ue4-general

[plush yew]

adding another spiral works, but what if you want it to end 😄

guess it will lead into next level 🙅‍♀️

[neon bough]

well, that railing isn't made for your purpose

as you noticed, the first and last post are supposed to be on flat ground

[plush yew]

yeah just noticed

[broken spire]

distance cull volume doesn't seem to be working :/

even with this set on all the actors in the scene

[paper cobalt]

Hey All

So I have been aware of this bug, but never experienced it myself.

Yesterday however, i installed a 3090fe into my desktop and all the sudden I am getting the Epic Games Launcher Bug where i heats idle temps +20c

has anyone found a solution yet?

[hollow moat]

I found the level - UE decided to duplicate my entire project and I opened the previous version, weird lol

[hollow cairn]

can I change material on specific parts of the basic unreal characters?

like make his legs invicible? 😳

[zinc cipher]

Anyone here using a Mac? I crash maybe 80% of the time if I try to add a new item to a data table. It's so absurd.

[wicked frigate]

Is there any way to get rid of clipping camera through gun?
I'm making a shooter game and in the aim pose camera clips with the gun
please tell me what to do if you know
thanks

[plush yew]

When I open unreal 4 it takes 10+ minutes now from even a blank slate

Im using an ssd, and used unreal all week, it just started chugging so bad I cant even open projects without it taking 20+ minutes now

is there some config that could do this? I tried rebooting and everything else is fine, 3900x 32gb ram, its not my system

[tender pecan]

I am not. I use rider and just git cmd line at the moment.

[plush yew]

Considering I have to keep rebooting due to xr framework errors I cant get anything done this morning now at all, its impossible

hoping its just a setting that went bonkers

using 4.27.1

[grim ore]

check task manager and see what it says

[plush yew]

it loaded up, but my vr preview is disabled again, so I have to reboot the project again

[wary ferry]

4.27 seems awefully unstable even after its been out for so long now

[plush yew]

having massive issues just getting anything to work at all

spent 12+ hours setting up the project to compile for quest 2

should I be using 4.26 instead?

vr preview is disabled even if steamvr is ticked on, even if it works, turning the head goes so wobbly, never had these issues in ue5 when I tested it, and in unity

blank slate projects get stuck here for a massively long time

[grim ore]

and what does task manager show

[plush yew]

very little cpu and ram usage

[grim ore]

yep unreal isnt even up there, perhaps its hung on your vr setup

I cant say I have had an issue with .27 or quest, but I dont use virtual desktop just pure steamvr

[plush yew]

yeah killing steamvr fixed that thanks, but unreal cant initialize my vr headset properly

[grim ore]

for testing in editor

[plush yew]

vr preview keeps greying out so I cant test in vr now

it worked all week on 4.27 and even in ue 5,

[grim ore]

it sounds like steamvr isnt initializing properly with your headset, it might have been stuck trying to find it (I know this happens when mine is off and I start it up)

[plush yew]

yeah it only ungreys the vr preview if steamvr has already started

which means that ue wont start in my case

spent over a week just trying to get the most basic functionality working in unreal with quest, cant even preview now

[grim ore]

try uninstalling steamvr and see if it still causes an issue with starting. that can atleast verify its steamvr directly. also have you tried without virtual desktop?

[plush yew]

Ill try that, have you ever had massive head delay when testing in vrpreview by the way? Nothing came up in google

doesnt happen once its compiled or any of the games ive played for years now, only in the engine preview

its less a delay but more like a strange head wobble

[grim ore]

i've never had an issue once I got it set up. building apk to device worked and vr preview worked in editor using the vr template

but I only use either steam vr and normally plugged in or I use air link but rarely

[plush yew]

I had the same issue with airlink last week but it went away with virtual desktop

and then it came back with virtual desktop

[daring cedar]

I can't see my quest 2 on launch options, it's detected by developer hub and on pc but doesn't show up on UE

[plush yew]

does steamvr really have to be initialized first in order to activate vr preview?

or airlink even sorry

[grim ore]

as far as I know it detects VR on startup so if steamvr isnt running properly its not going to enable vr preview

thats why steamvr auto loads if its not loaded when you launch a project with steamvr enabled

[plush yew]

so vr gets disabled alltogether, seems like the project has to be rebooted if vr turns off for a little while

[daring cedar]

plz help, it's my first time setting up quest 2 on UE and it doesn't show up on device launch list

[grim ore]

are you trying to do preview, or build to the device?

one is steamvr, one is android

[daring cedar]

build to the device

[grim ore]

is your android SDK and such all set up?

[daring cedar]

setupandroid file inside UE folder doesn't work I get "Update failed. Please check the Android Studio install."

I have Android studio installed

[grim ore]

yep without following all the instructions its not goign to work

so.. which android studio did you install? and did you let it finish the install all the way to the project creation/browser screen

[daring cedar]

android studio 2020.3.1

yea I did install it all the way

[grim ore]

yep thats the wrong one

the docs tell you 4.0, and the bat file tells you 3.5.3

I would install 3.5.3

uninstall whatever you have installed for Android Studio, then install 3.5.3 from the downloads folder linked on the android setup page, then try running the bat again

[plush yew]

Yeah airlink wont work (oculus launch bug) I wonder why steamvr will not in unreal anymore

I need to work with steamvr in order to test anything to get vr preview to launch

[grim ore]

plug it in, dont use airlink

[plush yew]

it works now

but the head wobble is still there

not only that its completely unusable the headset is shaking and you cant even turn the head now

its viewable within the preview via desktop but inside the headset its a garbled 3d mess

I just rebooted now to get the cable to work

is 4.27 stable for oculusxr? Ive had strange issues all week

within the headset preview its literally beer goggles

[daring cedar]

I installed that version and the bat file worked but I still don't see my device on UE

[grim ore]

so no errors from the android setup bat file?

[daring cedar]

no it worked

[light wigeon]

hii

can somebody help me about packaging game for android

[grim ore]

ok so make sure your android SDK is installed as part of your engine (it should be if you didnt disble it), and then in your project settings -> platforms -> android / SDK make sure you have agreed to the licenses and its set up to use android on that project

then restart your pc

and make sure android developer mode is enabled on your quest itself

and make sure once you plug in your device in your PC you accept the dialog box in the quest itself

then once that is all good you can start UE4 up with it plugged in and on and it should detect it as a valid android device

[hollow moat]

I have some variables on my UserWidget, how can I modify them in code?

[wicked frigate]

any suggestion?

[daring cedar]

I made it work but when I launched I got this error at the end

[plush yew]

@grim ore Sorry to have confused you at all, got it working with virtual desktop and steam vr but also oculus airlink, just had to uninstall and reinstall steamvr, virtual desktop and enable / disable a few unreal engine plugins for vr!

[grim ore]

yay for fixing it, weird fixes lol

[daring cedar]

Do you possibly know what could be the problem that's causing the error?

[grim ore]

scroll up and see the other errors? that is just the end. it looks like an internet issue

[visual geyser]

Anyone familiar with virtual textures turning pink? Ive inherited this scene and they used virtual textures and every so often the texture maps go pink.

[grim ore]

maybe upload the entire log to pastebin or something

[daring cedar]

https://pastebin.com/HSFgvgvG

[daring cedar]

I updated all my sdk tools and I got this now

https://pastebin.com/RwNiHxkw

[grim ore]

for the later one, do you have more than one vr plugin enabled?

[daring cedar]

Oculus VR, OpenXR

[grim ore]

disable one of them, whatever you arent using

also are you packaging, cooking, building, launching, deploying?

you are using build tools 32 as well, that might be an issue. I am using build tools 30 and no problems here

[daring cedar]

I disabled openxr and it works now!

