hardware

[mighty patrol]

I hope that can be a cheaper alternative

[median marsh]

i think the magic sauce for rokoko may be currently the software/firmware

[mighty patrol]

Yeah I've seen corridor crew use it a few times looks amazing

[median marsh]

the hardware to build the sensors isn't too expensive to begin with

thought about it, the gyros are kinda cheap, but even if you build your own you'll likely end up with $20/sensor and then you still need software 😄

[mighty patrol]

Probably a pi or something to

[median marsh]

nah, rather something in the direction of esp32 + mpu6050

at least for the $200 kit (could be even a cheaper gyro or knock off...)

[mighty patrol]

Fair

[median marsh]

a "good" gyro sensor is around $30 in b2b, mpu6050 does it's job but linear acceleration drifts kinda much

[mighty patrol]

Always wanted to learn how to work with bread boards

[median marsh]

if you just need bone rotations, the mpu6050 is pretty fine tho

[mighty patrol]

Maybe give me the excuse I need

That and soldering

[median marsh]

you don't even need soldering to get started

[mighty patrol]

Did a little bit 10 years ago but always wanted to learn

[median marsh]

bread board set, and esp32 dev kit and whatever stuff you want it

[mighty patrol]

I got some old electronics I can fix if I learnt how

[median marsh]

but really, go for fricking ESP32 and not arduino 😄

especially if you already have C++ stuff done

[mighty patrol]

More customization for sure

True

[median marsh]

it's just in every regard better in my opinion

[mighty patrol]

Even then Basically Homeless has done all his work so far with vibe coding 😂

All that robotics

To be fair how much of it is janky code

Rebocap even has a UE plugin

[median marsh]

yea

the funny thing is Arduino released a R4 board with an ESP32 for WiFi 😄

their fricking 48MHz processor, while having a esp32 with 2x240 MHz microcontroller just for WiFi 😄

[mighty patrol]

Yikes

[wise elbow]

Arduino is definitely easier to get started with

A lot more basically plug and play parts

[median marsh]

it's pretty much the same tbh

there's lots of beginner stuff even for esp32 around!? 🤷

i might be biased because i've worked with all the stuff before arduino/esp32...

[wise elbow]

yeah, but if you look at most of the projects people post online its probably arduino

a lot easier to just ask people what they did sometimes

i do agree that esp32 is a better platform overall, though

also arduino uses a lot less power for cases where that matters

[median marsh]

you can downclock the ESP iirc

https://docs.espressif.com/projects/esp-idf/en/stable/esp32/api-reference/system/power_management.html

not sure if that's possible through Arduino Studio tho, i don't recall exactly if it was possible to use everything in there...

really worth to switch to esp-idf once you have the hang of it

[mighty patrol]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/2040070182815629336?s=20

Wario64 (@Wario64)

Legion Go 2 prices have gone up ($1,499.99 / $1,999.99)

X · Apr 3, 2026, 2:13 PM

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/y25mGZqZh2w

[orchid iron]

I swear this guy

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7RZbCvgzz8

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/JwYttFnXRps?si=unoHPnmZv6uwnXoO

Also, Jay's response screams that he actually got annoyed from the comments of the Jay Vs AI Vs salesman

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YrDVclkNcvk?si=5wWxoPL5kJfSL2Su

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/o1km5E6vWVo?si=cKF8Ju3m2SPO0und

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QCOa4Kvhm84

[orchid iron]

reminds me of the crypto boom, GPUs coolers were swapped for blower style instead xD

[mighty patrol]

Bring it back

[slender trellis]

hasware

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AHiR_UH9FhA?si=c41lSSFUbd1t8oML

[orchid iron]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fqn9ssADC0Q

Imagine one the richest company: Nvidia getting copyright claimed on YouTube for using DLSS 5... something made by NVIDIA XD

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/faOWGxEx3lA?si=VEDfSePbBsDW3clt

Imagine having a desktop computer with weaker spec than a car

[feral cypress]

One is 20 grand (used, being generous) the other is 3 grand its not TOO surprising imo (still kinda crazy though )

I mean how else did you expect teslas to work

[median marsh]

even some phones come with 16G by now

which was likely the main reason that ram prices got so much down in the last years. Since they increased production capacity for mobile devices, like phones, tablets, etc.

[wise elbow]

it was the cheapest way to improve performance for average usecases

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uG1hGXh5xU

[grave sundial]

I'll be happy enough just to get my refund. I have to wait two to five days for it to be credited to my account, or raise a dispute with the credit card company.

I was looking forward to that 4TB nvme drive, but thems the breaks. 🙁

[mighty patrol]

Refund then get a better one

[grave sundial]

It was a Kingston Fury 4TB. Problem was the supplier. 🙁

If I buy from Amazon, it'd be MRP. I got pre-inflation prices with that dubious seller. 😄

[orchid iron]

I like how he doesn't talk about SLC cache which is what matters most for the average consumer

Since everyone notices massive performance drops once that cache gets overwhelmed

[mighty patrol]

But he has a jet!

[orchid iron]

Would be great to have consumer SLC drives, man, those speeds could easily make the massive pice bandwidth be used properly

||Yes, ever since ZTT, got some pice PSUs I'll call pcie wrong xD||

[mighty patrol]

Maybe in 4 years

[median marsh]

i think big cache is overrated depending on the use case

you don't often write many GB in sequence as normal user

[wise elbow]

normal user hardly even benefits from new ssds

a pcie3 SSD will probably offer identical performance to a swanky pcie5 for most people

[mighty patrol]

Ever wonder if your storage can survive being buried?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-0wh9KXaPA

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UW5iqxpvNjg?si=slzIKq6phoOFKrH1

I feel like this would annoy tech YouTubers way more than normal users since we don't constantly swap out CPUs on our motherboards

[mighty patrol]

But WCCFtech said some people are done making intel mobos don't ya know hur dur

Imagine buying a $5000 gpu and be like ima mod this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecd1Huk1c20

[orchid iron]

Bruh, the guy is so much more incompetent than he shows, such an embarrassment for those who actually know how to properly repair GPUs

[orchid iron]

If it makes money, it'll be done

Nowadays with ram prices and the upgradability of AM5 it makes sense to reduce intel mobo production

But once Nova lake comes out, a lot of things will change, especially if intel comes out and say they'll make 4 architectures on it publicly, not just from internal leaks

[mighty patrol]

Mostly just memeing on Jayz video

[orchid iron]

Wait, he actually mentioned it, omg

[mellow galleon]

https://videocardz.com/newz/colorful-to-bring-back-some-ddr3-motherboards-in-may it is difficult times lmao

[orchid iron]

Imagine overclocking a printer

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww8XkiOFWIQ

[orchid iron]

Those are quite common in Europe xD

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/t-zIY5TIQQs?si=tTTAAqCYkl8yMS0Z

[wise elbow]

43 thousand dollars of memory

[subtle rock]

whers my hardware boys 😄

is rocky a good linux?

Debian 13 (Trixie) - debian13
64 bit | 2 Jul 2030 before requiring a reinstall
and rocky is saying 2035

[subtle rock]

seems kind of unresonable when a16 card could of provided 4 cores and 64gb of vram?

in 1 gpu package

[orchid iron]

If you know what you are doing, yes

If you are beginning, probably not ideal xD

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/dFtFhkWiHiw?si=2uKYtr_6ztiCKplq

While it is theoretically possible, would 72 cores on AM5 be of any use compared to a max of 36? (32 zen7, 4 low power cores)

Because a thing like those would perhaps be over 2000$ MSRP, at this point what's the difference between a thread ripper and this

[wise elbow]

substantially different IO capability and cooling

thread ripper has a lot more IO and can be cooled easier because it's plate is bigger iirc

[orchid iron]

Yeah, exactly, 72 cores with a am5 frame guard just looks so janky xD

[wise elbow]

They would have to be clocked so low as to be useless for most things

Though they might do well for AI workloads

[orchid iron]

If it is good for ai, then multiply price by X10 or x100 xD

[subtle rock]

btw @orchid iron i gave the almalinux a try out its honestly not even that bad .. like free redhat enterprise in a way

just getting used the debian differences

there package management is extremely impressive

well as far as servers that need to have a life span go

i would always stick to debian at home

because at home you have gpus and such in the linux server lol

constantly need to stray from the package repo regardless

i wouldnt of minded trying rocky i am not that much of a rookie just constrained by the needs of the clients

[orchid iron]

Indeed, both the hardware and the software need to do the things required of them

[subtle rock]

but yeah long overdue upgrade was some what successfull and we rooted out a few more weak links in the process

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq-hjVSlToI

[orchid iron]

looks like he is in quite the sticky situation xD

[mighty patrol]

I would not want to be that gpu

[mighty patrol]

https://x.com/MMatt14/status/2045385094983209316?s=20

Mᜋtt (@MMatt14)

some guy from Reddit puts a GTX 1080 in the oven and it got resurrected from the dead

PC hardware market is so bad people have to commit Necromancy now

X · Apr 18, 2026, 6:13 AM

[median marsh]

that's an old practice tho

reflow fixed a lot of cards in the past

[mighty patrol]

Bringing it back

[orchid iron]

ayyy, looks awesome

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/pe_ZNTHgUkM?si=QYhGb0gm4NySlvyl

[grave sundial]

Could you gift me one for my birthday?

