hardware

[soft plume]

k thx for the help

[median marsh]

well that cpu is probably better than the 3rd gen i7 that served me for my first 2 unreal years

[foggy rampart]

I try to survive with my 4th gen Intel i5-4690K another year till the semiconductor's overproduction will happen 😄 Intel runs ok with 24gb Ram

[soft plume]

lol

[hoary urchin]

anyone have suggestions for monitors

don't need 4K 😛

[mighty patrol]

Linus tech tips discord is good for monitor talk. 😂

[soft plume]

what's your gpu?

[flat glade]

1440p + 144hz + IPS panel is so cheap these days

Just put in the numbers you want and buy something with decent reviews

That's what I would do at least

[turbid galleon]

So i am buying a ram is single rank better or dual rank better or quad rank better and did any changes in using unreal engine 5

[median marsh]

depends on the cpu

if your cpu only supports dual channel, it makes sense to stick to 2 sticks to keep place for further upgrades

oO

ryzen doesnt

[hoary urchin]

@soft plume 3080

@slate blade does not need to be super colour accurate, but i dont want it to be really bad. Also 120+ refresh rate is important.

will be used for both gaming and work, not super expensive as i would need to buy 2 of them 😛

not really bothered about ratio, but my current screens are 32inch

so 32/34 inch kinda region

i dunno really don't want to spend more than 1K for both

also thinking maybe i want 3 screens... i sometimes find myself wanting an extra screen 😛

[languid nexus]

God DAMN you're right... what a cancerous piece of shit invention! (And thanks for the info, btw.)

Sigh... I should have asked the vendor I got the laptop from instead of trying to search on my own. The real thunderbolt dock is apparently twice as big...

My boss is going to be very happy... fuck those things are expensive.

Guess I'll keep doing the ghetto thing of plugging the screen I want 3D on straight into the laptop and the second screen via the dock. 🤦‍♂️

[regal kite]

you running two GPUs or all your vouts from one card?

[errant peak]

I'm not certain I know your requirements, but did you look at the Monoprice Thunderbolt 3 DockingStation? I was in the market earlier this year for docks and found this to be the best compromise on price and feature.

[median marsh]

you could still throw in a cheap ass 2nd card

ok, cheap ass gets hard this times...

[midnight condor]

I am wondering if memory bandwidth matters for unreal engine dev work. Does anyone know if are there any engine compile time benchmarks or shader compile benchmarks at different ram speeds or quad vs dual vs single channel?

[median marsh]

well, a 1650 or slower would certainly do the job for most stuff

unless you want to span unreal across all screens

and not sure how well windows supports screens on multiple GPUs

[frank glade]

I sold my 1060, it was still pretty good even with UE5 and sensible settings

[frank glade]

I was running one 4k and two 1440p monitors 👀

[wind egret]

Unfamiliar with noctua. context?

[midnight condor]

Yeah I was wondering if the older Threadrippers like 2950x 1950x could still hold their own in unreal dev against the 3950 / 5950 thanks to their quad channel ram

[shrewd shard]

RAM won't really be an issue unless you're actively compiling things

Having a balance between singlethread/core count is best for UE

[soft plume]

cough cough extremly reliable cough cough

cough cough no intel favoritism cough cough

[flat glade]

I like UserBenchmark for figuring out if my PC has faulty parts vs other people

but for almost everything else it's really not a great test

[median marsh]

the 5950x has way higher boost speed than the 1950x

so for editor work the 5950x is pretty much the better choice

[midnight condor]

Yeah I think 5950x is a better choice for unreal dev versus 1950x, I want to do some benchmarks and see if engine compile times are memory bandwidth limited though

[unborn pike]

it's nice

though I wish I bought 64 GB memory

I only have 32 GB and I'm running out of pagefile (even though it is system managed) while compiling

[magic parrot]

What would be optimal choice for 5900x - ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING or ROG Strix X570-E Gaming?

[median marsh]

i can't complain about the ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

[magic parrot]

Is about 150usd more expensive, i would buy better power block if difference between them isn't much noticeable

[median marsh]

power block? Oo

you mean PSU?

[magic parrot]

oh yep sry

[median marsh]

idk much about the B550, so i can't tell you what the differences are

doesn't the B550 only have pci ex 3.0 link to the cpu?

[soft plume]

non b550 supports pcie 4gen

[median marsh]

https://www.gamersnexus.net/media/k2/items/cache/aac68d5be57c1b8af5efed09e2ce8bc2_XL.jpg

yea seems to be only pci ex 3.0

[soft plume]

strange

i found some pcie 4.0 b5 0mothernoaards

[median marsh]

so if you have a m2 on the 2nd m2 slot your link between chipset and cpu is already satisfied and it may throttle the 2nd nvme

i meant the link between cpu and chipset

[magic parrot]

Ye i have 2 nmves

[median marsh]

there is pci ex 4.0 from the cpu to the hardware slots on b550 tho, but thats something different

the 2nd m2 slot usually hangs on the chipset instead of direct connection to the cpu

so it shares bandwidth between cpu and chipset with all the other things like sound, network, sata, etc.

[magic parrot]

So Strix X570-E would be best choice?

[median marsh]

the better one for sure

also considering that the ryzen has a pretty decent TDP you don't need a crazy PSU

what gpu are you using?

[magic parrot]

RX5700

i now have chiefteck bronze 750w, i can keep it?

Or better to replace?

[median marsh]

yea

you can keep it

[magic parrot]

thanks 🙂

[median marsh]

also, what cooler are you looking forward to buy?

[magic parrot]

DARK ROCK PRO 4 i think

[median marsh]

i can recomment the SilentiumPC grandis 3 if it's available at your dealer

also saves you some cash

and considering test results, it isn't much "worse" than the expensive ones

[magic parrot]

ye, i have in shop one, its much cheaper, looks good, thanks

[median marsh]

i use it on a 5950x and with 100% load it reaches ~80°C (at ~24°C room temperature)

so that works for me

[urban sparrow]

So what about threadripper and RTX 3090? Will those work well with UE5?

[jagged hawk]

Hey guys, I currently have an i7-4770k with a gtx 1070 and 32gb ram. Was going to upgrade to ryzen 9 5900x, whole new pc basically... is it worth it to wait a few months for ddr5? are the new intel worth looking at or do you expect next gen ryzen will beat them again?

[frank glade]

New Ryzen will probably beat them. But you could wait for the new am5 platform, not sure exactly when next year

[astral musk]

Threadripper are fantastic but depending on what you are doing, they could be overkill

[urban sparrow]

Overkill you mean too much?

[half viper]

I have the 3950x with 64gb ram

Awesome

I only wish I got 128gb ram instead

[astral musk]

Yes. As in depending on what you do, you may not notice a huge speed increase for the extra costs. If you spend a LOT of time waiting on code or shades to compile, or do a lot of light baking it might be worth it

[half viper]

Incredibuild dude

That an you can set max fps to 3 an your shaders compile much much faster

[median marsh]

i don't see any benefit of a threadripper in normal workflow

just overkill

even the 5950x compiles the whole engine within 30 minutes

[half viper]

Yeah I have to manage my time so cutting load times in general is a boost in workflow

[median marsh]

yea but you can compile the engine in a lunch break 😄

and i never felt "blocked" by shader compiling

guess even the 5900x is more than enough for UE

[half viper]

Yeah 30 minutes is 30 minutes especially now baking lighting doesn't take hours

[median marsh]

the real benefit of threadripper is probably 256gb ram limit

which you can hit with really complex levels on light builds

[half viper]

Yeah I'm still upset about only having 64gb right now

Correct

[flat glade]

why bother with incredibuild? huh?

if you are on just one machine does it even do anything?

[soft plume]

if you can actually find some and have the cash for it then go ahead

[hasty lotus]

a little doubt, I have a very bad pc, and it is possible to turn a programmed one even with this super bad pc, it is a pentiun 2020m 2.40ghz, 6gb of ram, usable 5.5gb, and intel hd grafics

[soft plume]

i turned a super slow 2007 dual core pc in an ok one with linux

(still can't code with it but it's faster)

[regal iron]

I am building a new pc for unreal engine development,
I am a bit confused about which processer to choose.
which processer brand I should go with Intel or AMD and why?

[median marsh]

i would most likely still go AMD route because they consume less power

unless you plan to buy the top tier cpu there isn't much of a performance difference (and even then intel and amd seem to be pretty close)

[upper gazelle]

i own an i5 9400 and it still does well with shader compiling 😄

[soft plume]

llol

i used to run unreal on my i7-8565u laptop cpu and it was fine

[regal iron]

1. 90% use will be for Unreal Engine Development,
2. definitely,
3. I want to go with Laptop but I am not sure if it can give me good performance for unreal engine development.

[devout cove]

what might happen if I took the risk and installed unreal engine 4 on my PC ram 6gb and graphics GT 730 , I'm just learning i wanna work on unreal , everyone is telling me unity and I want to try unreal shall i take the risk ?

