android-discussion

[thick prairie]

but there’s also potential that it’ll at least be usable with 5gb ram instead of 6 or something like that

[molten furnace]

No one gonna try to run vrc on a phone barely scrapping up 6 gbs of ram lol

[grim lotus]

There's further performance efforts in place, but for the moment 6GB is already cutting it close

[thick prairie]

fair enough

[grim lotus]

That's what the Quest 2 has, and it doesn't have to run a whole phone at the same time

[thick prairie]

I wouldn’t say no one

[icy knot]

We wanna try, not necessarily do it successfully. :3

[lapis briar]

It'd certainly be neat to see it running on even lower end devices

[grim lotus]

I'm of the opinion it should run on your school calculator, but what's achievable is yet to be seen

[thick prairie]

I’d imagine it’d be possible to at least run some worlds (like that 1kb mirror world) w/ all fallbacks on lower end phones, even if not all worlds work

[thin dome]

My phone isn't even old, I just got it a few months ago

[orchid owl]

I can't join another world except home world when ever i try joining McDonald's the app crashes on me.

[crude temple]

Microwave, take it or leave it

[grim lotus]

Worth a shot! But I still have a Quest 1 and it can't load e.g. Drink Night without going OOM, last I tried

[crude temple]

Sorry, I meant to say lower spec

[thick prairie]

but yeah I understand the limitations. If people are already having performance and crashing issues, probably not the best idea to lower the requirements just yet ^^'

[frozen plank]

How is ya'll experience with this?
https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-alpha/p/1335-microphone-is-stuttering

I've got multiple people tell me, and experienced it from sip my self.
Wonder what the issue may be

[thick prairie]

7 segment display alarm clock?

[orchid owl]

I don't know i can't join McDonald's to find out

[orchid owl]

It should be able to run on the grandfather clock

[thick prairie]

what about the sky

[vale edge]

I haven't had anyone say anything to me yet. But I haven't encountered anyone on mobile to hear for myself

[orchid owl]

Sky is the limit

[thick prairie]

fair. it’d have to be really optimized to run on ImaginationOS, not to be confused with iOS

[frozen plank]

Feel free to add / join me if you wanna check

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/clock-watching-ticking-time-is-ticking-time-is-now-gif-5381916

For anyone wondering

Thats a grandfather clock

[slate loom]

dropping in some useful links here

VRChat Mobile: System Requirements
VRChat Mobile: Controls
VRChat Mobile: General Troubleshooting
VRChat Mobile: How do I access my Output Logs?

[dense notch]

I already see an issue, you should bury a setting for those with highend smartphones to be able to see verypoor avis if they do desire to do so. Including a quick warning window that ure not responsible. Phones can be more powerful than the quest2 and since it doesnt need to handle vr some resources are free.

[hybrid tendon]

I am experiencing this too, i was visiting my friend and he means the mic stutters strong

[slate loom]

I've also noticed mic stutters myself, I know we're aware at least but I'm not sure if there are other stutters as well

[crude temple]

3

[hybrid tendon]

I thought i need to speak more louder than normal voice volume

[frozen plank]

Yeah other stuff mostly fine.
Maybe just rarely general mini audio lag / stutter but the mic it self from me pretty much continously

[midnight widget]

I have a pixel 7 pro and it says it isnt compatible with it

could it be because I have google services in a jail on grapheneOS?

[hybrid tendon]

How to control the gestures?

[raw smelt]

Don’t think you can

[mighty meteor]

another person with a 7 pro had this issue

interesting, plenty of ram haha

[midnight widget]

My V60 is compatible

that phone is almost 1:1 with the pixel 7 pro

and is 3 years older

[molten furnace]

There's nothing stopping us from rooting a older phone to play vrc

[midnight widget]

I nneed to get me a vrc+ sub for this lol

will the android client allow for any kind of videocasting?

like being able to stream live camera footage to VR?

[mighty meteor]

I'm confused what you're asking for tbh

[midnight widget]

which may be good for kiosks at events or people wanting to stream something they're doing to VR friends from RL

[icy knot]

Someone else and I were able to install it using Aurora. Juggling my password manager, TOTP 2FA app and VRC on a 4GB phone was kinda hell tho, took like 20 minutes of trying to sign in lol

[unkempt otter]

My Bluetooth keeps on breaking is this normal?

[hybrid tendon]

Me too, if Bluetooth headphones, no Sound until restart

[molten furnace]

What the hell?

[unkempt otter]

Yeah same

Anytime Iag a bit (from someone joining or smth)

I get no sound or anything

[mighty meteor]

I installed it but not letting me join worlds, I see them for a split second then I get the integrity check error

[unkempt otter]

It also counts as a call??

[slate loom]

We're aware of some issues with Bluetooth audio right now

[unkempt otter]

Understood ❤️

[molten furnace]

So you can't play in the starting world?

[mighty meteor]

nope

[molten furnace]

We gotta figure this out

Cuz unlike ios

Or iPhone in general

If something isn't supported we can bullshit our way to using it

[green kraken]

I'd definitely like to know how to make that work, for some reason the store says a Samsung S22 isn't supported

[gusty talon]

I have the pixel 7 pro and it works for me

[hexed iris]

One of a few glitches I've encountered on my time on VRChat mobile is that there are times where no other players show on my end, only new players joining in are visible, and even then they too completely disappear when you rejoin the world. And sometimes the audio is completely cut out and requires a force close to fix these problems.

Other than that, the game is working decently for an alpha build.

[frozen plank]

My idea for gestures.
https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-alpha/p/add-leftright-hand-gesture-buttons-to-ui

[latent radish]

how to fix this?

[frozen plank]

restart app

Your wifi may be instable.

[latent radish]

it says no valid integrity token received

[midnight widget]

one more reason I hate this phone.

[dense notch]

I just hope this gets adressed.

[frozen plank]

Did you restart the app?
As in go to home screem, open the view that shows all apps, and then swipe the vrchat one out of the menu to truely close it?

And try going next to your wifi router the next time you start it.
You need a stable connection

[latent radish]

yeah, did it many times, still failled, but I do have terrible connection problem

[livid shale]

Here's a suggestion : for games that have a scroll bar on the side, give the ability to have a button that locks camera turning, so that we could scroll without looking up and down lol

Well, suggestion

[livid shale]

Or have that button all the time

[proud creek]

Ive noticed this with other people that own Pixel 7 Pros, I have a regular Pixel 7 and it installs without complaining

[dim chasm]

Welp, I can't join on mobile anymore, after having no issues at first

[proper relic]

yeah same

[torpid quest]

Was able to login, and visit both default home, and one of my own uploaded worlds. Trying to visit an invite only instance of Luminous Ledge or FYNN's room both failed with a 'could not validate integrity check' after a rather long black screen a load, and then it booting me back to login after the error.
Also my friends list is empty (as though I have no friends), though I can see a group instance active.

[hybrid tendon]

Well, at least I'm not the only one having this issue

[proper relic]

I was actually about to send the same thing as Dorktoast, I can't use the app anymore

[hybrid tendon]

Same. Can't even load into my default home

[livid shale]

I'm able to play fine

[median isle]

yea not working for me either

[proper relic]

I was on earlier which tells me something must've broke

[livid shale]

Nevermind it ain't working

[proper relic]

cuz I have VRC+ and everything required for this

[torpid quest]

Ah well, Alpha is an alpha. Still pretty neat to see it working at all.

[spiral prairie]

It was working for me earlier but isn't now. My guess is it is a server problem.

[torpid quest]

Successfully managed to get this screenshot and see what my world looked like for Quest users myself for the first time.

[proper relic]

oh btw, does anyone know how to open expression wheel or use gestures? cuz I have an avatar I want to customize and need the wheel for that

[torpid quest]

Not worked that out yet

[proper relic]

aw heck

good to know tho

[naive yarrow]

Hold on the button that you use the main menu for

[quasi field]

Question, is anyone having the issue that they can't join any world. It just said no valid integrity token and logs me out

[livid shale]

What is that world?

[proper relic]

seems everyone is

[quasi field]

Oh okie

[hybrid tendon]

Yyyep

[quasi field]

Good to know xD

[torpid quest]

Countdown VR. Gameshow and working TV Studio recreation I co-dev'd with a friend.

