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tawdry drum
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Well - I have someone on my team using a 970. Takes a tad longer to do some things. But we are also doing low-poly and not giant levels. So there is that.

hybrid pendant
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I see

arctic sluice
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from what i see in this channel. it seems that gpus' vram is more important than its actual speed

north arch
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primarily for compiling shaders

north arch
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hrm, I recall incorrectly

narrow berry
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Lol, I almost fell for this....It's getting to where you have to really pay attention on Amazon, these Fake Product Sale Pages are getting really bad

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I ordered it, but then canceled it pretty much immediately after.

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4-7 TBs is about as big as they get for External SSDs

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HDDs come in that size but their about 3x that price

north arch
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it'd report as 16TB but that's firmware trickery, it'd fail for anything over what the chips support

narrow berry
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all the reviews for the product are about a Calendar

north arch
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ew, report

narrow berry
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Yeah I did

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And the location...one second lol this is funny

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They should really have some kind of Rigorous screening process for anyone in China trying to sell stuff on Amazon....seems 99% of them are all scammers

north arch
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man... not even putting in the white house or fbi training center at quantico addresses

narrow berry
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I can't believe I nearly fell for that...I got to start paying attention

north arch
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I used to do that on IRC, people would say they'll hack me, what's my IP address

north arch
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yep

turbid galleon
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Yep

narrow berry
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Not sure but I wonder if the reason they are abundant over in Sweden and no where to be found in the US is maybe a result of Nvidia playing the market.

elder stump
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Not sure if this is the right channel, but I figured I'd try: Dear all, our team is currently in a end-of-the-year financial crunch, thus I need to sell off our XSENS suit and manus gloves. It was just used twice and is in perfect condition, also comes with the full pro software licence for a year. Willing to sell for a little lower than we bought (16.500โ‚ฌ) it and include our Live Link Face helmet as well as a fully developed documented unreal pipeline... If you're interested please drop me a DM! In our opinion still the best way for medium-budget mocap.

frank glade
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any disadvantages if pairing a 13700kf with a b660 board?

karmic trout
fringe sonnet
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and a rtx 3090 on it

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what you guys think?

frank glade
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I think you need 64gb for unreal to be safe, 850W psu for 3090 (or 4090) and at least 2tb of storage

fringe sonnet
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there is the 2700 euro money issue ;/

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it took me 3 years to get to that money xD

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and a broken computer haha

frank glade
fringe sonnet
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hmmm

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yes stil expensive

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the 6700 rx is kinda the same like the 3060 ti

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but then the 6700 can do some nice co,puting for compiling stuff

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i aint gone make valey of the ancient xD

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what is cuda?

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i check on google to

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hmm i use blender and ue5

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okay

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i have a laptop that has good stuff for blender so forget blender :p

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can you make the final desision for me ? ๐Ÿ˜„

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6700 rx 12gb or rtx 3060 12gig?

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i do screenshot second i have to put out the website thingu

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noo on co,puter :p

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its good stuf xD

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ooow

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i ment a laptop with gtx 950m

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for blender xD

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my crashed computer had an gtx 1080

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and it was fine

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xD

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so what do you think is good for unreal engine?

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1440 p

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๐Ÿ˜„

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thank you

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litteraly my hands are shaking guess this is my final choice of pressing the buy button

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afer couple of days looking and learning and seeing whats best that soots me

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ue5 dont use the ventor right ?

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ow its vs the 3060 ti 12gig

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i hate exernal plugins xD

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ow

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lol xD

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no ti is to expensive :p

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thanks

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its going to be that then

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6700 xt

frank glade
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Have you thought about getting the arc 770 16gb? ๐Ÿ˜†

fringe sonnet
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got it !

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yeah indeed

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i actually dont want to buy it

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just thinking about the overheat

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o thanks for saying that

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then i beter get a 70 euro more case for the ventilation?

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sory for the screenshots :p

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its this one

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water cooled

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and lots of wind presure

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its a new thingy

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atm i have nothing xD

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yups

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this is what i got the ram is going to be different

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ram is going higher

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what ive got to buy when im ready

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can you specify please? its hard to understand what you mean

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yes i really want that overkill xD

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eco mode is nice to know

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so actually

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this is nice ?

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and i better get a big tower so i can get more fans ?

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hmm okay

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got anything in mind ?

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weeelll

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i was thinking of this

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i can bumb the price for 50 euro up

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nice thanks

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so il be needing 1000wat?

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850 ? ๐Ÿ˜„

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got it !

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yes ! ๐Ÿ˜„

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thank you laura; i finely got my computer ready to buy

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this are the specs

fringe sonnet
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lol but you were right the most of the times haha xD

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i dont know yet

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im searching for another case to put in the deepcool lt720 but i dont know wich case can hold the deepcool lt720

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haha

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it looks nice and very good so i want it :p

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for the nice ? or for the cpu ?

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ow, why would you not buy it? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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ow yes that true

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the radiator has an safety for that

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yes

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i have the atx

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i just cant find if this fits for me

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hmmm

frank glade
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I know a good case for a 360 aio, asus ap201...but you'll have to go matx

fringe sonnet
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its all already made for an atx xD

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dam i hate dust xD

frank glade
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I have a similar meshed case but it's not that bad

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There's also fractal design pop silent

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I think windowed cases are the worst ๐Ÿ˜…

fringe sonnet
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yeah

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i dont need the light pushing in my eye while im doing some code

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oh thats nice

devout pendant
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my laptop seems to support 12GB of RAM. Is an extra 4GB going to be a huge difference from 8GB?

devout pendant
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4GB soldered and two slots, with one with another 4GB

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DDR3 800

devout pendant
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Commited shows / 11 GB

blazing shard
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My day job is in a datacenter and I always get bummed I don't get a chance to play around with some of the hardware, got dozens of RTX A4000s in today and loaded up a server with 700+ gb of ram.

cinder latch
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think i might need a bit more

fallen oasis
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It's fun seeing the graph that high when you have 128gb.

devout pendant
cinder latch
devout pendant
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How can you have 16GB and use 43GB?

median marsh
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pagefile

kind shore
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Is 64GB of RAM enough to ensure that my compiling can use all my 16 cores ?
Currently, with 32GB, i was limited to 11 cores, but i also have things open like Discord, Firefox and obv the IDE which took a good about of my RAM

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I might have the option to upgrade my RAM amount to 48GB without paying money, that's why i'm wondering if i should rather buy more

fallen oasis
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Yes it is.

