you know nothing of my project
#ue4-general
static viper
it was really important to switch engine mh?
crisp arrow
impossible to complete the project without it
static viper
if this is a client project
tell them its gonna take time 😛
have some time to spare
crisp arrow
is there a resource for parsing the maps and making changes?
static viper
yes
crisp arrow
via C++ or anything
light thunder
@crisp arrow just export them to excel and import them back as a data table
crisp arrow
@light thunder Oh I've never seen that capability - how would I do that?
light thunder
If you are comfortable in C++ it should be much easier, but there are some plugins that do Low Entry file managing, and you can save to a file that way
crisp arrow
I'm very comfortable in C++
light thunder
there is a blueprint one as well for excel actually on MP, though I haven't used it
So you write a function that exports to CSV, then import that into new version
crisp arrow
ah ok! I've never seen this. Thanks!
is there a good way to iterate over all the maps and all objects of a given type within them in order to do this?
light thunder
That's where I think C++ might be able to help you
First, figure out how you would handle a single level
crisp arrow
I should specify - I'm very comfortable with C++ generally, but have little experience with using C++ with the unreal engine haha
light thunder
So when you export to a CSV, one of your elements should be the map
Youtube is your friend and remember you have the option of searching for blueprint, because if you can do it in blueprint, you can definitely do it in c++, not the other way around
crisp arrow
yeah I know like... what I would do architecturally. I just don't know how to begin doing that within the engine
like I don't know what sort of "entrypoints" are available to me
but I think it would be fair to suggest that I should search this all myself haha
crisp arrow
they're variables on two different types of objects both of which are basically just physics cubes. The original variables were the "constraint" variables that could be set per object on Static Mesh Components.
Due to some difference between the 4.17.2 version, and the 4.20.1 version, these can no longer be set per instance on objects that have blueprints attached, so all of their values have been wiped out. I wrote a C++ function that takes 6 arguments and made a blueprint node for it. It sets these variables per instance.
I promoted those arguments to variables inside of the blueprint
light thunder
Wait, what are the blueprints attached to the instances?
crisp arrow
Things that were there before I got here haha
light thunder
Also, can you give me an detail on the use case?
crisp arrow
the whole project is blueprints, which is not my strength at all. They do need to stay there
light thunder
I've had to become somewhat literate in BP because syntax is a tool of the devil and I refuse to play his games
crisp arrow
I'm not sure what you're looking for - they lock the rotation and translation along these axes in order to cheat physics a bit for puzzles
the blueprints do some random other things, I think mostly related to some sounds and resetting positions, etc.
Right now I have two versions of unreal open, and I started going map-by-map, object-by-object and copying the values from the old version's old variables to the new version's new variables and I realized I'd be doing this for days and decided I should probably at least look into a way to automate it because it feels extremely automatable.
light thunder
okay I get it, you never actually have to have physics enabled, but you need those axis per the instances to basically have the level's function, they form a sort of layout for the way the puzzle is
crisp arrow
The physics are enabled
(and frankly I know it can be automated since I have the full engine source code right here lol)
light thunder
Just a thought, couldn't you take the velocity of the overlap event and just use that to set the transform upon the constraints? a timeline would work, if you were able to take in the velocity appropriately, would need tweaking and doesn't solve your problem
crisp arrow
these constraints are set... "artistically"
there's no logic that I can use
to automatically discern them
light thunder
Let me ask you this, how do the devs know what the solution is? like when they were planning a level, did they have a general drawing or order ?
crisp arrow
please... I've thought about all of this extensively haha.
It's 100% artistic choice, I'm not sure it's a good choice, but it's how it's done and I have my task
light thunder
I get it but since you are having to spend the time to restructure it, the benefit of making a more procedural cube could mean they could make levels automatically or easily by hand, extremely fast, but I digress...
spare herald
Could anyone help me with a problem i'm experiencing regarding Audio? The chat for it is kinda silent.
light thunder
I haven't played with instantized static meshes much --that's what you have to use correct?
tawdry hedge
Hey, does anyone know how I can check the UV of my landscape?
crisp arrow
the levels are all made
light thunder
How many are there?
crisp arrow
If you can help me with the conversion process, I'd really appreciate any input you have. I don't really want to keep justifying my attempts though, please understand
there's about 100, many have dozens of objects that would need to be converted
light thunder
What type of objects are they, just instantized static meshes?
crisp arrow
yes, with blueprints on them
light thunder
that's what I am confused about, what do you mean blueprints on them? Do you mean they are instantized blueprint actors? scene components? what is there class, blueprint wise
crisp arrow
yes sorry - I'm not fluent in unrealese yet, I believe they are instances of a blueprint class
light thunder
Can you show me a BP? at least the class/name stuff, or the outliner of it?
crisp arrow
I don't believe I can. It's client work and I have no idea what we signed
light thunder
You seem to have 3 tasks at hand - 1 exporting data out, 2 importing it back 3- hooking data back up so it's consistent
crisp arrow
yes - exactly
light thunder
3 - would be easy if you didn't care about running a special conversion everytime you ran it but that's asinine
That's the one area I'm not sure about, making it persistent so you can access it in the editor - you can have savegame objects but I'm not sure how exposed their data is
If you can make a savegame object and expose that as an accessible asset in the editor, that might work for you
hell, if you do that, you 'might' be able to just import the savegame asset, no data table crap or exporting outside of unreal (other than to a newer engine version)
If you are comfortable with C++ you should be able to do it there, just need to make a structure with all of the variables for all of those actors
then you save that structure to an identical that exists on the savegame object
after that, normally you would have to load the savegame object at runtime to access it's data - but should be possible with C++ to access it somehow
crisp arrow
you think it'd be unrealistic to use whatever facilities are available in unreal to try and parse the map files, yeah?
light thunder
I don't know enough about the structure of the data you have - but I'd look at savegame objects because you CAN import those into a newer version without any issue
so just make a savegame object with the structure of all your data and in the old version, run it once with that function to save and populate the savegame data
crisp arrow
okeydoke. I really do appreciate the help!
light thunder
good luck, let me know if it was helpful, I have no idea what I'm doing
crisp arrow
haha ok, thank you!
maiden sundial
Is there a way to stop looking through walls like this ?
