Soldier and the Government + Mayor security advancement | Streets of Rogue🦍 | Page 1

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 3:46 AM

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As we know in real life, the government is the one to administer the army, so put that into SOR2!
Soldiers will be automatically loyal to any government agent (and aligned to the mayor/president)
i dont know if politician is considered Government Agent, but if he does Soldiers are loyal to him.
The playable Soldier Big Quest goes directly against the government (he is on a fight for power after all), Government starts off friendly with you, but as you go through your big quest they will be more and more annoyed, and when you've completed it, Government agents will be hostile (or annoyed if thats more balanced). And Soldiers SSA is different, instead he gets team building expert and can recruit soldiers for free (no free gun ammo or 5 accuracy), Doctor Super Special Abilities are kept the same.

Another thing: Mayors security will scale as you go to more powerful cities. the weakest mayors would have the basic from the demos, just some super goons and such. Mid-term security mayors would be of soldiers, and the president would be the classic supercops bodyguards.

Inspired by the user Gilipheoun commentary when we we're talking.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 4:40 AM

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yes and no yes the military is under the overall direction and administration of a country's government they are the own entity's as well actuality government officials are fearful of the military and leaders within the the military getting power Hungary idea's that’s why throughout history many key military figures have been imprisoned or excuted or have had to give up there power as they no longer have the support of the military or there various acts are in place to prevent the military from being deployed except in the cases of state of emergency/ martial law

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 5:09 AM

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as for gameplay i think they should be neutral maybe there could be a martial law mutator or random event where a city or the capital city is locked down with soldiers patrolling the streets checkpoints on the main entrances curfews EG or you could win them over doing jobs for them or persuading a general on the map to lead a croup with you

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 12:13 PM

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chilly sparrow as for gameplay i think they should be neutral maybe there could be a martial la...

I didnt really understand your idea here.

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Wdym they should be neutral.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 12:34 PM

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neutral as in they should not have allegiance to any one faction but if you continue to cause trouble kill citizens damage property EG you will gain negative rep with them but if you do jobs for them help their members out you can gain favor you can call on them for back up or if you get 100 good relations you can lead a coup d'état against the mayor or you can choose another city or town for them to take over

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 1:10 PM

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chilly sparrow neutral as in they should not have allegiance to any one faction but if you cont...

Nah, doesnt make sense.

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Thats a cop thing, not soldier thing

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about the getting hostile for crimes.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 2:00 PM

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The military still called on to enforce law and order they not since they’re not fighting hostile invading armies Besides monsters and whatnot that may potentially be in the game and I wasn’t referring to petty crimes yes that’s for civilian law enforcement. And yes they met very well like that. You’re doing them a favour and getting rid of thugs. And what not but if you continue to cause trouble against citizens. Citizens that pay their wages Major trouble like destroying whole buildings or even taking out cities. You will start to gain a negative rep with them. Potentially even. Seeing them take over the roles of police to deal with you as they have stronger equipment. And you’ve become too much of a threat / trouble for civilian enforcement to deal with

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 2:31 PM

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I think police would be better suited for this as they deal with the mayor and politicians more often and even form part of their security and potentially the mayor has bribed/persuaded and has some crooked cops on his side as the military and soldiers at least in the first game I haven’t played much of the demo so it may be different don’t really appear much outside of events and their bases

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 6:49 PM

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chilly sparrow I think police would be better suited for this as they deal with the mayor and p...

My issue with Politician and Cops having an alignment is well...

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There is already the upper-cruster...

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 6:53 PM

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chilly sparrow The military still called on to enforce law and order they not since they’re n...

I mean i think that would be cool, Soldiers dealing with you only if you are actually tearing cities apart. And of course their the ones to deal with bigger threats like... monsters (zombies) and cannibals.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 6:59 PM

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zealous ice My issue with Politician and Cops having an alignment is well...

But maybe that could work if the politician could like, pay for protection i guess.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 8:08 PM

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zealous ice My issue with Politician and Cops having an alignment is well...

That’s exactly why I think it would work they’re an up across us so there are afforded perks in this case police protection and alignment it’s just a thought

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 8:24 PM

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chilly sparrow That’s exactly why I think it would work they’re an up across us so there are af...