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You can remove the memory per core limit without upgrading your memory.

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Doesn't guarantee you won't run out of memory, though.

kind shore
fallen oasis
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Yes. Or set it to 0 to remove it entirely.

kind shore
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I see, would it have any performance impact if i set it to e.g. 0,5GB ?

fallen oasis
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It doesn't limit the memory used by each process.

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It only limits the total number of processes it starts based on your free memory.

kind shore
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So i guess the worst case would be that it will crash once it wants more RAM while it can't be provided, or ?

fallen oasis
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Not sure what it would do.

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Probably not crash.

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Just slow down.

kind shore
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Alright, would give it a try.
Where can i find this setting tho ? ๐Ÿ˜…

fallen oasis
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BuildConfiguration.xml

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<Configuration xmlns="https://www.unrealengine.com/BuildConfiguration">
    <ParallelExecutor>
        <MemoryPerActionBytes>0</MemoryPerActionBytes>
    </ParallelExecutor>
</Configuration>
lethal geode
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Hey guys, about a week ago I was talking about my laptop screen randomly flickering. Someone told me to open it up and clean the graphics card. So I opened it here, and under the battery I think I found the gc. It doesnโ€™t seem dirty, so what do I do?

west quail
lethal geode
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Itโ€™s a gaming laptop it should

west quail
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Do you know what the graphics card is called

lethal geode
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On the windows settings and nvidia settings it says I have a GTX 1050

west quail
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Hmm idk

lethal geode
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Like Iโ€™m getting tired of this screen bro

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Iโ€™ve done everything

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It isnโ€™t started randomly a few months ago

frigid heath
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i think the gpu is top left

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under the fan

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but i dont fix laptops anymore

fringe sonnet
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i finely got it !

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๐Ÿ˜„

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the case is going to be fractal meshify 2

fringe sonnet
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o thats nice, the .5 TB is for the windows 11 only

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i dont like other programs on the windows thingy thats to messy for my head xD

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oh thats pretty awsome thanks i look that one up

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o thanks !

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yes indeed

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yeah i better do a 2 tb then

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yeah

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indeed

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i like the seagate m2s

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they are pretty fast

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what are yourr

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what are your spesc laura ?

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thats cool its better then samsung and price quality

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maybe i am going for that one

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mean either

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me either

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before i knew al this i though samsung is OP

mighty cosmos
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I'm sticking to Samsung considering I never had anything fail from them

fringe sonnet
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i had 2 crashes with it thats why xD

median marsh
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+1 more slot for future upgrades available

fringe sonnet
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lol yeah

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and bad people making new computers use them here in belgium

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btw

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better ddr5 2X32 gig 6000 instead of ddr5 4X16 4800 ?

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nice

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oh and on last thing ๐Ÿ˜„

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upgrade stuff

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yups

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nice then my 4 day no sleep learning is right haha

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also one more thing

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then i gone press the buy button

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if i buy the stuff this stuff

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yeah xD

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do i need to buy cables to then ?

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i dont know xD

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to hook up every hardware xD

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yes forgot that one haha

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nice

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i have again one problem i think

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yes the last one ๐Ÿ˜„

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this one has 9 fans in it already

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yeah x

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xD

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and i think this one doesnt support the 9 fans + the cooler block on the ryzen

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what do you think ?

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ooow okay im gone look that up

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yeah i personally hate the light

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rather change it to something not light xD

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sel the fans on ebay or something xD

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ow cool

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so actually a 70 euro box is good enough ?

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if its cold im happy xD

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lol i love that guy ๐Ÿ˜„

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i always call him bro

median marsh
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have you replaced the SSDs by now....? also prepare to need a smol screwdriver to mount the SSD, since i'm pretty sure that the screwdriver from the cooler will be too large

fringe sonnet
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im lucky lol

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the motherboard is a 8x8 pin and i almost bought a psu with 4x4 pin xD

median marsh
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well, i later noticed that he has that tool kit in the shopping list

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which should have a fitting screw driver

fringe sonnet
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how do i know ?

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if this fits?

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thanks !

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wow im finely done

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2742 euros

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with a toolkit set xD

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you never know when you need it xD

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thanks all for helping me searching and asking all of my questions

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and @iron zenith .... thank you ๐Ÿถ ๐Ÿคœ๐Ÿป

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yes

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i did

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if you want i can add you to show you the finished product

median marsh
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sure? the specs say 2x (4+4) connectors for mb and 2x for GPU

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somehow specs and picture don't add up

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i guess the RX6800 only needs 2 either ways

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so should be good regardless

slim flax
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Finally got my new 7950X + 3090 rig up and running, man this things fast!

inner delta
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Anyone wanna hear about my pc build

fallen oasis
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Not really.

agile lodge
bright tendon
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i9-13900k vs 7950x for Ue5?

frank glade
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I ordered a 13600k ๐Ÿ˜… single thread performance (which I need the most) is almost on par, saved a ton of money

bright tendon
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My main requirement is faster code compile

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well I mean which of the two is faster at code compilation

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I often wonder why doesn't the extra low power cores on i9 give it an advantage

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yes , and yet its a tie in most cases

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even on multicore stuff

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no no , the question is , why doesn't having 24 core show up as a huge advantage on multi core workload over 7950x with 16 cores

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funnily enough ,people say intel i9 is available for a cheaper price than 7950x , but somehow where I live they are both at almost exactly the same price

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yeah , my current rig is so old that I need to build from scratch

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what if I do ?

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coz of the CPU socket

bright tendon
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wait

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5200hz is the max ram speed for 7950x?

bright tendon
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but will you ever need that 128 gig/

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more like how soon

fallen oasis
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Heh

bright tendon
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what you got?

fallen oasis
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I may need to replace my CPU before then. Single thread performance isn't the best. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

bright tendon
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so you use unreal with integrated graphics?

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Hey I'm not judging , had the same when my GPU went for RMA

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heh, I'm still running my 7 Yo 6700k , still very good for most stuff but kinda showing its age during heavier workloads

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I think I'll settle on the following , already have a GPU and some other stuff so not everything is needed
https://pcbuilder.net/rigs/guL2YK/

PC Builder

This PC Builder rig is created using AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Processor, ASUS PRIME X670-P WIFI Motherboard, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler, NZXT H510 Elite Case, EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Graphics Card, Corsair CMK64GX5M2B5200C40 RAM, along with Samsung MZ-V8P2T0CW Storage, and Cooler Master V850 Power Supply.

bright tendon
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is it too much?