[visual frigate]

also having integrity token error 😢

[hybrid tendon]

My theory is the avatar you last wore in the other platforms breaking something (Basically the avatar you wore when you were on quest or PC)

[manic sonnet]

I’m having this issue as well

[hybrid tendon]

But token errors might mean something entirely different

[torpid quest]

(you can't access the control booth in quest, that area is PC only)

[dim chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-play-this-game-with-integrity-i-give-it-my-all-morals-values-frank-ready-gif-16002114

[proper relic]

oh, my partner has a 7 pro so rip him if he decides to mess with this

[bright dove]

Same. I'm guessing regional servers maybe? I didn't see any info on if this is public servers or beta

[rapid wing]

Welp

[naive yarrow]

Yeah I was running fine, then error

[livid shale]

Oh that seems cool, I wish I can make content but

1. I don't have FBT
2. I have no idea what type of content to make
3. I need an editor which I cannot afford lol
   Ik your world isn't content making related, but it feels like that world could be used for making "game shows" on tiktok lol

[hybrid tendon]

Since everyone is posing screenshots. Here's mine!!!

[torpid quest]

Hopefully this is a server side thing given its hitting so many people. Has anyone else had empty friends list?

[scenic rampart]

im getting hit by that too lol

sounds like an auth server outage or w/e

[proper relic]

me and my long screen

[rapid wing]

Ok so it's a server issue

[quasi field]

Yep just rebooted usually fixed it friend list thing

[torpid quest]

FBT is not required to make content.

[hybrid tendon]

Is anyone testing to see if it's an issue with the android build only, and not because as a whole?

[gusty talon]

pixel 7 pro here and it works flawlessly well... as the beta allows it XD , also works on my pixel 6a

[livid shale]

I know but it's ideal

[pearl mulch]

glad you're able to test that now

[scenic rampart]

My ray tracing world kills my tablet due to its resolution

[torpid quest]

Also most all the tools I use are free or have free alternatives. Costs nothing to start making stuff on VRC except time to learn. <3

[proper relic]

am a 6a user as well, I just only have issues loading Furality Aqua lobby (it's so poorly optimized)

[manic sonnet]

I have the Pixel 7 Pro and it works great. Aside from the ongoing issue.

[livid shale]

Ah- could we perhaps discuss more on this in dms? If you want to of course

[torpid quest]

I built stuff for almost a year without it. You don't need it. :P anyway, I want to go sleep and this is also off topic.

[proper relic]

nice Splatoon music

[torpid quest]

Send a message, but I must sleep now

[scenic rampart]

thanks lol it's my little graphics programming sketchbook world

[manic sonnet]

Could be. It seems a lot of others are having issues as well. It was fine earlier.

[scenic rampart]

Pixel 6 Pro and Galaxy Tab S6+ here, works great on both

[gusty talon]

🤷‍♂️

[hybrid tendon]

Me when I'm having a hard time playing VRC on a $200 phone instead of my $1200 PC setup

[proper relic]

I'll have my partner check to see if he can install it on his 7 pro later, but he won't be able to do anything with it cuz he doesn't have VRC+, unless I let him borrow my account

[scenic rampart]

Even some particular elaborate shader worlds work fine.

[bright dove]

What region?

[gaunt lantern]

Xperia 1 IV user here, unity standard shaders (not mobile or lite) seem to not work

[proper relic]

I need to find a world with a video player and see how well it works for me

[pearl mulch]

Cool

[scenic rampart]

region? North American if that's what you mean. Pixel 6 Pro is unlocked(no contract with verizon or AT&T or w/e)

[proper relic]

my home world has one in PC version but it seems to not be a thing on quest build

[gloomy grotto]

I agree with this. Some phones, like anything in the flagship range, can run VRC pretty smoothly with no problems. As much as I understand the need to make cutbacks for performance, I don't think that removing the ability to use Very Poor avatars is a good idea.
For instance, my Galaxy S22 Ultra can run VRChat, using my Very Poor Arflin, at 60 FPS with no issues.

[hybrid tendon]

Considering it's based on the quest build, I think it would work fine

[bright dove]

East or West?

[scenic rampart]

west... lol not sure why you need that info

[proper relic]

I'm central

[pearl mulch]

well they're not hot pink solid colors so I would say that's working some what could you describe what's not working correctly

[bright dove]

Because that means east cost servers are SOL right now xP

[gaunt lantern]

it's solid black when it shouldn't be

[bright dove]

Nido is in the UK, you're west coast, I bet the others having issues are also east coast like me

[scenic rampart]

im facing the auth issue too right now. Im getting this. The vids i posted are from earlier today

[bright dove]

Ah, welp nevermind haha

[naive yarrow]

ls media seemed to work with the music, urls no, idk about the video though

[hybrid tendon]

Yeb I'm east coast

[naive yarrow]

east coast

[proper relic]

it's looking more like a worldwide issue

[scenic rampart]

Pixel 6 pro is handling raytracing like a champ

[vale edge]

Hey now I get one. Was running great. Suddenly got logged out. Uninstall, clear cache, nothing.

[dense flicker]

Server issues perhaps

[hybrid tendon]

I was testing the alpha in my pixel 7a and it was working fine (until the token issue everyone is having rn)

was fun to test it out tho

[weak flume]

Yeah just got the same thing!

[vale edge]

Server go brr ig

[zenith portal]

yep same issue

[tight monolith]

yep

[vale edge]

Well poop

I was having fun xD

[tight monolith]

same

[zenith portal]

just android or all servers?

[weak flume]

I think just Android

[dense briar]

I just got out from work and decided to download the beta just to get hit with this

[vale edge]

#vrchat-general-1 would be blowing up if it was everyone

[zenith portal]

true

[vale edge]

Alphas gotta alpha

[quiet relic]

If it's solid black you might be using an incompatible texture compression format, make sure it's not anything with dxt in its name

[weak flume]

Can't be mad I guess they're still working on it haha

[lost ore]

Same here, after that error I keep on getting logged out :(

[analog lodge]

this login issue is weird because nothing mentioned wrong at vrc status website https://status.vrchat.com/

[tight monolith]

i think what ever they have to check for vrc plus is down

[lost ore]

it's probably android specific
also this is an alpha so keep that in mind, so I totally expect stuff to be broken sometimes

(I play star citizen, so I'm used to this kind of stuff lmao)

[karmic scaffold]

Is this a problem for everyone?

The invalid integrity thing

[gaunt lantern]

interesting, it looked fine on quest the last I checked but I'll take a look

[weak flume]

Might be yeah

[hybrid tendon]

Mmm, guess it's temporarily down for Android phone platform

[lost ore]

Yes

[karmic scaffold]

I only ask because I just cleared my cache so I suspected that was the reason.

[hybrid tendon]

I also have the same issue

Maybe they are fixing something

[karmic scaffold]

If it's not because of me clearing my cache then that's fine, I can just wait it out

[lost ore]

Same
I also was able to play earlier but now I can't, so it's probably a service that isn't working

[weak flume]

A little off topic but I'm so damn glad I'm not playing this game on a normal phone (I have the Fold 4) LMAO

[gaunt lantern]

foldable vrchat goes crazy actually

[spiral cloud]

[ionic girder]

Man, I just got done checking my sub status lmao

[weak flume]

And I oop

[nimble meadow]

I's there a form for report bugs, just before the token thing my audio would cut out after a few min.