Fair enough, but how do you make the upper-cruster not like, useless?

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 9:11 PM

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The way I see it honestly the upper cross is pretty useless already really investment banker. But at the same time that’s why I love the streets of rogue. With the cast wacky characters you’ve got hacker gorilla soldier burglar. Gangster and then investment banker just gets thrown in there. It’s completely up to us how we wanna go about. It

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:18 PM

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@zealous ice@chilly sparrowSo first i want to say thank you Juni for the crediting me. But I have been thinking about this a bit.
I don't see the reason why the military couldn't be controlled by the president. HE corrupt after all. And he still needs the security to protect from other Countries?
soldier doesn't quite make sense as a general term. In SOR1 his BQ has him blowing up generators that on military grounds in Park

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I think soldier Should be separated into Mercenary. Then keep the military as is. IF we want to assume Super Cops are The Pres' Personals squad or LAW enforcement. But Mercs just seem more like a fit with someone radical. The military, if not controlled by the Pres, themselves would already overthrow the Pres because its Their families paying the price for corruption. Military is to protect their homeland after all. Inside or Outside the country.

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we would then assume that the military could be separated into 3 factions. or even further a Tier list for law.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:25 PM

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nova rapids I think soldier Should be separated into Mercenary. Then keep the military as is...

This 💯 I like the idea of that and yeah for the president it makes sense that he’d have his own elite unit of bodyguards mercenaries for this really fit because they’re hired guns after all maybe as a little quick reaction force by the may if he’s being attacked maybe even see them on the map doing some of his dirty work

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:25 PM

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so like goons, then, gangs, then mobs, then detectives, then cops, then super cops, then military,

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:29 PM

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Yes, I like the ideas. The military being kept as their own faction. There’s a plethora of other games with a dictator like a leader. Where the military are the generic oppressive occupying force. Nothing wrong with that but I like that streets of rogue is doing something different. And that’s not to say I know streets of rogue isn’t going that deep. But it’s stands to reason. If the president started getting a bit too tyrannical. Individual soldiers. And the military at large would disagree. / mutiny disobey orders. EG their duty Is also to the country they serve not just the one that sits behind the desk.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:29 PM

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yes exactly

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so we can assume that the pres is doing bare minimum. and the military hasn't really gotten involved. but like in GTA they are their to stop your rampage

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you are efectivle becoming a terrorist so if your going to casue masss destruction there needs to be a challenge to that

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i think police and military should innately work together. but there's no reason for them to turn on police right away

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:35 PM

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Agreed and let’s face it the player will have better weaponry and equipment that even super thugs and cops will struggle to deal with than makes sense that military units would they be dispatched with your idea or sub groups I like that I’d be nice to see some variance of soldiers a nice mediator between the two military police. Like their real life counterparts, they are seen patrolling military installations. Maybe even wearing a white helmet with black MP. Stamped on it instead of the cap. If you’ve been causing exceeding amounts of trouble they’ll be dispatched to key locations such as City Hall requiring you to have additional passes to enter the building but also being stationed in additional rooms along with patrols to make it just that bit harder

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:37 PM

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My english already is poor and your guys are making the hell of a text, i dont even know what are you guys going on about anymore

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:39 PM

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Simply put. Military is left alone.
Change Soldier to Merc.
Super cops are Pres Elite guard.
Military are used against the player to stop their rampage,

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cops are deterrants

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:39 PM

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zealous ice My english already is poor and your guys are making the hell of a text, i dont e...

No need to rush just take your time

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Yeah, we may have gotten a little carried away with it. I think we just like many people are really excited.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

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Facts.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

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sigh.... wdym cops deterrants i dont know what is "deterrants"

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

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cops are a way to stop the player from doing bad stuff. and be a challenge for low level play

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:41 PM

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Will cops act as a deterrent as in to stop you or at least make you reconsider about causing trouble

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:41 PM

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yes

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:41 PM

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nova rapids Simply put. Military is left alone. Change Soldier to Merc. Super cops are Pre...

