same
#ue4-general
static viper
bitter iris
i dont get why directional light takes so much it sucks
bitter iris
bit less ms lol, there is bearly anything on scene
and most of its taken by that 1 directional light
static viper
are you scared?
bitter iris
scared of what
static viper
without loosing quality?
bitter iris
if it sucks all of the quality then i wont bother but maybe minimum
i was looking into RayTraced Distance Field
static viper
for distance yes
but it doesnt work on close up
and it will get worse.
you better take this to #graphics
bitter iris
okay
frozen crater
whats the best way to have a player move on a large pyhsics object (like a big airplane build in scrap mechanic)? I need the player to have the same velocity + the velocity of the airplane, but I can't seem to figure out a way to do it, anybody can point me in the right direction?
digital anchor
using a custom movement component?
@frozen crater
ACharacter/UCharacterMovementComponent seem to already do it,
take a look at UCharacterMovementComponent::SetBase()
frozen crater
okay thanks a lot I will look into that 😃
harsh pier
Are there Unity channels like this?
whole quarry
you mean a unity discord server?
static viper
he asked that yesterday too XD
gleaming creek
doing a search for "unity discord" brings up a few results, probably more useful than asking here
jade gate
Hello, I have a problem about the landscape and the layers in which salon should I go?
jade gate
Thanks :3
bitter iris
Little throw back from when I won Nvidia Edge, I just found them whilst cleaning me room
wet berry
@plush thicket if you are getting shadow jaggies you need to review the objects receiving shadows UV maps as well as the lightmass settings. You can disable compression and rebuild to rule out a compression based artifact. You should also ensure your engine settings are on Epic. Static lighting is a rough topic to start with if you are new to the engine.
there's a lot of things that can go wrong and even if nothing is wrong, it can still look off
turbid escarp
guys can i turn my 4.19 project into 4.21?
grim sinew
turbid escarp
ok, ill try that, thanks
thorn kayak
grim ore
are you sure that actor is being spawned in? F9 (breakpoint) on the event after begin play and make sure it is being called.
novel spire
Yes I can see the line between nodes firing for BeginPlay
But not the other two events
It's the default ThirdPersonCharacter blueprint
It feels like none of the blueprints are receiving inputs ever.
In my current project
grim ore
can you move your character?
because that character right there looks weird in the first place as it has no camera
novel spire
I could move my character. Then I set the default pawn to another class that has a camera component, and removed the camera from the character.
I'm making a game where the camera is static, and the character can be selected by mouse click.
grim ore
only thing I could think of off the top of my head that would stop input from being accepted by the controller is if you have the input mode set to UI only
static viper
if you set default pawn to another class...
you know that means that input events are completly turned off for every other actor
this is why we use
enable input
begin play
eneable input
controller class player
that should fix it
novel spire
Okay, should I do those in the new default pawn class, or elsewhere?
static viper
no you already did it
which means
well
you did this bc it wasnt working
so
maybe this is wrong
why are you setting the pawn to the camera actor?
a camera can be deriven without an actor
and will work without beeing a default class
you could just use begin play to switch the camera
then you would not need to switch the pawn
novel spire
I'm trying to make a game where the camera is static, there are two characters, and the player can use mouse click to select one of the characters to control.
I don't think I'll switch cameras.
static viper
you will have to
bc at begin there will be no camera
so you have to select one
that will be your static camera
thats where level blueprint comes in handy
it can reference that camera
you could also do it via an actor
there was some code back there with camera lerping
Set view target
novel spire
Do you mean I can simply place a camera in the level, and set it as a default static camera in level blueprint?
static viper
i would do that
rather then fiddling with the pawns
a camera can be easily switched
dry moon
@bitter iris how is the performance now?
novel spire
Strange, there's no Set View Target node in the level blueprint, or any other blueprints...
static viper
might be camera manager derived
grim ore
it works on the player controller, drag off a get player controller node or shut off context sensitive or search in the palette
static viper
i accidently closed the page
novel spire
Got it!
How can I find the camera actor in the level, from the level blueprint..?
The "New View Target" of "Set View Target" says "Select Asset". Do I need to make a camera class?
novel spire
Okay I seem to have done it by un-docking the level blueprint window and making it smaller, and dragging the camera actor from World Outliner into the blueprint...
Okay that works. Thanks a lot guys!
This has been really difficult though. Apparently I started out the wrong way at the very beginning already. Then it's just I need to follow this certain path of doing several steps, which I have zero knowledge about.
static viper
dont use the level blueprint ever again
novel spire
Cool.
static viper
you can do this without if you create a start actor which has the camera as public variable and then executes controller code.
soon youll understand this
novel spire
I'm more worried about how I can learn Unreal Engine though. I searched online extensively and I could never find these steps you guys mentioned, and I had to ask here to find the answer.
grim ore
the other way besides dragging into the level blueprint is to select the item in the outliner, go back to the level blueprint, right click and at the top it will have "add reference to XXX"
but never use the level blueprint
novel spire
Okay. That was still tricky. I mean it's not obvious.
I once thought level blueprint could never get actor reference in the level...
grim ore
the level blueprint is the only one that can easily
the level blueprint is the one of the only things that exists at the same time as the items in the world at design time so that is why it can reference things directly.
next badger
Yep, almighty level blueprint.
novel spire
I see, that's good to know.
next badger
@grim ore btw do you have video on level blueprints for level compositions?
i.e. interaction between persistent level, nested/streamed levels/its actors
boreal venture
hey everyone. brand new to unreal. If I want to start building a third person game, and I want to use a prebuilt map ( like the one from kite demo ), what's the "best practice"? Should I try to strip "a boy and his kite" down or should I open up third person template and import the maps from that demo? Is there a better way?
whole quarry
Kite demo map is made for nasa super computers
Better to start from scratch
Also, best is to start with a small game like Pong to get to know the engine, programming and everything else required to make a game
When having made several small games and go a little bit bigger each time, in a year or so you could maybe start with the game youve in mind now
boreal venture
Thanks for the tip.
grim ore
@next badger I don't that I know of, do you have an example of what you would expect from one?
next badger
@grim ore some examples: loading level from persistent one, unloading it, unloading level from other non persistent level, limitations of level referencing (i.e. you can't reference level in BP), and other stuff
boreal shadow
hey guys, ive exported a heightmap and a texture map from world machine to use it in ue4, how can i apply the texture map correctly?