[grim ore]

yay

progress

[daring cedar]

Thank you very much

[cloud pagoda]

Hi, can someone please help me with a rotator node on an emissive material? Basically, I have an emissive map that's shaped like a ring and I want one side to light up at once and the light rotate on the ring shape. So I made a mask on top of the emissive map but the mask doesn't have the same rotate axis so I wanna know how to fix that and sync them up

Here is my current set up including the emissive map and mask

Here's an amazing arrow I drew to show how I want the mask to rotate so that only part of the emissive map shows at once and it rotates

It's a ring of light kinda, and the end goal is that only one of the loittle sections of that ring lights up at once and the mask rotates along the ring to illuminate each section at once as it rotates and turns of the previous one. Don't know if I'm explaining properly sorry about that

Also, the mask seems to work because all of the lights are off but the problem is that since the mask seems to be rotating on a different axis or because they aren't synced up, the light doesn't go in a circular shape along the ring, but instead it goes in all directions

The is the ring itself and the blue light is the emissive light going through with the mask

[brittle gulch]

Hi there, anyone who already exported an anim in GLTF?

[cloud pagoda]

But these arrows show the trajectory of the mask which is not going the right way along the ring

[brittle gulch]

I'm trying to export my sequencer, which I can, but the animation doesn't play when I import it in gltf viewer.

[lost pier]

how is the post proccesing effect that makes corners of your screen like rainbow colors

its used in lot of games i dont know how to descibe it

[drowsy snow]

Chromatic Aberration (sometimes named Scene Fringe in engine)

[hollow bramble]

Hi, I have a problem. Scene capture 2D Camera does not capture the big water waves (Official Water plugin). Does anyone know what the problem is?

[lost pier]

thx

[lost pier]

how is this one called bc i was messing around with the values and i dont know how to remove this one

[drowsy snow]

That's the Lens Flare. Try reducing the intensity and increasing the BokehSize.

[lost pier]

ok thank you very much

[small basin]

I got the email about the Ninja Challenge today, so you'll likely get it soon if you haven't yet.

[drowsy snow]

Yep, just received the email.

Though I'm going to be concerned about the customs for the swag more than anything...

[trim mantle]

Yup, got it, thanks 😄

[plush yew]

What would be the best method in creating a aim down sight system, flip flop, timeline of base first person hands, or creating a camera on the base of the gun can calling that in reference to the base character blueprint?

[drowsy snow]

I think Hell Let Loose did it with some additive procedural anims.

[plush yew]

ahh so make the firstperson ADS anims additive, ill take a look into this

thank you

[wintry flower]

I've built UE from scratch on linux, and I want to remove the repo and all source files without deleting the actual engine. Can anyone tell me which files I need to keep around?

[drowsy snow]

I don't know if you can make installed build in Linux due to .NET Framework dependencies, but at least in Windows, you could make one from a source build. Installed binary builds have similar "structure" as vanilla launcher builds, and is intended for team use.

Though I know that you have to keep the source code around for new plugins to actually compile.

[wintry flower]

thanks for the pointer! I'll look into that

[wintry flower]

by new plugins, do you mean plugins that you can download in the marketplace for example? or is this only an issue when you're developing a plugin?

[drowsy snow]

It's the latter, or ones you get from GitHub and alike.
And since you're on Linux, forget about the marketplace entirely.

[wintry flower]

alright, that shouldn't be a problem for me then

[wintry flower]

haha yeah I was a bit disappointed when I found out about that, good thing I've still got a dual boot system laying around

thanks for the help

[chrome mural]

Hi, I have created a Layered Material in UE4, and I would like to export the base colour map.
Does anyone know if this is possible?
Thank you!

[drowsy snow]

Not sure what you mean, but maybe render targets can help "export" something out of a material?

[orchid hinge]

is there anyone who can rig 3d characters as freelancer work ?

[drowsy snow]

See #hire-a-freelancer

[chrome mural]

I want to export the base colour texture that it has been created after combining different layered materials.

[fringe rivet]

Hello

Does anyone know how can get softbodies into UE4?

Or, rather

turn an existing static mesh in UE4 into a softbody

[drowsy snow]

No, UE4 don't have softbody solution out of the box.

[fringe rivet]

What about Flex?

[trim mantle]

Ain't out of the box

[fringe rivet]

Hm, do you have any resources that I can use to learn?

[lavish lake]

hello, quick question (hopefully), for some reason my brush tool in landscape mode doesn't follow its strength. I haven't used UE in a while, so just got back and the ground paint is just as solid at any tool strength, there is no blending nor any falloff effect even though it set to minimal

[drowsy snow]

You'd have to "fake" it one way or the other. One that came into my mind is using skeletal mesh with a bunch of constrained bones.
There's also distance field method, but I won't rely on them, and not hardware inclusive as people might think.

[fringe rivet]

So basically, at the moment, there’s no way to get a true soft body?

Not even by importing from Blender?

[drowsy snow]

No. ||Not without sacrificing hardware inclusivity. ||

[fringe rivet]

Aw man

I guess Unity’s ahead in the softbody department

[rotund scroll]

all those delicious soft body games... locked away

[reef lotus]

does anyone have experience with the localization dashboard? I can't get my localization working

I've gathered the text, compiled translations, ticked the localization packages in the packing settings, changeed internalization support to all but when i use the set current culture node, nothing happens

[reef lotus]

in packaging settings, at the localizations to package, when I have "show localized" ticked, nothing shows up, could this be part of the issue?

[eager sparrow]

Hallo. I am seeing some behavior that I would personally classify as a bug, but I'd like your opinions before I log it as a bug, and perhaps get a workaround. I have a map, which opens up perfectly. It is from an asset pack I bought. If I do nothing at all to the map except save it to a new file, the terrain turns pink. Here is a short video demonstrating the issue:

https://youtu.be/jpzTj4UJhaw

This is a permanent condition; if I close UE4 and open it again, and open this new map, it is pink. If I open the original map, it looks as it should.

Does anyone know what the reason could be? Thanks.

[cloud pagoda]

Does anyone know how to fix this please

[muted imp]

My level doesn't say lighting needs to be rebuilt but I have preview text all over the walls of my world

[trim mantle]

Did you try to rebuild the light?

[muted imp]

@trim mantle I did and there was no lighting to be rebuilt. I clicked build all levels and nothing changed

[past eagle]

Hey guys, I'm still having trouble involving my main menu. When i hit play and enter the game itself, the controls stop working and I can't do anything. Nothing I look up is really helping- How might I fix this?

(Edit- figured it out!)

[eager sparrow]

@muted imp Please check in Project Settings that "Allow Static Lighting" is checked, then try to rebuild lighting.

[muted imp]

its loading up again ill check

[untold summit]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-20048692

[drowsy snow]

You can't import .uasset files.

[untold summit]

tried stuff and found out, thanks anyway.

[dawn gull]

Hey, how can I randomly rotate an arrow to anywhere within the bounds of a cone? If that didnt make any sense please tell me

[cyan cargo]

is there a way to download 4.27.0 from the launcher? I'd build from source but I am having issues there in Xcode

I'd use 4.27.1 but I am having a very specific issue that does not seem present in 4.27.0

[past eagle]

How might I make it so that I can hide / display a widget? My health UI is overlapping with my main menu and I'm having trouble fixing it.

It was, took me a minute to figure out where that setting was haha. Thanks!