Also, i think Merc wouldnt work, Roguebots seems to be like, Terrorist bots. I may be saying something dumb tho, probably Mercs and terrorists are something very different.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:41 PM

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or have to be more clever about a situation

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:42 PM

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zealous ice Also, i think Merc wouldnt work, Roguebots seems to be like, Terrorist bots. I m...

nah already a big differeance as one is a human and the other is a machine

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:42 PM

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The only thing im 100% sure, is that Roguebots are terrorists, probably because they have something agaisnt humans, i mean they are actively hostile agaisnt all humans.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:42 PM

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Honestly, I think mercenary would work quite well. As the president has hired them directly. And entice them with money, maybe even drugs. And the ability to do basically whatever they want as long as they serve him.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:42 PM

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Oh wait wait wait

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:42 PM

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every charecter can be a terrorist. And i think its the players story that they can "act" out. Min maxing needs to be ignored

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:42 PM

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chilly sparrow Honestly, I think mercenary would work quite well. As the president has hired th...

I think i misunderstood

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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zealous ice I think i misunderstood

Instead of like, Soldiers protecting the higher mayors as i suggested, you guys suggested Mercs. as like, a replacement to Soldier as bodyguards?

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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hmm...

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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nova rapids every charecter can be a terrorist. And i think its the players story that they ...

NPCs cant tho.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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thats why they are NPCs

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:44 PM

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Well, cannibals are probably considered terrorists.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:44 PM

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chilly sparrow Well, cannibals are probably considered terrorists.

I dont think they are anymore.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:44 PM

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they are just living their life.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:44 PM

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As iirc in SOR2 soldiers and cannibals arent rivals anymore

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:44 PM

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No I mean as in how they act they literally a group of people that terrorised civilians and causes general disorder so they probably would be considered a terrorist

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:44 PM

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they dont have higher goals like we do. were player one. were the main charecter. its OUR story.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:44 PM

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Awwwww that kinda makes sense that they would be hostile to each other.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:45 PM

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nova rapids they dont have higher goals like we do. were player one. were the main charecter...

My point still stands tho, i'd rather base myself on how the NPCs behave to determine such as "terrorist" or not.

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Of course the player is a terrorist with any character, he is the player after all

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:46 PM

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why not. they riot and shoot guns 2. not blowing up a whole city and doing drive by shootings. you can be a chef and do that

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:46 PM

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Exactly the choice is up to you we don’t have to go down the chaos route

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:47 PM

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nova rapids why not. they riot and shoot guns 2. not blowing up a whole city and doing drive...

I think i didnt understand what you said previously let me read again

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:47 PM

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a character is just a path goal. and some have a challenge added on or are meant to be OP in one way or another

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:47 PM

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nova rapids every charecter can be a terrorist. And i think its the players story that they ...

I'd rather if you rephrase that to "the PLAYER can be a terrorist", the NPCs cant.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:47 PM

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if they are not programmed to

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i have a counter point

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:48 PM

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Anyways i think we discussing something useless right now

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:48 PM

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if you play firefighter in SOR 1. slum dwellers will throw molotves at buildings for you to put out.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:48 PM

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Doesnt matter if NPCs are considered Terrorists or not just because the player can play as them.

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Doesnt really change anything.

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For the game

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:49 PM

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chilly sparrow Awwwww that kinda makes sense that they would be hostile to each other.

Hold on imma verify to see if they are still hostile tho, i may be wrong

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:50 PM

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I’m gonna counter argue there and say yes, that would bring something even if they’re not part of a particular group they’re their own unique and PC with their own unique behaviours a wild card for example the head himself even said he wanted to make the world as alive as possible

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:50 PM

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zealous ice Doesnt matter if NPCs are considered Terrorists or not just because the player c...

your not playing as them at all. if YOU chooses to be a homicidal shopkeeper thats YOUR choice. But regular people are jsut going to go about their day

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:50 PM

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nova rapids your not playing as them at all. if YOU chooses to be a homicidal shopkeeper tha...

