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heady sparrow Nov 24, 2022, 6:50 AM

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and registry version info

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could even just be lacking setup.bat dependencies or something, dunno

hushed brook Nov 24, 2022, 8:16 AM

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tried that out just now but it gives basically the same output with the same error so nothing seems to have changed?
heres the buildconfiguration i used

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<Configuration xmlns="https://www.unrealengine.com/BuildConfiguration">
    <ParallelExecutor>
        <ProcessorCountMultiplier>2</ProcessorCountMultiplier>
    </ParallelExecutor>
    <WindowsPlatform>
        <PCHMemoryAllocationFactor>500</PCHMemoryAllocationFactor>
    </WindowsPlatform>
</Configuration>```

hushed brook Nov 24, 2022, 8:33 AM

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?

hushed brook Nov 24, 2022, 8:54 AM

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it gave the same output with the older toolchain

coarse canyon Nov 24, 2022, 10:30 AM

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FYI - If anyone is still having issues with Rider, UE 5.1 and what version of VS 2022 to install:
The latest Rider 2022.3 EAP supports building with .NET 7 and the latest 17.4.x versions of VS 2022.

hushed brook Nov 24, 2022, 10:58 AM

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i pass my uproject with a couple parameters and flags into the built batch file in Engine\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat

hearty glacier Nov 24, 2022, 11:48 AM

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@coarse canyon Bless you, I was literally logging on this morning to ask about this

hushed brook Nov 24, 2022, 12:12 PM

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I'm not actually sure on how to disable parallelexecutor...
im trying to build and compile from a standard epic games launcher ue5.1 install's build batch file

hushed brook Nov 24, 2022, 12:48 PM

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In the 4.27 docs they have the option for bAllowParallelExecutor in build config, but in https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.1/en-US/build-configuration-for-unreal-engine/ it seems to be removed so I'm not too sure what to do.

hushed brook Nov 24, 2022, 1:08 PM

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It just gives the same output as before but with the extra warning that bAllowParallelExecutor isn't valid.

BuildConfiguration.xml(4): warning: The element 'BuildConfiguration' in namespace 'https://www.unrealengine.com/BuildConfiguration' has invalid child element 'bAllowParallelExecutor' in namespace 'https://www.unrealengine.com/BuildConfiguration'.```

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 1:49 PM

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There's a schema file that lists all the options

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It'll be in the same folder as one of the xml files (probably the one in the engine folder)

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 5:12 PM

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Why would that fix his build config issue?

lone scaffold Nov 24, 2022, 5:44 PM

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Looks like we have the Verse release date

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https://twitter.com/timsweeneyepic/status/1595480243388792839?s=46&t=7KE0Xswt3UWiFp_tKzLAiA

Possibly Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic)

@hmans Yes, it’s launching with Unreal Editor for Fortnite in late January.

quiet knot Nov 24, 2022, 5:58 PM

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It's nice to have official confirmation. Now if they would only have shown a demo or something, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that would benefit from it, for taking decisions and planning ahead and all. But well, It's only 2 more months™

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 6:03 PM

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I'll believe it when I see it.

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Just wonder when its going to make it to UE proper

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Don't get me too excited Laura

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I hope it isn't super disappointing, lol

quiet knot Nov 24, 2022, 6:13 PM

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idle vine Just wonder when its going to make it to UE proper

Verse is supposed to be a standalone language, so all the glue code needed for it to work may already be in 5.1

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 6:13 PM

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I'm well aware

quiet knot Nov 24, 2022, 6:29 PM

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I have used Skookumscript when it was alive so my opinion is biased. It solved problems related with compilation times without affecting performance (at least not as much as blueprints), it was easier to use and it only took me a few days to get used to the syntax and be more productive than in C++. Also, the built in coroutine features make a big difference when coding game logic, it simplified the game logic design when I used it. Some of the logic you can build in SK is not even 1:1 translatable to Blueprints, much less to C++.

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 6:42 PM

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It takes a lot to degrade CPU performance to a level that impacts framerate

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Nah

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GC doesn't face more load on Blueprint projects

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And making it a main source of performance problems implies you did no work tuning it at all - defaults is once per minute, so if you have a looooot of objects to kill, sure, it might be visible

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Get it to run once per second, it might be a lot smoother

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IIRC it also has plenty of performance settings like max objects per frame, etc

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And of course you can always just stop destroying objects

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If your game is CPU limited on PC I just have questions really

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Implying it ever gets near 1ms on PC

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 6:47 PM

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I already have and will if verse turns out to be total ass. The reason I prefer an Epic solution over 3rd party is because of platform support and just less shit to have to deal with overall

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Verse's syntax is total ass.

quiet knot Nov 24, 2022, 6:47 PM

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For example try to replicate a similar logic like this in BP or C++ and you'll get what I mean:
It's obviously possible, but not with the same simplicity. For starters, you would need to implement each coroutine (methods starting with underscore _) in separate classes/object instances in order to have the same functionality (similarly to how GAS gameplay abilties work).

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 6:48 PM

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I mean, you almost have it right there.

quiet knot Nov 24, 2022, 6:52 PM

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Yeah it kinda is, but it's more flexible. I predict many people will prefer to make their AI/animation logic in Verse if it gets widely adopted.

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 6:54 PM

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This stuff has virtually no performance implications, too

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I mean, that's language-level GC where every random integer has to be considered, right? Unreal GC should normally have like 15 actors to delete every 10s or so

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If that's anywhere on your performance radar, just pool the fuck out of them, problem solved

quiet knot Nov 24, 2022, 7:00 PM

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I think Epic is gonna bring coroutines to c++ as well, maybe to facilitate 1:1 porting of logic between verse and c++ who knows.

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:00 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-obese-heavy-breathing-gif-4132017

Tenor

heavy breathing

▶ Play video

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Laura rn

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Oh good, we didn't have any of those yet

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People scream at me when I tell them an ECS is fifteen minutes of code

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Really? I haven't heard of one

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:03 PM

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I love the implication that people here do not work on sold-for-money games

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They can but probably they're focusing on Verse as some sort of future pathway to a nicer syntax

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For some definition of nice, anyway

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We're talking scripting languages - good engine integration is like 75% of the value (the rest being whether it runs on console)

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People still ship things with Lua despite Lua being the worst language in existence

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If the language exists and is well integrated, and it works everywhere and isn't blocking your designers, the rest is heavy nitpicking

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But being a fork means it's a non-starter for anyone not wanting such a risk

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:07 PM

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It also doesn't support interfaces or GAS

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It also doesn't have guaranteed support on ALL consoles

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:07 PM

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I certainly wouldn't sign on for an engine fork, ever

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There's no feature in the world that would get me to ship a game with a fork of the engine

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:09 PM

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Yeah - I'm fully aware of AS and have actively used it

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:09 PM

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Can you tell us how much it cost in internal support

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:09 PM

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Hazelight does not officially support consoles for you

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YOU need to handle that yourself

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The only platform support that they provide is desktop

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And even then Linux isn't guaranteed

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:10 PM

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Linux is kinda a non-issue today with Proton tbh, chances are the Proton build is better than native

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Literally Proton is getting better than true ports because of the scale

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:11 PM

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I like the AS integration and I like the language itself. But it isn't the best solution.

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:11 PM

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Of course Valve would want you to rely on their infrastructure

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:11 PM

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And this is where Verse has a massive advantage. Because Epic will support that.

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Which is less work for you.

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:12 PM

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Verse is for Fortnite so you know it will ship rock solid, with 10 year support, on every single platfom

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:12 PM

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dark spindle Verse is for Fortnite so you know it will ship rock solid, with 10 year support,...

Which is a major deal.

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This is one of the absolute biggest advantages

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:12 PM

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It's the only consideration for something as fundamental as the language you use

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"oh no, the language I made my AAA title with is obsolete now"

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"time to rewrite it"

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"oh no, it doesn't work on PS4, can we skip that one"

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lmao

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I literally work on one such title to this very day

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Ask me why I hate the fucking thing

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 7:14 PM

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Why do you hate it?

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:14 PM

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But it's not unsupported at all.

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(notice how I didn't mention Unreal)

quiet knot Nov 24, 2022, 7:14 PM

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dark spindle We're talking scripting languages - good engine integration is like 75% of the v...

This. One thing I didn't mention about Skookumscript is that the the integration was not perfect. It had problems with marketplace plugins, using it with c++ code required custom code in the c++ modules. It was incompatible with certain c++ classes so if you found errors you would need to tell SK to skip generating code for those problematic classes, etc. Meanwhile Angelscript just... works! But to be fair, the Skookumscript devs said that many problems they had with the integration was due to their intention to make the language standalone and not require a custom engine.

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:15 PM

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Depends which one.

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I know of at least three serious Lua implementations, two of which I've seen in production

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One is a bit difficult

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Talking fully independent implementations of the entire language

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Even LuaJIT is basically two implementations of Lua in one package

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It's also fairly unrelated to luac, AFAIK

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And so on

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Anyway, just saying integration & support is the #1 feature for your language. If it's not your engine's main language, it's gonna get cut / not ported on next gen / badly optimised on last gen / have That Weird Bug on your top selling platform

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Being slow or having a shitty syntax can be serious problems, but they're usually not directly project-endangering in my experience

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IMHO.

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I don't think Epic is gonna do anything on C++'s level for the decade to come

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Like, C# or Rust or something in that range

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They have decided on C++ for game systems, that's not going away

twin hazel Nov 24, 2022, 7:24 PM

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btw a confirmed fact: verse is being developed by exactly what Tim wants

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based on a talk with one of the Verse developers ^

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:26 PM

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But that's C++ in Unreal and they're not replacing it

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:26 PM

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That's not a fault of Verse or BP. That's just UE not designing things to be that way

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:26 PM

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That's C++'s role in Unreal and if you're waiting for an alternative, you're gonna be disappointed

lone scaffold Nov 24, 2022, 7:28 PM

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in case you missed also other tweets. Here is also one stating it will support visual scripting https://twitter.com/ylsiew/status/1588454769924132865?s=46&t=yWHyngrEWqb7UeGLfoZRWQ

Siew Yi Liang (@ylsiew)

I very recently finished my first year here at Epic and can safely say that if you join this team, you'll be working on interesting and challenging problems on a daily basis. Don't be afraid if you don't have prior languages/compiler experience: just strong fundamentals!

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:28 PM

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This is not a goal at Epic, not is it at many other large companies, because C++ is fine and C++ programmers are required at Epic anyway. Verse is designed for mods, IIRC, which means it needs to be very severely sandboxed

twin hazel Nov 24, 2022, 7:29 PM

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verse also specifically will focus on async

twin hazel Nov 24, 2022, 7:31 PM

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lone scaffold in case you missed also other tweets. Here is also one stating it will support v...

btw.. mercurylang looks terrible and explains absurd syntax

lone scaffold Nov 24, 2022, 7:34 PM

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https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/careers/jobs/4159069004

I assume it could be eventually “BP v2” which will be under the hood just verse text script. Would explain the strong async focus as it is what BPs use a lot.

Epic Games

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twin hazel Nov 24, 2022, 7:35 PM

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I also remember at 2019 Epic said they are working on a new VM

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that will be faster than current one

lone scaffold Nov 24, 2022, 7:35 PM

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Yep, Solaris VM is the name of it

twin hazel Nov 24, 2022, 7:35 PM

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a VM is actually can run multiple languages

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so maaaybe solaris can interpret both BP and verse, who knows

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yep

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didnt shookumscript have

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 7:38 PM

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I imagine this year's UE in review will have a few questions about Verse in the Q&A

twin hazel Nov 24, 2022, 7:38 PM

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iirc shookumscript's threads was easy as lua's

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anyway gotta sleep.. cya peepoBed

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 7:53 PM

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I actually long suspected that it would be Fortnite only

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Apparently it's coming to the engine but it really was a Fortnite thing originally

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And as you mentioned there's been nada on it from the engine team

dark spindle Nov 24, 2022, 8:09 PM

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I would be surprised if it comes to the engine in January but hey, I like surprises

golden schooner Nov 24, 2022, 8:24 PM

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i have the same error today with UE source build and rider. Did you end up fixing it?

golden schooner Nov 24, 2022, 8:27 PM

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coarse canyon FYI - If anyone is still having issues with Rider, UE 5.1 and what version of VS...

do i just need to update to .NET 7.0?

idle vine Nov 24, 2022, 8:30 PM

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dark spindle I actually long suspected that it would be Fortnite only

It was never meant to be Fortnite only. Tim literally said, back in the first Q&A about it, that it will come to Fortnite first and then UE proper.

golden schooner Nov 24, 2022, 8:32 PM

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hmm could you point me in a direction for how to use a custom/direct command to build? Never heard of that before

nova sleet Nov 24, 2022, 8:38 PM

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golden schooner i have the same error today with UE source build and rider. Did you end up fixin...

Either get Rider EAP (the newest one is stable) or downgrade to .net 6

golden schooner Nov 24, 2022, 8:40 PM

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nova sleet Either get Rider EAP (the newest one is stable) or downgrade to .net 6

I'm using .NET 6. But I might've updated VS 2022

nova sleet Nov 24, 2022, 8:48 PM

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The easiest option might be to just get EAP

golden schooner Nov 24, 2022, 8:49 PM

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nova sleet The easiest option might be to just get EAP

if I have a one year subscription with rider, will that affect it?

nova sleet Nov 24, 2022, 8:51 PM

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golden schooner if I have a one year subscription with rider, will that affect it?

It won't
EAPs are free and you can either upgrade your current version or install it alongside the one you are using (which is what I would probably do)

golden schooner Nov 24, 2022, 8:52 PM

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nova sleet It won't EAPs are free and you can either upgrade your current version or instal...

oh okay ty and do you think rider will fix the current issue with our current project? like this is a temporary fix and we're waiting for a patch or something?

nova sleet Nov 24, 2022, 8:56 PM

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golden schooner oh okay ty and do you think rider will fix the current issue with our current pr...

Rider EAP supports .Net 7 so this is a permanent fix, once it goes out of EAP and becomes the final release version it will continue to work

golden schooner Nov 24, 2022, 9:17 PM

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nova sleet Rider EAP supports .Net 7 so this is a permanent fix, once it goes out of EAP an...

thanks, I updated to EAP and download .NET 7 it instantly fixed the issue, appreciate the help!

nova sleet Nov 24, 2022, 9:22 PM

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golden schooner thanks, I updated to EAP and download .NET 7 it instantly fixed the issue, appr...

Glad it worked 👌

golden hamlet Nov 24, 2022, 10:47 PM

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Whenever i try to make a new plugin in ue5.1 with vs2019 it states Failed to generate project files

hidden hedge Nov 24, 2022, 11:07 PM

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and the rest of the error output?

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 11:36 PM

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golden hamlet Whenever i try to make a new plugin in ue5.1 with vs2019 it states **Failed to g...

You have to do the thing.

golden hamlet Nov 24, 2022, 11:37 PM

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iron dome You have to do the thing.

Oh yeah, the thing.

golden hamlet Nov 24, 2022, 11:37 PM

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hidden hedge and the rest of the error output?

None afaict

hidden hedge Nov 24, 2022, 11:38 PM

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"afaict"?

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 11:38 PM

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How are you trying to create it?

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As far as I can tell.

hidden hedge Nov 24, 2022, 11:38 PM

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oh, I've always seen afaik for that

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can you show the window which says Failed to generate project files?

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typically it gives a reason

golden hamlet Nov 24, 2022, 11:45 PM

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iron dome How are you trying to create it?

Thru the Add button in Plugins

iron dome Nov 24, 2022, 11:45 PM

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And there's nothing in your output log at all?

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I'd suggest claering it before hitting Add.

hushed brook Nov 25, 2022, 5:19 AM

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Ok that's weird. I've added those flags but -skipbuildeditor didn't change anything. However, specifying -Project= in front of my project parameter somehow changed it? The first run reduced it to 3 actions going down until 1 by seemingly random increments to me(made an edit and built again but the actions required went from 9->8->3->1) until the target was up to date. Each time I ran it it still gave the same 998 memory error though.
(previously I just threw in the project path in the same position as your suggestion but without -Project= to specify the parameter and it had worked before)

hushed brook Nov 25, 2022, 7:16 AM

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My UE5.1 is downloaded and installed from Epic Launcher, but I'm building my stuff with the build batch provided in the engine through cmd.

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UE4.27 is also installed but on a different drive.

thick storm Nov 25, 2022, 7:55 AM

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git sync died again -;-

small surge Nov 25, 2022, 11:02 AM

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what are the plus branches for?

south vortex Nov 25, 2022, 11:41 AM

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I'm totally stuck; running source of 5.1 - i'm still not getting a correct "crash" response. I simply get a fatal error with nothing in the editor.