next badger
@boreal shadow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFAm-PM8Ks
grim ore
ah. well I do have some on level streaming itself, the how to using nodes and the level streaming system, but nothing super in depth
boreal shadow
@next badger ive seen this video before, but the problem is, im using a color map and not a weight map
im getting this: (The layer file appears to be a color png, grayscale is expected. The import can continue, but the result may not be what you expect...) when importing the texture map into the layers
next badger
@boreal shadow you only can use layer masks for landscapes...landscape does not store color data, just vertex color
then it uses vertex color data to blend the layered materials
grim ore
No. It's for Unreal Engine 4. You need the one from 20 years ago for Unreal Engine 😦
grim ore
lots of resources on the official UE4 documentation website and the Epic Games YouTube Channel.
static viper
why not both
grim ore
learn UE4 up to the point where you need to work with meshes, then learn Blender to make your first mesh, then back to UE4 for importing the mesh.
rocky basalt
Need buy a hard drive for more space for ue4
Cause I just got a laptop with only 28 gb
next badger
@rocky basalt what kind of laptop? cause i'm concerned it will be able to run ue4 now
plush yew
Would questions about making a menu UI go in the "Graphics" section, or is that for topic like this in the "Unreal-Chat"?
rocky basalt
Asus
whole quarry
lol
rocky basalt
Epic game program not opening
plush yew
Ah, okay. Thank you for letting me know.
whole quarry
@rocky basalt you need to check if your laptop has the minimum specs
rocky basalt
Idk how many specs i have
spare sun
🤔
regal mulch
Technically you should know what your Laptop has build in
And if not, then you can check that in your System Settings
It's mainly about CPU, GPU and how much RAM it has.
UE4 has minimum requirements for this. If your laptop doesn't meet them, you can't use UE4 with the Laptop.
spare sun
I think we'll need to go thru basics first
rocky basalt
How do i add more?
next badger
@rocky basalt tell us what laptop it is...it probably labeled on the bottom
rocky basalt
It an asus laptop
next badger
@rocky basalt you think there is only one ASUS laptop?
rocky basalt
Hdmi
tall pendant
you could run dxdiag and write what shows up on "System" and "Display"
rocky basalt
regal mulch
You should bring basic knowledge of how to use and utilize a computer :D
grim ore
oof that is old
regal mulch
And yeah, as said, doubt that laptop will run UE4
rocky basalt
Ok
next badger
@rocky basalt on the bottom ( https://www.asus.com/us/support/article/565 )
regal mulch
And since laptops are usually not upgradable, at least the old ones, you'll have to get a new one.
(Would recommend PC Workstations for UE4 anyway as long as you aren't traveling a lot)
rocky basalt
Pc as in a monitor?
grim ore
buy one anyways and just use a really really big bag when travelling 😛
rocky basalt
😂 ok
regal mulch
No, not PC as in Monitor. PC as in the big case that is usually below your desk (or on it if you are fancy)
tall pendant
just dont use watercooling for the travel workstation 😄 makes things easier hehe
regal mulch
Full PC workstations, if you don't have parts like Keyboard, Screen/s, Mouse etc. already, are expensive.
next badger
@regal mulch so true...RTX OFF
regal mulch
You can view the minimum reuqiresments for UE4 on their website
We aren't really a Hardware recommendation service here
grim ore
@next badger yeah I had a smaller build but I really really really really hate the heat that you can end up with from those if you put a real video card in 😦 like really... really hate lol
next badger
@regal mulch that's what i've said, only recommended
regal mulch
@rocky basalt Most laptops to properly run UE4 on, are around 1.5k€
tall pendant
thats said i did got rocket run on a gtx 260 😄
regal mulch
+- as I'm not so aware of the prices
spare sun
aka gaming laptops
rocky basalt
1.5£ how much is that in us
grim ore
a pc with atleast 2 cores from the I3 or higher generation, 8gb ram, something resembling a video card, and some hard drive space and you can atleast run the engine. Missing any of that stuff and your gonna have no time.
rocky basalt
Fudge
next badger
what laptop Alex got instead of his stolen one?
regal mulch
You basically need a Laptop/PC that is able to game
rocky basalt
I only got $200.00
grim ore
man go used, I got a nice gaming laptop for $600 US from dell's dent and refurbed
regal mulch
Doubt $200 is gonna cut it. This is not really the "hobby" to start cheap into
next badger
@rocky basalt used is ok, or refub
tall pendant
or choose a different tech which runs on the hw of your budget
grim ore
$200 will get you a mobile gaming chip in the 8th gen series if you get one that needs work 😦
next badger
@rocky basalt but you definitely need to find someone who good at it, cause ... sorry to say, you won't be able to get a good one by yourself
tall pendant
i mean UE4 does need a certain level of hw power..theres no way around
rocky basalt
😂 my grandma got it for me for Christmas, i didnt tell her what kind i want
Im going look on ebay, what should i put in search bar just “gaming laptops”
regal mulch
At that point I would say: For UE4 you need a better Laptop and that costs a lot of $.
If you can't invest into this, then you either need to wait a bit and save money or look into game dev software that can run on your Laptop.
These are however most likely also only used to produce games that run on your Laptop.
next badger
laptops are 1.5-2x more expensive than a PC if you compare by the specs (you have to pay for compact size)
regal mulch
I would also suggest you don't just storm off onto Ebay and buy something.
Check for a good Hardware forum and ask there
@next badger That's actually less true by now
It's still more expensive but not that much
We have UE4 and VR capable Laptops for less than 2k here
And that's what a full PC setup would cost
If not more
You have to count Keyboard, Screen, Mouse etc. into this
Just upgrading my PC atm, with case, but without GPU, would cost me 1.4k
next badger
i was looking for some 3.5-4ghz i7 with 32gb ram and 1080 gpu...noep
regal mulch
(reminds me that I still have the 2 M.2s here which I can't put into my rig atm ;-;)
rocky basalt
Im going to try running unity
spare sun
1080 laptops oh noes
grim ore
check out stuff like the dell outlet and the hp refurbed if you need something not local. you can get an i7, ssd, 1060 GPU for under $1000. the deals are out there.
next badger
@rocky basalt yep, i think unity has way less requirements on specs
grim ore
Unity used to run on a potato, now you need 2 potatoes if you want to use the HDRP stuff
rocky basalt
Idk i m just going to try find a new laptop, cause unity animation prob not that good
spare sun
in the end you need to be able to run games you create
tall pendant
Unity and UE4 are equal at rendering. It really depends on your own skills.