Can we just STOP talking about that? i already said that argue is pointless

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its irrelevant

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:51 PM

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He is referring to the play style of us not an actual class or entity we could be considered a terrorist by causing general disorder so by our actions alone, we would be considered a terrorist if we kept blowing up buildings for example

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:51 PM

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the world and NPCS are just a backdrop

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:52 PM

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Ok i checked out here.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:52 PM

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terrorist's isnt a character

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:52 PM

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Idk if they added it now, if it was different from a previous demo

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but yeah cannibals and soldiers ARE hostile towards each other

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im honestly surprised how many factions are hostile to soldiers

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:53 PM

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same tbh

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:53 PM

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WHY ARE ALIENS HERE???

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:53 PM

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why not?

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:53 PM

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Well I suppose people with heavy weapons intruding on your personal lives and telling you what to do and what not to do people aren’t gonna like it

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:53 PM

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Hmmm.

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Im kinda unsure if that makes sense or not

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:53 PM

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it does

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Im not sure

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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zealous ice WHY ARE ALIENS HERE???

Why are gorillas in the game? Why are vampires in the game? Why are cultists in the game? Why are wher wolves in the game? It streets of rogue it doesn’t need to make sense. It’s just wacky fun.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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No dude

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now you completely misunderstood what i meant

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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chilly sparrow Why are gorillas in the game? Why are vampires in the game? Why are cultists in ...

facts

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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i meant why are aliens soldiers rivals

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soldiers are hostile to aliens lmao

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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becasue they arent from the same planet. they are invaders

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Well, they’re aliens they’re from another planet wouldn’t you be a little bit hostile towards them if you don’t know what their intentions are?

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:54 PM

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nova rapids becasue they arent from the same planet. they are invaders

for me that looks like racism

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just because they are not human they are a threat

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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And it could be a trope on classic alien movies of the 1950s as well. Where are you often saw aliens in the military fighting out

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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But ill not make a scene

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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chilly sparrow And it could be a trope on classic alien movies of the 1950s as well. Where are ...

Now that makes more sense

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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okay and what about a bear in your house. you racist toward the bear now?

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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nova rapids okay and what about a bear in your house. you racist toward the bear now?

its different, the bear is an animal

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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so are we

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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Alien in SOR2 are clearly conscious just like humans

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:55 PM

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a human IS an Animal

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so would an alien. be an animal

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:56 PM

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zealous ice Alien in SOR2 are clearly conscious just like humans

my bad, SOR2 and 1

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:56 PM

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intelligence is irrelevant. they could be hive mind. or like ants...

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:57 PM

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Nah

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i think i know

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Their ability, mind control

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imagine a guy comes up to you and starts controlling everybody from your city and starts making them kill each other

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:57 PM

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then yes absolutely a threat

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:57 PM

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zealous ice imagine a guy comes up to you and starts controlling everybody from your city an...

Now THATS a good reason for hostile soldiers

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:57 PM

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nova rapids intelligence is irrelevant. they could be hive mind. or like ants...

I love how you mentioned ants here...

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Ants casually starting a warfare with other ants species

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:58 PM

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its happens more often then you think

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:58 PM

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I know

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they are just small for us to notice

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:58 PM

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It does actually they’re quite hostile to each other

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:59 PM

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chilly sparrow It does actually they’re quite hostile to each other

Yeah uh... i know... thats the point of my sentence...

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'-'

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 10:59 PM

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I had already pressed enter before yours popped up

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:59 PM

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alright

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 10:59 PM

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Soldier should Be Merc 2025 - This guy

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 10:59 PM

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nova rapids Soldier should Be Merc 2025 - This guy

Tho are you referring to the playable character or the NPC?

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:00 PM

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playable

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:00 PM

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At the same time it makes sense it saddens me a bit.