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"Compatibility: No issues or incompatibilities found."

cinder latch
fallen oasis
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Just take the side off. Best airflow.

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Also 7950X with a 2070?! Seems mismatched.

fallen oasis
bright tendon
fallen oasis
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Ah okay.

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I would go with an AIO watercooler for it tbh.

bright tendon
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what about

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deepcool ak620

fringe sonnet
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the nh-d15 is really good i saw some stuff online and asked some friends who use the cooler to

fringe sonnet
frank glade
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Im replacing my nh d15, it's just too massive for my mitx cases. Also could not even fit the 2nd fan in my latest build. Otherwise pretty good

fringe sonnet
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nice to hear hristew

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i want to put this on the chat xD

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if its not alawed pls tell me then i delete it again :p

bright tendon
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NH-D15 you people say, but would be enough to keep temps below thermal throttle at max speed with headroom for overclocking in future?

Is any air cooler even capable of that?

steep cairn
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sorry to ask a hardware driver question, I've been having issues with amd drivers, so i used DDU and let win11 install whatever it wanted

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the constant UE5 crashing has stopped, but well performance sucks

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has anyone else suffered from this

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please don't commend get nvidia

bright tendon
steep cairn
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well UE5.1 is now stable

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with amd drivers UE5.1 is not

bright tendon
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Which device you taking about?

steep cairn
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its just a radeon 6900xt

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so UE5.0 i could use the radeon WHQL driver, system was rock solid

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5.1 requires feature and i dutifully upgrade, however the UI of 5.1 triggers all sorts of weird UI issues,

steep cairn
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all in dx12 code

bright tendon
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Noted, never gonna buy amd gpu

fringe sonnet
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beter do w10 for performance

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me myself i want 11 but im stil choosing

steep cairn
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i have a feeling it is a win11 issue more than radeon

bright tendon
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Microsoft has a pattern of alternating bad and good windows

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Win10 was good , win 11 bad

steep cairn
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it wasn't exactly stable on my nvidia card either

bright tendon
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Win 12 will be good

fringe sonnet
steep cairn
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there should never have been win11

fringe sonnet
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win11 is good for what it is now but not for people like us

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let windows 11 fix theyr problems first :p

steep cairn
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win11 could well be the problem

fringe sonnet
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i was thinking the same; the GPu speed is insane high for the price

steep cairn
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i wish i had the time to switch to win 11

fringe sonnet
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you can do it free

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you got the watermark i though

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for les then 30 euro you can buy a licence

steep cairn
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its not a cost

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i used a win 7 key form an old laptop

fringe sonnet
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ow

steep cairn
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i think something is broken with my win11 install now, as i can't upgrade to 22h2

fringe sonnet
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thats weird

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i hope i dont get the same problem

steep cairn
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oh looking at my update history the following made my system unstable, windows 11 upgraded the amd drivers to their version and not amd's version

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ah new amd drivers came out, there is some driver bs going on

fringe sonnet
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when ue4 went to ue5 alot of other instances needed to update theyr crap, its kinda the same; whats needed to upgrade the hardware to w11

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it takes time

mighty cosmos
# steep cairn its just a radeon 6900xt

Use the optional drivers, they are the most up to date ones and ironically more stable than the "recommended" ones

I'm on optional and win11 without issues

devout pendant
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can I install more ram than the bios supports?

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4GB onboard and one slot. The maximum supported is 16GB but I can't remove the onboard ram

steep cairn
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hopefully now i won't get any weird errors when right click on UE5

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seems like it

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still got that weird error around passing in delegates by ref's to functions

steep cairn
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it must have been that driver from ms getting on the system, even the GPU load is lower now

median marsh
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nothing driver related as i even have that on linux

steep cairn
median marsh
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well, i digged a bit but couldn't find a solution yet

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if you spot where they introduced that issue, let me know ๐Ÿ˜„

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it was close before 5.1 release since i hadn't the problem when working with 5.1 branch before the latest commits

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just one thing, do you get that problem only on UMG blueprints or also on others? and does recompile also fix it for you until the next start of the editor?

steep cairn
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yes recompile in the editor makes it just go away, i will check now to see if it is just UMG

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it really looks like it widget based blueprints

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Widgets\Buttons\Button02\WB_Button02_Framed.uasset: [Compiler] Event of type Delegate doesn't match the property Event of type DelegateProperty from what i can tell, loads and loads

devout pendant
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what happens when there is 4GB onboard + 8GB? 8GB in dual channel + 4GB single channel? is there a priority?

flat glade
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it's time

steep cairn
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just FYI, its been some time now, and all my stability issues can be traced by to a driver from microsoft getting on the system first before installing official drivers from amd

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if you have a team red rig, DDU off the drivers, don't allow windows to install an amd driver from their update service (kill that network connection) and install clean amd drivers, good bye problems

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also my system is back to being a rocket

flat glade
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Ooh, I'll go straight to AMD then

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It's generally wise to go straight to the official source for all driver stuff

steep cairn
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you will have to get those default drivers off first, and make sure they don't sneak on when you boot back out of safe mode, i hadn't thought oh i am not actually installing a clean system

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so download the drivers first

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clean off the windows 11 approved microsoft drivers, then install the amd drivers

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do that and you get a stable system.

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it was driving me mad, i couldn't figure out what the issue was, over heating, no i have super cooling, bugs nope i tested on another non amd machine, errr i cleaned the drivers, but actually i hadn't

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sneaky windows update screwing me over

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rant over with, i am a happy bunny again

fringe sonnet
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im thinking of buying the 7700 and not the 7950

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its going to be a 1k difference in euros

fallen oasis
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Is that physical or logical cores?

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Logical would be a better display.

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I think the 7950X has all performance cores, the 13900k doesn't?

fringe sonnet
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so actually the 7700 is a no go ?