[wispy blade]

Hi All I have a vive from 2016, I have load my first VR test into it, the res quality is quiet poor, I was wondering what headsets people are using for arch viz stuff there are so many options out there it seems, any advice would be great

[wispy blade]

I am thinking the vive pro 2 would be a good upgrade as I want to use it arch viz walk around

[rain summit]

Looking for an SSD, you guys think a NVMe PCIe SSD is worth the price compared to a regular SATA SSD?
Gen3 or Gen 4, assuming you have both M.2 slots on your motherboard

[midnight condor]

You really need at least 16gb ram to do anything in unreal unless you stick to really tiny or mobile projects

[errant peak]

If you are getting NVMe M.2 and not an SSD M.2, it is totally worth it

All my drives on this computer are NVMe, and I noticed the speed bump over SSDs when I built it

Yeah a bit confusing by the phrasing

That is a good point

Most the gains are when copying or loading lots of data

FWIW, I did NOT see an increase in boot speed because my Motherboard seems to have some kind of timeout issue with NVMe

I would imagine more recent motherboards have sorted this issue out though

This is where I see the improvement

I bought my NVMe drives a few years ago. IIRC there was an SSD shortage or something

Price / availability of the NVMe made it a good target for the build

[rugged osprey]

I have a legion 7i, works pretty well

[dusk kite]

Actually, if you are on one machine with UE and VS it XGE will actually distribute the build across multiple cores even without a license, generally speeding up local build times. For most UE4 C++ work I find Incredibuild to be indispensable for teams over about 5 people. (Kind of a shame due to its cost, but well worth it given the time savings)

[rain summit]

Yeah, I'm trying to decide whether to buy SATA, PCIe 3.0, or PCIe 4.0.
I'd like to know if the performance benefits can justify the +30% more price of a PCIe 4.0.
Also PCIe 4.0 will block any future upgrades cause my motherboard only has one PCIe 4.0 M.2 slot and one PCIe 3.0 M.2 slot.

[dusk kite]

Absolutely. PCIe 3.0x4 or better will yield almost an order of magnitude improvement over SATA 3

It's really just a matter of can you spare the PCIe ports and is PCIe/NVMe cost prohibitive

[rain summit]

I read that it makes a minimal difference, and that the price isn't worth the PCIe 4.0
Cause sequential read/write mostly benefits large files, compared to random read/write

[dusk kite]

And whether you need large contiguous storage w/o RAID

Hmmm... interesting point....

When it comes to games, assets are VERY large, but it is true that the small files are slower...

The real question boils down to will you save enough time on the long reads/writes to warrant the price difference as the other time savings would be minimal.

My gut says yes, but I think it really boils down to how much you value your time. At $40/hr for instance, if you save 3-6 hrs over the life of the drive, it works out.

[rain summit]

Yeah, I was wondering just the real world usage/benefits of a PCIe 4.0 NVMe for UE
For example, I know the general consensus for PCIe NVMe for games is that it's definitely faster but it's not noticeable faster at all (by a second or so) and so it is not worth it for gaming

[dusk kite]

I mean, disk performance is only really noticeable when moving data around. This means when your app/game starts up, and when it saves to disk/loads dlc, etc. Most of the rest of the time there won't be any noticeable difference.

However, if you're like me -- not many people are -- and need to move around many different projects and engine versions on your PC or have lots of large assets to move around, the time savings will probably pay for itself many times over for the life of the drive.

Also important to consider though, the fact that you only have one PCIe slot left. That could be a deal-breaker for your situation.

(Note also that the time to move data only really applies if you're moving data between disks, not rearranging data on the same disk)

[devout pendant]

Hey everyone, I am currently building a pc and I'm planning to use unreal engine to make a game but im not sure what GPU or memory i should get to run it smoothly. Currently i have been looking at the rtx 3060ti 8gb vram, along with 32gb of ram. Would that be good for smooth usage, or should i try looking for different parts? I appreciate everyone who replies 😄

[rain summit]

I have a 5700 XT and 32 GB RAM, I've had no issues
Yours should be fine

[devout pendant]

Alrighty, i greatly appreciate it. Thank you!

[rain summit]

Yeah, I'm not too sure
I'm currently leaning towards the NVMe PCIe 3.0 , specifically the Corsair P5
It's about the same price as the SATA SSD but should be slightly faster

[worldly olive]

Can current nvme drives even saturate pci3?

[median marsh]

yes

samsung evo970 is pretty much at the pciex3 limit

the file system data rate is probably a bit lower due to protocol overhead

but with ~3.9 GB/s bus bandwidth, that's pretty much fine for every use case 😄

[median marsh]

seagate also makes harddisks with 2 hard disks in one 😄

so one disk reports as two to the system, no idea who came up with that idea

[flat glade]

Isn't that a RAID type? I forget which number?

[median marsh]

that one for example
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-lists-dual-actuator-hdd-exos-2x14

but honestly i would pick 2 separate drives in raid0 over one drive which operates as raid0

[magic parrot]

Is it ok for 5900x? What could be the reason? Even UE4 source compiling does not cause system lagging, but vscode sometimes freezes windows.

It starts when i edit code

Anybody had this issue with 5900x?

Alright, solved, this caused freezes

[mighty patrol]

Threadripper vs ryzen 5950x for game dev?

[median marsh]

and what kind of gamedev

[soft plume]

we will never know

[soft plume]

l o l

[median marsh]

well it's a first gen threadripper

[shrewd shard]

10C/16T

[wind egret]

12600K, has 6+4 cores (12+4 threads) probably

[ember cobalt]

is that normal

I am taking that as a no

[ember cobalt]

occasionally it will read like 50 MHz, then jump to 11000 MHz, then down to 200 MHz

[royal aspen]

5 years is a lot of years

What is the math with 10c16t?

[median marsh]

6 cores that can do hyperthreading, and 4 that can not

[royal aspen]

ah its one of those big little ones?

[median marsh]

yes

also boost speed of the i5 is like 20% more

so that may compensate for the lack of threads/cores

[royal aspen]

I went from a 3970x to a 5950x then back to a 3970x and i miss the faster processing for anything that isn't houdini

[median marsh]

why did you downgrade?

[royal aspen]

I had a new samsung 980 pcie4 completely fail on me

and was easier to jump back to a working computer, then started doing houdini stuff

will get back to the 5950x

[royal aspen]

completely is a strong word but it put itself into read only and reports more bad sectors than i'm willing to wait populate

[median marsh]

bad luck, did it at least fail early and you had backup?

[royal aspen]

it actually seems semi popular, something about the 980 pros

i upload to svn a lot so didn't lose much important stuff

the thing that is good but also sucks is that most ssd's go into read only mode when they fail

which might help you pull some data off but also makes it so you can't really wipe the drive for rma

[median marsh]

encryption!?

today's cpu's have AES instruction sets, which makes it perform well with low cpu usage even for high transfer rates

[mighty cosmos]

I currently have 4 of the Samsung EVO ssds, can't remember which ones exactly and all of them have been working fine for a few years now 🤷‍♂️

[median marsh]

if im not wrong samsung is pretty much one, if not the biggest, producer for the flash chips, so if anyone should know how to build them, then it's them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flash_memory_controller_manufacturers#Largest_NAND_flash_memory_manufacturers yea according to that, almost 1/3 of the market is from samsung (at least for NAND, but guess it's pretty much the same across the types)

[frail stream]

if u are on windows 11 say thanks to microsoft

[soft plume]

windows 11 s u c c

[tidal rover]

Ya It sucks

I didn't like it at all

I dropped back to windows 10

[soft plume]

i'm on arch linux

[golden dirge]

Scheduler was upgraded to make use of performance and efficiency cores

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16959/intel-innovation-alder-lake-november-4th/2

[median marsh]

it probably more makes a difference when not all cores are utilized

in terms of power usage, which is especially important on mobile devices

[foggy rampart]

so Core i9-12900K or AMD
Ryzen 9 5950X? Has anybody tested new intel in UE? I watch out good deals, maybe black Friday will not suck this year.

[frank glade]

@foggy rampart https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Unreal-Engine-12th-Gen-Intel-Core-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5000-Series-2249/

[flat glade]

I think I'm going with an i9-12900K

unless this pugetsystems bench is bullshit it seems like a bit more of an effective buy

no way in hell I'm getting ddr5 ram though

holy shit it's expensive

[frank glade]

I'm also looking at the 12900K however I think the new ryzens are coming early next year

[flat glade]

aaaaaaagh

and not to mention my mobo will be locked in at ddr4

[foggy rampart]

5nm, AM5, DDR5, PCI-5...

5 everywhere

[flat glade]

not according to that pugetsystems benchmark

it's definitely better bang for buck though

wait, I misread it omg

you are correct

😔 another classic Megafunk misread

I have no particular reason to stick with intel

[frank glade]

But isnt single thread performance better? For all other apps as well

[flat glade]

yeah, it's definitely better for gaming on the side

We don't have an exact date for when these chips are going to land, although given the 3D V-Cache chips are going to be released at the start of the year, we can probably expect Zen 4 and AM5 to drop between July and November in 2022. https://www.pcgamer.com/amds-am5-platform-will-support-ddr5-and-pcie-5-at-launch-in-2022/

an entire year is pushing it...

for anything workstation related moar cores always wins

https://i.imgur.com/CyowSGhg.jpg

omg, preview it

sheesh

[frank glade]

what about graphics workstation but you're not doing renders 😋

[vestal prawn]

sup
anyone knows of a good software to have control over 2 mice cursors?
Im currently using MouseMux, but its a bit choppy

[kindred dagger]

Hello, what would be the best laptop cpu right now for Unreal? Would the I9-11900h be a good choice? Or maybe, is it better to wait?

[worldly lagoon]

I'll get a new laptop when it's running some improved DDR5 memory

depends if you can wait that long

might not even be next year

[kindred dagger]

I can wait a bit

Thanks

My laptop work well, but when I work with C++ and Unreal sometime it's a long compile time...

[flint wave]

how long does it compile?

[midnight condor]

if you have a 4 core laptop one of the 8 core ryzen or new intel laptops would be a big upgrade

[kindred dagger]

My actual cpu is a i7-8750h. Compile time it's around a minute. but there are plenty of times when even the writing code in visual is very laggy

[sharp pumice]

My pc performance is plunging when I open my project and I decided to invest in my rig. I'm thinking about new Motherboard and finally switching to DDR4 (I'm still using ddr3), any recommendations on that two parts? When I googled "PC rig for UE4" most of the setups included AMD cpu and Nvidia GPU, is that a thing for UE4 or just a concidence?