I settet my camera like this;
light thunder
is there a spring arm there?
maiden sundial
No, i was not sure how to do it when i use it with a socket
slate urchin
Hey, do we have help channel here?
static viper
just ask a question
slate urchin
So, I've made new landscape and I can't paint foliage on it. It works on bsp and static meshes.
I've googled it but can't find solution
static viper
do you have landscape activated do paint on?
slate urchin
yup
static viper
show landscpae
slate urchin
the painting dome is showing up, but doesn't place anything
maiden sundial
Is there already something when you try it ?
static viper
well do you have a foliage active?
slate urchin
I do have foliage active, I can paint on other things, except landscape
maiden sundial
@light thunder Is there a way to use a spring arm when i placed my camera with the socket ?
static viper
well show the landscpae
light thunder
@maiden sundial how many videos have you watched on this?
slate urchin
not much to show.. just the default settings
maiden sundial
I learned the socket part from only 1 video
slate urchin
flat ground
maiden sundial
And spring arms i saw maybe on 2 vids
But this videos aren't only for the spring arms
slate urchin
Ok, sorry, figured it out... I've been placing wrong assets into foliage type window. Strangly it worked with static meshes and bsp..
sudden agate
not sure if it's the right place to ask:
Has someone seen a plugin that resembles a Tile 3D Editor?
Multiple Heights, Stairs , hills etc. and everything done with brush functionality is what I need.
unkempt lotus
Hello Everyone! I've got an issue, I was creating a carbon fiber material in Substance Designer but for a material like that you need to add 2 Normal maps to the material for the clear coated look and to do that you have to enable the "Clear Coat Enable Second Normal" setting in the Project Settings. After I enabled that option I had to restart the engine but now every time I try to start up the project, loading gets stuck at 45%. Does someone know how to fix this? I've opened the DefaultEngine file in my Config folder of the project and found this: r.ClearCoatNormal=True, if I set it to False or delete it could that fix the issue of the engine not opening my project?
unkempt lotus
Lol the moment you said that the editor window popped up😂
Thank you anyway, almost got a heart attack when I thought the project was broken
light thunder
Just making sure I understand sequences - they won't execute future ones until all the events, like loops, have finished on an earlier sequence? (I mean, that's the point right, to control execution flow)>
sudden agate
@light thunder exactly
the only exception are Delay and other Latent functions in a Sequence
light thunder
@sudden agate I must be doing something wrong, probably need to make the sequence inside the loop? that breakpoint fires but that loop should have gone through three actors
sudden agate
light thunder
It was a simple confirmation 😃
vale silo
is there any difference between making MP game for PC and Android ? (talking about multiplayer specifics, not the game/mechanics overall)
cursive dirge
bandwidth maybe?
I dunno if that's really an issue with modern day mobile connections tho
plush yew
Anyone have a clue about the bandwidth of a destructible window? At say, 10 cycles per second?
vale silo
@cursive dirge I would only allow mobile MP via WiFi
I don't think 4G is fast enough (at least not on T-Mobile where I live)
wispy raven
Hi, I’m kinda new to ue4, I’m having problems with the Dynamic GI, every time I move the light source, the shadows become visible, but when I build the light (production quality) the shadows disappear
vale silo
UE4 is not the engine (at least not stock one) to be messing with if you want Dynamic GI
vale silo
Dunno about that.. Websites take forever to load on 4G here (while the same websites load much faster on WiFi)
also, traffic is metered and Android device I am making stuff for has WiFi-only connectivity
split wedge
if you move your assets is their a way for the engine to relocate them after moving?
split wedge
i meant moving to a different folder but someone gave me answer
split wedge
no from folder to folder in project
rapid geode
right click the old folder and press "Fix up redirectors in folder"
idk if thats what you mean
split wedge
it is haha, thanks
vale silo
@wicked tiger @elfin jacinth By chance, should we get excited about upcoming AI training streams in Q1 2019 ? 😃
elfin jacinth
wicked tiger
We've had a few requests for AI streams. We'll see what we can do about scheduling one!
signal minnow
Is it possible to test UE4 games (using steam multiplayer) in a VM Box running on my PC?
weary basalt
@signal minnow If you can run Steam on the VM with a separate account you maybe able to.
signal minnow
i have a steam test acc w/ game override key on it
Because then I don't need to publish my game files every time i want to test so my buddy can download and play.
And my pc can handle a VM.
weary basalt
Do it and see if it works.
signal minnow
Not sure what's a good VM, never really screwed with VMs
crisp arrow
Sorry I'm a bit of noob - what's the easiest way to run a C++ function inside of the editor? I've been hijacking the construction script of an object, but that's becoming annoying and is obviously a crappy hack lol
ideally I'd like to trigger it from a menu or something
but I'm really just looking for the easiest way for me to move this function somewhere that I can trigger without spawning an object
weary basalt
@crisp arrow Put the function inside the GameInstance and use the UFUNCTION(Exec) specifier, this turns the function into an executable command in the console.
crisp arrow
Perfect. That sounds exactly like what I was looking for.
weary basalt
@boreal shadow Im guessing its landscape foliage? Cant you just unpaint it in with the Foliage tool?
boreal shadow
yes its landscape foliage, ive tried unpainting it but it didnt work
the landscape was flat, ive sculpted the river and the foliage remained at its previous position but also generated on the sculpted area
lol restarting the engine fixed it
signal minnow
Instead of a normal VM, I've decided to try out Hyper-V as I have a Win 10 Pro license might as well use it 😄
crisp arrow
I'm editing my GameInstance - I added a function to its blueprint and I see there's a checkbox for "Call In Editor". How would I even call a blueprint function from within the editor?
hoary silo
PLEASE HELP, When ever i do certain actions in the editor, it completely restarts or crashes my AMD 480 graphics card
(Mostly crashes)
whole quarry
what are those actions?
hoary silo
Mostly just editing particle systems
whole quarry
so what do you do? spawn 100000's at once?
