"Different files" in the latest update

[naive oar]

after the update i always get the files are different when joining other players games. I have done a fresh install of both the game from the Legit disc and the cncnet client.

Can i get a list of files that the client checks and the Hash values so i can determine what file is different. Everything used to work fine before this update.

[warm falcon]

I have the same issue....

[naive oar]

my issue is not those files. THe files you are talking about need to be copied off the 3 discs. Movies01 and Maps01 is allied disc, 02 is sov disc and 03 is yuri disc. My issue is when i join other players game its says i have different files. But nothing is modded. only have that issue since the new update

[warm falcon]

well thank you for your help. i'll get the discs and copy them over.. my only question then is to copy them to which directory?

[naive oar]

mine is in c:\westwood\ra2

yours might be in a different location

[warm falcon]

copy that. thank you. sorry for hijacking your thread, but i very much appreciate your help.

[naive oar]

they go into the main game folder

na no problem

[bronze tide]

In fact, these files are only needed if you want to play the campaign. If you're aiming for only multiplayer, you can ignore this warning

[warm falcon]

Even better. Thank you

[bronze tide]

@restive willow @modern wagon There seems to be some kind of bug in the client, I also encounter this problem

[naive oar]

ok i see. I dont really mind but other players maythink i modded the files and will just kick me out of games.

[modern wagon]

for example if one uses a different Syringe.exe it will result in a different hash

creating rulesmd.ini in the game folder also results in a different hash

there are many files checked which are hard to list. So if you catch two PCs triggering such a warnning, please try zipping each folder and upload them to me privately so I can analyze the differences

alternatively, I need a robust way to reproduce this issue if one believe all files are the same

[restive willow]

no need, just client.log

it will give detailed hash

[bronze tide]

But we have a configuration in FHCConfig.ini

[Settings]
CalculateGameExeHash=True

[FilenameList]
00=gamemd-spawn.exe
01=Syringe.exe
02=Ares.dll
03=CnCNet-Spawner.dll
04=Phobos.dll

05=cncnet.mix
06=ra2mode.mix
07=ares.mix

08=Compatibility/Unix/wine-game.sh

[restive willow]

there are also hardcoded files to check

[bronze tide]

Sucks. Can you provide a link to the code ?

[mellow cloak]

I also get "have different files" message now 🤷‍♂️

[restive willow]

let's test it

[mellow cloak]

ya?

[mellow cloak]

k sec

[restive willow]

@mellow cloak the client.log is in the Client folder

[mellow cloak]

was looking at dog for a minute

is it cause of the missing maps? lol

[candid quartz]

wtf

[mellow cloak]

?

[candid quartz]

That’s a lot of missing maps

[mellow cloak]

i made a copy of the original map folder and than i delete some so i dont have like 5.000 maps in the client
but i guess that is not the reason for this issue?

👀

[candid quartz]

Depends if mpmaps is hashed I don’t remember

Just weird

[mellow cloak]

Game Filter what time today?

[restive willow]

@modest latch @candid quartz @modern wagon @serene notch what is Quick Match.ini?

[mellow cloak]

One info (not sure if relevant):
I use this files by Ravage

but never get that "different files message" on older cncnet versions

[candid quartz]

Not relevant I think

[mellow cloak]

k

[candid quartz]

I don’t even see an ini file named that?

In the repo

[restive willow]

I guess we could remove it

in deletion list

wonder if releasing 9.0.2 is in order yet

[candid quartz]

Christmas crates?

[mellow cloak]

if game filter is in it should xD

[restive willow]

that would be 9.1.0

[bronze tide]

Leave this for 9.1.0 as it is a major change

[mellow cloak]

Order: 9.1.0

11.11.2025

[mellow cloak]

For the different file issue no quick fix atm?

[restive willow]

delete Map Code\Quick Match.ini

[mellow cloak]

i test brb in ur game

[candid quartz]

Yeah but where did this file come from to begin with 😅

[restive willow]

some old ass update probably

@mellow cloak yeah no message for me either

[mellow cloak]

ya seems fixed - some1 join my room
no message

👍

Now Game Filter and u all have my permission for a small break

😜

[restive willow]

jokes aside -- that might be closer than you think

[mellow cloak]

🐙

[naive oar]

so deleting that file works?

[restive willow]

yes

can you confirm whether that's the issue for you?

[mellow cloak]

btw i was hosting some games today - most was fine (no message) but like by 30% of the ppl joining i still see the "different files message"
before i see that very very rarely
Probably something with the patch, may that "quickMatch.ini" or someth else.
Playing was possible without problem and new functions works fine 👍

[restive willow]

we'll be looking into fixing that for everyone

[naive oar]

ok ill check it out now

nope im still getting it.

