priority and they seem to be ignoring the rest of the game

[cosmic trail]

true, which makes running the platform also more difficult ;)

[fluid bane]

They're really not

[waxen field]

Again. Persistence was the last major feature to the game and that was a while ago

[cosmic trail]

IIRC, the highest cost for VRChat is the backend and bandwidth

and IIRC, they use AWS for datastorage and the API (not the real time sync stuff), which... you know, greedy amazon

[waxen field]

I’m not asking much. They can still beef up vrc+ but for every vrc+ feature can they improve the base game as well??

[fluid bane]

And they are currently working on implementing Steam Audio, and have also since made improvements to the camera for everyone

[waxen field]

I have noticed literally no difference in the camera

[cosmic trail]

steam audio will be a big thing, they are working on it since years >.<

[fluid bane]

I would argue that the base game has gotten more major features than vrc+. Most things in vrc+ are minor at best

[waxen field]

Like what??

[cosmic trail]

https://wiki.vrchat.com/wiki/VRC%2B

[fluid bane]

Like improving the camera's flying mode, persistence, and steam audio

[void pulsar]

I think the problem with vrc+ features is that they are usually extremely visible.
While the updates to the core of VRChat in general are very backend

[cosmic trail]

here you see a list of all VRC+ features

[sage relic]

The voices in the walls

[cosmic trail]

all the updates and improvements to the SDK as well

[waxen field]

Persistence was the last noticeable thing

[fluid bane]

Mhm

[cosmic trail]

also, let's not forget how stable VRChat is since the last... about 2-3 years

it was terrible in 2020 and 2021

[waxen field]

The stability is still not great

[void pulsar]

oh god... I remember the 2 day outage back in 2020

people were livid...

[fluid bane]

Steam Audio isn't in just yet (it's in beta if you want to check it out), and a lot of people appreciate the improvements to the camera a lot more than you do

[cosmic trail]

people crashing, left and right, and at every big holiday and new user record, the API just choked and kicked thens of thousands of people ^^'

[waxen field]

Get more than 30 people
In an instance and it can barely handle itself

[cosmic trail]

nowdays, a new user record isn't felt by everyone anymore ^^

[void pulsar]

I think that says more about the type of avatars people use in the instance then VRChat it self

[waxen field]

Even when you’re looking at anybody

[void pulsar]

The community meetup hammers instances with 60 to 80 people every weekend in experimental worlds. Yes we crash sometimes, but that's almost always down to a error in the world we visit. So if we are doing fine with 60 to 80 people in a instance and vrchat events regularly pull full instances over the weekend, then why have you trouble with only 30?

[waxen field]

I mean you still can’t send messages across instances despite the fact you can do so via invites

[cosmic trail]

you'll always have performance issues with user created content.

[void pulsar]

Now you're grasping for straws.

[cosmic trail]

that will always be the case, on any platform

[waxen field]

Not really

[fluid bane]

Oh right, another major thing outside of vrc+ is vrc constraints. Quest users can have constraints now, and on pc they're just easier to work with and much faster than unity constraints

[cosmic trail]

oh yeah, Avatar Dynamics and the constraints are a god send >.<

also: much more performant then what we used to have

[fluid bane]

That's what I said

[waxen field]

So people with vrc+ get a drone

And you get a slightly better way to make avatars

[cosmic trail]

that's available to everyone that has the user rank

[waxen field]

I know it’s just a very small feature

[cosmic trail]

there are no VRC+ features related to the SDK

[fluid bane]

It's not very small lmao

[waxen field]

Yet*

[cosmic trail]

well, apart from the monatization stuff for worlds, but I just ignore that, as it's related to the creators

[fluid bane]

Especially for Quest users, vrc constraints open the door to a lot of cool stuff

[waxen field]

It exists. Even if you ignore it you can’t deny it’s not fun

[waxen field]

Right quest users still barely work. Aren’t able to use half the avatars and worlds

[cosmic trail]

I ignore it in worlds as well, and if the creator uses it to much, I just leave the world

[waxen field]

The fact they have the option

[cosmic trail]

which has technical reasons

[waxen field]

Hasn’t that been a thing for years now?

[cosmic trail]

and always will be
A decently powerful gaming PC has much more processing power than a beefy SoC

[waxen field]

Aren’t most vrc worlds even on pc around 200mb

[cosmic trail]

*beefy mobile SoC

[cosmic trail]

depends, I think most are under 200MB

[fluid bane]

Buddy the Quest is a phone strapped to your face, what do you expect? PC performance?

[waxen field]

Obviously not

[cosmic trail]

but that is just the data, things need to be processed in realtime, like the rendering. And something that isn't really available on quest is transparency, because it's somewhat expensive to render

[fluid bane]

Somewhat is an understatement

[void pulsar]

I think... vrchat should release stats like "average world size"

[cosmic trail]

also, the quest has what, 6 or 8GB of RAM in total?
Most PCs have 16-32GB of RAM + 8GB of VRAM

[lucid yacht]

Does anyone know how to use the selfie expressions feature in vrchat beta?

(sorry if this has been asked before)

[waxen field]

I don’t know just feels like if they’re monetizing their game this much they would be able to do some real cool stuff

But have yet to do so

[fluid bane]

All you're telling us is that you're ignoring most of the platform

[waxen field]

I spend a crapload of time on the platform.

[fluid bane]

And if something doesn't work on quest it's the fault of the creator, not vrc

[cosmic trail]

or the hardware ;)

[waxen field]

Ok

Still doesn’t fix that fact that with that kind of money they should be able to do a lot more than they are

[fluid bane]

You can spend a lot of time with something and not use half of its features

[unborn torrent]

meow

[cosmic trail]

for example the World that has a RISC-V emulator running on the GPU (as a shader) which boots up a bare bones Linux OS

[void pulsar]

I'm curious, do what?

