hardware

[plush turret]

yeah exclusively

they are pretty much a collection of outlet stores, which arent as price gouging as the rest because they deal in bulk and direct selling

most of their prices are even better than amazon with prime

[violet spade]

figured out my mouse's erratic movement issue

for some reason extremely high dpi settings were added into the dynamic DPI change scale, prly some stupid Logitech GHub update lol. I was accidentally changing it and then changing it back without realizing when trying to sort it out

[versed fox]

I read that as "mums erratic movement issue" 😭

[violet spade]

Nothing can fix that one sadly

[fallen oasis]

alzheimer's effects us in bad ways

[fervent jolt]

dynamic dpi/mouse acceleration is one of mankinds' worst inventions and no you cannot change my mind

[mighty patrol]

What about mouse smoothing 😛

What it's so good though look at what it's done for competitive gaming.

[fervent jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/out-the-office-steve-carell-leave-gif-7507154

[forest jay]

So I ran into a little wall w my build and miscalculated the case w my gpu and it’s cooler 😢 but assuming it’s not the end of the world I’m just gonna finish building as is and not close the lid turn it on and transfer to a bigger case at another date because I need it for some big renders. Not a big deal right ?

[frank glade]

There are some adapters to fit the gpu vertically, they fit in 5 or 6 slots in the back, maybe worth a try

[forest jay]

@frank glade I think the problem w space is my cpu cooler is jamming everything up 😫

Or do think these adapters you speak of may be compatible? Itd help so much if it was 🙏

[violet spade]

Your cpu cooler is sticking out, and those gpu cables can prly not be bent enough safely, you prly need a new case

I wouldn’t wait too long, having no lid on means you can’t attain proper positive pressure so you’ll have a bit of an airflow issue ironically, and also there’ll be lots of dust coming in

[frank glade]

Idk look up "vertical gpu brackets"

[median marsh]

riser cards are meh

get a bigger case

[frank glade]

Bigger cases are meh

[frank glade]

This is the way. I used a mITX case with a NH D15 for a while, but now it's a 280mm rad squeezed in there

[fresh fog]

I've seen HVAC systems that are smaller than the NH-D15 :P

[naive cloak]

Noctua will release NH-D15 Gen 2 soon 🤩

you use AIO?

then what?

its half of NH-D15 basically

is there flexible "heat tubes"? something like that picture but I want to be able to "route" them to specific location

I know I can use water cooling loop with soft tubes but it will cost too much

[forest jay]

So with my current setup of a nh-d15 and the msi suprim x liquid and the case it’s in could I make it work w a vertical bracket or would I need a smaller cpu cooler like the nh-u12s? I need to figure this out I don’t want a bigger case those things are ridiculous more so than the size of my nh-d15 me thinks 😬

[forest jay]

Could I go like 1 month till I swap to either new case or different arrangement with it open and be ok you think? I need to get it on and rolling for some bigger renders than my small setup can handle for a client

https://www.nox-xtreme.com/en/chassis/hummer-zx this is the current case plus I’ve got a z790 msi tomahawk mb and msi suprim liquid x and that nh-d15 and 2 48 gb ram sticks in the space need to Tetris stuff around if possible w out ordering a new case and all ur executable solutions are valued tremendously 🙏🙏🙏

[forest jay]

I’ll stock up on air duster for now I guess

What dimensions width wise would be adequate ? I see this msi mag case that advertises it fits the gpu i have but it’s crazy taxed for what it is looking for something half or quarter the price

[violet spade]

Careful with that too. When cleaning fans, hold them with your finger, don’t let the air spin them

[forest jay]

Will it break the fan if I don’t hold it w a finger to clean ?

It’s good to know

[violet spade]

You can mess up the bearings. Pretty sure I did that to one of my fans before I learned that

[forest jay]

Got it thanks for letting me know

[naive cloak]

not only bearings, if the fan will spin very fast it will generate electricity and it can damage the board

[naive cloak]

some details about RTX 50 series "leaked"

it will probably be so huge that we will install MB in it instead of installing it on the MB

[solid scaffold]

Hi, If yo uare working with Alembic cahes and Grooms (characters) what does unreal need to handle that ? GPU power ? Vram ?

[median marsh]

both

groom is rendered on GPU but you'll still need CPU power for the physics (collision)

and alembic cache... no idea probably mostly CPU 🤷

[fallen bough]

review pls?

[fallen bough]

I'd personally also swap the PSU
with which one

something non asus thats 850w is fine?

[carmine flicker]

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Gaming-6-Stream-Router/dp/B08FWNNWTB/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=lxFa3&content-id=amzn1.sym.d0ebfbb2-6761-494f-8e2f-95743b37c35c%3Aamzn1.symc.50e00d6c-ec8b-42ef-bb15-298531ab4497&pf_rd_p=d0ebfbb2-6761-494f-8e2f-95743b37c35c&pf_rd_r=7NQ13B51YT5QSYJWG8P3&pd_rd_wg=ggSfe&pd_rd_r=80be7a7e-ecf7-49eb-b8a5-3776338e0e91&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m

You guys see that insane deal?

Just thought I might mention it for anyone needing a upgrade

[violet spade]

Or you know, plug Ethernet cable in and get the actual advertised speed

Wifi6 is old news already, and it’s not as great as they make it out to be

[carmine flicker]

It's 46% off

[median marsh]

just buy a microwave at this point

[naive cloak]

you have i9 13900/14900?

maybe you have this: https://www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm but before you try something wait for someone else to reply I dont know much...

[plush turret]

i did notice my computer with a wifi6 card did get 2x the speed of my wifi 5 card laptop

on the same wifi, with the same distance

[serene dome]

my computer with a wifi6 card
Desktop?

[plush turret]

yeah

i did load a wifi6 card into an ancient gen 6 i5 laptop and got the same speeds as the desktop

[serene dome]

The Wifi 6 card just has better hardware. I'm assuming it's using more spatial streams

[naive cloak]

what is the point of 14900KS? to bankrupt the owner?

[fervent jolt]

"In one ... the i9-14900KS consumed 31 percent more power than the i9-14900K for a less than 1 percent performance gain" lmao

[mighty cosmos]

Soo you might need a separate 1000W PSU only for your Intel cpu

[fervent jolt]

my next pc is going to have a real functional diesel exhaust stack attached to it. roooooolling cooooal

[mighty cosmos]

https://youtu.be/2RrxAUBJaXs

[fervent jolt]

that little toyan engine is wicked

[naive cloak]

but wait, its not that simple lol, because this CPU gets really hot fast, coolers cant handle 400W heat so it starts throttling and performance go down to the level of 14900K or less 🤦‍♂️
I spent like 2 hours thinking about who will buy this CPU, maybe only rich people who want more letters in CPU name...

[jaunty cedar]

can someone type wmic path win32_computersystemproduct get uuid in cmd for me
and show me what you get
and tell me what motherboard u have

[violet spade]

And also just need your social security and your cc number

[fresh fog]

don't forget the location of your house key and approximate location of all family members

[fervent jolt]

what's in it for me, asking for a friend

[jaunty cedar]

i just need the format tho

you cant even do anything with that number

im pretty sure

[sharp pumice]

Are NVidia super cards good? I've been thinking about GPU upgrade for quite a while and can't decide between 4070 ti super, 4080 super and 7900 xtx.
I'm also considering buying cheaper card like 7800 xt for half a price of above cards and wait for rumored AMD cards that promise to be really cheap and efficient.

[violet spade]

Depends on the card and your needs prly

[naive cloak]

rumored AMD cards will probably be "scalped", out of stock and overpriced...

[devout pendant]

Hi there, I'm planning to change my computer really soon, I'm currently doubtful about what CPU brand choose for UE & software development in a whole, same for the RAM, I don't know whether 32 or 64GB would be sufficient. (I have no budget limit btw, just want the fastest thing for development.)

[mellow galleon]

i'd say amd ryzen and 64gb ram, gpu based on your primary focus (graphics = high spec, coding = med spec)

intel smart hybrid heaters are kinda joke rn when trying to 100% load them

[devout pendant]

which is the best between 64gb ram quad channels (4x 16GB) and dual channels (2x 32GB)

[mellow galleon]

2x32, because you can bump it later to 4x32

[devout pendant]

Yeah true 😄

For the AMD CPU I guess 7950X is the best on the market atm ?

[mellow galleon]

you dont need best

5900 compiles engine in 25 minutes, 5950 about 20

i guess newer would be better

i'm satisfied with 5900

[devout pendant]

The website where I build the computer only sell ryzen 7000 and 8000 series :/

[mellow galleon]

then 7900 or 7950 if you want that extra $ to burn

[devout pendant]

Alright, thanks

[median marsh]

the dual channel is better because it gives you room to upgrade to 128 :>

[violet spade]

You mean other cpus can’t handle quad ?

Ah right it’s pairs of 2

https://tenor.com/view/who-what-confused-korath-the-pursuer-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-14735440

I doubt this person knows little about UE

I’ve seen such blasphemous posts before but as they say on Twitter, that was not “my truth”

[little relic]

i5 1250h and ryzen 5 7640hs, which best for unreal engine 5

Intel

I searching for ue5

[mellow galleon]

second one has only 512gb drive, kinda small
do they support getting one more ram stick to get 32 ?

[violet spade]

If you’re purposely buying a laptop for game dev, it’s already an uphill battle

[mellow galleon]

i personally do want to get own powerful laptop for temporary workstation, since i'd have to travel quite a lot and carrying pc is not an option in postapocalyptic country

[median marsh]

rent colocation space, put your workstation there, buy chromebook and work remote

[mellow galleon]

it does not exist

i use 30kbps lte internetrn

[median marsh]

a powerful laptop?

oh

[mellow galleon]

to get access to proper internet speed i need to travel to russia
travel to dl unreal, travel back home, repeat

[median marsh]

are you in germany, too?

[mellow galleon]

in 20km from frontline

[median marsh]

oh

i hope you got cloudbackup at least

considering that the situation sounds like you got to leave any time 😦

[mellow galleon]

i dont have anything to backup, our office is gone (marauded), luckily all things were on encrypted veracrypt drive so at least wont get out

[violet spade]

Is Starlink shut off there now?

[mellow galleon]

afaik it does not connect, but in general marked as illegal

[violet spade]

Cause politics?

Ig Elon said some stupid shit and Zelenskyy got mad at him?

[mellow galleon]

why bother spending money on starlink when you could get 1gbps unlimited traffic wired connection for 10$/mo

[violet spade]

Cause… it’s Russia?

It’s not dangerous to travel back and forth?