[ionic girder]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-alpha

[weak flume]

Yall mobile VRChat plus this goofy ahh controller goes crazy

[karmic scaffold]

I think the first thing they should see about ironing out is the frequent stuttering

It's very disruptive

[weak flume]

Also they need to figure out spacial audio because I can't tell where people are when they talk LMAO

[karmic scaffold]

Trying to hold a conversation while the game is constantly hitching is not easy

[karmic scaffold]

Just use headphones

[weak flume]

I haven't experienced too much stuttering myself, at least nothing noteworthy

Maybe it's just my Galaxy Buds maybe they don't work that well for this game

[hidden pilot]

what IS this mechanism

[analog lodge]

didnt have issues with my one plus puds

[severe light]

:(

[dense notch]

Even my xperia 1 iii can run vrc no issues, ill test more of my smartphone collection soon, but most highend devices can run vrc just as good or even better than the quest can, especially since its only rendering desktop grade, and not vr grade

[karmic scaffold]

Owell

[crimson flicker]

Sads

[karmic scaffold]

Phone too old lol

[severe light]

it isnt though

[proper relic]

I have Pixel Buds Pro but I haven't gone into an instance with people yet so idk how audio is outside of menu noises

[ionic girder]

Check the feedback board and post a bug report if it isn't already there

[hidden pilot]

[Alpha] (Early Access) {Deez} <Nuts> /Lmao\ |Gottem|

[severe light]

:(

[karmic scaffold]

I'm 90% sure something like what I'm describing is already on the canny

I've trolled around vrc for long enough to know that these things get reported fast

[ionic girder]

I just had a quick scroll and didn't see any performance stuttering posts except for one mentioning audio stuttering

[weak flume]

Honestly this controller is the GOAT, I highly recommend it. Especially if you have tiny hands

[karmic scaffold]

Alright I'll make a post then

[thorn forge]

Nice to see the app is actually well optimized in terms of performance

[granite shale]

😭😭😭

[lapis canopy]

same error here

[thorn forge]

server issue

[charred copper]

😔

[thorn forge]

partial us it seems

[vale edge]

Hopefully soon

[granite shale]

Ohhh. I need me a pair of braincells

[shut forum]

I was working really good and now.... This is happening.... That sucks

[ionic girder]

scroll up

[thorn forge]

loser heh jk jk @shut forum

[vale edge]

Scroll down

[supple pollen]

The app ran really well when I was using it. But man does it heat up my phone quick lmao

[thorn forge]

mine seemed alright

i have a crappy a53

[vale edge]

Heat wasn't as bad as Fortnite on my phone lol

[supple pollen]

by quick I meant like an hour

[median sorrel]

not bad, on a 3 year old device, the s20 ultra, i got 90 fps at home

[hybrid tendon]

90 FPS? How...

[median sorrel]

what does suck for me is the audio bugs, when it bugs out for too long the audio stops working and u gotta switch back bluetooth and actual audio

[shut forum]

[hybrid tendon]

I only get 60, dunno why

Though the devs have aware

[median sorrel]

samsung first introduced 120fps on that phone, its an insane device.

[hybrid tendon]

Mine also supports 120Hz

[median sorrel]

nice

[hybrid tendon]

[median sorrel]

BRUH i hope someday they add support for uh

actual quest avatars beyond 10mb LOL

[supple pollen]

I don't use the 120hz on my s21

[hybrid tendon]

60Hz on mine feels... jittery

[ionic girder]

Nah, I'm all for strict perf requirements

[median sorrel]

same after using 240hz and 165hz, 60 just feels okay

[warped wave]

Was neat playing on my zfold4. Was having a surprisingly decent experience till the current token issue.

[hybrid tendon]

Until it's fixed

[lost ore]

🙏

[full spire]

I'm getting that integrity token issue too 😦

[karmic scaffold]

I made the post, if anyone wants to either vote or just check it out.
https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-alpha/p/frequent-performance-stuttering

My writing isn't too good but I think it gets my point across

I wish I had a video to submit with it

I didn't bother recording

[ionic girder]

If you can record one later, you can add it as a comment I believe.

[karmic scaffold]

Yea

Obviously I can't right now

[obtuse cedar]

😭

[trim moth]

paitencs

they said 15-30 minutes

[livid roost]

Same problem, I do vrchat+

[cerulean shoal]

The error message is a bit vague, yeah. I guess we'll wait a bit and see what happens. Probably a lot of people interested in testing this out.

[fresh lion]

You aren't the only one

[merry edge]

Yep

I'm having it to

[indigo plinth]

seems like vrchat forget to request an increase in total requests for app traffic to google play integrity

[obtuse cedar]

I was able to log in when I first started alpha testing, but now when I try to log in I can't...

[indigo plinth]

yes they fucked up you will have to wait for a bit

[fresh lion]

same I was on sonce the alpha dropped

[indigo plinth]

it looks like they reached the limit for google play integrity api requests to verify application integrity so it will be a few hours

[obtuse cedar]

I see......
Thanks a lot for the explanation.

[indigo plinth]

by default the limit is 10K https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/11395166

[winged oak]

does anyone get an apk document

[indigo plinth]

they may have forgot to request a increase and they request a new token everytime you switch instance

[gaunt lantern]

that's kinda funny actually

[hexed iris]

Lil quick question, does a controller (wired or wireless) work for vrchat mobile?

[fresh lion]

Very

[midnight widget]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-show-you-some-tegridy-randy-marsh-south-park-tegridy-farms-its-time-for-some-tegridy-gif-19488214

[hexed iris]

I was gonna test that out myself until the token thing happened.

[lost ore]

lmaooo

they already hit the limit?? lol

[strong river]

That explains why I can't get on anymore

[indigo plinth]

seems to be the most relivant explination

[fresh lion]

Player count climbs higher than rockets man.

[lost ore]

lol yeah

[indigo plinth]

they send a new token request everytime you join an instance

[lost ore]

💀

[indigo plinth]

one person world hopping can easily reach 100 requests

[strong river]

was cool when it was working, wish I got that framerate in Quest, my laptop

[indigo plinth]

its a global limit for all players

[fresh lion]

Lmfao

[lost ore]

they're gonna have to talk to google for this lmao

"minor oversight"

[trim moth]

get better phone

[indigo plinth]

more than minor

[lost ore]

lol yeah

[indigo plinth]

"minor" ™️

[fresh lion]

Google sitting in the conference wondering how an app that has been up for 3 hours already hit the limit

[livid roost]

Before this whole thing was happening I used it it was great for my Samsung a54 5g

[fresh lion]

It's gonna hit them really differently.

[simple zenith]

The game ran at 0.1 fps once I tried joining a world with 30 people

[lost ore]

lmaoooo

[swift token]

Yep, seems like we ran out the limit faster than Google expected 😛 We'll handle it tomorrow

[indigo plinth]

Wheeze

[drowsy lava]

Can someone tell me what this means 😭

[indigo plinth]

read the message directly above yours

[fresh lion]

Welp on that note goodnight everybody.

[grand zenith]

Theres a limit? lol

[green kraken]

Is there a list of phones that the Google Play Store will allow this to be installed in?
I've tried 3 different phones and they all appear as not supported, but their specs should be way more than enough for the VRC Alpha, I'm at a loss at this point

[magic token]

Has anyone already tried using a mobile VR headset like a Samsung VR accessory or Google cardboard, or is that something coming in the future?

[fresh lion]

did you use the link in the youtube video

or did you look it up on the app store

[green kraken]

I used the link in the article!

[drowsy lava]

Ooh okay thank you

[fresh lion]

I can't stop laughing

[indigo plinth]

called it

[green kraken]

Maybe the list should be more lax about phone limits? Or at least for this testing not have a limited list at all to properly test in a wide range of phones?

[fresh lion]

Wait till tomorrow to see

[wet sorrel]

I'm running a Samsung A52. I was able to hear others clearly and see Quest avatars and fallbacks. Quest lag still exists. They could barely hear me on my mic, but FPS was down from 8 to 15 in a friends+ with about 10 people in Drinking Night

[green kraken]

Will do! Thank you!

[fresh lion]

No problem

[wet sorrel]

Thank you for the answer about the integrity token.

[indigo plinth]

can you spot me a 20 i lost a bet over this @swift token

[ancient birch]

This is wild...

[fresh lion]

I can spot 40

[indigo plinth]

[rotund night]

I just tried and got that sadly. Guess i'll just have to wait. I was like "Damn VRChat doesn't think I have integrity :("

[fresh lion]

[ancient birch]

Nah its not that

I can't use emotes outside of vrchat damn ;w;

[fresh lion]

I wanted to use a zero two derp emote to reply

[ancient birch]

I can use outside stickers!

Oh boy

[fresh lion]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-i-didnt-see-what-you-deleted-deleted-delete-discord-gif-25993865

[ancient birch]

It's just Google Play and VRChat having no communication of tokens being requesting when joining instances It being limited to 10,000 max first

[rotund night]

I know man, just making a joke ❤️

[fresh lion]

[ancient birch]

I got it, I just didn't know if you knew, my bad😔

[fresh lion]

Let me leave this chat before I laugh until I hit my grave for a second time.