[kindred dagger]

some recommendations here : https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Unreal-Engine-200/Hardware-Recommendations

[kindred dagger]

Link update : https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Unreal-Engine-12th-Gen-Intel-Core-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5000-Series-2249/

The results is almost the same.

[soft plume]

yayyyy

finally i got a gaming pc

goodbye old integrated graphics laptop

[flat glade]

post your specs sir

[soft plume]

nzxt stater pro bld kit

11400f - 16gb ram - 3060 ti - 1tb nvme ssd

[median marsh]

wonder how they measure minecraft performance oO

highest settings?

[soft plume]

i guess?

[median marsh]

i mean, it's nice that NZXT shows the performance of their kits, but they should also tell which settings where used

[soft plume]

well

if they don't max out thier settings

there is some performance warraty

thatif you get ~-10% they ship you another one

so i don't why they wouldn'tmax out the settings

[frosty ore]

looks stable

[timber cobalt]

@devout pendant do you have some HDD recommendation btw?

[frosty ore]

Barracuda 7200RPM imo

[timber cobalt]

yeah I have older WDs, but soon I need some new one to my NAS

nice :D

I am just realised how little I know about HDDs. SMR is a storage technology as I see. After reading its wiki, basically it is higher overall capacity, but slower?

[timber cobalt]

great to know, thanks!

[flint wave]

my c++ compiletime is about 18-20s with an amd 5900x

[median marsh]

my recommendation is to not go with recommendations

i had chairs where my back hurt after few hours sitting on them, while others are so comfortable that it's hard to get me up 😄

yea i could imagine that my chair wont even work for you while it perfectly fits me with ~180

your shoulders wouldn't be supported on it, which probably raises problems on the long term

maybe find a dealer close to you and talk with him about return options if the chair makes trouble for you

really depends on you, i often switch position and some of them are nothing you would see on an chair advertisement picture 😄

and those "side supports" that most "gaming chairs" have are contra productive in that case

they may be nice in a car to stop you from sliding around in corners, but idk about office space 😄

[wet ore]

I went down this road. We are the same height.

This chair really shouldn't be comfortable, but after 8 months I haven't been having the back pains I used to have. I could never find a ergo chair that was comfortable. This chair is definitely on the firm side but I feel like that has actually helped relive pain. but mixed with a hand crank sit/stand desk (which I don't use as much as I should) I can vouch for this. the weight limit didn't matter to me but at the time it was on sale compared to the regular, my only complaint with it is the resistance for leaning back is next to 0, so you will fly backwards, and can't easily half lean, but I've had it locked upright for almost all 8 months, I really think it's helped with my posture. I think one of the mods here has this chair also

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TQ7PKWN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M8F9IYC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KWP8VF6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

[flint prism]

I think my 3tb file drive is dying (and is almost full), possibly my other backup drive but I havent done any testing yet, been hearing the telltale noises of a dying drive for a a while now tho. Computer is on 24/7 so I'm wondering if a NAS drive would be worth a little extra money...

[flint prism]

4TB IronWolf NAS HDD, SATA III w/ 64MB Cache -- Suitable for UE4/5 Dev? also as a main file storage drive?

yup, my 3TB drive failed a Short DST

crap

[magic parrot]

Does this temps look ok?

Problem is CPU load only 20% but temp is 80C

its cuz of vents rotation settings curves?

[wet ore]

80c is too high for me, most software (corsair icue, evga precision x1, ect) will go 100% or trigger the warnings at 80-85c. in terms of flight sim, it takes a lot of configuring to get it running how you want

wow nice I didn't know it's rated for 100c, always thought 85-90 was the cap

ha wow thats crazy, yeah I've always stuck with AIO cpus coolers and gpus

well not always but in recent years

[median marsh]

i have two of them with ~150 days power on time and 0 reallocated sectors in some system at work, so they seem fine. but for unreal dev work i would really go for an SSD

[flint prism]

An ssd would be great but i dont have the money. I do have a 500gb ssd i could shift files around for ue4

Picked up the ironwolf, but will be a while before i can install

[devout pendant]

Mmmm, SSD

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08P2CG4JK/ref=ox_sc_act_image_6?smid=A2ELBRY1PH9SPX&psc=1

[polar sphinx]

maybe its just your sensitivity settings xD

[kind talon]

Useful guide for anyone new to building a PC, explains in a clear and concise manner what each part is and why it's useful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjVAOc-HfN8

[forest sparrow]

can you load virtual machine inside our game

i want to load an os inside my game so i can interact with it

[soft plume]

i think making an ui that imitates an os would be easier

[forest sparrow]

i am trying to build a vr simulator

so, the exe application needed for the same i already have it making a an ui that imittates an os would be time consuming, i dont have a lot of time . i am looking into ways this can be done

[median marsh]

^^

also i don't know how this is hardware related

[flint wave]

think you really have to try them out

razor ones have been nice

[soft plume]

for instance linux kernel is something like ~10gb

so that's 10gb of your game wasted for something that could have take nothing

players are not gonna like this

and you would literally need to embed also a virtual machine in your game

you would really be better to go off by imititating an os

[fickle vessel]

I swear by my steelcase leap 2. Got it from a refurb company for $800, and it still has a 12 year whole chair warranty. It's not lounge chair comfortable, but it is "Sit in it for 8 hours and not feel like death" comfortable.

Depending on your physique, "Comfortable" chairs can murder your lower back long-term. My back isn't strong enough to hold posture, so an ergonomic chair means I don't get sore or tired just from sitting

[odd hatch]

can anyone tell me how I'm supposed to move everything to a new hard drive I got? currently trying Macrium Reflect and it says the sector size is incompatible

[median marsh]

i've good experience with acronis true image (iirc some harddrive manufacters ship with a license for that)

[elder cipher]

In linux, you can dd

dd if=/dev/<old-drive> of=/dev/<new-drive> status=progress and then watch it go…

[median marsh]

that's only helpful if the size is almost exactly the same

and at least the size of the source drive

and if a noob runs that command, he may just erase his disk...

as you can't guarantee that the old drive is sda and vice versa

[elder cipher]

Not necessarily. You can dd a smaller drive onto a larger drive and then use gparted to make adjustments.

And yeah, no, I just choose random device names. You would definitely need to confirm devices in advance.

Of course, to avoid issues with partition tables and all, I would create a new partition on the new drive with the same sector size as the old partition, and then just dd the individual partitions.

[elder cipher]

Better safe than sorry, I agree. Very well, I concede.

[mellow galleon]

i usually use acronis disk director. since it is one-time thing can just use trial for a month and uninstall after copying / resizing drives after a day or two

[odd hatch]

So can I just clone the entire drive with that and then boot from the new one?

[mellow galleon]

yup

well, i never did boot partition clone myself (only normal partitions). technically should work as long as it is same type (windows won't let you boot if you copy OS from hdd to ssd) or some secureboot or uefi lock
google acronis docs for more info on boot partition clone

[odd hatch]

So what if I'm trying to copy my ssd to an nvme?

[mellow galleon]

it will simply bsod on boot

i did try it few days ago 🙂

[odd hatch]

So I should just reinstall and then move all of my program files or something?

[mellow galleon]

you can simply unplug old ssd. mount nvme.
install windows (it will create 3 partitions - 2 system 1 with os)
plug old ssd - copy data needed like AppData etc
boot from nvme

just make sure that during install you have only nvme drive present

it is super annoying

I AM SPEED now

finally upgraded from 9yo pc

[quartz sequoia]

I think win 10 is way better performance-wise

[polar sphinx]

win 11 lags look like bsods

lmfao

[mellow galleon]

does anyone know if it is possibility of hw failure if 3.3 and 5v busses under needed values.
under load 3.3 goes down to 3.20 and 5v goes down to 4.9v

could it be faulty psu?

12v is stable

[polar sphinx]

you probably should contact the manufacturer customer support xD

[median marsh]

no, that's within the range

(min = +2.98 V, max = +3.63 V)

[odd hatch]

If I'm moving data to a new hard drive, should I just reinstall the programs I have and then move their data, or should I paste the whole program files from one location to the other?

[median marsh]

if you are moving the whole drive everything should work afterwards

[odd hatch]

I'm actually not moving the whole drive, though. Turns out windows recovery just kinda doesn't work with my NVME

I could probably just do a new install and then manually move all of my documents and such, right?

[pine wedge]

picked up an aya neo and seeing my project running on a handheld is surreal

[median marsh]

that's running which OS? Windows?

[pine wedge]

windows 10

[odd hatch]

Hey, so it looks like as I go to install windows on a new hard drive, it has an option to migrate files. Does this work from one drive to another, by chance?

[timid coral]

Hello, anyone has any knowledge in building a new pc without a case? I want to stich my mobo on the wall and let it open without any other case

[errant peak]

There actually wall mount cases for this purpose

They are basically a board to mount the parts and a sheet of clear plastic you mount over that

Looks like I'll need to buy a new case soon. The glass on my Corsair case shattered the other day and they don't make it anymore.

It's only 2 years old! Don't think I'm buying a Corsair case again.

[timid coral]

Thx, so only cons would be noise levels and dust. I want no case, only some threaded rods that will hold the mobo and power supply.