regal mulch
@rocky basalt Unity is as good as UE4 in most cases. It's the person who uses it that makes the difference.
grim ore
Unity and UE4 can do the same stuff, it's just personal preference on what you want to use at this point.
lol
spare sun
aww
regal mulch
C-c-c-c-c-ombo
next badger
i like how tolerant ue4 community is...
i'm afraid i'd be all in spit already if I was on unity forums
haven't been there for a long time
grim ore
I think one of the rules in the Unity discords is no other engine chat or you get warned
cursive dirge
pfft
we talk about ue4 all the time there
haven't seen people getting warned
ok, not all the time but occasionally 😄
if its relevant to the discussion, no need to start waving the ban hammer
glacial pecan
We've been using Unity for two years at work and so far, the Unity community has delivered way, way, way more answers than the past two months of joining the Unreal community
I'm not complaining, I just think that the philosophies of both engines and communities are different.
next badger
@glacial pecan have you used unreal answer hub/discord for asking those questions?
grim ore
No I think its the GDL One not that Unity Devs one
I dunno all I remember was someone was like "reeee Unreal engine is the debil" lol
next badger
debil as "devil" or like https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/дебил ?
cursive dirge
@grim ore well, there are ue4 haters there for sure
but there are people who really hate Unity here as well
so I dunno, that seems normal
glacial pecan
@next badger discord yes (about 10% replies to questions), answer hub, not really, just comments on existing questions (0% replies so far)
for Unity, I get about 75% of questions answered on forums/irc
cursive dirge
Unity does have simpler api tho
glacial pecan
(Unreal forums, I get about 25% answered)
cursive dirge
it's easier to give you answers on what that engine can do
grim ore
oh for sure there is way more Unity devs out there which would account for that. More experience as well due to length of time being in the public.
"Hey can anyone tell me how to fix my tesla model 3" as compared to "hey how do I fix my 1999 honda accord"
cursive dirge
more advanced things you ask on ue4, less you'll get straight answers unless you find a person who's done that line of work on the engine before
next badger
@cursive dirge in many cases even Epic devs can't answer my questions about ue4
cursive dirge
oh, epic devs don't really answer much
grim ore
Epic devs get paid to answer questions sooooo, become a UDN member 😃
cursive dirge
if we look at staffs online presence, Unity wins by clear margin 😄
glacial pecan
I was at the Unreal Enterprise Academy a few weeks ago, and I got some interesting answers from Epic developers there.... unfortunately, many of the answers were that the engine didn't support it
next badger
@cursive dirge but i only ask them about some very specific cases, like "what order of blah blah in RHI is?
glacial pecan
Oh, and nobody knew much about distance fields 😛
cursive dirge
yeah, I asked about the physx contact mods on 4.20, even tried tagging different people at different times, no answers
glacial pecan
one of those I spoke to were apparently a distance field expert 😉
cursive dirge
altho given my ue4 rants here, I wouldn't be surprised if I was on some black list there 😄
glacial pecan
but again, I'm not complaining. It's just different, because most of the first replies you get is "are you paying for an enterprise suppor tlicense at $1500 a year"... 😛
then, apparently, you get answers
(which we might do)
muted minnow
Hello, I'm working on a game, and I used the Action RPG as a base... and I've managed to do something to make my player invincible, and I'm don't know what, or how to undo it..I've added a Pain volume to my level, set it to 100 damage per second, and nothing. Bad guys aren't injuring me. . I've confirmed that the "Event An Damage" and "Event On Damaged" Aren't firing... Since this is the Action RPG sample, it's using the Gameplay Abilities system, so perhaps something there is preventing? I'm sorry for the vague question, I'm struggling to figure out how to troubleshoot this.
cursive dirge
not saying there aren't answers
grim ore
the difference being there are soooooo many more Unity devs over soooo many more years with soooooo many more problems that you are bound to find an answer 😃
cursive dirge
just saying there wasn't when I started out
@grim ore unless it's one of the new systems...
grim ore
eh, true but even then Unity has really stepped up their documentation/learning game for new features.
like new stuff is in beta and it has full docs plus a walkthru, the tiny system for example
upper heart
Does anyone know how to override config files that are nested inside of separate Programs?
For example, I want to set some properties on CrashReportClient, such as DataRouterUrl.
When I set these in my game's DefaultEngine.ini via
[CrashReportClient]
CrashReportClientVersion=1.0
DataRouterUrl="foo"
It doesn't work in my packaged build.
I have to manually create the following path and file after packaging.
<packaged_dir>/Engine/Programs/CrashReportClient/Config/DefaultEngine.ini
Does anyone know the correct way to do this without creating files/folders after packaging?
next badger
@muted minnow there is a BP debugger, place a breakpoint on possible nodes when it may change the health and try to trigger them
grim ore
yep the action rpg system uses the gameplay abilities for all effects/damage/etc. Unless you are using it or comfortable using it your gonna be screwed 😦
the docs are decent enough on it, you are going to have to scrub thru the Action RPG docs page for more info on how to do what you want
plush yew
I wonder if with unity's upcoming data-oriented approach with ECS you will be able to achieve more performance than in ue4
tall pendant
on some stuff you sure will
grim ore
The ECS system is super neato for the stuff you can do with it for sure, like super duper neato
glacial pecan
Unreal's graphical fidelity is still king, and performance you can solve with better hardware 😛
Unity still doesn't have contact shadows
grim ore
there are some things you can't just brute force
glacial pecan
(though it might get 3rd party amazing GI soon)
next badger
@upper heart are you having same issue since 2017? 😃
upper heart
No, I just started messing with the crash report client. Maybe I have ran into this before with a separate module tho and don't remember it 😛
tall pendant
doesn't Unity already has the defacto gold standard in realtime GI? (Enlighten) 🤔
upper heart
why do you ask?
glacial pecan
@tall pendant we don't bake and we specifically switched to Unreal due to the better lighting in Unreal
next badger
@upper heart cause, there is question by you on answerhub, from 2017 (i believe still unanswered)
upper heart
lol I'll search through my old questions 😆
tall pendant
better lighting in UE4? 😄 I tend to disagree hehe
glacial pecan
I think you'd be in the minority in that opinion... by a signifcant margin
high stone
Most of the effects depends on the skill of the developer.