[ancient birch]

😂😂😂

[azure bison]

dammit integrity be annoying

[hybrid tendon]

Thank god. I was about to ask about it the integrity token lol

I wanted to play around (like I did before) and VRChat kept sending me those messages

[azure bison]

i just downloaded it to test on train, rip my mobile data

[ancient birch]

Honestly I wouldn't query about it rn

[hybrid tendon]

I wish the crouch and crawl was always popped out instead of having to hold jump every time lol
Just a toggle would be nice

[random olive]

I tried it out and it works very well on my samsung galaxy S23

[mortal solstice]

Same with the quick menu vs action menu

Angry

[hybrid tendon]

I agree with that too

[grand zenith]

Man, people be ignoring the sticky bot lol

[mortal solstice]

I didn't ignore it, just expressing my anger

Heck you google! 😭

[ancient birch]

I have pink textures sometimes. Couldn't see myself in the mirror even with quest

Quest avi

[drifting nimbus]

Hello)

[random olive]

i haven't ran into that?

your using the same phone?

[tepid dagger]

It's not letting me in now.

[mortal solstice]

Android VRChat worse then quest 1 VRChat. Can only see fallback avatars 😥

[mortal solstice]

Read the sticky.

[grand zenith]

Could just show avi lol

[random olive]

true but other than that it works suprisingly

[mortal solstice]

Nope, says it can't be shown on this platform

[fresh lion]

For not it will probably be worked on later

guys remember this is still in alpha

It will be a slow process

[merry edge]

Yep

[grand zenith]

Thats because the person didn't upload it to android, not really anything different the quest in standalone mode.

[ancient birch]

No a70

[mortal solstice]

No, I know they have quest avatar, because a quest person beside me could show it just fine.

[wet sorrel]

@mortal solstice I was able to see 1 Quest avatar besides my own

[ancient birch]

A71*

[wet sorrel]

I left 3 pics in #vrchat-pictures

[ancient birch]

Read above messages or the bot*

It'll be fixed tomorrow

[pearl mulch]

that's because a very poor avatars are not available on Android

[wet sorrel]

Very true. No very poor avatars shown

[mortal solstice]

That's what I was saying lol which is 90% of quest avatars

[hybrid tendon]

They should work how the Quest handles it instead of outright not allowing them at least

[azure bison]

Steam Deck will never beat this tho xD

[grand zenith]

Sounds like 90% of your friends lol.
I could see all my friends minus like 2 lol.

[mortal solstice]

🤷

[wet sorrel]

I saw my 1st Perf Blocked avatar in a long time

[next elbow]

How do you switch between horizontal and vertical mode?

[random olive]

you can do that?

[pearl mulch]

then it sounds like your friends need to learn how to optimize avatars

[wet sorrel]

It changes depending on if you bring up the big menu, and chatbox

[mortal solstice]

It's hard enough fricking getting them to even upload to quest. Let alone crunch their avatars into distorted mess and uploading lol

[pearl mulch]

they're doing it wrong if you would describe it as a distorted mess

[grand zenith]

The amount of people who just yolo upload hot garbage pc avatar right onto quest kek

[wet sorrel]

I need to figure out how to bring my FPS up with 10+ fallbacks

Possibly hide and culling

Mic will need to be fixed when speaking with others. Chatbox works

[azure bison]

i ported all my mains luckily

[robust beacon]

It kinda freezes sometimes but its cool either way. But i had a problem with the original home world mirror where it didnt load my avatar

[pearl mulch]

definitely quite frustrating

[grand zenith]

Best part is when the base has a quest version and people still upload the pc version lol

[wet sorrel]

I'm glad I turned off cloning beforehand

[charred yoke]

heres a problem that a common user has before downloading, most of us have 4g ram on our phones, so the app is uncompatable before even starting

[unkempt nimbus]

yeah, guys? it's not that hard, yes it's gonna look slightly scuffed if you're starting with something extremely detailed, however I'm gonna just prove a point, if my avatar can be medium on quest without becoming unrecognizable, I'm pretty sure anything can.

[grand zenith]

More people need to learn what a normal map is lol

[wet sorrel]

I do have a PC only store bought avatar, I made Quest compatible, just need to learn more to optimize it more.

[azure bison]

VRChat with 4GB is not gonna even 20fps probably

[mortal solstice]

Rex avatars sweating with their polygon soup tails

[wet sorrel]

I had 44 FPS by myself, but down to 8 FPS with friends in fallback

[charred yoke]

hopefully they add more optimisations to the app later in development

[earnest basalt]

Man I love integ

[azure bison]

I have a phone with 11GB Ram and it wasnt expensive

just upgrade lol

[velvet badge]

common phones: 4GB of RAM
Quest 2 (Most commonly used standalone headset for VRC): 6GB of RAM
my galaxy fold 3: 12GB of RAM

In smaller lobbies and in optimized worlds, I hit 60FPS
but in crowded lobbies I get around 25-30FPS
Granted, still playable but eeeeh needs improvements.

[charred yoke]

bro im not made out of money

ill probably root my phone and see what i can do lol

[azure bison]

paid around 300, cheap for Xiaomi.

[unkempt nimbus]

realistically speaking who tf upgrades a phone for VRchat anyways?

[velvet badge]

Xiaomi is a good brand, though I am sketchy about it. in the end I just flashed it with a custom debloated ROM and it's fine.

[charred yoke]

how much is a galaxy fold 3?

[velvet badge]

bought it for a grand a couple of years ago, it's probs cheaper now.

[azure bison]

Just using how it is for ages and never had issues. Its Samsung but better imo

[grand zenith]

Did you look at the msg in red?

[willow ore]

I'm running the s23ultra, first time logged in avi cloning was on so becareful on that.

[oak nacelle]

Ye

[azure bison]

if you wanna be fancy on the go just buy a Steam Deck. Works perfect just fans can get a bit loud in expensive worlds.

[velvet badge]

I've seen a photo of someone running Android on their Nintendo Switch and running VRC off that.

[indigo plinth]

^

[willow ore]

was just about to do the same they know and the trying to fix

Read pinned message

[charred yoke]

would this work with tablets?

[willow ore]

yes android depending on model

[charred yoke]

alright

[drifting nimbus]

Mmmm

[willow ore]

imagine been stuck on a 12 hr night shift and vrchat gifted me with such luck ❤️🤣

[calm ember]

what is this, android 6?

[azure bison]

dont think your phone would last that long

[willow ore]

min android 10 needed I think they said @drifting nimbus

[wet sorrel]

Found out my phone has 6GB of RAM

[drifting nimbus]

@calm ember no android 13

[willow ore]

oh

[wet sorrel]

I have Android 13

[calm ember]

what phone is it?

[wet sorrel]

Work on Quest lag, and mic. It should work

[azure bison]

Yup 13, 14 soon. 10 is required

[drifting nimbus]

@calm ember

[willow ore]

I'm 13 too

[calm ember]

wtf is THAT

[wet sorrel]

Going for newer phone starting next year

[daring fog]

Hi

[drifting nimbus]

@calm ember It's not clear what the error is

@calm ember @willow ore

[cold bone]

Can't you solve this problem yourself?

[rancid isle]

Good morning ! Do we agree that there is a country problem? Me the Play Store prevents me because supposedly my country is not available.

[drifting nimbus]

@calm ember What to do to wait for the update?

[calm ember]

Unsure, good luck!

[quiet relic]

That error looks like something that would happen if the game was built incorrectly but that's not the case as people are able to launch without issue. I'd try reinstalling vrchat again just to be sure.

[wet sorrel]

@rancid isle I got on the mobile version earlier, and now it doesn't work because the pinned message states what it is

[vivid cove]

Access successful, but not successful

[hybrid tendon]

Oops, almost there

[willow ore]

maybe try a clear cache and uninstall re install?

[brisk trellis]

Hello, the problem with the login is in progress? Currently, YouTube no longer works with Android and Quest. Tried everything yesterday.

[drifting nimbus]

@willow ore Tried not like

[rancid isle]

Why doesn't VRChat just provide the APK.. it would just be easier, in the meantime at least.

[forest cosmos]

You need to have VRCHAT +

[mystic moat]

I have vrchat+

[rancid isle]

.. :c

[forest cosmos]

Right, If you get a message about not getting an integrity token, that's normal. It's a limit that Google implements that will have to be increased

[mystic moat]

Ok. How do I fix that? LoL

[hybrid tendon]

You can't

[mystic moat]

I see. XD

[hybrid tendon]

It's an issue with Google itself

[rancid isle]

Yes, I know... what a mess this update is...
I'd just like to know if it's only available in the USA, if VRChat forgot my country, or if it's just Google that takes time to update.