[errant peak]

The wall cases are essentially that

They are still open air on 4 sides

I don't know if it's any good, but here's one of the wall mount cases I was thinking of
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Tempered-Panoramic-Wall-Mount-CA-1G4-00M1WN-06/dp/B07BFGB8Z6/ref=asc_df_B07BFGB8Z6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309818716690&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16844917190802547068&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029671&hvtargid=pla-493963828268&psc=1

[timid coral]

Yeah but you see the plastic in front

[frank glade]

I dont think dust will be a big issue, if you can spray some canned air once every few months it will be pretty clean

[serene scaffold]

Intake and have good cable mangement to allow easy exit

I have the modular thermaltake case and it has a big ass intake with no exhaust

[median marsh]

no, you basically kill the whole airflow that a case gives, which keeps components cooled down

also Electromagnetic Comptability

[serene scaffold]

Mineral oil fish tank or bust

[wind egret]

humidity controlled argon pressure chamber

[serene scaffold]

You win this round 😤

[golden dirge]

I only wanted the best PC gaming had to offer so I took 32 gibbibytes of RAM and oil cooled it

[elder cipher]

Not 96GB? 😜

[golden dirge]

No, 32 is a square number, and 96 would just overheat my PC. I was able to get a 3080 and that adds at least 16GB RAM power anyway, and there's always downloadmoreram.com

Nah I will get 64 next time, probs DDR5 since this build is quite fresh still, and DDR5 is mad expensive RN.

[elder cipher]

96 doesn’t overheat my machine 🤔 - and I don’t even have cooling on the ram. My projects in the past have required almost 75% of that.

[golden dirge]

Ah I'm being pretty sarcastic!

What ended up using that much RAM, just the editor + VS?

[elder cipher]

I do a bit of video editing on the side. SolidWorks also likes to eat up ram.

[golden dirge]

Ah yeah video editing is mad RAM hungry. Valley of the Ancients killed my PC for whatever reason, not sure if it was out of RAM or VRAM.

[dusk peak]

Anyone familiar with M2 drive installation in BIOS? Making room for UE5.

It shows up in windows, I was able to format it. But when I select boot options. It does not show up in BIOS. I installed Linux on it.

UEFI is active. I noticed problems when Linux didn't offer the dual boot option like it normally does. Then I searched the BIOS and it doesn't have a boot option at all. But it does show up in the BIOS hdd list.

Not sure. Whatever the default choice was when I formatted the M2. I followed a tutorial, no issues.

What I'm not sure of. Is this a Linux issue or a BIOS issue?

I'm thinking it's a BIOS issue as I had zero issues dual booting with two different hard drives prior.

The Linux install option for dual boot was not present with the M2.

Legacy is not active.

Unfortunately I can't look up the partition from Windows to Linux. It shows the whole m2 drive as full from Windows. I was able to force a m2 boot from the BIOS menu into Linux, everything inside there seems normal.

Healthy partition, all used up shown from Windows.

Windows will report how Linux was installed in Disk Management?

So that sounds like a BIOS issue then.

It's not just this PC. Both PCs had trouble finding the M2 drive in the BIOS.

One is win10, and the other is win7. One is brand new. The other is 8700k.

I plugged it into the correct 2280 slot.

No problems at all using it in Windows. The problem was it showing up in BIOS. It was missing.

I had an M2 option in the new Motherboard. It is greyed out in the old motherboard. I'll have to attempt a BIOS update... But I'll need to upgrade to win10 for the BIOS driver.

So before any BIOS stuff. Reformat with a EFI partition?

Does there need to be an EFI partition in my primary SSD? Or can it be in the M2 for dual booting?

So... reformat the M2, add an EFI partition. Then reinstall Linux. The dual boot option should pop up this time?

It's Mint. Zero issues doing this on regular hard drives/SSDs.

I could also install Win10 on the M2, then do Linux. It's got room to spare.

[dusk peak]

Created EFI Partition. I'll try a fresh Linux install again and see if that fixes it. Thanks for the help!

[wind egret]

fans aren't big enough

[median marsh]

can you define which cores an application can use?

[tired gyro]

so does iPhone XR support Live Face/True Depth?

[royal aspen]

Says XR on the bottom there

[tired gyro]

didn't see that thanks

[errant peak]

Anyone have a recommended full ATX case with transparent side and front panels and good cable management?

[royal aspen]

Phanteks (PH-EC500ATG_DBK01) Eclipse P500A high Airflow Full-Metal mesh Design, ATX Mid-Tower, Digital-RGB Lighting, 140mm D-RGB case Fans, Tempered Glass, Dual System Capable, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088T3VMKK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_ZYPMD4XDAF6N559KR7WH

But the lian li o dynamic xl or whatever is also good

Phantek has the best cable management system I’ve seen though. Everything was organized and almost no rivets. Can unscrew the case entirely (which is needed to install a 420mm) but after bending a case that was riveted it was so nice

[errant peak]

Oh nice

It is funny how much a difference there is between cheap cases and well constructed cases

Cheap cases have the sharp metal that inevitably results in loss of blood when swapping parts.

[royal aspen]

If you go dynamic xl don’t use air cooling. It’s not for that, but the phanteks would do fine

[royal aspen]

Yeah the one I bent was a Msi case

[errant peak]

Ah, I tend to be air cooled for my builds

Bad experience with poorly designed liquid cooled parts once

[royal aspen]

I have had nothing but good luck with aio but haven’t tried any open loop before

I’m glad I didn’t get one of those enermax tr coolers that corrode tho

[errant peak]

I was using an AIO. It had a poorly designed CPU valve that blew out when temps went high enough

I know it was a design flaw because it happened twice

(on 2 different computers)

[royal aspen]

Darn

[errant peak]

The manufacturer paid to replace all the parts though

[median marsh]

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/images/cdn01/4A00C030C33B432F8C0149F7F9733941/img/33EF767F06E24049A98F41318E1ACBAE/be_quiet_Pure_Base_500DX_16_33EF767F06E24049A98F41318E1ACBAE.jpg

that would probably be my pick, if i wouldn't dislike the missing electromagnetic insulation from the glass

bequiet 500dx ^

[serene scaffold]

pro tip, only hook up the r pin 🔴

[median marsh]

r-pin? the front panel is RGB, so you can control it with your mainboard if it has the connector for it

[serene scaffold]

yeah, just for red

[median marsh]

pro tip, don't connect it at all

[serene scaffold]

even better!

https://tenor.com/view/woo-dance-dancing-celebrate-gif-18613546

[obtuse rapids]

I know it's minimal for actual gaming performance (compared especially to other changes like cpu, gpu, ssd) but does memory clock speed make any noticable in development? My specs says "2DPC 2R Max speed up to 4000+ MHz" - but if I'm using 3000 , would I even notice moving to 4000, or 3600mhz?

[serene scaffold]

maybe for after effects work or something where ram is constantly accessed

[median marsh]

only thing where unreal eats through memory like crazy is light baking

also memory speed isn't only dependent on clock speed

[obtuse rapids]

I know the other factors like your CPU cache

[serene scaffold]

Gpu is good for unreal but yeah, cpu is always the most important, hence the name

And therefore mobo

[median marsh]

i meant memory timings/latency

[obtuse rapids]

What would you recommend? I'm using an i9 10850k , chipset is z490

It came with 32 gigs but I wanted to have 64 - between also using premier and blender, etc I've used 32 in the past but I've seen windows tap into my page file at that - I know I could probably tweak the page file settings so it never did that but I've been told not to do that

[odd hatch]

I installed windows on a new hard drive and basically lost all of my settings. Is there a list or guide for default windows settings that should be changed for games and stuff?

[midnight condor]

there are no settings that need to be changed for games it is all personal pref

[odd hatch]

Uh I'm sure power save settings affect game performance

That and your communication settings interfere heavily with things like Discord

[serene scaffold]

dont forget your antivirus, that thing is pointless 👺

[median marsh]

i can't recommend anything sorry, feels like you need a doctor degree to buy memory these days

i've just picked some from my mainboards compatibility list 😄

[limpid copper]

Looking for a new cpu cooler for my i7 9700k, pref. 15cm (5,9 inch) or lower in height, budget's 80-90 USD.
I saw the Cryorig C7 but I feel like I could get a better one so stumbled upon the Be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 but it's slightly too tall. Any suggestions?

[median marsh]

SilentiumPC Grandis 3

[tribal grove]

Hey does someone know why my RAM and Graphic Card 3060 RTX Performance suddenly goes to Max when i click on Content Browser , corsair vegance 16gb , the funny is my old Pc 8gb Ram has never the same Issue or is this a 4.27.2 issue

[serene scaffold]

like literally when clicking in the content browser or when you are in that interface (world outliner, place actors, etc.)?

[tribal grove]

Thanks for reply Conrad , here on the Picture in these Field , with my old Pc i open many Windows and it doesnt Uprising my Gpu or Ram value so much

[serene scaffold]

and above this, is your viewport?

or for example, if you click on your world outliner your pc doesnt crank out?

[tribal grove]

No world Outliner doesnt affect it so much , i click on it

[serene scaffold]

so your viewport, what if you dont have it

like, nest your world settings or output log window or something so you get multiple tabs with your viewport

[tribal grove]

Yes my BP and another Window with Animation Editor

[serene scaffold]

yeah but, dont show the viewport

like how you say when you switch to the other tab at the top its not as bad

nest another window within your viewport (i think you have to click the little yellow corner arrow - top left - to tab it)

[tribal grove]

Ok i have close it , nothing Change if i click on the Content Browser it still Crank Out , its funny because i havent these problems with my Old PC

and i open 10 Windows together

[serene scaffold]

hmmm

my guess was any 3d viewport would crank it, maybe the thumbnails are "expensive"

on your old pc did you maybe set scalability different?

[tribal grove]

No i doesnt change anything since i use the 4.27 version after i upgrade to 4.27.2 these problems appear

[serene scaffold]

ah thats wacky then

and you dont have two engines running right 😉

[tribal grove]

And then if the Ram or Gpu are on Max it Freezing and close Unreal engine without a Crash report pup up Window

[serene scaffold]

ive pretty much exhausted all of my "IT" troubleshooting ideas

something aint right though

and it seems like the upgrade either has something more expensive running or shits whack yo

[tribal grove]

Yes i really weird i search everything and some issue are be present in the Net about 4.27.2 Version . If i play my Game in the Standalone or Pie the Value goes down

[serene scaffold]

hmm, really haven't a clue, im still on 4.26

was there something essential in 4.27.2 for you?