I've literally formatted my computer, put on a clean copy of VS2022, cloned Unreal5.1 from Epic, built from source = compiled fine, create c++ third person project.

Modify the Jump() function to have a null pointer call to intentionally force a crash. Open third person project, run from IDE, and "jump" to cause the crash - and I just get the fatal error message with no clue what the cause is (obviously we know why on this example, but without it you would not know).

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I've formatted my computer and even with a 'base' clean install of everything - its just not working? I'm not sure what step I'm missing... I didnt have any of these issues with the 5.0 source... the only thing I can think of that is different is that VS2022 is now installing .NET7 stuff now instead of .NET6 - maybe its that?

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There are "crash logs" in the folder, but the call stack doesnt tell you what the problem is:

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no - i've selected development editor. I might try debuggame editor now and see what happens.

I'm just so confused why it looks like its missing the symbols etc if I built it myself. I dont have a "launcher" version on this PC - I formatted it, so there is nothing but the UE source code...

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my gut is telling me this is somehow related to running .NET7 which was only released 1-2 weeks ago, so most people are still probably running .NET6 and havent come across it yet? I dont know what else it could be on a totally clean basic install/project...

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ok - so I'll switch my branch to 4.23 and try and report back here when its done...

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Interesting - I DONT have that. I only have:

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dont know - I havent touched anything, and I havent "live coded" in this session. Just open up from IDE -> Editor -> Play

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I'll try and specifically disable live coding in the editor and start again.

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so disabling live coding in the editor entirely removes the second process. But no Crashreporter process still...

south vortex Nov 25, 2022, 12:31 PM

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yeah - i have only installed the Rider EAP, although I've switched to just using VS2022 for this to rule out the EAP been a cause.

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with a debugger? it attaches fine and I see the exception thrown inside the VS debugger on the line as expected.

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i'm currently recompiling the framework again - so i'll have to wait for that for a few hours before moving onto trying some of the suggestions above. Thanks everyone for your time, it is appreciated.

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yeah i know - I'm just ruling out as many possible edge case causes as possible

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given i've formatted my pc and running "bare basic" and still having the issue - I'm just been more strict about removing as many variables as I can until I find the cause.

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swap computers with me - I've prepared one for you 🙂

south vortex Nov 25, 2022, 3:07 PM

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are amazing. Thank you thank you thank you.

I ran the dependancy on the CrashReporter - and it said I was missing "winpixeventruntime.dll"

I downloaded that from a dodgy site https://www.dll-files.com, put it in my Windows\System32 folder - and it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

iron dome Nov 25, 2022, 3:07 PM

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That sounds super dodgy.

south vortex Nov 25, 2022, 3:08 PM

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It does raise a question how/why that file would be missing in the first place on a clean install of UE on a freshly formatted PC

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but it works.

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i'm going to reformat anyway

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so I wasnt worried

iron dome Nov 25, 2022, 3:08 PM

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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/pix/winpixeventruntime/

PIX on Windows

WinPixEventRuntime

PIX events are used to instrument your game, labeling regions of CPU or GPU work and marking important occurrences. Including this instrumentation while developing the game can make PIX captures far nicer to work with. An “event” represents a region of time –

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Like this?

south vortex Nov 25, 2022, 3:08 PM

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I've done too much damage to my PC installing and uninstalling stuff - so my OCD - its time for a format and fresh install

south vortex Nov 25, 2022, 3:08 PM

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iron dome Like this?

yeah - will do that when I reformat my computer tomorrow and do a fresh install and start again

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Its such a strange silent error too - like there is nothing to indicate something failed this whole time.

I'm so happy - thanks everyone for your time - I really appreciate it - such a huge relief to get this sorted.

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And @stable hemlock was on the right path too - now that the DLL issue is fixed - the CrashReporter is in the running processes. But its further down the list as a background task

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"filter"?

I just do git clone -> setup.bat -> generatedfiles.bat

per the various docs I've read

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is there another step?

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its there...

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so not sure why it wasnt "using" it?

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yep

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📎 CrashReportClientEditor.target

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i might try swapping the DLL from the one I downloaded to the one that came with the source, and see if its the DLL File maybe - 1 sec

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this is what I saw when the file was missing

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And then if I place the epic version of the DLL File (now that I know it ships with one) into Windows\System32 - I get this:

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This is one a fresh windows install -> clone github -> setup.bat -> generateprojectfiles -> build -> run

Like literally textbook basic install with nothing else.

I have no idea - must be something about my hardware/config or I'm just doing some small step different to everyone else....

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I'm running the new VS2022 which was released last week - and it includes all the new SDKs, which with the community version you are forced to use NET7 and all the "new" stuff - i.e. the new Win SDKs etc- it must be related to that somehow I guess? That's the only thing I can think of, which would explain why its affecting me and not other people yet if you havent upgraded?

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Anyway - its super late here, so I'm going to bed, so tomorrow I can do a fresh format of my PC and have a clean build ready to go. Thanks everyone!

mental harbor Nov 25, 2022, 9:16 PM

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Anyone know if I'm missing anything.... I'm currently copying StaticMeshEditor piece by piece to create an editor for my needs instead of trying to find a tutorial to learn from, and currently now creating the EditorViewport...

Just to copy over what StaticMeshEditor.cpp has because I just modified the types

    TSharedRef< SDockTab > DockableTab =
        SNew(SDockTab);

    TWeakPtr<IStaticMeshEditor> WeakSharedThis(SharedThis(this));
    MakeViewportFunc = [WeakSharedThis](const FAssetEditorViewportConstructionArgs& InArgs)
    {
        return SNew(SStaticMeshEditorViewport)
            .StaticMeshEditor(WeakSharedThis);
    };

    // Create a new tab
    ViewportTabContent = MakeShareable(new FEditorViewportTabContent());
    ViewportTabContent->OnViewportTabContentLayoutChanged().AddRaw(this, &FStaticMeshEditor::OnEditorLayoutChanged);

    const FString LayoutId = FString("StaticMeshEditorViewport");
    ViewportTabContent->Initialize(MakeViewportFunc, DockableTab, LayoutId);

    return DockableTab;

On my version, I'm getting linker errors.... and somehow ViewportTabContent = MakeShareable(new FEditorViewportTabContent()); this line is what's causing it.... commenting it out removes the linker errors.... and the linker errors I'm getting are for the functions FViewportTabContent::OnViewportTabContentLayoutChanged(), and another event related function that both are defined inside "ViewportTabContent.h"

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So what I want to know.... if I'm missing anything in terms to making sure it compiles....
The above requires the UnrealEd module, and I have included that in my module's build dependencies

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:17 PM

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hidden hedge can you show the window which says Failed to generate project files?

as i said befor, nothing afaict

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 9:18 PM

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ok then check the output log? how about running "generate project files" manually?

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:18 PM

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hidden hedge ok then check the output log? how about running "generate project files" manuall...

Haven't touched anything since last time i ran it, once i managed to get it to launch i tried to create a plugin without success

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But sure, could give it a second go

mental harbor Nov 25, 2022, 9:20 PM

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Ahhh I have narrowed it down to potentially the new call itself is giving me issues as constructing a FEditorViewportTabContent on the stack does not give me any linker errors

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:22 PM

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hidden hedge ok then check the output log? how about running "generate project files" manuall...

ONly getting this when i attempt to .bat for a second time
Not expecting project D:\Unreal\Source\Engine\Intermediate\ProjectFiles\LyraGameEOS.vcxproj to already have a target rules of with configuration name Game (LyraGameEOSTarget) while trying to add: LyraGameEOSTarget

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 9:25 PM

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and what did you CALL your plugin?

mental harbor Nov 25, 2022, 9:33 PM

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Looks like the base, FViewportTabContent gives me similar issues, to FViewportTabContent itself is somehow not built or something

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:44 PM

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hidden hedge and what did you CALL your plugin?

Nothing lol

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Literally

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 9:44 PM

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...you need to give it a name

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:44 PM

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I did...

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Nothing

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 9:45 PM

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and did you try something else?

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:45 PM

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Yeap, Inget aswell

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 9:45 PM

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unreal has weird reserved names for projects and plugins

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you can't call a project/plugin "Test" for example (it might let you, but won't package)

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and where did you put Lyra relative to your engine checkout?

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:46 PM

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Should be mentioned if not already given to your attention, running 5.1

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 9:47 PM

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hidden hedge and where did you put Lyra relative to your engine checkout?

D:\Unreal\Source\Here

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 9:47 PM

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show a screenshot of the Lyra folder in explorer

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 11:08 PM

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hidden hedge show a screenshot of the Lyra folder in explorer

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 11:09 PM

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The directory above it

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 11:09 PM

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golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 11:11 PM

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hidden hedge The directory above it

^

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 11:15 PM

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and you didn't copy anything to the Engine source did you? I remember you asking where to put it

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you could also delete intermediate to be sure

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because your current file structure looks correct

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 11:35 PM

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hidden hedge and you didn't copy anything to the Engine source did you? I remember you asking...

Nope, went for a fresh setup

golden hamlet Nov 25, 2022, 11:36 PM

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hidden hedge you could also delete intermediate to be sure

And regenerate or?

hidden hedge Nov 25, 2022, 11:36 PM

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yes clear intermediate and regen

agile lava Nov 28, 2022, 7:22 AM

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Hello, may I please get help with a bunch of build errors

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I get CVT11107 error about file corruption

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the files are

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zlibstatic.lib
libcurl_a.lib

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oh and im building 5.0.3-release

heady sparrow Nov 28, 2022, 7:51 AM

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agile lava Hello, may I please get help with a bunch of build errors

Try running setup.bat

agile lava Nov 28, 2022, 7:52 AM

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i actually have but i will do that again right nwo

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thank you

agile lava Nov 28, 2022, 12:27 PM

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problem solved

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👍

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rebuilt the entire project from ground up

high epoch Nov 29, 2022, 4:37 AM

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Is it legal to make a GitHub repo with the engine code public? The official UnrealEngine repo is private and accessible upon free registration, so it makes me wonder.

iron dome Nov 29, 2022, 5:36 AM

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You can fork the engine into your own account.

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That still requires that bit of sign-uppery to view it on your account I think.

high epoch Nov 29, 2022, 6:36 AM

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iron dome You can fork the engine into your own account.

I had it forked initially but at this stage I don’t even have the connection to the original repo/history anymore, so it’s just a regular public repo.

iron dome Nov 29, 2022, 6:37 AM

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I'm pretty sure that's definitely 100% not allowed.

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Even sharing more than 20 lines of engine code is against the licence.

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Just publicly hosting all of it is definitely against the rules.

high epoch Nov 29, 2022, 6:38 AM

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Okay, thx… I’ll switch it back to private.

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In terms of source access it’s not much different to a fork, but… 🤷

iron dome Nov 29, 2022, 6:43 AM

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It's just a bit different...

dark spindle Nov 29, 2022, 7:48 AM

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high epoch Is it legal to make a GitHub repo with the engine code public? The official Unre...

You have to ensure that no one outside the EpicGames organization on GitHub can access it.

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That's the actual rule, if you can prove no one without access can get it, you're fine.

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In practice I believe you have to make it a fork, indeed.

high epoch Nov 29, 2022, 7:51 AM

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Yeah, cause the fork inherits the permissions.

dark spindle Nov 29, 2022, 7:52 AM

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You absolutely cannot

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Not editor builds, anyway

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Even game builds have strings attached

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Releasing the Unreal editor comes with the very same rule: only developers in the EpicGames organization

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In practice, only internally on your team or through the EGS

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For example it's very explicitly forbidden to ship your game editor on Steam

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Releasing binary builds of the editor to the public is a very big no

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The EULA

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Any public Distribution of Engine Tools (e.g., intended generally for third parties who are separately licensed by us to use the Engine Code) must take place through a marketplace operated by Epic such as the Unreal Engine Marketplace (e.g., for Distributing a Product’s modding tool or editor to end users) or through a fork of Epic’s GitHub UnrealEngine Network (e.g., for Distributing Source Code).

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https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/eula/unreal

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“Engine Tools” means the (i) editors and other tools included in the Engine Code; (ii) any code and modules in either the Developer or Editor folders, including in object code format, whether statically or dynamically linked; and (iii) other software that may be used to develop standalone products based on the Licensed Technology.

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No, it does not

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"including in object code format"

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"whether statically or dynamically linked"

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And it does not mention changes

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The license has always been crystal clear since 4.0 that you cannot, ever, redistribute editor code or binaries

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Plugins can be shared

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If they do not contain editor code

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Defined as code "in either the Developer or Editor folders"

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Binary or not

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NO

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I literally copypasted the EULA here, this has been true for the past decade

heady sparrow Nov 29, 2022, 8:01 AM

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Are you thinking of the editor mod thingies like that Ark mod editor?

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Those are specific deals iirc

dark spindle Nov 29, 2022, 8:02 AM

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They're not - we shipped our own editor too

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Just has to go through an Epic store

heady sparrow Nov 29, 2022, 8:02 AM

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Maybe that's what Kein is remembering

dark spindle Nov 29, 2022, 8:02 AM

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EGS or marketplace

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Again per the EULA

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You're not indeed because this rule never changed

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Public redist of editor = EGS/Marketplace for binary, GitHub fork for sources

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Very literally written in the EULA you signed

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And yes this means you can't ship your editor on Steam or your website and yes this is a very well known limitation that Epic has time and time again addressed

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Just read the EULA. I'm not responsible for your legal compliance. I'm just telling you the facts here.

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A quick forum search will turn up some Epic answers

thick storm Nov 29, 2022, 8:08 AM

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Feel free to try, but EULA clearly states that anything which touches editor cannot be distributed outside of Epic organization.

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regardless if it is binary or source form

dark spindle Nov 29, 2022, 8:13 AM

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Here's Epic Game's Chance Ivey, who was community manager at the time, confirming my "interpretation": https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/got-general-modding-questions/34572

you can redistribute your customized version of the Unreal Editor, and (if you choose) UE4 source code, freely, to the Unreal Engine 4 community through Epic’s UE4 channels including GitHub and the Marketplace
Why does the Unreal Editor and source have to be released through Epic’s UE4 channels?
The intent here is to keep the entire Unreal Engine developer community together, so that everyone from pros to indies and modders shares the same documentation, forums, content marketplace, and collaboration resources.

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Or here, too: https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/a-stripped-down-editor-that-can-be-shipped-with-the-game-as-map-editor-for-the-community/93939/21

GitHub and the launcher are the only two ways to release any parts of the editor

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And again, for clarity, the EULA:

Any public Distribution of Engine Tools [..] must take place through a marketplace operated by Epic such as the Unreal Engine Marketplace
“Engine Tools” means the (i) editors and other tools included in the Engine Code; (ii) any code and modules in either the Developer or Editor folders, including in object code format
“Engine Code” means the Source Code (as defined below) and object code of Unreal Engine, including any future versions made available to you by us under this Agreement and any object code compiled from that Source Code.

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There really isn't a lot of interpreting required here.

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You can also read the release checklist: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/release

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Confirm your product doesn’t contain the Unreal Engine editor or tools—or an editor or tools based on the Unreal Engine editor or tools—if shipped to the general public

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Though honestly I have no idea how the EULA quote above isn't clear cut enough, when every word is extremely well defined legalese

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"object code" could be unclear to a layman but it's obvious that it's binary in context, and of course, it's well-established legalese: https://www.contractscounsel.com/g/563/us/object-code

Object Code: Definition and Examples (2022)

Learn about Object Code with ContractCounsel's Technology Term Glossary. Click here to learn more.

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Content is under a separate license, AFAIK, one that boils down to "free to use in any Unreal work"

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Code is under a very clear "anything in Developer or Editor folders can never be shared publicly in any shape or form unless through Epic" license

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Content EULA is here: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/eula/content

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Good thing these things are well defined

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“Source Code” means the human readable form of a software program, including all modules it contains, plus any associated interface definition files, scripts used to control compilation, and installation of an executable.

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Per the EULA, again

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Anyway, I think I've provided enough sources for the contract you've signed when installing the engine

brittle spade Nov 29, 2022, 10:24 AM

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Hey everyone,
I'm trying to build a custom version of the TextureShareSDK dll from the 5.1 source with some modifications that I did way back for the 4.26 version of it, but for the life of me can't remember what the macros/build settings were I needed to change.

First issue is that on loading the compiled dll changes the working directory. I vaguely remember there being a macro to change this behavior.