[last nebula]

will it not work on an android tablet?

[forest cosmos]

You can.

[wet sorrel]

I'm from the USA

[last nebula]

Ah telling me my Samsung s6 with android 13 isn't compatible

[forest cosmos]

DOWLOAD LINK -> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vrchat.mobile.playstore&pli=1

[mystic moat]

Well, I am sure it will work itself out after they patch it.

[forest cosmos]

This app is available for all of your devices

[rancid isle]

Can someone export the APK of their VRChat App?

[forest cosmos]

Sadly not, If your trying to get VRCHAT by APK

Nope due to security reasons + copyright

[rancid isle]

Rhaaaa

But.. "not available in your country"

[mystic moat]

That's what it claims but it looks like it may not be true at this time

[rancid isle]

😢

[wet sorrel]

There is the token issue, so maybe that is why

[rancid isle]

atTupper Can you confirm that all country is available in the Play Store settings of your app or not? 😥

[forest cosmos]

It should be all country.

What country are u in lusiiky?

[grand zenith]

90% sure he is asleep lol.
||Watch me say this and he pop out the the shadows||

[rancid isle]

xD

[mystic moat]

😂

[keen hornet]

So how to open radial menu?

[tepid dagger]

Hold down the normal menu button

It'll give option for radial menu

[willow ore]

oh!

Well thank u I had no clue myself

[keen hornet]

Will try in a bit

[boreal moss]

Huh, Android 13 is not supported?

[mystic moat]

i didnt see that. it only have problem due to google pixel 7 pro phone XD

too bad. lol

[boreal moss]

Well I am running LineageOS 20 but I've pretty much masked the fact I'm doing so.

[hybrid tendon]

Oh hey, the issue of integrity token seems to be fixed for me

[cold bone]

I was unable to log in due to a token issue, but I was just able to address the issue and will show you how to do so.
First of all, delete your cache before deleting the VRchat app. Then uninstall VRchat and try again. After that, log in and it should be resolved.
I am using a translation software and the sentence is not correct.

[balmy pilot]

wonder if it's because the pst day reset

[hybrid tendon]

What does that do?

[boreal moss]

^^^ any ideas?

I have a semi new device running the latest version of Android.

[ancient birch]

Guess you'll just have to wait for Tupper perhaps. Is my guess

[hybrid tendon]

Ah nice, finally getting 120 FPS

[cold bone]

PS: I am using pocoF3 (MIUI)

[ancient birch]

I am using an A71. So Idk how good that is technically for vrchat

[balmy pilot]

do you have 6gb ram?

[boreal moss]

8

[mystic moat]

thank you

[hybrid tendon]

Only one way to find out I guess

[wet sorrel]

I'm using Samsung A52

[tepid dagger]

Integrity issue fixed for me too

[mystic moat]

work very well. UI can use work but it fine 🙂 it is useable

[hybrid tendon]

[tepid dagger]

It works on my a51

[hybrid tendon]

How is the performance?

https://youtu.be/UBo-7Qn4H-Y

[hybrid tendon]

4 months ago this came out

[short delta]

Do i get this right it doesn't work for anyone with Android 13 or 14?

[boreal moss]

Yeah it was a video made for entrainment.

[boreal moss]

Well can't say for sure but I'm damn sure that it doesn't install on my Android 13 phone.

[nova ravine]

does anyone else have a samsung Gal 9+ or any Gal phone. the S series not the A series. I wanted to know how well it works in DEX mode

[hybrid tendon]

So what I found out, at first launch into the game, I could only get 60 FPS capped, but after switching back and forth between "Capped" and other FPS limiters, I could get 120 FPS

[nova ravine]

what phone?

[hybrid tendon]

S23+

[nova ravine]

you should test it out in DEX for me

[hybrid tendon]

I do need a HDMI cable for that, which I don't think I have it for connecting my monitor with this phone

[ripe sorrel]

Trying with nothing phone now

[nova ravine]

actually, you dont!

[hybrid tendon]

Wireless mode right?

[nova ravine]

that too

but no

[hybrid tendon]

Yea, I will see if I can

[nova ravine]

https://www.samsung.com/us/apps/dex/

Download their software and you can plug your phone directly to your computer and use it that way too

[hybrid tendon]

Oh okay, I can do that. My laptop does have USB-C port

[nova ravine]

neat, sadly, unless I wanna pay 100 bucks

[hybrid tendon]

Nah, not worth it if you already could ask somebody to test it

[nova ravine]

ok just noticed, I can't click "continue" with a mouse

[hybrid tendon]

Oh really?

That's odd

[nova ravine]

I use a mouse and keyboard all the time on my phone when I'm downstairs. I actively use DEX mode with a monitor in my kitchen

[hybrid tendon]

Neat one

[nova ravine]

I got the 1080 monitor from good will for $25 xD

[ripe sorrel]

Bitwarden autofill no work qwp

[terse mesa]

Finally something worse then quest

[nova ravine]

for now

[wet sorrel]

Token issue returned

[nova ravine]

But also, you have to remember a few things:

1. It's alpha, nothing is EVER good in Alpha.
2. Quest is using like 3-5 year old parts
3. Most of what's in a quest isn't even that good so saying "the quest is bad" in general doesn't really mean anything.

[hybrid tendon]

Mine has more RAM memory than my Quest 2, that's for sure

[nova ravine]

exactly

but the biggest bullshit is that Samsung stopped putting in an expandable storage slot in their phones after the S20

[hybrid tendon]

Yeah, I do miss that feature from my A51

[nova ravine]

I don't trust I might break my phone, I want to back my photos up on my card if I can. I don't pay for cloud storage.

[half tapir]

Videos players don't work, i guess that's normal?

[hybrid tendon]

They did work for me in LS Media earlier

[nova ravine]

Did it ever on the quest stand-alone?

[hybrid tendon]

Yes

[nova ravine]

I never saw it working.

Interesting

I did hear that Google Pixel had a desktop mode

[hybrid tendon]

First time joined, it failed. After I rejoined, it worked

[half tapir]

On Android i couldn't get video player to work at all unfortunately

[terse mesa]

Even more optimized?!?! 💀💀💀

[boreal moss]

100 bucks? VRChat plus is like 20$ monthly and that's literally nothing if you make income.

[half tapir]

$10

[boreal moss]

Well there is tax...

[nova ravine]

$8.33~

[violet zinc]

Youtube/twitch ones don't seem to work. But if its a direct link like the movie worlds it works fine for me on Android

[nova ravine]

Even then I can't pay for it right now.

[boreal moss]

Europe everything more expensive.

[half tapir]

Tax is double the base price for you?

[boreal moss]

Yeah pretty much.

[nova ravine]

I literally had 1 day this last week and it pisses me off all for my mothers dumbass party.

I would have had another $160 paycheck.

[half tapir]

Where do you live?

[nova ravine]

I literally only made $120 this week vs the $280 a week I normally make. It's not a lot

[hybrid tendon]

I dunno. Have you tried rejoining?

[boreal moss]

Europe

[nova ravine]

have you tried turning it off an on again?

[half tapir]

Yes multiple times including restarting

[boreal moss]

And it's more expensive because my steam account is located in a different country than I live in, and due to inflation in that country. I'm paying tax + inflation interest.

[half tapir]

I live in Europe too and it's just 9€ after currency conversion for me

[nova ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6D0YcZ80u4

[vale edge]

Worked for me. I was just watching parks and rec lol

I keep having issues with audio just stopping working tho. Suddenly game has no audio at all until restart. But otherwise worked for video watching.

[hybrid tendon]

Can't do multitasking while in a crowded lobby though

[full loom]

i got it booted on a raspberry pi do i win a prize

[nova ravine]

What we need is a "desktop mode" for some of us that use our phones in DEX mode.

[nova ravine]

also dude that's dope.

[full loom]

unfortunately it instantly boots out with this

devs please fix

[nova ravine]

any particular reason as to why

does it not like it that you did it on a pi or something?
What android version is this?

[full loom]

i wouldn't know, it logs in and shows the world fine as you can see

[half tapir]

Read the message that gets spammed by the bot

[vale edge]

It works right now where I am once midnight hit the limit reset.

[full loom]

nah i don't think it's the same thing

[half tapir]

It is

[vale edge]

It is

[nova ravine]

guess it's best I wait regardless. I'm more than willing to test specific features.