[tribal grove]

I transfer my old Projects to the new and i have on Start failure to load some Reference of my Assets maybe i must Migrate my Project .

[serene scaffold]

i guess you can test a fresh new project in 4.27.2 to see

raytracing as a setting comes across my mind, but its a random thought

[tribal grove]

Ok you think because i have a RTX 3060 with raytracing , i will try to fix it today with many Options Migrate and else , thanks Again i will write here back later whats was the issue for these conflict.

Thanks again Conrad

[serene scaffold]

hope it goes well ✌️

[tribal grove]

Hey Conrad thanks it was how you expected ,for everyone who step in this problem, i solve the issue yet it was the View Options and Turn off Thumbnail Realtime

[opaque pond]

Would a gtx 1060 3gb be good for UE dev?

[median marsh]

depends on the kind of game you want to make

3gb isn't much when it comes to textures

gpu speed should be sufficient for most dev tasks

would rather try to get hands on an 1660 with 6GB

[opaque pond]

its much more expensive uhhh @median marsh

[soft plume]

either wait for the prices to get to normal or pay the extra

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-192-bit-Graphics-ZT-T16600K-10M/dp/B07XV7FNR2/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=1660&qid=1639955593&sr=8-3

seems to be a similar price than the 1060 3gb

[opaque pond]

I am looking at a used 1060 for 150€

A used 1660 super is about 400€

And a new 1660 super is 640€

[frank glade]

I sold my 1060 6gb for exactly 150E

[serene scaffold]

Dont forget to max your storage and psu 👺

[serene scaffold]

I have two 16GB RAM sticks and I have four RAM slots. Could I put two 32GB RAM sticks in the other two? These would be identical RAM sticks (same manufacturer, speed, etc.) just different size. I'd like to upgrade to more RAM but I don't see it necessary to swap it all out for 4x32GB as this PC maybe has another year or 2 before I plan to build a new one. Maybe I should just grab 2 more 16GB sticks?

[elder cipher]

Yes. I have 2x 16 and 2x 32 running on my machine for a total of 96GB. (Same speed)

[serene scaffold]

i heard its best to have all the same, but i also hear many ppl with this sort of mixture and assume there is no difference - though i remember reading that the speed it is the same as if they were all the same

[minor veldt]

It's one of those things that should work but sometimes doesn't, depending on the quality of the motherboard I think. I've seen 4x sticks that work in any pair and in any RAM slot, but with all four it would not boot until I got a new motherboard.

[elder cipher]

Speed should be the same for all sticks. Otherwise the machine / CPU will select the lowest speed.

Your CPU / Motherboard must also support multi-channel ram. Most modern motherboards do.

[serene scaffold]

that sounds kinda vague, can you clarify? the ram im looking at is literally the same in every spec besides the size

[serene scaffold]

not quite what i mean. the speeds of both RAM would be the same and my mobo would be using the highest speed for them

i meant that they are different sizes

[elder cipher]

Right, no, I mean if you were to mix 1600 ram sticks with 1800 ram sticks, the system would default to 1600 speed and your 1800 sticks would miss out on performance. This is why it is generally not good to mix different speed sticks.

[serene scaffold]

yeah thats not what i mean

[serene scaffold]

i mean that since the gb sizes are different wouldnt there be some difference in read speed? both would be the same ddr4 3200

[elder cipher]

No, not if your cpu/motherboard supports multi channel ram.

[serene scaffold]

im not sure of this term, it has four slots and afaik with this mobo, there is no particular arrangement needed (such as odd and evens)

[elder cipher]

Usually if you have four slots, the channels are arranged ABAB. You would stick your 16G sticks in A and your 32G sticks in B or visa verse.

[serene scaffold]

right right, ill double check my mobo manual, but i remember that not being a thing (was kinda surprised so im going to check again) but that sounds like it wouldnt be any kind of issue since its 2 and 2 sticks

[elder cipher]

Some boards it is not. Most modern boards it is though.

[serene scaffold]

yeah

[serene scaffold]

now one more question

this is mainly for shits and giggles, but if i have these 2x16 ram sticks, what about grabbing 2x64 sticks 😆 (EDIT: Lol wait, i dont think they make those)

[minor veldt]

I'm saying that RAM compatibility is (or at least was) sensitive. That's why motherboard manufacturers put out spec sheets listing supported memory sticks down to the product SKU number. It's all "should work" type of stuff, but the more fancy you get the more likely something is to fail. Fancy here means any combination of higher clock speeds, tighter timings, more modules, and variations between sticks. The listings even separate 2x from 4x or a particular memory stick and can allow 2x but reject 4x even if the actual sticks themselves are identical.

Higher-end motherboards tend to handle variation better then lower-end boards. The system I described was a first-gen Ryzen, which was notorious for RAM compatibility issues. They fixed it in later revisions so maybe I'm more concerned than I should be when dealing with more modern hardware, but I only ever buy stick packs approved by the motherboard manufacturer.

[elder cipher]

Depends… is it worth the investment? Will you be selling them when you go to do your next build? Will your next build support the same generation ram (DDR4 vs DDR5)?

[serene scaffold]

no i know there's those ramifications, its merely a question about compatibility

[elder cipher]

lol

[serene scaffold]

or say, 2x8 gb and then 2x32 gb

like its a big gap

2x4gb and 2x32gb, something wacky like that

[elder cipher]

The different channels allow for different ram sizes, so you could technically do 2GB on one channel and 64GB on another if your really wanted to. All the sticks in a single channel must match though (eg 2x64 and not 1x32+1x16)

[serene scaffold]

thanks for the note, i do have a Ryzen (cant recall which generation, so im going to check into that) and the RAM is from an approved list which can be 2 or 4, partially why i got these which was to decide if i wanted to upgrade to more later, and although the different sizes are listed, there's no info in the manual about different sizes at all

[serene scaffold]

ofc ofc, its always 2 by 2

or just a lonely 1 🙃

well thanks for the input, just wanting to see from ppl who have different sized ram

i figure it would probably work, ibbles your point is clear and thats part of my questions since ive heard its not good to to this, but this is also past knowledge, and also hear people with non-square ram counts like 40gb or 96gb or whatever

[elder cipher]

Yeah, again I have one channel of 2x32 and the other with 2x16. I would have gone all four as 32 but the build was already getting beyond my original budget.

[serene scaffold]

yeah, that's where im between

dont want to put down too much especially if ram will be ddr5

like, if the next build requires ddr5

then i obviously cant do much with the ram after that

[minor veldt]

The problem I have with RAM upgrades is that they become discontinued. I by 2x something smaller than I know I will need in the future with the intention of buying another pair later. Then they stop selling those particular sticks anymore and I'm forced to either replace the old sticks or by an unmatched pair and hope for the best. I don't know what to do in that case.

[elder cipher]

G.SKILL Trident Z has been around for a while. 🤔

[minor veldt]

That's much to vague. Search for -TZ in https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z690-UNIFY-X/support#support-mem-34. I get 49 hits. How many of those do you think will still be manufactured and sold three years from now? Not many, if my previous experience is any indication.

[elder cipher]

(I was mainly targeting Trident Z RGB Series)

Man! Some of these new DDR5 Trident Zs are looking slick!

[serene flame]

Just buy 128GB up-front and you'll be fine for the forseeable future

[serene scaffold]

these be the ones im looking at 😛

[serene scaffold]

i guess i can live off bread and water for a few months to compensate

[median marsh]

ripjaws are like half the price of trident z, so maybe don't go for the most expensive ones if you want to save money

for developing more memory helps more than faster memory

[opaque pond]

prices have gone up tho

[dark rover]

what would yall recommend, a 2070 or a 3060 XC for 3D work? I mainly use Blender and Unreal for cinematics/VFX work

[elder cipher]

The 20-series are still pretty decent GPUs imo. (There is also the RX 6700 from AMD) Which manufacturer are you thinking of going with? (FE, Asus, Evga, …)

[dark rover]

My 2070 I currently have is Zotac, but my girlfriend is thinking of buying a new GPU off facebook (unopened) EVGA 3060 XC for $800

She basically said she'd buy it for me if I have her my old card, just wanting to make sure it'll be worth it

[elder cipher]

I’m currently reviewing:
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3060-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2070/4105vs4029

It looks like the 2070 is ever so slightly better than the 3060. 🤔

But according to: (www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070/) the 3060 has slightly better FPS for various apps.

[serene scaffold]

all the numbers are saying 2070 isbetter

including price

3060 is also markedat 330

id assume there may be some differences in brand and in memory size

12 v 8 memory it looks like

https://hwbench.com/vgas/geforce-rtx-3060-vs-geforce-rtx-2070 this does say different

would assume bigger number is better (usually) but make sure you got enough psu watt if you decide to get it

im also not sure if the price your paying for is right

https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/gpu/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&gpu=RTX 3060,RTX 3060 Ti&category=GPU

literally half the price

though this one is 8 gb🤔

[dark rover]

The problem is at MSRP, pretty much every graphics card 10 series and up is completely sold out

[serene scaffold]

yeah, just such a rip off

[elder cipher]

Have you tried NewEgg? I see many there. Or are you referring to FE, or something else entirely?