The second issue was if I remember correctly that the dll by default upon load installs a top level exception handler that catches some of the initial checks our app is doing (stuff like checking to see if we're running in a vm). I think I had to manually disable some code to fix this, but maybe there's also a macro for it.

Could anyone point me in the direction of these settings? Last time it took a week to find them :D

nova sleet Nov 29, 2022, 4:10 PM

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Stranger is correct here, you are in no way allowed to freely redistribute editor source code or a binary build

late moss Nov 29, 2022, 6:11 PM

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How do I enable HitProxies on certain objects in custom editor viewport? I tried setting bSelectable on primitive components (USkeletalMeshComponent), but mouse click handlers still get NULL for HitProxy wherever I click.

languid bridge Nov 30, 2022, 11:56 AM

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Hey, I was using vs code until this day and decided to switch to visual studio. I followed many suggested modified settings but I am getting some errors. Does anyone know how to solve it?

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I am also having this. I already installed that plugin but still pops up.

copper vapor Nov 30, 2022, 1:50 PM

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Please help: I'm in dire need of a course/website/etc that explains the internals of how Unreal works.

I know how to -use- it, but I'm an engineer who now has to learn how to hack inside the source code. My experiences with doing so far have left me utterly confused by it's lack of coherent internal design.

dark spindle Nov 30, 2022, 2:38 PM

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Explaining how a project that massive works is a bit of a large undertaking

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Might want to explain what your changes are

thick storm Nov 30, 2022, 10:11 PM

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from main

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haven't clicked it yet

patent crypt Dec 1, 2022, 1:08 AM

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unreal engine 5 source code leaks! alert the presses! oh wait...they did it on purpose :-p

full jewel Dec 1, 2022, 5:19 AM

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wasn't add client already there?

hidden hedge Dec 1, 2022, 5:58 AM

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I thought that was a Lyra thing

full jewel Dec 1, 2022, 5:59 AM

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it was there in 4 to add another client to a running game, you may have needed settings for it be visible though

heady sparrow Dec 1, 2022, 6:47 AM

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weird, never noticed that

tacit yew Dec 1, 2022, 2:36 PM

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hello group! who could give me a help?
I have a problem trying to run my preview on Meta Quest 2 and I've been battling that problem for days, thank you very much!

Captura_de_pantalla_2022-12-01_a_las_01.31.09.png

iron dome Dec 1, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Does the file indicated exist?

rustic loom Dec 1, 2022, 3:24 PM

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Hi, can someone help me, how to stop generating .pdb file in shipping build?

smoky goblet Dec 1, 2022, 3:28 PM

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rustic loom Hi, can someone help me, how to stop generating .pdb file in shipping build?

Why would you want to do that? you need those if you want to debug any crashes in your shipping build.
It's tougher with all the optimizations for sure, but it's down right impossible if you can't resolve symbols with the pdb.

rustic loom Dec 1, 2022, 3:31 PM

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smoky goblet Why would you want to do that? you need those if you want to debug any crashes i...

project task 🙃

rustic loom Dec 1, 2022, 3:35 PM

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smoky goblet Why would you want to do that? you need those if you want to debug any crashes i...

if you know how, can you write please?
what I was looking for on the forums did not work

smoky goblet Dec 1, 2022, 3:36 PM

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That's not really an answer to the question. why is it a project task? You need those pdbs. You don't distribute them but you shouldn't suppress their creation.
No, I don't know how because it's nothing I would ever consider doing and wouldn't allow anyone on my projects to do either.

rustic loom Dec 1, 2022, 3:48 PM

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smoky goblet That's not _really_ an answer to the question. _why_ is it a project task? You _...

if I understand correctly, they take a lot of time to generate, and since we do + -15 project generations per day for different tests, this would speed up our work

smoky goblet Dec 1, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Okay, I guess I could understand that on some level. But I find it hard to believe that the pdb generation (which should be happening at the same time as compilation & linking anyway) would be that much time comparatively.
We do multiple builds a day as well (14 yesterday) that all generated pdbs.
I guess it's hard to say how much of a speed up it is without actually turning them off.
Personally though, it doesn't matter how much faster it makes it (mostly because I'm not expecting much) if engineers can't debug issues/crashes from that build.

mossy wave Dec 2, 2022, 10:58 AM

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if i use a binary build from source, the engine association will be a random GUID and on every pc, it will change around and naturally source control will detect it as a change, are there anyways i can somehow prevent the changes?

dark spindle Dec 2, 2022, 11:17 AM

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mossy wave if i use a binary build from source, the engine association will be a random GUI...

Yes, use the source to produce an installed build and share that

mossy wave Dec 2, 2022, 11:18 AM

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yeah, i've made an installed build, looking around here tells me that i need to do a registry to let the system know where to find the 4.27Plus engine installation?

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not really sure how to do that

mossy wave Dec 2, 2022, 2:09 PM

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found it, thanks many

torn stream Dec 3, 2022, 1:41 AM

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Im trying to figure out the shading technique used by UE5 for ray tracing. From what I understand, the camera ray tracing outputs in UE5 follow a hybrid raster+ray tracing approach. The entire unshaded scene is rendered into GBuffer textures and then ray tracing is used to do the lighting calculation (shadows, reflections, global illumination, etc). Can you point me to the source code of the ray tracing shaders being used for this purpose? The ones in RayTracingDebug.usf are for different RayTracing debug views in the Unreal Editor viewport. And there are many shader files that look like ray-tracing shaders but I don't know which one is used where.

minor cedar Dec 3, 2022, 3:32 AM

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Hello, i have a small problem in UE 5.1 after i Add the C++ class and compile i get this error

dark spindle Dec 3, 2022, 9:43 AM

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minor cedar Hello, i have a small problem in UE 5.1 after i Add the C++ class and compile i ...

Build in VS with the editor closed. Generally speaking it's not advisable to add classes from the editor IMHO.

lone scaffold Dec 3, 2022, 11:07 AM

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I just can not understand how can people think it is a good idea to name something just UI Framework 😅 It makes me wonder everytime I see commits related to it. https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/blob/adfdd9811c4bc3ef5b973aedf25618edb9d5227c/Engine/Plugins/Experimental/UIFramework/UIFramework.uplugin

thick storm Dec 3, 2022, 1:16 PM

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"Description": "A framework to control UMG from server.",

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considering

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it should called something like ServerUI

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or ServerUMG

cloud chasm Dec 3, 2022, 2:04 PM

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Hello, we're investigating high memory usage issues on our game on a specific platform which has UE_USE_VERYLARGEPAGEALLOCATOR defined to 1: does anybody know what that macro does and what are the implications of defining it to 0?

lone scaffold Dec 3, 2022, 6:30 PM

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thick storm or ServerUMG

or NetUMG / ReplicatedUMG / UMGReplication ... whatever... anything is better than just UI Framework.

full jewel Dec 4, 2022, 7:56 PM

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my friend had that, no idea why but he could download the files in a browser. they end up in the .git\ue4-gitdeps folder and the first 2 characters of the file name is the folder, if it mattered

full jewel Dec 4, 2022, 8:13 PM

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that's what he did over 3? failures then it was fine

heady sparrow Dec 4, 2022, 9:20 PM

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I had this last night... I think their CDN is just dying

heady sparrow Dec 5, 2022, 7:33 AM

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Git hooks version of it works

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At least I assume it does

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My engine build seems alright

candid arch Dec 5, 2022, 11:30 AM

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Hi, I want to compile engine from source and this is my BuildConfiguration.xml but I can't get 100% of my cpu power and it only uses 40%. do you know how can I boost it to max?

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 11:45 AM

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The one on the elft doesn't have debug symbols

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70-80GB is the normal size for the engine

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You kinda need PDBs if you're ever going to release something

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But sure, go ahead and remove them

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Yeah, no way you have debug symbols with a 32GB build

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Some of them still make it through anyway I guess

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70-80GB would be the normal size

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If you never intend to have C++ code or debug crashes, go ahead and strip them

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You really don't want to write code without debug symbols

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And debugging crashes without the engine context is absurd

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You couldn't even debug unreal objects

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🤷

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Guess those 60Gbs are pointless

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 12:15 PM

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If you want the same result you can list all pdbs in the Epic list and whitelist those before removing all the others in a Pythoin script

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Or you can look into options for PDB generation

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Personally I'm just saying, I would never touch an engine build without PDBs

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I'm sure there is

ivory light Dec 5, 2022, 1:20 PM

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Hey everyone,
anyone ever had this problem?

its happens on 5.1 source (setup.bat)

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dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 1:20 PM

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Someone earlier today had the same issue

ivory light Dec 5, 2022, 1:21 PM

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already tried:
Moved the source to the rood of the driver(there is no long path thing),
change baseurl http to https,
tried to -checkout a commite before the december 3(they change few things on the file of dependecies)

ivory light Dec 5, 2022, 1:23 PM

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dark spindle Someone earlier today had the same issue

saw it, the direct download

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 1:23 PM

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Are you on the correct release tag?

ivory light Dec 5, 2022, 1:27 PM

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on 5.1 (not exactly -release)

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we need few things there :/

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 1:33 PM

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Just saying that could be the issue if some dependency broke

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Apparently that happens from time to time

ivory light Dec 5, 2022, 1:34 PM

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yeah, few people its download just fine on setup.bat and others nop :S

vast anchor Dec 5, 2022, 5:37 PM

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Hey, I've build engine from source and I'm trying to follow this guide https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.0/en-US/unreal-engine-5-migration-guide/ to use the UnrealObjectPtrTool, but I just can't find the UHT_Log.txt or any UHT logs anywhere

Unreal Engine 5 Migration Guide

Steps and requirements for migrating your Unreal Engine 4 projects to Unreal Engine 5.

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anyone know why this is?

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 5:46 PM

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Best to completely ignore the tool

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The change is not needed of particularly useful

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You can write new code with the TObjectPtr mechanism if you think it has benefits

vast anchor Dec 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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I'm just now worried why I don't have any UHT logs

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I can see one that was created like a month ago, but nothing since then

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 5:53 PM

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If you build from source they might be in the saved for directly

vast anchor Dec 5, 2022, 6:01 PM

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dark spindle If you build from source they might be in the saved for directly

check everywhere possible, inside the project/saved, inside Engine\Saved\Logs, Engine\Programs\UnrealHeaderTool\Saved\Logs, Engine\Programs\UnrealBuildTool, and both locations in AppData\Local\

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anywhere else I should check?

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 6:06 PM

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That's pretty weird

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You've compiled already?

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AppData\Roaming\Unreal Engine\AutomationTool\Logs is usually the one

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IIRC

vast anchor Dec 5, 2022, 6:08 PM

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yeah, did it multiple times, let me check that one too

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 6:08 PM

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%LOCALAPPDATA%\UnrealHeaderTool\Saved\Logs has stuff for me too but olddd (5.0.2 apparently, discounting both 5.0 source and 5.1 I used fter that)

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Maybe UHT simply doesn't log anymore

vast anchor Dec 5, 2022, 6:14 PM

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Development or DebugGame shouldn't make a difference right?

dark spindle Dec 5, 2022, 6:15 PM

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Don't believe so

vast anchor Dec 5, 2022, 6:17 PM

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I just found this https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/unreal-engine-5-issue-with-setting-up-project/236988

the output for build for their one says
Running UnrealHeaderTool “E:\UE\U E 5\MyProject3\MyProject3.uproject” “E:\UE\U E 5\MyProject3\Intermediate\Build\Win64\MyProject3Editor\Development\MyProject3Editor.uhtmanifest” -LogCmds=“loginit warning, logexit warning, logdatabase error” -Unattended -WarningsAsErrors -abslog=“C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\UnrealBuildTool\Log_UHT.txt”

Epic Developer Community Forums

UNREAL ENGINE 5 issue with setting up project

Hi, I have an issue on the stage of creating a new project in UE5. Although, everything works in UE4. I tried to turn off every security defenders and put the app to the exceptions in Windows Firewall. I get this message : Running E:/Epic_Cache/UE5/UE_5.0EA/Engine/Binaries/DotNET/UnrealBuildTool/UnrealBuildTool.exe Development Win64 -Project...

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it has -abslog=“C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\UnrealBuildTool\Log_UHT.txt

but mine doesn't output that, just

Running Internal UnrealHeaderTool C:\p4\shooter-game\ShooterGame\ShooterGame.uproject C:\p4\shooter-game\ShooterGame\Intermediate\Build\Win64\ShooterGameEditor\DebugGame\ShooterGameEditor.uhtmanifest -WarningsAsErrors

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I get log.txt, and Log_GPF.txt, so it just could be the missing abslog arg

lone scaffold Dec 5, 2022, 11:06 PM

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Interesting

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https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/24dfaad953dc3c770a861a476fe384fa6567a494

languid kayak Dec 5, 2022, 11:38 PM

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lone scaffold Interesting

kinda weird as you can just make a FMassEntityManager struct

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if it's editor only and doesn't explode stuff I'm okay though

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I must be missing something about Mass needing a world, it kind of does need a true outer for the processors I guess...

lone scaffold Dec 5, 2022, 11:45 PM

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yeah, I definitely don't know the background but the new world type just for this purpose is interesting solution

languid kayak Dec 5, 2022, 11:51 PM

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we already have an editor world so I'm kinda wondering if that one gets recreated for each different level viewport?

ornate rose Dec 6, 2022, 2:29 AM

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Any info on skeletal mesh nanite?

drifting turret Dec 6, 2022, 2:43 AM

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Anybody have any idea how feasible would it be to modify UE5 to not unload the map when ClientTravel is called? I'm only ever going to have a single map and I want to make server transitions as seamless as possible.

heady sparrow Dec 6, 2022, 2:52 AM

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ornate rose Any info on skeletal mesh nanite?

at this point you may as well just bookmark the nanite folder on ue5-main

ornate rose Dec 6, 2022, 3:00 AM

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heady sparrow at this point you may as well just bookmark the nanite folder on ue5-main

I don't really log into github that often. I will try to do that but even if I do, I will probably not see it due to a lot of technical stuff that goes on there, and changes and dev stuff. Thats why I always appreciate when someone points out a commit they have made so others can know about it. 🙂

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Will bookmark and see how it goes. Thanks.

nova sleet Dec 6, 2022, 4:52 AM

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I would expect it to come eventually

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it seems like a logical step for Nanite

heady sparrow Dec 6, 2022, 6:23 AM

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They definitely put it down as "future plans" during one of the livestreams

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with WPO it feels like a matter of time, but I'm not really aware of the problem of bending an entire skeleton

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certainly more than just one offset

ornate rose Dec 6, 2022, 7:02 AM

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If it happens for 5.2 that would be a huge game changer. Also likely we may get support for alembic files too. but I feel it would take longer. They are making progress and thats a very good thing.

lethal ember Dec 6, 2022, 9:28 AM

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It seems 5.1 latest has issues with TSoftClassPtr and TSubclassOf. I have some assets linked in a datatable and they are always null when reading them from the table. TSoftObjectPtr works fine. In 5.1 stable they worked. I needed to switch to latest because in stable there is an issue with anim link layers which is fixed in latest. 🥳

iron dome Dec 6, 2022, 11:26 AM

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They'll be null if they aren't loaded yet, right?

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Don't you need to load them?

lethal ember Dec 6, 2022, 11:53 AM

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I do load them. Seems like the soft reference get lost somehow.

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Hm, i don't use spatial loading or data layers, just referencing assets in data tables. Do you have a commit id?

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thx

ivory light Dec 6, 2022, 12:53 PM

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i tried exactly what you told,

and still get the same message as you

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Its after a few tries, it change :S(few like, more then 10 haha).

this new SS is what a stuck now :S

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well, i gonna keep trying, ty by the way !!

warm rover Dec 6, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Hi, anyone known the solution for this UE 5.1 Issue?

Assertion failed: IsValid(Platform) [File:G:\UnrealEngine-5.1.0-release\Engine\Source\Runtime\RHI\Public\RHIDefinitions.h] [Line: 516]

narrow pine Dec 6, 2022, 6:00 PM

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Hello, I'm trying to build unreal from source (linux). When I run ./GenerateProjectFiles.sh I get a bunch of WARNING: Exception while generating include data for UE4Editor: Platform Linux is not a valid platform to build. Check that the SDK is installed properly.

I've tried to download the toolchain from: https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/SharingAndReleasing/Linux/NativeToolchain/ but it didn't make much a difference.
Any idea?

thick storm Dec 6, 2022, 9:58 PM

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anyone tried main today ?

