hardware

[median marsh]

i'm just describing what we are supposed to see 😄

[fallen oasis]

Oh noes, he says data placed. How amazing 😦

[median marsh]

you cant trust any video

how would you proof that the image wasnt on the usb stick the whole time 😄

he even has it on the target machine before... to compare the data

[fresh fog]

Even if he loaded up am empty stick there's no guarantee he doesn't have something on startup to copy the image over on laptop 3

[vestal tundra]

cold boot attack is what it's called. I'm not sure if his example is legit or not, but it's supposedly a real thing

[fresh fog]

That's pretty cool

[median marsh]

i think that was more like the power supply where the caps had enough charge?

since AT psus where either on or off, not that soft power like ATX

ok i only knew it from AT systems

where pushing the power button twice quick enough had the same effect

[fallen oasis]

I used to do that with my power switch sometimes. Turn it off and on quickly and see if it stayed alive!

https://www.evercase.co.uk/images/PSU/PSU/psu.jpg Do they still make these?!

[cerulean nest]

Hi guys, for running UE5, it’s better using PC or Gaming laptop?

[ivory burrow]

PC ofcourse

[cerulean nest]

Do you have recommendations for CPU , GPU and RAM?

[ivory burrow]

Depends on your budget but im not a very hardware guy

[cerulean nest]

Around 3k-4k maybe, do u know how long we can use pc for game development? I mean still good on the next 5 years
I from Mac users

[ivory burrow]

for 3-4k you can get a beast

[cerulean nest]

But everything in here become expensive for hardware 😂

[ivory burrow]

Still

[drifting axle]

13900k (u can choose the 7950x too ofc, if you game a lot you might even take a look at the 7950x3d) if you choose the 13900k, definetly get a contact frame. 4090 with 64GB 6000MHz or 128 GB but 64GB dual channel is the most stable. With 128gb you have to cut them around 4000MHz for a stable result iirc. RTX4090 ofc, just make sure you have 24GB VRAM with that budget

[cerulean nest]

When i tried simulation from your recommendations, in here to be around 8k-9k

Which one is better? Intel or AMD for CPU? I think I'll be using it a lot for game development

[drifting axle]

What simulation? Benchmark or „simulating“ the money to spend?

[cerulean nest]

Simulation price hardware

[drifting axle]

Might depend on ur country. I would easily get those for that budget

[cerulean nest]

Yeah, tax is high in here

Thank you for your recommendations by the way @drifting axle

[drifting axle]

1.8k usd would be the 4090 in my country, what would you pay for it?

[cerulean nest]

4090 around 2800

[drifting axle]

Oh wow

[cerulean nest]

So expensive

[median marsh]

so the 3-4k aren't USD...!?

[mighty cosmos]

a 4090 is about 2400$ USD here as well

[silent wyvern]

Anyone here using laptop for UE5?

I was thinking of buying powerful or gaming laptop for UE5

To work with UE5 when traveling

[opaque pond]

Me

[silent wyvern]

what's your laptops' model and config

[opaque pond]

i got a 4500u , 16gb ram and a 256gb ssd

[silent wyvern]

Your laptop isn't melted in UE5?

[opaque pond]

not yet

[eager storm]

What I do is use a shitty laptop and use parsec to remote access my work computer.

[plush turret]

assuming im building my new PC bit by bit (paycheck by paycheck) what should i get first (with GPU and HDD's being last)?

paycheck being around $800 every month

my thought is
1: case
2: PSU
3: Motherboard
4: CPU
5: cooling
6: ram
7: SDD

then the 2 HDD's and the gpu being very last

also have the video card ports physically changed in the last like 15 years?

true but i have a long haird cat that sheds like its 100F in the house

i had to put a filter on my laptop and media desktop fans because her hair gets EVERYWHERE

the case is honestly cheap enough, and the engineer in me cringes because non of my current cases fit this

so theres nothing to effectively mount it

only case i have thats large enough, is the "never shut down" minimalistic desktop that handles the media i download and store (32tb soft raid HDD)

doesnt that need its own PCU?

power supply

well yeah

tbh my knowledge of hardware lags considerably behind the curve

[north forge]

if you're on a budget I would just get an older gen gpu tbh

[plush turret]

its only recently ive gotten to the point where i have all my bills setup to afford a decent computer inside a year

[north forge]

can even get a second hand one

of course not

I'm still living with my 1070ti just fine

not doing 4k gaming but who cares

[plush turret]

main thing is my income is regularly in flux, so

until recently

ye im realizing that

[north forge]

also depending on your purposes you could get away with an i5 instead of 7 but depends what you wanna do mostly

[plush turret]

this is the laptop im currently living lif with:

[north forge]

any reason to go with liquid cpu cooling?

[plush turret]

anything modern will outstrip my current setup

[north forge]

I'm still running of this cooler with no issues https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005HIRDUA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[plush turret]

my desktop currently has 12gb ram, and a dual core A4-7300

[north forge]

of course I built this over 5 years ago

my server even runs on a passive cooler 😎 but of course doesn't do much heavy stuff

[plush turret]

yeah im mainly looking to buy a decent setup for game and dev, and not really have to worry too much about it for another 4-6 years

game wise im into GTA/RDR and space engineers

yeah

into more games but those are obviously the most resource heavy in their groups

i know

is this what i should be grabbing?https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGJRHX1X?

part picker says compatible

[north forge]

and of course don't forget the 300 dollar custom mechanical keyboard to go with it 😎

[plush turret]

fe is founders edition right?

yeah thats where i went

hm cant seem to find founders for under like 2k

i may not be looking in the right space

and by slots you need those pop out bits on the back of the case right?

this would really only be my second hand built computer, my lifestyle until now has forced me to be laptop oriented

[frigid heath]

https://tenor.com/view/liilmini-lilminichair-lil-mini-chair-gif-25631470

[plush turret]

theres no difference between this and the FE other than size right? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGJRHX1X?

space isnt an issue

my office is 12 foot x 12 foot and my desk has like 30 square feet of space

ah yes

i just got off a 12 shift

[frigid heath]

space inside the case ↕️

[plush turret]

my brains a little slow

and cooling itself shouldnt be that hard, once i get the heat outside the computer its gone, my office is right next to the AC unit so im ducting a specific send and return vents for the computers in here

yeah

BTU mass transfer

HVAC trained, so yeah i know theres a maximum threshold

yeah

and physical case size doesnt matter i have like 6 square feet setup just for it

is this decent enough for a cooler or still too big? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086BYYFG5

i dont mind spending a little extra for good setup as i will be using this for 6+ hours a day

i do 3 12 hour shifts for work so i get 4 days to play

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KX9V4CT

better?

parts checker says compatible

[fresh fog]

Noctua nh d15 easily outperforms most of the medium end liquid coolers :P

[plush turret]

i dont know much about this stuff as until now been using laptops

[frigid heath]

if ur in an AC area stock is prolly gunna do just fine.. might make more noise but not allwats

[fresh fog]

That's just making sure you don't buy a card that's over the listed case clearance, or buying the wrong CPU for the wrong motherboard etc.

[frigid heath]

stock cooler

[plush turret]

noise is fine

i usually have something on my media pc going

[frigid heath]

Im usin stock cooler on my amd cpu and its fine... its the big case fans that more more noise anyways

[plush turret]

put the d15 on the list

[frigid heath]

amd stock coolers also suck... dont care 😛

[plush turret]

as for ram should i go 2 32gb sticks or 4 16

[frigid heath]

actually have a big cupper cool block with a big fan... never bothered to put it on.. needed to get a bracket for it

its prolly 10$ of cupper or some shit

[fresh fog]

Always try to run 2 sticks unless you run a threadripper

Rip bandwidth

[plush turret]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPDD6GD

[fresh fog]

That's also a good cooler

[plush turret]

epic

now for SSD

is there a need for more than 4tb ssd?

if i have 32TB in a box i can make backups/long term storage too

[fresh fog]

I'm running out of case space for ssds. I also don't have any hard drive space. Desperately running out of storage and my only m.2 SSD slot is in use. Do you think it's worth getting one of those pcie cards that hold a bunch of m.2 ssds

I made a poor case choice, and my PSU had rather stiff cables, with it being semi modular, so the drive cage had to go :P

Oooh noooo

I've been trying to find an excuse to build a new system but I can't. I ain't gonna fix what ain't broken