hoary silo
no
just about 500
it will even happen when I click fullscreen on the window
It could be that my graphics card drivers are unstable
plush yew
hey guys do you think you can make a game without any coding? or even basic? if you cant could you suggest some coding videos to watch or something?
hoary silo
yes
rapid geode
update ur drivers @hoary silo
hoary silo
I've tried to do that, but it still crashed @rapid geode
rapid geode
it doesn't look like you're on the most recent version
try reinstalling graphics drivers from amd.com
hoary silo
Did that too
rapid geode
then if that doesn't work delete Unreal and reinstall it
hoary silo
will my projects still be there
hoary silo
ok
hoary silo
WTF
hoary silo
not you, this post
ancient otter
OFC IT LOOKS BETTER
rapid geode
idk some people might like the contrast
ancient otter
i was looking for it too look how it rendered 😂
hoary silo
its cool tho 😉
ancient otter
but for some reason it does not look like it should on voewpoer
oh yeah saturation is too much i know
rapid geode
did you build the lighting
ancient otter
its vxgi
torpid sierra
noise from post process or?
rapid geode
okay idk what that is so time to leave
rapid geode
is that like a rendering thingie
rapid geode
dude i meant in UE4
ancient otter
and its more realistic
rapid geode
and if its more realistic then obv its going to look more realistic
ancient otter
oblique sorrel
Are graphical settings I change with console commands being saved to an .ini somewhere, or do I need to build my own system of saving game settings?
plush yew
is it true that when you program in UE you have to compile each time when you changed code and want to see the changes in the game?
plush yew
does untiy the same?
high stone
@elfin jacinth I found the right person to contact. Thanks for the help!
silver crown
@plush yew yeah compile time sucks compared to unity C#
novel ember
how do you achieve a double-ended linear gradient?
silver crown
Really slow
novel ember
right is what i'm trying to achieve
silver crown
- need to restart the editor
novel ember
iirc it has something to do with either pow or sin
grim sinew
1- and then multiply on top of the original
and multiply by 2 afterwards to get it back to the full 0-1 range
novel ember
terrific thank you
merry gazelle
what do you guys think about allocating residential property in my game to users registered on my website? The idea is to add some personality but people could even maybe propose missions, communicate with each other and collab to unlock codes redeemable outside of the game.
I'm considering using the UE web browsers for this purpose
plush yew
anyone experienced build lighting geting stuck at 0%
plush yew
@open eagle what did you do to fix it?
viral herald
hey guys, i got a question
i am trying to animate a model that will have detachable body parts (example, a robot that launches its fist)
how would i animate that?
do i animate the body seperate and add the hand in the engine?
or do i animate it all together and then there is way in unreal to remove it?
grim ore
the robot launches the fist but what will that fist do?
#animation might be a better channel for the question and I am no artist but that is a really good question 😃
coarse osprey
Create your mesh without he hand, but with the bone for it, in the engine you can add the hand through a socket located in the bone
You can unattach it when you need
coarse osprey
Just remember, you still need the hand's bone, even tho the hand itself is separated
viral herald
got it
open eagle
@plush yew Get A better CPU or graphics card, I have a ryzen 5 and a gtx 1060 and Ue4 works great
@plush yew I never get that "CoMpIlInG ShAdErs" crap when Im in the middle of a project
I used to get It when i was using a laptop
plush yew
@open eagle never had this issue until today
open eagle
?
plush yew
normally takes 10 minutes to build for me
open eagle
Just restart Pc or whatever if u get it too constantly
or figure out what you do in the editor that makes the engine wanna compile shaders so bad
plush yew
I just migrated the third person template into my project, and it's not working for some reason?
I literally do not understand why it's not working.
Can anyone help?
thick herald
Have you called the A-Team™?
rapid geode
Tbh you provided 0 information so there's no way anyone could help
You just said it doesn't work
Did you set the game mode to 3rdpersongamemode or whatever
plush yew
The game mode in world settings? I just tried that, didn't work.
Though I've just noticed that the playerstart's parent class doesn't say navigation or such
from the original template
zenith flower
To reduce a little confusion, they should have two redundant events for every generic event that run on both server and client by default:
BeginPlay
BeginPlay_Server
BeginPlay_Client
(really its just a hidden has Auth node, but still)
plush yew
erm...
Just placing the third person character blueprint and player start....
On my own map.
It's supposed to work, is it not?
zenith flower
lol
I'm talking about networking and replication. There is too much of a learning curve of "unknowns"
having "explicit" client/server events for
beginplay
tick
onoverlap
ect
would make it immediately clear, that there is more than meets the eye
Also, just because the server has an character instance, and is running its begin play
does not mean the client does
weary basalt
Problem with doing that though is there is still more "unknowns" your not accounting for.
worn granite
Yaknow
weary basalt
If you separate it to _Server and _Client, you still wont realise that _Client can mean any Client connected
worn granite
if they were gonna do that, I'd want it to be like validated get
where you can do it with any entry event
vale silo
how do I disable tonemapping in the SM5 Preview ? (I need for it to look close to how ES2/ES3.1 Mobile Preview looks)
weary basalt
Yes but there could be any number of Viewing Clients
worn granite
I can do this feature for ya if you want
worn granite
o
zenith flower
but maybe you could submit to unreal?