cursive dirge
realtime lighting isn't all that great in UE4
tall pendant
depends. every lighting artist i talked to (who worked outside of UE4) kinda disliked how Epic's implementation works.
grim ore
I think we are super close to parity for graphics on both engines but we can all agree Unity needs to get their Visual Scripting support out because that's the best feature of UE4!
glacial pecan
ok, wow... that is news to me... where can I read more about this?
cursive dirge
you don't even have to read about it
next badger
unity lighting was horrible before Enlighten
cursive dirge
just try it yourself
huh
nobody really uses Enlighten there
- it's baked solution
glacial pecan
we have, and we instantly got much better results in Unreal after a few weeks, than with two years of Unity
cursive dirge
eobet is talking about realtime
high stone
@grim ore You're in here every day. Curious why your name isn't in orange, or yellow?
tall pendant
wait. Unitys Enlighten is their baked portion only?
grim ore
@high stone that would mean I would have to do real work and that is noooooooo fun
glacial pecan
I'm about to port a VR visualizer to Unreal using the exact same meshes, so I'll have my own answer soon
cursive dirge
well, it allows realtime GI for static geometry
tall pendant
only thing you bake in Enlighten is data for proxy geo and their probes
high stone
@grim ore Lol that's exactly the same thing I said to Ubiq! (I help out on their company.)
cursive dirge
but the integration has tons of practical use case issues
so almost nobody uses it there
next badger
@cursive dirge there is realtime GI in Unity that does not using Enlighten?
cursive dirge
Unity is now more focused on their own progressive lightmapper
high stone
Being a game dev is all about using tricks. You are more of a magician, convincing people low poly detail is more impressive than it is.
cursive dirge
they have GPU version on preview and latest version on 2019.1 alphas got nvidias optix denoiser etc
high stone
I think a lot of new game devs forget this fact, and focus too much on what they feel is bleeding edge graphics. When in reality the tech has barely changed since 2008.
cursive dirge
@next badger only through some LPPV probes
I don't really know all the details, but people use both in combination afaik to fix the weaknesses of eachothers
next badger
well, same for ue4...LPVs and other voodoo
cursive dirge
yeah, people aren't really focusing on realtime GI atm
tall pendant
for a good reason imho 😄
cursive dirge
maybe that'll come again if raytracing works some day
next badger
they just believe RTX will save them all
tall pendant
most games don't actually need realtime GI IMHO
cursive dirge
we'll see in 5-10 years 😄
tall pendant
Don't get me wrong. I tinkered with vxgi (1.x and 2.x) it's cool. But really still too expensive and limited on platform side.
cursive dirge
there is one thing that does make Unity's realtime lighting look bad, they have totally incorrect fall-off on the old renderers realtime shadows
they've fixed it lately on their baked shadows (on progressive lightmapper) and their SRPs have always had more correct setup
also, stock shadow filtering is really outdated (their HDRP has PCSS and some other newer tecs)
tall pendant
biggest issue with vxgi atm is their voxelization imho
high stone
Real time raytracing is still 5-10 years off. Maybe never for polygons. Nvidia is finding a lot of software solutions. But hardware for the past decade and even now is still a heat beast.
I'm assuming we're going into 8k over the next few years.
drowsy turtle
Guys is there fastest way to build a game
tall pendant
🤔
grim ore
^
spare sun
^
plush yew
or use the template / tech demo but replace one or few assets with ur own to "build" a game
grim ore
no... no one would ever do that... never! https://store.steampowered.com/app/861290/Shooter_Game/
wary wave
$14.99 😐
icy bone
@grim ore OMG someone really released a game like that for 15usd!? jesus
next badger
Jim should review that.
grim ore
One thing to consider is stuff like this is low effort and can be sold to key bundlers for a decent profit. They get another game for the bundle for cheap and it seems like you as a buyer are getting more value.
vale silo
it's a sound business strategy
I should have though of it and fund my game with proceeds from selling keys for repackaged Shooter example 😂
/s
latent folio
anyway to stop compiling shaders when i am working on another project
idle sail
How do I disable that little tooltip that comes up when I play game that one that says click for mouse control :/
solar quarry
guys, I'm trying to import a building into ue4, but it keeps appearing as a character model with an auto generated skeletal mesh
This wouldn't be so annoying... if the building had collisions
rocky basalt
Can i dm spmeone for support
fierce tulip
@solar quarry see that tickbox saying "skeletal mesh" disable that 😃
@rocky basalt just ask, preferably in a channel where it fits best
fierce tulip
then it belongs here in general hehe
rocky basalt
I asked “if i buy a usb hardrive will it help download ue4?”
fierce tulip
@rocky basalt nope, that totes depend on your download speed
idle sail
Anyone? how to disable the little tool tip that says click for mouse control when I start the game?
rocky basalt
I got an asus laptop with 28.gb
I forgot how many specs
Im going try to ask my mom can i return my laptop for a gaming laptop
fierce tulip
you could install ue4 on an usb hdd, but its gonna be slow. and your laptop needs to be 64 bit
fierce tulip
no hehe.
solar quarry
a 64 bit computer is a computer with a 64 bit processor. It is faster than a 32 bit one
It is also recommended over 32 bit
fierce tulip
ue4 doesnt even work on 32x
fierce tulip
poor and or old people hehe
disclaimer: im not making fun of poor people, I hope things get better.
solar quarry
I'm behind on pc performance just because I have a 1050, couldn't even imagine a 32 bit system
fierce tulip
1050 is allright, not having an ssd though.. I would regret that
solar quarry
oh well, next student loan, I am going to upgrade my pc, get a bigger case, 450 watt power supply, gtx 1070... and double my ram memory
solar quarry
word of advice, never have 8gb ram
or else windows will force close ue4 when your trying to build a level because it is using too much memory
I learnt that the hard way
wary wave
32-bit computing died a long time ago
the only reason it still exists is because Microsoft monetise it
fierce tulip
i come from a time where I had 16mb ram during unreal1 and it kept crashing on bigger maps when rebuilding light hehe
wary wave
selling deliberately hobbled 32-bit OS to poorer markets
there are no 32 bit processors any more
(not in the desktop / laptop space)
solar quarry
32 bit processers must be ancient by now
so anyway... I have 7700 i7. My power supply and graphics card setup is looking stupid
so is the tiny size of my case
because it's tiny
wary wave
32-bit processors died with the Pentium 4, some 15 or so years ago
solar quarry
3 buildings rendered in substance painter
fierce tulip
i remember buying a pc, pentium 3, 800mhz.