It's definitely for storing important, classified documents and || NOT over 800 video games ||.

[orchid iron]

I would not store games on a 280 MB/s drive, but it does look like an awesome laptop suitcase

[grave sundial]

Can I have yours then? 😛

[orchid iron]

The drive or the suitcase xD

[grave sundial]

Yes. 😛

[orchid iron]

Okie 👌🤣

[grave sundial]

$1,295 for an 8TB WD nvme now, here.

[mighty patrol]

That's it

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QN-MJUKhWA

[subtle rock]

any one know of a tool that can override DPI scaling on individual apps bellow 100% ?

i would of thought its something nvidia could possibly help with but its not like every one out theres rocking rtx gpus either so not a silver bullet for win 11

my problem is that 4k skins using DPI percentage scaling is giving me a bit of a headake .. because you know 1080p and older remote desktops etc 😄

[subtle rock]

why cant this just be a affordable nvme

still make a killing if its the real deal

happy consumers happy markets happy factorys 🤔

no body happy in the sdcard factory just sayin 😄

nvme front slot for life

bewm bidy bye bye usb harddrive and sdcard in one hit

[wise elbow]

I thought you could set it in properties on an executable

but maybe that's just setting where it gets its scaling from

its impressive how much scaling fucks with older/clueless software

[subtle rock]

its because said software takes it upoun it self to define the boundrys of the pannel or what ever thing baised on the size of the Texture! ... with out a zoom factor.. Factored in .. IN the aspect ratio side of it all

i duno just my 50 cent

also negative zoom concepts just make them very angry

[mighty patrol]

Yoo brain food! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsByd7h0kkY

[fallen oasis]

Never touch this setting!!!

(time and date!)

[subtle rock]

could basically say that about most advanced chipset/cpu settings tbh

[hollow summit]

My stuff! Getting the case, ram, and gpu soon

[orchid iron]

Pretty cool 👍
What's the case?

https://youtu.be/p6O4LCmah98?si=Et8trL4bAY-3SPPn

[hollow summit]

Pa401 if I cannot get it 4000d airflow

[orchid iron]

Gamer Nexus out here collecting blacklists like Pokémon badges

[orchid iron]

Neat

[hollow summit]

Yep

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt_LZYJ2mIo

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/rMgRZTMxh1I?si=ke3qo5HQKhP7F7Z2

[subtle rock]

swear when i have £ spare i am going to see what this arc is up too

first we are going to build the mini mobile rack

as that other guy said if your not sick of atx then your to new to the game

[hollow summit]

Me finding out how much one of my nvmes are worth now

The fact 1tb and 2tb nvmes are expensive rn is crazy

I wonder how much that's destroying devs

[mighty patrol]

We had it good for so long them going up seemed inevitable.

[hollow summit]

Good thing I got my 2tb nvme and 1tb nvme already

[mighty patrol]

Jeff Bezos over here

[hollow summit]

I got them before the crisis

Well- so I got the 1tb in 2024 and I refunded 64gb ddr5 on the day of the crisis (I didn't know it was that day and my friend told me it was cheaper on amazon) so I switched it for the 2tb 990

Now I gotta try to get ram again

[grave sundial]

Good thing I have my MSI 4TB for the past year and more. 😄

[hollow summit]

I showed some of my hardware here

I still gotta get the case, ram, and gpu.

[orchid iron]

It's is expensive because of that 90 days free Amazon music!

[hollow summit]

True

[orchid iron]

What dollars are these?

[hollow summit]

Cad

Canadian

[orchid iron]

Oh, so double the price, got it

[wise elbow]

i bought a 4tb on sale early last year and it was cheap

now it's insane

[subtle rock]

they guy in the shed ram ™

lets see if he can stitch it into one module interface for the pc to play doom on 🤘

imagine a Ram Printer!

that guy is onto something very cool

Class 100 Ram facility into a ink jet printer type thinking

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6GWikWlAQA

[orchid iron]

Breaking bad looking slightly different than what I remembered

[mighty patrol]

It lives! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fte4Kd_5lFM

[orchid iron]

Omg it is a miracle!
Not that the GPU was fixed, but that NorthridgeFix actually fixed something!!!

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/LYpRvRpTiew?si=DUBf7d981vLiWZfl

Looks like FSR 5 ain't gonna be AI because there are barely anyone working on it

[mighty patrol]

Further cementing nvidias lead?

[orchid iron]

Lead in Instagram filters, yes

[median marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6g2cKbbRM

[orchid iron]

That is some good air flow!

Also, make sure to also remove as much dust from the room as you can, because it'll get sucked in the filters and overtime will make your components dusty

I live next to sand so I gotta clean my filters twice a month

[hollow summit]

Don't worry I will I also plan on getting a new desk

[orchid iron]

Nice, my pc is also on a desk and it doesn't stop it from becoming really dusty though

[hollow summit]

Saw this on marketplace for $99 might be a good deal rn

[orchid iron]

Dang, looks good

[hollow summit]

Yeah I'll pick it up

This is my desk

[orchid iron]

Beware of that fan on the floor picking up dust and making the air dusty

[hollow summit]

Getting a trolley so that's not a problem

[orchid iron]

Yesterday my good old laptop stopped working, couldn't turn on, completely lifeless, power would flow, but nothing happened

Press F to pay respects

Anyways, I removed the cable from the battery to the motherboard and now it works again

You either die a laptop, or live long enough to become a desktop

[wise elbow]

sub optimal!

imo L shaped desks are kinda annoying

they need to be big enough to have your whole setup on one side

[orchid iron]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wfr4QN1Hvhs

[wise elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-it's-peak-mid-it's-mid-shaking-head-gif-14930609437819582275

[orchid iron]

I like the puk

Very handy for repeated insertions

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/eC9bOVhCUzc?si=kbauBf0gxSzGWv2d

i like how easily it is to repair

[hollow summit]

Placed in the motherboard and cpu unfortunately I don't have the right bits for three things so I either gotta order a new kit or a new single screw driver

[fallen oasis]

Three things?

[orchid iron]

He can't unscrew the M.2 screws since they are of different size than everything else

[orchid iron]

Get a new screwdriver, the screws have specific length and width, way too annoying to replace them with the same head as everything else

[hollow summit]

Psu, nvme, and cooler brackets.

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/SJL4MWgr2Tc?si=OG3PwTkwLAl_bZ0O

I like the fact that the higher the tier, the more questionable the advice becomes because he probably never had money at or above 4th tier

I don't know about you, but if I have 128gb of ECC DDR5, I wouldn't pair it with AM5 xD

XEON, EPYC or Thread ripper at minimum, but still, I'm guessing he wanted final tier to have decent gaming perf...But I highly doubt the rich professional would play anything on that rig

(also, the motherboard of the last tier does in fact claim to support ECC ram in specs...how well it does it in reality, how well an AM5 supports ECC, ehhhh)

||Spoiler, those GPU prices aren't real ||

[wise elbow]

just buy an electronics screwdriver kit

[hollow summit]

https://a.co/d/0fhD1HJp

This?

[wise elbow]

something like that

[orchid iron]

Ayyy, I got a Jorest screwdriver kit, was really surprised how good it is for the the price

[hollow summit]

Does it do everything you need?

[orchid iron]

Yup, just make sure to take proper care of the bits, since they aren't rust-proof

[sick dirge]

EGS controller leaked

[orchid iron]

The duality of humans

[hollow summit]

My new set

Yippie

[orchid iron]

Looks so much better than mine because they all rusted away xD

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Eo2W8OgJG4o?si=Mj6-18evptjj8Cfu

Are you guys ready for Windows K2

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/VHbPCT2wFbA?si=ktTNm2vYbJlIusOn

So for rich people, GPUs are free basically, like actually free due to "The big beautiful Bill"

(in the US)

[subtle rock]

what are some good direct fit replacements these day for LGA1151

apart from the ⚰️

in terms of the cpu cooler we speak of

oem and nuctura seems like the only options

personally i would never use the ugliest cpu mounting system ever conceived courtesy of intel ™

but sometimes need must lol

[hollow summit]

Success

Time for the painful part

[orchid iron]

Step one, check in advance which cables you'' need

Step two, plug them into PSU

Step three, put PSU in the case (you already put it in advance, so remove it, because placing cables while it is already in the case is much bigger hassle)

Step three and a half, do your best to route them where the cables need to be plugged xD

[hollow summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gritito-gif-17274376822241272426

[subtle rock]

crazyiest build i did this year involved a chinese Case and even with a fully modular psu it was a absolute pain to plumb nicely

like the thing is just a disgrace in the hidden part where there psu lives

no way to avoid the birds nest... and that I really dont like.. it i feel like its risk of fire if something goes south

[orchid iron]

Thankfully he got an actually nice case in which good cable management is possible

[subtle rock]

yeah and god forbid you dont have flat cabling throughout

i had to buy the psu 24pin flat cable kit as it was a older unit

[orchid iron]

Oof

[subtle rock]

yeah lesson learned with that china case for sure

[subtle rock]

this was it
now it wouldnt of even been so bad if they had made the lower part a removable plate so you could get easy access to the modular psu when it was in there

bruh and rivit gun 🤷‍♂️

[orchid iron]

Did they put a 5090 in the image of this pc......that isn't connected to the PSU?