Correction: SOme games i get it some i dont. SO i suppose it depends on if the player has it or not.

There is also another broken thing i noticed. any unit that is like a battle fort that becomes invisible is broken. the units inside dont fire unless its visible. The units are supposed to fire out of it even if its invisible. I have contacted RAZER about it.

[naive oar]

@restive willow Did the cncnet devs know exactly what changes were in ares? I found another once. Ill have to test it but i was in a survival that i always play and i noticed that you cant see the 3 stripe on a unit till i mind control them

[restive willow]

we know, well, 95% of it
it's somewhat hard to track 15 years of development
in Phobos we have 100% documentation policy for all changes, Ares idk

[candid quartz]

the hiding enemy insignia requires map code, it's not inside rules file afaik

[restive willow]

you mean the veteran insignia?

[naive oar]

yeah

it could have been a glitch

ill have to research it more

[candid quartz]

Extreme AI Beta dropdown has EnemyInsignia=no

if you're playing survival map with that option enabled it will hide it

[restive willow]

so you're the bug

[naive oar]

oh ok maybe thats why then

i was not aware of that

the guy i was playing with musta put a survival on extream ai

i would have finished it but game crashed when i minimized lol

[candid quartz]

https://github.com/CnCNet/cncnet-yr-client-package/blob/develop/package/INI/Game Options/AI/Extreme AI Beta.ini

incase you wanna read through 8.6k lines

lol

[naive oar]

well i can easly search for a topic to see if its a feature/bug thanks

[restive willow]

maybe we should disable that?

AI should be AI

[candid quartz]

Disable hiding enemy insignia?

[restive willow]

yeah

and other similar changes that have no relation to AI

[candid quartz]

I can go through and clean up a couple things. When I first pushed it to beta branch it was more of how many beta features from ares and phobos could I include

[mellow cloak]

after 9.02 it again seems like i get the "Different Files" message by every 1 🤷‍♂️ 🤠

[restive willow]

host a lobby and then send the client.log

[mellow cloak]

Ah works only when i make a lobby?

[restive willow]

yes

it hashes the files then

[naive oar]

Makes sense that it hashes at lobby creation/join. Maybe for beta testing we can have the client display what file its complaining about in the chat box. I have not tested the new update yet.

[restive willow]

we can't. the client is based on a public IRC network which is strict with spam
and sending the hash for every file is going to be a lot of spam

[naive oar]

Doed it drop the miss matched file hash in the log?

That will make debuging faster

[restive willow]

yes

that's how I found out

[naive oar]

Ok i thought it might. I just forgot to check the log lol. Momentary lapse of reason lol

[restive willow]

how

it was supposed to be deleted

[candid quartz]

Installer.exe had a couple too many beers?

Wtf lol

[mellow cloak]

beers? lol

[mellow cloak]

ok?

[restive willow]

how did you update?

via automatic updater or by installing from an installer?

[mellow cloak]

I download always full installer and run as admin

[restive willow]

why not automatic update

@modern wagon do you have an idea on how to handle that?

maybe we should uninstall CnCNet first if it's installed there?

either way @mellow cloak do a force update and it will be good as new

[mellow cloak]

In past i get sometimes trouble / error with win 10 anti vir if i run over client

[restive willow]

or delete RA2 Classic Mode.ini

[mellow cloak]

I try that first (i dont need it?)

[restive willow]

you don't

it's a leftover

[mellow cloak]

👍

[modern wagon]

the installer should respect updateexec IIRC

[restive willow]

preupdateexec

I added [DeleteFolder]->INI\ there

[naive oar]

i have not been getting the diff files error since the last update. now if only the invasable was fixed then i think that will help

[restive willow]

for now we got a multi engineer fix and QM observer crash fix in the pipeline

invisible is a bit complicated to fix because Ares is closed-source

[spice pumice]

dears, Im playing from linux mint with utris. I receive an error since the updateabot CampaignCheckBox was nt registered, any advises?

[restive willow]

the update went wrong somehow. can you delete and install CnCNet again?

"Different files" in the latest update

[spice pumice]

I can but Im unaware where te saved game are

Id lie to finish the campaign

[restive willow]

back up RA2MD.ini, Saved Games and Client folders from the installation folder

this will contain all the settings and saved games

[spice pumice]

the saved games folder is empty that is why im a bit worried

[restive willow]

can you create a separate thread for the issue?

I'll assist you there