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I find it funny and quite gratificating playing as a military dude.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:00 PM

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I don’t think it should be replaced because I quite like playing as a soldier too I don’t see a reason though why it can’t be an additional class there’s already quite a few what’s one more these plans to add more anyway

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:00 PM

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its the same thing. just your not APARt of the army force

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your a lone wolf

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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nova rapids its the same thing. just your not APARt of the army force

Not really.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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yes really

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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if you play as a Merc it doesnt make sense for you to have modern warfarer.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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thats the definition of a merc

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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which is a pretty nice trait for a gun based guy

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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Yes, it is most mercenaries actually usually are prior soldiers

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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prior soldiers? i dont understand a thing about the concept of mercs

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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Well, most mercenaries that in our privately employed used to be soldiers as they’ve had the experience

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:02 PM

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A mercenary is a special class if corrupt solider or a Private task force that specialize on above law actions

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Maybe the Playable Merc would just be like.

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Our good old playable soldier but he got tired of military bullshit

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Could be*

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:03 PM

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That’s basically more or less what a Merc could be

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:03 PM

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zealous ice Our good old playable soldier but he got tired of military bullshit

I got that idea because in his backstory, he wants to fight but there is no wars

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:03 PM

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The core difference between a mercenary and a soldier lies in their primary motivation: mercenaries are primarily motivated by payment, while soldiers are typically motivated by patriotism, loyalty, or other moral duties

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:03 PM

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That actually would be a good backstory for that class

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:03 PM

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I'd imagine he get mad because he has nobody to fight and leave the military

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:04 PM

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as the player you are always doing jobs

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making money

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:04 PM

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Maybe, if you run into soldiers while they’re not actually friends with you, they might drop a line are good to see you. It’s been awhile or something.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:04 PM

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you are a merc

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:04 PM

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chilly sparrow Maybe, if you run into soldiers while they’re not actually friends with you, the...

Thats nice

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Although they would be neutral.

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But can i be honest here? i dont think Matt will change playable soldier to a playable merc.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:04 PM

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yes start neutral unless you start messing with them

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:04 PM

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i think in the final product we will have playable soldier as it is

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:05 PM

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would have to ask him about the idea and see what he thinks. or he might just add it as another charecter.

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but based around his current lore it would fit nice

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:06 PM

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Personally speaking, I think it would work just as another character.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:06 PM

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Im not saying your idea is bad, but i dont think matt would see a reason to change him to a merc, BUT WHO KNOWS! maybe you could change him to a "new" character Gilipheoun.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:06 PM

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The soldier is one of my favourite classes to play. I wouldn’t want to see him removed entirely.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:06 PM

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I agree with this statement

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:06 PM

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chilly sparrow The soldier is one of my favourite classes to play. I wouldn’t want to see him r...

Really? i want him to stay but he is like, one of the classes is most hate

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BEFORE you say anything, the reason is not because he is bad.

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He is good... and thats the problem xD

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i got so good at SOR1 Soldier is like if i was playing in baby mode

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:07 PM

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i dont think he is bad at all. just idk... straightforward

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:07 PM

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just too easy to do anything.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:07 PM

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i mean we like shooty shooty bang bang

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:07 PM

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That’s exactly why he’s good every character feels a particular role or style the soldier is a good all-rounder and good for new players

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:08 PM

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For guns blazing i like much more Goon

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BQ demands your HP, basic gun instead of OP machine gun, good stats

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:08 PM

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and you would once you had a runthough with soldier looking for something more

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:08 PM

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still has kill ammunizer

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:08 PM

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nova rapids and you would once you had a runthough with soldier looking for something more

Exactly once you’ve gotten familiar with everything you can then start to fill out a different place style with another character

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:09 PM

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i like the mob now casue hes even easier than soldier IMO but now you get to boss people around and not boring generators lol

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Im repeating myself, i find him bad not because he is actually bad, he is good, the thing is that I, ME, got too good at the game to find him fun to play.

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But yeah soldier is a good character.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:09 PM

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zealous ice Im repeating myself, i find him bad not because he is actually bad, he is good, ...

ahh okay. yeah cause really just a personal thing

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we find someone we really like and roll with it

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:10 PM

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nova rapids ahh okay. yeah cause really just a personal thing

Yes? i think i made myself clear.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:10 PM

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zealous ice Im repeating myself, i find him bad not because he is actually bad, he is good, ...