week later pent. 4 with 1ghz came out for same price <_<
was my first system
solar quarry
and some sandbags
and a truck
fierce tulip
first thing I installed was Unreal hehe. also no interwebs at the time, no tuts for ued 1.0 either
solar quarry
ouch, that must have been a difficult time
even nowadays, with all the tutorials available, it's still difficult
fierce tulip
tutorials back in the day where just not a thing, eventually we all worked together on the unreal forums and learn together
no youtube either hehe
solar quarry
no pluralsight either
clear junco
Hey, i have a Problem i dont know how i can fix it, when i crouch and uncrouch under a object or something else like a hole where i can crouch through then i fall through the ceiling because i dont know how to prevent uncrouch if something is over the player.. (sorry for my english)
fierce tulip
@clear junco try asking in #blueprint
gleaming creek
@clear junco You'll want to do a sweep to see if there's enough space to stand up, probably a capsule sweep with your player's standing size
clear junco
the problem is i dont know how to do that im new into programming..
and i didnt found a tutorial for that
solar quarry
I've barely touched the blueprints system
I'm on my final year of my course, how is it that we've barely been taught anything over the past 2 years, and now I gotta make a digital environment before january 7
gleaming creek
Sorry, a trace not a sweep
Check the trace functions in blueprints
Basically you check if a shape can fit somewhere or can follow a path without obstruction
solar quarry
I am not looking forward to the final year project
fierce tulip
@solar quarry I followed 5 years of game and animation, and never learned about games and animation, actually taught the teachers ued and max <_<
solar quarry
oof
We did a digital animation module
and the lecturer deliberately skipped rigging because students normally find it too hard
THAT WAS HIS EXCUSE
I wanna be an animator
I need to learn how to rig
clear junco
@gleaming creek do you mean something like that? https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/wizd31nd/
fierce tulip
try spending as much time as possible learning that stuff online, it gets tougher making free time to learn once you are working and have mouths to feed
student time is best time
solar quarry
I don't have mouths to feed
fierce tulip
yet :p
gleaming creek
@clear junco Yes, though I'd use a capsule trace instead of a line
solar quarry
I also don't want to get married...
gleaming creek
(Kind of curious why your vector inputs are blue, that's just wrong, they should be yellow?)
distant river
Hey y'all check out this cool ice (it's real)
fierce tulip
well with mouths in my case I mean my gf and my cats :p
@distant river dat sub surface scattering. hnng
solar quarry
you have a gf, I don't.... oh wow, I sound like a loser
fierce tulip
all in time my friend, all in time.
distant river
@solar quarry sounds like you have time to learn, so go for it
grim ore
Girlfriend, Wife, Cats, Drug Addiction. It all ends up taking away money and time from you in the end so pick one and get er done 😉
solar quarry
I did, but then the january 7th deadline crept onto me
now I have to spend my christmas holidays on it
fierce tulip
@grim ore not sure my gf would accept an additional wife, but besides "wife" i can tick all those boxes :p
solar quarry
oh, and right after this, final year project
grim ore
see, people like @fierce tulip understands how it works and he didn't pick one he went for the trifecta!
fierce tulip
and its seriously eating my time
disclaimer: not saying my gf is a waste of time
feels evil eyes glaring
grim ore
lol and we didn't even touch on the worst one of all, work
solar quarry
I've made a skeleton, that's it.
gleaming creek
It's hard to work on your personal game projects when you have to waste so much time on this "work" thing, all right
solar quarry
It's not attached, it has no controls
fierce tulip
frustratingly so @gleaming creek
grim ore
well once you have a skeleton you have to weight it so it controls parts of the mesh based on weights
solar quarry
right.... how?
gleaming creek
That depends on your 3D program
solar quarry
maya
gleaming creek
I can see that, but unfortunately I have not used Maya myself, so I can't help you
But I'm sure you can find tutorials on Youtube?
solar quarry
I see
grim ore
Whats the quick rig button do, push it and see what happens lol
solar quarry
it makes a quick rig, but doesn't do the fingers
also the blending system for the quick rig is broken, and if I rotate an arm enough, it gets deformed
one time I rotated a hand, it got smaller
fierce tulip
insert pun here
distant river
@gleaming creek also working on personal projects gets funny if you're the type of person that starts new projects all the time 😄
gleaming creek
Ah, no, I just write them down!
muted minnow
Well, obviously, your next game idea will be a lot more fun to develop than what you're working on now...
Rinse repeat about 7 times now.
fierce tulip
learning to stick with/trough it till the end is also something you'll learn as a dev hehe
solar quarry
everyone, he's contemplating suicide
gleaming creek
Nah, I have a better idea, make a simple game first, but while doing so, build up systems and maybe assets that I can later use for the other game ideas
clear junco
thats what i have https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/gfef3vpz/ / https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/prxsdav5/ @gleaming creek how can i do it that it works now?^^
shy silo
What do you reccomend for someone to learn ue4 as someone who has no knowledge? Which are essential videos?
@shy silo
fierce tulip
google some "ue4 getting started" things
gleaming creek
@clear junco Toggle crouch? When the player tries to stand up, you need to check if there's space (the trace doesn't hit anything) and reject the command if not
muted minnow
GarageMan: I started with Epic's official video tutorials
GarageMan: Then I switched to youtube / google for specific things.
shy silo
Ok.
distant river
@gleaming creek I made a little stats system recently that seems pretty transferrable between projects ⭐
muted minnow
@distant river Cool. I'm trying to wrap my head around the attributes system with Abilities currently.
gleaming creek
You take damage and your attack goes down!
distant river
@muted minnow nice, the Abilities plugin looks very flexible, I'm still scared of using it, by the looks of it when I'm done with this it's probably gonna have the same feature set 😄 😄 😄
gleaming creek
What does the stat component do that a simple variable wouldn't?
distant river
Saves you from having to create min/max variables in every place you have stats
gleaming creek
Ah, true enough, that's useful
distant river
Yeah, might be overkill for some things, if you want them more readily available especially
neon current
i wanna start creatin games usin unreal i have no experience does anyone got recommendations or videos to watch?