[waxen field]

You have yet to mention a feature that matters to most users

[fluid bane]

And what kind of money exactly

[waxen field]

The money you get from making vrc+ more enticing

And adding an entire marketplace to your game

[fluid bane]

Persistence, steam audio, and vrc constraints are all things that matter to most users

[cosmic trail]

we were talking about a lot of those features, but if you aren't creating avatars or worlds, you might haven't noticed them yet

[waxen field]

I swear vrc+ has doubled its features over the last year

And that along with the marketplace is bound to draw in a lot more money for the game

[fluid bane]

Even if you're not creating avatars, vrc constraints have directly improved your framerates

[worthy pawn]

Is there away to fix this yt-dlp thing? I so would love to watch YouTube vids again on my quest 2

[waxen field]

If anything my framerate is worse

[fluid bane]

It would be worse without them

[cosmic trail]

much worse

same with dynamic bones that we used to have

[waxen field]

I am simply sick of the video game industry exploiting the crap out of people trying to have a good time

[fluid bane]

Also a year ago vrc+ had like two features, so... Yes?

[waxen field]

And these scream the same exact thing

[cosmic trail]

that's very much understandable, but VRChat isn't really a video game, it's a social plattform ;)
And they aren't as bad, rather mild, one might say

[void pulsar]

I see VRC+ more like an injection of capital to keep the platform afloat longer then with the initial captial they have. Perhaps if EVERYONE in VRChat would get VRC+ then they would not have money issues at all.. but then imho you're building something diffrent.

[fluid bane]

The only thing in vrc+ I would consider to be somewhat essential or major is prints, and maybe the dolly camera. Anything else is fairly minor

[cosmic trail]

this is also what it is meant to be

[waxen field]

Would you call Roblox monetization mild??

Because the marketplace is a little lighter. However very similar

[cosmic trail]

I know nothing about roblox

[void pulsar]

from my perspective, super aggressive

[waxen field]

They have the vrc marketplace but a little more intense

However they have no subscription

And they are considered absurdly heavily monetized

[fluid bane]

The vrc marketplace is just up to creators how they want to use it

[worthy pawn]

I do hope vrc finds away to fix this YouTube video bug thing that is going around

[void pulsar]

so? you want roblox monetization within VRChat?

[cosmic trail]

that happens all the time and you can thank youtube for that

[waxen field]

The hope is the creators are greedy with it because more greedy creators= more profit

[bleak orchid]

obviously

[waxen field]

I’m comparing vrc monstisation to it as the base systems are quite similar

[bleak orchid]

this is tinfoil hat type shit

[waxen field]

Not really. Just basic buisness

[bleak orchid]

Lol ok

[waxen field]

That’s just how a system like this works

[unborn torrent]

@steel granite lumi is out!

[waxen field]

The more people heavily use it the more profit the creator of the system makes

It’s not a conspiracy that’s just how it works from
A buisness perspective.

[bleak orchid]

🤪

[waxen field]

If you’re just gonna be a jerk I’m not interested in arguing with you

[cosmic trail]

it's also one of the few incomes that VRChat Inc. has. They do have to pay for all the infrastructure and developers somehow. And the investors also want some kickback...

[fluid bane]

How dare the evil evil corporation give creators a way to monetize their work on their platform

[cosmic trail]

they have to balance it. And so far, they aren't too terrible about it

[waxen field]

They used a near replica of a system that did t work out well

Roblox is a over monetized cesspool and the two systems are identical say for a few exceptions

[fluid bane]

Simply don't go to worlds that are more aggressively monetized than you'd like

It really is that simple

[waxen field]

Why are they allowing worlds to aggressively monetize themselves???

[cosmic trail]

there are many many wonderful worlds created by people because of passion, and not money

[fluid bane]

Why not?

[bleak orchid]

LMAO

[cosmic trail]

Organism comes to mind, for example

[waxen field]

Because it hurts the overall game

[fluid bane]

Then don't visit those

[waxen field]

Organism was made before the marketplace

[waxen field]

And when that’s nearly every world?

[void pulsar]

I'm curious, what do you consider world monetization within VRChat?

[bleak orchid]

Bold prediction

[fluid bane]

Well it's not, so... idk what you're on about

[waxen field]

I consider the marketplace and vrc+ as the monetisation

[cosmic trail]

honestly, worse then some of the trinkets you can get in some worlds are the ads that some worlds are showing...

[void pulsar]

??? so? eeh? eh?

[waxen field]

And any addition to either is furthering said monetisation

[waxen field]

They are the features that require you pay money to access them

Pretty cut n dry

[fluid bane]

I'm inclined to agree, seeing those posters all over a world makes me not wanna go there again

[void pulsar]

but... those are not world features?

[fluid bane]

So I go elsewhere

[bleak orchid]

Old man yells at cloud

[waxen field]

Again why are these things allowed to exist in the first place

They don’t benefit the majority of users

They benefit vrcs wallet and that’s it

[jagged raven]

barapapapapaa

[bleak orchid]

Why sell a car I don't want?

[fluid bane]

So this is gonna sound crazy, but some people want to support creators and platforms they like

[bleak orchid]

Stupid vehicle manufacturers

[waxen field]

Patreon exists

[bleak orchid]

Not false!