[mellow galleon]

no

[violet spade]

What about the voting at gunpoint stuff

[mellow galleon]

fake, i'm laughing from the news

[violet spade]

“In war, the first casualty is truth” - Call of Duty from an actual quote I can’t rmbr

[naive cloak]

I thought Starlink was given to Ukraine not Russia 🤔

In war, truth is the first casualty. It's a military maxim attributed to Aeschylus, the father of Greek tragedy.

[violet spade]

It was, but he’s saying he’s in Ukraine. Didn’t say whether occupied side or not tho

[naive cloak]

probably in the occupied because I dont think it would be possible to just travel from UA to RU and then back

is he works at GSC game world? 🤔

[thick matrix]

@coarse hollow how u doing with the 3060 so far?

[coarse hollow]

I have not really had any issues, but i also have not made huge populated cities or anything., sometimes I drop slightly below 30FPS in Editor, but that was running the Nvidia RTX branch with everything on @thick matrix

[thick matrix]

well im already happy when i can do large landscapes without crashing xD

[coarse hollow]

you can alwys turn on DLSS if it gets slow

[thick matrix]

my gpu doesnt really support it xD

[coarse hollow]

That shouldn't be much of an issue with the 12GB model 3060

[thick matrix]

im on a GTX 1650 S currently

[coarse hollow]

Yeah, that will crap out on the basics in UE5, the 1650

[thick matrix]

so im looking to upgrade to a 3060

but on the bright side, i learned a lot about optimization xD

[coarse hollow]

I was running a 1050 before the 3060, so night and day difference for me

but, i would say, if it comes down to speed vs VRAM in your card choices, go for the more VRAM

[thick matrix]

i paid more for my 1650 during covid than the 3060 costs now 🤡

[coarse hollow]

Ouch!

[thick matrix]

yeah but usually SSD speed is the bottleneck these days xD

[coarse hollow]

granted, without the rest of the machine keeping up, the video card is a moot point

I use my 1050 to run local Whisper or small LLMs now

[thick matrix]

really expensive to make a perfect systems these days

i will need at least 3000€

so i rather pay 300 for a patchwork upgrade xD

[coarse hollow]

mine is not bad, i got it for about $1400 after everything was said and done. i9-9900K at 4.7GHZ, 64GB RAM, 12GB 3060, 800W PSU, case, 1TB NVME primary, 2TB NVME secondary drives

the speed of these drives is insane in some cases. 1.8TB per second. Of course, as usual, a bunch of small random files will bog them down

[thick matrix]

my system isnt too bad in general, just the GPU is crap xD

[coarse hollow]

you are running nvme ssd, or ata ssd?

[thick matrix]

just ignore the pagefile using more than available lol

[thick matrix]

not sure actually

guess its nvme?

[coarse hollow]

I don't think so, i am pretty sure that is SATA

ok, to be specific, i am not sure what the Core is, but i think that is sata Bus, not the hyper fast onboard bus that the m2 uses (forgive my terminology, i have not been a tech in a couple decades, and i do not talk computers that often

[thick matrix]

i mean im using SATA cable so yeah xD

no idea whats nvme or ata actually lol

[coarse hollow]

but, that drive is plenty fast. the new video card should be used to full capacity

[thick matrix]

yeah and they also last very long

at least the kingston ones

[coarse hollow]

I am not going to even try to explain it 🙂 best to just do a search instead of getting my broken info

https://www.pcworld.com/article/432532/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nvme.html

[thick matrix]

ohh so its that new ones that go directly on the mobo?

[coarse hollow]

indeed, you can get a 1TB for under $100, everyday now

i suppose the real question is, does you MB support it, and does that CPU/BUS have the capacity to run it, and your new video card at full speed

[thick matrix]

yeah thats the thing, i probably need a new mobo for that

[coarse hollow]

well, you have basically the fastest SATA available, so i would not worry at this point, the new video card will make it feel like a new machine

[thick matrix]

yeah im quite happy with my SATA SSD for now, just the GPU needs an upgrade

but SATA can become a bottleneck in more modern systems

mine is ancient

[thick matrix]

yeah i know many people who still use HDD lol

but thats kinda an unacceptable thing in 2024 imo

except maybe for backup and long term storage

but yeah, i guess it also needs to be tested with

[noble geyser]

Hi guys. Laura sent me over here. I'm gona try to establish as much as I can. Firstly this photo is my only info known on my pc before I bought it. Since then I have removed the 2 ram sticks and replaced them with 4 8 gig ddr4 sticks. I also introduced a wd black 2tb ssd. I have my os on a nearly empty hdd that came with the pc. And everything else all my games and files are on the ssd. Other than that I havnt done much to the pc. Following this post I will add 2 photos of items I think may benefit my experience in ue5. Please feel free to confirm or deny or criticize my choices. I'm noob af no hard feelings here just absorbing the environment.

I've picked these parts after viewing the ue5 minimum requirements. I have found the cheapest I could find but I am willing to stretch my budget

I'm not even shure if all those parts work with my mb

I have seen the i5

Well given my current pc shit pile. What would you guys reccomend given the info known on my pos

Ok I'll go check them. I'd say I'm willing to blow about 1000$

I'm fine with used.

The gpu is a 1650 lol I need atleast a 2080 super for ue5

Oh

[devout pendant]

Hi there following your advices days ago I built this config, is there anything you would change ? (there's no GPU as I will buy it on another website.)

that's also what I was thinking about the cooler, do you have one to recommend me please ?

They are kinda the same price, there's like 30€ of difference between the NH and the cooler master I choose 🤔

Yeah true. :/

Those are the only one available on the website

So I guess I'll go for a NH U12A

Nah... that's just the prices in France 😐

like the NH U12A is the same price on amazon etc, it's just how it is here 😄

Oh really ?

Right, I'll see then

Talking about the power supply, is 850W good ?

forgot to precise, the gpu will be a 4080 Super, so I don't know if it consume a lot

yeah sounds good for me, i'll buy all of this now, thanks for the help!

[naive cloak]

because of inflated GPU prices, NVIDIA RTX A5000 now cost almost the same as RTX 4090, will A5000 be better choice for UE5 development?

[frank glade]

Rtx a5000 is last gen, maybe rtx 5000 ada instead?

[naive cloak]

almost same price was for PNY RTX A5000 24G VCNRTXA5000-PB

[naive cloak]

is there preferred pc building/parts selecting web site? such as pcpartpicker.com

[median marsh]

i think a 3090 is better than a A5000 for UE

[near sonnet]

hey yall

i was thinking about jumping my ryzen 5 3600 to a ryzen 9 5900x

and going from 16 to 32gb ram

any drawbacks to this?

running meta humans for some portfolio work before GDC and its running me up the wall 😀

[torn smelt]

Case:
Antec NX291 ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Case 4 Fan 3 120M ARGB 1 120M Normal

Power Supply:
Antec Atom B650 650W 80 Plus Bonze Certified Power Supply

Motherboard:
MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi ProSeries Motherboard (AMD AM4, DDR4, PCIe 4.0, SATA 6Gb/s, M.2, USB 3.2 Gen 1, Wi-Fi, D-SUB/HDMI/DP, Micro-ATX)

Processor:
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler

Graphics card:
MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 15 Gbps GDRR6 192-Bit HDMI/DP PCIe 4 Torx Twin Fan Ampere OC Graphics Card

Storage:
Crucial P3 Plus 1TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD, up to 5000MB/s - CT1000P3PSSD8

Ram:
Silicon Power Value Gaming DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz (PC4 25600) 288-pin CL16 1.35V UDIMM Desktop Memory Module with Heatsink Grey SP032GXLZU320BDAJ7

Monitor:
ViewSonic Omni VX2428 24 Inch Gaming Monitor 180hz 0.5ms 1080p IPS with FreeSync Premium, Frameless, HDMI, and DisplayPort, Black

Keyboard:
Havit KB489L TKL Mechanical Keyboard With 87 Keys Led Rainbow Backlit Black Red Switch

Mouse:
Xigmatek G1 Lighting Wired RGB Gaming Mouse 6400Dpi

Headphones:
Havti H2022U Gaming Headphones USB 7.1

Mouse Pad:
Havit HV-MP861 Gaming Mousepad 7003003mm

This is my Pc. Is it good for making survival game (SmartPoly course) on Unreal Engine 5.4?

[median marsh]

the course yes, a full game 🤷

[naive cloak]

you will probably need better Mousepad...

[median marsh]

yea, its pretty thick with 7.003km

[near sonnet]

thoughts?

[fresh fog]

Yes, you already want 64GB RAM for a 3600 ideally.

It's pretty much necessary for the 5900x, especially in cpp land.

Other than that you may run into bios issues. They're easily fixable though (as long as you have a stable power source)

[near sonnet]

okay, so 64gb and the 5900x then?

[torn smelt]

😐

[torn smelt]

😐

[naive cloak]

what is the point of telling us what mouse pad you have? or monitor etc?

[median marsh]

it's very important

it's like asking for the gas mileage of a RED Volkswagen Golf 1.9TDI

[naive cloak]

~5200$ before tax 🥲 😰 I dont have that much money lol (and never will)

[silent wyvern]

Better buy 5950x.

Prices dropping

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5950X-32-Thread-Processor/dp/B0815Y8J9N/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

For this price it's a steal

[median marsh]

for most people a 5900x is sufficient

when it comes to 5900x vs 5950x

[silent wyvern]

Just suggesting if he isn't in most people group

[torn smelt]

It is a message with all the pieces and I sent it without editing 🙂

[forest jay]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/intel-core-i9-14900ks-is-already-breaking-records-overclocked-to-91ghz 🤯 for all the folks worried about cpus over heating can always opt for liquid helium at 50$ a liter 😬🥶

[forest jay]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3seug5tW1F/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D also

renderboxes

Is this the most powerful 8 way liquid cooled RTX4090 beyond beast on the planet (that can just about manage Crysis)… #moleculeliquid #4090 #3drenderingworkstation #8waygpu

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[naive cloak]

I dont think you can buy liquid helium as private customer 🥲

[violet spade]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-me-cordell-walker-walker-texas-ranger-look-at-me-pay-attention-to-me-gif-8281507903710707286

[silent wyvern]

He identifies as business customer.

[forest meteor]

do cpu and ram affect file transfering speed? will it be slower while I play a videogame?