fierce tulip
scroll up a few lines, we just talked about it
distant river
@neon current Watch this first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z06QR-tz1_o&list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5BkTruCmaBBZ8z6cP9KzPiX
neon current
ah thanks guys i recently got a PC powerful enough to run unreal and thought it would be a good opportunity to start makin a game
distant river
The number one thing you need to do is think small and fail quickly
Make really simple little games in the beginning to get the grip of the whole thing, cause remember, you'll be improving really fast so you'll be outgrowing your first projects
neon current
what do you recommend for a first project?
distant river
Clone a simple game, like snake, breakout or space invaders
muted minnow
I'd recommend taking one of the existing sample games, and making a mod off it.
neon current
is there any videos on it? or should i try figuring it out myself?
muted minnow
Epic has some official tutorials, and there's a lot of 'let's make X game' on youtube
neon current
ok great thanks!
distant river
Here's an example for space invaders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz5HnDRQ-ig&list=PLwmGmCVti_dBFcOnCXmpFpg58SmiZZVEt
glacial pecan
is there a video that specifically explains how to convert a Unity prefab workflow to Unreal thinking and whatever the equivalent there is (since according to Epic Datasmith Developers, Blueprints is not the answer)?
plush yew
I believe there is a course for Unity users at ue academy
wet berry
@regal mulch @whole quarry Wanted to thank you guys for the ideas re: the Souls bonfire. I decided to give each enemy spawn I want to recur a spawn controller BP. The controller BP spawns an enemy on game start and can clean them up/respawn them when an event is triggered on the gameinstance. https://media.giphy.com/media/7J262I6zsGm1Vlykf9/giphy.gif
wet berry
Sure. This way is gonna get expensive with a lot of actors
regal mulch
The GameMode class has, as far as I know, a "ResetGame" function.
If you call that, the "OnReset" function of every Actor is called.
You can override that in your respawner to respawn the enemies
Or in your Enemies if they are placed by hand to reactivate them
That should technically do what you want
wet berry
I'll look into it, thanks!
proven star
hey if anyone has a second please check my question in #multiplayer
distant river
@regal mulch reading your message about ResetGame after reloading levels all the time to reset feels very enlightening 😄
storm venture
Question:
Typically, I see people store items as IDs within the player's inventory, since storing actual actors is bad for performance.
But, what if the items can be customized? Like a weapon with attachments?
grim ore
multiple id's!
like take this for example and look at the http address https://www.wowhead.com/item=159300/kulas-butchering-wristwraps&bonus=4777:1482
the base item has an ID#, and then the bonus stats have ID's that Identify what they are and combined you make the power rangers
and if you want to be cheeky you can still store it as an ID string regardless of how many mods are on it with like "123456:11:23:232:::434
using : to separate each "slot" on the item after the ID
storm venture
I love it. That's a fantastic idea, thanks @grim ore
and Merry Christmas!
grim ore
😃
potent wing
Hi, im back after taking a long break. My last game was unsuccessfull the game didnt work. So now i'm gonna start a new project for PC game. So it's gonna be a horror game, i wanna make it looks like Outlast. So i'm gonna need some advice what to do and do not do. And i got some question here :
- Should i update my UE to the latest? (I'm on UE4.18) [My UE won't start]
- Should i make the game Third or First person?
Thanks in advance, hope you guys can help me out when i get stuck, and i wish you guys a goodluck, and merry xmas everyone!
grim ore
If your starting a new project then the latest version is a good place to start as it should offer you more features.
distant river
@potent wing sounds like you need to spend more time researching game design, big questions like camera perspective should be informed by gameplay, so try to figure out what your player will be doing in your game, then make a decision on camera perspective.
Watching Extra Credits always gets me pumped about game design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z06QR-tz1_o&list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5BkTruCmaBBZ8z6cP9KzPiX
light thicket
Hello everyone, I have a question, why is Unreal duplicating my collision meshes?
Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
thanks in advance
icy bone
Curious question, anyone here work with Game Dev full time?
dry moon
yeah I pretty much do
idle sail
Lol must be pretty busy after your last release huh?
dry moon
Its like any other risk in life, and if you want to succeed, put everything you can into it.
What do you mean?
idle sail
After fallout 76 
dry moon
I didn't work on that
I hear it was some dude named Todd Howard
he made Fallout 4™ as well
flat stump
Ok after my latest git pull a lot of my textures are black. If I go to it in the asset browser and click reimport it fixes it - is there some way to mass-re-import all of my textures? It will take me forever to track down all these filess otherwise 😮
flat stump
ok nvm I can just filter for textures in content browser, select them all and hit reimport and wait.....
wide sorrel
good morning dudes! :)
can you please tell me how can one disable the message log popup? It gets on my nerves after 5 minutes that the engine shifts focus to it every time I stop the simulation
potent wing
i need help
i just downloaded the latest UE
but the problem is
i cannot find any template
i can only find the Blank template
is there any way to insert third person template and use them?
or do i need to redownload UE?
static viper
you prolly have not installed the templates
minor issue
just edit the engine settings in the launcher
potent wing
yeah yeah i think i untick the templates
harsh pier
😡
cloud cobalt
Okay ?
potent wing
@static viper hi can you guide me?
potent wing
about the template thingy
i accidently untick templete when im downloading the latest UE
how do i manually install template?
static viper
you dont
well you do
but you dont
you can edit the settings of the engine in the launcher
activate the tamplates
and then apply
potent wing
how?
static viper
it will auto install it
there is a small arrow down where the engines are shown
i cant show
static viper
???
potent wing
static viper
and how did you found out you got only blank maps
static viper
tell how
static viper
then press it
then remove the engine by hand from the epic games directory
and close the launcher completly before hand
it will then auto reinit the settings
and you can reinstall
hot drum
how to do the thing help
static viper
with a /
hot drum
I'm in blend space
static viper
am i mum?
hot drum
potent wing
did you mean to restart the launcher?
hot drum
and the max thing is 100
static viper
🤦
static viper
🤦
static viper
dont restart the launcher
hot drum
Meanie
hot drum
The sheer size of this lad
@static viper dad help
I can't find the thing
the value for the max value on the blendspace
static viper
youre just a troll. No help for you
hot drum
no srsly i'm a noob
I need help
I can't find the value to change the max value on the blendspace
cloud cobalt
@hot drum People here can't guide you click by click through game development
Look at video tutorials
hot drum
I did but they look like old versions
last time i used blendspaces I seemed to find it right away
but I think they moved it around
and now I have no clue
also I thought that's what this server is for, when you need help
: P
or at least that's what 90% of the people come here for
cloud cobalt
We can help, but only if you explain your problem clearly, in details, stating what you understand and what you don't, what you're trying to do, etc
static viper
99% of people who come here dont spam beg for help...
hot drum
the max value
i've looked all over
I can't find the slider to change the maximum value
it's 100 rn
and I need 1000
: P
hot drum
the big sad
Here's some documentation
it says it's there
but it's not
oh wait ._.