I just love the building process

It's really fun

[plush turret]

but tbh aside from what i can fit on thew 2TB i dont need the high read case use of an SSD

standard SATA would work fine for long term movie and video storage

until i pull out the RAID box

[frigid heath]

ive been thinking of putting the epic launcher in sandboxie... it just puts stuff on randome places on random drives all the time 😛

[plush turret]

and 8TB Sata drive is like half what the 2TB SSD is

[frigid heath]

vault... shader cache ... all that sort of things

i know how to change it... but than i get a new engine version and it still creates a new folder in appdata when i boot it up

[plush turret]

so yeah i cut like $900 off my pc build just here and now

i still need to figure out the monitor(s)

[frigid heath]

1440p 144hz

[plush turret]

tbh... aside from being brighter, i dont really see much of a difference with refresh rates so yeah

my current monitor is some $100 thing from walmart my boss gave me

they bought 3 while setting up the store and turned out they needed 2 + waited too long so they couldnt return it

[frigid heath]

i sit pretty close to my monitor... really dont need 4k... if i get a bigger monitor than this i dont even like it

[plush turret]

yeah

only place i want 4K is media output

[frigid heath]

think this is 24 inch... pretty basic

its not HDR.. some ppl swear by that, but when i bought this monitor that was super rare

[plush turret]

yeah tbh... i dont get what everyone rants about with needing $$$$ periphrials and monitors with the absolute best refresh rate

[frigid heath]

lik 10monitors had it

[plush turret]

keep in mind, my first gaming experience that wasnt a windows 98 laptop, was an HP slim with vista and 2gb ram

[frigid heath]

you would really need to check that in a store too see it i guess, i never seen a hdr screen i think

[plush turret]

my first personal laptop had 256mb ram and 32gb IDE HDD

in 2016

im used to dealing with old/second hand stuff

[frigid heath]

my 1st pc had 4mb ram and bought 4 more for like 800$

[plush turret]

and tbh, lag is like part of my life in general

[frigid heath]

mb, not gb

[plush turret]

i know

but im a '99 baby

[frigid heath]

i gor my 1st pc pretty young... paid for the ram myself

[plush turret]

my first all mine computer was a laptop with a 3.5in floppy drive and windows XP home edition

bought and upgraded to Service pack 3 myself

was like $40 for the god damned specially formated floppy drives

tbh. i only asked my parents (who would have likely said yess anyways) for a computer once

and its still chugging away next to me

its got 8TB SATA and filled with movies and shows

[frigid heath]

that sounds perfectly not pirated at all 😛

[plush turret]

tbh... i cant stream jack didly

im still on DSL

i get 0.3MB/s

down and 0.045MB/s up

so yeah lag... i live it

also you have to love games that seem to reward having trash systems by letting you simply disable grass vs just using an alternative method of graphical handling

like "my system is so bad i can snipe because grass wont render, they cant see me but i see them"

ok so my brain is bugging at something, MB's come with fans for the CPU yes/no?

someone mentioned "stock"

[frigid heath]

some CPU come with a cooler

usually works fine if ur room never goes over 30C

[plush turret]

i know

[frigid heath]

dunno, 1st time i got 144 it really burned my eyes for 2 days for some reason 😛

[plush turret]

hence comma

[frigid heath]

got used to it and love it now

[plush turret]

tbh im so used to lag, anything that isnt rubber banding or even slightly better than the screen in an inspiron laptop is better

to an extent

this laptop has an old style LCD

oh i know

but anything is better than latant image LCD that triggers my autism and ADHD like crazy

question since the power supply picked isnt really out there, what aside from the 1000w power rating, what should i be looking for?

given i have the GPU, SDD and 1-2 SATA drives, and the little things, to power

is there a company known for best reliability? idk what could really go wrong with the thing but like from noise

my current desktop has a random 450w supply in it, and its pretty quiet

im getting the 4090

yeah tbh id dont mind it as long as its not "going to warp" all the time unless im telling unreal to package something

yeah overall this seems like a still fairly quiet build

yeah personally i dont mind, as i said i usually have some tv show or movie playing in the background for the gerbil in my head to listen too

i just dont want the video and my pc fans competing for noise all the time and keeping people awake

[mighty cosmos]

I don't think I've seen the fan on my PSU spin once and I head it for a few years 😅

[plush turret]

so i found a group of 14 12vhpwr equipped PSU's

and all are $150-180

loudest single thing on my current desktop is the disk reader

an old x27 dvd-rw thing that sounds like a plane engine when reading a disk

yeah

yep

totally agree

but i mean these are from the partpicker list (dont really trust the first like 8 pages of google cause traffic routers)

[mighty cosmos]

You basically can't go wrong with Corsair RM (X) series
They make quality PSUs

[plush turret]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BYQHWJXC

thats fine

yeah

tbh unless the cables are gonna melt cause they arnt perfectly routed, i dont mind a little clutter, most of my focus is on the monitor not the rig

yeah

im very, very used to cable working, the management of where they go is meh

currently my desk looks pretty until you look under it and its a rats nest

as i add more cables for more features i just grab a cable mount from the collection i bought and stick the cable up under the desk

ouch

and melting inside is fatal bad or "nightmare" bad

well yeah

wouldnt GPU be one of the LAST things you put on it?

i have a fully setup and well lit electronics table in the house

dads an electrical engineer

it helps cause i have vastly more respect for cable connections and general electrical caution

better than out maintenance dude who was trying to pull out things from behind an outlet pannel with a metal screw driver and "getting shocked"

uh whats the difference between whats on my list and the first 2 considerably less expensive items

yeah whats on my list is ddr5

yeah im just curious why these are so much less, other than the DDR4 there doesnt seem to be a difference

wild the more costly one doesnt have wifi

is this the SSD port or something else?

tbh where a SSD goes is the only real head scratcher i have left

well and what exactly the difference between these PCIe ports are:

[mighty cosmos]

Sorry, went to check which one I actually got and got distracted with how dusty the fans are so ended up cleaning that 😅
It's RM1000X

And for my own sanity had to check the connector..
It's in 😅

yeah it's 4 tentacle ugly looking thing, meant to order the 2 cable corsair one but a bit of a pain to get it here

Switched to the 4090 like 2 months ago

[spice girder]

the m.2 ssd go unter slot is over the top pcie x16 slot. There is a heatsink that you need to remove first to be able to install it.

[plush turret]

here?

[plush turret]

this?

yeah i noticed the SSD gets HOT

in my current laptop its like the #1 heat generator for specific point heat

so my new desktop seems to have 4 slots for SSD's is that normal?

[spice girder]

pcie 4 m.2 can get hot so you should use somesort of heat sink

[plush turret]

nice

[plush turret]

are all 3 of these for the GPU (one at a time obviously)?

the silver one?

what are the other 2 for?

so more just modular upgrade stuff

yeah

im assuming this is like what the 4090 is gonna take up?

maybe not all the way to the right but basically?

kinda wanna see what it looks like in yalls rigs

i know from images its BIG, but just HOW BIG

yeah

tbh probably gonna buy everything but the GPU first, then see what exactly the FE costs vs the one on my list

yeah the GPU will require much research cause thats a huge chunk of change and more than half of the computers price

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hawkart0522/saved/xXVTmG

current build

i do like that its all prime

i cut like $900 from the price and ended up with something more capable and more to my needs

yeah

tbh i prefer it to be overkill because its by far the most expensive thing, and in 4-6 years when i get around to updating the hardware it wont be really crappy

i currently just put coffee filteres with 3m sticky pads over the ports

its cheap and simple and doesnt restrict airflow by any real amount but no cat hairs

i mean its not pretty, but im like the only one who see's it

i also like the clearish front so i can see inside to whats making noise

plus its cool to simply watch the whole thing work

also looks like the only price for an FE 4090 is $2,000

nvidia is aparently out or i cant find like a page for it

HM

maybe its just temp out

probably because they are so desired

[mighty cosmos]

it's 2400$ here 🥲

[plush turret]

yeah

yeah dallas if that helps

[mighty cosmos]

oh yeah 2k sounds a bit much for US

[median marsh]

best buy had hell of a 3090 deal when the 40xx series released

was $800 or $900 for 3090s left in stock

https://gadgettendency.com/geforce-rtx-3080-for-just-420-and-rtx-3090-ti-for-800-best-buy-sells-nvidia-graphics-cards-at-unbelievable-prices/

but that did only last short 😭

[plush turret]

yeah seems like everyone is out of stock with the 4090

at lease in the 1600ish price range

at least with this build i can sort of wait around to buy it

yeah

worst case might buy a lower 40 series while i wait (just for better visuals) and gift it to my friend who has no cash to stick in his computer (some alienware with a 1060 in it

tbh idk what id need nvidia exclusive for

the nice RTX shaders?