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yes i was thinking the same

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or i do intel on lower budget or i do a 7900 / 7950

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glad i stil have 25 days before i buy xD

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cant read anymore forums; articles and youtube content atm haha xD

frank glade
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I chose intel mid range because single thread performance is pretty great for the price

fringe sonnet
flat glade
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7950x is on

fallen oasis
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It's.. not done already? ๐Ÿ˜›

flat glade
fallen oasis
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Why are you building 6k actions instead of, say, the 3.5-4k that it takes to actually use the editor? ๐Ÿ™‚

flat glade
fallen oasis
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๐Ÿ˜›

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About 20m is a good time for that.

flat glade
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its done lol

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this is nuts

fallen oasis
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๐Ÿ˜„

flat glade
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the shaders are just as stupidly fast

fallen oasis
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It's fab, isn't it?!

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5k shaders? What? I blinked and now they're gone!

flat glade
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yeah, this makes engine changes go from scary to much less daunting

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before it was like "fuck, I hit space in actor.cpp, see you tomorrow"

fallen oasis
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Lol yeah

mighty cosmos
flat glade
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it took 4 hours minimum to get main compiled even in 4

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(8 threads)

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which could never really even be used due to the low ram ceiling

mighty cosmos
flat glade
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it's definitely a relief ๐Ÿ˜…

mighty cosmos
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How long did it take now, on my 5950x 5.1 took around 40m

flat glade
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20-30 minutes for win64 stuff only

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all default plugins

mighty cosmos
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Ok that's fast

flat glade
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I also have a very fast m.2 ssd and 64gb of ddr5 ram

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...surprisingly it doesn't need all of it

flat glade
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I was like "This guy must be lying, 30 minutes for the entire engine??!?"

mighty cosmos
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My ssd is crying for help

mighty cosmos
flat glade
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if you go that route

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also not all m.2 slots are born equal apparently

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mine is like... some are 5 and some are 4... something

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I'm just... putting the pegs in the slots the manual tells me lol

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without PCPartpicker I would be so screwed

mighty cosmos
flat glade
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most of the 2280 etc seems to be about the width of it

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for m.2 chips

mighty cosmos
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I'm curious if anyone is running the 7950x with 128gb of RAM, heard it's running at lower speeds, not sure how much it actually affects stuff

flat glade
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with ddr5 you want two slots taken only (according to rumour, not really certain)

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and 32gb is the highest single ram thingy I could get my hands on

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seems to work great so far though, no need to go higher that I can see

mighty cosmos
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Hm for my next upgrade would really like to go with 128gb

flat glade
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max 52% during the engine compile with rider open

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if you actually use more than 64gb I say go for it?

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it might be hitting my page file without me noticing?

mighty cosmos
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On my 5.1 build I was hitting it, going past 64gb, wonder if it's because of the slower ssd tho, more stuff in memory not written to the ssd

flat glade
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with editor open?

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I bet that hurts it a lot

mighty cosmos
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Compiling 5.1

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5.1

flat glade
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also I imagine Rider with multiple solution caches takes more

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I also turned off Rider ETW service

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which seems to be ONLY for C#

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so me no care...

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cool but I don't need it most days

mighty cosmos
flat glade
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huh, I wonder what the difference was

mighty cosmos
flat glade
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I wonder if the new UHT helps?

mighty cosmos
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I have a feeling slower ssd plays a role in my case

flat glade
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also this is like a fresh new windows install etc, so probably just overall cleaner in general compared to your average few year old install

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yeah, storage definitely could be the main decider

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SATA ssds are great but not these days compared to the big boy m.2s

mighty cosmos
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Yeah

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This is the screenshot from when it starts linking and the ssd gets maxed out, memory usage goes up quickly

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Compiling the project doesn't do that, just the engine

abstract hemlock
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Rate my set up

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(Cam quality bad)

devout pendant
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what happens when 4GB is soldered and I add 8GB? Do I lose dual channel or part of the RAM runs in single channel?

serene dome
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Specs?

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You can't just mix and match memory sticks and expect them to work

devout pendant
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i5 5200U

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laptop

serene dome
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Specs for the memory

devout pendant
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DDR3 800mhz

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pcs12800

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Leave it to people to ruin it for everyone else.

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It's better this way though

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Hopefully Bestbuy will follow Neweggs example on this

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Yeah that makes sense...I mean I've never personally returned a GPU to get my money back anyway. A Replacement maybe but not for my money back.

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Besides as you said the 4080 did get a lot of flack and bad reviews

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Yeah, for sure. If they all adopt this policy then at least the GPU shortages won't be quite as bad

serene dome
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There isn't a shortage anymore

narrow berry
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Yeah I kind of figured that

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I heard the recording about them basically saying they were going to manipulate the market

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I mean it makes since from a business perspective

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For sure

fallen oasis
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Just me that thinks this reads like an AI wrote it?

serene dome
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Seemed more like a transcript of what was said

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A source would be lovely though

opaque pond
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Is there a way to increase gpu memory allocation?

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Like to its available vram

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Hmmm

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I wish it was easier to handle

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but well i wanted to do it for the entire pc

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like it says that i got 512MB ram

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and i wanted to increase that

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to like 4gb

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what about 6-8?

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i meant for the gpu

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not overall system

frank glade
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At least 12 gb of vram

opaque pond
opaque pond
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It doesn't tho

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Hmm ok I will check it out

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5400u I think

frank glade
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I think my next gpu will be something like the pro w6800...32gb of vram..even not that expensive compared to gpu prices in the last year

frank glade
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Well they advertised very smooth performance for UE and 3dsmax...and it's "recommended" for Substance Painter and other programs...but sadly very rare reviews

inner dagger
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Hey how relevant is GPU for compile time? Does shader compilation get pushed to the GPU?

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I'm planning on getting an i7-13700KF with several M2 drives, I assume these should cover the main bottlenecks. I have a GTX 1080 which I'm hoping should be plenty as long as I'm not worried about runtime performance.

inner dagger
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That's interesting, what kind of cases do you find it useful for? Like in case of GPU failure?

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The multiple M2 drives is mostly for my own convenience, I'm just going to have one for Linux, one for Windows, and one for shared data.

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I see

fallen oasis
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I'd probably just whack in an old graphics card.

frank glade
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https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/north/north/ I hope the era of spaceship cases is finally over

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median marsh
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there's a black one, too. which looks kinda neat

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except for the top panel...