[gilded hatch]

Good evening! is anyone around who might have some ideas about what would cause an auto material on a landscape look solid from a distance but when you move close it gets more and more holes showing the other materials underneath. This happens specifcally when the normals are applied and it remains a solid paint job when they are disabled. Any help would be appreciated.

[plush yew]

Okay just found something out LOL I had no idea this was a thing and you did not prob either. So Inside the Skeleton of your character, If you are adding Guns or weapons and you wanted to add the preview mesh to the Skel, you can Click Show retargeting Options and there is a Option to Show visibility of that model in that socket.

LOL easiest method to my madness.

Its hard coded into my stuff now xD

The socket now transforms the FOV scale, and position of the arms. I think valorant does this and thats why they dont have a FOV slider 😛

meh ill just spend the 80 bucks per weapon

_<

arm is twisting.

ohh add a virtual socket?

okay

[plush yew]

1) Go to UE Mannequin’s (target) skeleton hierarchy, click “Options” (top left), check “Show Retargeting Options”. All bones should be set to “Skeleton”, except ik_hand_root, ik_hand_gun, ik_hand_l, ik_hand_r – set them to “Animation”. Read more about this operation at UE Docs.

2) lowerarm_twist_01_<side> are keyframe animated to 100% of hand_<side> non gimbal locked roll rotation. To avoid improper lowerarm deformations for target skeleton:

Simple - remove them from humanoid rig for target skeleton before retargeting.
Advanced - create virtual bones which copy location/rotation of lowerarm twists at target skeleton hierarchy and assign them in humanoid rig to source skeleton lowerarm twists. After retargeting it will be possible to use this virtual bones as roll source for manipulating lowerarm twists inside AnimBP (with “Apply percentage of rotation” node). For custom character meshes with corrective blendshapes driving twists manually will be more suitable (via “Twist corrective” or “Pose driver” nodes).

they make it sound so easy.

So inside each animations just delte the roll key.

the product itself

im not understanding it.

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/AnimatingObjects/SkeletalMeshAnimation/AnimationRetargeting/

If i can not figure this out in 10 more minutes, i want a refund.

About to write a bad review.

1 star

[untold summit]

ue is so draining sometimes, ive worked on bps all day and it still doesnt work properly, its so demoralizing.

[plush yew]

yupp

until you get it to work then its

https://tenor.com/view/wow-omg-surprised-scared-kid-gif-10714204

[untold summit]

i couldnt agree more with this gif.

to be more exact.

i was working on bp which activates rotation animation when you move the camera to a certain point, but what happens is that the animation goes the exact oposite way from which i move.

guess i could post it, maybe somebody knows.

[plush yew]

are you getting the relative rotation and location in world space then modifying it that way?

[untold summit]

lemme post is first.

[plush yew]

ohh anim BP

[untold summit]

yea..

[plush yew]

Not my cup of soup, this is why i use montages

[untold summit]

may you refer me? id love to take a look at this material which you speak of.

[plush yew]

No not that

lol

hold on tho i know a tut for you for twisting

wait

[untold summit]

noo

[plush yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zVh1-4zmy4&ab_channel=MattAspland

[untold summit]

ah this doesnt help 😦

its because the whole premise is the mesh being glued to the camera, which i am not going for.

[plush yew]

Ahhh

your looking for like, starwars fallen order movement. (Made in UE)

[untold summit]

yea!

[plush yew]

After looking at that, you might need to some how make the camera and actor not connected

the character is bending to much from the camera movement.

[hidden dew]

@plush yew
Just wanted to share. Remember about a week ago we were talking about a way to render a sphere with 1000+ hexagonal tiles, each with an independently changing colour? We talked about static mesh instancing; making each hexagonal tile its own mesh and using instances where possible.
I thought of another way. 😄

[plush yew]

that looks good man!

[untold summit]

you mean detachactorfromcomponent?

[plush yew]

amazing job!

[hidden dew]

I was hoping to find something that let me still change the shape of the tiles at runtime as well, and I thought of a trick: I use Vertex Color data as a way to make the shader able to identify which tri any pixel is on.

[plush yew]

Move the character in game space and camera in world space.

[untold summit]

funnily enough the way the guy has visible cut marks after being hit in fallen order is also what i am going for xd

[hidden dew]

The kind-of-upstaged point of the gif above (upstaged by the deformation) is that the tiles are changing colour, even though they're also changing shape.
It adds 7 draw calls total. I'm proud.

I don't even know why it's 7.. it's just 1 material. But eh, I guess Unreal is doing other fancy things.

[plush yew]

looks good tho!

[hidden dew]

Yeah I was so stumped then had a light bulb moment

[plush yew]

I mean you could always get the world space with the camera something like this and then only move character with the mouse? idk lol thinking to hard.

[hidden dew]

Then a week of learning

[untold summit]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-9793003

i am so burned out rn

i dont wanna do the whole jump from one part of the project to another, i wanna make it in order, it would be such a mess otherwise, but this means hittin one brick wall after another.

[plush yew]

talk about a mess, i just spent 80 on a gun for it to be incompatible with ue4 arms.

AK works fine, when i pick up the sniper. bam broken elbow, and everything. Sockets are broken, reload wont change arms i have to make a separate socket for it....

[real dirge]

I find it annoying when I want to scale something in 1 direction, like for example, I just wanna scale something left, not left AND right. Is there anyway to scale in a single direction?

[plush yew]

Set Relative Transform, plugin reference to object.

oh your talking in the editor

LOL

[real dirge]

Yeahhh! x ddd

[plush yew]

its a secret 😉

[real dirge]

:/

[reef lotus]

does anyone have experience with the localization dashboard? I can't get my localization working. I've gathered the text, compiled translations, ticked the localization packages in the packing settings, changeed internalization support to all but when i use the set current culture node, nothing happens

[real dirge]

Well I found an article that helped me anyways

[untold summit]

that sucks-¨¨

[plush yew]

good or you could of gotten block out tools when it was free in the marketplace 2 months ago, and plugged in your mesh.

[round light]

hey everyone, looking for some help with a linetrace

trying to get it to fire on constantly when my players flashlight is on, having the hardest time with it
many thanks in advance for any pointers

[plush yew]

Wireframe Effect (tutorial) easy to follow taking only 5 minutes to create https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRoQEMd-7T0

[plush yew]

https://youtu.be/-0ilHFjykqc?t=1300

this?

[untold summit]

i followed a tut, hol on

[untold summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3W2ostR820&t=221s

this.

the mesh doesnt strictly follow the camera, it only follows via animation turning once the camera? turns enough.

[plush yew]

ahhhh

[untold summit]

i totally worded that wrong

i am so god damn high rn.

not in that way

real sleepy

i almost got it to work, it just turns around the other way..

look again, it almost works, i just need to change the direction lmao.

[round light]

baby steps👍

[untold summit]

i work in ue4 for just about 3 weeks now man...

[round light]

not a reference to your knowledge but that the character is actually taking baby steps

[untold summit]

that is so misleading 😄

[round light]

lol

but overall baby steps isnt bad, means your on the way to a solution too

looking forward to seeing you crack it

[round light]

i am that high lol

working on a horror project

[untold summit]

ever blacked out? that is being highm that was somethin.

[round light]

yeah but not from weed, thats all i do now a days

just got that dissolve character thats free this month to work

busting ghosts with a flashlight

[untold summit]

😄

[untold summit]

i wanna add that fuction aswell, but for killing.

[round light]

works great when the ghosts die

[untold summit]

like in sword art where they glow up before they die.