[cosmic trail]

the ads are a creator only thing, VRChat has nothing to do with that

[bleak orchid]

More choice is better

[waxen field]

They are effectively gods.they could stop it if they really wanted to

[cosmic trail]

kinda difficult, because user generated content

[soft spoke]

Do you guys know where to get a face camera?, I’m just asking because my monitor is curved and not sure what camera i should have

[fluid bane]

They could add a ToS clause against it, but when has that ever stopped anyone

[waxen field]

Put in worlds advertisements on the list of punishable offenses. problem solved

Or at least heavily mitigated

[bleak orchid]

This is crazy

[clear jasper]

Why should it be?

[bleak orchid]

because they don't like them

[waxen field]

Because nobody seems to like them??

[golden hound]

Hiii

[clear jasper]

Then just don't go in the world with ads?

[bleak orchid]

That's not good enough.

[waxen field]

Kinda hard when most of the top worlds have ads

[clear jasper]

Don't go to them then.

[bleak orchid]

There are so many worlds

[cosmic trail]

*cough* https://github.com/AdGoBye/AdGoBye

[bleak orchid]

So so so many

[waxen field]

🤦‍♂️

[cosmic trail]

but I think that is against ToS

[waxen field]

The solution to stuff you don’t like isn’t just ignoring it

It still exists and it’s still a problem

[bleak orchid]

Better yet, make your own!

Put your money where your mouth is

[clear jasper]

The problem is just only "people don't like it"?

[cosmic trail]

sometimes it is, for your own sanity

[waxen field]

Yes generally if a part of a game is disliked by a majority of people it’s better removed

[waxen field]

Ok I’m sick of this

[bleak orchid]

Just go to a different world

There ARE other options

[clear jasper]

Like or dislike is subjective. It'd be more more arguable if it's objectively bad.

[waxen field]

If you guys wanna support vrc turning into an over monetized cesspool with ads and payments everywhere. Where you can’t walk without vrc+ be my guest

I’m tired and going to bed

[fluid bane]

What if I go to your world huh how about that (it's really pretty)

[azure reef]

You act like you can do something about it

[bleak orchid]

😳 😊

[waxen field]

A single individual can’t. But a community can

[void pulsar]

2313731

[clear jasper]

Disallowing monetization would make it less quality worlds. Creator can choose to monetize, and consumer can choose wether they like to support the creator or not.

[bleak orchid]

Fact of the matter is those ads generally support the existence/maintenance of that world. If you want to simulate your no ads policy, pretend those worlds don't exist anymore and HOLY SHIT you're choosing a different world anyway

[waxen field]

It would not be hard to limit and manage it to ensure monetisation doesn’t get out of hand

But they have taken zero measures

[clear jasper]

"When goes out of hand" that is the line where consumer can decide whether they fed up with it and part from that creator.

[azure reef]

Why limit support? Being supported actively helps people in general not just vrc alone

[waxen field]

You trust the masses to make good judgement?? That has never gone well

[azure reef]

If you dont like ads simply ignore it. Its not really hard

[cosmic trail]

well, over here we do. Something something direct democracy. And it worked out well since 700 years.

[waxen field]

Just like you can ignore an unstoppable 40 minute YouTube add

[waxen field]

Define worked out well

[clear jasper]

Take a look back at the top world you mentioned, why is it still at the top while still having some kind of monetization?

[azure reef]

You can buy no ads or ad blocker

[cosmic trail]

well, look at the history of Switzerland, and you'll learn something ;)

[waxen field]

Again asking for payment. Or external recourses

[azure reef]

But ads also SUPPORT YouTubers who put ads

[waxen field]

Which doesn’t fix the base issue

[azure reef]

Also like im SUPPORTING the YouTuber

[waxen field]

Yeah I live in America so i am quite familiar with that going horribly wrong

[clear jasper]

This makes the issue "a few people doesn't like ads".

[waxen field]

A few people?

[fluid bane]

I don't think youtube has 40 minutes long ads

[waxen field]

Do you get up every day beaming to watch ads??

[cosmic trail]

understandable, the US is a failed democracy ;)

[waxen field]

Democracy can easily fail

And does most of the time

Why trust it

[clear jasper]

Does the ads in those worlds push the poster right on your face when you entered?

[waxen field]

They are in your line of sight when you spawn in so yeah

That world has 9k people in it regularily

[azure reef]

Some worlds allow you to disable the ad

[coral sundial]

@cosmic trail I'm sad that EAC is just not smart. 😭

[clear jasper]

In line of sight but out of focus, right?

[waxen field]

Keyword. Some they aren’t required to do so

[waxen field]

Uh no

[azure reef]

It seems like you actively look at the ads just to get mad

[waxen field]

Uh no they are just everywhere

[azure reef]

Since only you complain about them so far

[waxen field]

Ok this is going nowhere

[azure reef]

Been like that since your first sentence

[waxen field]

If you guys wanna live in a Vrc where you have to pay to walk be my guest

[unborn torrent]

hi ren

[waxen field]

I’m sick of trying to prevent stupid crap

[azure reef]

Bro is over his head

[clear jasper]

The solution would always be if people can't really tolerate it, they would just stop visiting those world by themselves.

[waxen field]

And if that’s the platform??

[azure reef]

Vrc isnt putting ads in the world

[clear jasper]

What even that platform mean?

[waxen field]

They’re allowing it.

[azure reef]

Ads support creators? Can you not understand that?

[clear jasper]

I'd repeat again, the solution would always be if people can't really tolerate it, they would just stop visiting those world by themselves.

[azure reef]

Dont like it? Leave the world

[waxen field]

For heck’s sake you trust people far too much

[waxen field]

That’s not a very good solution to any issue

[worthy jacinth]

why shouldn't world creators be allowed to put ads in their worlds? Is it really that big of a deal? the worlds are free to visit after all.