[frigid heath]

for gaming AMD is just fine

[plush turret]

ill admit, that overall im more a writer and manager than coder, but i havent gotten into coding cause my best computer has 8gb ram and an 8 year old AMD with vega

it just crashes every game engine but godot and game maker

[frigid heath]

personally i dont need high end vid card

i dont use much vram.. i like my extra cores tho

[mighty cosmos]

Would be nice to have more than 24GB for ML

[plush turret]

this summerizes my entire capcity rn

it is potato but has an SSD in it

its an hp elitebook

it was also free

potato or not

[median marsh]

its everything but elite

[frigid heath]

fuck that shit... just buy a 1100$ pc with a 400$ vid card in it and get it over with 😛

[plush turret]

(it is a potato but its still an old lady)

i did have that

[mighty cosmos]

Well 4090 is a great ML card, performance is even comparable to the A100s

yeah 🥲

[plush turret]

a dell inspiron 7590 2-in-1 (i like to draw on my computer)

[frigid heath]

you can grab a desktop from the recycle centre for free thats better than that

[plush turret]

i did get it on sale cause "out of box" and it lasted 5 years

[mighty cosmos]

Have you tried running SD, I would imagine it's super fast on the 4090

fp16

how quickly?

[plush turret]

tbh a lot of the laptop focus is that until the last month or so my lifestyle was highly mobile as a large area vendor

[mighty cosmos]

try this dimensional refraction, high quality, intricate detail, fantasy, mysterious, eerie, eternal (got a cool result with that in MJ)

[plush turret]

whatever rig i had needed to fit in a suitcase (alongside 3 weeks clothes) and pass airport and amtrack security

[frigid heath]

really any cheap pc you buy is gunna 5x the speed of that shit... dont really need to go all out for an upgrade

[mighty cosmos]

higher quality

[plush turret]

yeah though i want a rig thats gonna be powerful enough in 4-6 years it wont be what the Old Lady is now

she is a potato yes, but she tries hard

[frigid heath]

nah.. futureproofing is not a thing

buy a 1100pc now and buy another in 2 years

[plush turret]

if my potato were a person it quallifies for over 120 thousand flight miles

this thing has done a remarkable job being tossed around and run through all that happens when you basically live out of a hotel room 24 of 30 days in the month

for 4 years

but yes now i have a normal 9-5 and a house to stick a very nice rig in

and i have so much dispoable i want something a bit overpowered

plus if im going to actually get into development it would help to have something that wont melt

[frigid heath]

getting a 600$ vid card or getting a 1600 vid card is only goin to help in certain cases

[frigid heath]

you can cross that bridge when u get there and sell ur old gpu :p

[plush turret]

tbh if im getting rid of hardware thats actually applicable to modern day i give it to friends

selling is usually more hassle than the relationship boost gifting gives

[frigid heath]

same, or i make a linux build for server shit

[plush turret]

i cant do server shit period

i have DSL and only DSL

ISP has laid fiber, but has not activated fiber for buying

[frigid heath]

local server shit

dedi server type stuff

[plush turret]

yeah

[frigid heath]

ha

[plush turret]

tbh unless you need to be at cutting edge hardware anything like that build will not have trouble playing anything for the next 5 years and might have issues near desired EOL when it comes to gamedev

but like unless something RADICALLY new comes to the gamedev world a 4090 should still pack enough punch

i mean people are here making games with 10's and 20's series

[frigid heath]

and those are fine cards

[plush turret]

i mean tbh unless your building for like 1% of the steam population to use 100% of their resources a 4090 will be quite future proof for the next 5-8 years

something like 43% of all steam users use intel/amd built in graphics

the next 80% of remaining users fall between the cheapest MX150 and the 2080ti's

[frigid heath]

buying a desktop with a 600$ card is goin to up his performance by 1000%, getting a 1600 card is goin to make it 1200%

[plush turret]

i agree it is, for now

but im also looking at what might be coming over the horizon in the next 3-4 years game wise

[frigid heath]

really that stuff is for when you need to render frames 6 days a week

[plush turret]

ones that were built ground up with RTX capacity not simply given some RTX support and sent on its way

specifically for the power of the 40 series

[frigid heath]

you can do the exact same with a cheap card but it will take 30% longer

i render when i sleep 😛

[plush turret]

time is money, and like i said while i still need to buy it bit by bit, my monthly disposable income is like $800

so like 4 months to buy the whole rig

and thats even after savings, fun fund, and a 10% cushion for "gotta haves"

mainly i like that i cut like a full month off the cost procurement and netted a much more beastly machine

would the i9 12900K still fit the same socket? i know its really just newer but if im gonna be using CPU dragging games like space engineers, and going for power (plus its like $80 more than whats currently in there)

if you arent familiar with space engineers it ate the crap out of my 8th gen i7 in my laptop and barely touched the ram and gpu

(MX250 laptop gpu)

[frigid heath]

i would go for a 1600 machine.. 200.. 250 monitor... 50$ mouse 300$ chair

[plush turret]

i like my POS chair tbh, my $12 logitiec mouse, and my razor cynosia 2

its half broken but its actually kinda comfortable, regular squirts of WD40 to the base and its quiet

[frigid heath]

ahh i also have an old chair, not a gamer one.... my grandpa actually used to sit in it

[plush turret]

mine is from my dads last office job, they were downsizing and were chucking a bunch of old office chairs

[frigid heath]

but a friend of mine was buyin a 3000$ pc.. for his old monitor sitting on a wooden kitchen chair...

[plush turret]

so we grabbed a bunch that were in meh condition (all were broken somewhat) and cobbled together a rather nice wide office chair i can actually side sideways in

[frigid heath]

i told him dont get that 2nd gpu.. get a chair an monitor :p

[plush turret]

i have a decent sized desk. one of those sitting standing desks, got it for $80 as a birthday gift from one of dads friends kids

tbh i drive a meh car, my living area is meh, but long as my tech is in working order and i can game and do my job ill spend a lot on it

[frigid heath]

he got the monitor and a chair... and a year later he went all out on a new chair... that thing really nice 😛

[plush turret]

i got a decent bed, new phone, new smart watch, and now im working on my pc

oh yes, once my tech is in order i can focus on the office

i actually spent some time and effort getting my office setup for the incoming rig

indirect LED lighting, nice pro printer i got for free from a job, touch on/off lap for reading, and enough space for my laptop and my desktop + monitor

lamp is near door so i can walk in at night and it turns on when you touch it

[frigid heath]

your printer looks like r2d2

or wallE

[plush turret]

walle more

its a ricoh

they retailed for like $2300 and sell on ebay for like 420-1800

full printer, scanner and copier (black and white) with print server support

so i can print from any device on my wifi

[frigid heath]

i dont print a lot.. i just know epson printers are a total scam

[plush turret]

got it free cause one of the places i was vendoring at, was gonna chuck it cause they replaced it with a newer and better brother printer

[frigid heath]

tossed that shit out after doin 1 print when it said the ink was past due date

[plush turret]

this things likes to leak a little ink on the side of the page but doublesided printing looks nice for professional stuff

plus "ID mode" that can smart detect an ID you scanned and give it like 1300DPI

[frigid heath]

fucking scammers.. i can hit epson printers with a baseball bat all day

[plush turret]

so you can save a fully legible and readable digital copy

i prefer brother and HP

[frigid heath]

you can buy an epson printer for 40$ with ink... and ink basically lasts forever.. but the software says the ink is no good

and you have to buy new ink for 80$

[plush turret]

i have a really old HP printer that doesnt bark at me for not putting color in it

[frigid heath]

after 1 month

[plush turret]

and is actually really reliable

its one of those that only has enough software to tell your driver that its ink is low, and to use indicator lights

[frigid heath]

ink no good.. buy new ink... we only accept epson ink cartridges

[plush turret]

its also really compact and seems to accept traveling

[frigid heath]

bought the printer.. made 1 print... a few months later i tossed it

wouldnt print anymore

[plush turret]

my company paid for 1 suitcase up to "Large" and i need to carry 3 weeks worth of clothing, supplies, and my tech with me for the vast majority of the month

its like $21 for a new ink cartridge for this printer, and i bought like 5. and it takes quite a bit for them to run out

like 600 pages a cart

the ricoh costs like $30

with shipping

[frigid heath]

my hp printer lasted 4ever... it would try to print even if there was no ink

[plush turret]

and the rich can do like 30,000 pages on the thing

yep

old HP printers are beasts

new ones idk

[frigid heath]

the whole paper thing is a scam 🙂

[plush turret]

hah i wish but i need to be able to print out vender tags and invoices for companies im working with

the company gave me some POS printer and the thing broke in transit and bleed ink on like 1/3 of my clothes

so for like a week i had to wear stark gleaming black shirts and pants

[frigid heath]

well, gotta log, good luck with ur new rig 🙂

[plush turret]

i hope so

[plush turret]

cant wait till the only bottleneck to my gaming is my internet

[plush turret]

will it fit and is it enough more powerful enough to justify the 30% increase in price?