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could have been more decent, or behind a cover

frank glade
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Waiting for mitx version ๐Ÿ’Ž

north arch
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bespoke... they're using that word wrong

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that basically means customized or designed for a single particular customer

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You can't mass-produce and call it bespoke. Where's my lawer's number?

north arch
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technically, my first alienware laptop would count as it had a personalized nameplate

wet ore
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I wouldn't trust a engineering company who would hoist a monitor and table up on those legs. like athleasure but a PC case

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also wtf kind of adapter is coming out of their ten keyless?

narrow berry
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Looks like the AMD Flagship isn't even as good as the 3090 Ti

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Well I predicted this based on the TFlops and everyone was in denial saying it would clearly land between the 4080 and 4090. Just because you want it to be good doesn't mean it will be

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People were saying that you couldn't predict performance based on TFlops and I'm not saying it's an accurate prediction but it's a good estimate

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That's Vulkan

mighty cosmos
narrow berry
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The one you just showed was from the Vulkan benchmarks mine was from Direct X benchmarks

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Alright, I get it your either a die hard AMD fan, upset with Nvidia....or you just like to Argue with people on Discord because it makes you feel better about yourself.

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I haven't quite figured it out yet

mighty cosmos
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tflops is the worst way to estimate performance

narrow berry
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there is a place called Reddit and Stack Overflow if you need a place for that

mighty cosmos
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@narrow berryI will warn you to respect #rules , especially rule 1

narrow berry
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since you both ganged up on me

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I like how you back people into corners and then attack them when they lash out

mighty cosmos
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telling the facts and ganging up and insulting other users is not the same thing
Lets move on, final warning

narrow berry
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because this isn't the first time you've done this

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or Laura

mighty cosmos
next scroll
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Currently in the process of theorycrafting a new pc build.
So far aiming for the i9-13900kF
on a Msi meg z790 Ace
Planning on grabbing a proper cooling system aswell cause ye, msi meg core liquid s360

My main concern tho is the radiator size (360mm) and wich cases will fit into this build?
i know that the h510 fits but any other suggestions is creatly appreciated.

Or is it only the ATX Full/Mid Towers that fits as a whole?

frank glade
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Asus ap201...but you need a matx board

opaque pond
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I really need to find out how to increase vram size

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agile lodge
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the lights on end

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it have curve on design

hoary lintel
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yeah a little bit

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well its jus accented a little bit, it could be a lot more space shipier for my taste, but the 3 fans kinda destroy the look

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watercooled gpu could be made more into a cool design than fan-based

opaque pond
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I think I did increase the vram

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Time to test that at some point

cinder latch
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the normal h510 has bad airflow

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wet ore
# next scroll https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GXZ6Vw

if it were me I would take a hard look at what really makes that motherboard worth the price, sometimes it's just because it's able to support 256g ram, sometimes it's because it can handle a higher CPU voltage for overclocking then other boards can, or something else even more niche. like you could get this dopesauce sonic ASROCK board for half the price https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162101?quicklink=true
(can vouch ASROCK is a great company in my experience over my personal hell with gigabyte)

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with all the same features your board has

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warning: the ring is a sticker and not animated

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median marsh
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and sometimes it's license costs for having sonic on your mainboard (I doubt that there's an LGA1700 cpu which supports more than 128GB memory)

cosmic wyvern
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Ue5/ue4/unity for this pc

fallen oasis
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Unity is probably better? The UE editor is pretty heavy resource wise. Depends what you're doing, of course. You won't be able to make the next CoD on either of those engines with that hardware. Mobile games maybe?

next scroll
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When it comes to graphic cards?
Nvidia is the plan but 4000 serie seems like an overkill no matter how i look at it, workin, gaming or even both lol.
But having a hard time figuring out if it's worth going for a ti or not.

outer crane
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Hi , so Iโ€™m a noob, but I want to run UE5 on a desktop computer. I have some money , but I wanted to know what budget specs would I need to relatively run UE5 comfortable

fallen oasis
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Lots of cords and a 30x0 for comfortable.

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And 32gb of ram. Ssd.

fringe sonnet
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im so glad i buy my computer late this year and not now lol

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the graphic card is going to be the new xtx amd card

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every 2 months the ram is going to be upgraded with 32gb till its 128

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kinda cool right

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haha xD cotcha offguard there :p

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yes normaly i do but wait i think

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that this solves the answer your giving, getting a screenshot second

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it supports

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but it doesnt need it right ?

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the ddr kingston is 32 gb โค๏ธ

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dam

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ow the right one i choose for price catogory

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its actually this

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the right one is with this ram

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and the left on is when i go on budget and getting it better every 2 month by buying a 32gb same ddr5 ram piece

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but when its duel channel only that change the game

median marsh
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don't do that

fringe sonnet
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okay so i need to make it dual ram

median marsh
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specially companies like g.skill buy the chips they can get, so even if you buy the "same" stick it might be different

fringe sonnet
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aaaaaahhhh i wanna say bad words now haha xD

median marsh
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and that makes dualchannel setups tricky to setup

fringe sonnet
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so i betther buy the 274 euro sticks 2 time then 4 times a 32gb seperatly ?

median marsh
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well, i bought a full kit of 4 sticks and even they aren't free of trouble...

fringe sonnet
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so better 4X32 ?

median marsh
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also g.skill because i was desperate and they have been the best price ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe sonnet
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im in the same boat i guess xD

fringe sonnet
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my brain is stuck atm; can you guys help me out with the ram ?

median marsh
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no, i feel like buying memory is like gambling

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unless you buy memory from the one who produces it (so samsung, etc.)

fringe sonnet
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wish it cames with the cpu xD

median marsh
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they seem to be the only reliable source, and they let you pay that ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe sonnet
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samsung is reliable ? xD

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kinda feel bad for my wallet xD

median marsh
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what do you think what g.skill/kingston etc. put on their modules?

fringe sonnet
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i really dont know

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litteraly dont know xD

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haha i dont want to be desperate :p

median marsh
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Only a few companies produce RAM chips, and three manufacturers account for about 95% of the market share: Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix.

fringe sonnet
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i feel like the more i learn in those calculated wallet times the less i know xD

median marsh
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so kingston/gskill/corsair/whatever buy from those, and put the ram chips on a pcb

fringe sonnet
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what is pcb?

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pc vuild

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pc build

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motherboard? ๐Ÿ˜„

median marsh
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also on top of that, they buy chips, test how fast they can clock them and sell them at higher speed

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e.g. 2666MHz chips which run at 3200MHz "stable" is sold as 3200MHz

fringe sonnet
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A printed circuit board (PCB) is the board base for physically supporting and wiring the surface-mounted and socketed components in most electronics.