[waxen field]

Ok I’m putting my foot down

[mint niche]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, haven’t slept for the last 20 hours

[waxen field]

Goodnight

[jagged raven]

Why is every person in this damn chat complaining. Yall surpassed the genshin community

[azure reef]

T h i s

[void pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-nigel-ng-comedian-sad-upset-gif-26884931

[clear jasper]

Majority of people are fine with how the worlds are doing right now.

[azure reef]

Making a twitlonger about you as we speak

[worthy jacinth]

just make your own world lmao

[jagged raven]

nop

[worthy jacinth]

can't expect people to do all the work for your own little paradise

[waxen field]

My main problem is vrc being incredibly hyper focused on monetisation the last year

[azure reef]

Yuh huh ):

[waxen field]

With very few substantial features to the actual base game

Persistence is about it

[clear jasper]

How did you even shift the argument to how world creator monetize their world?

[waxen field]

No clue

[azure reef]

You’re joking

[waxen field]

Ok this argument has been going on an hour

It’s frickin 3 in the morning

I’m going to bed

[jagged raven]

damn imagine having the potential energy to argue for an hour

At some point I'd be grabbing the popcorn n munch on that shit even if I'm the one creating the drama

[azure reef]

Ill argue with you if you want ash

[clear jasper]

Of course just let them do, survive the business, the game survives. No revenue, no vrc for you.

[jagged raven]

I only take arguments like average movie scenes, a
Either in the bedroom or in the kitchen in which I can stab your e-character and start my villain arc.

[azure reef]

Thats not very nice

[waxen field]

Vrc needs profits yes. But all they have been focusing on is profits for the last year

[jagged raven]

that's how villains are born...on a moonless night- I'm outta here

[azure reef]

Its a free game that doesn’t require any money to play

[worthy jacinth]

vrc isn't profitable rn. it's held up by investors

[void pulsar]

That's what business do.

[waxen field]

That doesn’t Exempt it from expectations of basic ethics

[azure reef]

Not to mention they added age verification not to long ago so even more mon mon

Go to bed already

[waxen field]

Which is exclusive to vrc+ hence monetisation

[azure reef]

Stop stalling and go to bed

[worthy jacinth]

it's unethical to lock printing virtual pictures behind a paywall

[azure reef]

Locking you behind vrc+ rn

[fluid bane]

next thing they're gonna make us buy virtual printer ink to refresh our print allowance 😔

wouldn't it be crazy if for every monetisation feature there were like 10+ updates to the base game in the form of bug fixes and various improvements to stability, performance, and QoL

damn

not in a million years

[clear jasper]

Why would anyone add someone randomly?

You can chat right here.

Not sure that's a joke, if it was, I'd rate 1/10.

[terse obsidian]

Hello I’m looking for someone who is decent at making worlds its a very simple world that I’m needing to be made and I’m hoping the price won’t be too high

[azure reef]

A low life is here

That’s awesome

[brave raft]

imagine getting botted

[clear jasper]

Good riddle.

[azure reef]

Are you botted p

[mint niche]

[brave raft]

botted up

[fluid bane]

who up bottin they chats rn

[void pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-air-fresh-air-breath-of-fresh-air-smog-gif-24193063

I need more salt free air

[fluid bane]

I prefer my air salty sorry

[jagged raven]

I don't eat/breathe/drink air sorry

Can't tell if I put enough salt😔

[coral sundial]

Beware of scammers they scan this server looking for comments like those.

[coral sundial]

Low Life, High Tech

[silent harbor]

So suddenly all video players just keep failing to load the videos for me, is there anything I can do to fix this? I've uninstalled and reinstalled the game so far

[keen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-seagulls-gif-26846003

[lucid wave]

YouTube Videos specifically I assume?

[silent harbor]

No everything

Popcorn palace link

[tribal snow]

maybe region block

[silent harbor]

It was working fine yesterday

[tribal snow]

oh

[silent harbor]

Yeah

[coral sundial]

Make a #1138891887374237706 post and add your logs in there?

[silent harbor]

Logs?

I'm on quest standalone as well, I've seen people have problems on pcvr but

[coral sundial]

Oh, I'm unsure how to get the logs from Quest as I don't own one myself.

[sage relic]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290

[worthy patio]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-idc-idk-%26-idgaf-he-was-very-rude-mcdonald's-smile-gif-17167583645994393995

[coral sundial]

@worthy patio We don't allow LFG posts here due to potential scammers. Sorry.

Checkout #1204490664637890580 maybe you'll find something there though.

[silent harbor]

Am I just screwed? 🥲

[coral sundial]

Omg it's Sheru!

[void pulsar]

I'm still stunned that video players is a thing on VRChat mobile.

[coral sundial]

I'm stunned that people would wanna play VRChat on mobile...

[void pulsar]

[worthy patio]

you single?

[coral sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lol-slam-table-anime-cute-gif-17848238

[worthy patio]

whats so funny

https://tenor.com/view/belle-beuty-and-the-beast-disney-disney-princess-eyebrow-raise-gif-7322904

[coral sundial]

Your question, is funny to me. Considering I have my boyfriends user literally on my profile.

[worthy patio]

open relationship?

love triangle?

[void pulsar]

[worthy patio]

truly open to anythign

[clear jasper]

Attack helicopter then.

[coral sundial]

This isn't a dating server.

[worthy patio]

we could always take this to dms yk

[tribal snow]

lol

[clear jasper]

Hammer time?

[tribal snow]

ban them!

[coral sundial]

I recently watched Dead Mount Death Play, and I'm kinda sad that there's no season 3. I really hope that they're waiting for the manga to finish.