[fallen oasis]

With the bios upgrade stuff, is that a "won't POST" issue or "won't get full capabilities"?

[fallen oasis]

Well that's a shitter.

[fallen oasis]

Or a board that just already supports your cpu out of the box.

[plush turret]

for the most part im happy with this setup

and it fits my bills better, and i like having more power than im likely to use rather than chronically unable to play basic games

well and developing for the next 4-6 years

prefer all around, and this seems to be it.

yeah

what i currently have?

in the list

im probably sticking with the 7

id need a different mb for the 13 wouldnt i

is that easy for a novice to do?

hm so better to change both cpu and mb at this point given im assuming the Z690-A WIFI doesnt have it?

seems to support it, takes time to flash but it seems yes

is an i9 more powerful enough to be worth the extra $$ over an i7?

assuming im going to use it fully with dev

im curious cause my 8th gen i7 on my laptop ran pretty smooth in space engineers unless i was putting overly large amounts of physics calc strain

alright but is the 9 enough better to be worth it over the 7

im willing to spend if its worth the extra price

[plush turret]

as for SSD if i already have an ssd i could put it in the rig before buying the nice 2TB one right? its an m2 as well

[plush turret]

i pulled it out of my game laptop when it died like 8 months ago

best case i have a 1tb drive with all my games i want already, and i get the new drive later, worst case i simply get a case for the drive and use it as a removable

[west quail]

Can someone help me? My newer cpu is no longer working after 5 hours but the CPU fan runs

CPU fan actually runs but psu and GPU don't and my mobos CPU led is lit up

With older cpu everything works as intended

Psu actually spins fine just not gpu

[mighty cosmos]

Could be fried CPU
Not to scare you but if it suddenly stopped working after being fine for hours, and other CPU working fine it sounds like hardware failure

My first 5950x worked for 2 hours, suddenly crashed, would get past bios but would end up restarting by itself
Turns out CPU cache friend itself

[west quail]

I hope not, was looking forward to using this, but you're probably right

If it helps before it stopped working windows gave me an error saying Kernel Security failure

[mighty cosmos]

Blue screen?

Does your MB have that status/error code display?

[west quail]

It was a windows bluescreen

But it stopped at 35% so I used my screwdriver to power off

But fan stayed on so I pressed the switch on the psu

[fallen oasis]

"used your screwdiver to power off"? You mean the power switch on the mobo? I hope you do.

[west quail]

Yes

I don't have a case

[fallen oasis]

Does your mobo have an error code display?

A little LED number display.

[west quail]

Don't think so, it has LEDs that are labeled

Cpu led is on for my new CPU, after a few seconds on my old one the led turns off

Was working for 4-5 hours then I went to go take a shower

[mighty cosmos]

That's pretty much how mine went out too, blue screen and wouldn't boot up anymore
The suspicious thing is that the other CPU works fine as you said

Everything you mentioned, to me seems to point to a hardware failure
Tho if it's under warranty you should be able to get a replacement no problem

[fallen oasis]

Did you take the motherboard into teh shower with you?

[west quail]

Not that I remember

[west quail]

I got it off Amazon I didn't pay for the warranty but I think it just comes with it right?

[fallen oasis]

They'll come with one, yes.

[mighty cosmos]

I would assume so yeah

[west quail]

Alright, thanks for the help

Sucks that I'll have to wait but whatever

[mighty cosmos]

Yeah it's a pain

[mighty cosmos]

Assuming this is an AMD CPU?

[west quail]

Ryzen 5900X

[mighty cosmos]

Yeah, ok
I know a few people who got a dead (or died after short use) 5xxx series CPU, and the exact same thing happened to me

Seems to be more common with AMD for whatever reason

[west quail]

That sucks, atleast it can be replaced though

[mighty cosmos]

yeah

[west quail]

CPU fans was \still spinning?

I got this on sale and I don't even think I can replace only return

[fallen oasis]

Just ask amazon.

[west quail]

ye I don't see a replace option only return

[mighty cosmos]

Yeah

[west quail]

this is stupid

paid so much for something that doesnt even work and cant even get a replace

[fallen oasis]

You'll have to just buy a different one 😦

[west quail]

was on sale so I won't be able to

brought it during prime day

[fallen oasis]

Well, get your money back and save up a little more 😦

[west quail]

Wtf, it works now

How do I make sure this doesn't happen again? Don't overclock my ram?

XMP was working perfectly fine with my old CPU but idk

[fallen oasis]

Enable XMP again and see if it works. Then run memtest86 for a bit to see if it's stable. Then some prime95. Or whatever the latest good versions are.

[west quail]

idk its just super weird not sure why I need to use XMP for already 3200MHz ram

[median marsh]

because most 3200MHz ram isn't 3200MHz ram

but advertised with it's overclocked XMP speed

[plush turret]

im trying to get a tablet for android app development, and i found this one, while im better with phone hardware this seems to be a decent device for light to mid complexity games: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B59LC3LC

does there seem to be a problem im not noticing?

im assuming its upgradable

is there anything in 13-14 that would be different enough to spend the extra change?

[median marsh]

are you planning to release next week? or is it possible that the current android version might be already 2 gens behind then?

[plush turret]

no, like months from now. mainly porting this UE4 game i made to android, i think it might do better there: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1701760/Park_Rangers_of_The_Undead/?beta=0

Steam

Park Rangers of The Undead

Welcome To Brentwood National Park. You have been hired by The Company to rid the park of its wildlife, which just happen to be ZOMBIES. As a retired Mercenary you are qualified to use any and all means at your disposal to achieve victory.

Price

$0.99

▶ Play video

just feel it would fit better as a primarily tablet game over phone

since android lets me load the protoype better than apple its better to test the general port on a $100 tablet than keep trying to push updates to my ipad

is there anything in the very latest android that would be a problem?

or that i could make use of for this game?

[fresh fog]

Your only problem with mobile would be getting noticed tbh

[plush turret]

yeah that i can solve with $$$

[plush turret]

also one thing i cant seem to resolve does the MB/cpu come with a default cpu fan or do i need to buy that separately

[plush turret]

yeah was mainly curious as "fans" in general i have

pulled enough out of computers to make an air cushion hoverboard for my HS science project

[west quail]

super scummy advertising then

[mighty cosmos]

The standard speed is 2400MHz (edit: 2133)
Advertised is what it can achieve with the xmp profile

[west quail]

standard is 2133

[mighty cosmos]

yeah whatever the default is

[fresh fog]

I mean that's been the standard of ram advertising for a while. I wouldnt call it particularly scummy. Slightly misleading, but they're designed to run with that setting on.

It's like saying it's scummy advertising that a 144hz monitor comes at 60hz out of the box, and you need to flick the setting on for 144hz :P

[west quail]

meh, not a really good analogy, didn't even hear of XMP until I got this new mobo

[wind egret]

2133 is the default but I think 2400 was the highest option for the original specs.
It follows that most RAM chips were built on the expectation of 2133-2400 at 1.2 volts and 2933-3200 at 1.35 volts (XMP) early on. JEDEC did later release a specification for 3200 at 1.2 volts and correspondingly worse CAS latency, but the opportunity to save a few milliwatts by having slower RAM didn't make a big splash in the consumer market. [On the other hand, there's now 4000+ mhz DDR4, for people who really don't want to upgrade to DDR5.]