[subtle rock]

correct 😂

[orchid iron]

the GPU in the pc image gets as much power as this one xD

[grave sundial]

powered by DLSS 9.9?

[subtle rock]

also on account that they wouldnt of been able to close the case with the round style power loom

[orchid iron]

peak

[subtle rock]

in fairness to it .. while it is a oppe style abomination whos managerial style is unorthodox but appreciated .. with the flat cable it can be done .. if you had time to drill the rivits and retap and die it .. it would of been ok

[orchid iron]

It AI generates electricity

[grave sundial]

HDR electricity at 90,000 nits?

[orchid iron]

"Leather Jacket" edition

[grave sundial]

It's got a pretty look, gotta say.

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn27LU8CrFM

[orchid iron]

He has a Micro SD card! Get him!

[subtle rock]

i bet it claims it has some AI chip

[mighty patrol]

LTT shilling a neat app, https://www.appcontrol.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2uWv2qSTM

[subtle rock]

what does that cost $14k

well add a bit more screen width to that little concept and you could be onto something

but yep its just a laptop kepboard at best

[orchid iron]

speaking of laptop keyboards, anyone know which one is a good chiclet keyboard? (quiet laptop keyboard)

but on usb for pc

[mighty patrol]

Idk about laptop quiet but keychron were pretty decent last I looked

[orchid iron]

https://tech.jadispress.com/laptop-keyboard-to-usb

It is so frustrating that you can't just plug laptop keyboards right into usb and how to do so much

[subtle rock]

i am sure a adaptor could be soldered up fairly easily

make that shiz in kicad in like 5minz 😄

the worlds a crazy enough place you might probably find its exists already in pcb land

[hollow summit]

I can't believe they are out

[agile lodge]

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steam_hardware/announcements/detail/702141174212723353

[orchid iron]

it is the steam deck all over again

steam:

-does nothing: wins

-does something: wins harder

[mighty patrol]

Damn already.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gj1stcSckU

[median marsh]

10 minutes video about a 300 words twitter conversation 😄

[mighty patrol]

Apparently it was covered on the wan show that's like 2 hours

[orchid iron]

Funny enough Moore's Law is Dead shared that Intel Arc was effectively cancelled before battlemage was even released

But quite a few people didn't believe in that at the time

I also wanted him to be wrong, just that one time...I guess intel arc is gonna be added to the list of missed opertunities (intel wanted to make ram, ssds, phones, mini PCs and plenty more awesome stuff)

Funny enough, I still have a 1360p intel nuc and it still works today xD
Changed the thermal paste recently and it is incredibly quiet

[grave sundial]

I hope Lisuan becomes a worthy challenger at some point, even if it's just in China.

[hollow summit]

People still decided to buy intel cards

So I wonder what's gonna happen if they don't supply the people driver updates

[fallen oasis]

The trust in Intel will bottom out once again.

[hollow summit]

Perhaps one of the reasons why the cpus currently released by them were a bit cheaper

[orchid iron]

Same as old GPUs, they still function, but they'll lack some of the latest features

Found a Radeon hd 6610m, I'm about to game so hard on that

[hollow summit]

So at that point people are gonna try to buy as many as they can still and make mining cards?

[orchid iron]

Nah, they aren't good as mining cards, better to use recent GPUs because they are more efficient

They'll stay as good budget options

[hollow summit]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/702141174212725149](https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/702141174212725149

[mighty patrol]

https://wccftech.com/this-pcie-ai-accelerator-card-packs-384-gb-memory-run-700b-llms-240w/

[hollow summit]

Anyone getting the steam controller?

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05qYiRBXlXE

[white horizon]

Got two

Arriving monday

hyped

It'll go well with my couch setup

[hollow summit]

Nice!

I'm on the reserve list so I hope I get one

[orchid iron]

yoooo gg

[orchid iron]

best of luck

[hollow summit]

Ty

[fallen oasis]

Any recommendations for a wired keyboard with ultra-low profile, laptop-like, keys?

[orchid iron]

Already looked a lot for that, although my budget is quite small for a keyboard so I went with a low profile Perixx which was like 20€

If you had a much bigger budget like 100€ you might be able to find a better one

[fallen oasis]

I had a look at those and they sitll aren't very low profile.

They're less, sure but I found this:

For £45 (about twice hte price of the Perixx)

This is the perixx

Significantly lower profile even compared to that "ultra slim" perixx

[fallen oasis]

This is a Keychron B6 Pro Wireless Full-Size Keyboard (can be wired too)

[orchid iron]

yeah my budget was below 30€, explains it

[wise elbow]

There used to be Thinkpad USB keyboards that were basically just a laptop keyboard

[white horizon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1082103537963642952/1503533758286925945/d545cd29-27d4-43ea-b925-5e771fc84934.jpg?ex=6a03b26e&is=6a0260ee&hm=0dc7758e8261f693905290c9681ec582415f168bb0079d8f04f6fe220c13fca5&=&format=webp&width=985&height=1312

[tribal ruin]

This controller better than PS5 controller? for Different in game gestures and actions?

[orchid iron]

It is also half the price

[mighty patrol]

Stop I already want one

[orchid iron]

reserve it already then!
One per steam account that made a successful purchase before 26th of april

[mighty patrol]

Keychrons g5 mouse first

[orchid iron]

And that's how I got a controller before you :smug:

[mighty patrol]

It's alive! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBVXMjlQIyE

[hollow summit]

If you want once I get mine you can pay me a thousand dollars

It's a joke btw

Because ya know scalpers

[mighty patrol]

They are almost $200 here so

[hollow summit]

Apparently after taxes and stuff my controller will be $166

For the steam controller

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0pgWWFCvf6w?si=tq7YLzeSmVVP-ri7

Protect your ram

[subtle rock]

well.. thats one way to make a Core I cpu goto full performance mode

proceed to perform silverbench on it for 3 minutes

observe core 2 temp reporting shutting down

proceed to have cpu permanently @ 1.2w

ah nm thats lol... i just saw i am miss interoperating the instruments here ha

that kind of had me worried for a second 😅

why does stress testing a cpu feel like test day at reactor number 4

[orchid iron]

more bios variables = more fun

[subtle rock]

yeah thankfully that was not what i thought .. cumulatively that system draws about 22watts under light load .. its just the way coretemp do that layout

but yep defo gets it into high performance mode either way as you can see all the multipliers and every thing else jumped up to max

wont last for ever mind

fun caviat for us technicians have you seen these displays/tv's that literally switch off and then windows converts your remote display into a virtual one ?

like what in the actually fuck ? how do we turn this trash off?

[orchid iron]

Cough cough
||Install Linux on the smart TV||
Cough cough

[subtle rock]

haha 😄

[orchid iron]

FSR 4.1 AI pro max prime+ coming to 6000 series in early 2027

[orchid iron]

Has anyone tried 12v 2x6 to 8 pin adapters?

[subtle rock]

for what reason to connect to a Nvidia RTX A Series?

if so .. I havn't done it my self yet but i plan to, and i cant really see that it will be a problem assuming the psus rail can supply the cards needs

even if you look at the modern connector on the RTX 5's is just a pig tail that connects to the 2 6pins respectivily

[subtle rock]

has any one seen redhate/almalinux behaving in this following way, I have 2x 1Gbps links on it, I brought the second link up with ip addr and gave it a /32 ip address, every thing seemed to work straight out the box but then i noticed that iptraf was not reporting any traffic on the second device, so i then looked at the global traffic monitor on the box i see that the new ip's traffic is being sent to the first device

3: enp1s0f0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether fc:34:97:b1:4c:ea brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    altname enxfc3497b14cea
    inet 141.xx.xx.xx/24 brd 141.xx.xx.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute enp1s0f0
       valid_lft 79479sec preferred_lft 79479sec

4: enp1s0f1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether fc:34:97:b1:4c:eb brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    altname enxfc3497b14ceb
    inet 51.xx.xx.xx/32 scope global enp1s0f1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

[orchid iron]

The opposite, I'm thinking about buying a PSU that's pretty good, but I wanna hook up 2 GPUs that have each 3x8 pins, but the PSU only has 4xpin and that annoying 600w connector, so I was wondering if that 600w connector could be split to 2x8pins for the GPU

[subtle rock]

maybe a multiplier cable like this one

[subtle rock]

which gpu is it btw?