[patent stratus]

mods get this guy out of here

[worthy patio]

plz no

[coral sundial]

I hate cliffhangers. 😭

[tribal snow]

they got season 2???

[nocturne charm]

does anyone know why clicking the trigger on my index knuckles now opens the steam menu and why I cant seem to fix it?

[coral sundial]

Yeah the original 12 episodes and another 12 as a season 2. It's labeled as Part 2 though.

[tribal snow]

hmm, seems need to watch it then

[worthy patio]

can anyone commission a avatar ffor me

need something very specific

[clear jasper]

Incoming scammer flock.

[tribal snow]

fr

[tribal snow]

nice, u just triggered scam event

[fair lark]

Fe more hours and income home to my new cpu

[jagged raven]

Incoming broke lock

[nocturne charm]

Im using the default vrchat bindings can someone at least tell me where to ask about this?

[fair lark]

No more 100% cpu usage under vrchat

[tribal snow]

Pea typing something naughty 👀

[brave raft]

Hey ho I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services.

Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules.

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders in #1204490664637890580 and follow their protocols strictly
Only interact with people that have a verified role for what they are offering. DO NOT INTERACT WITH MISSING ROLES.

It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.)
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities.

[fair lark]

Ok princess

😭

[tribal snow]

👀

[tribal snow]

also, prices for good avis 100$+

[coral sundial]

Wrong person.

[tribal snow]

oh, my bad

[tribal snow]

100+ and im all urs

[fair lark]

"let me try vr if I don't like it I can sell the headset"
1 week later: looking at avis and fbt 😭

Rip my money lmao

[twilit copper]

=))

[coral sundial]

@fair lark
5 weeks later: thinking about your new fursuit order.

[tribal snow]

buy bigscreen beyond vr 2

[fair lark]

Nah 💀

[tribal snow]

daaamn

6 weeks later: become vtuber

[coral sundial]

Nah 2 months.

[fair lark]

7 weeks later start vr OF

😭

[spark minnow]

Whatever coke you guys r on

[coral sundial]

Also I'm doing private stream to friends only recently. @tribal snow uwu

(Because we're watching a movie and I don't wanna get destroyed lol.)

[coral sundial]

Not the brown kind.

[fair lark]

What movie y'all watching

[spark minnow]

Yawppp me too twin yawpp yawpp

[tribal snow]

😳 👍 i just created twitch and done some test stream for movie tmr xD

[tribal snow]

lets see how well u ll go

[coral sundial]

Battle Royale (2000)

Surprisingly it was a little annoying to get a copy of it with the original audio.

[keen kernel]

Juat saw the strasz patch note video. So many comments complaining that they demand these to be free features xD

Isn't that the point of vrc+ to add value, well here it is

[tribal snow]

exactly

[fair lark]

Me when I wanna watch older movies

[tribal snow]

plans on hitting aimed revenue with these features

[coral sundial]

People will riot about my suggestion.

[keen kernel]

That is?

[tribal snow]

what u ve done?

[coral sundial]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/groups-more-advanced-features-for-groups-as-a-subscription-for-group-owners

[tribal snow]

damn, on paper it looks as good as bad

[fair lark]

Does vr chat and vr prefer amd or Nvidia or it doesn't care?

[jagged raven]

Go to sleep

[coral sundial]

What do you mean?

[tribal snow]

nvidea overall got better performance for vr

[tribal snow]

camplains 100%, but for groups thats good idea

[keen kernel]

To be fair this seems like a good request. But a vrc+ feature I'm not sure

[fair lark]

Yeah bc I remember with like GTA v
It loved Nvidia, u could have a more powerful amd GPU and Nvidia would've had more fps and better frametime

😭😭

[tribal snow]

nowadays they getting closer and closer, but nvidea still ahead

so ill recommend to buy nvidea if u wealthy

[fair lark]

Like I'm on 1070ti performance but I bet a 1070 will outperform me in vr

[sullen stump]

also amds driver support for vr can be a bit iffy

[keen kernel]

Nvidia for gaming, amd for working. This is the way

[fair lark]

I only hate one thing about Nvidia

[coral sundial]

It would have to be a subscription separate from VRC+.

[fair lark]

Never enough vram 😭

[tribal snow]

just buy 4090

[keen kernel]

Ohhhhhhh!

[void pulsar]

AMD can be a pain in very specific situations.
But in general... especially with the recent drivers they are way less off a headache then 3 to 4 years ago.

[fair lark]

Nah too much for vr chat and WaRtHuNdEr

[tribal snow]

F

[fair lark]

What would y'all recommend tho

3070?

[clear jasper]

5090

[tribal snow]

everything i ll recommend too much for u xD

[keen kernel]

Computers age sadly and so does gpu's. I suggest saving money on either upgrades or buying a new pc as nvidia is slowly saying goodbye to the gtx series

[tribal snow]

but prob rn longest lifers ll be 4070 ti and 3080

[fair lark]

I was on x79 for 7 years

😭

[keen kernel]

I'm dumb.. What's x79?

[fair lark]

Lga 2011

[keen kernel]

2080ti user here xD lemme see how long i have left haha

[tribal snow]

one day ur pc ll just walk from ur home on its feets xD

[keen kernel]

This dm was sponsored by war thunder, more from them in a bit!

[fair lark]

Lmao

[keen kernel]

Still pissed i have this gpu, i got it 1 month before the rtx 30 series got released. But my old computer died so i could not afford to be without a pc for a whole month

[fair lark]

My first vr experience was war thunder

[silent harbor]

So it's my WiFi that's causing problems, so I assume ime just screwed?