[fresh fog]

yeah, its pretty common knowledge :P

[median marsh]

btw. who paid the costs for the damages on the 7000 series cpu's/mainboards due to memory overclocking? :>

since lot of brands don't give warranty when XMP is enabled / something is overclocked

[plush turret]

whats the difference between soft and Hard RAID? like from what i read it means connecting multiple HD's together to act as one to the OS

[plush turret]

i also have to say i dont get the hate wireless mice get

like why does the $13 mouse i have need to be replaced with another wired thing?

i agree my keyboard needs to be wired cause i like the RGB

[median marsh]

not much these days, and specially not much for RAIDs used at home

hw raid has a dedicated cpu/fpga which does some math, but it's pretty much not worth mentioning in a small raid with 2-4 mechanical drives

and with HW Raid you are kinda bound to that controller, if the controller fails you need a new one, and good HW raid controllers are a few hundred bucks

[plush turret]

Mainly since the MB im buying has 4 ssd slots was looking to get 2-4 2tb ssd's and use them connected

[median marsh]

but why...

[plush turret]

Idk im buying this in $800 segments and already have 2 SSD'

1 is 1tb the other is 500gb

[median marsh]

specially then there are better solutions which can combine multiple drives into one

unless you want raid for a specific reason, like mirroring/parity stuff (which then reduces the usable capacity by at least 1/3)

[plush turret]

Im like a total novice to this stuff so my accurate terms suck. Just want the 3 drives i have/will have to combine and read as on 3.5tb drive

[median marsh]

then read up on LVM

and i bet you spent more time on learning/implementing it, vs. handling your drives individually (without the risk of screwing up big time)

seriously, worst case is it spreads your project across different SSDs and one fails and you lose like 1/4 of your project...

the only thing that's somehow reasonable for home users on SSDs is imho raid with mirroring or parity disks, which as said all reduce your total usable capacity

but they at least protect your data from one device failure

[plush turret]

Yeah i backup my project to 2 separate raid hdd boxes

One has 12tb and one has 32

Unlike my last dev i subscribe to multiple backups

The 32tb is harder to get at cause it spends its life in a fireproof safe

[devout pendant]

Is this a good laptop for Unreal Engine

?

[fresh fog]

I don't see why you had to post this again either when you got your answer

[crisp kernel]

Well, basically don't use laptop as a work station if you have any better choice.

[median marsh]

it's good

if you want to make a sidescroller or smth not so demanding

[crisp kernel]

I believe you can have the option to buy bigger memory size for the same model

But still

[fresh fog]

In fairness 16GB RAM has treated me fine for smaller projects.

[median marsh]

but not for laura style small projects

[fresh fog]

You can definitely feel it. But it's not a huge problem

[median marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-huge-jimmy-fallon-gif-12900634

[crisp kernel]

The huge problem is you are roasting your fingers on the keyboard

[fresh fog]

Honestly the cooling is going to be massive issue. The moment that thing goes under load, it's going to give you third degree burns just by being in the same building as it :P

[crisp kernel]

As I said, don't use laptop if you can.

[fresh fog]

If you get hungry while developing, you can cook a steak on the keyboard! 😀

[median marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/had-enough-i-im-done-frustrated-chyba-cie-muli-gif-14478194

good for transport? kinda yeah

https://tenor.com/view/mercedes-benz-trucks-mbt-mercedes-mercedes-benz-actros-gif-23969437

desktop

[dark quartz]

my rtx 3060 temperature is 86 celsius degrees on unreal engine 5

I have a 500W psu

32gb of ram

and ryzen 5 1400 that i will change sooner

Is my gpu going to burn? lol

cause I saw many people recommending a 550W minimum psu

and a 650W recommended

[opaque pond]

It's not psu related

Probably case ventilation related

And its not going to burn it has systems to prevent that

[dark quartz]

I was in OC mode tho

but isn't 88 degrees the very maximum?

now its at 55

[opaque pond]

Ok then dont be in oc mode If your setup can't handle it

[dark quartz]

got it

[plush turret]

is there a way to let windows pull audio from 2 mic at the same time? like for recording? me and my co dev want to do "same room" gameplay demos and such for our games and the room is big enough for 2 desks but most mics have to be set to max gain to even barely hear us

[fresh fog]

I thought OBS could pull multiple mics at once anyway?

Would be pretty useless if it couldn't considering the podcast space and such

[hard jacinth]

laptop GPUs whats the lowest possible for 5.2 ?

whats ultimate?

ait

im mostly looking at what price range for the laptops

but im pretty sure that anything but macbook is a waste of money performance wise (atleast when UE on m.x is fully supported)

32gb moves me up in an already uncomfortable price range

yeah im on my asus from 2014 or whavever

cost me an arm and a leg back then

hence why im more hopeful about macbooks

[median marsh]

i think theres not even nanite on M1

linux got pretty good tho

[gray shadow]

Does getting 64 GB RAM instead of just 32 GB for i5-13600k (6P+8E = 20 threads) make sense or is that an overkill? For compiling I assume 1.5*20 = 30, so 32 GB should be enough, but I wonder about stability of UE5 editor for editing worlds etc. Is it worth it for mid range CPU with only 20 threads?

48 GB wasn't enough? what issues did it cause?

wow, good to know. Thank you!

Would getting 2 more P-cores (i7-13700K) would also be very noticeable for UE5?

[gray shadow]

ok, thanks.

[opaque pond]

well i am ok with 16gb of vram and 512MB vram

[frank glade]

I had a 9800 gt(?) with 512mb of vram

[opaque pond]

why?

my card is same speed as the 9800 GT apparently

[fresh fog]

Because it isn't enough to comfortably develop anything outside of small scale

[opaque pond]

well still

[gaunt tulip]

i was plugging my ram in and out because i noticed one of them wasnt being detected

one of them was working but after toying around eventually even that one has stopped working

and my pc seems to keep resetting - no bio splash screen either

any ideas?

[celest mulch]

what are the gpu requirements for a ue5-based game?

[gaunt tulip]

Hello thanks a lot - i only have 2 slots

Its an older pc and a little tinkering may have cost me. The Ram that was running fine is not running anymore. ):

I tried everything but blowing out dust which there probably is a lot of

Spent like 5 hours - this all started with me adding new ram that didn’t work. I put back the old rams and first one failed eventually both stopped working

All in a days work

Yeah you right tysm im gonna go home soon and try fixing it and cry

Friday night and no pc 🥸

[silent wyvern]

What is the comparable Nvidia GPUs that's on par in performance with base model Mac Mini M2's 10-core GPU?

[median marsh]

wow

didn't they claim that it's as fast as the rtx stuff? Oo

[wild hill]

Hi guys. May I have your advice about a new PC build for UE5 dev? Especially regarding the CPU, GPU, RAM. Well it won't be a prime PC build because I would go indie and work alone.

[wild hill]

Is DDR4 better than DDR5? I heard unstable problem of DDR5 for UE5.

[wild hill]

Sure, I would do this when I have my PC 🙂 Now I'm only have Macbook Pro M1 for UE5 dev, though it is not supported well like PC.

[lapis pilot]

Run 1 stick...if she boots Reset bios

[mighty cosmos]

Considering also hard pads or no?

[fallen oasis]

I have a 60cm long thin material/rubber mat and never had issues.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07SRHWMC3/

[mighty cosmos]

If you want a durable, fast hard pad I've been using Glorious Elemental Air for a few years and I love it

But it has very little friction so depends if that's what you want

[median marsh]

maybe look for cup coaster 😄

[fresh fog]

get one with some wrist support. much more comfy

im so used to mine. ive been looking at a desk sized mouse pad, because the downside of such a mousepad is i dont have much range of motion with the mouse. which is really annoying when playign games on low dpi :P.

great for staying comfy while developing, not so much so for playing games

mine feels too tall, but i think thats just because the cylinder in my chair has gone kaput and it means I'm quite low down. I'm sure with an actually working chair it would be fine.
I guess it's never bothered me that much because it's the only style of mousepad i have ever used.

oh swet, i didn't know you could get the soft bit separate for desk sized mouse pads!
seems they come with one for a keyboard too which is nice. My keyboard came with one, but it's that really weird, horrible rubberized plastic. Corsair must have a chief of bad designs

Tbf my issue was probably buying a corsair keyboard

It's nice but the keycaps are so weak

already had 3 break on me

[fallen oasis]

How do you break keycaps?