[round light]

i recommend it, lot of good looking ones, much more interesting than just a normal death and destroy actor

[untold summit]

i wonder if invidual limbs would work here aswell?

cut off a limb and add this to it.

[round light]

i dont see why not

there is or was a free dismemberment pack

works on multiple materials if your character has more than one too

[round light]

thats the guy

[untold summit]

free shit is nice 😄

[round light]

lol, my library is so full from it

[untold summit]

well, i guess its gonna bite my ass once i make a fully fledged game out of it.

theres something something with ue4 no?

[round light]

something what?

[untold summit]

where you need to pay a certain amount to ue4 after it reaches a milestone

[round light]

ahh yeah but i think its after like 50k

$

starting out you wont have anything to worry about unless you strike lightning in a bottle and make a flappy birds kinda game in popularity

but then i think its like 10%

[untold summit]

the thing is, i am solely focusing on the player aspect, no map, no visuals rn, i will make a solid ass battle system.

[round light]

hey go for it man, we are not limited by physics, rather our imagination

[untold summit]

and pcs..

[round light]

lmao

[untold summit]

i hope it is possible to run the game after its donme

i dont mean on shitty ones either

i mean on 2080 ti and up.

[round light]

i clean up all unused assets when im done

and package

helps on performance

[untold summit]

i mean literally just running it live with only the necessary components.

[round light]

theres optimising you can do to cover that im sure

[untold summit]

i guess, but i am sooo afaraid of the performance hit.

[round light]

ive a friend in the ukraine that sometimes helps me debug and opt

[untold summit]

imma describe it a little

[round light]

hey, you work with line traces at all yet?

cant get mine to act right haha

[young whale]

Hey All, I am EXTREMELY new to Unreal and I have an assignment where I need to create a Ferris Wheel that has 8 carts on it. I've created the wheel and have gotten rotation to work on it, but I have absolutely no idea how to connect the carts to it without it rotating with it. Does anyone have any advice?

[round light]

yeah

let me try something real quick

[neon bough]

when you rotate the wheel, set each of the carts to 0 world rotation

and make them child actors or static mesh components

of the wheel

[round light]

can attach them too with physics contrains and they'll swing

[untold summit]

you will spawn as a sword dude, the dude will be in TPP, you press battle stance with "insert button" you go into FPP , after that you press LBM to prep your attack, then you release LBM and do the actual swing with your mouse in a direction(freestyle)¨, then you press the desiganted button to go into TPP and reposition, then you repeat that.

[young whale]

This is what I had in mind but I have no idea how to do it

[neon bough]

well, that could also be faked, doesn't really need complex physics for that

[round light]

true, albeit a nice visual touch, not sure if its a school project but it'll help in an essay summary to add to your word count saying you did X to achieve a swing

[round light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erqu8mGJAYE&ab_channel=DeanAshford

[untold summit]

you learn fast when you got fire under your butt 😄

[neon bough]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-its-fine-everything-is-fine-burning-house-happy-dog-gif-21646319

[untold summit]

https://tenor.com/view/problems-dreams-anime-burning-life-gif-5322285

[round light]

putting something together really quick

[untold summit]

but i feel like i am moving forward somewhat.

but absorbing tons of information is what led me to be burning out last time i tried ue4

[young whale]

okay cool ty, I followed the tutorial, I got the constraint actor in there, but the cart isn't moving with the wheel, I think it's because the constraint actor is targeting the center of the wheel

[round light]

thats what im having trouble with too

[plush yew]

Anyone know if you can apply a keyframe to multiple animation sequences?

[round light]

ive had them stationary before, like a light on a cable but not attached to a moving object

[young whale]

interesting, I offset my cart from my wheel and it still doesnt work, turns out I'm getting an error for some reason

getting an error that physics can't simulate because it has ComplexAsSimple Collision, I have no clue what that is

[round light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCuoaoBz9S8&ab_channel=CoquiGames

[young whale]

I saw this xD I may open it up to see what they have that makes it not spin

[young whale]

I'm not even able to drag that into my world to see how it works

idk why

[round light]

open the project of ferriswhell

right click and migrate

[young whale]

what folder should I migrate to?

[round light]

your content folder in your project

[young whale]

Didn't work sadly

[round light]

will try in 1 sec, chatting in another group about an issue ive been having for a few hours

[young whale]

gotcha

[round light]

trying now

[young whale]

okay thanks :)

[round light]

you opened it in your current unreal version?

okay mines moving, let me migrate now

to your content folder

[young whale]

I didn't realize it had to be opened like that

What is making it so the carts on this version dont flip, but still rotate around

[round light]

gotta look in the blue print

[young whale]

I just found it in the blueprint

[round light]

yeah still rotates for me

[round light]

im not sure, im looking in the bp but not seeing where they connect

[young whale]

I don't see where they connect, I see that the rotation is locked for the carts though

[round light]

this is how they're doing it, with a function

[young whale]

can I do that same cart function, just in the level blueprint?

[round light]

?

like copy it to yours?

[young whale]

so the way they did their ferris wheel was through an actor blueprint, I initially did mine through level blueprint

[round light]

oh yeah

i dont think a level bp would work

idk

[young whale]

okay

[round light]

this is cool tho. now i have a ferris wheel lmao

i think you can get in and ride it too, and mess with the controls

awww yeeee

and yeah when you walk up to get on it slows down, when you go to the control booth it stops

i like that

thanks for the question @young whale i had fun looking into it, can learn a lot looking at other blue prints

[young whale]

I may still ask a little more depending on if I can figure this out! :P

[round light]

sure, always down for a chat, may not know the answer lol but im down to look and try

[young whale]

So I'm trying to input my static meshes in instead of theirs, and mine are much smaller, so when I try to line everything up, the rotation of the carts is off, they fall off the rails and don't stay connected to the wheel

I can't seem to find why that is

Also my wheel only has 8 carts, so that may be it, I don't know

[round light]

mine works

we trash riding today fam

[young whale]

LOL

[round light]

how did you change mesh

[young whale]

So I see the problem, my wheel mesh is too small (smaller than the creator of this's mesh), and I don't know how to edit the size of it'

[round light]

the scale

[plush yew]

Does anyone know what i should so to update the hands on reload like this? The gun should be in the left hand, and the right hand should be cocking back a bullet. I have no ideas on this one....

[young whale]

The Scale doesn't work, because it also scales up all the carts

It wont let me only scale the wheel, or atleast I can't figure out how to only scale the wheel

[round light]

i think (emphasis on think) theres a way to transform the bone in the animation when the reload plays

[round light]

are you editing it in the blue print?

[young whale]

Yeah

[round light]

gotta detach the carts from the wheel and base first

[plush yew]

hmm so add a anim notify, and then call it and update bone? how would i un socket it from skel then?

[round light]

i wish i knew more, my mind would take me to see how long the reload lasts and you transform the arm down out of camera view then back up when its down with a keyframe

[young whale]

okay, so I got all the sizing right, the rotation is still wrong, and it's because I have 8 carts instead of 10

I don't know where the setting is, but I need to make the angle of rotation just slightly tighter

[round light]

im thinking something like this, add a key to start when the reload of the gun is up the arm goes out of shot, then you add more keys to bring it back

[round light]

that shouldnt make a different

just set the extra carts to not visible in game or delete them

delete the ref in rotate cart too

[young whale]

It makes it different because I have to line them up equally

[round light]

be easier if i could see what youre doing

[young whale]

I

I'll send a video of how its offset one sec

[round light]

or add key frams to the the arm where you want in frame so it looks right

[plush yew]

Yeah but this does not remove the gun from the socket lol it stays locked in hand

[round light]

i dont think so

but idk

i dont think it would

[plush yew]

So i would have to detach component from actor!

ohhhhh

makes sense.