i think 275w is the heighst i've heard off so should work just fine

[orchid iron]

This one doesn't split from the 2x6 pins that you'd see from most Nvidia GPUs

I found some cheap old AMD accelerators, and I'll power limit them, but I need 3x8pins for each

So in theory the cable you provided could work, but I'd rather try to use the annoying 2x6 thing from the PSU instead of splitting the existing 8pins

[subtle rock]

yeah i noticed that actually you said 8pin and that is 6 pin

do any of these new psu have the hpwr connector directly on it?

i saw some hpwr to 3x 8 pin stuff

[subtle rock]

hm interesting found one

SAMA G850W ATX 3.1 Power Supply, 850W, Cybenetics Gold Standards,

then this guy

https://www.newegg.com/p/1W7-00PW-00229

but yeah curious if what the other guy said in in the hardware forum is true

note the connector states 450w
.. he was suggesting you wont be able to get the full 600w because it wouldnt be able to sense high demand mode

but yet you see all the wires present in the hpwr connector

but in any event i am glad you brought this up because i know what i want to do properly now

I can just HPWR Directly to 2x 4pin which is handy i guess for the A Series cards

fairly sure I just need that guy and extension to hpwr 12+6or either pci-e 6p on the psu side

[subtle rock]

Really annoying these A Series cards cant get a bit more love with the cabling and cooling stuff

[orchid iron]

This is the opposite of what I'm looking for, it is for powering GPUs with the 2x6 connector (12volt high failure rate connector)

[orchid iron]

This is a 6 pin to 3 different 6 pins
Not to be confused with the 2x6 12volt high flaming generation connectors

[orchid iron]

Yeah, I have this kind of PSU, it has a native 2x6 (high over amp conductor)

[orchid iron]

This is a 8 pin to 4 pin + 8 pin

[orchid iron]

I know right, the 12 volt high power thing is rated for 600 watts, so as long as there is an adapter, you could potentially bring it back to 3x8pin, even just 2x8pin would be enough

[subtle rock]

but yeah when i get some wedge i will order a few of these and have a play around

i got AMD RX480 that require 2x 8pin

i can test both our problems

so in theory i can simulate your circumstance but i only 2 of the 3

also furry x that is 2x 8pin if i am not mistaken

[orchid iron]

That's perfect, in my case I just need to turn that 600 watt to two 8 pins

[subtle rock]

i was wondering how it figures it out

it must need the little 4 extra wires

voltage differential 🪓

[orchid iron]

The 4 sense pins just sense each other and are senseless

I wish I was joking

Their whole purpose is for the PSU sense pins to sense the GPU side of the sense pins...

So in theory if they sense each other, that means the connector is plugged in properly...

Plot twist, the flame generator can still generate flames...

[mighty patrol]

Holy moley this looks amazing, https://vxtwitter.com/WebUndefeated/status/2056017393529557368?s=20

The Internet Remains Undefeated (@WebUndefeated)

What an sick build 😍

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[tribal ruin]

the Forbidden Liquid Theme set up 👹

[subtle rock]

i swear the next person who puts ARGB fan on arbitary pc hardware is going to get beaten serverly

christ on a bike even the psu gets 1 these days 😅

no point in having pcb traces .. just use smd argb leds to connect every pin of every chip together

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/K2IGHj7KQoM?si=SyxBSFFuxW31_Vmr

[orchid iron]

PSU cables got RGB-ed

[subtle rock]

yep and cpu heatsinks got screens 😂

lets put a screen on the chipset heatsink whynot!

like I dont mind screen on chassis's when it makes sense like that guys themed fallout build or a some type of rack that features a front panel touch screen but other then then that just stop!

i am sure they will come to realize not everyone wants it.. and starting making it optional and also kick the discount back to us for not wasting energy on just about every single front imaginable in the life time of a component

and creating additional failure points on the whole build

man that other build with the ARGB string is was jokes... when my pal got it he laughed .. and proceeded to put straight on a normal color 😄

[orchid iron]

my build only has a single light coming from it: the XFX logo on the gpu, everything else can barely be seen because I didn't remove the plastic tape from the glass panel xD

[weary scroll]

HI every one

I have bought a new CPU inte core Ultra 7 270K

And i have some strange marks on the top of it

Is this common ?

[orchid iron]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/joTM0WFqlKI

[orchid iron]

If it works, hardware monitoring tools say it is the correct product and the benchmark score of it is somewhat close to others with the same product

Then it is good

If not, then store warranty should replace it

[orchid iron]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k--tLRZLeNs&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1HQg%3D%3D

Everyone talks about only fans
But what about no fans?

[subtle rock]

why not the copper plumbing should be good for 10 years

must say not seen a single aio cooler fail unless it was user error related

or ups delivered it dead on arrival

[orchid iron]

What about bacteria goo spontaneously spawning in one

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6OaUa-m87fQ?si=xBm7uOjvwxkhL7wH

[subtle rock]

whats happening with this board

MSI PRO B760-P II

I dont get it .. if it does not do full bifurcations then why does it have 5x PCI-16 slots?

hrm i think i see whats happening (with out look at datasheet) .. you get 2x full speed ports and 3x? 8x ports

the main 16x gpu slots where blessed with a release tab

so what does that mean for the RTX 5000 and the A16 RTX in 1 pc? .. the RTX runs at full speed, the A16 runs 2 gpu cores at full speed and then the other 2 at 8x ?

[orchid iron]

@subtle rock nah it is even worse

The first slot gets the full 16 pcie 4 lanes

The other 4 different slots are all sharing chipset lanes, so basically they are all garbage unless it doesn't need much communication from the CPU

[subtle rock]

yeah puzzles me why they bothered with the full size pci-e slot for those if there never going to able to do

like the guy in the forum said perhaps msi are trying to hood wink us with this one

[orchid iron]

It does serve a use, if for example you have a lot of old pcie 2 GPUs or sound cards, pcie cards to m.2 adapters etc

Like the name suggests it is for pros, and very specialised pros at that

https://youtu.be/F0rjLXrDq68?si=Xpacqc6W962sBVoa

Moral of the story, don't send your 4090 to a fridge repair shop

[subtle rock]

lol

erase the evidence of his crimes!

and that nasty connector again

he just needs to find a good bussiness model for doing to the diagnostic

they can get a full report on demand and quatation for servicing the gpu for another 30 euro or something

other wise they just get the standard charge of 80 euros for him to do discovery

treat that shit like land surveying / except gpu 😄

i literally saw that comming when i looked at few HPWR connector gpu's recently

the fact that if it was the wrong way round its going to cause a major problem

but you do have to worry if ESD protection is being sacrificed on gpus and such to make them cheaper/more compact and such

i remember when motherboards where dropping like flies because of absolutely mininmal ESD

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pUuafGOFJs

[subtle rock]

life is likea box of chocolates a mater of perspective depending which ones you get ha

was super happy to recieve email from focusrite vindicating me 😄

thank god they did 🙂 or what i am doing ?

[agile lodge]

the case https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/masterframe-360-series.html

[orchid iron]

Yooo, nice

Cooler master does some pretty underrated cases

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUqQrlLV0tU

[orchid iron]

Remember, Jenson isn't a loser

[mighty patrol]

Never forget!

Everyone be mad at Nvidia not enough people mad at Jenson

[orchid iron]

I'm sure they are traumatized and crying with their 10k dollar bills as tear tissue

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/dAS9qZG0zTs?si=nbtVWYTeuZIYbywG

[orchid iron]

See what you do to solve the problem is that you just plug one of these to the GPU

Problem solved

These can do 230v 16amps
So that's about 3500 watts, which is about two Astral 5090

Meaning even if you live in America you can still pull 1 astral worth of power

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDanDwd7x0

[short bramble]

Hello all !

Anyone has desk lamps recommendations please ?

I had a basic desk lamp years ago and now on Amazon I see many new desk lamps, like a "bar" above the screen. Anyone has experience with this kind of lamp ?

[orchid iron]

I do have one like that, mostly same as normal ones, although, make sure it is a lamp where you can replace the light part of those kinds of lamps, would be a shame to throw away the whole thing just because it can't be repaired

[mighty patrol]

Ruh roh we lost Jay, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIizP104hyI

[grave sundial]

When Jay starts funding game studios, he can tell them to optimise their games AND give them sufficient time to do so.

Until then, NEED MOAR jee pee yoooo! 🤑

[orchid iron]

I like how he points the finger at game devs in his title, but they don't even choose how they invest work time in their jobs (assuming big game studios that are usually liked with UE 5 poor performance reputation )

[mighty patrol]

Plus its a small indie studio from Uzbekistan

Only so much they can do

[orchid iron]

oh that's even more sad

[short bramble]

Ok thank you very much !

[orchid iron]

Good news, turns out Nvidia data center GPUs like h100 and h200 use 8 pins!