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okay i found it

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6000 euro if i go 128gb ram

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600

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xD

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i think 64gb will be fine for ue5 xD

median marsh
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did you get 128GB?

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ok, then that seems to be a decent price... DDR5?

fringe sonnet
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ddr5 would be nice

median marsh
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aren't you forced to get DDR5 if you buy a new ryzen?

fringe sonnet
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yups

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you are forced to buy a new motherboard to

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Opera

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lol now its chrome xD on the new its opera xD

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i hate software that kills your performance

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yeah xD

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what you guys think of mine motherboard im gone use?

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gigabyte x670 aorus elite ax

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its good for the heat on the ryzen chips

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it is madness

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ow dam

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it cost 360 euro

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to much xD

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intel seems nice

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i need a full new computer so this can be something good for me

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but intel

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is intel the same then ?

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so its actually all on me what i want

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after a lifetime of using unreal engine this would be easy to decide lol xD

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u remember my first msge here? :p

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that day was awfull for me xD i had to create a new discord account and didnt get any help xD

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no in this hardware channel xD

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the last 3 days i woke up with a dream called : does it fit ?

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yups thats true

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wel i bought alot of packs using online learning for 11.99 per course

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it was good

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but most of the time searching screwdriving the code in free ue4/5 packs gave me more advancing in my knowledge

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this one

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this one appears in my dreams 3 days after eachother now

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pricetag 999

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im in love

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o why ? ;o

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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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omg your right ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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this is bad this is reallt bad

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i have the fractal design torrent, with the 2x180mm fans on the bottom and the 3x140 artic cooler fans on the front the gpu wont be a problem to cool the r9 9750 cpu

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behind the radiator i can put extra 3x140fans to benefit airflow

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:p

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thats why its well money spend ๐Ÿ˜‚

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ow haha i ment the 7950 xD

opaque pond
median marsh
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you can save a bit of money on the case and PSU tho

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750W should really be sufficient for that system and full modular is unnecessary luxury imho

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prepare for lauras story about how full modular saved her life while assembling her system ๐Ÿ˜„

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or was it tank? (then sorry laura)

frank glade
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Also 7900 cards coming in 4 days?

median marsh
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ok, that's the one and only valid argument

opaque pond
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?

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its 500โ‚ฌ

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no?

fallen oasis
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Take inspiration!

opaque pond
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oh wait

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let me re do it then

fallen oasis
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This is interestng.

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Until your cat jumps on it and both it and the graphics card die.

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Hehe.

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Now that solves the 7900XT heat problem right there.

frank glade
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At least 7900xt is still normal sized

opaque pond
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what about the stock one?

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oo

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well i guess a basic one will do

fringe sonnet
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those were some ugly a** computers xD

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wel an easy fix for the 7900xtx is using an 420mm watercool system and put 3 extra fans on the radiator

median marsh
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kostaxr are you from germany?

fringe sonnet
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only takes like 75 euro xD

opaque pond
fringe sonnet
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for the extra gans xD

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fans*

fringe sonnet
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on this thingy

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pci-e5

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that is for the graphic card right ?

fringe sonnet
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thanks

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can you tell me more about this thingy for ue5 ? ๐Ÿ˜„

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is this a good chois?

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choice

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this is way out of mine comfortzone i am going to create a big world with world partition

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no 4k lol

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nanite i like

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but isnt that important

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Ddr4

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Cheaper and there are high ends for this

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I know ๐Ÿ˜

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So better the 13600k and a 16gb vram

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I hate using money haha xD

frank glade
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I chose the 13600k...single thread perf is very good, don't need much multithread work

outer crane
#

Hi, what specs you guys recommend for a tech artist?

fallen oasis
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All of them.

fringe sonnet
outer crane
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Let me add something ( budget friendly ๐Ÿฅฒ)

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ

fringe sonnet
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Last screenshot xS

fringe sonnet
median marsh
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it still has the 500gb ssd

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which we told you to remove...

fringe sonnet
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Yes the 500gb can be removed

fringe sonnet
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I will go for that then, after that i got 3 builds to pick im so nervous lol ๐Ÿคฃ

median marsh
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this isn't even a mechanical drive where the head has to move back and forth between partitions...

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there's no argument against them on SSD

fringe sonnet
outer crane
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Iโ€™m so sleep deprived I canโ€™t remember what partitions are anymore ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Oh

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Lol,nvm

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My brain started functioning

fringe sonnet
outer crane
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$1500

fringe sonnet
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You can try the previous gen amd

outer crane
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Mybe I should save a bit more

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Thoughts?

fringe sonnet
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7700 ? ๐Ÿ˜… Or try to get more mny xD

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I wish i could help xD

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What do you mean with update before 2025 ?

outer crane
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Lol

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So what are your thoughts on the ryzan 9 5900

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Why is that so ๐Ÿฅฒ

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

fringe sonnet
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๐Ÿ˜ข

outer crane
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Those words felt like knifes

fringe sonnet
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And if i do amd5 the amd6 generation is almost the same as the 5 generation

outer crane
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I feel dead inside

fringe sonnet
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Thats why amd5

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True

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But specs will be almost as good right ?

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We dont know that answer xD

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Amd6 can be 12terra ram xD

outer crane
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You didnโ€™t have to say it so bluntly to my face ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Pain

frank glade
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it's a business expense..buy newer, better tools to get more work done. you can't future proof them, don't worry about it

outer crane
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Why is bread associated with pain ๐Ÿฅฒ

frank glade
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someone missed french class lol

outer crane
frank glade
fringe sonnet
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Pain is bread xD

outer crane
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๐Ÿž

fringe sonnet
frank glade
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it's gonna happen. will keep playing old man games on it and complain to my kids about the younger generation

outer crane
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Please refer to me as bread as of now

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Iโ€™m demon of the bread

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Aka the bread demon

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Give me the bread and no one gets hurt

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I will inflict bread upon you

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I got the bread , haha

north arch
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I'd just eat the bread

outer crane
north arch
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what else would I do with it?

outer crane
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Feed it to ducks

north arch
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my ducks get far better food than that

outer crane
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To clarify I mean ducks as in kids not , you feed your ducks kids

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But na I donโ€™t judge

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

north arch
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I actually have ducks

outer crane
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Cool

north arch
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and chickens, and guineafowl, and peafowl

outer crane
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Do u feed them kids

north arch
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adding bees next year

outer crane
north arch
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for now fresh greens and feed pellets

outer crane
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I see, you have my at most respect

outer crane
wet ore
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you have my rump roast respect

outer crane
wet ore
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great, made another 3 this week, 2 cross platform sports mobas and a VR metaverse shooter

outer crane
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A tip, add a file , rename ducks . Thereafter you will see you donโ€™t have an empty project anymore

wet ore
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but I digress, lets continue in #lounge

outer crane
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@iron zenith AKA the bread addict, what budget , let me rephrase myself BUDGET, as in affordable specs would you recommend for programer, once more a budget friendly build.