What I mean
is, its nice to have
for the community
worn granite
when your attempted hook fails
zenith flower
it would have been nice to have before I learned the hard way
The networking compendium, doesn't explain more than the "general" idea
also, it doesn't teach you that you shouldn't be doing everything in beginplay
The first line I would write in the Compendium is
"Stay the f*** out of begin play, You probably are doing it wrong anyways"
pallid compass
I think that's common sense
zenith flower
to you
worn granite
remove all delay nodes
pallid compass
Well
zenith flower
amen
zenith flower
delay nodes are replications cousin
fleet cedar
Does anyone else find it hard to show stuff of that you programmed to friends? I feel like 90% of time the main focus is on the art
zenith flower
yea, you go ahead and explain why execution order changes PIE vs Dedicated vs ClientServer
worn granite
@fleet cedar yes
pallid compass
Because things aren't synced derp
worn granite
just make the stuff you program really neat
pallid compass
This isn't the Hydron collider
zenith flower
Actually they are, but only if you understand how they are synced
pallid compass
Actually there Rly not majority of the time
zenith flower
All im fucking saying, is there is some simple changes that can be made to the engine that would just make more sense to the new guys
pallid compass
Even root motion rep is not totally synced if I wanna get tekky
zenith flower
changes that wouldn't even hurt current projects
worn granite
@fleet cedar in example:
zenith flower
you have no idea what you are saying
pallid compass
Least I can admit when I'm going full potato
zenith flower
you are an ass
pallid compass
And you are potato
zenith flower
I could care less if they made a macro for every event
pallid compass
Wat
worn granite
That'd be a p silly way of implementing that
zenith flower
BeginPlay -> Has Auth -> BeginPlay_Server
pallid compass
Sounds stupid af
zenith flower
-> No Auth -> BeginPlay_Client
pallid compass
Can see issues already
worn granite
You wanna be able to right click on the output exec pin of an entry event, and say "Expand to network role switch"
worn granite
That's the feature you should want
zenith flower
sure, im just saying now that I know better I can handle it
pallid compass
Would this be asynchronous taskes then
worn granite
I'm working on some changes that are similar to that (albeit for Get)
zenith flower
wtf are you talking about Rei?
pallid compass
Waiting for network roles to confirm they have executed
worn granite
....
no.
he means inline HasAuth
But like
as different events ? (that's his idea)
Which is dumb IMO
zenith flower
Hey, I don't care how long you've been here, what youve done for the community, or who you are. Fucking take that shit somewhere else, you know-it -all
pallid compass
What has that your to do with execution order issues over network being unsynced
zenith flower
I'll take my infraction
pallid compass
Wow angry boi
pallid compass
Dw I'm chill
weary basalt
Stop being an arse hat to him then
worn granite
Heya Devils. Meet Rei.
zenith flower
Just because you don't understand it, does not mean its automatically dumb
weary basalt
You were both being arse hats, its pretty clear, just stop.
zenith flower
I've spent two years on my game avoiding anything networking related
pallid compass
I think I get what your saying either with the different exc methods but I think that's dumb
What I don't understand is err
What that has to do with things being unsynced
zenith flower
Its for the new guys, not for those who know how already
its for those new
Its something I struggled with
and a simple and stupid extra event_client event_server
would have made that clearer to me
worn granite
I think tackling misunderstanding through additional "magic" features isn't likely to help
zenith flower
its literally a cosmetic addition
pallid compass
Yeah that's lack of engineering I guess
worn granite
Its a non-trivial addition, and would likely be a setting anyway.
worn granite
Network Comp makes it clear after reading it a bunch and getting your head around it.
zenith flower
You should be able to right click any event and split it into the various networking paths
zenith flower
and it wouldn't break a single existing game
worn granite
If I were gonna do it, that'd be how I did it.
Not sure that it can be just any pin though.
zenith flower
maybe booleans?
pallid compass
Custom pin time
worn granite
Would have to go look throuhg ExpandEnumsAsExecs again.
Nah exec is fine
its like.
All execs?
Iunno.
pallid compass
If u expand a custom pin type do u have to update all that meta data handling stuff too?
worn granite
I'll toss it on my list.
zenith flower
Thank you
worn granite
What?
worn granite
You gotta give me more, that's not a question yet Rei.
pallid compass
Err
Custom flag data stuff I think
U ended up making two cup functions
I think it was meta handling stuff
worn granite
No that was for attempting to add a way to deprecate UFunction meta.
Has nothing to do with if pins were split.
pallid compass
Ah right okay
Thought there was custom functions for handling meta data for pin types
Hard coded shit
worn granite
There were going to be
pallid compass
Rekt
worn granite
I mean
Pin Meta is "handled" in many functiosn
but it really depends on what aspect of meta you want to talk about
pallid compass
So glad I never need to make custom bp pins
zenith flower
@worn granite One day, you should pack all your plugins together called "Make your f***ing life better" pack.
worn granite
Well.
pallid compass
Well
pallid compass
'shit storm pack'
worn granite
Cause by that time I probably can't monetize em.
zenith flower
Screw him
zenith flower
You can have that immutable
pallid compass
Build modelling rendering software in to ue4 from scratch
worn granite
If I do a "Unreal Life Improvement Pack" or w/e
pallid compass
Gonna have big fun time writing math
zenith flower
Just make it "Development Only" like they do with Print
zenith flower
Because I've not tested it outside of the editor
pallid compass
It's either that and spawn million object s n lines
worn granite
WHO NEEDS TESTS
pallid compass
Hey immut
Try saying
Specialized template inheritance class 10 times fast
If u do it in the mirror slate comes and takes u away
zenith flower
Hahahahaha
Speaking of.... They need to fix making children of widget bp's
The work around is annoying
pallid compass
What's wrong and with it?
zenith flower
You can't right click make child
Have to make a new widget
Open class settings
And reparent
pallid compass
Oh I do that all the time
Haven't right click make child of something in like 3 years
Or
zenith flower
My focus will always be ease of use
zenith flower
Yes, still
I love that they focus on new feature
But they keep adding technical debt
"Won't fix"
"By "design""
zenith flower
I've even seen "we should and could, but would take a lot of time"
Nooooo
I've learned from immutable
You won't see me PR anything
Unless I was "pre-approved" to do it
zenith flower
I'm a single developer on my game, I don't have the time or energy to worry about maintenance
I work around everything in blueprints anyways
I've abused everything I've touched
pallid compass
Welp u can't expect epic to cater things to the minority
pallid compass
Talking about revenue
plush yew
I feel really dumb as it Is, can someone answer this:
https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/content-creation/1572539-importing-templates-to-other-projects
pallid compass
If they started catering to beginners we'd have a pbr RPG maker
zenith flower
In all seriousness, just what's already there would be fine
When they fixed structs in BP, it made a world of a difference
zenith flower
Yes, used to have major issues using and setting variables in structs
Also lots of crashing
pallid compass
When
pallid compass
I do not recall that at all
zenith flower
I have structs all over my game
pallid compass
You might of been doing odd and silly stuff then
zenith flower
Can't recall the last time I had to manually copy a strict just to change a variable in it
Or a crash
pallid compass
Well yeah bps basically copy struct for nearly everything
zenith flower
I believe there is still an issue with an array of structs
Sure, but but you used to have to do it manually
Anyone hear about the shit unity pulled with spacialOS?