Meaning they have maximum reliability and stability when we'll get them for cheap in the aftermarket

[mighty patrol]

I already saw some on ebay for decent prices

[subtle rock]

just discovered this
powercfg -duplicatescheme e9a42b02-d5df-448d-aa00-03f14749eb61

if its a a placebo its kind of a good one if the p-cores do not goto to sleep

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/_viuFhMwyZo?si=0-KXVEEk1S1RUGh0

I don't know about you guys, but a washing label is the last thing I'd imagine on a computer case xD

[subtle rock]

only logos on the front of the pc should psu / cpu realistically

just to let the purchaser know

the peal off jobbys

the shitty noctura kit for lga115x is holding at 65c

in the uk heatwave

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/Cc95H86NdDc?si=UhgcaopNDW8dTpZb

[subtle rock]

i know baffeling 5060ti wiht 3 fans why?

[orchid iron]

Higher overclocking potential

[subtle rock]

the 5060 is fine ... it doesnt need tweaking imo

for what it is in TI mode is fantastic

[wise elbow]

TI mode???

[subtle rock]

few mhz more

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/5TYB6uy4w7M?si=9hXZG0gGYCeyqN9L

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/ZoYeJwN7Rkw?si=SOWUDS5i4F0qqC5c

[subtle rock]

man when the crack heads figure out whats inside damn that will be sad times for them

they would have to install it into a secure bunker

[orchid iron]

yeah, bunker for each one of those mini data centers

helps reducing noise too

[delicate crystal]

the only two things never held accountable for their lies; politicans and AI

[subtle rock]

drill a big "ducb" for lack of a better acrynom and have them all inside that

as opposed to "dumb"

swap corporate with millitary

no body needs a nasty unit in there garden that way

and every things secure like Data Center

let the ai run that shit underground

then we above ground can keep our jobs right 😅

[mighty patrol]

Yay more AI drivers, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSOB7VGJuKw

I know I'm having fun

[orchid iron]

It's been a while we've had ai drivers, crazy we gotta use old drivers for more stability

Also the Nvidia fan boys crying and bleeding over bad AMD drivers are quite silent right now

[mighty patrol]

I've been a studio driver guy for a while.

I don't trust game ready drivers.

[mighty patrol]

My one buddy mains amd and has little to no issues.

Had some graphic artifacts on his old gpu but upgraded and fixed.

All my issues are usually os related

[orchid iron]

All my issues are usually Nvidia driver related xD

[subtle rock]

amds still my friend even though i did hate the full installer bloat

where amd has come to anoy me in the these times is that there making there once value added platform into a financial black hole that dosnt make much sense any more

the only single reason that ever existed which might be largely irrelevant these days was because of the SSE/SSE2/3 instruction sets on the intel making it the instant winner

[orchid iron]

What do these instructions do?

[subtle rock]

the equivlent of MMX and such just optimize memory transfers and such

some of its hardware accelerated computation

literally makes the code compile faster ™

[agile lodge]

coolermaster have some cool stuff

[subtle rock]

what sse really means for people on modern amd platforms is that old school games designed around sse instruction sets means is that your not going to be starting that windows app 😄

not with out the dev making a fixed version

 fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid mpx rdseed adx smap clflushopt intel_pt xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp vnmi md_clear flush_l1d arch_capabilities

Xeon for example lol

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/Gw7maXKA6qU?si=6CzvJMMfuHsBlziN

[subtle rock]

mass produced plastic basically

[orchid iron]

Instructions clear, buy 3 different Xeons

[subtle rock]

yeah just saying if one goes missing then it ruins the whole game kinda

or something gets addopted and then users get left out

and so on

4 different xeon's in a board with diverse instruction sets ?

why not

one dedicated to compute, one dedicated to crypto, one dedicated to 3d, one dedicated to some other bullshit

[orchid iron]

The 4th one is for RuneScape coin farm

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/CuioEfLtVyo?si=w0qneQGwru87bpmf

[grave sundial]

Da da, pwease tell us... what is dis Bwue Ray Drive? 🥹

Also, do people still use Bluerays?

[orchid iron]

Niche thing

But still gets used

[grave sundial]

For what though?

[mighty patrol]

To rip them to their plex server

Smh

[orchid iron]

Préservation, just like hé mentioned

Although disk rot exists, if an EMP or solar radiation wave hits a normal storage device, the bits will flip

But a disk is more physical, it isn't going to care much

[mighty patrol]

Lead shielding

[grave sundial]

I see.

[orchid iron]

It is not about the effectiveness, it is about the paranoia

[agile lodge]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/arc/g-series/handheld-gaming.html

[orchid iron]

Glad intel graphics became as polished as they are now

[rotund moth]

I'll get this started with a recommendation for component shoppers: If you're looking for hard-to-get components, in the US, and able to pick up from the store, I recommend looking at Best Buy. In my experience they have the best anti-bot systems in place.

I got a 3060 Ti from them on launch day with no issues.

[near raft]

Nice!

[kind talon]

@rugged wedge now you can discuss your 5950x build woes here ;P

[wind egret]

But mostly it shall be filled with Unreal-themed case mods.

[obsidian oak]

Might as well be the 5th message here

[rugged wedge]

yis 5950x or bust

[obsidian oak]

May god listen to you

[rotund moth]

Show me. This actually sounds pretty sweet. 👀

[rugged wedge]

there's actually a free discord server that's alerting people when stock fills up - for instance 3080 GPUs, 5950x CPUs, etc

US mostly

it's a battle against the scalper bots kind of thing

[rotund moth]

Nice. I still recommend Best Buy as the merchant of choice because the others, even if you get there right away, they aren't as well equipped to fight scalpers.

Best Buy uses a clever queue system. When you click Add to Cart, you're added to a queue and the button grays out. When it's your turn, the button turns yellow again and you can claim the item, then proceed to checkout.

[rugged wedge]

I remember when the server was including instructions on how to jump said queue - fun times :)

there's (was?) also one for PS Direct that you were able to jump

[rotund moth]

Here’s my workstation. Just built it in December.

I prefer subtle, single-color lighting. 🙂

[novel briar]

I think the only light I left on, is the one from the GPU... I tried to play a bit with the case led strips, but it was a hassle to make it work correctly.

[mighty cosmos]

Subtle colors he said...

[rotund moth]

Damn dude, look at those fans!

Actually a pretty cool gradient going on there.

[echo skiff]

oooo pretty

[novel briar]

Hmm... my box is under the desk. Hard to even notice such lights.

[late hound]

Here is my first post for my game dev station

[echo skiff]

impressive

[unborn pike]

where'd you get the tiles on the wall?

[late hound]

u can search "3D pvc wall panels" on amazon

[unborn pike]

lol amazon

meh, I guess they ship to Finland 🤔

I'd rather not buy stuff from amazon, it feels icky

[late hound]

i bought them on here(my country). but at the worlwide amazon can ship to everywhere, thats why i said amazon

[unborn pike]

cheers though

😄

[late hound]

U can try to search on your country first if u can

[mighty cosmos]

oo that looks nice

[late hound]

Thanks

[rotund moth]

Damn, very nice! I love the aesthetic.

[late hound]

Glad you like it

[rotund moth]

I really dig how the wallpaper on your desktop matches the wall panels.

Like they bleed together.

[late hound]

yep, even mousepad, case and the blending black-white wall at the left side.

at this image doesnt shown because its too wider

all designed by me

[mighty cosmos]

Yeah I really like the "sterile" look
Would love to have a setup like that one day

[late hound]

I hope you'll have

[mighty cosmos]

Currently don't have a room/enough space to do anything like that

[late hound]

I mean in the future, if you able to move to the new house

[mighty cosmos]

yeah, that's the plan eventually 🙂

[kind talon]

Wow that's fantastic! I hope you've flexed this setup on Reddit, gotta grab those internet points

[late hound]

i've posted on r/battlestations

but after decision i deleted it

no regret but

Just felt wrong when posting to public, its gonna shown up even google images. so i prefer to share in a certain(private-ish) group/discord or somewhere

[wet ore]

Does anyone have any recommendations on something like a sit stand desk? Or does anyone have any horror stories as to why you shouldn't get one? I need to do something about this back pain lol
https://www.amazon.com/ApexDesk-Electric-Adjustable-Controller-Off-White/dp/B079MM48JQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=0106standingdesks-20&linkId=3c63104ff98662323aa2e1a7426ab21d&language=en_US
https://www.autonomous.ai/standing-desks/smartdesk-2-business

[mighty cosmos]

@late hound Btw what are the PC specs?

[late hound]

Those desk can help to improve your back pain, but more improves comes from chairs.

[wet ore]

there are so many chairs out there, it's so hard to make a decision, my office chair broke recently and I'm currently sitting in a rocking chair haha

your chair there looks amazing, but I'm tall and definitely need adjustable arms

[late hound]

CPU: Ryzen 2700x(5950x soon ™)
GPU: RTX 3080 Gigabyte Vision
CPU COOLER: Cooler Master ML360R
RAM: Gskill trident z neo 16GB x2 Total 32GB
STORAGE: 2TB Seagate, 1TB samsung 980 PRO, 250G samsung 850 EVO 2x, 500GB Kezoll(?) M.2 nvme SSD
MOTHERBOARD: Asus TUF b450-PRO(maybe 670x soon?)
PSU: Corsair RM850w
CASE: TD500 Mesh

[wet ore]

ooohhhh how do you like the gigabyte version of the 3080?