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It broken on some Verse Path thing

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and trying to verify if it is just me..

marble rune Dec 7, 2022, 3:07 AM

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How do we disable HoloLens in an InstalledBuild. I built using Engine\Build\BatchFiles\RunUAT.bat BuildGraph -target="Make Installed Build Win64" -script="Engine/Build/InstalledEngineBuild.xml" -clean -set:HostPlatformOnly=true -set:WithDDC=false but when trying to Package a game I get the following error now: Unhandled exception: One or more errors occurred. (Script module "E:\UE_5.1_Source\Engine\Platforms\Hololens\Binaries\DotNET\AutomationTool\AutomationScripts\Platforms\HoloLens\HoloLens.Automation.dll" not found for record "E:\UE_5.1_Source\Engine\Intermediate\ScriptModules\HoloLens.Automation.json") I thought HostPlatformOnly was supposed to prevent Hololens coming in. This didn't happen on 5.0.3 but since 5.1.0

marble rune Dec 7, 2022, 4:39 AM

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https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/ae9de79b7012fc33df355c8dbfe5096b94545e3c Looks like fixed in main

heady sparrow Dec 7, 2022, 5:18 AM

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marble rune https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/ae9de79b7012fc33df355c8dbfe5096...

thank goodness, I keep getting the INI to appear

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although that might be a different issue

lone scaffold Dec 7, 2022, 9:12 AM

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thick storm It broken on some Verse Path thing

light pewter Dec 7, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Checking dependencies...
Updating dependencies:   0% (0/3)...
Failed to download 'http://cdn.unrealengine.com/dependencies/UnrealEngine-18642449/b645fcb8d128dfacf83e05c83d05cc377a1db7f8': One or more errors occurred. (A task was canceled.) (AggregateException)

Anyone ever had this happen before lol, Setup.bat is failing me

ivory light Dec 7, 2022, 10:49 AM

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Have same problem, i tried to use the solution from b2soft
`Solution was:

Download file by the direct link
Place downloaded file under [root]/.git/ue-gitdeps/[two chars from file name = folder name you need]/place here
rerun setup.bat`

But every time i run the setup.bat, it deleted the files, but tried, -maybe its gonna work there 😄

last swallow Dec 7, 2022, 11:50 AM

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I wonder if anyone in here has seen an error like this before [2022.12.07-11.46.41:826][ 0]LogWindows: Failed to load 'D:/src/arok/Avalon/Binaries/Win64/UnrealEditor-Avalon.dll' (GetLastError=126)
[2022.12.07-11.46.41:826][ 0]LogWindows: Missing import: UnrealEditor-GameplayAbilities.dll

thick storm Dec 7, 2022, 12:06 PM

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lone scaffold Could be related to this: https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/ac69a...

yeah, thanks, pulling some more commits seems to have fixed, it, had bad luck

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IsInParallelGameThread()

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0o

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is that new ?

lone scaffold Dec 7, 2022, 12:24 PM

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did not notice it before but it seems it is used for some stuff even in 5.1

tame rover Dec 7, 2022, 11:15 PM

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Hi maybe anyone have this error "C:/UnrealEngine/Engine/Source/Runtime/CoreUObject/Public/AssetRegistry/AssetDataTagMap.h(36,32): error: use of bitwise '&' with boolean operands [-Werror,-Wbitwise-instead-of-logical]
bool IsEmpty() const { return Class.IsNone() & Package.IsNone() & Object.IsNone(); } //-V792"im building the top down template with UE5.0.3 source code version. i'm trying to change the bitwise operator to && but the error happens in every line that check with bitwise , and in source code versions still using & or |, maybe is my 2022 VS version, any help is appreciated 😄

light pewter Dec 8, 2022, 1:58 AM

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ivory light Have same problem, i tried to use the solution from b2soft `Solution was: 1. Do...

Hah funny, I had tried the exact same thing, but yeah the added file just gets deleted

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quite frustrating

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whenever it resyncs I think it matches the directory with what it expects or something

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are you adding the file after the error or before you run the batch?

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huh yeah weird, it just deletes the file for me when I do that

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you're extracting it right?

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Not just putting the .gz itself there?

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I'm also on windows

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the cdn link from the error gives me a .gz download

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ah ok i'l give that a go then maybe

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huh weird

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ya mine is giving a .gz

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and then if extracted I get the actual file

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so odd lol

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you using chrome?

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ah interesting

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that's the same size as the .gz for me lol

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wth

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yep same link I download from

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ima try summin

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yeh

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that's what I just tried aha

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Lol I think that worked

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🤔

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yeah

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Fix for 5.1 source build setup batch failure.```
Checking dependencies...
Updating dependencies: 0% (0/3)...
Failed to download 'http://cdn.unrealengine.com/dependencies/UnrealEngine-18642449/b645fcb8d128dfacf83e05c83d05cc377a1db7f8': One or more errors occurred. (A task was canceled.) (AggregateException)

Download the blob url mentioned in the error manually in a browser, in this case:
http://cdn.unrealengine.com/dependencies/UnrealEngine-18642449/b645fcb8d128dfacf83e05c83d05cc377a1db7f8

If the file has the `.gz` extension, rename the file and remove the `.gz` extension so that it shows as just `File`.
If the file has no `.gz` extension, you can skip this step.

Copy the file to `[EngineDirectory]\.git\ue-gitdeps\b6` or whichever subdirectory in `ue-gitdeps` that the blob file is prefixed with, aka in this case it's `b6`

Run `Setup.bat`

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Deffo worked for me

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@nova sleet Might wanna pin this one perhaps? ^

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Cheers @torn cypress <3

nova sleet Dec 8, 2022, 2:17 AM

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light pewter Fix for 5.1 source build setup batch failure.``` Checking dependencies... Updati...

full jewel Dec 8, 2022, 2:19 AM

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that was an observation i made of it them all being the same

light pewter Dec 8, 2022, 2:21 AM

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There we go I updated the pin incase it fails for people with other blobs breaking

heady sparrow Dec 8, 2022, 3:03 AM

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Thankfully for me it just... started working after a few tries

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I really wonder what happened

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I could be missing some random dll still for all I know

narrow pine Dec 8, 2022, 6:44 AM

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Hello, I've compiled unreal from source and it assign a random GUID as engine name. I would like to set 4.27 how can I do that?

narrow pine Dec 8, 2022, 8:10 AM

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I've tried to set BuildId and BuildVersion into Build.version as specified here: https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/ProductionPipelines/BuildTools/UnrealBuildTool/VersioningofBinaries/

Then I've genereated the project files again, but I've no luck... I can't customize the binary version

narrow pine Dec 8, 2022, 8:49 AM

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@torn cypress I'm on Linux, can you explain the procedure on Windows? I'll try to figure out the Linux procedure from that

crystal swan Dec 8, 2022, 9:23 AM

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Anyone have issues with building 5.1 from the github? I have a problem with PixelCapture plugin which I don't need btw...

1>[1/8] Compile Module.PixelCapture.cpp 1>D:\UnrealEngine-5.1\Engine\Plugins\Media\PixelCapture\Source\PixelCapture\Private\PixelCaptureUtils.h(139): error C2512: "FViewInfo": niedostępny odpowiedni konstruktor domyślny 1>D:\UnrealEngine-5.1\Engine\Source\Runtime\Renderer\Private\SceneRendering.h(1159): note: zobacz deklarację "FViewInfo" 1>D:\UnrealEngine-5.1\Engine\Plugins\Media\PixelCapture\Source\PixelCapture\Private\PixelCaptureUtils.h(140): error C2280: "FViewInfo &FViewInfo::operator =(const FViewInfo &)": próba odwania do usuniętej funkcji 1>D:\UnrealEngine-5.1\Engine\Source\Runtime\Renderer\Private\SceneRendering.h(1758): note: w tym miejscu kompilator wygenerował "FViewInfo::operator =" 1>D:\UnrealEngine-5.1\Engine\Source\Runtime\Renderer\Private\SceneRendering.h(1758): note: "FViewInfo &FViewInfo::operator =(const FViewInfo &)": Funkcja została niejawnie usunięta, ponieważ element klasa bazowa wywołuje usuniętą lub niedostępną funkcję "FSceneView &FSceneView::operator =(const FSceneView &)"

narrow pine Dec 8, 2022, 9:53 AM

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@torn cypress Do you know the exact script .bat that generates those registries?

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@torn cypress Do you mean like using this command: RunUAT.bat UpdateLocalVersion [-CL=INT] [-CompatibleCL=INT] [-Build=STRING] [-SkipHeader] [-Licensee] [-Promoted=BOOL] [-Branch=STRING] ?
Source: https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/ProgrammingAndScripting/ProgrammingWithCPP/UnrealArchitecture/VersioningAssetsAndPackages/

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Ok, I'll try to investigate more using these new info. Thanks a lot 🙂

unreal quiver Dec 8, 2022, 10:14 AM

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i want to get a normal from a impact point on the Skeletal mesh but Line trace with Visibility channel is not Detecting a hit Any suggestion Other than using Physics Assets?

ivory light Dec 8, 2022, 12:55 PM

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oh thank you everyone, i extract the gz -_-, understood now!, thank you all!

wise hazel Dec 8, 2022, 5:09 PM

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Hello y'all. Don't know if I'm asking this on the right place, but here it goes:
I'm trying to make an Installed Build for use here in the studio, and it works, albeit build sizes are incredible large (87.5 gb). Mostly due to the plugins folder (around 58 gb) and mostly for the python foundation packages (10.7 gb). Are there any build options to reduce the size of this? Downloaded builds take around 35 gb if stripped down to the minimun.
This is my current build command:
RunUAT.bat BuildGraph -target="Make Installed Build Win64" -script="Engine/Build/InstalledEngineBuild.xml" -set:HostPlatformOnly=true -set:HostPlatformEditorOnly=true -set:WithDDC=false -set:HostPlatformDDCOnly=false -set:WithFullDebugInfo=false -set:AllowParallelExecutor=true -clean

wise hazel Dec 8, 2022, 7:33 PM

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thanks a lot, guys

wise hazel Dec 9, 2022, 7:32 AM

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a true point

tepid star Dec 9, 2022, 5:28 PM

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just built from source last night ( 5.1.0-release tag ), opened a project I had made with downloadedable release 5.1. Everything builds perfectly fine and runs -- but in the game I get this? I literally just cleaned/rebuilt that particular like 3 times and still get this message?

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going to try it with few different configuration profiles, see if it resolves

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fixed. went to Debug --> built --> then back to "Development" built

fading dagger Dec 9, 2022, 11:43 PM

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Hey guys, I recently pulled the Engine Source from Git for 5.1, I ran Setup and the Generate Batch scripts. I compiled the engine in VS using Debug Editor. It Compiled successfully but for some reason when I start with debugger I see the windows terminal flash and the Engine doesn't boot up?

tepid star Dec 9, 2022, 11:45 PM

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what config you have selected?

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fading dagger Dec 9, 2022, 11:45 PM

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I tried Development Editor and DebugGame Editor.

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both seem to behave the same

tepid star Dec 9, 2022, 11:45 PM

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how about Ctrl F5 to not attach debugger? just to see if it runs?

fading dagger Dec 9, 2022, 11:46 PM

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I run the debugger and it starts but I just seen the Windows terminal flash and then nothing happens

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Tried both

tepid star Dec 9, 2022, 11:46 PM

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oh ok, not sure buddy

fading dagger Dec 9, 2022, 11:46 PM

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yea it's really weird

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I am recompiling

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to see

fading dagger Dec 10, 2022, 12:23 AM

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I got it working

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super weird

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thanks @tepid star

drifting zephyr Dec 10, 2022, 3:48 AM

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quick question, how can i use incredibuild to build UE4.27?

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 3:49 AM

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The real question is, do you want to?

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Do you have a license?

drifting zephyr Dec 10, 2022, 3:50 AM

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yep

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 3:52 AM

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If you've installed it as a component in VS, it should just work?

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At least, when I inastlled it by mistake it kept trying to use it until I specifically disabled it.

drifting zephyr Dec 10, 2022, 3:54 AM

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just keeps giving me this through VS: 1> Creating makefile for UE4Editor (no existing makefile) 1> Distributing 49 actions to XGE 1> EXEC : Fatal error : An Incredibuild distributed job cannot be started from within another distributed job.

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ill try looking at the build config .xml and see if i could fix it

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 3:59 AM

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Have you tried googling the error message or whatnot?

drifting zephyr Dec 10, 2022, 4:01 AM

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iron dome Have you tried googling the error message or whatnot?

sorta, looked through incredibuild docs and it stated that i may have to edit the build config .xml

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 4:02 AM

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Ah lol

hidden hedge Dec 10, 2022, 8:21 AM

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drifting zephyr yep

someone has deep pockets for something of questionable utility

heady sparrow Dec 10, 2022, 8:32 AM

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with a nice ryzen the entire default win64 engine builds in 20 minutes

south vortex Dec 10, 2022, 8:43 AM

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heady sparrow with a nice ryzen the entire default win64 engine builds in 20 minutes

Really? What Ryzen does this? Might be time for me to upgrade after all…

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 8:47 AM

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The ThreadRipper will do it in 10

heady sparrow Dec 10, 2022, 8:56 AM

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7950x

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mind you, this is only default plugins and win64 platform only

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but that's good enough for me

haughty warren Dec 10, 2022, 10:42 AM

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Does anyone know how to fix this?

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I have problems in certain files, but "All Solution Files" shows "No Problems Found"

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 10:42 AM

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Do you want problems?

haughty warren Dec 10, 2022, 10:43 AM

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This makes Rider so unusable, and I can't find a way to fix it

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 10:44 AM

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🆚

haughty warren Dec 10, 2022, 10:44 AM

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Rider is so much better though D:

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 10:44 AM

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Apparently not...

tepid star Dec 10, 2022, 3:50 PM

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Are there architecture documents / flow charts around the networking guts of the engine?

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mostly interested in attempting to offload as much of the math to the GPU on a dedicated server

iron dome Dec 10, 2022, 3:52 PM

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I'm not sure that'll be entirely possible if you mean to offload networking...

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But check the pinned messages in #multiplayer for a networking compendium.

crude light Dec 10, 2022, 4:52 PM

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I fixed many issues in the IK Retargeting toolchain for UE5.1. Now it is way more smooth for complex systems like ALS
https://youtu.be/uDtcb484DDI

YouTube

tuatec

TTToolbox - UE5.1 IK Retargeting Fixes | #UE5 Devlog #5

I am currently moving slowly to UE5.1 and thought to give retargeting a try there as well. But I am still stepping into the same issues like in UE5.0. Within this video I will talk a little bit about those issues and show you a first preview of the fixes.

Stay tuned for the next videos, I will show you as well how you can get IK Retargeting wor...

▶ Play video

agile plover Dec 10, 2022, 5:28 PM

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Morning, I've been trying to import some files (got it to work once, then deleted it like an idiot), now it gives me this error ANYTIME I try to import it ANYWHERE. It's a building.
Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x00000000000003e3

UnrealEditor_Engine
UnrealEditor_Engine
UnrealEditor_Engine
UnrealEditor_Engine
UnrealEditor_Engine
UnrealEditor
UnrealEditor
UnrealEditor
UnrealEditor
UnrealEditor
UnrealEditor
kernel32
ntdll
It's an fbx file btw
The datasmith doesn't work because it looks for the MISSING static meshes

haughty warren Dec 10, 2022, 7:08 PM

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I'm wondering if I screwed something up when I set up my custom engine... it takes like 1.5 minutes to even get to the actual "compiling". And then it compiles the code almost immediately. Is this normal?

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It spends a lot of time, everytime, creating makefiles, excluding unity files and building some internal stuff I don't understand

crude light Dec 10, 2022, 7:24 PM

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Exactly what I will publish soon and builds for windows

dark spindle Dec 10, 2022, 7:44 PM

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Reading the EULA is indeed worthwhile before releasing anything

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Well, getting your lawyer to read it

full jewel Dec 10, 2022, 8:14 PM

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haughty warren It spends a lot of time, everytime, creating makefiles, excluding unity files an...

from my experience its processing the intermediate folder to find changes/whatever, usually from a cold start

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takes a while even with a project, in which case its usually faster to just delete it (intermediate folder). for the engine it would be a full rebuild again. solid state makes it a lot faster i think

agile plover Dec 10, 2022, 10:58 PM

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I have no idea what those acronyms are for dawg.

iron dome Dec 11, 2022, 12:09 AM

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it's a lot of Ghost Beavers.

heady sparrow Dec 11, 2022, 6:49 AM

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I'm guessing class redirectors to deprecate/rename plugin classes are not a thing?