[round light]

looks like you just need to reposition the carts to me

[plush yew]

Lol what kind of game are you making? or is this for school

[round light]

think that'll work?

[young whale]

Its just an assignment that we have to make, I'm not really the guy in my group project that touches unreal much, I'm the graphics guy, but this assignment has us doing it individual so I'm having a bit of trouble

[round light]

can zip me the file

[young whale]

sure, I'll add you on disc and send you a google drive link

[plush yew]

If i somehow get this right, it will work. My idea would be, detach component from actor, with a anim notify, and when reload finishes reattach to actor.

[round light]

hey that sounds like a good route too

[plush yew]

sounds like the wrong way to approach this LOL. I'm looking at this guys code that i bought this from, this guys code is like wtf?

all this for a sniper rifle...

when i can do it with out all of this

[round light]

at least it has some labels

ive seen spaghetti bowls

[plush yew]

lol

ZERO documentation.

only sniper on the market with arms tho

[round light]

any you want, just arms?

[plush yew]

No fully rigged guns with arms.

[round light]

no body tho

[plush yew]

no need for it I set up a full body with no head for realism.

so when you look down you see body and legs.

[round light]

ahh i see now

[plush yew]

and then the other characters

see a whole different animation sequence.

[round light]

ive that low poly fps pack

was $$$ af tho

[plush yew]

yupp 60

and garbage

[round light]

naw the like 300

i mean 150 i think

[plush yew]

i paid sixty it was on sale for like 70% off

low poly shooter pack is bad tho..

arms rigged wrong

everything is meh

[round light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZWLHdWuPeQ&ab_channel=InfimaGames

this one?

[plush yew]

Yeah

[round light]

damn, i always miss the sales lol

[plush yew]

when 70% off happens i buy like 800 dollars in crap becuase you never know when you need it

i know EVERYTHING on the market.

lol

[round light]

been awhile since i looked at it, been some updates

i couldnt get my character s to work in the past, looks like they made it easier

[plush yew]

i havnt look at it in like 4 months

they might of updated it

only thing i wanted was the animations

[round light]

idk, i had a lot of fun with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p8sK82Pzy4&t=207s&ab_channel=NebelungGames

thats what i did with it

zombies and hostages

[plush yew]

Yeah but thats not really learning tho

copying and pasting 😛

[round light]

lol, ive learned a lot

[plush yew]

me too man 🙂

[round light]

can learn a lot from looking at bps and seeing how things work

and adpating systems

[plush yew]

haha i do that all the time

[round light]

kinda closed minded not to allow yourself multiple means to learn

[plush yew]

everyones code is different unless there code is a youtube eye sore

[round light]

damn pasta bowls

[plush yew]

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-shader-confused-unreal4-unreal-engine-gif-15378565

[round light]

travolta in there like wtf

[plush yew]

people make some of these damn codes way to complicated, when they dont ever need to be.

[round light]

100 ways to do something, X out of 100 are much better options tho

cut the fat

[plush yew]

someone was telling me a need a whole animation bp for everything for my guns

you know what i did? added everything into the blueprint itself

lol

[ebon stirrup]

hiya

[round light]

hola

[plush yew]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-there-hello-sup-swag-gif-17652416

[ebon stirrup]

how yall doing

[plush yew]

Is there a short cut for custom events like branch's?

[round light]

losing my mind, so- so i got that going for me

[plush yew]

b + click is branch

[round light]

yeah, idk the one for a ce

[ebon stirrup]

there is B for branch

[plush yew]

yes i said that

lol

thats why i said like

[ebon stirrup]

for custom events nope

[plush yew]

there should be

_<

[ebon stirrup]

maybe they should let us add shortcut keys to every node

[plush yew]

or allow hotkeys and allow the user to add the node.

[round light]

custom macros always remind me of wow

[plush yew]

so anim notifys can only be called in a anim bp?

ugh

[ebon stirrup]

yee

but you can use custom events

[plush yew]

hmmm

trying to think about this..

[ebon stirrup]

BTW you can write that code in the anim bo too

[plush yew]

you cant

it needs to be in the gun itself

becuase that is the actor

and i need to call it to the anim

which is connected to the player.

accessed none.

[tender pecan]

478GB DerivedDataCache. what fresh hell is this? LOL. My poor external NVMe is working overtime.

[young whale]

So I'm trying to start and stop a Ferris Wheel with a click of either mouse button. Does anyone know why this isn't working?

[untold summit]

progress...

i still have no idea how to stop it from snapping back.

[untold summit]

help D:

oh wow, didnt know theres a mixamo converter.

i consider making something like a focus mode like you got in for honor aswell

because i dont want camera movement while in battle mode but i do want the player to stay on the enemy.

🤔

[narrow loom]

how can i make a button for transformation
Robot to car

and robot has human walking etc

And car has d r i f t

https://tenor.com/view/optimus-prime-trucker-transformer-truck-transform-gif-12542854

like this

in ue4

[untold summit]

Animations would probably work, youd have to make them yourself.

[narrow loom]

but how do i add the property

car

button

vroom

[untold summit]

you add buttons via inputs that are in edit>settings>inputs, those buttons then need blueprints that tell them what to do, you can then add sound effects to those buttons.

[reef lotus]

is this a mixamo animation?

[untold summit]

yea, i tried adjusting it a bit.

[reef lotus]

yeah, tbh I tried using mixamo, but it had too many issues with things like these

[untold summit]

i might not even go with it, depends on if i can salvage it and do something close to rootmotion.

[reef lotus]

I think as much as it sucks, I would learn how to animate

because you can make exactly what you need

[untold summit]

ultimately id want random sets of animations that are different to eachother, playing at random intervals to make the moving and stopping feel natural.

turning aswell

but i think i can learn all this

the real hard part will still be making the FPP controls which stem from VR stick ported to a mouse and keyboard.

not fpp camera

but the battle system while in FPP

think blade and sorcery but with physics.

[reef lotus]

hmm interesting

[untold summit]

it is

but its also a nightmare

[reef lotus]

yes that's generally what game development is

[untold summit]

i am working in ue4 for about 3 weeks now

maybe a little more

and i am just having a hard ass time

[reef lotus]

yes i started 5 years ago and i'm finally releasing a game lol

[untold summit]

oh really?

whats it about?

[reef lotus]

1st person soccer

also 3rd person

[untold summit]

funnily enough were on a closely related wave lenght it seems hah!

i am also gonna attempt to include FluidNinja real time blood splashes and and fog.

via collision hit detection.

if i can manage it.

[reef lotus]

hmm, never heard of it before

[untold summit]

its quite recent, its basically real time physics of water, fog, everything to do with similiar materials.

[untold summit]

like that

[reef lotus]

dang that looks so good

[untold summit]

yea, now imagine slicing an arm off with those effects.

..

sorry

a lil brutal.

but thats basically the idea.

[reef lotus]

i would have to see what the liquid is like

yeah people do like gore lol

not all

but that's why the "Saw" movies are a thing

you're not really young are you?

i hope i didn't just tell you what that movie series is for the 1st time lol

[plush yew]

if you are young dont look it up

[reef lotus]

whoops

im dumb

[plush yew]

anyway, does anyone know how i could get speech to text offline?

i guess a string output?

someone can answer this one?

https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/1003461/view.html

I can get the yaw but I am trying to detect the future rotation to substitute it for a turn animation

there is any node that can cut corners regarding pathfind logic?

ah, ok, get the yaw Player vs. MouseClickPosition

but if someone has another spark for when the Player is on path moving,

[untold summit]

nah dw.