[late hound]

i was lucky, at the november i found on legit store

with old msrp

[wet ore]

oh wow yeah super lucky! Great score! yeah that card is pre-bitcoin mining nerfed, that puppy right there could be sold for quadruple it's price just because of that alone, don't do it!!

I really didn't like gigabyte/aorus software, it was absolutely horrible, I wonder if they've updated it at all

[late hound]

i cant sell lol even its octaruple, because have no other gpu i cant open the pc if i would sell

im using msi afterbuner still. it doesnt matter about softwares

[wind egret]

*Ethereum mining nerf and NVidia's determination on that is wavering

[late hound]

imagine removing mining nerf by mistakenly

well it was happened, bad nvidia so bad..

[wind egret]

"mistakenly"

[rotund moth]

I use this desk and can recommend it. It's a hand crank so it's much cheaper than most. It looks nice and the legs are very heavy/sturdy. I've had it for a year or so and I love it.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/skarsta-desk-sit-stand-white-s89324812/

[wet ore]

I was just looking at this exact one!
How many monitors do you have on the desk?
When your fully standing, does the desk wobble bad/ do you need to push against wall to stop shaking? If no, are you taller then 5'10?

[rotund moth]

I have two 27" 4K monitors and my tower on my desk.

I'm 6'0" and no, the desk does not wobble much in stand mode.

I also have two bookshelf speakers, an audio interface, a small amp, a MIDI keyboard, and room for my headphones, mic, and a drink. It's a spacious desktop.

[wet ore]

Wow man! Thank you so much for sharing that, forget these fancy motor desks, that is exactly what I'm looking for, and exactly the space I'm looking for. I can't believe you can support all that weight on that thing, I bought one of those mini sit stand desk units you place on top of your desk and it broke within 6 months with just 2 monitors on it. Probably going to pick one of these up today lol
Cheers!

[mighty cosmos]

oh nice
Yeah I've been trying to get my hands on a 5950x for a few months now but can't find a single one 😐

[kind talon]

Only got mine because i stayed up on launch day for it (was 1 am launch here)

[wet ore]

Very tempted to fight to the death to grab one of those, but it's hard for me to stray away from nvidia and intel, since they both have UE features exclusive to nvidia gpus, and intel cpus

[kind talon]

Grab what?

[wet ore]

a 5950x

or a nice ryzen in general

[kind talon]

Only thing you will be missing out on is VTune (intel's profiler)

[wet ore]

it looks like intel has specific optimizations available to physics system, niagara and chaos destruction

[kind talon]

You shouldn't be missing out on those, those optimizations are SIMD specific and should be applicable on Ryzen systems as well

• the perf gain on the 5950x is ahead of intel's latest offerings

[wet ore]

Wow really? Nice thanks that is really great to know to plan next build. Looks like the only big thing then is Nvidia gpu features like DLSS for rtx scenes but I'm sure they will eventually have an AMD equivalent

[kind talon]

yeah DLSS is superb, here's hoping AMD's implementation is good!

[wind egret]

DLSS 1.0 wasn't so superb, I'm not expecting better for AMD's first outing.

They may have more time to perfect it, but without hardware acceleration (assuming NVidia's tensor cores actually work), some other compromise has to be made. Lower quality may be a better tradeoff than, say, worse performance or requiring bespoke support.

[frigid heath]

from what i hear AMD is goin to be dlss king

[wispy flare]

nvidia ?

yeah

but Intel ?

there is nothing really exclusive in engine to intel

[wispy flare]

If you are talking about ISPC

it's not really intel specific

it's meta langugue which the get translated to simd optimized C code

and it barerly used in engine

since you can really write that code by hand

if you can way I do recommend getting Threadripper if you can afford it

my only regret is that I bought poor 24 core

instead of 32

won't make that mistake again

[late hound]

@wispy flare who are you talking to bro

[wispy flare]

there is something you can click

to check

who im responding to ;p

[late hound]

Aboutblank? Thought someone just deleted messages

[pearl quartz]

Anyone know where I can buy a good hammer?

[shrewd shard]

Your local hardware shop has all the instruments to dispose of your old electronics

This message was brought to you by Your Local Iron Ltd

[wet ore]

valve has worked on making a good hammer for over a decade
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Getting_Started

[icy jewel]

Hello, anyone have thoughts on Nvidia Quadro 4000 vs 5000 for virtual production purposes? Knowing that both cards are a bit dated, we would love to go with the 4000 to get by and save a few bucks now. Thanks

[wind egret]

Anyone know where I can buy a bad hammer?

[frigid heath]

any1 know mc hammer?

[shrewd shard]

Welp, my dad doofused so hard

A week or so ago he got a new PC and I even went there and installed him a better CPU that I had lying around (had incompatibility with the mobo I planned it for), did some maintenance and it all worked great

But today he seems to have some some half-assed maintenance for some reason, managed to push down the memory slots and probs broke them because that PC no longer boots

Debug LEDs show RAM error, but after trying multiple configurations nothing worked, while the same sticks worked on my server perfectly

At least on the bright side he let me keep his bigger sticks and my server went from 18 to 24 GB RAM if anything while he'll try some stuff

[novel briar]

Look for physical damage on the board and the sticks?

[shrewd shard]

The sticks are perfectly fine

Put them all straight into my server, ran a memtest, all well

The mobo on the other hand, it's some weird shroud that directs airflow over the RAM and into the CPU

And he seems to have pushed down the shroud too hard while 2 of the sticks are over its height

[hoary urchin]

PC i built for my brother

yes no hard tubing, still not brave enough

[shrewd shard]

[mighty cosmos]

Looks awesome 👌

[novel briar]

Uhm... Looks like the case went under a truck?

[unborn pike]

it's a transformer

mobotron or something

[frank glade]

11900k is coming out this month, then in autumn a new socket again?? 👀

[novel briar]

Intel and new socket, name a more iconic duo

[mighty cosmos]

How tf is there a mention of PCI 5.0 already, I didn't think 4.0 is fully a thing yet 👀

[wind egret]

Releasing a standard is as simple as publishing a .pdf

Though if it's not a huge change, they might be capable of manufacturing it already. In which case the delay is AMD and Intel making CPUs that support it.

And just to drive you crazier... PCIE 6 should be announced this year.

[jagged void]

would you say UE is better on more Cores or higher clock?
And would anyone recommend a Ryzen CPU?

Im want to upgrade,

[rare cobalt]

cant go wrong with the ryzen 5000 cpus just get the one you are able to afford

i just got a 5900x

@jagged void

[jagged void]

so you are saying more cores vs clock speed?

[mighty cosmos]

both are equally beneficial but the important thing is that higher clock doesn't always mean better core performance

[kind talon]

Depends what you're doing the most of
For playing games and cooking you'll mostly want a higher clock
For shader compilation and code compilation you'll want more cores (obviously ideally the cores are reasonably clocked tho)

[shrewd shard]

A Ryzen 2700X is reasonably well rounded

6900K if you want to snag an equivalent, but higher end part for more PCIe lanes

(Obviously second hand)

2700X might be findable in retail

[shrewd shard]

If you're not on a budget, just grab a CPU you can afford

There's not much difference between Intel and AMD, the latter allows for more upgradability but that's about it

[sacred dust]

I am buying a mac mini and noticed a difference in model numbers with exact specs, does this mean anything?

Both
Z12N0000J
z12n000g0

Are mac mini m1 16 gb ram 256 ssd

[cloud stump]

absolute fastest rendering pc, unlimited budget, what would you buy?

[frank glade]

Gpu rendering? 4x 3090

[wind egret]

So a weaker Nvidia DGX workstation.

[wet ore]

when and why would you consider 128 gigs ram?

I'm not considering 128 gigs ram, I'm genuinely asking, what is even the point? I hear even big rendering is done with 32 gigs

[frank glade]

cad simulations, machine learning, ai?

[wind egret]

Two options:

1. Take anything big. Make it bigger. Now make it bigger than that.
2. You have a tool. If it used RAM efficiently you wouldn't need 128 gigs of RAM. Now remember it doesn't use RAM efficiently.

[fervent jolt]

10 years ago you would ask the same question about 32 gigs. 10 years from now you will probably ask the same question about 512 gigs.

[wind egret]

Only 512 gigs? That's not encouraging.