[violet spade]

Having said that, games also need to use the drive to read and write, so that could very well slow it down

Unless ofc it’s on a diff drive

[plush turret]

technically getting biz status is like $300-600 usd in most states dunno about foreign costs but LLC's are pretty cheap

[forest jay]

My build has found a new home in a Corsair 4000d ❤️🏡

All it needed was about 30 mm width to fit the tubes

[median marsh]

glad you picked a case over a riser card

[forest jay]

Yea I was a little torn but I don’t think the same case woulda fit the vertical gpu mount

[median marsh]

riser cards suck

there's a reason that the best populated PCIex slot is close to the CPU on the mainboard... (and it's not only because it's easier to route on the PCB :D)

[forest jay]

Gonna download beta 5.4 and mess w project avalanche beta

I almost did some contract work for the avalanche team im curious to see what all the hype is about

Question does anyone use rdp or other remote clients to remote into there machine ? I am considering doing so and running some tests so I can have my main rig in the living room and can remote in via my old 2015 mbp with 2 other screens attached. I’m now just trying to figure out how to set it up for out of network remoting

This way I can plug it into Ethernet direct. Frame rate kinda sux for anything game related but most everything else is gravy.

[plush turret]

gotta love that weird cabble management thing in the 4000d

[median marsh]

there are faster alternatives than RDP

[forest jay]

Splashtop or parsec ?? Any others ? I have an issue with setting up parsec currently

The one thing I like about rdp is it recognizes all my screens but likely I just need to dial in a different one

[naive cloak]

riser card has noticeable performance decrease?

[median marsh]

if you are lucky they don't affect it, but the chances are high

also interference from other components can happen

[naive cloak]

I wanted to use Lian Li card bracket that they sell for o11 (if I could afford new PC)

Lian Li is the GOAT

🥰

[silent wyvern]

$100 in my country. $50 if you do it yourself

[plush turret]

nice

[silent wyvern]

how much is the required minimum to be paid to maintain LLC if there's zero income?

[plush turret]

idk your country but in the us its just file the taxes with the fact you made no income

[runic obsidian]

I’m Ganna make a really powerful build soon pretty excited fr

[timber cobalt]

I am using Parsec for that. My work PC is in a separate building and I connect to it via Parsec when I am working in our house. Working really well, although for multi monitor setup paid version is necessary as far as I know (I dont have it).
PC is connected to gigabit lan.

[near sonnet]

went with the 5900x

[silent wyvern]

that's not bad

[cinder tiger]

My dude. Amazing build, your tubes have a lot of climb though. Do whatever you can to make it so it is not taller than the entry point to the radiator.

[forest jay]

Am I more better like this ?

[cinder tiger]

yes

[forest jay]

Thank you @cinder tiger !!!

Already performing better lol

Was wondering why my gpu temp was high for no reason just starting up

Which fans ?

Ahh yes that one should be pointed toward the other exhaust fans

?

I think they’re blowing out no?

They’re blowing out

Just double checked

It’s true hmm

Guess I’ll have to keep this in mind

I wonder if I can get a dust filter to go over the triangle hole intake fan in the back to cut down on the dust

[near sonnet]

hey yall

i just won a msi 2080ti, i currently have a 2070 super...is this a solid upgrade for UE5 work?

[near sonnet]

the vram in the super is 8gb, while the vram in the 2080ti is 11gb..this is good right?

[fierce olive]

The Nvidia 30'S series could support DLSS 3 if Nvidia wanted?

[violet spade]

🤷‍♂️ even if it could, they want to sell new cards

[light crown]

You definitely want a dust filter on your intake fans

and a slightly positive internal air pressure on your case overall (so air blows out the cracks and not in)

[violet spade]

Ideally you want it to blow out the exhaust fans not the cracks hence the slightly part

[light crown]

^

a wet finger with them at max ratios in eufi should do the trick

[cosmic needle]

How would i go about adding a ssd

[timber cobalt]

I suppose only a sata ssd would be feasible in that machine

[cosmic needle]

would a ssd to pci not work?

[timber cobalt]

There are pci-e m2 adapters, but I dont know if there is pci adapters at all

[median marsh]

and even if there are, i think pci performance is worse than sata

[timber cobalt]

Although there are pci-e 1x there

[median marsh]

but covered by the gpu

and then you are limited to one lane

[timber cobalt]

It could be possible to find an adapter there with some cable, dunno

[median marsh]

which is, on this board, probably pciex 2.0? so we are down to sata speed again

get an SATA one, it's not like it would get useless if you ever buy a new PC

[timber cobalt]

I would go with sata ssd

[cosmic needle]

okay ty

[median marsh]

and compared to an HDD it's still a huge difference and worth to upgrade

[cosmic needle]

yeah im having issues with loading times and texture loading so ig its my hard drive but idk bc my hole pc is bad

[median marsh]

what cpu is that even?

[cosmic needle]

i5-2400 but was thinking of upgrading that soon to

[runic obsidian]

Oh

[cosmic needle]

cpu - i5-2400 gpu - gtx 970 ram - 16gb ddr3

[mighty patrol]

You use unreal on that?

[opaque pond]

i use unreal on something with a faster cpu much slower gpu

[mighty patrol]

Fair I was going to say how well does it run on the 2400

[opaque pond]

6 core cpu with igpu

[dusky wren]

dual a6000

[dusky wren]

they whisper compared to my 4090 workstation

4090 needs 50% more wattage and has triple the fans

[mighty cosmos]

Our RTX 6000 Ada cards use like 300-350W compared to my 4090 using 420 ish and at the same time faster than the 6000 card at the same professional workload, only thing really going for it is the memory

[dusky wren]

and sync ofc

[violet spade]

heads up Nvidia 551.86 appears to be utter trash, causing massive perf issues with games like Horizon, Pacific Drive, Helldivers 2, etc.

[mighty cosmos]

hm I'm on that one, upgraded a couple of days ago
Haven't noticed anything

[violet spade]

I installed, and had 11fps on Helldivers after a reboot

[mighty cosmos]

damn wtf

[violet spade]

Rolled back to 551.76 and it’s fine again

[mighty cosmos]

wonder if it's specific gpus

[violet spade]

Maybe, I’m on an old 2060 but I found a thread on their forums where many with newer cards too are having issues with it

[mighty cosmos]

weird, yeah I haven't noticed anything myself

[light crown]

Just what HD2 needs

[mighty patrol]

Yay more hd2 issues 😦

[light crown]

The long awaited "We can't hotfix our live service so wait for patch" patch is here lol

[mighty patrol]

Woo!

[frank glade]

Is that a rackmounted case?

[dusky wren]

it's a custom silverdraft case

[naive cloak]

channel Moore's Law is Dead suggests a new flagship GeForce RTX 5090 could be up to 70 percent faster than the current RTX 4090.

with a likely end of 2024 launch
GPU that will consume more than 1000W probably, they will have to start making dual PSU cases...

[mellow galleon]

stepping into age of double psu cases? one dedicated for cpu one for gpu

with massive radiator to disperse the heat

winters wont be as cold as before

[proud wyvern]

What do you think of this PC build? The numbers are the serial no.

[jade basin]

Hey guys, I have a gtx 1650 and I'm sure I cannot run ue5 lumen in it. But.... I can and would want to get a Virtual Machine to run UE5. I know some companies who offers VMs like Vagon, Azure, Google, Virtual Box etc. I want to know which one would be cost effective and would run ue5 without complains? I have a lot of questions regarding this so if someone can DM me and help me out, i'd really appreciate it..

[naive cloak]

dont waste your time helping people if they dont respect you enough to at least rotate the picture or retake it...

[light crown]

Oh man that's actually a good idea to get someone to download an infected image, to rotate on their side

[fervent jolt]

better if you use a PDF, boomers will be stuck figuring it out for hours while your hacking is in progress

[runic obsidian]

Thoughts on this build I have a budget of 2k so I have a bit extra I can spend lmk what I should improve (one thing I already have a really good power supply I’m using on my pc it’s a 850 watt Corsair psu that I’m going to transfer to This new one when it’s built) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrp2GP (note I might have screwed something up cuz I’m dumb)

[naive cloak]

but if 1 big ssd will fail all data will be lost

[plush turret]

will my 12700k with 64gb ram fit all this? no clue what SLAT is

[plush turret]

epic

[runic obsidian]

Ok I should have enough in the budget for this

I’m not gonna go with them because I have had a bad experience with them in the past I hold nothing against them tho

Rip

I would have gone with 7900xtx but honestly I might it’s 50/50 (just not sure atm cuz there are trade offs between the two)

Mhm

Pretty good price too

Not the 4090

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bnL9YN I changed ram and storage now I think it looks good I decided on having two instead of one big ssd

If there’s anything you think I should change lmk but I think this build would be really good

Alr

Not sure I don’t think it should I didn’t see anything abt it going slower I decided I was going to switch to 7900xtx and give amd another chance

If you see smth lmk but I pretty sure it can handle it

[runic obsidian]

Yea I’ll think abt that too

[violet spade]

You mean Nvidia ?

[naive cloak]

yes, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090

but there are rumors that RTX 5000 series will be released by the end of the year, if the year will not end early...

I am pretty sure 5000 series was created at the same time when they made the 4000 series but kept it secret to sell us "4000 refresh"

[violet spade]

Like…end of the world, or how would it end early ? 😀

[mighty cosmos]

Welp that is concerning

Are you lucky enough to have dual bios?

[runic obsidian]

That’s a lessons lots of us learned

Wow my dad has had a great experience with a laptop he bought from them for a schoool thingy

I have stuck with asrock for my motherboards because they are usually amazing and never let me down

I am currently using a build I got when I was 10 I paid like 1k for it 16 gigs of ram 1660 super intel i7 9400f or smth and the asrock motherboard shit haven’t let me down for four whole years it stills performs great

But it’s not good for unity

Oops

Wait

LOL

Dang

Yea I didn’t factory reset that pc for at least a year and I was constantly complaining about its bad performance but after the reset I have zero problems now

Holy

Anyways imma go play siege noice talk

Rainbow six siege?

I’m used to calling it siege around my friends cuz we all know what it means mb

[runic obsidian]

Just wondering what are ur current specs

[mighty cosmos]

Ok that's really concerning
Makes me wonder if there really is some more widespread issue with ddr5

[mighty cosmos]

Yeah, (modern) asrock is my go to for MBs, never had issues with their stuff

[violet spade]

Oof

Time to unsubscribe from that friend 😀

So what do you do if a BIOS update makes it unbootable, is the whole mobo bricked ?

[wind egret]

Nothing is bricked if you have an angry enough soldering iron.

[median marsh]

pretty much every modern board has dual bios

or flashback from usb support

which is basically using a smol mini firmware to flash the actual bios

[errant crypt]

their wifi sucks

x370 taicihi, wifi no bueno

also had major issues getting the ram up to speed, but i guess that's what you get for being an 'early adopter'

first gen ryzen

[light crown]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tRvmpB

anything over or undercooked here?

PSU headroom for doubling ram, adding drives, adding another 4090

[plush turret]

another 4090?