[plush yew]

wait what the heck

is that real time

[untold summit]

yes

[plush yew]

:0

that is very cool

[reef lotus]

yeah that's crazy

i wonder if it needs a super beefy pc to run it

also wonder what the frame rate is in the clip, looks a little slow, still really impressive tho

[untold summit]

got rt 2080 ti, i wouldnt know 😄

[untold summit]

thats due to the recording

[plush yew]

even so in cinema 4d that would take many moons to render

[plush yew]

also sorry but i gotta ask this again

[reef lotus]

i do not know unfortunately

[plush yew]

that is actually the coolest sim ive ever seen

[reef lotus]

it's movement seems more believeable than most i've seen

[untold summit]

now imagine this real time fog while going through a dark dungeon.

[drowsy snow]

Imagine Leviathan emerges from that vortex, and all you have to fight her is a fantasy airship equipped with a mounted MG.

[untold summit]

i have a better plan mate 😄

[plush yew]

that would be epic

[drowsy snow]

Sssshh..

It is my plan, no need to compare it.

[plush yew]

can you do a cold smoke sim? (falling)

[reef lotus]

he showed that earlier

[plush yew]

oh right

[reef lotus]

.

is it a plugin then? or how would someone use it

[drowsy snow]

This is a plugin, at least the non LIVE version, one would bake a fluid simulation into a texture.

I personally had my own fluid sim going on, with a cheeky Niagara Grid2D tricks.

[reef lotus]

im such a noob, i go with super basic graphics

on an unrelated note, has anyone succesfully used the localization dashboard?

i've googled like crazy and asked here a couple of times now, can't seem to find an answer about it

[untold summit]

thats a good thing for making the systems, i will do most of the graphical stuff after i know the fighting system is solid raw and make you shit your pants everytime you fight.

[reef lotus]

yeah I might hire someone to help me with my graphics for my game post release

[untold summit]

heres the idea on how the dungeon will look like.

if you arent scared to go around every corner awaiting death, then i failed.

[reef lotus]

is this a clip from your project or is it a showcase for fluidninja?

[untold summit]

this one is his, but since i am doing basically the same thing it doesnt really matter, just making it more dense, cant be bothered to make gifs today 😄 i worked on the animations all day, to no avail, i think what i wanna make is just not gonna work with what i have right now.

[reef lotus]

yeah mixamo is really not good practice in my opinion

so many limitations come with it, unless you make massive edits to the animations

honestly if u wanted, i don't know if it is good for VR, but i have a base mesh skeleton I use for any projects I do

I could dm u link to it

it has some basic animations built into it

[untold summit]

...why do people stil lthink its vr, the only vr component will be the freedom of moving your weapon however you want, nothing else.

[reef lotus]

wait so it's not VR?

[untold summit]

nooo D:

[reef lotus]

i mean you mentioned VR that's why I thoght it was

[untold summit]

its a monitor, keyboard and mouse game

just the controls will be vr oriented

BUT with mouse and keyboard

[reef lotus]

i mean that is kind of confusing

[untold summit]

yea

i need a better way of explaining it.

[reef lotus]

so yeah if you're explaining it that way you shouldn't get mad when people interpret it as being a VR game

[untold summit]

its blade and sorcery but without the vr.

no its just

i am mad that i cant find out a way to explain it.

[exotic thicket]

sounds like Die By The Sword type controls

...if anyone remembers that ancient game

[reef lotus]

i sort of know what u mean, but if you use the mouse to control to sword, how do you look around?

[untold summit]

i do.

[reef lotus]

do you just move your sword more to the right or left then it starts to turn

[untold summit]

its like for honor.

[reef lotus]

oh so it locks on

i see

[untold summit]

yes, and in that state you swing the sword.

[reef lotus]

ah ok that makese sense

that's kind interesting could be interesting to see what it feels like

[untold summit]

very fun i tell ya right now

[reef lotus]

do you have a prototype for it?

[untold summit]

with proper physics.

dude.

3 weeks

i am not a magiciian 😄

[reef lotus]

well you said it's very fun right now

made me think u had it implemented

[untold summit]

i thought about for so long now its basically real now lmao, it will be fun.

i can guarantee it

if nothing else, fun.

thats the first thought that comes to mind

scary, but fun.

if i had a prototype

id be running to kickstarter this second

and funding a game

[reef lotus]

well, honestly I would encourage you not to get ahead of yourself, you're only 3 weeks in. It will not be an easy task and there will be many trials and tribulations, i think it's important you manage expectations so you don't set your self up for failure. Just be prepared to put in work and deal with frustration

and learn to do well in it

and it could take a very long time

[untold summit]

its do or die at this point, i never fail to do what i set out to do.

i used edit alot.

to*

[reef lotus]

these are things I think you should be aware of going into a large project

[untold summit]

if i could, my first ever real effort went into this vid, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAHYK0oIl1g&t=2s

this shit took 6 months.

i burned out so many times, but that sure as hell didnt stop me.

nor will this.

[reef lotus]

how old are you out of curiosity?

[untold summit]

24

[reef lotus]

same

[untold summit]

lmao

i said so dude, were on the same wave lenght 😄

[reef lotus]

lol idk we just happen to be the same age

[untold summit]

i am just having fun, i am also dead tired, dont take it so seriously mate.

[reef lotus]

im not i'm just chillin, i wish i could get help with this problem im having

[untold summit]

as stated above, i burned out alot during my editting journey, this seems to be the same.

[reef lotus]

yes if you don't pace yourself at 1st, you will burnout forsure

[untold summit]

i am that kinda guy

[reef lotus]

at this point i've developed a tolerance

[untold summit]

i just cant control the urge to absorb information

[drowsy snow]

Managed to trim down huge frame time for the volumetric clouds, I'd say PS4 can get this 60 FPS on 720p easily.
Though I'm still not satisfied with the shadow mapping, and I have to eventually replace the wind system with my own fluid sim, based on God of War's implementation.

[reef lotus]

yes i know what u mean, it's not neccicarily bad at times but overall you should focus on long term production

[untold summit]

yea, i set a date for myself, this may seem crazy but i wanna have a working demo of what i said in the first half of the next year.

bullet points

[reef lotus]

do you specialize in graphics?

or graphics programming

[drowsy snow]

Simply said my fascination is more into animation and VFX stuff 😉

[untold summit]

-fluid movement
-free-style FPP/TPP battle system
-collisions
-physics
-1v1duel
-sound effects
-Proper mesh for both actors
this is what the demo will be.

[reef lotus]

nice

do you do work for hire?

im not trying to hire you right now lol

just curious

maybe i could later if u do

[drowsy snow]

Not really, but I do make animations.

[untold summit]

https://tenor.com/view/a-goldmine-of-talent-talented-incredible-brilliant-driving-gif-11158881

[reef lotus]

you do hand animation of characters?

[drowsy snow]

Yeah, I make animations by hand (and video references). No mocaps.

[reef lotus]

1 sec i want you to judge my animtation skills

i will link a trailer for my game

i'm just curious what you would think, if it is your specialty

https://youtu.be/fMfLoTnTKIw

they're pretty rigid tbh

not very fluent, but they get the point across

you should see the animation blueprint it's a mess XD

[drowsy snow]

I'm going to imply that more stylised anims is what you're aiming for, so yeah.
The movement animations definitely needs improvements, particularly with how little the hips/pelvis area is moving when the player runs around. A teeny bit of exaggeration would help.