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for engine PRs

meager badge Dec 11, 2022, 10:33 PM

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source code compiled but how do i start it

iron dome Dec 11, 2022, 10:35 PM

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f5

meager badge Dec 11, 2022, 10:38 PM

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iron dome f5

There is no icon to start ue4 just ue4.sln is this what should exist?

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iron dome Dec 11, 2022, 10:40 PM

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Open the sln, compile it, run it.

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Make sure you run setup.bat before doing that.

meager badge Dec 11, 2022, 10:41 PM

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iron dome Make sure you run setup.bat _before_ doing that.

i compiled

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it didn't give any errors but it doesn't work

iron dome Dec 11, 2022, 10:44 PM

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Define "doesn't work"

meager badge Dec 11, 2022, 10:45 PM

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iron dome Define "doesn't work"

cmd opens and then closes

iron dome Dec 11, 2022, 10:46 PM

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What cmd? How are you running it?

meager badge Dec 11, 2022, 10:49 PM

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f5

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shuts down after running

iron dome Dec 11, 2022, 10:50 PM

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Right click on the UE4 project on the left and do 'set as startup project'

meager badge Dec 11, 2022, 10:53 PM

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iron dome Right click on the UE4 project on the left and do 'set as startup project'

D:\UnrealEngine-4.27-plus\Engine\Intermediate\ProjectFiles\UE4.vcxproj : warning : 'UE4' Cannot find platform 'arm64' referenced in project build.

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it gave an error like this

iron dome Dec 11, 2022, 10:53 PM

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That I can't help with.

storm turret Dec 12, 2022, 2:48 AM

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Hey, I'm trying to build a package in UE5 and I'm getting LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'delayimp.lib'

I know how to fix this issue in Visual Studio, but I have no idea how to fix this from the Unreal Editor

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 3:37 AM

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storm turret Hey, I'm trying to build a package in UE5 and I'm getting ```LINK : fatal error ...

run setup.bat

storm turret Dec 12, 2022, 4:00 AM

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heady sparrow run setup.bat

This is a version from the launcher, I don't have a setup.bat, but I have regenerated the project files. I don't have this issue building from Visual Studio, but when I try to build anything in the editor I get the library editor

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:01 AM

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storm turret This is a version from the launcher, I don't have a setup.bat, but I have regene...

oh, this is for the engine source

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but you probably just need something from the Visual Studio Installer

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check for VS updates and make sure you have the right build tools/sdk stuff

iron dome Dec 12, 2022, 4:02 AM

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storm turret This is a version from the launcher, I don't have a setup.bat, but I have regene...

Do you mean package from the editor or build the project in the editor?

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:03 AM

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googling says it's an older build tool version

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which I would suggest doing next time to save some time

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/fatal-error-lnk1181-cannot-open-input-file-delayimp-lib-in-association-with-attempting-to-create-a-new-plugin-from-a-ue5-provided-template/560614/2

storm turret Dec 12, 2022, 4:04 AM

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Oh, gotcha. My bad. Um...How would I determine what I need? I've tried a bunch of different versions of Windows SDK and MSVC, none of them seem to address the issue in the editor...but it's working fine in VS. If I can narrow it down I can install whatever I need

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:04 AM

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the "C++ game development" preset should have what you need... let me see

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just try checking for updates to start

storm turret Dec 12, 2022, 4:05 AM

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Yea I've run back a few versions already. Not sure how far back I need to go to get this to work. I didnt have this issue until reformatting my machine last week. I'll keep running through versions to see if I can't find one that works

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I appreciate the assist

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:05 AM

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another fun issue: check your env paths

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it might be a dead msbuild path

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your project wants an msbuild version that isn't there is my guess

storm turret Dec 12, 2022, 4:06 AM

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I'll take a look, thanks for the tip

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:07 AM

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if you see an env path to an msbuild version that isn't actually there, delete it

storm turret Dec 12, 2022, 4:39 AM

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heady sparrow if you see an env path to an msbuild version that isn't actually there, delete i...

Oh man, you're a genius. Looked at my paths and there were no references to it, when I added one the build told me it was still missing. Looked in the folder and somehow it was pulling an arm version and that library was indeed missing. Nuked it and re-installed latest x86 and we're in business

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:39 AM

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we had someone else with a similar issue after a reinstall

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it's kind of hard to track down all the little paths is likes to try

storm turret Dec 12, 2022, 4:40 AM

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Yea no joke. I must have fat fingered an arm install somehow. I really don't remember doing it, and it's a fresh install. Oh well, another thing I know to look out for now!

heady sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:40 AM

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glad it worked out

thick storm Dec 12, 2022, 10:17 AM

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https://benui.ca/unreal/what-is-verse/

ben🌱ui

What's the deal with Verse?

No boolean? Const everything? Out-of-order evaluation?

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okay

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im going on rant

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based on speculation

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that variable with type declaration

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wtf

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you try to make languague to script, which should be easier and you make it harder for parser

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to emmit meangful errors

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there is reason why modern languages define variables like this:

var a:int;

Because it makes for parse explicit that this variable a of type,

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without need to know context of

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C++ is ridden if context sensitive parts, where parsers need full context to guess that is going on

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int a

can be just as well start of function declaration

south vortex Dec 12, 2022, 10:33 AM

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probably a discussion better suited to #lounge - there's some discussions going on there already IRC

iron dome Dec 12, 2022, 11:34 AM

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thick storm there is reason why modern languages define variables like this: ``` var a:int; ...

To be fair, as long as nothing else uses the x:y; syntax, it's very explicit.

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You don't need to say var when the very use of the colon and semi colon do the work for it.

high epoch Dec 12, 2022, 7:43 PM

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Did anyone experience this situation where BP won't open with the error below?
LogStall: Stall detector 'UAssetEditorSubsystem::OpenEditorForAsset' exceeded budget of 2.000000s, reporting...

It's not happening if I run with the debugger.

coarse canyon Dec 12, 2022, 8:35 PM

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Ive seen this happen yes, and took me awhile to track it down. Its because when you are loading a BP when opening it, it will go and load every single asset being hard references from the one you are opening. In the situation I had, some other BPs being referenced had errors which caused this hang.

high epoch Dec 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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I see, so even though it affects all or most BPs it's actually because of an error in a specific one?

coarse canyon Dec 12, 2022, 10:13 PM

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high epoch I see, so even though it affects all or most BPs it's actually because of an err...

That was the cause of my issue at least, can't say if its the same in your case. Try finding references to the asset you are trying to open and see if they are all ok.

wooden flame Dec 13, 2022, 7:32 AM

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hi, why some day randomly when working with source build, i open the vsproj and have to rebuild the engine

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and sometimes this breaks some things

quick mica Dec 13, 2022, 9:34 AM

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wooden flame hi, why some day randomly when working with source build, i open the vsproj and ...

well did you maybe change some files unintentionally?

crystal parcel Dec 13, 2022, 1:32 PM

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Hi!
We recently switched from UE4.27 to 5.0.3 source.
But since then, when I modify a simple source file from any of my game modules.
It does not only recompile this module like it uses to (Building 6 actions ...) but also wants to recompile way many more modules that it is not supposed to need (Building 1227 actions ...).
It make iterating on the project very slow.
Any idea where it can come from? Did someone encounter a similar behavior?

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One of the change I saw on the visual studio build output logs:
Before

1>Target Build:
1>  Task "VCMessage" skipped, due to false condition; ('$(NMakeBuildCommandLine)'=='') was evaluated as ('C:\projects\workspace\Muffin\UnrealEngine\Engine\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat -Target="MuffinEditor Win64 Development -Project=\"C:\projects\workspace\Muffin\Game\Muffin.uproject\"" -Target="ShaderCompileWorker Win64 Development -Quiet" -WaitMutex -FromMsBuild -2019'=='').
1>  Using "Exec" task from assembly "Microsoft.Build.Tasks.Core, Version=15.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=aaaaaaa".
1>  Task "Exec"
1>    C:\projects\workspace\Muffin\UnrealEngine\Engine\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat -Target="MuffinEditor Win64 Development -Project=\"C:\projects\workspace\Muffin\Game\Muffin.uproject\"" -Target="ShaderCompileWorker Win64 Development -Quiet" -WaitMutex -FromMsBuild -2019
1>    Parsing headers for MuffinEditor
1>      Running UnrealHeaderTool "C:\projects\workspace\Muffin\Game\Muffin.uproject" "C:\projects\workspace\Muffin\Game\Intermediate\Build\Win64\MuffinEditor\Development\MuffinEditor.uhtmanifest" -LogCmds="loginit warning, logexit warning, logdatabase error" -Unattended -WarningsAsErrors -abslog="C:\projects\workspace\Muffin\UnrealEngine\Engine\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\Log_UHT.txt"
1>    LogInit: Display: Loading text-based GConfig....
1>    Reflection code generated for MuffinEditor in 5.6863081 seconds
1>    Building MuffinEditor and ShaderCompileWorker...
1>    Using Visual Studio 2019 14.29.30147 toolchain (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2019\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.29.30133) and Windows 10.0.18362.0 SDK (C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10).
1>    Building 9 actions with 16 processes...
1>      [1/9] Module.Muffin.gen.6_of_34.cpp

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After:

1>Target Build:
1>  Task "VCMessage" skipped, due to false condition; ('$(NMakeBuildCommandLine)'=='') was evaluated as ('C:\project\UnrealEngine\Engine\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat -Target="MuffinEditor Win64 Development -Project=\"C:\project\Game\Muffin.uproject\"" -Target="ShaderCompileWorker Win64 Development -Quiet" -WaitMutex -FromMsBuild -2019'=='').
1>  Using "Exec" task from assembly "Microsoft.Build.Tasks.Core, Version=15.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=aaaaaaa".
1>  Task "Exec"
1>    C:\project\UnrealEngine\Engine\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat -Target="MuffinEditor Win64 Development -Project=\"C:\project\Game\Muffin.uproject\"" -Target="ShaderCompileWorker Win64 Development -Quiet" -WaitMutex -FromMsBuild -2019
1>    Using bundled DotNet SDK
1>    Log file: C:\project\UnrealEngine\Engine\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\Log.txt
1>    Creating makefile for MuffinEditor (UnrealBuildTool assembly is newer)
1>    Muffin.Build.cs: MuffinEditor Editor Development Win64
1>    MuffinEditor.Build.cs: MuffinEditor Editor Development Win64
1>    Creating makefile for UnrealHeaderTool (UnrealBuildTool assembly is newer)
1>    Parsing headers for MuffinEditor

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1>      Running UnrealHeaderTool "C:\project\Game\Muffin.uproject" "C:\project\Game\Intermediate\Build\Win64\MuffinEditor\Development\MuffinEditor.uhtmanifest" -LogCmds="loginit warning, logexit warning, logdatabase error" -Unattended -WarningsAsErrors -abslog="C:\project\UnrealEngine\Engine\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\Log_UHT.txt"
1>    Reflection code generated for MuffinEditor in 7.3818629 seconds
1>    Creating makefile for ShaderCompileWorker (UnrealBuildTool assembly is newer)
1>    Building MuffinEditor and ShaderCompileWorker...
1>    Using Visual Studio 2019 14.29.30147 toolchain (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2019\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.29.30133) and Windows 10.0.18362.0 SDK (C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10).
1>    [Adaptive Build] Excluded from Muffin unity file: SocialChannel.cpp
1>    [Adaptive Build] Excluded from ProjectLauncher unity file: SProjectLauncherBuildPage.cpp, SProjectLauncherBuildTaskSettings.cpp
1>    Determining max actions to execute in parallel (8 physical cores, 16 logical cores)
1>      Executing up to 8 processes, one per physical core
1>    Building 1227 actions with 8 processes...
1>    [1/1227] Compile Module.Engine.gen.45_of_81.cpp

tired bolt Dec 13, 2022, 1:44 PM

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Mmm, I didn't check with 5.0.3 sources recently, but I don't have this issue now days on 5.1 or ue5-main
your issue here is

1> Creating makefile for MuffinEditor (UnrealBuildTool assembly is newer)
1> Creating makefile for UnrealHeaderTool (UnrealBuildTool assembly is newer)

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I remember something now @crystal parcel I think it's the way you generate the project files, let me grab my own scripts 🙂

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Mmm, ok, I am not sure after all, I wrote this some months ago when I had issues from UE4 to UE5
something with -Rocket to replace with -Engine...
https://github.com/SRombautsU/UE5PlasticPluginDev/blob/master/GenerateProjectFiles.bat
But I don't think you are using that (from memory)

crystal parcel Dec 13, 2022, 1:53 PM

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Yes I'm using:
UnrealEngine/Engine/Binaries/DotNET/UnrealBuildTool/UnrealBuildTool.exe -projectfiles -project="%PROJECT_PATH%/Muffin.uproject" -game -engine -2019 -Automated
But maybe it's a deprecated way of generating the solution, I'll dig into the UE doc to see what they recommend nowadays.

tired bolt Dec 13, 2022, 2:16 PM

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crystal parcel Yes I'm using: `UnrealEngine/Engine/Binaries/DotNET/UnrealBuildTool/UnrealBuild...

Just right click on Muffin.uproject and use Generate Visual Studio project files and you will get the proper command line, that should be nearly the same as yours.
Eg from binary release

Running C:/Program Files/Epic Games/UE_5.1/Engine/Build/BatchFiles/Build.bat -projectfiles -project="C:/Workspace/UE5PlasticPluginDev/UE5PlasticPluginDev.uproject" -game -rocket -progress

crystal parcel Dec 13, 2022, 2:17 PM

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I also have this Using bundled DotNet SDK in the logs that I didn't have before, so maybe it's not using the right dotnet version and that is causing issues 🤔

tired bolt Dec 13, 2022, 2:17 PM

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I am personally using this one atm (but I'll check and report against the source engine build)

"C:\Program Files\Epic Games\UE_5.1"\Engine\Binaries\DotNET\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.exe C:\Workspace\UE5PlasticPluginDev\UE5PlasticPluginDev.uproject -ProjectFiles -Game -Engine

tired bolt Dec 13, 2022, 2:18 PM

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crystal parcel I also have this `Using bundled DotNet SDK` in the logs that I didn't have befor...

Using bundled DotNet SDK
I have noticed the same, with no issue.

tired bolt Dec 13, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Doing a full clean build to test the thing locally

PS C:\Workspace\UnrealEngine> git clean -fdx
PS C:\Workspace\UnrealEngine> .\Setup.bat
Checking dependencies...
Updating dependencies: 100% (88498/88498), 21041.2/21041.2 MiB | 15.41 MiB/s, done.
Registering git hooks...
Installing prerequisites...
PS C:\Workspace\UnrealEngine> .\GenerateProjectFiles.bat
Setting up Unreal Engine 5 project files...
Using bundled DotNet SDK
Building UnrealBuildTool...
Log file: C:\Workspace\UnrealEngine\Engine\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\Log_GPF.txt

Some Platforms were skipped due to invalid SDK setup: Mac, IOS, Android, Linux, LinuxArm64, TVOS.
See the log file for detailed information

Binding IntelliSense data... 100%
Writing project files... 100%

then

C:\Workspace\UE5Dev>"C:\Workspace\UnrealEngine\Engine\Binaries\DotNET\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.exe" C:\Workspace\UE5Dev\UE5Dev.uproject -ProjectFiles -Game -Engine

mossy bough Dec 13, 2022, 3:07 PM

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I am trying to build unreal engine 4 from source using a zip tagged "'versionnumber' -release". here are there errors I am getting. Does anyone understand what I need to do to fix this mess?

Could firewall cause these issues? 32gb ram, i tried turning on paging file, does not seem to do anything.

Lmk if I should be posting elsewhere

crystal parcel Dec 13, 2022, 3:27 PM

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@mossy bough can you look inside your Engine\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\Log_UHT.txt log and search for LogMemory ?

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It can also be a disk space issue.

mossy bough Dec 13, 2022, 3:51 PM

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crystal parcel <@936152077883801641> can you look inside your `Engine\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\...

such a txt file does not exist, there is a log.txt but there is no mention of "logmemory" in it I have tried building at 160-180gb and now at 90gb.

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Tried adding another w10 sdk, and going 24 threads to 1.

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Tried putting additional options value to /Zm90 /Zm2000 /Zm200 /Zm75 if anything seemed to crash the process with lower values. (In project pages under NMake there is intellisense->additional options and it says /std:c++14 I tried removing that and putting /Zm20000 and also /Zm200 or /zm75)

crystal parcel Dec 13, 2022, 3:54 PM

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How big is your Windows page file?

mossy bough Dec 13, 2022, 3:55 PM

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I put it to let the OS manage it.