[serene scaffold]

i am seeing most normal outlets are out of stock

newegg was out of stock when isaw

[elder cipher]

2070s are in but at 2x msrp

[serene scaffold]

https://www.adorama.com/ev12gp5357kr.html?adlclid=602f6e977e971ea5dd830f55e0aff910&msclkid=602f6e977e971ea5dd830f55e0aff910&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=[ADL] [Shopping] [PLA] - {Long Tail}&utm_term=4580428009562293&utm_content={Long Tail} - Bing&utm_source=adl-umbase-p -- 460 plus tax if you dont mind evga

[elder cipher]

Hey, I have an EVGA 2080 TI

[dark rover]

says its not available

but yeah I don't really care about name brand, actually the one my girl was gonna buy is this exact card you sent me

[serene scaffold]

ah shit i missed the backorder bit

[dark rover]

Won't even let you order it, or I'd just tell her to do that

[serene scaffold]

yeah its a bummer

i dunno, get another 2070 lol

gl with it, hope its good

[dark rover]

thanks for the help guys, I think we'll just scour websites early mornings hoping to get lucky

[elder cipher]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814932030
Wow, looks like the Vega 56 nearly doubled in price over the last year...

[devout pendant]

Hey everyone. I am looking for a mocap suit. What brand do you recommend?

[devout pendant]

What should i upgrade, for cinematics inside unreal and rendering ofc

[royal aspen]

Is that your current computer?

[vivid skiff]

If you're looking for rendering cinematics with higher graphics, definitely look up for GPUs with higher VRAM and at least twice the amount of system RAM you have. You going to need it to at least preventing "out of memory" crashes

[royal aspen]

More storage too, rendering to uncompressed is 400 percent faster

[royal aspen]

You should upgrade literally everything. If your thinking of getting something incremental that you can move to a new rig, a gpu would be fine

[vivid skiff]

CPU's mostly going to be involved with post work (e.g. editing in Davinci Resolve)

[royal aspen]

It’s a 5600X

Which I worked on begrudgingly for a couple of months while my cpu was in for replacement

I think the 1050ti is the thing that needs most upgrade but maybe not for quality of rendered videos, rather just faster rendering of them

HWinfo I think

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/jtmjmz/hwinfo_showing_my_5600x_as_amd_k19/

Idk

Hrm idk then

[devout pendant]

It is Speccy

[devout pendant]

I have around 300$ to spare right now, what order would you recommend an upgrade?

[vivid skiff]

Depends on your region, but I suggest exchange the GPU with some RTX 30xx and buy more RAM.

If you can't afford RTX card, even with exchange, GTX 1080 Ti is not too shabby.

[royal aspen]

Probably not getting a gpu for 300 though

[devout pendant]

Ive been looking and the prices are insane. My own GPU wich i bought for around 150 bucks is now twice the price?

[vivid skiff]

And by exchange, I mean selling the old one and buying the new one simultaneously.

[royal aspen]

Prices are crazy rn

[vivid skiff]

The chip shortage's still going strong I guess

[royal aspen]

You might want to consider something like a 5700G but that admittedly isn’t gonna be way better than what you have

[vivid skiff]

Should take your time to confirm if the seller allows bartering/exchange, so that you can pay for a fraction of the MSRP.

[royal aspen]

https://youtu.be/a4GuuCMUU7k never mind a 1050 ti is slightly better

[devout pendant]

I see, i thought the videocard crap was over by now but apperently not.

I think i will just buy 2 strips of ram

[vivid skiff]

So does COVID, frankly.

[devout pendant]

i have 16 now, is another 16 okay or should i go straight for 32

so like 48 in total

[vivid skiff]

Another 16 is fine

[devout pendant]

okay, thank you

[royal aspen]

If you can match the old sticks you’ll have better luck at reaching advertises ram speeds. The manufacturer and line and speed I mean

[vivid skiff]

Also I don't think many PC part seller elsewhere allow for bartering old parts to cut down the price 🤔

[devout pendant]

I have this now from G-Skill

will it match with those?

[royal aspen]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941

Ah okay

[royal aspen]

Those matched your model number but are 3200

[royal aspen]

Sorry nah I think the one I picked is the same as yours

Got confused

[devout pendant]

yeah these

[royal aspen]

You should try setting your docp on in bios to run at 3200mhz ram instead of 2132mhz

[royal aspen]

Yeah those aren’t the same bin

The ones in your computer are binned at 3200mhz

Search F4-3200C16D-16GVKB

[royal aspen]

If you are planning on not running the ram at advertiser speeds like your already doing, any kit should work okay

[devout pendant]

i'll have to read about that, i dont know what that does and dont want to overclock and risk burning or whatever my system, its all i have

[devout pendant]

okay ill search it

[royal aspen]

There is a standard memory speed which all dimms must support, but ram is sold to run faster than the standard. It’s technically over clocking but it is just running your hardware at the speed it was tested for. DOCP is a on memory dimm solution that means you just turn it on and the memory runs at the speed the mfg tested at

If you were to run your 3200mhz ram at 4000mhz that would be more of what I’d consider a real over clock

And wouldn’t recommend it, not because of fires but your computer would probably just become unstable

[devout pendant]

I see, so i can just turn it on without risk

[royal aspen]

Yep

If you start getting crashes after you turn it on though, then your ram kit is mislabeled. But it should work.

[devout pendant]

I found this one

That one should work right?

[royal aspen]

Matches

Yeah hopefully you’ll be able to run all 32gb at 3200mhz with that one

[devout pendant]

Yeah,

I'm gonna try to set my ram speed in the bios now

[royal aspen]

Look for docp

[devout pendant]

alright

i think it worked

Before:

[devout pendant]

yeah it was under extreme memory profile setting: auto

I see

I think i ordered one that will fit with the other ones

So i guess my ram went from 2100 to 3200, is that significant or how would you feel the effect of this?

[agile lodge]

https://www.seagate.com/gb/en/products/gaming-drives/special-editions/beskar-ingot-drive/ if want some beskar to your life

[royal aspen]

It’s very decent.

I notice higher ram frequencies with games and even the mouse cursor can be a little more fluid. Tasks that are memory bound will complete faster

[devout pendant]

Well premiere feels a lot faster now!

Thanks

[devout pendant]

Hey

I want to buy a new psu

I have i9 10850k and I am planning to buy a rtx 30 series card

What watts should I search

[frank glade]

min 750w. maybe get 850w or more if you will get a 40 series card in the future?

[devout pendant]

750 sounds great at this time

Okay

Ty

[royal aspen]

How many watts do you have now

[devout pendant]

650 @royal aspen

[median marsh]

nonsense

first of all what 30xx card

[devout pendant]

something like 3060 - 3070

[median marsh]

usually 650W should be sufficient, depending on what kind of hardware you else have in the system

[devout pendant]

only the cpu itself can get up to 300w when sometimes full load

[median marsh]

xD not really

get a watt meter for the powerplug, then you can actually see how much it draws

[devout pendant]

At 4.8Ghz on all core. It consumes 176W

i read on forums

[median marsh]

yea, and you use all cores and 100% gpu exactly when?

[devout pendant]

yes

[median marsh]

either you use all cores to compile something, or you use 100% and a few cores when you play something

no

not yes

tell me a scenario where you use 100% gpu and cpu

[devout pendant]

compilind shaders

compiling

[median marsh]

that uses cpu

[devout pendant]

100 gpu probably in gaming

100 cpu only for compiling

[median marsh]

i said a scenario where both is used at 100%

[devout pendant]

i dont know XD

[median marsh]

i'm aware of that

😄

[devout pendant]

so with 650 i will be fine?

[median marsh]

probably yes

how many hard drives?

or any special extra stuff?

[devout pendant]

not really 1 ssd one nvme

[median marsh]

yea i'm pretty certain that you are fine with 650 then

[devout pendant]

and a cpu cooler

with rgb

hahha

[median marsh]

xD

everybody has an cpu cooler, and leds don't draw much power

[royal aspen]

yeah

an extra 50w isn't gonna do you much good

I would be very surprised if even a 3080 with a power hungry intel chip could really utilize more than 650w

Your welcome to upgrade it if you want though, just I don't estimate it to be necessary

[devout pendant]

okk

i thought i was necessary

better

more money for gpu

[royal aspen]

Yeah I mean a 3080 and that cpu of yours with a dual cpu power 4x2 connector and such

Thats kind of where things are a little hairy but, still within spec

@devout pendant

[devout pendant]

linkkk

please

[royal aspen]

Like if newegg is saying that is 638 watts (which is probably over kill) i'd think you good

[royal aspen]

https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/

[devout pendant]

oh

thats perfect

with a 3060ti i need only 458 watts

thats noiiiiceeeee

[royal aspen]

If you can get a rx6800 for a similar price now with your psu money would highly recommend it

switched from nvidia this series of cards and regret nothing

[devout pendant]

nah nvidia only

same performance?

[royal aspen]

better raster and ai scores

not as good at raytracing, but thats a gimmick to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=8AQBFC1qVi4

[median marsh]

PSU calculators are usually considering the worst case scenario where everything runs with 100% and maybe even overclocked

[royal aspen]

Yeah i mentioned that a lil, if newegg says its enough i would imagine unless you have some crazy crazy led setup, it'd be enough

[median marsh]

see, imagine you go on PSU website, and they tell you to buy 500W and then you overclock or something and it isn't enough for some reason, you would be mad at the company for that recommendation

they rather suggest too much than a realistic choice

[royal aspen]

its weird that the 3060 ti is 8gb

aren't they re-releasing the 2060 with 12gb or something?

[median marsh]

yea

also the 3060 non ti is 12gb

[royal aspen]

wut lol

[royal aspen]

the 6800 will out edge a 3070 with anything not-raytracing. and then above that you have the 6800xt and 6900xt

^ all of these are 16gb (except the 3070 which is 8gb)

[royal aspen]

I use regular lightmass with a network

Made edits to lightmass for water baking, not sure if it can be done for gpulightmass too

But it really requires DXR?