[reef lotus]

you think it's not moving enough?

the hips/pelvis i mean

yeah i can kind of see that now

it's pretty stationary

[clever harbor]

yo guys, can i still add C++ classes when i've already create Blueprint project ?

[reef lotus]

yes

[plush yew]

i have free time 100% minus a hour or less of making food per day, I started last year thinking that I would have a release in 360 days, I am at the bare bones of my project

sometimes I tend to wake up, turn on the computer till sleep since I am fasting

[reef lotus]

yes this is what I was trying to say. It does not go the way you will expect it to

[plush yew]

just take it easy, indie dev. is hard stuff if you charge A* quality

[reef lotus]

until you have lots of experience at least

[clever harbor]

Thanks!

[plush yew]

not even mentioning gave up desires from my most wildest dream, which is to become a indie dev.

so yeah, I do reaffirm Brylos, take a huge amount of care of your brain and rest of the body

[drowsy snow]

It's easy to get burned out by the game dev stuff, especially when you have a cool system in mind but went blank when looking at UnrealEd.
If I'm not planning for machinimas, I'd waste my free time practicing Tetris TGM lol

[plush yew]

hehehe

that is a good hobby

mine is cycling and for the first time in my life, is the time that I do not think in anything

before game dev. it was a activity of let my mind wander in thoughts

[regal mulch]

Pretty sure you can burn out pretty fast on GameDev.

[plush yew]

yeah, standards of AAA industry is like a great spell of fire cast over every indie

and they are made of dry grass

[regal mulch]

If you have something pushing you all the time, then it's pr obably worse

Like a Publisher and what not

If you are still free to decide, take breaks, don't do more than 8 hours a day, maybe even go and make a 4 day week instead of 5. Take vacations, etc.

It's so easy to just not do that

And the burn out is creepingly slow and you only notice it once you can't look at the engine anymore without feeling shit :D

[plush yew]

one of my problems as solo, was aiming too big and then feeling bad for the withdraw

[regal mulch]

Makes sense, but on the other hand you learned a lot

I haven't released anything yet (myself) and actually paused all internal projects to first plan everything out, get (paid) help etc. and we now slowly start.
We all have our dead side projects :D

But working 2 years on The Ascent scared me a bit tbh

So much work

[reef lotus]

i'm actually crazy, because I've only commited to one project and I commited 5 years ago and now i'm finally releasing. it's actually insane for me to think about

[regal mulch]

It's reeeeeeaally hard to picture the amount of work at the start

Specially if never done before

[reef lotus]

yes i had no idea it would take this long

[regal mulch]

There is so much more than coding a few systems

[reef lotus]

but now I think I can make many more games much mor eeasily

[plush yew]

plus the rate pace you go

sometimes it is hard to model a low-poly tree in a whole day

some days you just do insane amount of work

[reef lotus]

yeah it's weird like that

probably has something do to with psychology

[plush yew]

at least i prefer these spikes rather than constancy, as i always dragged myself as an extremist

[regal mulch]

Yeah that's why I'm partially interested in testing out the 4 day week at some point

But we are groing atm, so have to get that stable first

[plush yew]

there a couple that lives on a sailboat, coding open-source stuff and they typed about 5 hours at maximum is a good amount for these type of work

[drowsy snow]

Some consumers' atitude towards indie games didn't help either.

Not to mention the whole paranoia surrounding marketplace assets.

[regal mulch]

I'm pretty sure a lot of coders and dev slack off hard on 8 hour days

You just can't stay concentrated otherwise

At least not for long

[plush yew]

yeah i would raise that; i like being a dev. and may now i am getting the joy of it, but playing what industry proposes is just too much... i prefer playing some other rat race

[reef lotus]

yeah tbh, with the way i handle it, is if I'm feeling really frustrated like I can't make progress I have to step away for at least a few days

[regal mulch]

Sadly not everyone can do that

[reef lotus]

yeah

i really hope it all pays off

[plush yew]

shall we not forget what game industry is

sorry for that,

but it is a bunch of people waiting for the next bloody realistic game under too much workforce

and it is the dirtiest industry, as we are running on conflicted mineral computers

[reef lotus]

i mean it's every industry really. the people on top control something like 80% or more of the market

[plush yew]

otherwise, is **** awesome

[plush yew]

yeah but some are at least, food and public services

[broken heath]

No construction industry is the dirtiest

[reef lotus]

yes

as a person who has done it, yes

[drowsy snow]

Sometimes it made public perception skewed towards those expensive prods than indie prods.
And let's not get into some assholes making drama out of marketplace asset usage.

[reef lotus]

yes I think one thing that has become very clear to me while devleoping my game, people don't neccearily like AAA games better, they've been marketed the idea that they like it moreso

it's kind of a dumb theory i have

sorry

launguage

100%

but all those companies put like 50% of budget into marketing

[drowsy snow]

More of oversimplifies, due to tech hype and whatnot

[plush yew]

yeah sure, but there is a point where big industry is making the consumer (which probably will consume successful indies) into shit mechanics

why do you think grind exist?

[reef lotus]

to me when people play my game, they really like it, but the fact that it's not developed by some big company makes them percieve it as less valuable

[plush yew]

or lootboxes?

[drowsy snow]

Oh god, fuck gacha in particular.

I'd say that I'm an outliar for hating gacha, when every otaku drool for it.

[reef lotus]

as far as i'm concerned the AAA industry is literall just make the same crap every year, give it some different branding and people just buy it up for some reason

well yes, but my point is, people can get enjoyment out of my game, more than some AAA games, but they still see it as less valuable

[drowsy snow]

You know, RTX, those kind of crap

[reef lotus]

probably yes

you have a point, i suppose my complaint isnt an economic one, it's more of peeople perception of value.

idk whatever

im just bitching cuz i can't do as well as them

lol

wdym?

ye i'm the same i spent a long time debating if I should pay for realstic graphics or not

i just went with wat I could make

as stylized art

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1583320/Pro_Soccer_Online/

[drowsy snow]

One of the goal for my game is this, and I quote:

It is to be expected for anime styled games to either have gacha, or ridiculous DLC.
Let's break the norm by making anime style game, with the generosity of The Witcher 3!

[neon bough]

there's only one rule for anime games

and i guess i can't write it down here 😄

[reef lotus]

XD

[plush yew]

lol

[drowsy snow]

Yes, I'm embracing the kinky stuff, don't ya worry m8

[reef lotus]

yeah that's what it is, definitely not big titties

[neon bough]

you have to

[plush yew]

i read a manga once about a person that is a trans dresser and made friendship with some other people, it was awesome

[neon bough]

it's funny how EVERYONE knows even without saying it xD

[plush yew]

and they are fascinated about jellyfish

[reef lotus]

lol

[untold summit]

i am back

[plush yew]

or an anime about a group of friends that went to Antarctica, brillant

[drowsy snow]

I would be genuinely flattered if someone make a particular fanwork of my characters in the game, the fact that they spend time doing that.

[untold summit]

dozed off on my desk

[neon bough]

they grasp for every straw, don't worry about fanart

as long as you come up with some unique characters

[plush yew]

loll

[drowsy snow]

No, I won't lmao

[untold summit]

i am being realistic with the scope, i am not making a landscape or anything that requires much artistic prowess, that will only come down to two meshes, even those can be bought, i only have to worry about making a working battle system and adding physics + colliisons

i am moving mostly in blueprints, which is something that i can bruteforce with enough will power

[drowsy snow]

Honestly I'm pretty lenient when it comes to fanwork of my characters, be it mods, artworks, or self made manga of certain type.