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Should I delete the .vs folder after each failed build attempt?

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What I do is I right click UE4 in the solution explorer and click set as startup project and then right click ue4 again -> build.

full jewel Dec 13, 2022, 6:51 PM

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it makes fairly heavy use of the temp folder and i needed a 30gb page file to not get heap errors even with 64gb of ram. sometimes it will get past it if you keep trying. you may also need to actually restart the system if its really stuck, that helped one time for some reason

thick storm Dec 13, 2022, 9:22 PM

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we are officialy saved

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mossy bough Dec 14, 2022, 2:41 AM

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full jewel it makes fairly heavy use of the temp folder and i needed a 30gb page file to no...

Thanks guys, this worked.

Which files can I delete or if I want to move the now built UE elsewhere, which folder(s) should I move or which folders can I delete to regain space? Are all the files relating to the completed installation of UE in the binaries/win64 folder and everything else can be deleted?

wooden flame Dec 14, 2022, 11:35 AM

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quick mica well did you maybe change some files unintentionally?

nope, not at all, and everything is working exactly the same. It is just to recompile for some reason. I guess when shuting down pc some temp files or something

quick mica Dec 14, 2022, 2:57 PM

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wooden flame nope, not at all, and everything is working exactly the same. It is just to reco...

On windows side, Unreal uses Git to check if smth has changed in the source files, usually you need to "recompile" the engine if:
you change a widely uses header, like Actor.h
or You change smth on your build envirinment, updated your compiler and stuff like this

wooden flame Dec 14, 2022, 3:56 PM

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quick mica On windows side, Unreal uses Git to check if smth has changed in the source file...

hmmm interesing, so it will be that, because i always update the pc when i see the option in shutdown settings. Thanks!

quick mica Dec 14, 2022, 3:58 PM

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Not PC(Windows) update, Visual Studio Updates

wooden flame Dec 14, 2022, 4:00 PM

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ams

thick storm Dec 14, 2022, 7:24 PM

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remember Skein ?

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It seems it is well and alive

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and is developed on Fortnite/Valkyrie stream

vital hawk Dec 14, 2022, 7:30 PM

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thick storm remember Skein ?

We were just talking about in #source-control, thanks for the heads up

lone scaffold Dec 14, 2022, 9:00 PM

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thick storm remember Skein ?

There was recently a commit modifying default check out behavior of assets because of UEFN. Because of it, I assume Skein might be VCS for Fortnite Creative 2.0.

thick storm Dec 14, 2022, 9:00 PM

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yeah my thoughts, I hope just like Verse it is going to eventualy be in mainline

lone scaffold Dec 14, 2022, 9:01 PM

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As I doubt they would require modders and gamers use Perforce or similar VCS 😅

languid kayak Dec 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

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It's definitely scary to use a new VCS

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I don't think anyone will touch it for a year or two

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(outside of epic)

thick storm Dec 14, 2022, 9:46 PM

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im going to touch as soon as it is released

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count on me to get you info how quickly in breaks

languid kayak Dec 14, 2022, 10:06 PM

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By anyone I mean serious big projects

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Of course we will all jump on it 😄

quick flax Dec 14, 2022, 10:13 PM

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does anyone know how to fix this error

C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\Shared\EpicGames.Build\EpicGames.Build.csproj : error NU1102: Unable
 to find package Microsoft.CSharp with version (>= 4.7.0) [C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBui
ldTool\UnrealBuildTool.csproj]
C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\Shared\EpicGames.Build\EpicGames.Build.csproj : error NU1102:   - Fo
und 1 version(s) in Microsoft Visual Studio Offline Packages [ Nearest version: 4.0.1 ] [C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\En
gine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.csproj]
C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\Shared\EpicGames.MsBuild\EpicGames.MsBuild.csproj : error NU1101: Un
able to find package Microsoft.Build. No packages exist with this id in source(s): Microsoft Visual Studio Offline Pack
ages [C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.csproj]
C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\Shared\EpicGames.Build\EpicGames.Build.csproj : error NU1102: Unable
 to find package Microsoft.Win32.Registry with version (>= 5.0.0) [C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\U
nrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.csproj]
C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\Shared\EpicGames.Build\EpicGames.Build.csproj : error NU1102:   - Fo
und 1 version(s) in Microsoft Visual Studio Offline Packages [ Nearest version: 4.0.0 ] [C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\En
gine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.csproj]
C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\Shared\EpicGames.UHT\EpicGames.UHT.csproj : error NU1102: Unable to
find package Microsoft.CSharp with version (>= 4.7.0) [C:\Users\billg\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTo
ol\UnrealBuildTool.csproj]

solid saffron Dec 15, 2022, 5:08 AM

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Hey, anyone aware of the input backend unreal uses for the editor? I'm trying to track down why the cursor events are offset upwards by the height of my titlebar with (at least) my window manager

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But I can't figure out where it actually gets its mouse positions from

solid saffron Dec 15, 2022, 6:57 AM

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Nevermind, seems it does. Didn't find exactly what was causing the issues though. Seems like Unreal expects a mouse position from the top left of the titlebar rather than the top left of its inner window

finite urchin Dec 15, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Hey I am unable to build source file because I don't have vs2019 installed but I cannot find a valid download link for vs2019. Is it possible to build ue4 using vs2022?

iron dome Dec 15, 2022, 4:12 PM

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https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/

Visual Studio

Visual Studio Older Downloads - 2019, 2017, 2015 & Previous Versions

Download previous versions of Visual Studio Community, Professional, and Enterprise softwares. Sign into your Visual Studio (MSDN) subscription here.

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Your google fu is bad.

thick storm Dec 15, 2022, 7:59 PM

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possible

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doing for past year

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i'd say it's pretty safe to ditch 2019

south vortex Dec 16, 2022, 12:05 AM

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5.1 is now for vs2022

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(although its not default)

heady sparrow Dec 16, 2022, 12:52 AM

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Aren't build tools are the real issue, you could just downgrade those afaik

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I've been on 2022 for a while even on 4.26

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 2:58 AM

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mossy wave found it, thanks many

Hey there, I was wondering if assigning a custom identifier like this made your installed build have a consistent id, or if every user that you distributed the installed build to needed to do the registry edit?

mossy wave Dec 16, 2022, 3:13 AM

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leaden birch Hey there, I was wondering if assigning a custom identifier like this made your ...

the latter one, somewhere in the uproject launcher, says if the build is not a binary build from epic store, and the engine entry is not found in your registry, generates a random GUID for it

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so by assigning the custom identifier to the registry, it will treat it as if it already assigned an id to it

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 3:15 AM

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Ah, I see. Do you get around it and make it easier for your installing users by including a .reg or .bat to do it for them?

mossy wave Dec 16, 2022, 3:16 AM

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i made a wiki for them to follow 😅

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 3:16 AM

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Oh all good, thanks for the info!
At the very least I know it's something I'll need to consider once I get this damn thing working

mossy wave Dec 16, 2022, 3:19 AM

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DesktopWindowsPlatform.cpp: line 313
if you are wondering where it assigns the random guid, for windows platform atleast

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i figured since we also have mac users, i ended up reverting to the binary 4.27, and have my custom stuff made 'optional'

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 3:21 AM

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Oh, that could be useful. I may find a workaround there ^^

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If anyone has happened to come across this and has a solve for it, help would be much appreciated.

My installed build keeps failing during its linux target platform generation, with this error:

UnrealBuildTool.Main: CompilationResultException: Error: OtherCompilationError
UnrealBuildTool.Main:    at UnrealBuildTool.ActionGraph.ExecuteActions(BuildConfiguration BuildConfiguration, List`1 ActionsToExecute) in D:\Unreal Source D\Oculus 4.27\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\System\ActionGraph.cs:line 234
UnrealBuildTool.Main:    at UnrealBuildTool.BuildMode.Build(TargetMakefile[] Makefiles, List`1 TargetDescriptors, BuildConfiguration BuildConfiguration, ISourceFileWorkingSet WorkingSet, BuildOptions Options, FileReference WriteOutdatedActionsFile) in D:\Unreal Source D\Oculus 4.27\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\Modes\BuildMode.cs:line 486
UnrealBuildTool.Main:    at UnrealBuildTool.BuildMode.Execute(CommandLineArguments Arguments) in D:\Unreal Source D\Oculus 4.27\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\Modes\BuildMode.cs:line 226
UnrealBuildTool.Main:    at UnrealBuildTool.UnrealBuildTool.Main(String[] ArgumentsArray) in D:\Unreal Source D\Oculus 4.27\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.cs:line 557
Timeline.Print:

Haven't really come across any mention of it specifically, but I'm still combing this discord and googling.

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Worst part being that I only run into this failure after all modules have been built, so I basically have to wait over an hour to know if each attempt was successful. If anyone happens to know a way to check this faster, that would also be super nice. Perhaps there's a way to compile Installed Builds incrementally that I haven't come across?

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 3:47 AM

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Apologies if I'm spamming too many questions or topics at once.
Also on the topic of installed builds, Would anyone happen to know if there is any alternative way where we can send like, the Engine or Binaries folder of our source build (or some combination of files that we've already generated) instead?
I'm treating the Installed Build generation process as a black box that just makes it more distributable, but a more senior dev in my team had brought up the question.

I have read in here about how it is also good for preventing accidental full source recompiles, but if I can't get an installed build working in a timely manner, it'd be nice to also have the option of distributing my source build instead of making each member of my team compile their own.

mossy wave Dec 16, 2022, 3:55 AM

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leaden birch Apologies if I'm spamming too many questions or topics at once. Also on the topi...

theres this software called UnrealBinaryBuilder that can zip that can include different parts of the installed build, if you already have a LocalBuild in your source engine folder, pressing the Build Engine button in the software will prompt a zip

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 4:04 AM

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I'm actually not getting as far as the LocalBuild folder being generated, since the UAT build keeps failing.
UnrealBinaryBuilder is actually my next course of action if my current build fails, glad to know it is still relevant! ^^

mossy wave Dec 16, 2022, 4:05 AM

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i suppose you can always try to make a Win64 only installed build and verify the processes works first, then you can add other platform and try again

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UnrealBinaryBuilder also have an UI for making installed build

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 4:08 AM

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It does only fail once I get to Linux build target, so I'm fairly sure the Win64 build would work.
Adding build targets after would cause my existing Win64 target to rebuild as well though, wouldn't it?
I am going to need the Linux build target for dedicated servers, since my main motivation is to enable other members of my team to build those out.

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Unless UnrealBinaryBuilder has options to prevent that. I should just go and download it and see.

mossy wave Dec 16, 2022, 4:09 AM

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when UAT is building UEGame for the target platform, those will always need to rebuild

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UHT, UEEditor will only need to compile once

leaden birch Dec 16, 2022, 4:20 AM

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That's unfortunate, I guess this process really is mostly trial and error xP

Here's to hoping that the builds were just failing because I didn't install the proper workloads for VS 2017. I did get an error before that asked specifically for 2017 (I've been developing with 2022), but I wasn't sure which workloads to install, so I just installed 2017. That did lead to builds getting much further along, but maybe it wasn't enough.
In old UE Source docs I found that the recommended workloads for 2017 were "Game Development with C++" workload, and the "Unreal Engine Installer" and "Nuget Package Manager" optional components.

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I've actually been taking the opposite approach, and instead of building a Win64 to see if it works, I've been building one that only targets Linux so I can see if it fails faster xP

midnight plume Dec 16, 2022, 6:24 AM

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how to use/update .net sdk version ? right now its using default 6.0.x i want to change it to net 7

heady sparrow Dec 16, 2022, 6:26 AM

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midnight plume how to use/update .net sdk version ? right now its using default 6.0.x i want to...

you may need to target the new ones install location in your ide's toolset/build settings

midnight plume Dec 16, 2022, 6:28 AM

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heady sparrow you may need to target the new ones install location in your ide's toolset/build...

do you mean retarget the engine source ?

heady sparrow Dec 16, 2022, 6:32 AM

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midnight plume do you mean retarget the engine source ?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/build/how-to-modify-the-target-framework-and-platform-toolset?view=msvc-170

How to: Modify the Target Framework and Platform Toolset

Learn more about: How to: Modify the Target Framework and Platform Toolset

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(of course this assumes you actually have .net 7 etc)

midnight plume Dec 16, 2022, 10:59 AM

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i try to add global.json and use .net 7 but no luck

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it wont detect my .netsdk

proper sentinel Dec 16, 2022, 2:48 PM

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Hello, Does anybody know what's causing this and to solve this? or is there any way to make it show which blueprint causing this? im using V5.1.0. my only idea is to add debug msg to tell the bp name in UBlueprintGeneratedClass::NeedsLoadForClient(), but do i need to compile the whole engine after this?

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leaden birch Dec 17, 2022, 8:14 AM

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leaden birch Worst part being that I only run into this failure after all modules have been b...

I feel dumb. apparently I missed a "-clean" parameter when running the build script. That's what was causing my rebuild every time.

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Guess I missed it amidst the other build options

south vortex Dec 17, 2022, 8:27 AM

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I personally always use clean for my automated nightly scripts. I just feel that its seems less risky of some issue creeping in and going undetected for a while. This way the issue is known to be in the code from the day before no matter what...

leaden birch Dec 17, 2022, 3:44 PM

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I probably will once I am actually able to put out successful Installed Builds. Troubleshooting has been an extremely slow process so far since I have been cleaning every time, while all I've been changing is aspects of my build environment rather than the source code itself.

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I also am running this on my own PC, no build server yet

brazen barn Dec 17, 2022, 6:08 PM

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hey so i was working on my game, but then it crashed but now i cant load into my project

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heres my logs

📎 scpfoundation.log

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plz help

iron dome Dec 17, 2022, 6:18 PM

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Look at the errors at the bottom.

brazen barn Dec 17, 2022, 6:22 PM

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in the log

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?

iron dome Dec 17, 2022, 6:25 PM

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Yes?

brazen barn Dec 17, 2022, 6:26 PM

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Item = Texture2D /Game/Miniature_cat.Miniature_cat

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is that it

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?

iron dome Dec 17, 2022, 6:43 PM

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Maybe?

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We have the same info you do. There are errors with your assets.

proper sentinel Dec 18, 2022, 4:57 AM

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ty for your answer, I managed to solve this by adding UE_Log to print out the problematic class and recompiled the whole engine 😩 It was about cyclic dependency

heady sparrow Dec 18, 2022, 8:54 AM

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Insights is getting much nicer on main

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also.... :0

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this is kind of evil... not everyone really needs these

pale storm Dec 18, 2022, 9:30 AM

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How can I get my hands on 5.2?

iron dome Dec 18, 2022, 9:31 AM

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https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine

pale storm Dec 18, 2022, 9:31 AM

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getting a 404

iron dome Dec 18, 2022, 9:31 AM

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You have to have 1) signed up to github and 2) registered to get access

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I forget how to do part 2

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If you don't know what github, git or source control are, you should probably google those first.

pale storm Dec 18, 2022, 9:32 AM

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I do

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Thanks!

iron dome Dec 18, 2022, 9:33 AM

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Awesome. Good luck!

pale storm Dec 18, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Which release is 5.2 tho?

iron dome Dec 18, 2022, 9:41 AM

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There's no "5.2" afaik. Just the ue5-main branch, which has commits in it that contribute to 5.2

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5.2 isn't actually out yet.

pale storm Dec 18, 2022, 9:43 AM

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alright gotya

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thanks again

iron dome Dec 18, 2022, 9:43 AM

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Np

heady sparrow Dec 18, 2022, 9:48 AM

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pale storm Which release is 5.2 tho?

ue5-main is super cutting edge latest stuff that is reflected from their internal p4 repo

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so be warned it may not always compile

iron dome Dec 18, 2022, 9:49 AM

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And if it does, it may be broken.

heady sparrow Dec 18, 2022, 9:49 AM

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if you have trouble you can bug people in here to find a compiling commit :U

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I'm on, uuuh hold on

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87b0026c25c4222edbb75cdb4443b0bc2a33d5a7

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4 days old

pale storm Dec 18, 2022, 3:23 PM

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I built ue5 main and it's ok

lean rain Dec 18, 2022, 5:29 PM

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Can I move a project built with the engine source code to a computer without Visual Studio and open it?

queen ridge Dec 18, 2022, 5:34 PM

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pale storm I built ue5 main and it's ok

Which commit did you use?

iron dome Dec 18, 2022, 7:21 PM

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lean rain Can I move a project built with the engine source code to a computer without Vis...