Like is there a big difference between a 3090 and a 3060 for it?

Yeah

Like the 6800 is as good at raytracing as the rtx 2xxx series

But idk I haven’t found a use for that when I had a 2xxx series

Good to know that about lightmass

Very cool

Nice, yeah 32% delta sounds about right

I went from a 2080ti to a 6900xt and hadn’t noticed any performance difference in rt but everything else yeah

[midnight condor]

I wasn’t able to get Gpu lightmass to work on my 6800xt when I tried a couple months ago

It would just hang the gpu immediately

Did you get it to work?

[royal aspen]

Nah, I have my own edited build of cpu lightmass i use. I could try it with a test project or something though

[weary mulch]

Hey

I have a question

So i have one stick of ram 16gb 3200mhz ddr4
One stick of ram 8gb 2400mhz ddr4

Should i keep the 16gb stick in the PC single channel
Or should I put the 8gb ram in but means the 16gb will run only at 2400mhz

[royal aspen]

@weary mulch it depends on what you need. If 16gb Isn’t enough then you’d use two channels for two sticks

[weary mulch]

Nevermind it

The PC won't even load windows with both of them in

[royal aspen]

How many slots are there?

[weary mulch]

2

[royal aspen]

Yeah you’d need 4 slots

[weary mulch]

But is fine il keep it single channel until i can afford a copy of the 16gb

Is fineee

Thanks for helping

[royal aspen]

Mhm

[median marsh]

what board is this with only 2 slots? Oo

[royal aspen]

maybe a itx

[vagrant anvil]

Hi all, I'm the author of these articles. Always looking for feedback on making the data more useful. Our customers tend to be larger gamedev studios, film houses, or architecture firms, but I'd like to make the testing cover as many users as I can. Eventually, we'll make a downloadable benchmark specific to Unreal, that you can run to compare your system to newer hardware.

[royal aspen]

Welcome

[flat glade]

Colour me interested in a ue4 dev benchmark

Not sure what else it would cover beyond shader compilation and building c++

Maybe a canned rendering bench as well?

I wonder if one could make a bench that runs a decent sized ue4 build that doesn't require all 5000 actions

[sharp coral]

hi everyone, does anyone have any experience in dealing with laptop internal cables? I have an ASUS FX571GT-BQ691T that didn't come with an HDD even tho it has a slot for one (only an NVME SSD) so I bought a SATA SSD recently hoping that I would plug it in the same sata slot as the HDD

except I realized laptops don't use regular SATA cables so I'm kinda lost

I found the cable on an website specialized on asus products but it was at an insane price (25$ or more for a tiny cable)

does anyone know what that cable is called and where I can buy it? and whether it depends on the motherboard or if all laptops have the same internal sata - ??? cable?

any help would be greatly appreciated :')

[median marsh]

are you sure that it requires a cable? usually they have mounted connectors

or didn't your laptop come with any because it was bought without hdd?

[sharp coral]

Yeah it was bought without hdd

I don't know what to look for that's the issue

https://www.zandparts.com/en/asus-14010-00730300

I found the same part here by looking for the product number

But it might actually be some kind of standard and I'm just wasting time trying to find the exact ref of my laptop

I'll try calling Asus tomorrow

[median marsh]

i would give it a go for $7

and maybe check if the connector looks the same on your laptop

[sharp coral]

This one is my motherboards'

The only issue is shipping is 9.6€

Kind feels like a scam too

Yeah for sure

I think I'll just confirm with Asus customer support before buying it though

If it had free shipping I would have already bought it but 16€ still stings a little bit for such a tiny cable

[devout pendant]

Hello is there someone that can tell me if it's worth trying to overclock this :

i don't have experience with overclocking but i read somewhere you can use PBO and it will do it automaticly?

[hollow peak]

It was 7 degrees Fahrenheit last night and my laptop was sitting in a sleeve inside my backpack exposed to the cold.
It just booted up without any problems.
If you can believe that.
I cant.
Thats -13 degrees Celsius.
Acer Nitro 5 gaming laptop bought at Best Buy.

[muted holly]

Best monitor for Xbox X ? Just 4K with 1ms ?

Got the console for my son to replace the xbone S. Definitely not getting the 4K or fps

[royal aspen]

You install ryzen master then set it to auto oc

If you’ve got a x570 board and overhead in power you could get considerable gains but how much you notice them: we’ll see

[odd hatch]

When I'm tabbed into Discord, either shortcut for Windows Snip and Sketch simply doesn't work. I can still screenshot my Discord window by using the tool while tabbed into something on my other monitor. What might be causing this?

[devout pendant]

I turned on PBO and some basic settings in the BIOS, but after watching and reading for 4 hours straight i think it won't have much impact as you said. Well it was worth figuring out 🙂

[odd hatch]

I'm not using anything Intel aside from my network card, I'm pretty sure

I figure it has to be something between the keyboard, Discord, or maybe something like focus assist

This is only happening after I installed everything to a new hard drive

[hollow panther]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone here could kindly help me? I'm not sure where to post this and I've not found a solution online and have always had better feedback on here.. sooo since I've upgraded from a 1080Ti to a 3090, Unreal Engine 4, after 20 or 30 mins, flickers black and the menus all go black and I have to restart the programme every time and this gets really really annoying when you're working on a project 10 hours a day.. it appears to be an issue that's been around for a long time... any solutions out there? this is driving me mad. I'm working on 3 screens... all drivers are up to date as is everything else. What graphics cards are compatible with UE4 because the 3090 isn't.

[idle elk]

happening to me and many more as well

apparently its something with nvidias drivers

and no there doesnt seem to be any solution as for now other than relaunching ue

[royal aspen]

If your serious about about asking for compatible cards the rx6900xt works great

It’s weird because I left nvidia when things were fine for amd and now I bypassed this nonsense lol

There was a oculus installer bug

It was patched right away but yeah that’s it as far as issues I’ve ran into

No stinking GeForce experience

And automatic updates, without an account being needed, or update to update software, for update to driver software

[astral musk]

I feel like sometime last year Nvidia somewhat unified Studio and GeForce drivers and around that time more issues started appearing

[royal aspen]

Studio drivers were always goofy for me, it used to be for rdp with gl driver you needed studio

But they added that to game ready so idk why there’s a distinction really

They make their own markets to sell in by cutting off ability of their other products

Half the reason for quadros

[astral musk]

feels like the classic started seeing competition, began panicking and got sloppy.

I've been having good luck with my 3090, so now I refuse to update drivers

[royal aspen]

It’s discontinued afaik

Lame

It’s funny how amd has the mac market

Still

[astral musk]

thats mainly because apple HATES Nvidia. they have a lot of bad blood

[royal aspen]

Yeah it’s mutual

[astral musk]

AMD getting both consoles is massive

[idle elk]

how come apple hates nvidia

[astral musk]

it goes back over 10 years

[idle elk]

not surprised i wasnt aware of that then

[royal aspen]

https://blog.greggant.com/posts/2021/10/13/apple-vs-nvidia-what-happened.html

[idle elk]

thank u

[gray surge]

:no_entry_sign: mansworstnightmare#0605 was banned.

[hollow panther]

which driver do you have for your 3090? I've tried to fix this but 20 to 30 mins in my menus go black again... fuming

[astral musk]

its actually more upto date than I thought. 496.13

also still on Windows 10, on an AMD platform, just in case there is some combo leading to the issue

[odd hatch]

does anyone know why some programs just aren't opening on startup, even though I put them in the correct folder?

[mellow galleon]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-deactivated-avx-512-on-alder-lake-but-fully-questionable-interpretation-of-efficiency-news-editorial/

lol

intel goes crazy to promote their efficient cores

[royal aspen]

But that’s not all, because the remaining AVX2 instruction set is already limited by Intel to a multiplier of x51. While the set clock rate of 5.2 GHz, for example, is continuously available in applications without AVX2, such as Cinebench, and benchmark high scores can be achieved, the picture looks different in applications like LinpackXtreme. Even if you set the CPU clock to static in the BIOS, remove all performance limits and ensure sufficient cooling, the CPU throttles itself down to 5.1 GHz when executing AVX2 instructions. It also doesn’t matter how warm the CPU runs, how much power it consumes, or what the application is called. In HWInfo the intervention of the clock limit is recognizable by “IA: Max Turbo Limit – Yes”.
@rugged wedge

[mellow galleon]

actually disabling them was giving some boost according to tests due to windows scheduler always using good cores

and not doing that efficient/fast switches

so the 8+6 core was working as good old 8 core intel cpu

[rugged wedge]

wild - Intel should go back to making traditional cpus that are just fast that's it

they still have a lead when it comes to SIMD btw

AMD doesn't benefit nearly as much from it as intel cpus, not even zen3

[royal aspen]

It’s nuts to me that if some process uses avx it could scale back the multiplier for it

[rugged wedge]

yeah

[royal aspen]

Agreed

[rugged wedge]

I don't see into the internals of it all but I'm really wondering how amd is beating intel btw

[mellow galleon]

traditional would have 350w tdp and need a freezer bundled in

😄

[royal aspen]

Is it like intel requires it to stay on par with amd?