pallid compass
Been awhile since I've done any appending structs in BP but I can't really recall any issues
zenith flower
They rewrote their TOS to put them in violation
Then offered and exemption to current game devs using it
But didn't off the same to spacialOS to support those devs
Now spacialOS partnered with unreal for a 25 million dollar fund
pallid compass
Rekt
zenith flower
To help those migrate from unity using spacialOS
And unity's problem? Spatial OS is a "platform" not a server
coarse osprey
@plush yew you probably forgot to set your pawn in the game mode, that's why.
plush yew
@coarse osprey what do you mean exactly?
coarse osprey
First you have to create a game mode
It is a blueprint
Or if you already ahve one
You need to assign your character blueprint to it, so when the game start, you can control it
plush yew
@coarse osprey The Third person Template doesn't have that though? Why would I need it?
zenith flower
@restive raft In your GameMode, you need to handle the player joining, spawn the char/pawn and posses it, if you do not select a "default" pawn in the GameMode settings
plush yew
Third person Template doesn't have that blueprint?
zenith flower
You're telling me Third person Template does not have a gamemode?
plush yew
...? No?
plush yew
@coarse osprey said that I need to create a game mode BP. But that's unseen in the TP template
So erm...?
plush yew
In the settings?
zenith flower
They go in order:
Global
Level
OpenLevel -optional GameMode setting
Just assign it to the level you want it to load in
If you open a level with a special command, it will override any GM
If you open a level, regularly
plush yew
So how does that assign the player start?
zenith flower
it will use the one assigned to the level, unless its blank
which it will then use the "global" one in settings
let me look
it picked the first player start it finds
(which is unreliable, if you have multiple player starts)
So:
in your game mode
in the function tab:
click the override button
and all the "default" behavior that you can override is there
such as "Choose Player Start"
plush yew
Why isn't this added to the details pane with the character or PlayerStart instead
zenith flower
I know right
because they don't want to overload new users
When you are ready to learn more, you will go looking
the shitty part is if you don't know where to look
you have to come here or google
plush yew
So balls.
zenith flower
(you should make a habit of checking out all the overrides for each blueprint type)
like PlayerController, Actor, GameMode, ect
Also
check out the "unimplemented" events
plush yew
Alright so how would one have multiple spawns, like you mentioned earlier, for a random spawn?
zenith flower
rightclick anywhere, and type "event" and look at the available events that you can hook into
plush yew
Unimplemented?
zenith flower
(anywhere in the graph)
it means, that there is no default behaviour
BeginPlay
Tick
OnOverlap
ect
You won't find those in the "override" section
By default, they pick a random player start
you can actually pick the one you want using the player start tag
ill show you
Very basic and does not handle "no player start found" issue
Then in your player start:
(It would be PlayerStart1 in this case, not MainMenuSpawn)
@plush yew
plush yew
Thanks. Looks like you keep very clean BPs
meager hemlock
coarse osprey
Tell us your problem
zenith flower
@plush yew Yes I do
Not to mention I had just built that for you
its a good habit to get into
cyan burrow
what's up with the looking for work and looking for talent channels?
and, anyone want to work together? i'm new to game development (been working on it for just 2-3 years about), but i'm working on it every day, and i have a 3d artist working with me also. if anyone else would like to join us and colloborate our efforts into 1 game
maiden sundial
Guys, how can i avoid this :(
I'm already using a spring arm
violet goblet
Hey folks!
Is it somehow possible to reuse nodes?
like i create node "alpha" in my material and use it,
and later i have tu use it again somewhere so i can reuse it without creating another "alpha"?
abstract relic
I assume you mean some custom properties. In that case, yes. Look into material functions and material parameter collection
violet goblet
thanks alot @abstract relic
coarse wigeon
fierce rampart
Interesting looking tool.
tame stag
@coarse wigeon unfortunately, no links or release date in the description...
grim juniper
Their Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/abrown/worldkit-streamlined-world-building/description
coarse wigeon
^
plain token
Hi
in this project i have used two different mesh with same base color but its looks different in viewport even after bake ..both have same texture density . Any solution for this issue..?
keen frigate
Good day/afternoon everyone 😃
languid shard
@plain token 1) they dont have the same density, quite obvious on your shot :p
- this is a problem with CPU lightmass, you have to either increase the quality of your bake, or install GPU lightmass which fixes this problem
plain token
@languid shard Thanks for the reply . I will give the gpu lightmass a look , i will add u as a friend so if i face any issues i will drop u a msh
msg*
plain token
sure
static viper
that article sounds absolutly ridicul
likewise that it is fake news.
where is that article
cloud cobalt
Looking at the Steam page, seems legit
2675 reviews, so minimum 50k sales, probably 100k
wary wave
the Chinese love it, IIRC
there's a really active forum thread on the UE4 forums about it
static viper
show
ionic oxide
He or She received a grant from epic
static viper
noone can show a link
static viper
clearly fake
cloud cobalt
It's... not fake ?
wary wave
I'm not entirely sure it is an entirely solo effort, but yeah, it's a real game
static viper
now that someone posted a link
ionic oxide
I remember the first post on WIP thread on forums
static viper
something like this needs alot years in solo
maybe paid for some assets
clearly the characters
cloud cobalt
Well, yeah
static viper
there is too much high quality here to be done by only one dev
cloud cobalt
lmao
It's a shooter with UE4 - arguably the genre most well-suited to the engine, it probably does use plenty of asset packs, and I see no reason why it wouldn't be a solo effort
cloud cobalt
Our game was a duo effort, with basically three paid assets
I think quality was fine
ionic oxide
IIRC he is a modeler
static viper
its really not a favorable story at all
ionic oxide
cloud cobalt
Why are you so mad about this ?