[light crown]

I care alot more about 'note' C rather than 'warning' A though

[light crown]

For model training

[plush turret]

i dont think a second gpu is going to do anything but vaporise your rig

[light crown]

wattage should be fine, mobos got a slot + 1, @x4 doesnt matter for the use case

[light crown]

like vaporize tensors to their ethereal form? thats the plan 😛

[plush turret]

i mean turn the computer to a lump of silicon

[light crown]

oh like heat production?

that is a lot of watts

I'll do custom venting if it comes to that

not down with sticking water cooling in a rig worth this much lol

[plush turret]

you would need a huge custom tower and MB to get enough space

[light crown]

tower is on the list

[plush turret]

im talking FULL TOWER

[light crown]

unless I eyed the specs wrong here

[plush turret]

physical space between mounts is big too since most cooling is done via radiation, and all radiation follows the inverse square law, the closer sources are, the hotter the air around them is

[light crown]

wait @iron zenith dont you have a 4090 in a mini case?

[plush turret]

she has a founders edition

which is $2,000 starting

[light crown]

+1 was reference the gap on the PCI

why would I want a founder over a manufacture OC?

[plush turret]

i cant find it for less from reputable buyer atm

[light crown]

I don't have time to min max the silicon lottery lol

that gigabyte might be too honky though, the fans almost look mounted to the shroud

you do have that fitting in a mini atx case though?

got dam

ill just get a PCI expansion chord

and then not even worry about the leverage and mount it wherever lol

lol, I think you might be hacking together boards at that point... and using a m variant gpu chip haha

alright so double check sizes?

everything else good to go

[plush turret]

laura is there actually any bonus from dual 4090's? i thought there would be some issues with running them like that

[light crown]

well you can't run them for games unless the developers added/enabled it in dx12 and vulkan, I think its easier to turn on with vulkan

but by the time nvidia dropped SLI, the cuda drivers were supporting multigpu to my recollection

without the new SLI band, whatever its called

they have to use a shared memory buffer though

or partially shared, nvidia magic

I am not getting two 4090's for gaming to be clear lmao

I would'nt even get one

[plush turret]

i thought only the quadros were designed to be connected

[light crown]

everything with tensor cores has em

even 3080s and 90s I believe, you just have to remove the shroud on most

[plush turret]

i have a 3060 and im pretty sure there isnt a port for it. unless its better hidden than it should be

[light crown]

dont think the 3060 does

but at that point its not really cost effective to double up GPUs

really only makes sense with the 3090 and 4090 currently, and for one use case lol

NVLink**

that was derpin me out

[plush turret]

still thinking that 1 4090 is going to be enough, pretty sure 48gb vram would be beyond overkill

[light crown]

for what 😛 ?

[plush turret]

for anything really

[maiden escarp]

until the 5000 series comes out XD

in summer that 4090 gonna heat up ur room

[light crown]

the difference between 24 and 48 for me is the difference between running 5 and 10 siblings per genetic cycle

its more than double the effective cost per compute since I need mo smaples

I unironically

might get 3

lmao

[plush turret]

my 3060 makes my office like 8C warmer than the rest of the house while playing RDR2... which is why im adding special ducting to cool it in the suite im building on my dads property

[light crown]

(one for a seperate rig)

[light crown]

bringing back childhood memories

[maiden escarp]

my 3080ti (evga the short hardly cooled one) dumps out wayyy to much heat, im looking to get a 4070ti with way less wattage

[light crown]

I live in canada praries, basement right next to the window, I have a vent I can hook up if I want lol

my idles are 30c and 32c bb

[maiden escarp]

or maybe a 4080

that's awesome

[light crown]

it is legit very nice

[maiden escarp]

once i get to a new place i might look into a specific vent too

[light crown]

had a swampy 'office' as a kid lol

[maiden escarp]

XD

[light crown]

old house, not AC

[maiden escarp]

XD

[light crown]

but yeah like, 1kw consistent draw, thats no joke of heat production lol

[maiden escarp]

very expensive heater in the winter

oh no the heater broke! dont' worry, i have my pc!

😂

[light crown]

Well unfortunately I can't afford the squat rack jensen unveiled, so this'll ahve to do

[plush turret]

boots up crysis

[light crown]

Don't get vram jealousy now Laura! 😛

[maiden escarp]

hook it up, crank that sucker along with a bench mark, and toasty room

[light crown]

not set in stone yet**

Also to be clear @plush turret I am only paying partial out of pocket

like I said, if it was for gaming, I'm fine with my 1080ti lol

[maiden escarp]

it cracks me up how the 1080ti still slaps

a buddy of mine still has one too

[light crown]

oh it fuckng cranks

[plush turret]

but yeah my house im building has most of its cooling and return focused around my office space, with a 16 cubic foot per minute max flow

[light crown]

There is no reason any modern title shouldnt clear 60fps at 1080p on it

it is the king of 1080p

[maiden escarp]

1080p on a 1080ti "It's in the name!"

[light crown]

circa 2001 EA flashbacks

got dam

[light crown]

PC's are good winter heaters, if it gets cold haha

I leave the window open when training all night in summer

[plush turret]

its north texas it can and has recently gotten to -4F

[light crown]

and leave it still... partially open during the winters lol

yeah that always sketches me the fuck out

its really dry here so -30 doesnt really scare me

and its not like the PC is right by the window

but anything getting close to 0 at high humidity

lost a game boy to condensation when I was a kind ....

.... and then it came back to life the next day 😛

I don't think a desktop PC would though

[plush turret]

its like perpetual 40% humidity here

[light crown]

thats making me get swampy just thinking about

[light crown]

Should be 4090 find out day tomorrow

[plush turret]

is a 3060 12gb good enough of an upgrade over a 1070ti to be worth the price of upgrade?

[wind egret]

It is still the cheapest 12GB card, and the 1070ti is old.

[silent wyvern]

Approximately how many times performance difference 1060 3GB vs 4070 Super?

[mellow galleon]

almost triple in passmark https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4973vs3566/GeForce-RTX-4070-SUPER-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060-3GB

[opaque pond]

Day and night

[silent wyvern]

very helpful

[opaque pond]

I am just saying the difference is chaotic and it's worth the upgrade

[silent wyvern]

I moved my project to base model Mac Mini M2 with 8 core CPU and 10 core GPU. And it packaged much faster than 1060 3GB

To which Nvidia GPU base 10 core M2 GPU is comparable?

[fierce olive]

Im currently stuck between choosing 4060 ti or 6800 GPU

and upgrading from current ryzen 7 3700x to either 5800x3d or 7000 series

[errant crypt]

Green team

Red keeps letting me down on the gpu

(I still buy them lol)

[mellow galleon]

red cpu and green gpu nowadays kinda meta, maybe eventually there will be something of blue team

[errant crypt]

One can hope i guess

Blue team slacked off on cpu's so im not holding my breath

More competition is usually a good thing tho . Nvidia CPU please?

[errant crypt]

Which ones? I went for 7950x , am i innfor a treat?

I always thought that was my motherboards, being crap

Less issues with ram this time around

[flint prism]

So last week my dad's computer went into sleep mode, when he woke it up, I think he said it was slow to come back, and then one of his HDDs had disappeared. Since then, everytime he turns it on in the morning, it sits at that boot start screen with the "american megatrends" for a while. Once or twice it wanted to put him into the settings menu. I'm guessing that the HDD is dead, or nearly, but would that cause the system to take a long time to boot?

[median marsh]

depends... i wouldn't start it at all if not necessary in that case

[flint prism]

first result of google says a dead drive can block the computer from booting 😦

[mighty cosmos]

it could be close to dead

A friend of mine had a similar issues with an almost dead hdd and it took anywhere from 30min to hours to boot

[median marsh]

could be a broken cable, mainboard or drive... but from the sound of it it's most likely the drive

[flint prism]

sounds like it was trying to boot for over half hour just now

[median marsh]

if there's any important data on it, you should only turn it on once more to make a copy, and by copy i mean a copy on "bitlevel" not on the filesystem

[flint prism]

he's been using his computer for a few days since it happened, and he turns it off every night. And the drive hasnt appeared at all.

[median marsh]

so it's not his main drive?

[flint prism]

by bitlevel, like with a drive copy program?

no, its one of his extra drives, but its apparently got lots of photos and videos on it.

[median marsh]

pretty likely dead by now

[flint prism]

I think I ahve a drive copy program but I dont remember which one. any suggestions?

I hope we can salvage most of it 😦

[median marsh]

acronis true image was good like 10 years ago, so if you find an old iso of it use that 😄

https://reboot.pro/index.php?showtopic=21545

if you get a bitcopy of the drive, either you are lucky and can use it, or you can run stuff like photorec on it

which works kinda good for photos etc.

as long as it's a harddrive and not an SSD

[mighty cosmos]

From what you described it sounds like it's stuck in the pre-boot sequence, it can get stuck there if you have a faulty connected device
Can be anything from your pc mouse, kb and HDDs

[median marsh]

yea but disappearing harddrive is kinda indicating that it's the HDD

[mighty cosmos]

yeah

[median marsh]

and they usually always die when they try to startup

[flint prism]

Yup, thats what I guessed too

its got me eyeing my own HDDs and worrying about backups

[plush turret]

spinning things like to keep spinning, stopping and starting is the hard part

[median marsh]

yea, i got hit by a hdd crash in my early days xD

[flint prism]

I get hit every 5-10yrs 😦

[plush turret]

my old laptop would always BSOD during the annual road trip

[median marsh]

and you still dont make backups?

[plush turret]

every year for 5 years

I do

but now i use a desktop

lot less things go wrong

and almost everything on the HDD's can be re-downloaded again

[flint prism]

I've got incomplete backups of some stuff, but not everything. Been low on funds for affording lots of backup drives, especially since I have many large drives

[plush turret]

yeah

i have an 8tb data center drive i back everything up to now

just barely fits a total backup of my whole computer

[median marsh]

i'm fine with 1TB including my UE project 😄

anything else i can redownload

[plush turret]

the local disk might be small but its one of those ultra stable high end SSD's that cost way more than the standard ones do. not a single issue in 5 computers and like 4 years

[flint prism]

its mostly my UE projects that I'm worried about, most of the rest is either downloadable again, backed up, or not super important

[median marsh]

back them up to cloud?

i think Laura always likes to mention how you get 50GB for free on Azure

which should cover the important bits on an UE project

[flint prism]

never really trusted clouds....

[median marsh]

you think MS is gonna release your game for you?

[flint prism]

If I shuffle some data around, I should be able to back up most of the important stuff on to a drive thats not really doing much right now.

but crap... my dad wants to do a video chat so I can try and walk him thru disconnecting the dead drive so he can use his computer

[flint prism]

lol, two HDDs in his system, one made in 2021, the other 2011 😬

[plush turret]

yes if they know how awesome it is

https://tenor.com/view/jake-peralta-we-can-do-this-brooklyn99-gif-23613858

[median marsh]

bet the 2011 one goes strong

[plush turret]

i have an old 32gb IDE drive, nothing will kill it

[fallen oasis]

Time

[plush turret]

its been dunked accidentally into a pool, survived a small battery fire, and now open housing around a long hair cat....