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I was joking ๐Ÿ™ƒ but

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Never mind ๐Ÿ˜”

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Apologies

fringe sonnet
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i hate it that i need this motherboard

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or are there better for les money?

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i must say this are pretty awesome specs

frank glade
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Do you really? Have you considered going mitx? Everything you need, nothing you don't ๐Ÿ˜†

fringe sonnet
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what is mith ? :p

fringe sonnet
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okaaaayyy ready !

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13th december i prob gone hit the buy button

north arch
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what's the server's stance on the fascinating topic of x86 instruction set fuzzing?

wet ore
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don't get an Aorus, it's literally gigabytes throwaway gamer brand that is a "hardware company only", you can search or ask me about the mobo horror stories

fresh fog
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I mean it's a bit of an exaggeration

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For daily driving it's fine

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I use an aorus elite b550 and it does the job. I'm not going to try and push it past that job, hence why I bought an aorus elite

flat valve
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Does anyone have any recommendations for a budget laptop? I have a main machine but it's a bit annoying having to be at home to do my work all of the time. I'm look to spend less than $1000 if I can.

north arch
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how's your internet at home and where you'd use the laptop?

flat valve
# north arch how's your internet at home and where you'd use the laptop?

The internet is decent but I am strongly considering upgrading to a faster tier. I can't remember what the speed is off the top of my head. And I would primarily be using the laptop in home environments/ the library. Sometimes I go out to help family so it's nice to be able to still get work done

north arch
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consider a RDC connection?

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in which case the laptop hardly matters

vivid skiff
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Also depending on your region, asymmetrical connection (lopsided to download) might not be common

north arch
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it's bound to do better than a budget laptop build for any significant scene

teal mulch
#

7900xtx or 4080 for development?

fallen oasis
#

7900 has some serious design flaws with regards to heat exhaust. Whether that makes a difference is questionable, though.

teal mulch
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Does ue5 care anything about tflops in the slightest?

fallen oasis
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Not sure what that has to do with heat.

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I would wait until there are some reliable 7900 benchmarks for UE

teal mulch
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It has a lower tdp then the 4080. But ue4 seems a bit nvidia biased. Though I might be able to brute force an amd card to perform excellently

pale terrace
#

actual RT cores in the nvidia product perform better than what amd has at this point (we dont know on 7900 its not out yet) so if you use those heavily, it will perform better for that use. You also have CUDA on Nvidia if you use that for stuf outside of UE. With that said, if you need 60fps out of your project and both give you it (you wont know until they re both tested using something similar to your goals/use case) then the cheaper one makes more sense

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flots/gigajewels/barnium units all really dont matter in a general sense as the use case is what matters. I have a 6800m in this laptop for example and it runs everything I need unless I need 60fps using full hardware raytracing then I swap to my 3080 machine.

teal mulch
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Okty ๐Ÿ™‚

outer crane
fallen oasis
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It's a virtual VTuber thing in an anime, holding leeks, singing the polkka thing.

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The anime is fantatsic if you like trolls.

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And seeing said trolls fail over and over.

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Far better.

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I haven't seen saiki k in a few years, but yes.

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First season is only on Prime.

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"only on"

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Oh dropkick was on Netflix!?

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I meant Dropkick !

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I saw saiki on Netflix. ๐Ÿ™‚

mighty cosmos
#

Gentlemen, Lounge is this way #lounge

fallen oasis
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Go go, anime!

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What hardware would you use to watch anime?!

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๐Ÿ˜„

outer crane
#

Only the finest specs my half empty wallet could afford

outer crane
frank glade
#

Roadmaps for Intelโ€™s consumer, workstation and data-center products have been leaked The rumors were true, Intel is indeed launching a refreshed Raptor Lake-S processors next year. The socket longevity will be extended for another series. This is what the new leaked Intel roadmap appears to confirm. The slides posted today by @9550pro show deskt...

pallid flume
#

do you guys know where to find a link to DDU?

mighty cosmos
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yeah that's the one

pallid flume
#

k, sounds good

@mighty cosmos @silk bone
Thanks so much guys, been driving myself crazy.

Got decent hardware but it's runnin like it's from 2007, lol
Hopefully I can sort this out.

Have a good night

silk bone
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good luck

mighty cosmos
#

Good luck
It for sure shouldn't be running that bad

vivid skiff
#

For threadripper CPU with 64 cores compiling UE source code, is 128 GB of RAM enough?

mighty cosmos
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For 64 cores, 128 threads it won't

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You want about 1.5x the number of threads

fallen oasis
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That includes 10-20gb of system usage.

opaque pond
#

Well so for 6 threads it would be 9gb?

fallen oasis
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The 1.5x thing is extremely generic.

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It assumes middle-of-the-road type systems.

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It completely ignores the amount of ram your system is using outside of compiling.

opaque pond
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Well compiling asks for a lot of ram it doesn't use

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It asks for 1.5gb per task tho barely uses 4gb for 5 processes

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I guess there is a way to change that

fallen oasis
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You can disable the memory test/limit.

opaque pond
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Where can I do that from?

fallen oasis
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buildconfiguration.xml

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<Configuration xmlns="https://www.unrealengine.com/BuildConfiguration">
    <ParallelExecutor>
        <MemoryPerActionBytes>0</MemoryPerActionBytes>
    </ParallelExecutor>
</Configuration>```
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It's not going to let you use more ram than you have available, but it will clog your system up with as many processes as it can.

frank glade
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But what's the real world price for these?

jolly cloud
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hi some one here wants to buy 7900XTX ?

would u want to stay with Nvidia 4080 or go for 24GB vram 7900XTX ?
will it helps in UE5 ?

nvidia got better raytracing but. iam still want amd to be winner. its even lower price.

how much RAM UE5 max support ? will 64 be enought or when u need 128GB ?
anybody using DDR5 ?

wich CPU is best single core Mhz matters or more cores better for UE 5?

fallen oasis
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I have 32 cores/64 processes and I use about 80gb of memory when compiling (with 128) Feel free to use that as a yard stick.

jolly cloud
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ah k

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what project are they 80GB ???