I'm happy to see an indie succeed commercially on Steam
static viper
the article
it clearly gives away that one person can do all this. Shadowing the bad sides of gamedev...
as if we are all like that
cloud cobalt
2.5 years of work, and the main assets appear to be from the dev
static viper
as if that is the standart now
there are alot of games done by tiny crews its nothing new
but this article depicts it as a world record
cloud cobalt
¯_(ツ)_/¯ My next game is a solo effort and I fully expect the same level of quality
Shipping 100k units solo on Steam in 2019 is very newsworthy
static viper
its not ok.
cloud cobalt
Why not ? It's a great project that has great success
cloud cobalt
One person did do this
cloud cobalt
Oh, I thought you had a problem with the game
My German is too rusty for the article 😉
static viper
after i told you that i was on about the article already
you just now clicked
XD
the garbage in that ue4 thread
some of these commenters...
thats a new low also
someone makes big thing... and suddenly everyone is his best friend
cloud cobalt
Sorry but you sound super jealous here 😛
cloud cobalt
Of the developer.
static viper
some of them sound like fanatic fangirls
he must get so much hate for not answering
cloud cobalt
So basically gamers ?
static viper
ofc one can be jealous of a devgrant
there is no way around it
i dont think those are pure gamers XD
cloud cobalt
No idea how you'd be jealous of someone being successful. Do great work, reap great rewards
In this case, do a great-looking Chinese centric game on a platform that's newly popular in China
Surprise, it sells
ionic oxide
Hey Stranger, are you working on another space game?
cloud cobalt
I'm still working on Helium Rain tbh, but my next project is a bit different and not really space
ionic oxide
Are you going to release new content to the game?
wary wave
the Chinese market accounts for 30 million active users on Steam, so having a Chinese-centric game there is gold right now
paper kernel
someone should take these spline functions and light them on fire
cloud cobalt
@ionic oxide No, probably not. We're focusing on a mod kit for now, hopefully to release soon on the Epic launcher.
unreal spoke
Can you guys recommend ue4 compatible character creator middleware/tools?
wary wave
Maya.
paper kernel
Spline key at distance of spline length returns 1 /tableflip
unreal spoke
@wary wave no, I mean character creators for users.
ionic oxide
@cloud cobalt That's cool
cloud cobalt
@unreal spoke Character creation is pretty involved artistically
And programatically
Not sure there's so much resources
unreal spoke
yep, but I know there are a few options out there but I can only find the one in the marketplace... And I know there is one that is considered (or promoted as) the best character creator tool but cannot find it.
violet goblet
Hey guys, does it actually makes sense to create soft edges when i know the mesh will go into unreal engine for a game?
(never fully used unreal engine)
violet goblet
my initial idea was to use soften edges on haircards (so i dont have to add multiple edges on cureves)
split wedge
hello i have tried to move my game mode a couple times now and ive fixed up redirectors everytime but it wont work for some reason
ruby robin
Guys, is it possible to start packeged build without render window?
unreal spoke
Does anyone remember an official video from epic in which, among other things, they showed a character creator from an external company? Maybe 1-2 years old. I'm checking their videos in youtoube and cannot find it.
plush yew
@static viper FAKE news!!!!
cursive dirge
@violet goblet that's not really how meshes work
if you want smooth round shape like in the latter image, you'd need to add more geometry
violet goblet
oh, okay
violet goblet
is soft edges for renderings only than?
cursive dirge
in meshes, soft edge just refers to normal shading
violet goblet
i am clueless, so this means what exactly?
it wil work but not? 😃
cursive dirge
you can only fake the lighting with it, you can't bend the texture to appear round
plush yew
anybody know why my build lighting gets stuck at 0% it was working perfectly fine a few days ago
cursive dirge
for the texture to bend smoothly, you need more geometry
violet goblet
aha!
bending the textures works only in maya then like on the latest image
cursive dirge
yeah but that's actually doing subdivision for the mesh there
if you bake it down, it has a lot of polys
ue4 has some support for mesh subdivision but it used to be really bare bones and you had to enable it at mesh import
violet goblet
what a great explanation! thanks a lot!
cursive dirge
but ultimately, it just baked the polys in the final mesh so end result is the same if you bake in the modeling tool
violet goblet
never read a better explanation for it, now it makes totlay sense 😄
plush yew
@ruby robin far as i know, yes
ruby robin
@plush yew How? 😃
opal coral
Hey, trying to take some cinematic screenshots, but when I click 'Eject', I don't see certain particle effects (such as my smoke). Ideas for how to display it? Some particles show, but not that one.
Edit: Solution : Game view (G)
obtuse marsh
Hi, I just joined this server. And I am looking forward to learn develop games . I have already wanted to to do this but I didn't had enough motivation but I have finally made up my mind that I have to start from somewhere.
keen frigate
@obtuse marsh Welcome and good luck on your journey. 😃
merry gazelle
Is there any reason not to make my buildings as character pawns
I will have several attributes similar to characters and I could possibly do some cool input related stuff
jovial bobcat
I need some help with packaging ;o if anyone could be so kind and check out what my issue is that would be awesome ;/ (It's about UE multiplayer via steam sessions)
lament oxide
anyone aware of good procedural generation tutorials using pre-set rooms?
plush yew
@lament oxide https://api.unrealengine.com/INT/Videos/PLZlv_N0_O1ga0aV9jVqJgog0VWz1cLL5f/mI7eYXMJ5eI/index.html
shrewd gorge
I'm trying to set an onhit event, but RootComponent is undefined:
// Use a sphere as a simple collision representation.
CollisionComponent = CreateDefaultSubobject<USphereComponent>(TEXT("SphereComponent"));
CollisionComponent->BodyInstance.SetCollisionProfileName(TEXT("Projectile"));
CollisionComponent->OnComponentHit.AddDynamic(this, &AFPSProjectile::OnHit);
// Set the sphere's collision radius.
CollisionComponent->InitSphereRadius(15.0f);
// Set the root component to be the collision component.
RootComponent = CollisionComponent;
This is in UActorComponent
Should I have made an Actor through C++ and not BP?
I thought applying a C++ script to a blueprint Actor would work.
Also, my actor already has a collision, why would I have to create a collision via C++?