Or do they excel at it

[rugged wedge]

excel

[royal aspen]

Interesting

[rugged wedge]

at least according to my tests - no matter what hand-crafted simd I throw at it the zen3 will only typically be 2x faster than the corresponding scalar code

do that to an intel and it's more like 3..4x on average

(testing on a single core because as I've found out it's impossible not to be memory bound by even the smallest thing on a 5950x)

[royal aspen]

Very interesting

[rugged wedge]

there are probably better programmers out there than me though 😄

last time around I went down to the assembly level just to see if the compilers were messing something up but they weren't (too much)

so I think it really is an amd issue

[royal aspen]

It’s cool to see intel gaining back ground but the e/p core stuff is major face palm

It’s crazy to have a strong cap placed in a k series processor like the one described for avx

[rugged wedge]

to be fair I never liked the split between overclockable and not

[royal aspen]

Yeah but it would seem the avx instructions are the most power demanding ones, so the things they selling as overclockable even have caps

[royal aspen]

Like I agree I mean, just if your gonna call something as overclockable and have a hard limit in place on a high performance set of instructions like 👀

[rugged wedge]

avx is cool because its instructions use a different target register than its source registers

and there's stuff like an 8-way gather

so basically 8 memory loads in a single instruction

slow as hell on anything but the latest intel cpus I've heard

but yeah that would be a very heavy instruction and I imagine it generates a lot of heat too

not to mention the register renaming shenanigans that must be going on in the background when you're issuing even the simpler avx instructions like vaddps

(https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/vgatherdps:vgatherqps this is the gather btw)

[royal aspen]

Yeah

I mean I get they have to make sure that the thing doesn’t start on fire

But dropping 100mhz to do intensive stuff across the board seems like something where they are accounting the performance to power ratio being balanced in a pretty crude way

Like I don’t know enough about it but the claims in that article miff me

[rugged wedge]

🤣

look at those puny cores omg

more than 10x as slow as the normal cores

[royal aspen]

[rugged wedge]

adding is only 2x as slow 🥲

[mellow galleon]

well, i think they're mobile use

[royal aspen]

Isn’t bringing laptop performance crap to desktop the whole way they are entering bargain cpu era with the 14nm stuff?

Like the 12900kfc or whatever is supposed to be all pcores or something

[rugged wedge]

well intel's the same company that's stripped avx and avx2 out on purpose from its celerons and pentiums even as recently as 2019 afaik

[royal aspen]

Don’t like ecores

[mellow galleon]

nobody does except intel pr

[royal aspen]

https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i9-12900kf-vs-intel-core-i9-12900k seems like the kf is not any better, just missing igpu

[mellow galleon]

just same cpus but with damaged integrated gpu which is fused out

[royal aspen]

https://youtu.be/RN683sShPKI might as well tbh

[royal aspen]

I swear dots Isn’t a thing anymore

[flat glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jX-hKvUQDU AMD's product premiere is on

laptop cpus... bluegh! skip to the big beefy chips!

[median marsh]

they showed 5 seconds of halo on zen4 with an rtx3080 😄

[rotund moth]

I'm still very much enjoying my 3900X.

I'm curious about the Ryzen 7000 desktop chips, but they didn't release many details today.

[flat glade]

seems like we won't get those until the second half of 2022

bummmer...

[median marsh]

time for intel users to drop ddr5 prices 😛

[royal aspen]

Ddr5 is one of those resale value scalping things

The msrp ain’t the problem

[mellow galleon]

at least i'm happy about amd switching to lga sockets

pins are annoying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktZ6pyTJi7o was watching this instead (more compact than official stream)

[errant crypt]

Finally an upgrade worthy of my money^

[charred path]

if geforce 4xxx comes out, will it lower the prices of the 3xxx? will it also move the miners favoring the 4xxx over the 3xxx?

[median marsh]

no

when 3xxx series came out even 1xxx series prices went up

[charred path]

I am itching getting the 3080ti or 3090. But if that's the case I might just get the 4xxx at least close to "MSRP" 😅 then..

[frank glade]

aren't they at the most expensive they've ever been now?

[worldly ivy]

Guys should i use the new imac 24-in M1 four ports or shoukd i use the old one?

[median marsh]

doesn't unreal editor run like shit on the M1?

[golden dirge]

It's not bad, but a little laggy. I do have the M1 Pro though, which is a lot nicer. Then again, I'm comparing to a 3080/5800X build.

Weirdly, performance is good but it just feels like rough VSync. Like good FPS but at a delay

[worldly ivy]

What are the specs

[golden dirge]

For the MBP? 14", pretty much base model with 16 core GPU and 16GB RAM. It's from work but, didn't get it for game Dev.

Maybe once an ARM native release comes out

[worldly ivy]

But what about the unreal engine 5 specs?

[golden dirge]

What specs?

[worldly ivy]

Any recomended laptops for unreal engine 5? Under $1500

[vivid skiff]

Basically any (actual) gaming laptops out there.
I think Asus TUF laptops had some good specs for cheaper than that.

Lumen and Nanite is expected to run on mid to high end hardware, so gaming laptops around that price tag should do the job.

Though you may considering to replace the HDD with an SSD, as many of them still sporting the former.

[idle elk]

i personally have the asus zephyrus g14 and would very much recommend it

im pretty sure you can get the rtx 3050ti w r7 5800hs model for about 1500

[trail prairie]

Hi guys, have anyone found or tested render results from Apple M1 Max vs any high end RTX from Nvidia? I'm wondering about render results and ray tracing and which one looks better. I mean RTX render would look good already, but the question I have is it enough good the one from M1 Max

[royal aspen]

Wouldn’t recommend developing on Mac

I haven’t heard of any plans to make the editor native arm

So it will run through the emulation layer/transplier

I don’t have an idea of how the metal renderer looks though, but I doubt there would be many differences that would be a positive

[golden dirge]

M1 native support would definitely be under way, and even TSwizzy has confirmed as such before. Apple end up dropping the old platform after a few years of Rosetta being a thing, and they likely will do so again.

Epic would never skip the entire iOS market

[median marsh]

as target yes, but as dev environment?

[golden dirge]

It's already supported as a target, isn't it?

[median marsh]

i don't know anything about iOS honestly

the M1 just got me curious 😄

[golden dirge]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1450163607778611201

Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic)

@ajm4k @UnrealEngine Yes, Mac development of Unreal Engine, Epic Online Services, and the Epic Games Store continues wholeheartedly.

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Twitter · Oct 18, 2021, 6:15 PM

I have an M1 Pro and the performance is good, but the experience isn't. It's good FPS but a lot of input lag, like extreme VSync. Think it's Rosetta related.

Unity was similar before the native version, but HDRP never performed well lol

[errant peak]

I have new secondary monitors that like to dump all my programs to the main monitor whenever I lock my computer. Anyone know any magical settings to prevent this?

I've already gone through the monitor settings to prevent them from going to sleep. It didn't happen with my old secondary monitors.

[errant peak]

That is a good idea. I'll see if there is info on LG

They are LG 32GN63T.

[minor veldt]

I have the same issue. Old monitor leave windows where they are. New monitor enters some kind of sleep state, the OS thinks the monitor has been unplugged and moves all the windows to the main monitor.

I worked-around it by enabling a setting named along the lines of "ask when new monitor is connected". Then when the machine wakes up I get a pop-up on which I can select Expand Workspace or similar and all the windows jump back where they belong again.

[errant peak]

Thanks for the tip!

Really frustrating to take steps backwards when upgrading hardware

[golden dirge]

I bought a top of the line Alienware monitor and it does not auto switch inputs... I switch back and forth between desktop and laptop, a d have to go through the menu each time. Previous generic Samsung one switched just fine 😕

[empty basin]

Ha, that's still better than my HP monitor. It tries to be smart about which input is active and tries to switch to it. Unfortunately it gets it wrong most of the time - which leads to me having to go into the menu twice because it usually reverts my settings the first time around 🙃

[errant peak]

This is so funny

Because it's true

Same with Razer IMHO

[midnight condor]

alienware was cool around the time falcon northwest was cool

[golden dirge]

Their monitors are pretty solid, and this one's about 1/2 the price of an equivalent LG, saved me about $1000!

Their computers and all are pretty memey and I wouldn't buy them, but pretty sure AW monitor is just the most gaming monitors from Dell.

This one's 3840*1600 (38") and 144Hz, big boi

[errant peak]

I complain about the monitors I have, but they were really cheap. 32 inches, 1440 x 2560, and only $250.

The color quality is garbage. I wouldn't want to use them for any graphical work, but they are great for coding.

[unborn pike]

I've been thinking about getting the new eve spectrum 🤔

27" 2560x1440 one

[median marsh]

the frick are those companies?

i would by a screen from some company which manufactures panels on their own rather than from someone who puts a bit plastic around it

[unborn pike]

why

[mighty cosmos]

I've been using Acer NITRO XV272UP (27" 2560x1440) as my main monitor and it's been great 🤷‍♂️

[silver nexus]

I'm getting a fractal torrent case and the bottom can have 2x 180mm or 3x 140mm fans. I'm debating on which to do. The 180mm fans are bigger, but 3 of the 140 would be 420mm's worth of "fan" so I'm not sure which would be more powerful in airflow

[median marsh]

that's not how surface calculation works

2x180mm have more surface than 3x140mm

and i wouldn't really use the bottom fans at all, they don't contribute anything meaningful to the airflow

maybe one of them as exhaust(?) fan, to suck out hot air from the gpu, while you push cold air from the front

[royal aspen]

The arctic freezer has a 420 variant

[silver nexus]

Yeah, I got an arctic freezer 420 AIO that I'm putting the radiator on the front. The case comes with the fans included which are the 180 and 140 I mentioned. so I thought about putting them in the bottom. THere's only 1x 140mm rear mount and no top mounts

And cool, thanks

[median marsh]

so you push the warm air from the radiator through the case?

[silver nexus]

from the test I saw where they compared that setup and having the radiator on the top, it is better to have it in the front. the gpu temperature was near identical having the radiator in the front or the top. but the cpu temperature had a large increase with the radiator on the top depending if your gpu blows air out the back or inside your case. If it blows it inside the case then you'd be trying to cool your cpu with the warm air

[frank glade]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/hardware-reliability-puget-systems-2021