If it's built with a similar enough build.

nocturne horizon Dec 18, 2022, 7:24 PM

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does anyone know what is exactly Definitions.h? every time i reopen rider, and recompile UE without any source code changes, it says "Invalidated makefile (Definitions.h)" and proceeds to recompile THE ENTIRETY of the engine

lean rain Dec 19, 2022, 12:57 AM

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I should join to a dedicated server in different 5 computers here.

so i had to move the exe file to 5 computers.

but Anchor is not loaded in the client..i don't know why..

so I decided to join to server on the editor by vr veiw play

so i should move the entire project folder to other 5 computers

and when i opened the project there, they say "Would you like to rebuild them now?"

i think they want me to install visual studio and build source code..

I wanted to open the project only with engine in epich launcher.

Can you give me some advice?

nocturne horizon Dec 19, 2022, 1:58 PM

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nocturne horizon does anyone know what is exactly `Definitions.h`? every time i reopen rider, and...

it seems that UBT recreates Definition.Thing.h files everytime i'm compiling:

Writing project files...
14:44:17.157: Re-writing a file that was previously written: "C:\UE5_Source\Engine\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UnrealEditor\Development\Launch\Definitions.h"
14:44:17.162: Re-writing a file that was previously written: "C:\UE5_Source\Engine\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UnrealEditor\Development\UnrealEd\SharedPCH.UnrealEd.ShadowErrors.h"
14:44:17.167: Re-writing a file that was previously written: "C:\UE5_Source\Engine\Plugins\2D\Paper2D\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UnrealEditor\Development\Paper2D\Definitions.Paper2D.h"
14:44:17.175: Re-writing a file that was previously written: "C:\UE5_Source\Engine\Plugins\2D\Paper2D\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UnrealEditor\Development\Paper2DEditor\Definitions.Paper2DEditor.h"

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is there a reason for that?

median kayak Dec 20, 2022, 3:51 AM

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trying to convert my project from 5.0.3 to 5.1
couldnt rebuild so it told me to rebuild from source, so I went into visual studio and rebuilt the project and boom errors
contemplating just moving the files over manually

dapper needle Dec 20, 2022, 1:02 PM

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What is the UE5.1 Framework that is used? I am trying to generate the VS project files for the source build and it says I do not have a compatible Framework but I literally have every Framework all the way to 4.8 and there are no Frameworks that I do not have. I can package 4.27 source fine and I even updated the Framework for 4.27 but 5.0 is not working.

nocturne horizon Dec 20, 2022, 1:40 PM

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nocturne horizon is there a reason for that?

found the issue: for some stupid reason, Rider decides to always run GenerateProjectFiles.bat every time you open the project, even if there's already project files there. This causes absolutely all files to be recompiled. The workaround was to just edit that GenerateProjectFiles.bat to skip the execution if it has the -Rider parameter.

if [%1]==[-Rider] (
    echo Skipping Rider's automatic execution of GenerateProjectFiles.bat to avoid recompiling the ENTIRE ENGINE everytime you open Rider.
    exit /B 0
)

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obviously, 2nd workaround: using visual studio

iron dome Dec 20, 2022, 1:42 PM

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The only workaround ™️

smoky goblet Dec 20, 2022, 3:06 PM

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nocturne horizon found the issue: for some stupid reason, Rider decides to always run `GeneratePr...

That's weird, generating project files has never had any effect on compilation for me. At work, UGS regenerates the project files any time you sync and it doesn't cause the entire engine to be rebuilt. And ultimately it shouldn't since the unreal build process doesn't use the project files for compilation.

nocturne horizon Dec 20, 2022, 3:08 PM

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smoky goblet That's weird, generating project files has never had any effect on compilation f...

i don't know if it's because of the parameters, but it does overwrite headers (see Re-writing a file that was previously written: ...) which makes UBT or MSBuild believe that these files have been completely changed or something, although they don't seem to have any changes compared to their previous versions.

hidden hedge Dec 20, 2022, 3:15 PM

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running GenerateProjectFiles.bat absolutely does not cause an engine recompilation

smoky goblet Dec 20, 2022, 3:15 PM

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Weird, I've never seen that batch file write any code. headers or otherwise

nocturne horizon Dec 20, 2022, 5:31 PM

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hidden hedge running GenerateProjectFiles.bat absolutely does **not** cause an engine recompi...

that's even weirder then. because if i suppress this command:

GenerateProjectFiles.bat -Rider -Automated -Minimize -Platforms=Win64 -TargetTypes=Editor+Program -TargetConfigurations=Development

no files need to be recompilated

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is UBT doing whack stuff because of the parameters given?

nocturne horizon Dec 20, 2022, 5:44 PM

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nocturne horizon it seems that UBT recreates `Definition.Thing.h` files everytime i'm compiling: ...

look at the logs ^

low edge Dec 21, 2022, 9:50 PM

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just built 5.2

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anything interesting i should check out?

half mantle Dec 22, 2022, 12:49 PM

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hi not sure where to ask this but anyone know where in the source I can find data on how to manipulate and change skeletal mesh skinning data? I kinda wanna make a skinning weight editor

slim laurel Dec 22, 2022, 6:56 PM

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Is there a way to generate an Installed Build without having to rebuild literally every header again? UAT is ignoring my 200gb Intermediate folder

iron dome Dec 22, 2022, 7:27 PM

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If you're compiling in a different configuration? No.

queen ridge Dec 23, 2022, 3:17 PM

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low edge just built 5.2

Which commit?

glacial hedge Dec 23, 2022, 8:34 PM

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I have not pulled since 5.1 came out. Should I be in a different branch than release to compile the new 5.1?

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glacial hedge Dec 23, 2022, 8:58 PM

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Severity Code Description Project File Line Suppression State
Error NU1201 Project UnrealBuildTool is not compatible with netcoreapp3.1 (.NETCoreApp,Version=v3.1). Project UnrealBuildTool supports: net6.0 (.NETCoreApp,Version=v6.0) UE5ProgramRules C:\UnrealEngine\Engine\Intermediate\Build\BuildRulesProjects\UE5ProgramRules\UE5ProgramRules.csproj 1

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now I am getting this error, even though i have the netcore 6.0 sdk installed

glacial hedge Dec 23, 2022, 10:15 PM

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trying to compile the engine 😛

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i just deleted the folder

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going to do it from scratch

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it is installing dep. now then I will retry and go from there ❤️

glacial hedge Dec 23, 2022, 10:38 PM

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got it to start compiling now, lets hope it doesnt error out 🙂 fingers crossed

glacial hedge Dec 23, 2022, 11:50 PM

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seems Christmas came early, compiled firs time.. woot!

acoustic folio Dec 24, 2022, 6:34 AM

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I had built a project in a source 5.0 version but now want to make it compatible with the standard binary-from-the-launcher version of unreal, I've already deleted the source folder and the project wont compile when starting. Anything else to do?

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I think i got it - just created a blank project with the launcher version, copied files over (I knew they were compatible) and seems fine

worthy zinc Dec 24, 2022, 6:26 PM

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has anyone ever converted a binary build of ue5 to a source build of ue5? how simple is it?

worthy zinc Dec 24, 2022, 6:41 PM

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ahh ok. i know about the "switch engine version" button. was making sure that's all i had to do. thnx!

thorn smelt Dec 24, 2022, 10:29 PM

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Iirc this is the result of a mathematical phenomenon called gymbal lock

indigo oyster Dec 25, 2022, 10:08 AM

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I need access to the vertex id (SV_VertexID), but this dose not seem to be exposed to the material graph. It it possible to make a module that appends a materiale expression with such behaviour.

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Ideally without changing other modules.

minor karma Dec 25, 2022, 3:26 PM

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how can i force Visual Studio to build UE 4.27 project on 14.16.27023 toolchain instead of 14.34.31937
NMake Additional Options /std:c++14 /p:PlatformToolset=v141 doesnt help

For example output of "Building BenchmarkTool" In Visual Studio 2017

3>Using Visual Studio 2022 14.34.31937 toolchain (B:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.34.31933) and Windows 10.0.18362.0 SDK (C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10).
3>Building 25 actions with 8 processes...

dense kraken Dec 26, 2022, 4:06 PM

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Hi, I would like to make an pull request with a feature improvement. I forked and cloned the engine repo and build it from the main branch, as mentioned here:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.1/en-US/downloading-unreal-engine-source-code/
Most of our active development is in the master branch, so we prefer to take pull requests there
However when I built it I got the version 4.28. Just to clarify: If I want to make a commit that will have a chance of being merged to next version of UE5 I'm supposed to work on branch ue5-main, right?

dense kraken Dec 26, 2022, 5:00 PM

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Ok, thanks. And I'm guessing I'll just make the pull request once I'm done, I don't have to notify anybody, right?

sage sandal Dec 27, 2022, 1:36 AM

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Anyone gotten errors like this from trying to GenerateProjectFiles.bat of 5.1 tag in git?

D:\dev\UnrealEngine\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Editor\SceneDepthPickerMode\SceneDepthPickerMode.Build.cs(12,28): error CS0103: The name 'GetModuleDirectory' does not exist in the current context

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heh so I was right the first time. :p I'll try checking out that tag and see if it changes anything

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Same error, sadly. Are you building with VS2022?

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okay I'll give that a whirl. I always seem to have strange problems building from git

upbeat karma Dec 27, 2022, 12:30 PM

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if I make a change in a .cpp file on the engine source, will I have to recompile the whole engine? I just wanted to change a function body to add some additional null checks

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(I'm working with a source build btw)

upbeat karma Dec 27, 2022, 1:04 PM

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ok seems like it worked without recompiling everything

south vortex Dec 27, 2022, 1:40 PM

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depends what you change. if you change a core header, then that'll result in most things recompiling.

upbeat karma Dec 27, 2022, 1:48 PM

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nah it was just a function body on a .cpp file

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landscape dynamic material instance seems to be broken on dedicated servers

upbeat karma Dec 27, 2022, 3:22 PM

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yea, apparently

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I dont see why it'd be needed on servers but yea the landscape material I'm using was calling ALandscapeProxy::SetLandscapeMaterialTextureParameterValue

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I just added a null check there to see if the landscape component was null and that fixed the crash 🤷‍♂️

mighty wren Dec 28, 2022, 8:03 AM

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this is my first time building from source following a udemy course, I'm beginner to intermediate in C++ but this is not covered in the course so I'm wondering where I start to try and fix these issues?

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i've got entire output log if that's useful

south vortex Dec 28, 2022, 8:11 AM

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its complaining about the directory length. Where do you have it installed? Perhaps try having the source in the root - i.e. C:\Unreal\

Rather than whatever you currently have it in?

mighty wren Dec 28, 2022, 8:20 AM

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so I just closed visual studio

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opened it again

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hit build

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and it succeeded so....

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i dunno

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but i think its fixed

cobalt herald Dec 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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If I edit the engine source code, how do I re-compile that file so I can see the changes reflected when I launch my project?

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Just trying to experiment with editing some of the engine's slate styling

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Cool thanks Laura!

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Yeah need to set up a source build :p cheers

hot idol Dec 28, 2022, 11:36 PM

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is this the right way to add the client target as it always says cant build for target. but i did same for server and it worked

hot idol Dec 29, 2022, 12:36 AM

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actually looking like i can build them from inside the editor like this. just seems vs is pissy about it

plucky ivy Dec 30, 2022, 10:59 PM

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what would be the quickest way to find a specific functionality inside the source code?

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Im searching for implementations of mesh space, local space additives amongst other things, and wondering whats the fastest way to find that kinda stuff in the source

heady sparrow Dec 31, 2022, 6:40 AM

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search 🙂

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generally you want to find something related and try to see if it has a codepath in there

lapis whale Dec 31, 2022, 1:24 PM

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hi guys. i'm not very familiar with engine source but i need one thing
when i package the game as shipping it is deleting (ShowFlag.Tonemapper 0) command
and this is the only command i need. my question how do i make this command as main thing for all the project in source code?

drifting zephyr Jan 1, 2023, 3:28 AM

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quick question, how can i add a *code based plugin(from the market place, preferably) * into a custom/source built version on unreal engine 4?

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thanks!

umbral plover Jan 1, 2023, 9:37 AM

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(Although this a question regarding Blueprints, I feel like the answer comes from the engine's source code)

Using Floats
When I increase 10 to the power of 22 (and print it) it shows 1 with 22 zeros afterwards
But when I Increase it to the power of 23, there are numbers which aren't zero in the number, which shouldn't be possible because multiplying 10 with itself will only give a number with 1 at the left and zeros everywhere else

Why is that?

And also, is there a plugin or a way to add a very big number type into the blueprints?

vital hawk Jan 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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umbral plover (Although this a question regarding Blueprints, I feel like the answer comes fro...

That's just how (single precision) floats work. UE5 has some double precision float support, though I have no clue about if it's enabled by default and/or BP accessible.
For more, you can check this: https://floating-point-gui.de/

umbral plover Jan 1, 2023, 12:08 PM

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I found this online "A Double is a floating point data type that has double the precision of a regular float. This precision is roughly typical at 16 significant digits.

Notice
As of Unreal Engine 5, this is the default option when creating a Float variable."

And now I'm even more confused

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also, I forgot to mention I'm using unreal engine 5

vital hawk Jan 1, 2023, 1:01 PM

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Check your BP pins to see if they're single or double precision (just hover on it should give you the answer).

vital hawk Jan 1, 2023, 1:26 PM

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Actually it might be a double limitation. It just checked in python and got the same result. So you've not hit the single limit, but the double lmit. You can ask for quad precision float, but considering we just had double in 5.0, you'll probably have to wait a while 😛
I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but you probably don't want to do it with Blueprint's floats. Either fall back to ints, or go to C++ with custom types (there are libs with any type of float accuracy you can imagine).

umbral plover Jan 1, 2023, 2:32 PM

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alright, thanks, I'll consider the available options

nova sleet Jan 2, 2023, 1:54 AM

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If double is not enough you are most likely doing something you shouldn't and I wouldn't expect anything more than double to be supported by UE, on msvc 64bit is max you can have, some compilers will allow 80bit floating point but it is much slower to compute, and 128bit on x86 is always software implemented and any custom floating point implementations will always be software and much slower than natively supported

10^23 is way outside the effective precision range of both float and double, with 22 you basically got lucky that it can represent that exact number, doesn't mean it can represent any number around it

umbral plover Jan 2, 2023, 8:16 AM

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nova sleet If double is not enough you are most likely doing something you shouldn't and I ...

yeah, I did figure out that if I typed random numbers instead of 1 and 0 the number will change, almost like it's trying to pick another number "that is kinda close" like some sort of approximation

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so I made a struct and a custom function library able to calculate those struct together so that greater numbers can be simulated thanks to that struct

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it was very complex to do, so now I'm looking for how to put images in the blueprint editor because commenting the math I did to make it work is much harder than coming up with the math itself

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I couldn't find any plugins that does that though, anyone know a way to put images in the same way that comments exists in the blueprint editor?

hot idol Jan 4, 2023, 3:53 PM

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'D:\Microsoft\Xamarin\NuGet\' doesn't exist. [E:\unrealsrc\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.cspro
j]``` i have no d:/ unreals gone mad again. fresh src files is there something i may need to delete? as on my other pc i just extracted and away.

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just a nugetconf.xml pointing to a url @stable hemlock

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tbh the src i copied over pre built should work just wont build the src on this pc. as i get 68 errs like that when i generate proj file.bat. possibly something with my visual studio or even path settings as its an abused dev pc iv seriously fudged a lot i guess

hot idol Jan 4, 2023, 4:36 PM

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remove the config?

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thing is on my other pc i also dont have d:/microsoft/xamarin/nuget as a file lol.

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:25 PM

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hello, i am not sure what has happened, but i can't build my level, it complains i haven't built lightmass and i should go back to vs a compile it

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:26 PM

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last swallow hello, i am not sure what has happened, but i can't build my level, it complains...

wrong channel 🙂 try #level-design perhaps

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:26 PM

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level design deals with compiling UE5 in VS?

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:27 PM

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this channel is about compiling engine C++ code

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:28 PM

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i've recompiled

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:28 PM

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are you running a custom built engine from Git? or through the launcher?

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:28 PM

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custom build

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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ah ok, then you are in correct channel 🙂 apologies, your original post was a little confusing

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what happens when you open your solution in VS or Rider and build the project? does it not do anything?

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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it all compiles no errors

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i think i need to find lightmass and rebuild

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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have you tried opening up the Applications folder and right clicking on Lightmass there and build it directly?