[flint prism]

ah, a third drive was also an HDD, and was only a 1tb, also 2011

[plush turret]

its write speed is in KBps

[flint prism]

he said it was small so i thought it'd be an sdd

[plush turret]

I also have this one DVD-RW that is absolutely scratch resistant (within reason)

for whatever reason it has survived a TODDLER

find me a more hazardous to tech environment than a highly autistic toddler

(within reason)

[flint prism]

k so it was the third 2011 drive that was preventing it from booting

so now he can use his computer, now its just a matter of trying to recover the dead drive

all we can do till tomorrow. Thanks for the help tho

[plush turret]

https://tenor.com/view/special-agent-gif-27395014

[light crown]

wait theres a titan rtx

wait du heck

[light crown]

https://www.reddit.com/r/deeplearning/comments/zau0uc/gpu_comparisons_rtx_6000_ada_vs_a100_80gb_vs_2x/

so two 4090s is the best option? What do you think Laura?

[mighty cosmos]

From my experience only benefit to rtx 6000 ada is the memory, in every other way it's slower than a single 4090
2 4090s will be on par or outperform 1 A100 80GB, but again less total memory

You can get that 80GB of VRAM for cheaper with 4090s but complicates training or whatever you are doing, you either need model sharding or some form of parallelism, which comes with its own issues

[violet spade]

Isn’t Crossfire/SLI a thing of the past now?

[mighty cosmos]

It is, you don't need it for ML tho
You can run parts of the model on different devices without the gpus actually being directly connected (if they are in the same system) with SLI/nvlink (tho nvlink speeds up communication between gpus)

[violet spade]

Ah nice

[proud wyvern]

Which build is better for gamedev?

[fresh fog]

They're... The same specs?
You've changed a cooler PSU, case, and SSD brand

But your RAM is low in both of those. Double it to 64GB

[mellow galleon]

are gigabyte video cards and psu's still explode?

[mighty patrol]

I have ran a gigabyte windforce gpu for 4+ years no issues. idk about psus though

[fallen oasis]

I have a gigabyte mobo and gfx card.

Highly recommend not getting the mobo. No issues with the card.

[mighty patrol]

I heard newer gigabyte cards pcb is a bit iffy but could be user errors.

[nocturne raptor]

Many have asked this before but answers are always extremely biasd towards photorealistic high performance AAA games. So I'm asking. Anyone has real-world experience developing on Apple Silicon M3 Pro with unreal 5.3^ ?

I just can't stand constantly loud machines with bad battery performance. So I do not want to get a windows laptop with RTX at the moment.

I do have desktop workstations in addition (one with a 4090 and one with a 3080) but consider buying a macbook pro m3 pro as my portable dev device.

I have a project. Uses world partition on a 5x5km map. Stylized. runs with about 50 - 60 fps in the editor on my macbook air m1... Stylized 3D work without lumen and nanine is my main focus. Macbook Air throttels after a while because of heat + shader compiling is quite slow.

Any -realistic!- experiences?

[forest jay]

One solution worth exploring is get a desktop pc keep it in a separate room and remote into it with your air if you have an Intel Mac you can use bootcamp and your battery on the Mac (if older) will likely perform better

[nocturne raptor]

I also want to get a new mac for native development. I already remote into my pc via moonlight and sunshine

So it is not a question of if I keep my macbook air - I just want to see my perspective on using a new m3 pro for unreal development and what peoples experiences are in a real world scenario

[forest jay]

Wait til m5 if you can m3’s are still about half way there

You’ll run into limitations in the Mac directly w unreal

[nocturne raptor]

I mean - it runs pretty well already on my m1 macbook air without to much trouble like I said. It throttls. And I just want some realworld experience from people using a mac on real projects

It is also not a question of waiting - I do develop professionally on the devices and need them in my day job too (apple vision pro) - it is a question of what people with m3 macs have as an experience in combination with unreal.

[forest jay]

I hear ya I tried in here also you won’t find experiences w Mac and unreal They’re gonna be a force in a few years but essentially you’ll have another air in a couple years

[nocturne raptor]

Just one question: did you ship a game that was developed on a mac?

[forest jay]

Nope ! And I highly doubt you’ll find anyone in here that did and if you do I’d love to hear from em also

[nocturne raptor]

No offence: but my question was formed in a way that I try to get feedback from people who have real-world experience. I do get answers like "mac not good for unreal! get pc with 4090" all over the internet already 🙂 But there are people who ship games on ipads made with unreal engine and also people who develop for apple vision pro with 5.4 already

[forest jay]

Macs are good but unreal and Mac is still a wip

Apple and epic have had some bad blood im hoping they iron it out

🙏

[nocturne raptor]

I really hoped my question would skip this kind of conversation 😅

[forest jay]

Yea me too 😂

[nocturne raptor]

Just to make it clear again:
I do have the macbook air m1 - which runs unreal very well for what it is.
I try to find real-world experiences here to compare against my current experience. for example: how much performance will I gain upgrading from m1 to m3 in unreal engine. It is not a question of waiting. it is not a question of epic vs apple. It is a question of did anyone use unreal on m3 macs and how did it work out so far? so effectively I didn't even ask for an opinion of anybody who does not have experience... I really do not mean it as an offence! 😇

[forest jay]

Your ask is a bit biased ! And no offense with that. I’m speaking from a Logical standpoint as a Mac user and speaking on the point that as long as os is updated fully it’s gonna be the same m1 air to m3 max spec’d out. Smell me? 😤

…Compatibility wise that is

[nocturne raptor]

My question is biased towards people who developed with Apple Silicon M3 and unreal engine, yes!

[forest jay]

Like you can build out w the new Mac for better performance than the air and then open it on pc where stuff isn’t compatible

Im sure you prolly do this already .. sorry for giving frustrating answers you already came up w

Is what it is. Mac and unreal is limited still

[nocturne raptor]

Thanks for your opinions.
Looking forward for answers from people (if there is someone) who have real-world-project-experience with new Silicon M3 Pro Chips.
I don't care about nanite or lumen or photorealism.

[forest jay]

I fully support you on your journey of finding an m3 user who’s shipped. My partner works for Apple so I do have an insider pov on somethings I’m unfortunately unable to elaborate on further. 😉

Someone anyone please chime in and defunct my opinion about Mac users w unreal are equivalent to a person going to the gym in sandals 🙏🙏🙏

[fresh fog]

As a cheaper alternative, consider buying a cheap laptop to use as a parsec slave, and remote into the big dev machine

[nocturne raptor]

Thanks @fresh fog I already do that with a very good moonlight + sunshine + vpn setup

my initial question was also not one of cheaper alternatives

I'm looking for experience with projects natively developed on mac (especially M3 macs).
In addition to a portable dev device, I want to be able to develop natively, I want to make builds for mac, I will have to deploy to the apple vision pro in the future and therefore get into development for it.

I really just would love to hear (if there are users) real-world experiences of mac users.

I nerver stated that the experience is better than or greater than or whatever.

[forest jay]

Hey I’ll go to the gym in sandals sometimes and do some biceps and chest time to time. No shame. Just sayin ! 🩴🏋️‍♀️

[nocturne raptor]

😅
I know it is hard for many people to understand that not everyone is interested in the high performance features of unreal but is focusing on minimalist-stylized projects. I don't care about nanite, groom, lumen, metahumans, megascans.

Just for an example: I can run the crop out project on my m1 macbook air just fine. it is a pleasent experience beside the low frame rate of 40 fps (playing in editor) and at 60fps working in the editor. I work on another project with world partition on a 5x5km map - many PCG scattered objects, hlods, whatever... it runs at 60 fps

What my goal is with my question is to get a perspective on how the experience is or how much of a gain I can expect for the kind of work I do with the M3 macs. And that answer can not come from people who do not work on macs (natively) with unreal 🙏

[forest jay]

Mac design aesthetics are top top

And I’m a motion designer so I do my 2d stuff it’s the gpu incompatibility that kills the shader compiling I am afraid

[forest jay]

I have a question unrelated to my above tangent.

I want to update to windows 11 and I need to enable TPM 2.0 to do so in BIOS are there any dangers or things to watch out for w that ? And same w windows 11 update anything to lookout for in general? I did it on my laptop takes a minute to get used to ui but seems like some performance improvements overall

One thing is for some reason I didn’t need to enable tpm 2.0 on my laptop it just did it on its own somehow 🤷‍♀️

[nocturne raptor]

*just to correct my self @forest jay -> cropout is running always at 60fps with FXAA on a 2020 macbook air m1

[fierce olive]

no dangers whatsoever, I've updated to win 11 since day 1 I never had any issues

[light crown]

Does anyone have a contact at any of the RTX 6000 partners by chance?

why you gotta troll me on low slep

actually though why can't I find a 6000a listing anywhere

jeezuz

[nocturne raptor]

interesting points

[forest jay]

Ok! What is the issue with keeping it enabled ? Just out of curiosity

[forest jay]

What you’re saying is if I enable it then I can’t backup my files ?

Ahhh I get it all the encrypted data won’t be backed up or something geez it’s a bit complicated to understand. Thank you for guiding me to the answer ! I’m just gonna turn it on to install and then off 🙏

[forest jay]

New q; if I set my cache for unreal to an external ssd rather than my native drive will I experience negative performance difference ?

[violet spade]

External SSDs are always slower than regular SSD, I don’t get people’s fascination with them

[light crown]

just use usb3

https://imgs.search.brave.com/erFEQCEdBJuYtddycCh9Sww50RH4mFcJS3UpoG66apc/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cu/ZmxleGVuc2UuY29t/L3NjcmVlbnNob3Rz/L3VzYjNfdnNfc2F0/YV9maWxlX2NvcHlf/cGVyZm9ybWFuY2Vf/bWVkaXVtX2ZpbGVz/LmpwZw

this looks about right to me

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-512GB-Ultra-Flash-Drive/dp/B0BY2XZW6L/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1

I think I might grab one or two lol

[median marsh]

USB = higher cpu usage

and eSATA is a thing

[mellow galleon]

portable. 3.1/3.2 usb are quite good and have decent speeds
collegue used it to hold workspace when travelling (as laptop storage was too small plus cant encrypt)

[violet spade]

Still slower than native yeah?

[mellow galleon]

well, yea

but you dont need to disassemble laptop / pc when want to change location

[violet spade]

ig, but there’s such things as repos

But I suppose if you’re a travelling salesman coder, you might need it

[mellow galleon]

i have a PC case with external SATA dock just to use external drives (plus usb 3) - was super useful.