It is
it was closed
static viper
all this chaos only bc you cant see correctly...
hot drum
the big oops
static viper
thats just annoying
hot drum
You know what I've made a hilariously large amount of screw ups because I am not good at this lmao
static viper
you also not good at social.
hot drum
i am, yall just don't know how to joke around
hot drum
I mean, yeah I understand, but It doesn't really help when you tell me to do it myself rather than just try to help a bit : P
Yes google works n all
but I'm just looking for a quick response
and i'm not getting one
static viper
you sure behave like it
hot drum
I'm making a meme game for purely jokes, expect me to act jokeingly lol
cloud cobalt
@hot drum In my experience, most of the time you'll have a faster solution by doing it yourself. You have all the context for your problem, we don't, and explaining the context of what you're doing takes time.
hot drum
ok :\
cloud cobalt
This channel is really helpful for high level discussions like "is this the correct tool to do X", or "I did X expecting it to work, but Y happens instead, why ?"
People can help you quickly for thta kind of stuff
hot drum
o ok
@static viper just to let you know real quick i was only talking to you like that because I saw you yesterday in a different channel and I was joking around with you, and you seemed fine with it
I thought you'd recognize me and what not
harsh pier
I think that mr. Leom is a nice person that wa misuncerstood.
cloud cobalt
Everyone here is nice
wide crow
always had issues with grub 🐸
hot drum
gg
tired oracle
I'm trying to use the r.AOListMeshDistanceFields command in the output log, but nothing happens when I use it. Not sure what I'm missing, I'm not a newbie so just curious if anyone knows how to use that command
next badger
@tired oracle means you have no any
harsh pier
...
ember hull
Guys, is it possible to convert Unity animations to fbx and import it to Ue4 ?, I searched youtube didnt find any good video for it
junior solstice
how do I migrate this migrated file to my project http://prntscr.com/m06xrg http://prntscr.com/m077d3
grim ore
You need to use the migrate option inside a working project or put that CONTENT under the CONTENT folder in your new project and hope it works in the new project.
@ember hull if your original files are in FBX, and chances are they are as unity keeps the source format, you can just import them into UE4 normally. If it's something like a blend space or a set up animation then no you would not be able to bring them in you have to recreate them.
junior solstice
@grim ore i dont understand
exactly what I need to do or what I lack
grim ore
Inside of your project folder on your drive is a Content folder, this holds the Content of your project. Put all of those files that I can see in that folder you showed into that Content folder.
so it would be project folder/Content/env and project folder/Content/InfinityBladeGrassLands and etc..
you should do this with the project closed then open it back up once you are done and if you are lucky it will find and use the files if the versions are the same and you are lucky. this is not the right way of doing this and it can and does fail
junior solstice
I do it the way you understand, but I get the error in picture 2
grim ore
then you might be out of luck. The files might not be compatible with your version as they are based on the version of the engine they were last used in.
grim ore
You need to get the original project completely, UE4 does not support randomly copying uasset files and moving them around to other projects.
grim juniper
The map file does NOT contain any of the assets in the map, so you need to migrate all the assets used in the map with it.
grim ore
he didnt migrate any of the files, the content of the Content folder was copied from a project onto a flash drive and that is what he has
grim juniper
Yeah, looks like the missing assets could be the low poly city pack which was free in November just from a quick glance at the names
junior solstice
i did migrate for lavel
static viper
did you clicked on the assets in content browser and pressed migrate?
with everything?
grim ore
When you migrate from inside of a project you choose the content folder of a different project. What are you trying to do?
grim juniper
Looking at the image closer looks like the right folder names are there, but that doesn't mean the assets are in them
dull oyster
Hello. I have seen people on twitch that when ppl move around environment on unreal engine they switch between ragdoll (character) and camera view. How can i do that? i have to buy some plugin ?
grim ore
do you have any more info or examples on this? is a camera view just a camera that is in the scene that shows what is going on? like someone watching something happening? if so that is all built into the engine.
dull oyster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lWQW5_5E8o something like that
dim merlin
Hi, i just moved to 4.21, and it seems that now procedural added components are not visible anymore in world outliner (when in play) .. anyone knows why and how to make them visible again?
grim ore
Did I miss the part where something happened? I just saw a third person camera the entire time
dull oyster
@grim ore but he was not flying around the scene with camera but instead he was running with the ragdoll
grim ore
ok that's not a ragdoll, a ragdoll would be a character with physics enabled that just flops around for the most part. That is just a standard third person character and that comes with the engine.
dull oyster
@grim ore how can i enable it ?
grim ore
You would create a new project with the Third Person Character template or you would add the Third Person Character Feature Pack into your project and use it for your default pawn
wide crow
@dull oyster see the third person template, there's a bool for the movement to follow the camera rotation somewhere, it does the trick
(It's in the controller I guess)
dull oyster
@wide crow i downloaded some character from ue library. Can i make him work? 😄
regal mulch
@wide crow Isn't that the "OrientateMovementToRotation" or so boolean on the CMC?
wide crow
@regal mulch don't remember, don't have UE here 😃
dull oyster
@wide crow i dont see any third person template ;p but im newbie in ue so
wide crow
@dull oyster these tutorial series are good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRO82u1phyw It will help 😃
grim ore
click the green button at the top of your Content browser (ADD NEW), click on add feature pack at the top. Choose the third person feature pack (blueprint). change your game mode to use the third person character. hit play?
alternately I would assume the tutorial you are following would set it up at some point?
wide crow
yep
that's a good starting point, it explains all the steps to setup and configure the components
dim merlin
@dull oyster u should watch some beginner tutorials first. try to learn the basics of unreal engine first before asking stuff
dull oyster
@dim merlin i do. I just had desire to try that out. Chill guys.