[keen kernel]

Hold up.. This game got vr support??!

[fair lark]

I bought x79 2 weeks before Ryzen 1600 I was happy lmao

[tribal snow]

noooo

[fair lark]

Yes bro it's nice

[clear jasper]

Your neighbor's stealing your wifi.

[keen kernel]

Glad you where happy xD

[tribal snow]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/571890/Shapelab/

cools staff for 3d modellers

in vr!

[keen kernel]

Noice

[fluid bane]

I wonder if it's better than Substance 3D Modeler

[tribal snow]

u can test it

one my friend started using shapelab and he likes it

easy to use, easy to get started and got good quality + optimization

[mint niche]

Or Zbrush… tbh nothing is better than zbrush

[fluid bane]

zbrush isn't in vr

very different scope

[mint niche]

Enscape for sketchup and Rhino allows viewing in vr

[fluid bane]

viewing is not sculpting

[fair lark]

I was beating Ryzen
CPU, Mobo, ram, cooler was the price of a 1600x lmao

[mint niche]

Never heard of vr sculpting before, but it looks neat judging by the trailers

[fluid bane]

right, well this software and Substance 3D Modeler are for sculpting in VR. very different from zbrush

[mint niche]

Nobody be using blender for sculpting, right?

[tribal snow]

Lots do on yt

[mint niche]

Its not practical

[tribal snow]

Mostly non pro sculptors going to blender from zbrush (it just sells better )

[tribal snow]

Tell this to follygon and naydenov

[mint niche]

Free is cheaper than 400$ a year :p

[tribal snow]

Courses also sells better

[mint niche]

Zbrush has courses too

[tribal snow]

Compare total sales in 1 year from same creator

[mint niche]

Yes we’re fighting over modeling software now

[tribal snow]

Naydonov got 3x sales just from it

Nah uh, zbrush better 😂

[mint niche]

It depends of the ease of use, better apps are user friendly

[mint niche]

Cant believe you just searched it jn

[tribal snow]

That's why course makers like blender

[tribal snow]

Nah, I just hate blender sculpt

[mint niche]

Blender is called like that for a reason.. its not organized

[tribal snow]

Dynamesh my beloved

[mint niche]

Adaptable Dynamech, 10 million polygons without stuttering, zbrush works on magic

[tribal snow]

Exactly

[knotty helm]

can i ask you guys something

[fluid bane]

it's pretty good actually, at least in new versions of Blender

[tribal snow]

Hmm

[knotty helm]

ill just ask anyways

[fluid bane]

also re: courses, of course (ha) courses for a free software sell better than one that costs money. cost of entry is infinitely more accessible

[knotty helm]

||can someone like, help put together an avatar for me? like ill give you all the files, put it all together for me (textures r bugged, animations arent work, and other stuff and i need that fixed), then you just send me over the unity file then ill upload it myself.||

[fluid bane]

it's not really an indicator of anything other than accessibility

[fluid bane]

where did you get this avatar from

[knotty helm]

im trying to restore an old avatar of mine, i cant remember exactly.

[tribal snow]

Kitsu

[knotty helm]

my avatar is giving an error however, i dont have the thing installed anymore for the actual unity save, but i do have all the files back, it took me a good while to do so but i did. loaded it in, and theres... issues

the old avatar

is giving an error, its been doing that

i miss the avatar

so ive been trying my best to put in the effort to restore it and make a new avatar (the same avatar but technically a different one)

[fluid bane]

you should prolly just look through your purchases to find the actual original to restore

[knotty helm]

i can get the original model, but the textures the clothes, those stuff, TOO MUCH WORK!!

[subtle ferry]

gm

[mint niche]

You’re quite the texter

[knotty helm]

and the tutorials on youtube to put it together are mostly now privated, so i mostly have to figure the stuff out myself

again

how i did it last time? i have no idea, just got lucky ig.. i cant just do it again

so could someone.. possibly just put it together for me?

[keen kernel]

If you done it before you can do it again, if the og videos are privated then seek new updated ones

If not dare i say, go to trusted sites to ask for a commission. Here is a horrible place to request that

A lot of scammers here

[sinful lion]

[knotty helm]

the funny thing is... there isnt new ones

[knotty helm]

i dont have money

[subtle ferry]

33 degrees this morning over here

[tribal snow]

Then better get help in "help" topics

[flat bough]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-thousand-yard-stare-meme-gif-16183232774703649340

[fluid bane]

then you're not gonna get a random stranger to do something that might take multiple hours for you

[knotty helm]

people will ignore me there

[subtle ferry]

khm hm.... for democracy(for democracy)

[fluid bane]

they'll ignore you if you ask people to do stuff for you, not if you ask how to do stuff

[keen kernel]

I don't believe that

[knotty helm]

even if someone explains it to me it will go in one ear, then come right out the other

[knotty helm]

ive looked I LOOKED LIKE REALLY REALLY MUCH, there isnt any new ones

[fluid bane]

well suit yourself then ig

[flat bough]

Always

[sinful lion]

21.2c hereee

[keen kernel]

As stated before, want help: ask the places where people provide this help
all will ask a commission fee. Discord is for chatting not commissions

[knotty helm]

they will ignore me there

well technically i do have money just depends on how much i have to spend

[keen kernel]

Well if you request for free no duh

[subtle ferry]

[true flame]

Guys I'm back from the dead

[fresh wren]

My sleep schedule is borked.

[knotty helm]

but like it will take a lot longer to get a response, and its very very easier to get ignored there, people come there to ask for help for problems.. theres not much of people that are there to solve, usually.