[violet spade]

That’s neat

[forest jay]

I found this news article about the mb I just installed saying there’s issues w it. How would I know if mine is effected ? Damn algorithms put this news article in my Google feed noiding me out a bit 😫

https://wccftech.com/msi-fixes-pch-cracking-issue-on-a-small-batch-of-z790-motherboards-offers-replacements-to-affected-users/amp/

I think what I can take away from the article is if the mb is doa then it’s affected like it wouldn’t work at all right?

[mellow galleon]

if your works then you fine, plus the video in that article explains symptoms

[forest jay]

Thanks for confirming it’s all good

Im having downtime at working and running internet speed tests 🐰 🐢

It’s super weird I’m finding after running both single and multi test on my brand new build w new nic plugged into ethernet getting close to a gig per second down while my uploads are like 60-100 and ping is 15-19

Then I checked my 5g wifi speed and its 500 d 50 up

But what’s puzzling me is on my 2015 mbp on 5g wifi I ran a test for the heck of it and getting 9-13 ping and 500 d and 300-500 up which is way more balanced. I’m about to test ethernet on that one but I’m kinda puzzled as to why a 2015 mbp running bootcamp on wifi nic is crushing my new build nic on ethernet

^and 5g wifi

And after testing on mbp ethernet I’m getting 800 d and 350 up what the heck!! And 12 ping lol. Why my recent release z790 msi tomahawk being a rat w my bytes? Driver update needed maybe ?? 🤔

[mighty patrol]

Can use parsec to access it, if you have a good system should be fine.

[plush turret]

what is the realistic max speed of a wifi 6 connection?

have a 6E router and a wifi 6 chip in my desktop

[violet spade]

There’s no way to give you an exact number, it depends on many factors. Distance to the adapter, number of floors, walls, what’s in the walls, how good the adapter is, etc.

[timber cobalt]

The desktop should have connected to the router by cable. It would be the safest bet.

[devout pendant]

The PC is very decent, the laptop is below average

And planning to connect via wi-fi

[forest jay]

I actually just finally set up port forwarding for outside of my network w rdp now trying to figure out parsec port forward, I think that’s gonna be the one challenge out of network is to set it up while not physically in the location and if it goes to sleep or freezes you might need a mate to manual reboot. Unless there’s a function that goes similar to wake on lan that’ll reboot when stuck I am unaware of 🤔

Another minor but important detail is if your ip happens to change may want static ip setup in addition

That and make sure to have a decent connect because depending where else in the world it’s located ping gets higher and higher further away it is

For instance i am in Europe and i connect to U.S. servers all the time w vpn and average ping is like 120 at best

[median marsh]

WOL should also wake it from sleep

also i would use some kind of VPN to login at home, unless you really want to trust MS and their poop

ususally a bad idea to open any service on public ports

[flat tide]

Hi! I'm looking into setting up a CI server (basically build project, run unit tests and package project), but I don't know what hardware to use. I thought about mini PCs/NUCs, because they are cheap, silent and have low power consumption, but I don't know if a NUC is going to be enough given the price range I'm moving in (400-500$). So, I also considered an old server rack, but I don't know how future-proof that is. Does anyone have something like this working? Any advices?

[median marsh]

from all the things that haven't changed in the past 20 years... 19" server racks is one of them

they are meant to stay for probably another 20 years

[flat tide]

That's true. I was also wary about compatibility with W11 and UE5, but I don't think that should be an issue either

[flat tide]

Yeah, I'm not shooting for super fast builds given my budget

Would you say 32 GB is enough? I was planning 16, but from what you say I have the feeling that 32 should be the minimum

Thank you for the info, I was unaware of that rule of thumb. Probably 32 then, because I doubt I can go beyond 6 or 8 cores with my budget

[flat tide]

Oh, that's true, I was thinking 1.5 gigs per core, not per thread. I'd love to go beyond 32, but I don't think I'll be able to do that without spending more money than I'm willing to

I'll look into 12-14th gen Intel processors, thanks a lot for the advice

[sinful imp]

Hello folks! I'm starting to plan my next pc and would really appreciate it some advice on it, I would like to put together a build that can last a good 4/5 years.

I'm currently working on my free times on a UE4 retro FPS (think mid 2000s visuals) which already pushes my laptops 16gb of ram to its limits when making a build (this is one of the reason I'm planning a new build), but I'm planning on working on UE5 for my following projects.

My current question at hand is about the CPU, as I couldn't find much benchmarks for UE except the puget systems ones (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/unreal-engine-intel-core-14th-gen-vs-amd-ryzen-7000/), I'm thorn between the i9 14900K and the i7 14700K. Both seem like good options really, specifically I don't build UE often (but that could change in the future), only the project. Is there much difference between the i9 and the i7 in this case?

Thanks!

[mellow galleon]

ryzen 7900/7950 (pref) or any of the two intels you have (not an intel fan anymore), some decent (4070 or 4080) gpu, 64gb (2x32 extendable 4x32) ddr5 ram and 2tb ssd will be enough for next 5+ years

IMO it a bit weird chart for engine compile (since my 5900x was building engine in about 25 minutes) to see topmost intel cpu building engine in 28 minutes while amd took 31 minutes or so. but that is like 3 minutes difference, don't think you will be building engine every time

[sinful imp]

interesting! and yes youre completely right that im not gonna be building engine often, actually this makes me wonder if its worth to go for the i9, as its more expensive and I believe it alls consumes more wattage (and gets hotter?)

[runic obsidian]

I’m having trouble deciding between the 7800x3d and i7-13700k I will be using blender, unreal, and playing video games I think both cpus will do well I just don’t know if the productivity boost for the i7 will make that big of a difference I do have a budget of 2k so if their is something better I will consider it too

[mellow galleon]

i'm now kinda fan for amd for now for heavy load / work (still able to cool things without going into liquid cooling) intel cpus are as good as electric stove rn

[sinful imp]

yep that seems to be the case, I was thinking on going for a liquid cooling AIO solution for that same reason...

[runic obsidian]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mh3Ht7 or this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsprBL (only difference is motherboard and cpu)

[light crown]

re: 3d printing, whats my best option for printing negatives for casting?

[timber cobalt]

depends on the shape. I had success with PLA negative for simple shapes. For more intricate shapes majd a more flexible material is maybe better.

[light crown]

for doing polymers and metal casting, do I go PLA positive -> Silicon negative -> final positive?

[timber cobalt]

that can be a totally decent workflow, yeah

[light crown]

What've you tinkered with?

[timber cobalt]

I just printed some negatives and made some parts from silicone

I did not have vacuum chamber that time, so it was not great

[violet spade]

Nice shower head parts

[stuck hollow]

Hey guys!
After many years I want to start over again with UE development. Currently I am building a PC.
What are your experiences with AMD GPUs?
I thought about getting a RX7900XTX but I read in many forums that a Nvidia card is better for Unreal development.
I hope someone can help me 🙂
Thank you in advance 🙂

[limpid wave]

hey guys I do have a question right now I have a 1tb ssd which won't be enough to store all of the projects etc I'm gonna do. I'm using 2 external HDD for other files but for example on the city example pack, the wait times are REALLY REALLY long (like 25 min to starting the project to loading all the assets). I have a 13600K, 64 gig of ddr5 5600 ram and a 4070 super. The long load times are only due to the project sotred on the external HDD right? because in my case unreal is sotred on my NVME. So should I invest in another nvme and if yes should it be a 4.0 or 3.0 nvme or would an internal HDD be enough to avoid atrocious long load times like these?

[fresh fog]

AMD cards are great. Nvidia cards can actually have a ton of issues with unreal at times.
The cheap VRAM is also great, as unreal likes VRAM.

I'd definitely consider it if you don't need to pay the Nvidia tax for anything else you use.

[fresh fog]

You don't want unreal projects on a HDD, it will be slow. Only do that if they are seldom used.
An NVME also isn't necessary. A SATA SSD, either 2.5" or M.2, is more than quick enough, and you'll normally get much better $/GB. Well, at least for the 2.5" ones.
(Don't worry if you've run out of mounting slots either, they don't actually need to be mounted. My 2.5" SSD's are completely loose)

Yeah, can't say I've noticed many either tbh

[limpid wave]

ok thanks a lot

[runic obsidian]

I won’t be starting unreal on the current build I have because it will not be usable at all but I’m excited to make this new build I’m waiting for a buyer for my pc

[plush turret]

question, when i play a program in full screen all of the sudden it now shifts every other screens windowed program over a bit

playing fallout 4, and when im playing, VLC refuses to stay centered on screen 3

an hour ago it didnt do this

the only thing different is i bought a key for allstartback

[plush turret]

anything better?

than vlc

but also free and simple

what might cause one screen to freeze, the other to flicker from signal to no signal, while the 3rd is normal.
frozen one is connected to MB not GPU
flicker is a weird duck screen but plugged in to GPU HDMI
main screen that wasnt affected is DP to HDMI

happened when i tabbed out of Fo4 while in borderless full screen

weird part is this ONLY happened when i was playing with borderless fullscreen

I have also noticed random squares that are crosshatched black on the DP monitor. they dont show up on the others even when connected to the same GPU, would that be cable, screen or what?

idk if i have adaptive, im running pretty much factory settings windows 11 and my 3060

no voltage changes or anything

where is this?

checking

which of these is it in? cant find that option:

i guess?

tbh all my screens are pretty much "hey what was someone getting rid of"

the most expensive screen i have is the 42 inch tv

and its 9 years old

no the pc is nice

the only potential fault was the PSU i initially installed blew a capacitor early on

replaced with differnt PSU and things fine

the screens are all weird and pretty random conglomerations

[mellow galleon]

does your cpu have a built-in gpu? maybe hybrid mode is enabled which causing issues

[plush turret]

its a 12700k

i know my 42 inch tv is plugged into the MB since i havent gotten around to buying another DP-HDMI converter and its max res is 1080 at 60hz anyways

actually it may not even be 1080p... that screen is ancient

its a 5 inch thick LED screen from 2015

[mellow galleon]

well, it does have onboard gpu.
so there could be an issue when gpu screens work fine and embedded gpu connected via mb port lacking intel gpu drivers

could also explain why it is in minimal resolution

[plush turret]

oh the tv itself is minimal res.
and its not having any issues

its the DP to HDMI port dedicated monitor that is

[plush turret]

does DP/HDMI support touch screen or is that going to need another plug in of some sort?