And why aren't you using the k120 like a boss?

[fresh fog]

the bit where the stem of the switch goes in really likes to just spontaneously snap in half making it useless

so brittle

ooh the k95 does look nice

[gusty thistle]

I love my desk sized mousepad highly reccommend one

[fresh fog]

got the strafe rgb mk 2 at the moment.
aside from the keycap issue it's nice, but it is quite big. been looking at a smaller 65% - 70% keyboard with separate mousepad.

[gusty thistle]

Low sensitivity in games so a lot lol

[fresh fog]

for me in shooters quite far, because i play low sensitivity and low dpi. its not much of an issue for doing general purpose things but for accuracy in some games you need quite a wide range of motion

[gusty thistle]

I play fortnite like 24/7 on low sens so I get a full arm workout

[fresh fog]

I used to play CS:GO a fair bit so that's where mine came from. Haven't really since but the habit stuck

[fallen oasis]

And that's why you've got a single muscly arm.

[gusty thistle]

Rate the mousepad

[fresh fog]

-5/10

[gusty thistle]

going to pretend thats a 10/10

[fresh fog]

smart move ngl

[gusty thistle]

the desk is glass

(it has lights in it that arent on)

[fresh fog]

aren't all desks textured. never seen the world grid material on a desk :P

I just like the funky patterns and designs like these

that topographical map one is 🔥

[gusty thistle]

I still think you get a Fortnite one tbh

[fresh fog]

lol i think i actually found yours

[gusty thistle]

got it for cheaper lol 😆

[fresh fog]

damnnnnnn

[gusty thistle]

about $5 (aud)

[fresh fog]

impressive. did it take 3 and a half years to ship or something

[gusty thistle]

~6 days from china

[fresh fog]

painting by numbers desk

[fresh fog]

not bad at all

[gusty thistle]

was very suprised as most of my stuff from china takes over a week

[fresh fog]

why are there so many nsfw mousepad designs. what is wrong with people. why does this market exist 😭

just be normal and get a funky pattern

or fortniite

now this is a pretty cool one

there's so many good ones. i can only pick one :(

although i do need a new chair

anyone got any good reccomendations for a good chair that's comfy to sit on for like 6 hours at a time

[gusty thistle]

Get a high end office chair theyre designed well for sitting

[gusty thistle]

I was going to say what do these people do when people come over but I realised something

[fresh fog]

yep i was about to say the same thing

damn a lot of these office chairs are pricey. How the hell can a chair cost £800 let alone £10000

[gusty thistle]

Look online for surplus stores near you

You can find good office stuff for really cheap

[fresh fog]

i will admit that 10k one looks insanely comfortable

[fresh fog]

oh wow they're all 1+ hour away form me

damn

guess im in for a drive :P

[gusty thistle]

Check if they have online stock

[fresh fog]

might just have to get another not-too-expensive one from amazon and complain it's no good again in 3 years

[gusty thistle]

The cycle continues

[fresh fog]

it's a vicious one

[undone crystal]

Does anyone here have any experience with using eyetracking hardware to control your mouse, rather than using your hands?

[arctic sluice]

lmaooooo 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[mighty cosmos]

I've used soft mouse pads for a long time and ended up replacing them every few months because the surface finish gets damaged and has a lot more friction (or at least enough for me to notice and annoy the crap out of me)
Until a few years ago I tried this hard pad and it's the best one I had yet, and been using the same one for a couple of years now

But you need ceramic mouse skates instead of the regular PTFE ones, they get destroyed within a week
(Plus ceramic one provide even less friction so in a combo with a hard mouse pad it's pretty much perfect if you prefer low friction)

https://www.gloriousgaming.com/products/glorious-element-mouse-pad-air

[median marsh]

meanwhile i'm using my table as mouse pad for over 10 years

[mighty cosmos]

lol

[median marsh]

best thing is that there's no boundaries

[mighty cosmos]

I'm very picky when it comes to mice and mouse pads
I like to play competitively and if the surface has inconsistent friction (which is often the case with used soft pads) it annoys the living crap out of me lol

[median marsh]

ok, idc much about gaming or my actual "skills"

also it wont work for every table, this is a cheap one with veneer(?) finishing

so it's not too rough or glossy

[fresh fog]

that ice one confuses my greatly. what is glass infused cloth and why does it exist

and how is it beneficial

[mighty cosmos]

It's a normal pad with tiny glass beads infused into the surface
So you get flexibility of a normal one with surface friction close to a hard pad

Tho I haven't tried that one, only one I tried is Air

[fresh fog]

that sounds super weird

i'd be super tempted too if they made a desk sized

see the above conversation about my funky pattern obsession :P

[median marsh]

glass in cloth... what could go wr..cough..ong

[fresh fog]

in fairness it does explain what element results in what change to the surface

[median marsh]

is fire the heat from the surface friction?

[mighty cosmos]

Apparently the Ice one is pretty good if you want a hybrid
The Air one, if you want a really good hard pad might be one of the best low friction hard pads there are
I'm loving mine

[fresh fog]

yes 🔥

admittedly you do have to scroll down too far

Ben Shneiderman wants words

[fresh fog]

i've never even heard of hard mouse pads. at that point though, why not just use your desk. they tend to be pretty smooth

[median marsh]

$25 for a rubber mat

damn

[mighty cosmos]

I mean.... I don't know how else would you describe a hard pad 😅

It's straight to the point as it gets lol

[mighty cosmos]

Desk generally isn't a good surface for a mouse pad, friction is going to be irregular and not to mention the micro pattern on the surface plays a massive role with an optical mice sensors (less with laser ones), and if you have a high end mouse it's gonna be optical

Optical will be way less precise on a desk, and almost unusable on a glass surface
Mouse pads (at least quality ones) have optimized surface pattern specifically for the sensor to pick up

[mighty cosmos]

Not many people prefer hard pads, you will generally only find them among competitive players, esports, etc...
But even then they are in minority

If you've been fine with a soft pad, you won't like a hard pad
If the surface friction of a soft pad annoys you often then hard pad might be for you

[fresh fog]

oh yeah definitely not for me then. i've never really noticed friction being that bad even in competitive games.
although the ice pad is interesting

[fresh fog]

oh wow. i guess i've never noticed because i only use my mouse on my desk rarely, and it's never for games

the only thing that bugs me about my mouse is the wire is kinked from when it was packaged, and the bends in it consistently catch on my monitor causing resistance and drift

[mighty cosmos]

Yeah, when I'm getting a mouse I'm looking for ones with a soft braided cable

Exactly for that reason pretty much

[fresh fog]

side note: do you know of anyway to dekink the cord, or am i going to have to buy a new mouse even though this one is 2 weeks old

[mighty cosmos]

I don't 😅
Tho I feel like there must be some way lol

[median marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tape-gif-8649163

[fresh fog]

this can't be the normal way of using it 😭
i refuse to believe that im not missing something obvious

[mighty cosmos]

Get a mouse bungee

This thing

[median marsh]

or let the mouse hang of the desk if the problematic part is close enough, weight and time might bend it back to it's "natural form"

[fresh fog]

welp thats it. on payday im buying a two arm vesa mount and a mouse bungee :P

im fed up of my monitor taking up so much damn space on the desk

[fallen oasis]

Mouse bungies are great.

But why pay $15 for one?

That's $3 for the bungie, $12 for the name!

[frigid heath]

i have my mouse wire go over my monitor stand

its basically the same

[fresh fog]

I'll have to take a look, thank you :D

[fresh fog]

input lag 🤮

[frigid heath]

i tend to misplace stuff that isnt wired down

they fall on the ground and i step on em

i have a drakonia

[fresh fog]

my mouse is a corsair harpoon rgb pro

[frigid heath]

i heared batteries last longer now.. but yea

[fresh fog]

never let me down yet

on my second one because the rubber on it wore out

[frigid heath]

the bottom on this thing stays clean... its amazing

[mighty cosmos]

I hate charging it

[frigid heath]

i have no idea why... i had to clean my other mouse all the time

i have extra weights in my mouse for some reason

[fresh fog]

use google glass as your monitor 🧠

[frigid heath]

just removed the rest of my weights.. its awwsome

https://tenor.com/view/rock-lee-weights-naruto-chunin-exams-flex-gif-26433140

fastest hand in the west

yes

it is me doin unreal stuff.. you can see the logo on the screen

[frigid heath]

its my grandmothers gaming chair\

like for real

prolly 100 years old... hand crafted 1 of a kind

its the legendary gaming chair

[plush turret]

has a $13 logitec mouse and is happy with it

[frigid heath]

mine was like 20$

ive had a few cheap mice but i basically tossed em after a day

[fresh fog]

yeah mine was about £20 too

can't fault it

never understood the hype of a super expensive heavy mouse with 1,000,001 macro buttons

[frigid heath]

some mice block up when you hold more than 6 buttons

[fallen oasis]

Some mice don't have more than 6 buttons. These are the good mice.