[subtle ferry]

where that may be? (obviously don't have to answer)

[sinful lion]

southern canada, right near da border. as close to the US as I can get while living a city life

[keen kernel]

How was it?

[subtle ferry]

sweet, dope

[true flame]

Oops nearly died again
It was good
Met some people

[subtle ferry]

Democracy, inspired by the way they're jumping see
no sense of rhythm
not by the way they think

[sinful lion]

I wanna visit Niagara Falls n walk to the US side c:

[subtle ferry]

I remember I went for winter gaurd once(band) and remember you guys already had weed legalized

blew my mind a little bit... all I had to do was go to the Canadian side

2004

I think

[sinful lion]

its nice here c;

[subtle ferry]

played some of the worst guitar in my life but here we are..

[sinful lion]

I need a new violin

[true flame]

I wish I had one

[subtle ferry]

~get electric,

id Alternatively say who cares about classical acoustics

[sinful lion]

[subtle ferry]

I feel like the guitar timeline told me to tell you that...

[sinful lion]

have a dentist appointment today aaaa

once I get extra monies I can buy those extra thingies

[lean needle]

man i love the vrc update that helps content creator locked behind vrc+ like i get the cosmetics and prints but why the camera dolly?

[subtle ferry]

hokey dey

[olive bramble]

I see a swirly i must pat

[sinful lion]

[cedar holly]

[subtle ferry]

just dropped my 2nd 4 song ai album.. @zealous nacelle lul

7am bully

[drifting delta]

Goobers hello

[subtle ferry]

... I didn't expect so much awkward silence ... oh! hello!

[drifting delta]

👋 I am without my green but I wave the same

[light marsh]

Is music players broken for anyone else?

[fresh wren]

#1138891887374237706

[subtle ferry]

soon to be myself

[zealous nacelle]

you got albums?????????

[subtle ferry]

yeah... on spotify.... my first album isn't going anywhere tho

in my profile

[flat bough]

Balls

[frigid moat]

https://tenor.com/view/104-gif-20319157

Hello everyone.

[tribal snow]

[autumn stirrup]

meow

[fluid bane]

meow

[tribal snow]

woof

[frigid moat]

Moo.

[next scaffold]

when i was traving around irealnd someone put holy water on my cheeks and it stared to burn

[steel granite]

I woulda bought her but I got no coins so there’s no point

[tired scroll]

[fresh wren]

[flat bough]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-thousand-yard-stare-meme-gif-16183232774703649340

Balls

[twin cradle]

dude im traumatized

[fresh wren]

Me too.

[twin cradle]

i just saw some random naked black dude

[flat bough]

Lucky

[keen kernel]

Wow that's very random

[twin cradle]

Wat

[autumn stirrup]

report the avatar then...

[flat bough]

Mhm

[twin cradle]

i'm new how do i do that 😭

[grand lantern]

Greetings, is there a place to discuss about FBT, or can I just ask my question here regarding them?

[tribal snow]

im playing for months and have no idea how xD

[twin cradle]

lol

[twin cradle]

Greetings huzz

[grand lantern]

I'm a man.

[twin cradle]

Greetings bruzz

[fresh wren]

#full-body-tracking?

[grand lantern]

Tanks.

[twin cradle]

[dense pike]

World of Thanks

[sinful lion]

[cursive epoch]

Cheese

[olive bramble]

[fresh wren]

I want some cheese.

[proven meteor]

Wdym by that exactly

[wild rover]

I figured it out

I think gonna test more today

[keen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-gif-25732604

[autumn stirrup]

meow

[void pulsar]

https://tastecooking.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/MHT4222.jpg

[dense pike]

Bortus : 500 cheese wheels

[void pulsar]

more? okay..
https://cdn.thenewsroom.io/platform/story_media/1288820989/1251767158.jpg

[flat bough]

Give me smoked gouda

[void pulsar]

☁️ ☁️ 🧀 ☁️ ☁️

[true flame]

Yipee
I just got bullied by someone I thought I was close friends with

Yayy I'm so happy

[subtle ferry]

"well at least you guys got it off your chest"

[true flame]

Why is it in quotation marks 😭

[cursive epoch]

Why is he painting the cheese, what did it do?

I’m not funny

I’m gonna sleep again

[subtle ferry]

because that's your objective in a form of forgiveness, and if dude man fails their half again, given you've laid out what's happening, and maybe a bit of your tolerance and humility, if dude man can't help himself, just remind things could be better... or just move on.......

[true flame]

Oh

Ok

Never knew I'd grow a fear of making friends...

[next scaffold]

hello

[true flame]

Your pfp scared me 😭
Someone I know has that pfp

[next scaffold]

who? I'm gonna fight them

[true flame]

They're my 7 year old cousin😭

[subtle ferry]

🤣

[next scaffold]

why are they on the internet???

[uncut comet]

We placing bets on who wins? Jk

[true flame]

I have no idea

[true flame]

Lmao

[next scaffold]

*sideflips *

[subtle ferry]

73,000$ on the kid

[subtle ferry]

somebody hates kids

[next scaffold]

I do

[subtle ferry]

speaking of kids, to make your day worse, I literally have a Dino like that as a kids shitter stool.

[subtle ferry]

is it from anything?

[next scaffold]

there is a reason why discord tos says 13+
vrchat says 13+, youtube.com says 13+

[subtle ferry]

alright... just, ya know, don't go groom anybody ya know lol

[next scaffold]

i know how that feels /trauma

[subtle ferry]

mm..

[next scaffold]

DID YOU KNOW that the color orange was named after the fruit which was named after the tree

[subtle ferry]

yeah.. but most words are made up from a feeling... like I'm assuming ang~ is the heat of the sun or which ever transitive relationship it has with radiation.