[plush turret]

ok usb is fine, didnt know if i needed something special. ive always liked using touch screens because they arent as affected by my muscular issues. mice tend to fidget, expensive high quality or cheap walmart branded ones

[steep cairn]

Hello, my beloved mechanical keyboard of some 12 or more years has some dead keys 😦 i figure i can simply replace it, but what with as all the recent corsair stuff doesn't seem as good as it used to be, any suggestions? (i like the keyboards without a numpad)

[green oracle]

Greetings!
Quick question
I'm going for an GPU upgrade
For the use of unreal engine should I go for Nvidia or AMD
I may go for 3070 or Rx 6700xt

[mellow galleon]

whats your current?

[green oracle]

1060 6gig

?

[mellow galleon]

well, both will be a decent upgrade. usually more vram the better for UE. rest is up to preferrences/experiences.
you can check discussions above (they're quite often)

[steep cairn]

i have a 6900xt in an all amd rig, not sure if i would go amd for my next rig

[green oracle]

i have never used AMD gpu

[mellow galleon]

in my experience amd drivers used to be very problematic, it got better in recent years
never had issues (other than sometimes rolling back driver to skip buggy version) with nvidia

[stuck hollow]

Thanks!
I think I will go with the XTX Card 🙂 as I want to start with game development and Ray Tracing is not important for me, I think its the better go.
Thanks so much!

[fresh fog]

You can still ray trace on the xtx btw :P

[stuck hollow]

Yes I know 😅 but I would take cheaper VRAM instead of more ray tracing performance 😅

And everything in 1440p 😅

[fresh fog]

I've been running team red for 5 years and had to piss about with drivers exactly 0 times.
I have another machine with an nvidia card for 9 months and had to upgrade drivers 4 months in due to artifacting.

[mighty cosmos]

My previous gpu was amd and Nvidia right now and I had about 0 issues with both

[plush turret]

im pretty sure that unless your really trying to tweak the settings, either company works just fine

just need to see where intel GPU's grow

idk i havent really encountered anything

[mellow galleon]

has anyone tried to run a builtin raid mirror with m2 drives on an asus motherboards? setting up a workstation, atm i have Asus ROG STRIX B650-A with 7900X, sata 256gb ssd with OS
goal is to have a workspace storage with relatively high "resilience?" for quite heavy dev work load
with what i can go for:
option 1: 2x 1tb samsung 970 evo (tlc) drives that i want to use as workspace (raid1 for safety / read speed) for mb m2 slots
option 2: previous but try find a pcie m2 raid controller (can only get GLOTRENDS PA20)
option 3: dont bother with raid get a 2tb samsung 980 pro (mlc) for workspace and a 2tb sata hard drive for cold backups in manual mode

[barren goblet]

Raid0 isn’t going to give resilience, not sure if you aware of that. It’s purely for speed and combining drives

[mellow galleon]

i know, mirror

as long as it will prevent total death of drive and keep second one safe.

[barren goblet]

So raid 1 probably

would be mirroring

[mellow galleon]

oh, whoops. raid1

[barren goblet]

Yeah raid0 you would lose the stack if a drive dies haha

Most do raid 1 or raid 5 but raid 5 you need at least 3 drives

Not sure your use case but what I’ve done personally is use source control/backup to cloud/on prem servers

My methodology is if the drive fails, swap the drive and download from server again

[mellow galleon]

heavy unreal development, programming / large projects.

[barren goblet]

So if it were me I’d lean towards option 3

[mellow galleon]

my old workspace used to have sata sdd / sata hdd cold storage with monthly scheduled backup runs at night

[barren goblet]

And if you really wanna cover your basis backup your backup drive to a cloud solution 😂

There ya go yeah

[mellow galleon]

well, source control is obv, but i can't keep entirety of 2tb workspace in cloud. network is super limited atm / large storage is problematic to buy too

[barren goblet]

Certainly yeah. I ended up (still upgrading) building a server and upgrading my network to handle that kind of traffic. Little cheaper than paying for 30TB in the cloud 😂

my raid setup is actually still pending additional drives

[mellow galleon]

with pcie raid controller or a nas? or software

[barren goblet]

It’s a pretty basic solution right now. I’m using parts from a previous desktop build and then just using intel raid controller in the bios

I was experimenting with software raid controllers on two of the bigger drives until I get enough for raid 5. Software is fine but it is slower than bios or a raid controller

[forest jay]

I’m running a heavier render in c4d that’s utilizing cpu. W overclocking on I’m getting a minute less render time but my temps are touching 85-100 and 100 sustained on a couple cores is this something I should avoid or cool to roll for like 6 hrs ?

[mellow galleon]

you need a better cooling, temps over 70-80C are pretty bad for that long time. most likely go liquid cooling

[forest jay]

Gotcha ! yea if I wanna use overclocking I guess that’s the case otherwise without it’s sustainable. Thanks

[mellow galleon]

even 7900x has 95C limit

[balmy yoke]

Hello guys,

I need a whole PC system for 100% Unreal Engine usage (mainly VR Applications).

The computer will be used for industrial VR sessions.

Intel and NVidia are set as brand from company IT.

What components or prebuild would you recommend? I thought about, but I have no clue about which brand for gpu, about cooling system, powerdevice etc..

CPU: i9-14000k GPU: RTX 4090 Ram: min. 128GB

Budget? 5-6k €?

If there are prebuild it should be a german seller.

[forest jay]

I need to get on this underclocking tip like set to overclock but give a limit of 85 somehow like ur doing

[forest jay]

That’s hella easy I’m gonna do that

[fervent jolt]

setting mine to 185 instead so i can fry my eggs in the morning i think

[barren goblet]

With some exceptions, brand really doesn’t matter. It comes down usually to aesthetic and features you want. With a GPU, some brands preclock the cards higher. So if clock speed is what your after you might consider one brand over another but you can also manually clock the cards higher yourself 😂

I think I would cry if my CPU ran that hot 😂🤣

[mighty patrol]

What about 95°C?

[barren goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-david-gif-23598750

[frank glade]

I would cry if my CPU ran that cool

[barren goblet]

I’m not even sure I wanna ask what you’re running at 😂

[frank glade]

nah it only gets to like 85 max

[barren goblet]

Highest I think I hit was 92 at that was doing a cine bench stress test

most of my demanding applications won’t see temps higher than 50

[near sonnet]

went to a 2070 super to a 4070

[forest jay]

Is this the way to do it ? @iron zenith

Ok ! Yea that makes sense I also noticed this was set weird I don’t have a water cooler I have the noctua dh15 🤔

[plush turret]

yall, a friend seems to be having a a GPU or MB issue.

their problem states that the screens go no signal when doing graphically heavy things, and a crash reboot error logged to a GPU driver.

is there a way to tell if its the GPU or MB?

also how do i get into the base settings to throttle my stuff, the amount of heat produced playing freaking fallout 4 is insane

[runic obsidian]

Do they have a extra gpu lying around

They could test with

[plush turret]

nope

who has that?

is there a program or something we can use to test

[plush turret]

Ok, i need help setting the best power settings for my computer. Factory default just runs too hot

most of the stuff in my computer is MSI or corsair

with 12700k cpu

and Noctua NH-U12S Redux for cpu fan

[plush turret]

i think my gpu is much better now. on to the CPU

[ionic wing]

Do your homework. Otherwise youll buy a $1000 motherboard that does nothing for you. I just finished my new rig this week. Havent upgraded for about 10 years ( was a 6700k with a 1060 6 gigs) but could still run Unreal. New rig has every part handpicked and ... it worked. A rocket ship. I'm so happy. Montech Sky 2 case , 14900k with Vengance pro 64 gig ( 2 sticks ) running at 6400 . WD850x 1tb and 990pro 2tb. Gigabyte Elite AX with a matching cooler. the sweetest thing Ive owned and my first computer was in 1982. Top end MBs have maybe direct access to run cpu to a high end drawing tablet , and of course DDR5 m.2 ... dont waste your cash because to match up that system up you will need more than 6k. ( cdn) . The only reason I bought a 14900k instead of the 14700k which would have been just fine was because it was so long since I waited between builds ... it smashes!

[ionic wing]

Stay away from AMD. You will be so unhappy. Hit Youtube...

[fresh fog]

Completely baseless comment

[fresh fog]

I mean there can be issues, but a blanket statement like "stay away, you will be unhappy" is baseless imo. It's not like they have the reputation of being always the worst option, unless we travel back to the dark days of the FX range

There are definitely reasons to consider going intel, because it's an extremely solid lineup, and ryzens have been getting seemingly complacent (see: them cheaping out on the coolers and such).

However the initial question was about GPU's so if you're running an Arc, I'll pray for you :P. For me, it's one of those, that if you don't need the Nvidia tax, an AMD GPU is much better value for money and you don't need to play driver roulette :P

Can I ask what problems you had CPU side? I've been considering a new system so it's useful to know

I was considering intel anyway because often ATM it's cheaper and still let's me use ddr4 ram for the time being

Heard about the cooling, scheduling and popping. USB is a new one

I'm really not sure if it's greed or laziness because they've been the first choice for quite a while

Oh wow. That's odd.

[median marsh]

must be one of those windows exclusive features

ok, but they usually work in my experience

maybe it's a vulkan thing which is less tricky 🤷

[pearl quartz]

and I bought and AIO! It rocks up, the pipes are kinked but Id already started stripping my PC so I had to put it back together again 😬

[violet spade]

In summary: 1) Norton, McAfee, AVG and really any of these antivirus suites, 2) VPNs, 3) PC “Performance boosters” 4) Browser extensions 5) Bloatware on prebuilt systems 6) Pirated software where you don’t completely trust the source

https://youtu.be/JxLjz8gpF3o?si=ijADK2akugjOSLMa

[fallen oasis]

I haven't had any of those things installed in decades.

Other than a few browser extensions.

(not shopping related)

[mellow galleon]

you'd better write more detailed for vpns and extensions
free and untrusted vpn services are not secure in any way and many are just trash. But in general you would use VPNs for corporate needs / remote work / region locks and others.
bloatware and tracking extensions are bad indeed but that is just how internet works, everyone likes easy prey

[fallen oasis]

I hope you aren't using free and untrusted vpns for corporate needs 😂

[pearl quartz]

I dont trust any network

[mellow galleon]

good companies do provide corpo vpn servers to connect to (otherwise internal domains will be inaccessible)

[fallen oasis]

I know. I'm on one right now! I was just poking some fun 😛

[mellow galleon]

🙂

[violet spade]

Watch that part of the video, he explains why

[violet spade]

I don’t trust any of them anymore since I had an Adblock Plus or something extension that compromised my passwords

[fallen oasis]

I might be using that shrug

[violet spade]

Google marked it for removal due to it being compromised, that’s how I found out the culprit

[fallen oasis]

Oh.

I'm using uBlock.

Haven't used Adblock Plus in a decade!

[violet spade]

I took Laura’s advice and use Vivaldi if I wanna skip ads

[fallen oasis]

Is that a browser?