First time doing this, sorry for any wrong assumptions.
frosty bloom
@shrewd gorge Try place RootComponent = CollisionComponent; directly under CollisionComponent = CreateDefaultSubobject<USphereComponent>(TEXT("SphereComponent"));
regal mulch
Creating a Component inside of a Component is not really what you should do
What you are doing there is required to be in an Actor Child
shrewd gorge
Aha.
I just have a blueprint actor class to which I added a C++ component.
Can I perform it that way, without using Blueprint scripting?
regal mulch
The BP Actor should already inherited from a Custom C++ Class
You can use that Custom C++ Class to spawn your Component
merry gazelle
@regal mulch Why not? 😛
shrewd gorge
@merry gazelle Let's be on point please I'm very confused as it is : D
regal mulch
And bring tons of stuff that I'm not sure if a Building needs that
The Class is really made for humanoid characters
shrewd gorge
So I should be spawning a collision component, even tho my mesh has collision set up?
merry gazelle
right thanks, I figured the character pawn might impact performance but wasn't 100%
regal mulch
No, you can keep your Mesh for that if that already has collision
My main point is that the code you've posted doesn't belong into a Component
shrewd gorge
Is it even needed? That's what I'm trying to understand.
If the mesh has collision already setup, why would you have to create anything additionally?
regal mulch
In that specific situation, probably not
But there are a lot of other places where more than one collision makes sense
Like a second sphere collision to overlap stuff
shrewd gorge
Aha, okay.
So is it possible to register a hit event within the C++ class on a blueprint actor?
Checking if I should do this all over or not..
Was I doing it wrong
regal mulch
You should be able to have an Event Calling in the Component if it is a primitive
Well if it has a hit event in the first place that is
E.g. if you make a child component from a collision or mesh component
shrewd gorge
So I have to set C++ class as child to the Asteroid mesh?
Then it should register hits?
regal mulch
I'm abit confused as to why you can't just do that all in BPs
Do you want to avoid BPs?
shrewd gorge
It's an assignment to get into a volunteering team, to learn more about this in a group environment. I should be doing this in C++.
regal mulch
Alright and where do you want to get what HitEvent now?
shrewd gorge
In the C++ class, AsteroidsClass on the left.
regal mulch
AsteroidsClass should be getting the hit event from the Mesh?
regal mulch
Did you, by any chance, use Unity before UE4?
shrewd gorge
I don't have any experience in game development.
regal mulch
Well, UE4's components don't like to talk much to each other
Mainly cause you can't easily get a reference from one to another, neither ensure that the other component even exists
shrewd gorge
So I should've created the actor rather as C++ class?
regal mulch
You'd have to grab the ActorOwner and then find the other component on that
Usually, you'd bind to the hit event inside of the Actor that has the component
So that AsteroidClass component
Should just not exist
And all that code would simply be in the Asteroid Actor
simple dock
hey im having a problem with unreal engine animations
specifically, i know its buggy as arse but in my skeleton and animation blueprint they showed up, after saving, closing and reopening the editor the animations no longer show up
every time i open animation file it shows only this
not sure why it was set up already
grim ore
if you try and choose a new one do you find your old skeleton?
gloomy acorn
hey guys, anyone here worked with gamelift with gamesparks before?
I'm having a problem after i upload my game server to gamelift, in the logs i'm getting this error:
Received websocket error: X509 - Certificate verification failed, e.g. CRL, CA or signature check failed
Got websocket error. Please make sure, that you've setup you credentials.
Connection stopped, deleting it
The fix I've found in the forums, based in this link https://support.gamesparks.net/support/discussions/topics/1000084162/page/1?url_locale= , was to add certmgr /add addtrustexternalcaroot.crt into the install.bat. i did that but it opens the certmgr.exe, so i'm not sure if the command is missing something or if there's another fix for it.
any idea what i might fix this?
fleet cedar
While learning C++ for UE4 I kind of thought that blueprints were a lot better and I wasn’t going to end up using C++ but now I actually kind of prefer it
It’s nice having everything organized and while I run into more syntax errors using it, I think those will go away over time
grim ore
goood... gooood.... feel the power of the C++ side.. feel it coursing thru your veins and pulling you to the dark side.... goooood.... 😁
simple dock
oh wow ue4's animation system has entirely broke since 4.19
cant even make aim offsets
cannot drag animations in, they show red lol
hybrid scroll
What's a good software / app / website to create a "wiki" for documentation?
livid haven
Reminder that Epic works on Fortnite using the latest engine version for pretty much every major release - it's unlikely anything fundamental is really, truly that broken.
hybrid scroll
Preferably simple and cheap / free 😃
livid haven
And if it is, not for very long at all.
@hybrid scroll MediaWiki is the software than handles Wikipedia and is free to use.
livid haven
But is fine in 4.20?
cloud cobalt
Yeah
wary wave
shit loads of stuff is utterly broken in latest
¯_(ツ)_/¯
anything Fortnite isn't using is potentially in a bad state
livid haven
Just saying, "ue4's animation system has entirely broke since 4.19" can't be true, unless we've been selling emotes in Fortnite for many months despite having no animations. 😉
cloud cobalt
That's one major release that's completely unable to build DLC or mods, which is kind of a large thing to break across all three minor versions of that release.
hybrid scroll
@livid haven yeah, but that requires a web server, database, etc. 😃
wary wave
UE4 hasn't properly supported displays that use certain DPI scaling since 4.18, IIRC
livid haven
@hybrid scroll You mean installing Apache and MySQL? Trivial and free. 😛
DLC is important, but I did say fundamental.