There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s not a competition. And exactly the point. That’s when you move onto a new character and try something new.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:11 PM

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Thats why i said he is not bad, hes a nice character, especially for people who are not that good at the game (or games in general) and newbies that want to take the aggresive approach

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im thinking here about what Gili said about playable soldier replaced by playable Merc.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:12 PM

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im just thinking about story wise and would be interesting. cause the soldier as is just doesn't have much depth.
Merc makes him more interesting as a character. And being that one random soldier overthrowing the pres jsut seems flat

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:12 PM

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I'd say there would be very small changes.

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just two things: removal of modern warfarer (im not sure if this makes sense correct me if needed)

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And the other is pretty logic, machine gun replaced by the classic AK-47

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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no it stays thats the power of bieng good with healing yourself

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thats the survival skills

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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nova rapids no it stays thats the power of bieng good with healing yourself

Yeah nevermind i think it makes sense on his context

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i mean the job is about fighting all the time too

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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I made my own story for him, actually he got sick and tired of the presidents leadership and corruption so I took it upon himself as a guardian of the country along with these fellow soldiers to out him I actually took him out with a group of soldiers by my side actually sort of like a joint effort

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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it can start weaker though. and have you upgrrade it over the playthrough'

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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SOoo... basically the entire military rebelled against the president?

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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no just a group did

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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zealous ice SOoo... basically the entire military rebelled against the president?

Basically, I couldn’t take control of the whole military of course but that was my story behind it

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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chilly sparrow Basically, I couldn’t take control of the whole military of course but that was ...

Other military units were securing the city arresting the goons and so on

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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Good version you have there. I'll stick with what i thought of tho

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Its funny thinking like that: Soldier just gave up on military because no wars and he turned down to a Merc.

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"Grrr no wars? fack u [leaves]"

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:16 PM

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Well, not just wars maybe just got sick of military life. Sick of waking up early in the morning having to clean the toilet with his toothbrush commanding officer bossing around all the time decided to go into business for himself using the skills he learned

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:16 PM

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THe soldier himself is funny tbh

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I mean his backstory is basically: he is bored because he has nobody to fight, he has probably an awkward passion for war.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:17 PM

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That’s what I like about it though it’s wacky and stupid Matt wasn’t taking it really seriously

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:17 PM

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just like SOR does

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and its lovable.

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:17 PM

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It wasn’t an overcomplicated story. He’s a soldier. He likes guns. He got bored oh well let’s join the resistance and overthrow the president.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:17 PM

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theres no character that is full on seriousness, SOR has comedy and i love it

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:18 PM

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zealous ice theres no character that is full on seriousness, SOR has comedy and i love it

Exactly

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:18 PM

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chilly sparrow It wasn’t an overcomplicated story. He’s a soldier. He likes guns. He got bored...

And have fun while killing everybody, hooray!! :D

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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zealous ice And have fun while killing everybody, hooray!! :D

Where’s my human Gibb burger? 😂

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:20 PM

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chilly sparrow Where’s my human Gibb burger? 😂

Im suspecting you are a-

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Cannibal

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ALSO about the cannibal.

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How da f#ck in warzone they have such a precise aim for me, but when i play with him it looks like he has no experience with a gun?

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:21 PM

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Nooooooooo 👀

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:21 PM

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zealous ice How da f#ck in warzone they have such a precise aim for me, but when i play with...

The AI is in another level i swear to god-

chilly sparrow Mar 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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zealous ice How da f#ck in warzone they have such a precise aim for me, but when i play with...

Well, you gotta remember the AI have different stats compared to us and to be fair, they do have to have a bit of an edge over the player

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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not that they have different stats

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its just that as Machines they are well... more precise than we are. Probably guns are their highest advantage

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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zealous ice its just that as Machines they are well... more precise than we are. Probably gu...

in case AI to Human.

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AI: More precise to land bullest on use. downside: take an eternity to shoot and shoot slow.

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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im glad you guys started talking about the wacky side of things. cause yes I can agree that the vision was jut good ole fun.

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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Player: less precise on shots but makes a pistol machine gun 2.0

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:24 PM

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nova rapids im glad you guys started talking about the wacky side of things. cause yes I can...

where we're you? 🧐

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lol

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:24 PM

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feeding the pets

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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The only reason Cannibal keeps up with soldier power is cause his ability is OP asf

nova rapids Mar 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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anyways going to take a break from chatting. gunan think about it some more

zealous ice Mar 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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we've been mostly just chilling rather than talking about the suggestion this point over.