[fresh fog]

mines got 4, well 5 if you count middle click

left, right, and a forward and back on the side

[fallen oasis]

Mine has 6 if you count teh dpi switch.

[fresh fog]

oh mine does too then :P

[plush turret]

i like my cheap wireless mice, i can get 6 batteries for like $1

cheap as hell to keep running and stick them in a drawer of my desk, unless your stupid you know when the bat is near dead

[livid lance]

Would Nvidia rtx 4070 to be good for a pc to run ue5? Or would it be worth it to spend more?

On the gpu

[forest hound]

Does Nitro N5-640 have a heatsink? I can't find info on it

[fresh fog]

its a prebuilt computer. it can't not have a cooler

[forest hound]

So I should get a heatsink with my Seagate FireCuda 520 ZP2000GV3A012 2TB?

[fresh fog]

FWIW that pc is quite bad and overpriced for the things you want to do

8GB RAM is not even enough to play games let alone make them, and videos

[forest hound]

?? I don't have 8gb of ram

[fresh fog]

you upgraded your ram?

because the system you listed only comes with 8

[forest hound]

I got I5-12400F, 3060 "12GB", 16GB RAM, 512GB Kingston SSD

Why do I always buy a PC that I can't find anywhere?

https://www.acer.com/us-en/support?search=21500004218;DG.E2VEQ.00Y;N50-640&filter=productdetails

[fresh fog]

ah my bad

i love it when they put wildly different specs under the same product name

really helpful acer, thank you

I can't see a picture of the motherboard so assume no ssd heatsink and buy one imo

[forest hound]

There's a fan that apparently wasn't included in the picture

It's about on the GPU fan height and on the left side

Not sure is that a GPU fan

[fresh fog]

yeah that definitely doesnt have a heatsink for an ssd

[forest hound]

But I got 1 fan above the GPU and one on the left side of the image that's a bit bigger

Also do you see a slot for an M.2 SSD there?

[fresh fog]

i cannot, although i think i see one plugged in

[forest hound]

Where?

[fresh fog]

just below the cpu cooler looks like an m.2 drive

but apparantly you have 3 slots, so it will just be taking out the gpu and looking for another slot

i think i spy one actually

that looks like an m.2 port

[forest hound]

Also sorry if I'm a bit clueless but if the I/O expansions say I have 1 PCI Express slot so does that mean I have 1 used or 1 available for expansion?

[fresh fog]

yep it is

its got the standoff slot for it

you'll also want to order an m.2 standoff, because that doesnt have one in there, and you can risk damage to it without one

[forest hound]

The black thing?

[fresh fog]

the black thing with the little screwhole above it a little bit

[forest hound]

Tf is tjat

Standoff

[fresh fog]

basically a piece of metal that you screw in to stick up off the motherboard

makes sure your ssd will be level rather than bent down

one of these, should only be a couple of euros

[forest hound]

Oh so not bad

Is this a ram slot?

I'm running out of ram on 16gb when using UE5 so I gotta use page file

[fresh fog]

both your ram slots are full, but yes, thats them

a standoff basically means your ssd lies like this

[forest hound]

Wdym both? That isn't full

[forest hound]

Ohh

So that's what the hole is for?

[fresh fog]

yes

[forest hound]

I don't get how you don't lose your mind explaining everything to me 💀

[fresh fog]

there are two slots therer and both of them have sticks of ram in

[forest hound]

I thought I put it in the middle

[fresh fog]

youll find with prebuilt they only give you 2 ram slots to save money

[fresh fog]

no

[forest hound]

I'm stupid

Also what do you think about Apex 9 TKL?

[fresh fog]

its certainly a keyboard of all time

seems a bit overpriced for what you're getting

but it wont be a bad keyboard

[forest hound]

It's a keyboard that exists

[fresh fog]

ah thats why it's expensive, its aluminium top plate

[forest hound]

What about Wooting 60HE?

[fresh fog]

again, tis definitely a keyboard

tbh most of it comes down to personal preference

[forest hound]

I want a fast keyboard that's TKL or 60% with FN keys

[fresh fog]

you'll get some enthusiasts that will be like "wow you use [insert certain switch], hope you enjoy mush" or people like "I would never use an ABS plastic case 🤮"

but it doesnt actually matter, its all preference

[forest hound]

I don't care much about the sound just the speed and usability

I can have TKL for the f keys and a separate numpad for mod menus

[spice girder]

take a look at the Keychron V or Q series they could have something for you

[forest hound]

I need a nordic keyboard tho

[spice girder]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keychron-nordic-iso-keyboards/products/keychron-v3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection

Here, but could take a bit to get to you.

[forest hound]

Still slower than Apex 9 TKL

[frank glade]

How can you tell?

[forest hound]

Actually the specifications tell how fast they are 🤓☝️

[normal cairn]

I'm a bit curious what attribute you are using as a measurement of "speed" (whatever that means in the context of a keyboard)

[normal cairn]

[fallen oasis]

Maybe the polling rate?!

[normal cairn]

that one Zeltig linked had a 1000hz. Why would you need a keyboard higher than that? Sending input every millisecond seems more than enough.

[frank glade]

not for Gamers™

[fallen oasis]

That's all about the power to weight ratio.

[obtuse rapids]

@iron zenith You weren't around at the time but guess who had the illustrious honor of troubleshooting a faulty memory controller in a 13900k

I'm sure intel gives every valid RMA an option to get a wire transfer refund but I like to think I'm special

[frigid heath]

its usually the dropshipper where u buy it that does that

i never buy parts from nvdia/amd/intel/ whater site

[hollow pike]

Do I need to make a significant upgrade to my system to use UE5 comfortably? I currently have a Ryzen 7 2700, 32gb ddr4 and a gtx 1080

[obtuse rapids]

Not sure, it has been awhile since I had to RMA anything but I can't recall them being willing to give back MONEY

[frigid heath]

just try it out, for most things no

[hollow pike]

Compilation times seem to be pretty horrendous but that's a given I suppose.

[frigid heath]

in the UE I think they have too... i dont rma a lot and usually get a replacement from same place\

[frigid heath]

yea if you compile the whole engine it takes a while.. if u dont change some parts its done in a sec

[hollow pike]

Hmmm maybe I need to learn more about that then. Compilation and shaders/lighting are killing my enthusiasm for it. I'm so used to the other side haha

[frigid heath]

well BPs compile in an instant

heavy shaders take a bit... but if you use variables you often dont have to change em often

you can set light to dynamic and it wont have to build and change it it static when u think its good

[hollow pike]

Will try those steps to see if things improve. I agree about BPs but I guess that means no C++ for me, the live coding doesn't seem to be working very well

[frigid heath]

you need to have unreal un solid state that changes a lot for c++ compile

if you make a c++ plugin to add BP functions compile time shouldnt be too bad

[tacit pollen]

anybody ever had this issue?

it's like it's ignoring my 80GB pagefile

why is it trying to access D: anyway? I don't even have a page file there, nor the installation of UE5.

[hollow pike]

I'm using an SSD but the performance is terrible still, turned off everything I can think of and I can't work out why but dropped frames and generally bad performance. I might take another look another day

[obtuse rapids]

Does anyone here use Display Fusion - I love it but I swear it's glitching the editor sometimes

[plush turret]

looks at 80% of my steam library cant wait to get that desktop
this laptop has issues playing minecraft
dates it doesnt it

[wild hill]

Is these two i5 13600KF + RTX-4070 FE combination are good?

[forest hound]

I bought Apex 9 Mini

[frank glade]

Idk it looks kinda slow

[forest hound]

Bruh

I assume that's sarcasm but it got 0.2ms response time, zero debounce time, 1-1.5mm actuation point, 35g actuation force

[frank glade]

At least it's not one of those lame split keyboards

[uneven folio]

I've been getting a lot of those D3D crashes lately, so I found MSI afterburner to see what the issue was. I followed this tutorial down below, but I'm not sure what to set the Voltage to in the Curve Editor anyone know?