[fervent jolt]

but i mean even today some people here need 64 gigs just for compiling

the ones with... "equally sized" CPUs lol

[flat plinth]

In some cases, 32 is not enough with ue (particularly with open World games)

With unlimited budget, i think 128 ils n'ont that much ^^

[mighty cosmos]

I'm currently on 64GB
After opening the project together with Rider/VS it usually uses around 24GB plus any other stuff I have in the background

I was on 32GB and at times it felt barely enough

[thin mist]

https://twitter.com/archillect/status/1374283004005220358

Archillect (@archillect)

https://t.co/FLlR6zrXuQ

Twitter · Mar 23, 2021, 8:52 AM

[pure wigeon]

Hey guys can I get some recommendations? After a life altering data loss due to an SSD a few years ago. I bought an ssd again because UE4 is taking ages to open. Has anyone experienced any issues with SanDisk Ultra 3D 500GB nvme? what would be the best way to prevent any data loss?

[frank glade]

Source control for your projects?

[brazen mortar]

@pure wigeon get cheap nuc pc (even atom based should work), install p4 on it

p4 is free up to 5 users

[subtle sundial]

i think i mat still have the box ofr the ssd

ok nvm

but it was in the 100 price range

[fervent jolt]

Perforce isn't going to prevent drive/data loss. You do know you can put more than one drive into your computer right? backups are backups. Backup to anther drive to safeguard against hardware failure, backup over the internet/offsite to safeguard against theft/fire loss. Syncback SE is good for automating very simple local backups

@pure wigeon (or @subtle sundial ?)

For my day job professional work I do everything in a NAS with two drives in RAID-1 , I then use syncback at 2am every day to copy it to a drive local in my PC which also is connected to and automatically uploads to cloud storage

[dapper hornet]

Hey! I am planning to buy a new laptop soon, I would use it mainly for work (coding-programming) and some gaming (not newest games).
I don't want to spend a lot of money, but at the same time I prefer to get something durable that can be useful years ahead.
My biggest need is working with Unreal (compiling, good graphics, etc). Would you recommend something under 1000€ (aprox)?

[shrewd shard]

At best try to find a Ryzen laptop

But you'll have a hard time fulfilling half those things and it's up to you which ones

[novel wedge]

would an AMD RX 580 bottleneck a Ryzen 5950x?

[shrewd shard]

For any gaming task, yes

[novel wedge]

Then I don't mind. I don't play GPU intensive games

as long as unreal compiles fast I'm happy

[shrewd shard]

You'd be hard pressed to find a GPU that bottlenecks that

[novel wedge]

kek

[wind egret]

It's possible, in a backwards way. A strong enough GPU could demand too many draw calls, or it could starve the CPU of power, or stifle it with heat.

[dapper hornet]

would be worth it to invest in a desktop instead of laptop and/or wait a bit and save some money for something better? I am not in a hurry

[shrewd shard]

Currently everything's horrible

There's a chip shortage for everything

[frank glade]

Laptops with 3000 series gpus are ok priced. Ive seen 3070 s that cost as much as a laptop with a mobile 3070 😆

[rugged wedge]

does anyone want to pin a minimum configuration for working w/ ue4 c++?

I could redirect ppl here from #cpp in case they're in doubt

stuff like min 16gb of ram, cpu xyz, gpu xyz etc.

[dapper hornet]

I think there is an article about the topic on the wiki, iirc

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Basics/RecommendedSpecifications/index.html

https://www.ue4community.wiki/recommended-hardware-x1p9qyg0

[rugged wedge]

yeah no

[dapper hornet]

:D

[rugged wedge]

seriously?...

[dapper hornet]

the second I linked is more realistic

[rugged wedge]

many knowledge, much wow

that's not even hardware :P

[dapper hornet]

:D

😂 😂

[novel briar]

I knew someone who was running UE4.26 on 4 GB. Slow, but working for small scenes.

So, depends on what you want to do.

[rugged wedge]

that's really below min spec though

[novel briar]

Yep, imagine with 8 🙂

[rugged wedge]

like I said, min spec for working w/ c++

min spec != potato

[novel briar]

Anyway, at some point I gifted him one of my old kits 2x16. Happy af

[rugged wedge]

I used to be able to run Red Alert on a 386 but really should have been running it on a 486

[novel briar]

Well, the hw config is quite flexible.

[rugged wedge]

imo, min spec right now is around a 4770k and 16 gb of ram

(for working w/ c++)

it's far from ideal

recommended is probably a current gen middle class intel/amd and 32 gb ram

[novel briar]

Maybe replace with GHz and cores.

[rugged wedge]

but I'm not good at hardware so don't want to be making recommendations

but I do want to point people at good ones :P

[novel briar]

I think with 8 you will be fine for coding. Minimal spec. Recommended is another story 🤔

[rugged wedge]

8 is abysmal

8 == potato

[novel briar]

Yeah, but it runs. Problem is it is hard to draw a hard line.

[rugged wedge]

my mom's computer has 8 gb

[novel briar]

That's why it is minimal. I think recommended is what you are trying to nail.

[rugged wedge]

I occasionally try & compile my game on it and usually end up leaving it on overnight

[novel briar]

lol

Think recommended will be like 32 RAM and 8/16 CPU say 🤔

[rugged wedge]

maybe there's a split for when you want to start working w/ engine source

for dealing w/ the engine in general I'd say 64gb and a current gen intel/amd that's not top of its class

[novel briar]

Aah, even then is fine. How frequently you recompile the whole engine? It is rare to do full rebuilds.

[rugged wedge]

you'd be surprised

[novel briar]

From you - no.

In practice most ppl avoid tinkering the UE code.

Even if you add plugins or so, just the touched files are recompiled.

I mean it is not worthy to fix on that. Ofc, for some workflows you need powerful machines - true.

[rugged wedge]

I think a lot of people are put off by the amount of time they'd need to spend just compiling stuff to make meaningful changes in engine code

and if it becomes a "fact" that you need what they thought was a powerful PC then they might give it a second chance

since you know, they might have assumed they can get away w/ a potato

[novel briar]

Well, maybe, but if you look at the Epic's repo, it is overwhelmed with Merge requests. If they are more, it will be even harder for them I guess 🙂

[rugged wedge]

?

[novel briar]

"a lot of people are put off by the amount of time they'd need to spend just compiling stuff to make meaningful changes in engine code" - quoting you

Changing the engine code is not the general target I would think.

On the other hand maybe a hardware config can be split on: minimum, recommended and engine coder 🙂

[rugged wedge]

yeah

ok now you can come up w/ them

[novel briar]

Nah, I just drew the plan.

[shrewd shard]

16 GB I'd 100% recommend for C++

It was a pain on my 8 GB laptop

[wet ore]

someone here does remote compiling over their local network, the remote has one of thems fancy 32 core threadrippies, must be nice

[shrewd shard]

I do combined compiling with Fastbuild, it's pretty nice

Reduces build times to a tea break's time

[novel briar]

Is that just distributed compilation?

[shrewd shard]

Pretty much

[novel briar]

Out of your local machine, I mean.

[rugged wedge]

I've had nothing but bad experiences w/ fastbuild

[shrewd shard]

Yeah, both main PC and server compile at the same time

[rugged wedge]

it eats 2x the memory as msvc alone and is real slow tbh

[shrewd shard]

Tho I did have to get a 2.5 gbps network going since 1 gbps wasn't cutting it

[novel briar]

What is your pc and your server?

CPU

[shrewd shard]

Ryzen 2700X/Xeon X5680

(It's technically a 2700 non-X but it's OCd to 4.1 GHz all core)

[novel briar]

Uff... Like cores/ht/ghz

[shrewd shard]

8c16t @ 4.1 GHz for 2700, 6c12t @ 3.7 GHz for Xeon

[novel briar]

Hmm... Not bad

[shrewd shard]

Tho in real testing, the Xeon is pretty much half the power of the 2700

Even if the GHz are close

[novel briar]

I can imagine, tech moves

[shrewd shard]

I mean, it's a 2011 CPU vs a 2017 CPU

No wonder IPC would be better

Still love that CPU tho, has been really solid

Hosted Valheim, Arma, Minecraft, other servers

[wet ore]

I used to use VA, fastbuild and incredibuild both had issues that caused unexpected behavior with VA. I use rider now but have never bothered to try fastbuild ever again

[novel wedge]

It's the worst time to try to buy a gpu. Linus Tech Tips said that it would take at least a year for GPUs to go back to their normal prices.
There are some discords servers that messages when a decent priced GPU is up for sale, you just turn on notifications. You'd have to search/ask for those servers though maybe in r/buildapc because I lost the links to them. Just have in mind that those GPU advertised on those discord servers are sold in less than a minute.

[shrewd shard]

6900XTs are available here for not totally absurd prices

Sadly nothing else that's worth it is

Also check physical stores too

If possible that is

They occasionally have a few cards that aren't up online

I see

Still, do check physical stores if possible

A couple blower style 3090s were available at a local one

[wind egret]

3090 was $1500 USD msrp and would be a steal below $2000 these days.

[shrewd shard]

I didn't check for lower models, I was surprised 3090s were in stock in the first place

[wind egret]

Unfortunately the only way to reliably get those for MSRP would be to use a purchasing bot. There might be free ones, but I don't trust them with a credit card number, so no bot for me.

Otherwise it's a lottery every day where you hope you refresh at just the right second on the right site when a drop happens and abuse the fastest possible ways to checkout. Zotac is a popular one.