and thanks. ill work on that
vale silo
how does one make AI strafe / circle around player (move around maintaining distance and aim at player) using Behavior Tree ?
regal mulch
You can have parallel tasks
One would be shooting, the other one would be taking care of positioning the AI
And the "circle around" stuff is math
vale silo
math is to determine next point on the circle to move to, right ?
regal mulch
Yop, for example
vale silo
I recall there is a setting on the AI controller "can strafe". What does it affect, if anything?
bitter iris
this makes me happy
wide crow
I see skies of blue..... Clouds of white
Bright blessed days.... Dark sacred nights
And I think to myself..... What a wonderful world. 😃
teal tulip
🤔
copper fable
i recently updated my project from 4.20 to 4.21 and it seems my AI has stopped working for some reason
has this happened to anyone else?
static viper
Ai stopped working is very very inaccurate
like
you could also say "help my npcs are gone pls fix"
pls elaborate
@copper fable
copper fable
Well the behaviour tree just flickers through all the nodes
All blackbird properties seem fine
It doesn’t move
On the older version it works
static viper
now
lets get this straight
"move"
forget the rest...
think about this
"move"
what is the thing that allows movement
tip
its green by default
and usually breaks on update.
static viper
so its active?
you can go ingame and open console
show navigation
green stuff on floor
?
copper fable
Yeah
static viper
good
now thats a usual error when upgrading
i dont know BT but you said it is fine
show me your AI blueprint
if you have one
copper fable
yeah ill get that up
cinder iron
is Persona still a valid name to make a reference to the complete animation framework/editors?
I saw this on the documentation but I'm not sure if the full pack is still named Persona
dire storm
hi team. So I bought this mega pack of materials to play around with when I have free time during my semester. I was looking at the stats and just curious if a base pass shader with volumetric lightmap of 187 instructions is alot? Is that considered heavy? I def need to brush up on materials again.
copper fable
copper fable
static viper
mh
a bit disturbing
i see no evil
you sure the BT is working?
and doesnt need some refreshing
copper fable
hmm
it seems that the GetRandomReachablePointInRadius is coming back as false for the return value
copper fable
i recon it is something to do with the navmesh volume
static viper
you can always reactivate it
copper fable
how so?
copper fable
yeah i have no clue haha
its just returnign flase
but even when i want it to follow the player it doesnt move
static viper
that is good info
good that you checked
bc that means that the nav mesh has an issue
moving ai on a navmesh uses certain nodes
and inside of them is the real reason why this isnt working
sadly that is a c++ task
mh
its a funny error
wish i could lay hands on it
love those
kind robin
Hey, I need some help, where can I ask a question?
static viper
what area of issue?
kind robin
I'm unsure, exacty
static viper
ok shoot it
copper fable
ahhh it works!
kind robin
This weird box appears in the editor and in-game, and won't let me do anything
copper fable
the settings were on dynamic and rebuild on load i change it back to statick and unchecked the checkbox and deleted the volume and undo
kind robin
Awesome it worked, thanks so much!
copper fable
and it works now 😄
static viper
great job @copper fable
i thought it was a minor oissue
its common to break after update
very common
copper fable
@static viper thanks for the help 😄
stable coral
@kind robin nice garry's mod map
random holly
Could someone please show me to add more layers to a material? (Rock, Grass and Dirt) so i can start to paint my heightmap
Thanks in advance
grim ore
https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/Landscape/QuickStart/4 something like this? landscape material blending?
lavish marlin
my landscape is a material so is there anyway to keep it whilst adding more to it
so lets say if i wanted to paint over some mountains how will i keep that landscape
bare with as i make no sense lol
oak temple
is there a way to quickly copy a node? Just thinking there has to be a hotkey i can hold to copy a node into another spot, basically when in houdini I can hold alt on a node, click and drag then a new copy of that node is created in the spot where I click
icy gale
So is it just me, or you can't cut/copy files in the UE editor to another folder?...
abstract relic
CJ, Ctrl + C: copy, Ctrl + V: paste, Ctrl + W: duplicates
oak temple
ctrl + w is good to know but something with one click would be nice might not exist though
such a nice creature comfort
icy gale
@static viper How to move folders?..
abstract relic
There’s some basic node creation shortcut but nothing as smooth as Houdini
oak temple
Thanks @abstract relic might make a feature request for it
I took your cheat sheet too 😄
grim ore
The Alt-Drag works for objects tho in a viewport so you have that atleast
dry moon
Anyone have the issue with player collision getting stuck on other capsule collisions such as foliage?
next badger
foliage collision...i.e. rocks?
dry moon
and trees yeah
next badger
@dry moon try vis collision, console PXVis Collision
dry moon
Well its not that its getting caught inbetween stuff
its a slightly tilted capsule collision on the tree trunk, a long one
and it sitll gets stuck
next badger
@dry moon try adjust depenetration values
dry moon
Lower or higher values?
next badger
depenetration is velocity applied in attempt of unstuck your char (so, higher)
dry moon
Yeah I've set those values high and low
still getting caught
I jump into it and then stck
static viper
thats a clone of my games...
lame
so you are doing capsules for tree collision
why is that
dry moon
Because that is what speed tree does?
static viper
it just works
is all dynamic?
none of that is scripted
ok sorry
XD
that speedtree does it like that is weird.
dry moon
Radiant AI as well
static viper
you are likely touching multiple capsules at once
dry moon
nope
Just the character and one capsule on the tree
did multiple tests
it always gets caught on if its slightly tilty
next badger
@dry moon what are the values you have now?
static viper
are you still touchy de dingy when stucky in thingy?
static viper
and pls show tilt
i didnt thought i see an issue with collision angles again
that was a thing we did in 2006...
we should be over it
static viper
so it doesnt matter which angle?
going under and jumping is easy
but sliding down?
that doesnt makes sense
that would mean that you could get stuck... in air
test that
static viper
oh boi i am on to something bad...
this is not good
is it ok for you to remove capsule
and place box?
static viper
ITS WHAT
oh boi
oh boi
this bad
then it is prolly no capsule
ok
new test
we do manually
force this tree to use complex as simple
for colission
leaves must not have colission ofc.
dry moon
Definitely not optimal to do that
icy gale
@static viper Lets say I'm inside a folder, and inside that folder there's a folder I want to move 2 folders up, how do you do that exactly?
static viper
you use the content browser expanded view