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what eats the most

median marsh
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compiling the engine from source ^

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most ram usage, light baking on cpu followed by importing skeletal mesh from FBX ๐Ÿ˜„

jolly cloud
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how long u take?

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wich GPU

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can u post your specs

median marsh
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asl?

jolly cloud
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asl?

frank glade
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I'm going to get the new firepro rdna3 when/if they come out...32gb+ of vram and let you guys know. Because one UE editor and a substance painter project fill up my 12gb

fallen oasis
jolly cloud
frank glade
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Less than a 4090

median marsh
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it all depends on what kind of projects you work on

jolly cloud
median marsh
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UE is pretty much able to hit every hardware limit one way or the other ๐Ÿ˜„

jolly cloud
frank glade
jolly cloud
frank glade
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What's that

fallen oasis
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You're the one that mentioned it. ๐Ÿ™‚

jolly cloud
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lol

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nvm

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๐Ÿ˜„

median marsh
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can't use energy if your house is on fire

north arch
median marsh
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that's indeed interesting

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specially that the 4090 uses more power than the 4080

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while both should have pretty much the same architecture?!

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is there no frequency stepping?

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the 4080 <> 4090 situation seems to be solvable by driver/firmware

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if this really is a concern for nvidia, probably not worth addressing it

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same for AMD tho, those who buy those cards to play don't care about that, they get a 1200w power supply, and run that thing without frame limiter anyways ๐Ÿ˜„

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and coil whining is something that board partners will likely address somehow

mighty cosmos
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7900 are pretty much what I expected

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Keep in mind AMD ages great, same situation like 6900xt on launch, now it's beating the 3090

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Give it some time for drivers to mature

tawdry drum
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I ain't got years to wait

mighty cosmos
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this just goes to show the potential these GPUs have with good drivers

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but it's gonna be like half a year before the drivers mature enough

mighty cosmos
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yeah I don't care much about RT ๐Ÿ˜…

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the reality is RT is still a gimmick

median marsh
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which one is better in RT?

mighty cosmos
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Considering it costs 600+$ less these are some extremely good results

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Hopefully it forces NVidia to lower the prices because at least the 4080 has no chance of competing at 200$ more

north arch
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I'll take 2 for $200 total. Ok, fine, $250 for 3, that's my final offer, Nvidia! You have an overstock problem, I'm HELPING!

pallid flume
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I have been getting terrible performance on any game / project that brings my laptop underload.

But 1 minute after booting up a nanite scene, I realized that Nvidia is displaying my Fan speed as 0 RPM

Am I getting low performance because I have a broken fan?
(Laptop is Lenovo Legion i5 from I think 2019)

outer crane
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Hello, you guys know what budget specs will be good for modelling only in blender and using substance painter?

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I need your expertise lol ๐Ÿ˜‚

pearl quartz
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AMD is the winner

median marsh
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i think if you right click the unreal editor icon you can chose which gpu is used when you launch it

outer crane
cinder latch
pearl quartz
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No matter how much he takes the piss out of the silly naming they all just keep doing it. Im surprised they havent worked out Q and Z are the more valuable letters ๐Ÿ˜›

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RTX4090 Ultra Tiger Z-force

mighty cosmos
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I feel like 7900xt is there to make 7900xtx look better, same as 4080 and 4090

pearl quartz
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Im not sure what they were thinking using the 4090 cooler on the 4080, it looks like complete overkill

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You could put the 7900XTX Red Devil next to a 4080 and it still looks small

vivid skiff
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xX_1337g4m3rs_420blaze1t69_Xx

heady cloak
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Hey yโ€™all just want to ask a question, is 8gb ram with 1TB storage good enough to run UE5?

mighty cosmos
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At least 16, 32 would be ideal

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8 is way too little

hollow hare
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Ive had an issue with the power of my USB devices turning off when my external hard drive was in operation.

I solved this issue by getting a independently powered USB hub (Super useful, highly recommend one if you don't have one)

Looking at building a new PC now.

If anyone knows, do you think that USB power problem I had is indicative of a problem with the power supply unit of my current PC, or something else?

median marsh
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could be a lot of factors...

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main factor is probably the mainboard which didn't either provide enough power after all for all USB ports, or didn't limit the power draw on the port correct

hollow hare
median marsh
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it's most likely not the PSU

opaque pond
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tfw i had to uninstall 5.0 to install 5.1

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cause when i went to extract the zip

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it threw up an error pretty much saying " cant extract , you only have 7,2KB of storage left"

frank glade
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So some AIOs come with a single fanheader for fans AND pump?

north arch
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those are huge maps with lots of lighting to bake, I suspect that would be a miserable experience

dreamy sphinx
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would something like this work for this? @north arch if you know

uncut ivy
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I am looking for new screens and wanted to ask for your recommendations or tips.

Do you prefer to work with two screens or one big curved one?

What is important to you for working with Unreal / 3D?

Price range would be about 500$ per screen.

fallen oasis
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3 screens!

median marsh
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separate screens... provides better window management imho

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also you can turn them off if you don't need them

fallen oasis
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Plus a large screen makes playing games harder.

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Not only does it force you to use more of your (very bad) peripheral vision, it means you have to render higher resolutions.

frank glade
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I would not use a curved screen with 3D...all your lines are warped ๐Ÿ˜… Getting a 42 inch monitor was the dream, a ton of real estate and playing games you see a lot more detail up closer

fallen oasis
median marsh
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those "lines" help your brain to quickly focus on what matters if you move your focus to another screen

fallen oasis
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There's also different levels of curvature. Some are highly curved, some are not.

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For me, those "lines" mean convenient places to maximise my windwos without having to bother with a window manager.

median marsh
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that's all nice, there are also tools to improve that workflow... still it comes out of the box with multiple screens

vivid skiff