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:30 PM

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oh i am dumb, i've found it now, just hitting rebuild

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:30 PM

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Programs/UnrealLightmass yeah

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:30 PM

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I was looking for Lightmass but UnrealLightmass was the answer

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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happy to be your rubber duck today 🙂 I'll send the invoice in the mail!

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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i pay in breadcrumbs

coarse canyon Jan 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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ooohhh nomnom

last swallow Jan 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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😉

thick storm Jan 5, 2023, 8:39 PM

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is another attempt at creating new character movement ? ;

lone scaffold Jan 5, 2023, 9:52 PM

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yes, I heard the new character movement based on network prediction plugin is WIP

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interesting that they are doing character specific stuff at Chaos level

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Probably means the gravity won't be scripted but will be coming from physics

manic forum Jan 6, 2023, 3:34 PM

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Is there a way to ship game with enabled logging without compiling engine ?
I tried to change flags in constructor for Game.Target.cs file but it doesn't work for me
engine version: Unreal 5.1
bOverrideBuildEnvironment = true; bUseLoggingInShipping = true;

upper orchid Jan 6, 2023, 3:50 PM

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does 5.1 require vs 2022 or it works with 2019?

manic forum Jan 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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@upper orchid https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.1/en-US/unreal-engine-5.1-release-notes/
Windows Visual Studio 2019 v16.11.5, Visual Studio 2022 Windows SDK 10.0.18362 LLVM clang 13.0.1 .NET 4.6.2 Targeting Pack .NET 6.0 IDE Version the Build fa
I prefer 2022

upper orchid Jan 6, 2023, 4:00 PM

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i guess i'll get 2022, i got a warning about .net 6.0 when generating project files, it might work but just to be sure ..

icy matrix Jan 7, 2023, 4:20 AM

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I keep getting an Error when building, any advice would be appreciated. "Error: C1083 Cannot Open include file "Windows/WindowsPlatform.h": no such file or directory"

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I installed VS Studio to my S: drive with custom path for all 3 folder things, but not sure if that has any impact

heady sparrow Jan 7, 2023, 5:53 AM

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icy matrix I keep getting an Error when building, any advice would be appreciated. "Error: ...

probably missing setup.bat

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try running that

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also yeah just... just have vs on c

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this path leads to suffering

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if setup.bat doesn't help

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you could symlink it I guess if space is the issue

manic forum Jan 7, 2023, 12:55 PM

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@stable hemlock nope:
1>E:\Epic\Projekty\game\Source\Game\Game.Build.cs(10,3): error CS0103: The name 'bOverrideBuildEnvironment' does not exist in the current context 1>E:\Epic\Projekty\game\Source\Game\Game.Build.cs(12,9): error CS0103: The name 'bUseLoggingInShipping' does not exist in the current context

south vortex Jan 7, 2023, 1:06 PM

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isnt there some compiler directives for logging? if so, it wont work without a compile

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you need a source build, that I am sure of. And then when you add the value, I'm 95% sure you need to compile, because it is a compiler level directive about stripping the log commands out

upbeat karma Jan 7, 2023, 2:12 PM

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I'm using bUseLoggingInShipping for my dedicated server and its working

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in 5.0.2 atleast

upper orchid Jan 7, 2023, 2:51 PM

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8>  Executing up to 16 processes, one per physical core
8>  Requested 1.5 GB free memory per action, 2.85 GB available: limiting max parallel actions to 1
8>Building 5677 actions with 1 process...``` is there a way to use virtual memory for compiling? i tried to add 32gb to paging but it seams it does not matter?

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i have 16gb and around 10 free before opening the vs studio, it usually gets to 4-5 cores but i think i can build it faster if i could use less ram per core or use virtual ram somehow ...

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strange, sometimes it detects the right memory available

lone scaffold Jan 7, 2023, 8:46 PM

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https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/ed1ffa421653a8fd96c1b51a44adf09a4237914c

icy matrix Jan 7, 2023, 9:58 PM

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heady sparrow also yeah just... just have vs on c

yeah S: Didn't work

fallen root Jan 7, 2023, 10:41 PM

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can Engine Defines be overriden in the Build Target?

queen ridge Jan 8, 2023, 6:15 AM

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Anyone on ue5-main and able to build & package? If so please let me know which git commit you're using, thanks.

velvet anvil Jan 8, 2023, 3:35 PM

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How would I change the specular of all materials to be 0.25 by default instead of having to change it manually each time i create a new material?

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I found this text in the ColorCorrectRegionsShader.usf file but it didnt seem to do much

solid saffron Jan 9, 2023, 2:41 AM

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Anyone know how to generate a CMake file from the unreal source?

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I'm trying to use CLion but the Unreal make file seems to be non standard

solid saffron Jan 9, 2023, 11:46 AM

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I think it might've been on clang, unsure now. I got it working fine from Rider instead.

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Now I'm lost trying to figure out where HasOSWindowBorder is set, because it's always false and it looks like that's the source of the cursor offset.

daring crow Jan 9, 2023, 5:18 PM

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How to download the dependencies for Main branch?

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tried changing the URL to HTTPS and didn't help.

coarse canyon Jan 9, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Run setup.bat

opal gorge Jan 9, 2023, 9:58 PM

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Uhhhh should this engine code really be getting called every frame?

#if !UE_BUILD_SHIPPING
  float TargetFPS = 30.0f;
  static IConsoleVariable* MaxFPSCVar = IConsoleManager::Get().FindConsoleVariable(TEXT("t.MaxFPS"));
  if (MaxFPSCVar && MaxFPSCVar->GetFloat() > 0)
  {
    TargetFPS = MaxFPSCVar->GetFloat();
  }
  CSV_CUSTOM_STAT_GLOBAL(MaxFrameTime, 1000.0f / TargetFPS, ECsvCustomStatOp::Set);
#endif

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 12:43 AM

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I been trying for the past 3 days 😦

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 5:04 AM

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So Much for open source 🥺 when you need to download from privates country restricted servers

heady sparrow Jan 10, 2023, 5:06 AM

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daring crow So Much for open source 🥺 when you need to download from privates country rest...

check the pins

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I think Snaps had the same issue recently

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I did as well and I live in NA

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 5:07 AM

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🥹 how to fix it

heady sparrow Jan 10, 2023, 5:07 AM

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For me it just went away after a while

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the pins have a wacky workaround

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could be dns routing for all I know

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 5:08 AM

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so I wait

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what if i use a VPN?

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 5:11 AM

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heady sparrow check the pins

you mean the Pin post on here

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 5:23 AM

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light pewter Fix for 5.1 source build setup batch failure.``` Checking dependencies... Updati...

that's for 5.1 having the same issue with main can you check it please

full jewel Jan 10, 2023, 5:26 AM

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if it's the same failed to download issue, the solution isn't any different currently

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 5:28 AM

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ok i think i know how to fix it so blob is the first two digit of the path like this

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full jewel Jan 10, 2023, 5:28 AM

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yeah that's the folder it gets put in

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 5:28 AM

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🙂

daring valve Jan 10, 2023, 8:42 AM

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I mentioned this in #cpp, but I feel like this channel is more appropriate.

In a previous project I used the GenericPlatformFile api for crawling a directory, but it seems to have changed dramatically in UE5.1

I'm trying to get all the subdirectories in a path, but the previously used functions of FindFiles no longer has the parameters for it, and IterateDirectory is gone as well as the visitor I used to use.

IterateDirectoryRecursively looked promising but I'm unsure of how to use this api as I used to feed my own TArray into a function to emplace the directories found.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

small surge Jan 10, 2023, 2:24 PM

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any info on whats in store for 5.2 and when 5.1.1 is releasing?

trim zenith Jan 10, 2023, 5:48 PM

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Hi, just want to compare my experience to other people's.

I've built the engine from source, then my project and then my project in the development server configuration because i'm making a dedicated server game. It takes around 2-3 seconds per file, so with around 5000 files to compile the engine it took around 5 hours, way less for the project and server... but now i wanted to compile my project again and it's compiling 2500-ish files. It's been compiling 3 hours already O.o

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I have a resonable PC , 5800X amd cpu, 32 GB ram and m.2 drives... I've added both unreal and my project folder to excludes in the windows defender and disabled indexing...

Does this sound similar? Or is something wrong?

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CPU is at around 15% usage across all cores, ram is 50% in use, drives are basically at 0

light pewter Jan 10, 2023, 6:27 PM

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daring crow that's for 5.1 having the same issue with main can you check it please

Shouldn't be any different of a solution

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check my pin, the fix should work

daring valve Jan 10, 2023, 7:24 PM

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Is there an easier way that I'm missing just to get a list of directories? I feel like I'm taking the long way around

thick storm Jan 10, 2023, 8:44 PM

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dynamic tessllation is coming to nanite

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(should be in few hours on github)

daring valve Jan 10, 2023, 8:47 PM

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thick storm dynamic tessllation is coming to nanite

Wasn't nanite supposed to.... eliminate the need for tessellation?

thick storm Jan 10, 2023, 8:47 PM

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for static assets yes

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but as people complain

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sometimes you really want to just generate that snow

daring crow Jan 10, 2023, 8:55 PM

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light pewter Shouldn't be any different of a solution

yes it did I didnt know what was a blob at first 🙂

south vortex Jan 11, 2023, 12:59 AM

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trim zenith I have a resonable PC , 5800X amd cpu, 32 GB ram and m.2 drives... I've added bo...

did you make any changes to the engine source code? even a single line config change? Sometimes a single change can affect a header that causes a cascading effect for all the engine to become 'dirty' and need to be recompiled.

Try running it twice in a row with no changes.

Personally I always do full clean rebuilds nightly as an automated function - so I'm not sure beyond that.

trim zenith Jan 11, 2023, 9:22 AM

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south vortex did you make any changes to the engine source code? even a single line config ch...

Thanks for the input! It's a great idea to have clean builds over night but i'm not too happy to have my pc on overnight at home with the current electricity prices. Hobby project 🙂

What i infer from your message tho is that my compile times aren't abnormal and there's nothing obvious i can do to improve them.
I don't have a single change to the engine source code, only 2-3 files in my project.

trim zenith Jan 11, 2023, 9:40 AM

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And speaking of scripts i'd love to set up a command line script for builds. I google and know i should be able to do it with msbuild -t but haven't yet managed to

south vortex Jan 11, 2023, 9:52 AM

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trim zenith And speaking of scripts i'd love to set up a command line script for builds. I g...

https://github.com/botman99/ue4-unreal-automation-tool#Packaging-Your-Game

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trim zenith Jan 11, 2023, 9:53 AM

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That is amazing, thank you very much @south vortex ❤️

shadow pasture Jan 11, 2023, 10:01 AM

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Does anyone know how to enable automated PSO gathering for Shipping builds in 5.1?

solid saffron Jan 11, 2023, 4:00 PM

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So I've compiled UE5 in Development configuration but the Engine/ folder is significantly larger than the release. Seems like the build process is dumping a bunch of unnecessary stuff into the same folders it puts the necessary stuff. Is there any way to clean out the garbage to make an install of comparable size to the release binaries?

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 12:32 AM

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The wiki doesn't say development has debug symbols and it seems to indicate that Development is the build that UE releases with the launcher?
Could you elaborate on the LocalInstall and BuildGraph? I have zero clue what either of these things are

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 1:48 AM

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Oh it's doing a full clean rebuild huh, well okay then. Think I got it though, thanks for your help!

nova sleet Jan 12, 2023, 1:51 AM

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solid saffron The wiki doesn't say development has debug symbols and it seems to indicate that...

When you build development config yourself it includes debug info, and it is not unusual for a source build to be 200+GB

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 1:52 AM

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nova sleet When you build development config yourself it includes debug info, and it is not...

Huh, okay. I wish I'd asked before I left a build on over the night because I have to do it all again lol

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Thanks

fallen root Jan 12, 2023, 3:32 AM

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It seems that when using Project Launcher in a Source Build, the CrashReporter is not included in the packaged game even if checking the "Include Crash Reporter" check box. Anyone know how to include it?

south vortex Jan 12, 2023, 4:08 AM

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I had this issue. There is a DLL that seems to be missing from the source build.

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#engine-source message

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For whatever reason the DDL was not been added. Laura and a few others in this channel helped me track it down

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its very vague - and I still dont know why it randomly occurs

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but your not the first to ask - so might be a bigger issue...

fallen root Jan 12, 2023, 4:09 AM

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Thanks, I'll check it out. Also there is no build target for CrashReporter in Test config. There is Shipping and Development but no Test

south vortex Jan 12, 2023, 4:09 AM

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Not sure about that - I only build Debug Game + Shipping

velvet anvil Jan 12, 2023, 4:09 AM

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How would I change the specular of all materials to be 0.25 by default instead of having to change it manually each time i create a new material?
I found this text in the ColorCorrectRegionsShader.usf file but it didnt seem to do anything

fallen root Jan 12, 2023, 4:33 AM

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technically Test is Shipping, but scratching my head here trying to find out why I cannot get crashreportclient in my packaged game

cloud chasm Jan 12, 2023, 8:21 AM

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Hello, i'm trying to render some geometry i have loaded in a single interleaved buffer using a LocalVertexFactory, but the problem i get is that only the position is passed correctly: all the other data arrives "corrupted" on the gpu.
This is my vertex data's definition:

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And this is how i initialize my vertex buffer:

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While this is how i setup my vertex factory
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I think my problem is with how i setup the various SRVs for the texture coordinates + tangent bases, but i'm not really sure where to look

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Doing a renderdoc capture, it can be noticed that only the first texcoord arrives correctly, all the other ones are set to 0

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 10:34 AM

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cloud chasm Hello, i'm trying to render some geometry i have loaded in a single interleaved ...

Disclaimer, I only have shader knowledge, not Unreal specifically.
GPU buffers tend to have pretty strict data alignment requirements, and for that reason it is inadvisable to use 3 component vectors, as they're 12 bytes long while alignment is typically 8 or 16 bytes.
Materially this means that in cpp:

struct someData
{
  Vec3 a;
  Vec3 b;
}

will not align with the same structure on the GPU.

Whether Unreal accounts for this or not I have no clue, but you should change position (and others) to a 4 component vector anyway

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https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/Interface_Block_(GLSL)#Memory_layout

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The rules for std140 layout are covered quite well in the OpenGL specification (OpenGL 4.5, Section 7.6.2.2, page 137). Among the most important is the fact that arrays of types are not necessarily tightly packed. An array of floats in such a block will not be the equivalent to an array of floats in C/C++. The array stride (the bytes between array elements) is always rounded up to the size of a vec4 (ie: 16-bytes). So arrays will only match their C/C++ definitions if the type is a multiple of 16 bytes

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To visualise the issue... Your CPU data looks like this:
p_x p_y p_z u_x u_y n_x n_y n_z t_x t_y t_z
while your gpu structure may look like this:
p_x p_y p_z --- u_x u_y --- --- n_x n_y n_z --- t_x t_y t_z ---
So when you send the data to the gpu, your normal probably ends up with the data of your tangent, your tangent is just garbage, and your uvs are a mix of uv and normal.

cloud chasm Jan 12, 2023, 10:52 AM

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argh, okay, i'm will try padding the data in my vertices and see if that fixes

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I updated my struct as such
But that didn't fix it

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At this point i'm starting to think that unreal's LocalVertexFactory doesn't like interleaved buffers, and to use one i might have to make my vertex factory

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 11:08 AM

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cloud chasm I updated my struct as such But that didn't fix it

I would expect here that the UV and Position would be correct, but as per std140, float[2] is not 8 bytes, it's 32

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Er wait, wrong end. Disregard

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 11:16 AM

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cloud chasm And this is how i initialize my vertex buffer:

Are you sure those views are correct?

cloud chasm Jan 12, 2023, 11:16 AM

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nope, not at all-

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I'm pretty sure that's where my problem resides

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 11:16 AM

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Any reason you used G32R32F for UV but used R32F for others

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Unfortunately I have zero clue what half of these macros in there actually do. Always with the macros, Unreal

cloud chasm Jan 12, 2023, 11:18 AM

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Then i get an assertion:
Assertion failed: InStartOffsetBytes % RHIGetMinimumAlignmentForBufferBackedSRV(InFormat) == 0 [File:E:\Projects\UnrealEngine\Engine\Source\Runtime\RHI\Private\DynamicRHI.cpp] [Line: 760]

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 11:19 AM

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What did you change it to?

cloud chasm Jan 12, 2023, 11:19 AM

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PF_R32G32B32F for the Vector3f things

solid saffron Jan 12, 2023, 11:20 AM

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I would strongly recommend just changing them to Vec4 and using A32R32G32B32F

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It's the simplest alignment