[next scaffold]

enchiladas >>>> burritos

[subtle ferry]

I mean.

[next scaffold]

I will die on this hill

[subtle ferry]

I think they're better too relax

[next scaffold]

hmm now I'm hungry

[shut sundial]

[next scaffold]

what's your favorite food? GO

[void pulsar]

[grand lantern]

Rocks.

[next scaffold]

yummy

[grand lantern]

Or Tiramisu.

[next scaffold]

also good

[flat bough]

I don't hate kids, but I do avoide em

[shut sundial]

[next scaffold]

what's your favorite food?

[shut sundial]

paimon

[void pulsar]

[flat bough]

Smashburgers

[next scaffold]

never heard of that before

[shut sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/paimon-ehe-paimon-genshin-impact-gif-25099123

[next scaffold]

looks like a child

[grand lantern]

They are saying they enjoy the taste of fresh newborns.

[next scaffold]

never can go wrong with burgers

[grand lantern]

Relatable tbh.

[shut sundial]

[flat bough]

You two dont get the joke

[grand lantern]

I do.

[shut sundial]

yeah they didn't, oh well.

[grand lantern]

But I just wanted to play along with him.

[next scaffold]

so she either a canablism or I need to call the fbi

[flat bough]

No, the joke is Paimon literally got called emergency food in the game

[void pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-stickfigure-not-affected-gif-14391548

[steel granite]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-omniman-invincible-meme-gif-14970603868221209304

[next scaffold]

this is cyberbulling

[steel granite]

Are you sure?

[flat bough]

https://tenor.com/view/pretty-sure-mark-grayson-maybe-yes-invincible-gif-20907699

[shut sundial]

invincible memes are funny

[next scaffold]

never seen it

[shut sundial]

[flat bough]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-thousand-yard-stare-meme-gif-16183232774703649340

[steel granite]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-gif-1158255077563046515

[wanton leaf]

are you sure?

[high sorrel]

Is vr chat dying ?

[fresh wren]

No?

[next scaffold]

sorry I ate the servers, I got hungry

[void pulsar]

[cursive epoch]

The rats

[next scaffold]

*explodes *

[dense crescent]

If i cancel VRC+, will my prints get deleted?

[fresh wren]

No. They'll get locked out.

Wait, no. I think you can still use them... but you can't make more of your own.

[native garden]

most prints save to your C drive

[vestal hearth]

Some old dude was just pounding on our door and woke both me and my gf up but we ain’t answering lmao

It’s 9am and I don’t know him so noooo thank you

[dense crescent]

Should i download all of them to my C drive incase they do get deleted?

Or is that not necessary?

[sinful lion]

[vestal hearth]

Aren’t the prints just made from the pics you can save to your profile?

[native garden]

i think they go there automatically unless you were like grabing memes or what ever.

[abstract dirge]

steam updated vrchat, and now the game is not launching, even after reinstalling the game

xd

[native garden]

Servers are down for unity and log in for me rn. idk what's going on I just assumed i made unity angry at first 🤣

[abstract dirge]

its not going past the EAC starting game screen KEKW

its been doing this for like 15 minutes

[void pulsar]

I need to see cherry blossoms

So my brain can heal

[tiny reef]

What is it damaged from

[native garden]

servers seem to work again fine for me idk if it was only a few people or not. not many reports on down detector.

[abstract dirge]

i wouldnt know as the game doesnt even start xD

oh i fixed

guess eac borked

cus it legit didnt continue further as starting game for 20minutes

[elder ermine]

It be like that

[abstract dirge]

normally wouldnt it throw an error if it couldnt load

mine was like nah fam am loading the game trust

[void pulsar]

Work...

Also.. Not MelonBread spotted

https://tenor.com/view/melon-pan-gif-5611906

Might buy one omw home

[latent mango]

I bought a giant melonpan in a supermarket before my flight home and still had half of it to share with family later xD

[glacial blaze]

I can't believe it

Twitter actually got what they wanted

in the Nintendo direct

[next scaffold]

what did they want?

[glacial blaze]

||new Tomodachi Life and new Rhythm Heaven||

[lost patio]

There's a labor shortage in Tamagotchi Plaza

That's an out of context quote from my sister Fynn, who saw the direct.

[next scaffold]

I get what your saying
doesn't get what you saying

[cursive epoch]

Tamadachi?

I’m gonna explode in excitement

[woeful topaz]

[fair lark]

CPU is here and booted

Vr chat time

[next scaffold]

YIPPIE!

[void pulsar]

Healed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351232207280275486/1354831979148742836/20250327_154957668.jpg?ex=67e6b91b&is=67e5679b&hm=6ed99e7efbfd0ac7fab249788eb74c9ffdc84edda4537a282e4fd5817b612fec&

[plush mist]

aughhhhh chat i hate wake up time

[lost mauve]

same

why cant there just be a skip button

i wanna skip the day but not actually skip work so i dont get in trouble

[olive bramble]

can I just hire an ai to take over my daily tasks and lets me back in when I get to do nothing

[void pulsar]

Okay, time for melonpan

[sinful lion]

dentist soon

[fair lark]

mfw vrchat uses 100% of 8c and 16 treads

[fickle thicket]

It's necessary for all the jiggle bones on everyone else's avatar

[fluid bane]

don't ever let anyone tell you vrchat isn't multithreaded

[void pulsar]

Only had that once... And it was when I found out my cpu was dying

[mint niche]

The nostalgia

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340445309062615123/1351629346632372377/a6.gif

[thick wedge]

VRC still wont start for me... even in desktop. the hell is going on? it happened last week too once.