Literally not being able to make or use animations is fundamental.
wary wave
any widget space to world space (and vice versa) conversions don't work unless the application is full screen
kindred viper
@wary wave it was way worse before 4.18. The added stuff kind of fixed the 4k issue for me but its still not entirely right in all areas of the UE interface
cloud cobalt
@livid haven I definitely agree that animation in particular is likely to work very well, but the larger message here is that engine QA has been going downhill, including on stuff that's... still pretty big.
cloud cobalt
Nope
wary wave
nope
cloud cobalt
Straight out broken
It's easy to fix manually if you're into that, I guess
It's a really dumb error
worn granite
Well I feel bad for one of my clients then, they're using 4.19 for the cel shading
wary wave
there as a bug a couple of versions ago where you couldn't transform sub-components of Character
cloud cobalt
Basically the DLC pipeline tries to set the "executable icon" on the DLC
worn granite
...
cloud cobalt
No executable, so...
wary wave
I don't mean to be rude, but how the fuck did that get through QA?
worn granite
I can do em but
custom engine
livid haven
Couldn't honestly tell you.
cloud cobalt
Fortnite doesn't need DLC, done
livid haven
Maybe a bad merge?
wary wave
it was fixed pretty quickly after I reported it, but it doesn't make me feel particularly good about the engine
it's particularly galling because the UE4 character mesh has a weird rotation by default, haha
kindred viper
I like that it was fixed quickly but then can we really blame them for missing stuff when its such a large codebase ?
cloud cobalt
We can't blame Epic for making code errors
wary wave
it depends what it is, really - something that's that intrinsic to almost every project is a bit disconcerting
cloud cobalt
We can and should blame Epic for not fixing breaking regressions in minor updates
kindred viper
it does seem a bit of an oversight in terms of importance
cloud cobalt
That's pretty bad
cedar wave
Hey guys/gals - quick question. Are the tutorials on the Unreal YT still valid? The ones that are around version 4.7 & 4.8. Looking to pick up UE4. Used to use Unity as my secondary engine, looking to change that over to UE4.
wary wave
4.7 /4.8 is a bit old, but it may well still be applicable
the answer really is 'it depends'
(on whether things have changed in the meantime)
worn granite
The nodes will look different, and the editor has changed.
Just don't get caught up in trying to copy the exact look / steps
kindred viper
@cedar wave mostly but if not, they are translatable. The problem comes when you get removed code and no error produced to tell you what needs changing (deprecated errors).
cloud cobalt
IMHO, the "move to next major engine version that maybe completely overhauls audio or video playback or physics and requires updates for every plugin you use" approach to fixing major bugs is very problematic.
worn granite
Figure out what the tut is trying to get you to do, and use the fuzzy search BP allows to find the right thing @cedar wave
kindred viper
its only problematic if you are keeping up to date with engine versions as you go
cedar wave
I have a rough memory of UE4 back then. I jumped between it and Unity when I first started learning game dev. Settled on Unity at the time due to some friends. Always liked UE4 a bit more though. Was easier to get a simple thing up and running.
wary wave
aye, but you have to when you need minor fixes (other than doing the integration yourself)
cloud cobalt
@kindred viper The problem right now is that even staying on one version is problematic since you might uncover a completely breaking issue late in development, and have no choice but to upgrade all the project.
kindred viper
yeah i've been in a situation where 3 months of work was scrapped due to requiring an update to 4.19. I cant remember why not but it was a pain
cloud cobalt
Like if you settled on 4.19 for your project but plan DLC
If you don't test that early, you'll have to update later anyway
cedar wave
Alright - thanks guys/gals. I'll still go through 'em, sounds like a good enough basis to start out with. Cheers mates!
wary wave
no problem!
kindred viper
@cedar wave dont forget to watch the entirity of the "Blueprint communications" tutorial. Its worth it
cloud cobalt
My problem is that Epic doesn't port any fix to previous releases, no matter how trivial. I would like less major releases, but much, much longer support on these.
viral herald
hey guys, i got a question, why is it when ever i export a model with a rig an animations from blender, the animations always come out tiny and i have to force root motion on?
https://gyazo.com/cf090a643fbc70a6020f367ccbd7d85e
cedar wave
@kindred viper BP is actually something that confused me when I first got into it. I found the CPP to be easier, lol
kindred viper
coolbeans, then you are set to go 😄
even so... blueprint comms is pretty vital
think of it as "an easy version of C++ interfaces" :p
cedar wave
Cheers mate!
grim ore
plush marsh
i have an idea but i don't know is it possible to do. So , i'm spawning actor with staticMeshComponents. Can i somehow remove them from actor that i spawned and add to another one ?
plush marsh
No. Basically what is want is to spawn a lot of actors , get staticMeshes from them and put them inside another actor , and then delete spawned actors
zenith flower
I made a static mesh skeleton system. Not sure if that's what you are going for
next badger
@viral herald i see no root bone at all, by default root motion is enabled
next badger
the units are centimeters? and root has no scale on it?
next badger
ue4 assumes that 1 unit = 1cm...if your scene in inches it will shrunk 2.5 times
if it's in meters - 100times
etc
if root has no animation on it you won't need "force root motion"
imo root motion checkbox should be called root motion compensation (it just resets all root animation to 0)
abstract relic
@viral herald rename the rig in blender to anything but armature
viral herald
@next badger do i need to set the unit to centimeter?
bronze cedar
how do i make that little camera actor preview always on, for now when i select the camera actor it's on, and deselecting it will make that little preview off, i want to setup my game (level) while seeing in that small preview
guys anyone who can help me 😃
next badger
@viral herald i do, but not sure it's mandatory, you may ask on #animation
viral herald
but it shrinks the entire thing
bronze cedar
@wary wave thanks for the help, i am making my game now without physics, before i was thinking that it will be hell hard without physics, but now i get it, haha thanks 😄
wary wave
no worries
bronze cedar
i don't know you are mod here, that's nice and good 😄
wary wave
it should be quite easy
bronze cedar
yes with projectile it's getting to the point, have to make more to check but now i think that yes it can be done
viral herald
https://gyazo.com/9f61df5374957496785c0ac58381862d look at this @next badger is this how its supposed to look?
bronze cedar
how do i make that little camera actor preview always on, for now when i select the camera actor it's on, and deselecting it will make that little preview off, i want to setup my game (level) while seeing in that small preview, @wary wave , can you help me with this
grim ore
There should be a little pin icon in the bottom left of the preview
grim ore
😃
bronze cedar
😄
next badger
@viral herald you asking me? you have a ...rhino? is it real size? like 150-200cm tall?
viral herald
yea
next badger
so is it that tall in blender?
viral herald
its miniscule
next badger
should be 1by1
plush yew
Your rhino scale in UE will be 0.86