[vale edge]

Currently I'm able to login and play right now, I assume the limit will get hit again tho. Resets daily.

[full loom]

well, guess it's just a coincidence then, assumed the pi was to fault because to be fair it is by far not a traditional setup

if that's all it is then, it suggests playing on the pi is actually viable 🥴

[nova ravine]

this needs testing

[boreal moss]

Well you may have to root your Pi and run some software to bypass Play Integrity.

[vale edge]

Yeah tbh it may just be play protect in their case since it should be working rn until the limit is hit again

[keen hornet]

I'm stuck in a circle menu inside the radial menu and it says that you can use x to close it, but that closes the menu

[boreal moss]

Because VRChat relies on Google's Play Integrity API which prevents the game running on systems that have bad integrity such as systems without GMS, root or custom ROM. Or just in general open bootloader.

[full loom]

lol that would explain things

this ROM doesn't have GMS i don't think

[vale edge]

I have an unlocked bootloader, but running stock unrooted and works. But ye

[half tapir]

Wonder why video players don't seem to work for me

[boreal moss]

I have root and LineageOS and even LSPosed so I had to install a few things to get the thing actually running.

[vale edge]

What are ur specs for your soc and GPU

[half tapir]

Idk

I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro

[vale edge]

That's like 5 phone names in one lol

[boreal moss]

I just wish VRChat won't start blocking devices without STRONG integrity. Because most people using Android usually have modified systems because Android as is. Usually it is pretty bad.

[vale edge]

Payment processing and marketplace probably will require it.

[half tapir]

I know processor is snapdragon. More i don't know right now. Wait

[vale edge]

Yeah. They're okay specs but def not the best.

[boreal moss]

Nah it doesn't, Google doesn't enforce that, despite only having BASIC integrity, I can use my banking and even payment processors like Google Pay / Wallet

[vale edge]

Fair

[boreal moss]

Well anyways, that integrity thing is a bit problem for few type of systems, given how open the Android ecosystem is. You can literally run android on devices that originally did not run it.

Eg: Nintendo Switch and I bet there are few people who want to do that (Including myself) and the only way to get these to run is using a quite different version of Android compared to your standard manufacturer ROM

[half tapir]

@vale edge so my hardware is the image above and 8GB RAM

[vale edge]

Yeah. It's not the best specs. Idk man. I'd expect it work but who knows. Was more or less curious

[boreal moss]

But on the other hand, you can bypass it if you really want to...

[proud grail]

android 11, 6Gb ram. fitting min reqs

[half tapir]

Oh also i have Android 12

[boreal moss]

It's probs because you've not been added as beta tester yet.

It said it takes like 15-30 mins ish.

[proud grail]

apparently gplay already did, unless it's also something on vrc side

[nova ravine]

Feature request that is mobile only. An incentive

[vale edge]

Man. I can literally only play for like 10-15 min at a time before the audio just stops working lmao. Least it restarts quick

[tight summit]

What are the min requirement on Android?

[vale edge]

Mainly 6gb memory

[plain obsidian]

I don't understand this part from #android-announcements. I spawned with my very poor quest avi and see/use it just fine..

[vale edge]

I guess they fall back

[brave marten]

Hello, I'm encountered an issue with Vrchat Mobile on my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra. Whenever I try to start Vrchat in portrait mode, the app tends to crash. When I first logged into Vrchat Mobile, my default home world wasn't cached yet. Vrchat tried to download it and stopped the download attempt and tried to load the standard home world, but this also failed. This led to the app getting stuck in a loop, constantly switching between trying to load my home world and the standard world. Vrchat also displayed an error suggesting there was rapid switching between worlds.

[tepid dagger]

Me and my "art" trying to use a damn pen in android mode. 🤣

[tranquil fulcrum]

well done! it is too hard for me.

[half tapir]

Ok to be specific: i cannot load youtube urls on mobile

LS Media movies do work

[tepid dagger]

The video player for quest has been broken for like a week now.

[half tapir]

So i assume direct urls (old method before quest resolver) work but stuff needing quest resolver does not

[tranquil fulcrum]

It can play shorts videos, while normal youtube video is not working.

[wary umbra]

same tbh

wonder if thats what they mean by "viewable" but not usable

id love some clarification on that,

[icy knot]

That's seems to be a mistake, it says on the docs you can wear but no one else will see it.

[trim flare]

Will we be able to use android without VRC+ when it's out of alpha?

[plain obsidian]

ah that would make sense!

[icy knot]

Yeah

[trim flare]

Thank goodness, I miss playing vrc 😮‍💨

[half tapir]

That's weird lol

[mighty mason]

google play beta support so i can play on android build on pc would be great 👀 my phone isnt supported.

[half tapir]

Can try downloading apk on apkmirror

[mighty mason]

I cant imagine the team would be too fond of that suggestion lol. but the apk hasnt been... uh.. redistributed yet

[pallid slate]

Hmm seems movies works but fallback is all we can see even if you tweak the setting but can see all the questie avatar you wear atm hmmmm

[barren field]

It's likely because very poor avatars are permenantly disabled on the android build so they're being changed to their fallbacks

[pallid slate]

Tested this with friends and nothing worked but yeah fair tbh see how it goes once they allow it

[half tapir]

Very poor being disabled is a bit unfortunate since i can't see any of my friends basically lmao

Well if they even have a Quest version of their avatar to begin with

But if they do they all have very poor

[tepid dagger]

No 3rd person video camera for questies? Fine, I'll make it myself.

[ancient birch]

My game works now, problem is I get Pink Textures for some things

[ancient birch]

How???

[tepid dagger]

Magic

[ancient birch]

I must know now /j

[tepid dagger]

Mobile vrc using Android screencap, and use an alt account for the rest like motions and audio.

[ancient birch]

This verison is worse than quest IMO cause instead of textures and stuff being universally uncompatible with quest, now we have things that are gonna be different for EVERYONE because different phones for different folks ><

[ancient birch]

Sounds complicated ><

[tepid dagger]

Very easy actually.

[ancient birch]

I'm intrigued

[tepid dagger]

Just a bit... weird to set up. I just wish they'd add 3rd person video camera for quest. Also, mobile photos are so much better than quest

[ancient birch]

(Ps. Is it true that ONLY people with vrc+ are using this? Or are there people without vrc+ somehow using this?)

[ancient birch]

Are they? Also yeah, I hate how quest desktop (aka: Mobile) basically has the same camera setup as Desktop ><

[tepid dagger]

Photos from mobile are better though

[hybrid tendon]

Pink textures for avatars, worlds, or both?

[ancient birch]

So far for world

But it's just one world experience

[hybrid tendon]

Guess a few worlds can be broken on Android phones

[ancient birch]

I mean yeah it looks like it I just mean I can't fly somehow u like desktop and I can't move out of camera mode

[ancient birch]

Probably just phone type advantages and disadvantages

One can see all textures and some can't

[tepid dagger]

Meh. Still in alpha. Tons of work to do yet

[hybrid tendon]

Yeah, the fact you cannot use middle mouse click like on PC desktop to pan it around is eh...

[ancient birch]

True true

[ancient birch]

Yeah 😦

I wanna make a video on mobile vrc tho. Since it's new still

I haven't made a video in ages

[hybrid tendon]

Screen capture should be fine for now

[ancient birch]

So wanna reason to post something on YT

[tepid dagger]

I've been making tiktoks all morning

[ancient birch]

It wouldn't let me 😦

It lagged a bit and then stopped the recording right as I started it each time

[icy knot]

I just tried it on a Pixel 3A, 4GB of RAM is definitely not enough LMAO. FPS is fine until you run out of RAM, then it freezes and just sits there for a bit :3

[ancient birch]

Lovely

[tepid dagger]

Ouch. My a51 doing just fine

[hybrid tendon]

Hah, 8GB RAM here and it stuttered when I went to 30+ players lobby

[ancient birch]

Me and my a71:

[icy knot]

Rip 4GB phone havers, it was worth the try tho

[ancient birch]

*

[vale edge]

I mean the OS probably consumes half that alone lmao

[ancient birch]

LMAO probably

[velvet badge]

8GB RAM? 12GB of RAM here and yeah mine tends to struggle but the RAM is never 100% used so I assume it's a separate limitation such as the GPU and/or the CPU

[icy knot]

~45 second freezes in the default home with an awtter on.