[shrewd shard]

Crypto isn't that much the problem for GPU shortage tbh

The entire world is short on chips

There's too much demand for how much supply is

[wind egret]

Without crypto the shortage would have been modest. There'd be cards in stock, and not for these kind of premiums.

Some miners can make the card's MSRP back in only a few months, and then sell them used for decent prices. It's a guaranteed profit. So every miner is purchasing as many as they can get below a certain threshold. When there's no limit to how many they're willing to buy, there's no amount you can have that won't be a 'shortage'.

Email is slow. The cards don't sell out in minutes, they sell out in seconds.

I knew I should have bought a Radeon VII when I had the guts for it.

AMD's stock issues are worse. They're not as good at mining, but their manufacturing budget is also going towards the PS5 and Xbox Series S... and guess what the situation for those is.

[novel wedge]

seems legit, I wonder how much would I have to pay for shipping and customs to South America

[devout pendant]

Hahaha ok Imma remove their domain so it will not get out of stock because of me

[novel wedge]

you could ask around if they're legit

it's not looking good for that site

[wind egret]

According to a couple sources, bitcoin is the only functional payment method. If that's the case, it would a red flag that's hard to miss.

On a less dire note... When is that 3080 Ti coming out?

If your budget is $850, I'm on his side.

[frank glade]

whack, 1150$ barely gets you a 3060 here. 3080 is in stock but its 2700$

[wind egret]

Scalper prices. Not great, but at least they're available if you need a GPU more than you need a kidney.

[frank glade]

its at the point scalpers have them for cheaper now. all legit sellers have these insane prices 😬

im queued on the evga shop where theyre still decent

[keen hemlock]

https://www.ebuyer.com/1139379-msi-radeon-rx-6900-xt-gaming-x-trio-16gb-graphics-card-rx-6900-xt-gaming-x-trio-16g

[glad path]

I'm looking for a laptop to develop on. I'm thinking https://www.newegg.com/black-msi-gl-series-gl65-10sek-022-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834155402?Item=N82E16834155402. Anyone have this that can tell me if they like it? or does anyone have a suggestion for a different laptop?

[agile lodge]

hmm Rocket Lake CPUs now available

[eager flume]

Hey is anyone running their own render server?

I've reached the point where I need to expand my storage and I'm considering a home server - and thinking it might not be bad to have it also do some rendering.

[frank glade]

Looks like a dud

[wind egret]

STILL 14nm!?

Newegg rocket lake comes with free pen/screwdriver though. Tempting.

[agile lodge]

rocket lake is like step to the better

10-14mm what they have

[wind egret]

It has PCIE 4 and 20 lanes, but the clock speed doesn't seem better.

I thought by now they'd have 10nm and at least whispers of 7 or 5.

[shrewd shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxiuvQPL_qs

[shrewd shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jVAfk4AG3A

Reviewers going to town

[novel briar]

Weren't we waiting for Adler?

[hoary urchin]

aww poor intel

had the industy for years, amd kicks its ass and now its rushing to release stuff to stay relevant, and look like they are doing good things

Intel are just slowly loosing it

AMD server cpu's are also giving intel a bit of a hard time

[shrewd shard]

Intel doesn't win at anything anymore except availability

AVX512 is too niche for the moment too, not like it's very efficient to run the CPU at 300W anyway

Pretty sure you can find a Threadripper at the same wattage that can emulate the performance

One thing I wonder tho, what happens with lower end PSUs

All the reviewers had some pretty hefty PSUs and looking at those turbo boost Watts, I feel like Intel won't have the same performance in a slightly more realistic scenario

[wind egret]

Since there's no GPUs available, PSUs are breathing a sigh of relief.

j/k they're being put to work in the mines

[mighty cosmos]

intel needs to take their time, even like 3-4 years without new cpus if that means they can develop something that can compete with amd

[wet ore]

any recommendations on a 4k monitor for color/image accuracy?

I bought a samsung 4k monitor that was supposed to support RGB4:4:4/12bpc/full color output, but the blacks had a green tint, calibrating the monitor, ICC profile, GPU color settings weren't enough, I think it may have been defective. But when I went to install samsungs official driver for the monitor, it locked the monitor at YCbCr420/8bpc/limited color output. This and the greens leaking into the blacks was both on HDMI 2.0 and displayport 1.4, I have a few different of these cords all I know support this output so I really do think it's the monitor.

[hoary urchin]

optimal setup is subjective

My rig is a 3950X, RTX 3080, 64GB ram, 6x NVMe drives, 2x normal HDD, MSI Godlike X570

[novel briar]

Da hell you are doing with 8 drives?

[shrewd shard]

Stuff

Though doesn't it all bottleneck the hell out of your system?

[novel briar]

Why would they? It sure is a pile of drives which can't be utilised at once.

[shrewd shard]

I guess it's not an issue if they aren't in a raid

[hoary urchin]

my pc

@shrewd shard @novel briar i have used all my pci-e lanes tho 😦

had to disable onboard wifi on the mobo

[shrewd shard]

Oof

Well, maybe not an oof if you don't use it

I assume you have at least gigabit

[hoary urchin]

yeah it has a 1g and 2.5g built in

[shrewd shard]

Nice

[hoary urchin]

got the 10G card, but don't have it installed

[shrewd shard]

Had to buy my 2.5g but it's been serving well

Nice to have a main gaming PC and then 2.5g to a server with kphjillion drives

Though none of them SSDs, for obvious reasons

Still useful for backups and games tho

[hoary urchin]

need to get my NAS setup

i have a dell server, which is kinda acting like a NAS 😄

but it also does compiling, etc

[shrewd shard]

Same for me here, except it's an HP

At least the mobo

I wanted to setup raid but basically every drive is different capacity

1, 1.5, 2, 4 TB and it sucks

Next time I look for hardware I'll be mostly looking for high-end stuff

Being limited by lanes sucks big time

[hoary urchin]

kinda wished i got a threadripper

those extra lanes would have been sweet

[shrewd shard]

Esp for NVMe, absolutely

[novel briar]

Hmm... Afaik, that shouldn't be a problem? I mean even if you have more lanes than necessary, the good ones go into the CPU, the rest pass through the bridge which schedules them.

[fluid crown]

I plan to mostly do 3D rendering and at most virtual production with UE4, wanted to know if 2 less cores with the R5 3600 can do the job or just go extra with an R7 3700.

[shrewd shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQSBj2LKkWg

I have forgotten to read UB's reviews at the bottom, but these are a gold mine

[shrewd shard]

Try to grab the 2 extra cores if possible, they help a lot for shader compile

[fluid crown]

I hear ya, thanks man.

[tiny lily]

What do you think about Western Digital's SSDs?

How long it lives and what about it's speed and quality

Also, M.2 NVMe vs SATA III SSDs?

[frank glade]

Theyre pretty good

[fluid crown]

SSDs will usually last longer than HDDs, the only difference between M.2 and SATA is form factor

[frank glade]

I think ADATA was the one to avoid recently, I think they downgraded performance for their ssds sneakily

[frank glade]

And 3500 mbs vs 650 mbs max speeds? 😀

[fluid crown]

M.2 will be slighty faster but not a noticeable difference compared to sata

[frank glade]

I think the question was about m2 nvme drives, on pcie

[shrewd shard]

Western Digital is the equivalent of SanDisk ones

Pretty good

Just make sure to grab an SSD with cache, those tend to get lower latency and higher longevity in my experience

[tiny lily]

Thanks for you answers! i will take WD Blue M.2 NVMe i think

[novel briar]

https://i.redd.it/82796yoe36r61.jpg

Nvidia fans to drool over

[kindred pollen]

15 per row, 20 rows = 300,
I think I see 3070 on 1 package, that's 500$ each
just casually moving 150.000$ around on a 3 wheel car,
there is no way that's real 😅

[unborn pike]

bitcoin was a mistake

[wind egret]

Not getting into bitcoin was a mistake. Could probably afford that entire palette.

[shrewd shard]

[unborn pike]

D:

[viral warren]

can anyone recommend some affordable and good 1tb m.2 ssd's?

[prime loom]

Samsung 980 PRO M.2 PCI-E Gen4 NVMe SSD 1TB

Depends on your definition of affordable, SSDs these days are really cheap.

[viral warren]

237 is a bit pricey for me, looking for something closer to 150

[frank glade]

Whatever you get, check your mb compatibility. I have one I just cant use, completely invisible

[shrewd shard]

The Adata SX8100/SX8200 are good money for the price

However I have been noticing that memory has been getting more expensive the past few weeks

[novel briar]

"more expensive" is like deja vu since.... half an year+

[shrewd shard]

Yeah, memory went wack again

I wanted to grab the same memory kit for 32 GB total but it turned out to be +50% more expensive or something like that

[novel briar]

Depends where you look at, you can find good deals. I sold my old kit still for good price on the local ebay.

[wispy flare]

In threadripper you have 64 pcie lanes from CPU