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About the politician, i think i'll just wait and see what will matt give him, i really dont have much ideas for that guy.

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anyways bye

chilly sparrow Mar 31, 2025, 6:16 AM

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Honestly, I think we’ve discussed this suggestion I think we’ve all given some pretty good options for it. Yeah, just been shooting the breeze.

zealous ice Apr 6, 2025, 9:22 PM

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@chilly sparrow

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@nova rapids

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guys, remember when @nova rapids had the idea of a terrorist replacing playable soldier?

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so, today i was messing around creating "Super" variants of the default characters just for fun, talking with chatgpt about it, ChatGPT gave me an excellent idea.

nova rapids Apr 6, 2025, 9:24 PM

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no? i said any player can become a terrorist based on playstyle. I wanted the soldier to be split or remade into a mercenary. I dont have time to chat now but i came up with something

zealous ice Apr 6, 2025, 9:25 PM

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nova rapids no? i said any player can become a terrorist based on playstyle. I wanted the so...

oh sorry if you we're busy, yeah i think i mixed the words mercenary and terrorist.

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But that doesnt really matter you get the point

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when you have time you tell the idea.

nova rapids Apr 6, 2025, 9:25 PM

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Cheers! yeah going out for a date for my Wifes B day. Take care!!

zealous ice Apr 6, 2025, 9:27 PM

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huh, wife? what is your age? not that theres anything wrong with it, SOR is peak.

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anyways you tell me later, cya.

nova rapids Apr 7, 2025, 12:47 AM

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@zealous ice 34. Anyways, i will probably post it separately tomorrow.

zealous ice Apr 7, 2025, 12:53 AM

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nova rapids <@1142970144528810094> 34. Anyways, i will probably post it separately tomorrow.

i think your almost the double of my age

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aight.

chilly sparrow Apr 7, 2025, 4:17 AM

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Never too old to enjoy video games. They’re such a fun way to relax. Specially after work. You can just get lost in another world and forget for awhile. Especially when it’s older games from your childhood

zealous ice Apr 7, 2025, 11:17 AM

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chilly sparrow Never too old to enjoy video games. They’re such a fun way to relax. Specially a...

Yeah i get that, i have nothing wrong with it

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its just an unusual situation, normally younger people like to play games, but its nice even older people can enjoy them

chilly sparrow Apr 7, 2025, 11:19 AM

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Actually seen many seniors starting to play there was one lady in her 60s that actually used to stream Skyrim till quite recently as she finished playing it and had a fun with it she was quite popular if I remember correctly

zealous ice Apr 7, 2025, 12:50 PM

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chilly sparrow Actually seen many seniors starting to play there was one lady in her 60s that a...

Nice

nova rapids Apr 7, 2025, 5:34 PM

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i posted my new suggestion

nova rapids Apr 7, 2025, 5:41 PM

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chilly sparrow Never too old to enjoy video games. They’re such a fun way to relax. Specially a...

ive been playing games my whole life. I just really enjoy it like you said.

chilly sparrow Apr 8, 2025, 2:54 AM

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nova rapids ive been playing games my whole life. I just really enjoy it like you said.

Exactly remember my first game being Spiro and Tony Hawke pro skater two on the PlayStation one been playing ever since

zealous ice Apr 8, 2025, 11:29 AM

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my start when i was little was with sonic games.

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i would play sonic 2d games 1 2 3 over and over and over again

chilly sparrow Apr 12, 2025, 12:27 PM

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i loved sonic heros on the ps2

zealous ice Apr 12, 2025, 7:03 PM

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i never played sonic heroes 3d

zealous ice Apr 12, 2025, 7:03 PM

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chilly sparrow i loved sonic heros on the ps2

I already played 2d tho. from sonic 1 to 2

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beeing honest here: i barely played any 3d games

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the only one i've played is the "worst" 3d sonic game.

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sonic 2006

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