[violet spade]

Yeah a Chromium

I’m sure we’ll eventually find out it was tracking us all along but 🤷‍♂️ 😀

[mighty cosmos]

I use Adguard, it's been my favorite for a while

[frank glade]

Ublock was the only one to block youtube ads for me

[mighty cosmos]

Adguard is still working for me on YT

[naive cloak]

I also use SponsorBlock, it can skip all kinds of useless stuff in YT video

[plush turret]

your here blocking videos? im just watching raw

[pearl quartz]

very Brave

[fierce olive]

Fellow devs, I'm upgrading to 1440p cant decide between 4060ti or RX 7700xt? any advice?

[frank glade]

Is it dev usage or gaming? If for UE, the one with the biggest vram

[fierce olive]

main use would be coding and Unreal Engine but other than that gaming ofc 😄

[mellow galleon]

then it does not matter, just pick your favorite color or based on gaming charts

[mellow galleon]

using extension that was resold to suspicious people multiple times? asking for trouble, lol. using uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger + customized handmade extensions (as it is quite easy to develop extensions for FF and share it between own devices)

[opaque pond]

8840hs opinion for ue5?

[frank glade]

I have a 7745hx on my UE laptop, honestly okay, not that much slower than my desktop 13600k. But I dont compile

[opaque pond]

With the igpu?

[frank glade]

Yeah, and a 4060

[opaque pond]

I meant using the igpu alone

without an external one

[opaque pond]

The gpu

[frank glade]

The 4060 is not external, the laptop has the 7745hx + 4060 dedicated

[violet spade]

What the hell is an iGPU, is this a new Apple product ? 😀

[opaque pond]

I am talking about the 8840hs

[frank glade]

yes I know

[opaque pond]

is that good?

[naive cloak]

it seems like next generation of PC components will require installing fire suppression system into the case...

[mighty patrol]

Also your gpu will need an m.2 ssd

[median marsh]

https://www.guru3d.com/review/asus-dual-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-ssd-oc-edition-with-m2-slot-review/ asus got you covered

[plush turret]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-why-whaat-umm-gif-12580799062910001939

all i can imagine is glowing drive

[median marsh]

because the 4060 runs fine with 8 pci express lanes

and is always in an x16 slot

[mighty patrol]

Efficiency!

[plush turret]

but wouldnt that risk heat damage to the ssd?

[serene dome]

The M.2 2280 slot's position on the back of the card ensures user accessibility and is paired with a thermal pad to ensure the SSD remains cool during intensive tasks. Asus has engineered the card’s PCB to enable the GPU's cooling system to also encompass the SSD, mitigating potential heat issues and, in initial tests, reducing SSD temperatures by 10°C.

[plush turret]

key term there initial

[grave sundial]

I think it'll be fine so long as the dust is kept off of it and the thermals can function optimally. The card itself draws less power - 160W TDP - and the SSD will receive cooling from both its own thermal pad AND the GPU's cooler. I think it'll be okay. IF it isn't cleaned with a blower regularly, that might cause problems. 🤷

I'd love to see a performance comparison between THIS 4060 TI 16GB and the regular one.

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10636/asus-dual-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-ssd-oc-edition/index.html

Yeah, they benchmarked it.

It seems to be efficient, if the writer is to be believed.

I'd still prefer a 4070ti, but yeah, the thing works fine.

Just checked. It's very slightly less expensive than the standard 16GB 4060ti and this one has only 8GB. Might not be attractive if you'd like that extra 8GB on your card.

The 4070ti 12GB is about 50-60% more expensive than this where I live. I reckon I'd go for that instead, given the performance difference.

🤔 Maybe one day we'll have an all-in-one CPU-GPU-RAM chip.

[barren goblet]

We do. Apples M series chips 😂

[grave sundial]

🤣

[barren goblet]

Though all in one really makes me raise an eyebrow feels like Jack of all trades. Good at everything great at nothing 😂

[grave sundial]

I did mean a lazy-dev-functional one, but lmao. 😄

[barren goblet]

Yes that’s fair haha

[grave sundial]

AMD did create a CPU-GPU combination for 1080p.

I am not sure if it is on the market atm. I only saw that article in January.

[barren goblet]

Huh 🤔

[grave sundial]

Ah, AMD Ryzen 8000G.

[barren goblet]

I’m an intel fanboy but man the ryzens are starting to tempt me

[grave sundial]

Supposedly awesome at 1080p and sucky upwards. 😄

[barren goblet]

That’s still impressive

[grave sundial]

Yep. It got me excited for sure.

[barren goblet]

For a cpu/GPU combo

[grave sundial]

Ah, it's in the market since Jan 31st.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/ryzen-8000g-review-an-integrated-gpu-that-can-beat-a-graphics-card-for-a-price/

Benchmarked. 🙂

[barren goblet]

Oh nice I think I saw one of those maybe it was a different one but someone was playing warzone on medium with no GPU

and honestly that’s not bad

[grave sundial]

That's probably it, yes.

[plush turret]

Is there a general downside to having the gpu running all the time besides general wear on components

[barren goblet]

Not really. Arguments go both ways for keeping your computer on vs turning it off at night

[plush turret]

Im talking under load

[grave sundial]

Assuming your machine's clean, thermal paste is in good condition, cooler isn't broken, etc. etc., in good conditions, no, there's no problem.

The only issue a friend of mine faced was that his PSU blew out, but that was because it was a generic one and not a top-of-the-line, efficient component.

I think those Titanium/Platinum rated PSUs will do just fine overnight for ages.

[fallen oasis]

Let's. It forget the power bill and saving the planet etc

[violet spade]

Why you’d need to keep your cpu under load for days on end is another story

[grave sundial]

Yeah, that's why I didn't mention the electric bill and stuff.

Unless you have some week-long rendering to finish, you wouldn't need to keep your machine running.

[grave sundial]

Has anyone here updated their mobo BIOS more than once, or maybe a couple of times?
If so, have you ever had to update the BIOS of a new mobo that you purchased? Is it easy to do without bricking the hardware?

[opaque pond]

ye its easy

[fallen oasis]

Just don't turn it off while flashing.

[grave sundial]

Yeah, this was one thing I was concerned about on desktops.

With my laptop, I don't have to worry about that. The backup inverter handles the load change when there's a blackout.

With a desktop with modern hardware, I wonder if I'll need to invest in a bigger inverter to handle the change, so I don't brick it especially while flashing.

[fallen oasis]

You aren't going to brick it.

[grave sundial]

You can just flash it again?

[fallen oasis]

It's just going to work.

[fervent jolt]

Don't flash it during a thunderstorm or blizzard or hurricane or tornado

[mellow galleon]

or get a UPS

[ionic wing]

Just bought a Gigabyte Z790 for my 14 series. The board actually came with the latest Bios for the 14th Gen. That was unexpected but awesome. As for updating the Bios... it couldnt be easier! You don't even have to have any components plugged into the board, just power and your USB stick with the new bios. The board had 3 different options for bios updating. Nice and EASY!

[grave sundial]

Cool. Didn't you need to execute any file from the USB? Does it automatically run?

[frank glade]

I had to pay the shop to do it when buying my mb since I had no 12th gen intel to temporarily use (and no usb bios)

[grave sundial]

Ah, there is that option too. 🤔

[barren goblet]

Unless it’s a server not sure why you would. Server grade parts are more designed for that

[plush turret]

Fyi house is net positive solar powered. Generates 20% more than it uses, energy bill is negligible

Self hosted game server for friends.

[naive cloak]

what solar panels you use? what company?

[plush turret]

not sure, just know we paid extra to have them over generate

house uses ~1MW a year, we paid for a system that makes 1.2MW

only cost about $40,000

[midnight kernel]

oooof, you could get a couple cars with that amout!

[gusty parrot]

Hey guys! I'm starting to build my pc and I want to know which CPU do you recommend for UE5. Also, I want to use houdini and embergen. Thanks!

[devout pendant]

Hey guys! https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8PVFL9 Is this a Good PC build to run Unreal Engine 5 at full compacity no issues for someone who wants to do programming game dev work? C++ (No Blueprints)

[median marsh]

not sure about the quality of some parts tho... (never heard of silicon power storage, no good experience with G.Skill)

[opaque pond]

Only

[grave sundial]

Silicon Power is a Taiwanese company. They produce 'affordable' storage solutions - both SSDs and NVMEs; affordable being defined as using no DRAM cache in their drives. That makes their SSDs and NVMEs much cheaper than any mainstream solutions.

The downside is that if you are compiling, installing Windows on it, writing a lot of data repeatedly, etc., the drive will slow down to HDD speeds eventually, as the 'front' NAND chips get filled up. So, SP drives are great for games, where you don't have to write repeatedly, and for storing videos and movies.

[devout pendant]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RCVRBL

wat about this build i found from reddit?

[grave sundial]

When you eventually decide on the build you want, make sure that the power supply unit (PSU) can support the CPU + GPU primarily, at full load. If you have power blackouts in your area, you will want to invest in a UPS that supports the max wattage of your PSU + 50%, so that when the power drops, the UPS is able to handle the transition and keep your machine running without causing a reboot. The +50% is required only at full load, but it's better to be safe. The UPS will cost you too, especially the good ones.

Disclaimer: I read this on the internet. So trust it at your own risk and ask some experts around you.

[median marsh]

yea, even i would pick 850W for that system

even tho 750W should be sufficient, but if you get a new one better be safe than sorry

[mighty patrol]

With the extra watts can also help future proof psu a bit while you can upgrade other parts down the road.

[grave sundial]

I also read on the internet - which you can totally trust - that the higher watt and better rated PSUs are longer-lasting and won't just wonk out on you. HOWEVER, platinum/titanium rated ones are EXPENSIVE.

[mighty patrol]

I mean generally should take things with a grain of salt, however buying a 850w hoping to upgrade much later isn't really a thing either.

[mellow galleon]

don't trust reddit. always check QVL lists on motherboard manufacturer support page with stuff you going to use

building based on QVL guarantees no issues with parts since vendor tested the compatibility for you

[mellow galleon]

you dont need to go plat, gold is enough and nowadays cheap

An 80 Plus Gold power supply is 87 percent efficient at 100 per cent load, while an 80 Plus Platinum model is 89 percent efficient at 100 per cent load.
This means that a 700-watt 80 Plus Gold power supply will draw 791 watts of power from the wall socket to deliver 700 watts to PC components.

just 2 percent difference at max load

[wind egret]

At least Titanium has some extra requirements for efficiency at low load. Platinum is delusional.

[grave sundial]

Buying a computer these days basically requires hours of reading documentation.

Everyone should get a Photoshopped Ph.D. gratis. 👨‍🎓