I didn't change the curves yet

The button on the right towards the middle?

Got it

[forest hound]

fR

[forest hound]

You got studio drivers installed??

[uneven folio]

Yup just did that today in fact.

[uneven folio]

Did a clean install of the GPU Driver specifically for the 40 series.

[forest hound]

That's weird I'm using afterburner and got no issues

Studio drivers fixed the crashes for me tho, also I got more fps lol

[uneven folio]

I installed Studio after I got the D3D error.

So I'm not entirely sure if it fixed the issue just yet really.

[fallen oasis]

Clearly you haven't seen TikTok!

(I can't stress how sarcastic I'm being there)

[proud galleon]

So I'm looking to develop semi open world maps no bigger the size of a MHRISE map what's specs should I have I assume 32gb ram

[median marsh]

size doesn't matter

[proud galleon]

Specify

[median marsh]

you got to specify

what you gonna fill the map with

[proud galleon]

Interesting didn't know that

[median marsh]

it's like blowing up a balloon

the rubber amount is still the same

no matter the size

[proud galleon]

I plan to just fill it with basic enemies you know BOTW like

[median marsh]

are you okay?

MHRISE and BOTW sounds like you got a stroke

you cant just assume that everyone here knows every game....

[proud galleon]

Well they are extremely popular when I say BOTW about everyone I talk to know s regardless I mean Legend of Zelda Breath of the wild

[frank glade]

never heard of it

[proud galleon]

Except on a much smaller scale I'm not to ambitious

Probably just because I'm from a gaming background

[zinc ingot]

Hey all! Can I send a link here with some PC components, and can some tech experts tell me please if this build is ok, or what should be changed in it? I can send it in private too.

[fallen oasis]

Yeah, that's not going to work. We aren't you.

use http://www.pcpartpicker.com

[zinc ingot]

Sry I don`t know why this is not public, I set it to share to public, still not working 😦 I try it with your weblink, moment.

[fallen oasis]

It's a really good site.

It may even tell you where you can buy the parts teh cheapest in your country.

[zinc ingot]

Yes nice site thanks. Just it took me some time to find every pice and add them one by one.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yrcnmr

I am not good with PC tech, can you recommend me please a good 240 Hz monitor for 1440p gaming? This set I`ll be using for 1440p gaming mostly. I have old pc win 7 and geforce 750 Ti.

[fallen oasis]

Does it need to be 240Hz?

The chance of you running a game that benefits from it is extremely small.

[zinc ingot]

Yes 240 Hz, maybe for some multiplayer titles.

And mostly for single palyer games.

[fallen oasis]

It makes even less sense in single player games.

[zinc ingot]

PSU wise, maybe a 850 W Psu will be enough? No need for an 1000 w psu?

[fallen oasis]

240Hz is like pro gamer territory.

850W will power just about everything, unless you're running a threadripper and 4090.

Or double graphics cards etc

[zinc ingot]

what is threadripper?

[fallen oasis]

I think that website also gives you power requirement, doesn't it?

[zinc ingot]

yes on top upper right corner

[fallen oasis]

Threadripper is the ridiculous-core-count AMD cpus. They take like 300Ws just by themselves.

Normal high tier cpu is closer to 150W?

[zinc ingot]

Oh, no, just the stuff I sent through that site - these will be in that build.

[zinc ingot]

I don`t understand your question sorry.

I updated the build, forgot to add the Blu-Ray reader/writer:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brqznt

[fallen oasis]

If you're spending that much, get 64gb of ram.

[zinc ingot]

How can I know if the Case is enough for all these stuff?

[wind egret]

Estimated Wattage: 760W
29W from the RAM... 👀

[fallen oasis]

You don't want a midi tower for a 4090. You want a full tower.

You may want a different hsf too. Seems it might not be compatible.

[zinc ingot]

What is hsf?

[wind egret]

HDD cage (in height of graphics card) installed (mm) 280
HDD cage (in height of graphics card) removed (mm) 425
From Bequiet
It will fit, losing one or two of the HDD cages.
It comes with one (of two possible) front 140mm fan and one back 120mm fan.
No support for bottom fans. Sounds warm.

[zinc ingot]

Can I put in this case the blu-ray reader? Or the Gpu won`t allow it? Thx for detailed information. I am checking it on the site too, but I am a total noob for these. I like this case so much, I dont want a bigger one, or other one 😦

[wind egret]

The case has drive bays on the top. Completely different location from the HDD cages.

[fallen oasis]

Heatsink and fan.

[wind egret]

Max.construction height of CPU cooler unit (mm) 165

Although it supports up to a 360mm radiator on the top.

[zinc ingot]

You mean the 2x SSD and the heatsink thingies on them wont fit correctly in the case, other components might be blocking them? Or might block each other? This is really hard to see and tell virtually just by specs , right? I mean to tell, if no components will be blocking each other.

The Inno3D X3 OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 If I readed it good, its just 2 Slots , and it fits into midi towers.

[fallen oasis]

You shouldn't have a problem with the ssds, tehy screw directly on to your motherboard.

[zinc ingot]

My bad, I mixed them up with the Rams.

Thanks for the help everyone. I might have some more stupid questions later, if you dont mind it, or I can ask in private DM not to annoy others here on this channel much.

What monitor should I buy with this build? Only 27'' monitor I want to buy, and a 1440p monitor. Mostly for single player games, and some multiplayer games. Around 240 Hz, not more. What do u recommend to buy? If lower Hz monitor, can you write down, if it`s enough? Like a 170 Hz monitor. Thanks!

And should I change the PSU to a 850 W model?

[wind egret]

Not with a 4090. <_<

[zinc ingot]

Like I write above, I have an ancient PC, win 7 and geforce 750 Ti, so I want a new one, for long years. Nothing is working on win 7 by now. This 4090 looks like a best. I don`t really want to spend this much money for a new Pc, but my current pc is obselete. Old. So I have to buy a new pc. I was thinking about to buy an Rtx 4070 Ti 12 GB Vram, is that viable for 1440p gaming? Future proof for how many years? Noone knows that I think, how technology will evolve, right?

What about this PC? For 1440p gaming it`s enough?
https://www.alza.sk/EN/alza-battlebox-raptor-i7-rtx4070ti-d7740168.htm
Your opinions?

[frigid heath]

i dont do futureproof, i buy a new pc more often

i go like 1500$ max usually around 1k... but your budget might be diffrent

get a new1 about every 2 years

[zinc ingot]

I am saving for a new PC for a long time now.

[frigid heath]

yea... and now you can find a pc faster than yours in a dumpster

congrats, free upgrade

[zinc ingot]

Just I can`t decide what gpu to buy, what pc for 1440p gaming.

Because I am not a tech expert or pc maniac hehe... 🙂

[frigid heath]

well really doesnt matter much... get something top rated in ur price class

you generally get what u pay for when u buy new

if you buy a 600$ card now its like 10 times faster than ur 750ti... if you spend 1200 its 10.5 times faster

pulled these numbers from my ass but i bet they are pretty close

[zinc ingot]

Probably. I cant tell.

[frigid heath]

if you go 1440p 144hz you prolly cant max all settings in some games anyways

doesnt matter how much you spend you allways have to turn some settings down to hit over 144

[zinc ingot]

You mean with the build I just sent , the rtx 4070 Ti PC?

[frigid heath]

yeqa pretty much any setup

[zinc ingot]

https://www.alza.sk/EN/alza-battlebox-raptor-i7-rtx4070ti-d7740168.htm

This PC build, your opinions please?

Or anyone else, please...thx!

[frigid heath]

.sk is where?

[zinc ingot]

Slovakia. The page is in english? Maybe its bugged.

[frigid heath]

prices are just diffrent in countries

so it might be a good deal in slovakia but not here or other way around

i guess it looks decent, id go for 2 slots of 16gig ram, and id need extra drive space, doesnt have to be SSD

didnt look at the brands of gpu/mobo or any of that or what the premium is for pre build pc... thats often not that high overhere

[zinc ingot]

Roger that, thanks for infos.

[frigid heath]

yea im a bit out of pc hardware for a while so i dont know what the max perf money setup is atm 😛

also that depends on the case