[ancient birch]

Bro someone shut the bot up, it doesn't need to be showing after EVERY message

Maybe like a word filter? 💀

[hybrid tendon]

Awtter?

Oh, avatar

[ancient birch]

I gtg have fun guys xD

[hybrid tendon]

It does depend on the avatar you load into, and your phone specs

[icy knot]

The awtter avatar.

I had one of OctoFloofy's hobkins on before, that seemed to cause even more freezes

[hybrid tendon]

Oh, I have not tested with that model yet

[vale edge]

Lmao. Phone specs not up to snuff. His avatars worked fine for me

[icy knot]

I also ran into this? Did the textures not load because of the ram issue or is this an actual bug?

[vale edge]

Yeah. Known issue with bird sanctuary. Probably a few worlds.

[icy knot]

Ah

[hybrid tendon]

Actual bug, happens to me too

[tepid dagger]

Can we mute that damn bot? Integrity issue seems fixed now

[torpid quest]

Having better luck getting in to worlds today and my friend list is loading. It's neat to see finally the quest shader bug one of my worlds has. :D;;

Pink background in this one for example

Impressive to see what other worlds have managed to do though and look so good on Quest.

Well, Android!

[velvet badge]

Since people like to flex their higer-performant phones in the chat, here's me flexing mine......literally.

[vale edge]

It's not. They have a daily cap. It reset when the new day started. It will hit cap again probably soon until they have Google increase the cap.

[lusty hazel]

of course Fusl is sleeping again

[velvet badge]

Indeed :p

[lusty hazel]

Which Fold is that btw?

[velvet badge]

Fold 3, the exact same phone as it's predecessors the fold 4 and 5

[hybrid tendon]

The battery icon on that UI could use some fixes. It isn't tracking the actual battery level that the phone has

[lusty hazel]

It's also overlapping the Safe Mode button for me xD

[vale edge]

I just use the one on my phone anyways.

Literally swipe down. Not hard to see.

[velvet badge]

I noticed that but it's alpha, it's gonna be flakey and even the game resizing between my phone's two screens has minor hiccups but otherwise mostly works without any further issues.

[hybrid tendon]

Yup

[modest dome]

what does this mean? How to fix this?

[hybrid tendon]

Try logging in again

[velvet badge]

Just try again
I was able to launch the game 5 minutes ago with no issues. It's a limit as the bot has explained.

[lusty hazel]

The thumb stick repositioning can be a bit annoying when trying to use a world UI...

[tepid dagger]

I'm just happy ls media works on mobile!

Can finally watch edgerunners comfortably now.

[lusty hazel]

Lmao

No we need full screen and a way to hide the UI xD

[hybrid tendon]

For now, it can only be hidden if not used for a certain time

[tepid dagger]

They've got f11 for PC people, maybe updating something like that for mobile?

[worn drum]

Any reason for it to not support pixel 7 pro?

[boreal moss]

Yeah it's weird...

[tepid dagger]

Pixel not run android?

[boreal moss]

Many devices don't have "support" for it.

[hybrid tendon]

Weird indeed

[boreal moss]

What else it would run?

[modest dome]

ios

[tepid dagger]

A refrigerator? F*ck if I know. I'm not techy

[hybrid tendon]

Pixel runs iOS :))

[worn drum]

Xd

[vale edge]

Pixel actually uses Nokia's Symbian OS

[livid zodiac]

Just checked why its not compatible. In one of the requirements, it says you need atleast 6gigs of ram on your phone

[tepid dagger]

Ope.

[hybrid tendon]

I mean, Pixel is Google's phone

[boreal moss]

But every phone has 6+ gigs of ram now a days...

[hybrid tendon]

Let that sink in

[tepid dagger]

Rip pixel

[livid zodiac]

6gigs of ram or more*

[tepid dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/let-that-sink-in-let-that-sink-in-meme-let-that-sink-gif-26164212

[modest dome]

pixel 7 pro does not have 6 gigs?

[hybrid tendon]

Perfect

[boreal moss]

It has 12

😂

[worn drum]

p7 pro has 12

[livid zodiac]

Pixel running on Android?

[hybrid tendon]

Yep

[pliant ferry]

The play store is doing that for a lot of phones that should be compatible so I'm sure they'll fix it

[livid zodiac]

Hmm weird

[boreal moss]

@worn drum you got Lineage? Or other fork of Android rather than Google's own distribution?

[modest dome]

maybe then it wont to run because of custom cpu, idk

[boreal moss]

It's literally ARM64

[modest dome]

yeah

[boreal moss]

It runs on ARM cortex

[worn drum]

Nope, using Google's

Rooted via magisk, passing safetynet

[boreal moss]

Do you pass Google's new Integrity API?

I am 100% certain VRChat uses that.

[livid zodiac]

Wondering if its a regional thing. Everyone that has the not compatibility issue, are ya'll within the US?

[boreal moss]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gr.nikolasspyr.integritycheck

Personally I don't pass it, and I have the same issue.

[worn drum]

Lemme reboot to see if ill pass, i have noticed cts will fail after being booted for a while with my phone weirdly

[modest dome]

hmmm, can you download apk and bypass that message that your phone not meets requirements?

[boreal moss]

Possibly, I could use different device to download the APK, then extract it and install it on this "untrusted" device.

But if they really rely on STRONG integrity, it won't help.

[sly trout]

So, when I try to download the app on my phone all I get is "This device isn't compatible" I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 with Android 11

[livid zodiac]

Naisu

[boreal moss]

Mmmm pixel...

Despite having root it has flawless integrity.

[upper fossil]

i did exactly that with my phone passing all of the play integrity checks, and it still fails. probably because i forcefully downloaded vrc through a resolver >.>

[worn drum]

Man imma have to do funny things when I get home to fix CTS, then try

[livid zodiac]

I'm 50% certain its due to a region thing? Cause when you look up vrchat alpha on the appstore search index, doesn't show the exact app

[upper fossil]

it's not public yet, won't pop up in search results (at least, for me)

[worn drum]

I'm in the US so

[boreal moss]

Well, If you don't mind I can send some modules in dms, I'll send a GitHub link. But I don't really wanna share here.

They can be used for more harm than good.

[sly trout]

I'm pretty sure a Redmi Note 11 has all the minimum requirements needed and yet Google play says it's incompatible, whyyyyyy

[livid zodiac]

Lots of people havin this issue, we'll just have to wait and see what the devs will be doin about it

[boreal moss]

It would say "This application is not available for your region at this time"

Or something similar to that.

Let me try boot into Android 14 and see if it works...

[icy knot]

I was able to install it with Aurora & my Google account, but my Pixel is stock AF (minus having microG installed along side normal GAPPS)

[sly trout]

Ahh alrighty

[wispy prism]

Right now its stuck on "connecting"

[short delta]

Ohhh I think I have the same issue

Atleast I know what is missing now

[boreal moss]

it unfortunately seems that VRChat indeed did decide to "cockblock" at least a huge group of Android users for use of "STRONG" Integrity, tried installing it on a phone without any modifications and no root things or whatnot and it just works.

Shame.

[hexed iris]

Anyone else experiencing total audio loss that randomly occurs that can only be fixed by force closing the app?

[hexed iris]

Just thought to bring that into attention as feedback

[worn drum]

Fixed cts at least, still "not available" though

[worn drum]

If you gave one that can rid my strong play integrity gimme gimme :D

[boreal moss]

it used to be able to do so, Google patched it.

[worn drum]

Heck

Once i get home ill see if i can download on my OnePlus 5t

Using lineage atm iirc

[boreal moss]

Good luck with that, I will still try one trick.

[lapis blade]

Wait wheres the apple section 💀

[rain vault]

Why can i now suddenly not use a bunch of my own avis? They keep appearing as fallbacks..

[lapis blade]

Thats weird

[boreal moss]

Android version should have exact same limitations as in the Quest

[rain vault]

Oh, i had download size set to 5mb. Nvm!

[thick prairie]

you using bluetooth? cuz there seems to be issues surrounding it

[hexed iris]

That could be it, I can't remember if it happens on the external speakers too, but I know for sure that it happens with my Galaxy Buds

[boreal moss]

@worn drum was able to download it.

[thick prairie]

I used to have bluetooth audio issues on quest as well until I switched to wired, only two solutions I found to solve it was disconnecting the device and reconnecting it really quickly (which sometimes only worked for a little bit, but at least has the chance to fully fix it) or restarting the game. I imagine switching to a different audio source (ie, plugging in wired or switching to speakers) could also fix it, but I never tested that

[icy stag]

says the game isn't compatible with my phone :(.