[plush yew]

i took a look at those, they look awesome

[drowsy snow]

Well, kind of. I don't want to be strict about it, but at the same time I don't claim their canonicity. Something that Chinese anime mobage creators are guilty for.

[untold summit]

this is something i am not even considering for the demo, not even a little bit, but i dont see why i couldnt add adult content to a game which lets people rip and cut limbs off, make sashimi out of everything.

[plush yew]

that can be hard interpreted

generally we do sex for fun, pleasure

[untold summit]

gotta say, i was hugely disappointed with subverse

what a letdown

i was expecting a mass effect type of game without the censorship.

that is true, but there are plenty of reasons to add it.

[plush yew]

if i add on mine, would be for reproduction

but i just do not want to represent it

i hate having the idea of having children

why i would represent in games?

[untold summit]

in my case itd be more of a necessity, if scale allows, npcs should have enough freedom to do daily jobs, walk around doing chores, going shopping, daily stuff, that includes the topic above.

as an rpg it only makes sense.

[plush yew]

i am in the bubble of: what i believe for life, is what i create

it is being interesting

is more than a year that i do not play video games or watch films because violence

what inb4 stands for?

[untold summit]

as much as i dont wanna reference it, what identity was going for is the same thing i am aiming for with a full release, i could never afford that without crowdfunding, but its a damn shame that we got no game that really elevates game standarts.

?

[plush yew]

people want to consume nanite stuff

and lumen ones

[untold summit]

maybe i missed a great game, but i didnt really see a game which reinvents the wheel.

the only game which i am honestly shaking to get my hands on is project M

its like eating the same cake day after day.

[plush yew]

do you mean having regenerative tyres?

or friction close to 0 so we can trail it and use less fuel?

[untold summit]

okay

the only game which i can say is even remotely interesting in years is this one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpE7WE9yc6w

i didnt say this one specifically does, its the only one lately which looks like actual fun.

[plush yew]

maybe breaking the wheel and rebuilding it involves a bit of thinking what type of controllers do we use in games (VR is new and have a lot of room)

[untold summit]

i am working on it, gimme time 😄

[plush yew]

anyway, a known mechanic game with thematic will always get into the major public

just think the hype for GTA 6

same bit, from the third game in franchise

[untold summit]

gta 5 was a stepdown in terms of features.

[plush yew]

oh gosh, i had a blast driving around the city

[untold summit]

you cant be a police guy, you cant have a real brawl with peds.

[plush yew]

the physics of vehicles compared to the 4 (which i did not played more than some minutes in friends house), worth it my money in that time

[untold summit]

i spend hours just brawling in gta 4

thats how much fun it was.

[plush yew]

oh, i like driving around and that is it

[untold summit]

and for some damn reason "nope were removing it"

thats the problem, if i had it then i wouldnt be making one.

okay i need to type this shit down on a note block or something.

okay here i go

[plush yew]

WAIT

if it is about your game, and has new mechanics, i suggest to keep to yourself

i do not think so

if it is really new

[untold summit]

it is

nothing like it

[plush yew]

so just make it and then show

of course you can share, but remember that you are using Discord

under thousand of people

but then, if it is a good one?

[untold summit]

this is so complex yet so simple i cant see how you could NOT enjoy it.

[plush yew]

we are made of thoughts

consciousness still is a mystery for us

[untold summit]

god i wanna type it out

its so tempting

[plush yew]

yeah, sure, it is a bit paranoid but idk, i do not feel comfortable chatting about what i am trying to do

[untold summit]

it makes sense.

[plush yew]

if it is new and do not exist and possibly is a good idea

[untold summit]

i can guarantee you one thing

[plush yew]

you can not guarantee nothing, just an idea for now

[untold summit]

if i release this shit, nobody will copy it cuz without crowdfunding youll be a drop in the bucket.

the costs are astronomical for the full game

but i do believe that its just that good.

[plush yew]

yeah, sure, but if it is in the ballpark of Minecraft...

but the whole game in alpha was a blast

it was the last truly joy i got from video-games when i played the first version of alpha

the experience of Minecraft is to build, in voxels

[reef lotus]

zinox, i think you really need to focus on getting the work on the game done itself rather than telling everyone how awesome your idea is. if you can't make it a reality than it isn't worth anything. I know this is kind of harsh, but it's the reality of trying to make it in this field.

[plush yew]

today we just have mods into it, as in late alpha / beta TONS of mod to have any creature that you want etc.

[untold summit]

i am making it as we speak, i am just so tired i cant do much more at this point.

[reef lotus]

no not at all

[untold summit]

like i said, i did the edit till i burned out and i repeated this till it was done

[reef lotus]

i'm saying that he has this idea that it will be super new and never seen, but you said yourself, it doesn't make sense to uptalk your own ideas withut having them actually exist

[untold summit]

i am just excited because i know what it will do.

[reef lotus]

i'm basically saying control your expectations, it will be a long time to make a project and it will probably not turn out how you imagine it

i'm not by any means saying give up tho

[untold summit]

dude, i am a complete extremist, i do what i set my mind to.

i dont fucking quit.

[plush yew]

you probably young

[reef lotus]

i'm similar, and I'm telling you from personal experience that you should try to temper your enthusiasm, because it can fade when you hit a roadblock

[plush yew]

but explaining detailed what you consider a new mechanic to a thousand people server is asking to POSSIBLY having someone ahead of you

[untold summit]

24 is still pretty young sure, but that doesnt mean i cant have a will of steel.

[plush yew]

i mean, age is just a number

you can be young at 44

who knows

[untold summit]

hah 😄

[reef lotus]

I also didn't tell anyone my idea for my game for the 1st few years, I thought someone would steal it, and actually people had similar ideas to mine, but didn;'t do it as well as I did

[plush yew]

yeah, if i did coded and modelled my game, even not observing one at the market I would not mind to share

[untold summit]

i just know that nobody did this, if somebody does, id be glad, cuz that means people have the resources to do it and id stream it.

[plush yew]

in mid / late stage

can we not teach it to know how to internalize?

marker = market

[reef lotus]

honestly I agree with hips, you have to understand that you are competing with every other form of entertainment, you have to make something that people consider worth their time more than everything else that's available like netflix, hulu every other game on steam or whatever else

[untold summit]

its not a bubble if its being made, it is literally being made right now, its just a matter of WHEN not if.

[plush yew]

yeah, sure, every FPS will look different, but still, they are FPS and people already have CoD or Battlefield

it is like someone making a minecraft clone today

[reef lotus]

but m8, you're 3 weeks in, it could take you easily 2-3 more years to get an actual finished product if not more. Are you going to last that long, and keep this enthusiasm

[plush yew]

maybe you can be lucky in a african app store with lootboxes for items

[untold summit]

like i said, i used to edit, this is not my first time dealing with something thats way above me in every possible way.

[reef lotus]

once again i'm not saying to give up, I think you need understand that you are in for a rough road with no guarantee of success

[untold summit]

i added parts everyday, until it was finished.

[untold summit]

thats fine aswell.

[reef lotus]

i agree with hips as well, you should confirm that people do like your idea

[neon bough]

and pretty much everything was made before

maybe out of your scope

[plush yew]

but first, show them with an actual game, rather than a text block

the lesson Zinox, is to chill out. life is very tough regarding what you think it will be and what it will be

[untold summit]

okay again, i dont QUIT, EVER.

[plush yew]

i remember in my 20 years old cycling at night to moutains, bivouac there and then return the next day without much food

today?

[reef lotus]

that sounds awesome

[plush yew]

i have the strengh

but no way