[lapis blade]

I was playing with the quest 2 with my gaming headset with microphone and it broke for a bit then i realized my volume was at 0 but its fun still to use a microphone thats better then using my apple earbuds because my apple headphones are from the series 6 apple box

[thick prairie]

trust me, i checked my volume lol; but yeah I get the microphone thing

[icy stag]

when i use a headset. it still had the default mic, now to change that?

[rain vault]

Swipe down above your screen, click media output, switch it to phone and then back.

[ancient birch]

Is it a waste of time for me to try and record my experience and thoughts of vrchat mobile?

It seems like so many people may be doing or something that my effort would seem pointless ;w;

[west arrow]

Finally a new era in content testing is here

[hybrid tendon]

Nope

[ancient birch]

Like I may not be able to explain in knowledgeable details like using actual terms but I can give my honest thoughts ><

[thick prairie]

not really. basically everyone’s got unique phones, so any and all news about bugs, things that run better than expected, etc. that gets back to here is useful

[ancient birch]

Fair. I was gonna post it to YT since I haven't posted anything there in forever. I wanted to give my viewers something to show I'm alive xD

[tepid dagger]

Is there a way to see very poor avis?

[dim seal]

i havent found a way to show peoples avatsrs yet. it only shows their fall back avatars

[fresh lion]

Nope not until they work on it

[fresh lion]

That is a feature not a glitch

[ancient birch]

On a funny note of all this the Token Max Cap anyone got any funny ideas for a Status?

I was wanting to add a status on my profile with all this that had happened lmao

[fresh lion]

Oh you can go back in now btw it us working

[thick prairie]

at the moment they’re turned off for performance issues. I don’t know for certain since I can’t play it yet, but I believe you can see very poor avis if you’re the one wearing it?

[fresh lion]

Correct

[thick prairie]

aight, sweet

[fresh lion]

But you can only see the ones you wear if you clone someones avatar and then show theirs it will still show their fallback

[thick prairie]

so basically it just limits it to one, yourself

[ancient birch]

Well yeah Ik I just thought the whole ordeal was funny

[hexed iris]

Noted, I'll try that

[thick prairie]

ah, sounds complicated

[fresh lion]

Not really just a feature

In short everyone who has very poor preformance can't be seen as you said earlier only you can see your own very poor preformance avatars

[worn drum]

After yoinking my op5t from the drawer, i can confirm that it isn't integrity causing it to show as incompatible

Very weird

[proud fern]

Ah, I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem

[half tapir]

How do you see that?

[fresh lion]

Huh I thought they fixed it earlier

I guess for some people it is fixed and for others it isn't because I was just on vrc 3 minutes ago

[proud fern]

They did?

I'll check for updates--

[worn drum]

Second SS is "yet another safetynet attestation checker", first one is "play integrity API checker"

You shouldn't need to worry about if it you aren't rooted/on a custom ROM

[boreal moss]

Btw what ROM are you running?

[proud fern]

Oh--
I'm on Lineage OS

[boreal moss]

on the OPT5?

[worn drum]

Lemme check

[boreal moss]

I may have a fix...

[worn drum]

gotta wait for it to boot again xd

[proud fern]

I hope having a custom ROM isn't the thing preventing me from trying it out

[fresh lion]

[worn drum]

project elixir: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-oss-12-1-june-oneplus-5t-dumpling-project-elixir-official-gapps.4418947/ | https://projectelixiros.com/device/dumpling

[boreal moss]

ok let me try something...

[proud fern]

What? Lineage OS is pretty neat 😭

[worn drum]

Is rooted via magisk, using Displax's safetynet fix, not using magiskhide or spoofed apk tho

[boreal moss]

nah it didn't solve it, but downloading it through "Aurora Store" is a "workaround"

I tried chaning addon.d to notaddon.d which technically should uh well yeah make custom rom status not exist. because that folder only exists on custom roms.

[worn drum]

After you do that, may want to clear caches and reboot

then see if it works

[boreal moss]

let's just hope i don't brick my phone haha.

[worn drum]

But that wouldn't be relevent considering my "stock" pixel 7 pro is "incompatible"

[boreal moss]

addon.d is used for persistency between updates.

[wet pecan]

This is a known issue and is mentioned in the release notes.

[west arrow]

Lineage OS and most custom ROMs have broken fingerprinting tripping integrity for simplicity I would recommend pixel experience with magisk hide

[proud fern]

damn, thanks for the tip

[worn drum]

Me and Nya have passing safetynet

[boreal moss]

@worn drum it fixed it!

[west arrow]

There used to be a magisk module that would allow you to apply fingerprints from a stock ROM onto the custom one used it back in the day but it's seems to be lost to time

[boreal moss]

I found the root cause...

[worn drum]

😳

[worn drum]

Wha did u do

[boreal moss]

I renamed my addon.d folder in /system to something completely random. Then I restarted my device and wiped Google Play cache and data.

Because this is one of the mechanisms used to detect custom ROMs

And my hunch was right, I think using something like OverlayFS to automate the masking would be the best thing.

Afaik, this is something LineageOS introducted to Android, and every fork of Lineage has this same "issue"

[warm oriole]

Run it on the quest 2 with oculus tv lol

[worn drum]

When you checked this, was it after uninstalling

[boreal moss]

Also, renaming addon.d WILL completely break some things because it is used for persistency.

[worn drum]

because if you install the app from an external source, i can confirm it'll just show the uninstall and play buttons

[boreal moss]

nah.

[worn drum]

addon.d doesn't exist on either of my devices though, one is affected and the other isn't

so it's something else

[boreal moss]

previously it said still "Device is incompatible because of x or y"

[west arrow]

You will need to rename it back before flashing an update otherwise it will nuke gapps and other addon.d modules

[worn drum]

Ye i installed from aurora and it works on the pixel 7 pro

Does still have the incompatible text though

Now why'd that first screenshot go vertical what the

[boreal moss]

It's tricky, because it depends from device to device, google has plenty was to detect behvaiour they don't like.

this trick works for devices with Custom ROM that already mask root properly.

But yeah I deleted the aurora store and still I can now download it from Google play.

[worn drum]

Very weird moment

Man if custom recoveries were a thing that existed for the pixel 7 pro, i'd just take a backup and go to stock to test

[boreal moss]

How to play VRChat on Android if you're having issues with "Your device isn't compatible with this version"

Method A

If you're using just stock Android without any modifications you can download Aurora Store from here and then install VRChat Mobile through there.

If you have root and want to use Aurora Store, use the "Root" variant, otherwise choose "Session"

Method B

If you're using Custom ROM such as Lineage or something else and you have root. You can try doing the following steps above.

1. Rename /system/addon.d to something like whatareyoulookingfor as long it does not contain addon.d it should be fine.
2. Restart your device.
3. Wipe google play cache.

NOTE: addon.d is used for persistency for some packages and you should always rename it back to addon.d before update or it will break your system

Method C

If you're still having issues, I do suggest checking if your SafetyNet / Google Play integrity is upto standard, if you're using Magisk / KernelSU download https://github.com/chiteroman/PlayIntegrityFix and install it through either Magisk or KernelSU.

You can check that using these apps:

• https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gr.nikolasspyr.integritycheck&hl=en&gl=US
• https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rikka.safetynetchecker&hl=en&gl=US

Hope this helps you.

ok

[worn drum]

Now if there was a method D: "it just works"

why my 7 pro have to be so special kek

[boreal moss]

That shall be upto the developers themselves haha.

these are just temporary solutions.

[worn drum]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[solar kiln]

am honestly supprised how well it runs

sure my phone is getting rather hot

but still

[little hollow]

Atho VRChat mobile is in beta.. I wish we could at least get in-game notifications for free

[little hollow]

Like basic API stuff, like being able to friend people or get group notifications or friends requests

[boreal moss]

for "free"?

Not sure what that means.

Isn't it already included in-game?

[half tapir]

I have hard fps issues. I get less and less fps alone in a world

[half tapir]

There are some programs to do that. Though most are pc only

[little hollow]

When away that is

[boreal moss]

VRCX.

[little hollow]

Not for phone tho

[worn drum]

Wha world? Sounds like it could be a broken script or smth

[little hollow]

I have VRCX on my pc